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Title: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: ManaByte on September 01, 2010, 06:39:27 PM
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Lots of hidden stuff in that poster.
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Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 01, 2010, 06:48:20 PM
yeahhhh Frinnnnge
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: muckhole on September 01, 2010, 07:21:04 PM
Just tried scanning that QR code, and it took me to an alternate dimension!

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The "Bones" homepage. Nice one, Fox.  :yuck
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Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: ManaByte on September 01, 2010, 07:28:58 PM
Fringe Season 1 on sale again for $27 on Amazon.

BUY IT NOW

http://www.amazon.com/Fringe-Complete-Season-BD-Live-Blu-ray/dp/B001MS7IBS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1283383699&sr=8-5
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 01, 2010, 07:32:17 PM
Fringe is okay. a bit fillery in the middle of seasons, but the best thing in genre television now that Dollhouse (R.I.P. :gloomy) is off the air
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Solo on September 01, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
Fringe is predictably awesome in the second half of its seasons. Unfortunately, its predictably middling in the front end :(
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 01, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
Quote from: Genghis Cohen on September 01, 2010, 07:30:52 PM
Manabyte is a fan?  Definitely downloading (and uploading) this.

You want my S1 Blu-ray set? (not for free, but a good price!)
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Diunx on September 01, 2010, 08:54:42 PM
FRINGEEEEEEE!!!!
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 01, 2010, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: Solo on September 01, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
Fringe is predictably awesome in the second half of its seasons. Unfortunately, its predictably middling in the front end :(

First season started pretty good, I thought. But it quickly full into a predictable formula for about 12-14 episodes that really dragged big time.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on October 14, 2010, 09:51:05 AM
I've seen through the first three episodes now. I think I'm caught up. What are the spoiler rules for this thread?
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: GilloD on October 15, 2010, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: chronovore on October 14, 2010, 09:51:05 AM
I've seen through the first three episodes now. I think I'm caught up. What are the spoiler rules for this thread?

Can we agree that anything from "this week's" episode should be tagged? ANything older than 2 weeks is open season?
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: OptimoPeach on October 15, 2010, 10:52:21 PM
There have been four episodes this season
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on October 15, 2010, 11:28:29 PM
Works for me.

Ep.3:
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I enjoyed seeing the "standard Fringe procedural" as performed in the alternate world, with the different rules, resources, etc. applied. I'm continuously impressed with Anna Torv changing between varying degrees of each Olivia persona. I've really missed this show.
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Looking forward to Ep.4.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Diunx on October 16, 2010, 12:10:01 AM
Ep 4 was goood my favorite so far.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Episode 5 (11/5): YAY!
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I've enjoyed watching The Other Fringe Division's side of things, but it's about time Olivia, sharp pencil that she is, faced the facts. I think Walternate is already on to her deception though about the experiment's "failure." I'm curious what they'll do with Charlie. I liked our Charlie a lot, and even the other Charlie is a cool guy. I hope they use him well, keep him around.
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Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: GilloD on November 14, 2010, 04:47:24 AM
THe latest one (Ep 7) was super fucking good. It's maybe TOO MUCH to add ANOTHER level of mythology, but I think it'll end uptying the two universes together, so it's all good.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: brawndolicious on November 14, 2010, 01:57:02 PM
Yeah, and it feels like

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Olivia is going to come back soon and reveal Bolivia as an impostor.
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The whole universe war is probably going to be more overt if that happens, they do still have about 2/3 of the season left.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2010, 12:45:39 AM
I'm waiting for the inevitable turn of events where Walternate shows up in our timeline, and has to pretend to be Walter to avoid detection. It will be fun to watch someone accustomed to being treated with utter respect and no small amount of privilege trying to fit in Walter's shoes. I'm curious to see where he would finally be found out as a different person.

As for Olivia on World B, I'm hoping it will still be quite some time before she's brought back. The suspense of her trying to avoid detection by her mother and colleagues will make for some good episodes, though maybe they'll try and avoid what they're already doing with Olivia-B, whose agenda is more sinister than simply trying to get home. Then again, it would be an interesting parallel to have us rooting for her to be discovered in our timeline, and hoping for the opposite on World B.

As for the overall "We're at war" excuse Walternate gives for his actions, I've been at a loss for how he can rationalize it. He's devoted a huge portion of government resources to publicly battling the rifts and secretly toward waging war on another reality. The rifts are likely the aftershocks of Walter's initial tearing of the veil between realities, and any other tearing that occurred after, such as the German from "In Which We Meet Mr. Jones" and likely Walter's own rifts caused by sending the shapeshifter/android troops over. How can he rationalize continuing to invade and covertly kill World A people when he knows everyone in World A is ignorant of the rifts. Or does he?
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: GilloD on November 15, 2010, 12:56:46 AM
Quote from: chronovore on November 15, 2010, 12:45:39 AM
I'm waiting for the inevitable turn of events where Walternate shows up in our timeline, and has to pretend to be Walter to avoid detection. It will be fun to watch someone accustomed to being treated with utter respect and no small amount of privilege trying to fit in Walter's shoes. I'm curious to see where he would finally be found out as a different person.

I'm not sure we'll see this- Walternate is intense, but A- He likes to use other people to get his dirty work done (i.e., the whole alternate Fringe team, Fauxlivia, letting Earth-1 build his eeeeeeevil machine) so it'd be strange to see him come over. I'm also not sure we'd get that much out of it as a plot point- We have the Walter/Walternate dichotomy already.

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As for Olivia on World B, I'm hoping it will still be quite some time before she's brought back. The suspense of her trying to avoid detection by her mother and colleagues will make for some good episodes, though maybe they'll try and avoid what they're already doing with Olivia-B, whose agenda is more sinister than simply trying to get home. Then again, it would be an interesting parallel to have us rooting for her to be discovered in our timeline, and hoping for the opposite on World B.

This show is wrapping up plotlines pretty quickly (FU LOST), I'd guess that the 2nd 3rd of Season 3 is Fauxlivia escaping and the last 3rd being fallout from the encounters

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As for the overall "We're at war" excuse Walternate gives for his actions, I've been at a loss for how he can rationalize it. He's devoted a huge portion of government resources to publicly battling the rifts and secretly toward waging war on another reality. The rifts are likely the aftershocks of Walter's initial tearing of the veil between realities, and any other tearing that occurred after, such as the German from "In Which We Meet Mr. Jones" and likely Walter's own rifts caused by sending the shapeshifter/android troops over. How can he rationalize continuing to invade and covertly kill World A people when he knows everyone in World A is ignorant of the rifts. Or does he?
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Yeah, I'm kind of dissapointed by Walternate being played as a sort of EEEEEEEEEEEVILLLLLLL genius or something. It's more compelling if our Earth really is at fault and how our 'heroes' rationalize and cope. Having Earth 2 be filled with bullies is kind of a character bummer.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: brawndolicious on November 15, 2010, 04:41:20 AM
The thing about Walternate is that he probably didn't have a lobotomy like Walter did which apparently made fundamental changes in Walters personality.  You also have to remember that Walter spent plenty of time meditating on his sins (kidnapping Peter, several years in insane asylum) so he'd be more likely to change from his strictly ends-justify-the-means point of view.  Maybe Walternate is just the same type of person as Walter was when he was young?
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2010, 10:38:32 AM
It's also been stated that Bell (even aside from performing the brain-separation) had a clarifying influence on Walter. Walter has repeatedly referred to Bell as the person who would push the limits, who was the more likely to stray into morally ambiguous territory. Without that perspective, without some kind of foil, Walternate is likely to just not notice how far he's going.

In this week's episode, Olivia-B had a couple moments where she appears to be possibly questioning her mission. She put it to Peter in terms of "if this HAD to be one or the other..." and Peter still rejects it, even as an abstract condition. Olivia-B also showed her first reticence to killing innocents in Earth-A this week. Kind of strange after how willing she was just cap the poor deaf guy who was trying to turn himself in, just an ep. or two previous to this.

...That, or she was testing Peter's "loyalty" to his native dimension.

I'm continuously impressed with the nuances Anna Torv is bringing to the role. When she's not consciously trying to walk like Olivia-A, Olivia-B drops into her cocky strut. She smiles differently. She looks like a different person.
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I'm also happy to see that the writers are remembering to make Olivia-B stumble over her lack of photographic memory.
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Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 15, 2010, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: GilloD on November 15, 2010, 12:56:46 AM
This show is wrapping up plotlines pretty quickly (FU LOST), I'd guess that the 2nd 3rd of Season 3 is Fauxlivia escaping and the last 3rd being fallout from the encounters
Just the same, I still felt like they were dragging their feet for the first time all season with the last couple episodes. But I guess it's too much to expect the pacing to be seamless when there's that distinguished mentally-challenged 22 episode quota to fill
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: GilloD on November 15, 2010, 10:13:38 PM
Also, did Nina Sharp totally call out Fauxlivia or what?
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on November 16, 2010, 02:02:17 AM
Oh, yeah. She noticed, and then basically reeled it the hell in when she realized that calling out an enemy agent when she's alone in the room with her is a bad idea. She's probably already acted on it, allocating Massive Dynamic personnel to observing The Other Olivia, though I was filled with doubt when the next scene was her sharing a J in the quad with Walter.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Diunx on November 20, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
Fringe has been moved to Friday starting in January, I hope they can wrap everything up this season.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2010, 10:42:55 AM
Is Friday a bad night or something? Surely almost everyone who watches Fringe is doing so on a Tivo...
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Cheebs on November 20, 2010, 11:40:47 AM
Quote from: chronovore on November 20, 2010, 10:42:55 AM
Is Friday a bad night or something? Surely almost everyone who watches Fringe is doing so on a Tivo...
Very bad. And watching Fringe on DVR is not what Fox wants. They want live ratings for the commercials. Friday is the death slot. Very unlikely it will get a fourth season. Fox sends shows to Fridays to die.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 20, 2010, 12:29:48 PM
Well this show is fucked :(
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 20, 2010, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: chronovore on November 20, 2010, 10:42:55 AM
Is Friday a bad night or something? Surely almost everyone who watches Fringe is doing so on a Tivo...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_night_death_slot#Fox_and_Fridays
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 20, 2010, 01:08:38 PM
:lol Ok I didn't know it was that extensive. I was just thinking of Dollhouse and Terminator
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2010, 07:51:18 PM
Wow. The show is likely doomed.

God DAMN I hate Fox. It's the science fiction broadcasting equivalent of a cock tease.
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: Dickie Dee on November 21, 2010, 01:47:25 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on November 20, 2010, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: chronovore on November 20, 2010, 10:42:55 AM
Is Friday a bad night or something? Surely almost everyone who watches Fringe is doing so on a Tivo...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_night_death_slot#Fox_and_Fridays

Wonderfalls :maf
Title: Re: FRINGE Season 3!
Post by: chronovore on May 16, 2011, 08:36:38 AM
Schlepped over from the general TV thread:
Quote from: Diunx on May 07, 2011, 10:56:42 AM
Quote from: BlueTsunami on May 06, 2011, 10:00:44 PM
Fringe. Best Cliffhanger.EVER.

Yep, the finale was fucking amazing, although the reveal about the first people was a little anticlimactic imo.

Yeah, it was stupidly convenient.

Now I'm convinced that there was about as much forethought into the Fringe world as there was for X-Files. Or LOST. Hopefully they can reign this in a little. I'm unhappy that so much of the dynamic tension between Broyles, Nina, and Olivia has just been dismissed out of hand. Hell, even William Bell is cuddly now that he's a cartoon who supports Walter instead of performing elective brain surgery on him.

There are still a lot of interesting unanswered questions; I just hope they're not all as pat as this The First People and Sam Weiss were revealed to be. Next week: The Observers are actually just a weird splinter branch of The Lions Club.