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Title: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 04, 2010, 04:03:00 PM

it's out and wow! this is better than KH2 so far!
so far i've finished only two world and they were somewhat short but ehy they were new world! and they were ridden of ice-cream related cutscene and full of disney goodness! also from what i understand each character visit a different part of each world which mean i only saw 1/3 of the world

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they were the sleeping beauty castle and cinderella castle (on note "bibidi-bobidi-bu" loops infinitely on this world in what looks like an attempt to drive you crazy,at least they don't force you to hear little mermaid songs!) the next world looks like to be snow-white,now i'm happy they are doing all the world they didn't the first time but did they all have to be disney princess? do i look like a little girl square?

also the boss were pretty amazing,on the sleeping beauty level i fought a giant animated spindle and on cinderella level a giant soldier that controlled musical instrument with a baton!

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apparently they added a new difficulty mode for the american version called "critical mode" it definitely improve combat by giving me a reason to level up,block and dodge and also by killing me a lot

mmm... what else,skills are now found around or bought like items and you can combine them around to get new skills (for example a special attack + blizzard = special ice attack) there is a special bar that fills as you hit the enemy and empties as you stop attacking,if you fill the bar with normal attack you simply get to pull off a more powerfull attack but if you fill in with specific attack,you change mode and you are powered up for a short time depending on your mode (so far i have two mode,one that triggers by using normal special attacks which give me a hard hitting dash and one that triggers by using ice attack called diamond dust :teehee that turns all my attack to ice) there are no MP instead each skill has a cooldown time (which is very annoying because cure has a very long cooldown!) if you press L+R you get a big reticle on the screen and you can use an attack which hit every you target with the reticle

if you press right on the D-Pad you can synchronize with a character you encountered and you get a new skill set depending with who you synchronize,for example if you synchronize with maleficent you get a sleep based skillset :lol

there is also a minigame which can give you some extra skills if you play it right,upholding the old awesome square tradition of having pointless minigame for awesome reward,it's basicaly itadaki street (which is monopoly with a few added rule here and there) with disney character

but anyway if you tought every kingdom hearts game on a portable was terrible give this one a chance and if you tought every kingdom hearts game was terrible,well fuck you! >:(

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 04, 2010, 07:59:30 PM

GoTY 2010

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Third on September 04, 2010, 08:18:28 PM

Fuuuck I want to play this but my PSP has been bricked  :'(

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Purple Filth on September 05, 2010, 01:32:36 AM

Been busy with Persona 3 portable (I dig it) but i can't wait for this.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 05, 2010, 02:48:46 AM

Magus, you officially suck.  Every kingdom hearts game IS terrible. They're not even good fanwank games anymore because of the pretentiousness quotient.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 05, 2010, 02:50:06 AM

shut up emcee.  beating shit up has always and will always be awesome

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 05, 2010, 02:59:05 AM

There are better games to beat up shit in.  Stop pretending this trash is genuinely entertaining. Let's all admit it sounded like a good idea until we played kh1 and it never got any better after that pile.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2010, 04:11:44 AM

holy shit go emcee!  this series is shit action-adventure for eight-year-olds, plz stop playing it ppl. 

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 05, 2010, 05:20:22 AM

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and if you tought every kingdom hearts game was terrible,well fuck you!  >:(

:smug

anyway i finished the third world

spoiler (click to show/hide)

:bow magic mirror boss,next world isn't a princess related one!

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 05, 2010, 10:09:26 AM

Quote from: Positive Touch on September 05, 2010, 04:11:44 AM

holy shit go emcee!  this series is shit action-adventure for eight-year-olds, plz stop playing it ppl. 

yeah, I remember making the mistake of going to gamestop on KH2's launch day. Smelled terrible and there were slicked back ponytails, trench coats, and mounds of acne everywhere-- all dudes too.  It was a freaking NAMBLA convention...

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2010, 01:32:33 PM

I'll put it on my Christmas list. I LOVE Kingdom Hearts, but portable games are a total chore for me.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 05, 2010, 03:22:48 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2010, 01:32:33 PM

I'll put it on my Christmas list. I LOVE Kingdom Hearts, but portable games are a total chore for me.

If you have PSP 2000 model or above, you can connect to the your TV using proprietary component cables.  The caveat here is that you need to use the PSP as the controller, which if you TV is some feet away from your couch, not very workable. 

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2010, 03:35:26 PM

blegh those cables are awful!  they only display in a small window, the image is stretched horizontally, and the cord isn't very long so you have to sit pretty close to the t.v.  total waste of money

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2010, 01:32:33 PM

I'll put it on my Christmas list. I LOVE Kingdom Hearts, but portable games are a total chore for me.

Did you ever play Peace Walker?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 05, 2010, 05:47:35 PM

this game let you hit that fucker peter pan!
if that doesn't make the best disney game ever i don't know what!

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 05, 2010, 06:47:04 PM

You get to beat the shit out of Peter Pan? Starting this game tonight.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2010, 07:00:25 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on September 05, 2010, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2010, 01:32:33 PM

I'll put it on my Christmas list. I LOVE Kingdom Hearts, but portable games are a total chore for me.

Did you ever play Peace Walker?

For about an hour. It was great, but like I said, portable games get largely ignored by me.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 05, 2010, 07:41:22 PM

Quote from: iconoclast on September 05, 2010, 06:47:04 PM

You get to beat the shit out of Peter Pan? Starting this game tonight.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKdUJ-SQVeU[/youtube]

anyway according to this faq i'm reading i guess i'm almost done with terra story mode which means each story mode is pretty short topping at 15 hours best (probably even less if you don't spend time fucking around with the monopoly minigame and you don't play in critical mode) and with only 8 world (1 is just hercules colisseum,1 is just a minigame hub and the last one is peter pan altough it's a different level than the hook ship of KH1) unless the other story mode are different?
anyway one of the character in this game is named eraqus and looks a bit like sakaguchi
i just realized that eraqus is an anagram of square,i don't know if i should feel proud or ashamed :-\

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: demi on September 05, 2010, 07:43:35 PM

why the fuck r u reading a FAQ? jesus christ.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 05, 2010, 07:44:41 PM

because i was curious how much i was missing? ???

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 05, 2010, 08:11:54 PM

You should be listening to The Last Ranker and Xenoblade instead, KH games have like the worst Shimomura soundtracks ever. :gloomy

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2010, 08:49:28 PM

magus, each storymode is about 10-15 hours, but each has almost completely different scenes and after you beat all three

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the true ending chapter is unlocked

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So the game is actually the longest KH game at around 25-30 hours.

For instance each world seems short when you visit it because you're only seeing 1/3rd of the story and sometimes only visiting 1/3rd the map.   As you play the other characters and fill out the rest it makes more sense and feels more complete.  The entire story and size of each world is about as long as an entire story of a world in KH2.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2010, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on September 05, 2010, 08:11:54 PM

You should be listening to The Last Ranker and Xenoblade instead, KH games have like the worst Shimomura soundtracks ever. :gloomy

Ehhhh, I can't agree with that at all.  Some of it really is her at her finest.  Sure some of it is forgettable field music, but it's way better than her tiny bit of work on Xenoblade.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yna9FIlV03Y[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97UUo7zBPp4[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDizdSZB2Gw[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QscpOLaF5sM[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMADH8FUYco[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJAcZMWqPvc[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZcJJssnKs[/youtube]

I feel like Shimomura was influenced a lot by classic Uematsu and continues his melodic 8bit/16bit style in a modern era with her own spin.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 06, 2010, 12:27:43 AM

Kindgom Hearts has awesome music, wtf  ???

dearly beloved, omg

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Timeless on September 06, 2010, 05:35:33 AM

hey guys, I'm gonna play BBS but do i need to play the DS game first "358/2 Days"?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 06, 2010, 05:49:08 AM

nope

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 06, 2010, 10:48:49 PM

I've been playing this for the last couple hours. Game is pretty fun so far, even though it's babby easy (playing on Proud Mode I think - whatever the third difficulty is). The boss of the Snow White stage was fuck-awesome. More of that plz

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 06, 2010, 11:12:12 PM

which character are you playing as?

I did Ventus first he's medium difficulty
Terra second he's easy difficulty
Aqua last she's hard difficulty

Now when you actually get leveled and synth awesome attacks they all become pretty easy around the middle.  But the starting worlds go by the above difficulty.  But yeah, KH games are not for NINJA GAIDEN gamers seeking challenge.  They are fun spammy action rpgs where you hit lots of stuff while looking flashy and they explode.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 07, 2010, 12:17:22 AM

I'm playing Terra. I'd say that about sums up my thoughts so far - fun and flashy combat.

The boss of the Merlin stage was actually a pretty decent challenge. Died on him a few times, although he did kill me in one hit. Fun fight anyway. I just hope I get to beat up Peter Pan soon.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 07, 2010, 04:22:24 AM

Oh my fucking god. The Olympic Colosseum stage is ABYSMAL

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 07, 2010, 04:50:03 AM

you should have picked critical,bosses kill you in like 2 hits,there was a boss where i couldn't simply afford to get hit because as soon as i got hit,he would combo me to death

anyway i'm doing some arena challenge and learning some passive skills (i swear a lot of these are more usefull than the active skills) before tackling the final boss

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 07, 2010, 05:01:40 AM

Yeah the bosses hit pretty hard. The one on Merlin's stage kicked my ass a few times, but my first few deaths were because of the camera. I was trying to run along the backside of his laser beam attack, but the camera would always do a 180 and flip me around causing me to run straight into it. Insta-death. Took me a few tries to realize I could dash through that. Then I died a few times on his final form where his head does this beyblade attack, which is another 1-hit kill.

Anyway, finally beat this distinguished mentally-challenged colosseum. What a massive pain in the ass that was. If you don't get lucky with the counter guard against the stomping guys, you are fucked and have to do it all over again. So bad. >:(

Actually, on critical mode don't you get an item that stops you from earning experience? I wonder if you can beat the game at level 1. I think the colosseum would be impossible though, since you deal half damage and the time limits aren't very lenient. Unless it's different on critical. I was going to say that mode sounds like a grind, but if it's doable at a low level that would be pretty awesome.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 07, 2010, 06:02:27 AM

Alright, so is

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Zach's

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attack possible to dodge consistently or is it just random luck? If he hits you with that teleport bullshit, instant death. Worst boss fight ever.

yeah fuck that fight. i just beat him by spamming my lock-shot when he started his teleport move.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 07, 2010, 07:51:21 AM

i dashed like crazy as soon as he teleported and i was able to dodge him,he never used that attack again

and yea shotlock command are ultra broken,i have one that deals like 1 lifebar full of damage

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 07, 2010, 09:32:37 AM

the mirage arena is like fucking impossible,it took me 15 minutes to complete event number 8 out of 12! i think i made more levels trying to complete this thing than by playing the rest of the game

i wonder if they made it this hard since you are supposed to play in multi... monster huntite strikes again?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 07, 2010, 02:02:47 PM

Is this out today or tomorrow? I'll totally go to the store and impulse buy it right now, even though it takes me like a year to beat portable games.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 07, 2010, 02:34:16 PM

is it just me or is terra and aquas voice actors terrible. aquas sounds like the mexican maid of the Square Offices and terra is just reading from a script. it's terribad.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 07, 2010, 03:36:49 PM

Yeah, some of the reviews are saying the non-disney voices are pretty bad.  Which is weird since KH has always been known as the high point of rpg English dubs (at least that's what I hear, I've never played a KH in English).

It's too bad, because the story in BBS is pretty serious by the end and I doubt it'll have the same emotional impact if the characters sound distinguished mentally-challenged.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2010, 03:56:00 PM

Eh, KH game sin English are still pretty unbearable.  It's mostly the script, though.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 07, 2010, 04:02:45 PM

Also if you haven't noticed yet, Ventus is the main character of the story and his storyline is the main one.  Terra/Aqua are just support stories to fill out the events around Ventus.

If anyone was only going to play the game once, I'd recommend playing as Ventus first.

Quote from: BrandNew on September 07, 2010, 03:56:00 PM

Eh, KH game sin English are still pretty unbearable.  It's mostly the script, though.

But they had real actors and stuff for KH 1/2!

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 07, 2010, 04:17:16 PM

by the time i was HALF done with the mirage arena,terra was already level 33,i murdered the final boss in like 3 shotlock attack and started with ven

spoiler (click to show/hide)

i've already done snow-white and cinderella,cinderella played as ven is pretty amusing! he gets shrinked to mouse size and then you go around finding stuff to complete cinderella dress

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 07, 2010, 07:29:38 PM

how does that board game work anyways? I cant figure it out. also the mickey and roxas battle against the mask kid kicked my ass like 10 times i am bad at this game help me

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: iconoclast on September 07, 2010, 08:06:21 PM

I like Aqua's VA and Xehanort sounds pretty good too. Terra and Ventus have pretty bad VA. Especially Ventus, but I already hate children in every RPG ever made so I guess that doesn't help. The Disney voices are great.

Quote from: magus on September 07, 2010, 07:51:21 AM

i dashed like crazy as soon as he teleported and i was able to dodge him,he never used that attack again

and yea shotlock command are ultra broken,i have one that deals like 1 lifebar full of damage

I was able to dash away from that move like 15% of the time, but most of the time he'd always hit me with part of it, which usually killed me. He would always do it after I hit him with two or three combos.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 08, 2010, 07:26:41 AM

there is a passive skill that make you survive a combo if you have more than 1 HP,i guess that would have helped too

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 08, 2010, 09:15:24 PM

I'm surprised Demi is not all over this.  He's a big KH fan.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: demi on September 08, 2010, 09:20:02 PM

Don't have a PSP. (http://www.urofixx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/shrug.gif)

Want to donate? My birthday is only a few weeks away.  8)

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: FatalT on September 08, 2010, 09:30:12 PM

Quote from: demi on September 08, 2010, 09:20:02 PM

Don't have a PSP. (http://www.urofixx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/shrug.gif)

Want to donate? My birthday is only a few weeks away.  8)

My birthday is this Sunday. I'll take a second PSP though. Send it to me instead!

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 08, 2010, 10:13:54 PM

If you make me a icon ill buy youa psp

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 08, 2010, 10:46:24 PM

Quote from: demi on September 08, 2010, 09:20:02 PM

Don't have a PSP. (http://www.urofixx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/shrug.gif)

Want to donate? My birthday is only a few weeks away.  8)

I figured you'd be rocking an old-school psp-1000 hacked

No game ever interested you in getting a psp over all these years?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: demi on September 08, 2010, 10:50:51 PM

I've played PSP games... I just don't own one

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 10, 2010, 06:22:53 AM

i've reached neverland with ventus again and i'm a little annoyed,ventus barely deal any damage at all,in fact even for killing those weak wizard enemies i still need like 10 full hit combo,i guess i should grind some more tough at this point i'm starting to wonder if it's a good idea to play in critical mode for aqua too

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2010, 10:57:08 AM

Ventus has some great exclusive final attacks.  Time Slip is rad, Holy (physical) is omgggg, plus with any character Megaflare destroys stuff up. 

But then you're doing 50% damage with enemies at 200% health so basically 1/4th the damage as when I played :X

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 10, 2010, 11:28:28 AM

i did like 2 mirage arena event and i ended up racking 4 level for doing them,really shows the huge number of enemies they throw at you at the mirage arena :lol,those 4 level made tons of difference,plus i started abusing the switchblade style which makes ventus really quick (too bad his other 2 advanced style kinda sucks)

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 12, 2010, 05:56:53 PM

i finished the game with ven at level 27,ven final boss was even easier than terra final boss tough i did die a few times trying to deal the final blow...

anyway,while i really love the game,i don't like most of the additions they have done,D-Link are mostly useless,most of the time the custom deck you get is worse than the deck you would build with your own command,using a D-Link give you a few bonus and a different finisher but again the bonus were never worth the use and the finisher is never good enough to bother,to add insult to the injury,you can't even D-Link in some cases making it even more worthless AND you have to improve the D-Link by hoping a heartless drops a D-Link powerup

shotlock commands seems a little overpowered,they do truckload of damage and you are invincible while executing one so you don't have to worry about enemy attacks,in fact most of the hard boss go crazy with their attack,stop for 2 seconds and then start going berserk again,GEE IT'S LIKE THE 2 SECONDS I NEED TO CHARGE MY SHOTLOCK ATTACK!

the way you gain passive abilities is also very annoying,you fuse 2 commands and add an item,the combination of commands you fused and the item you used give you a passive ability but you never know what you get if you don't use a guide and some of the passive abilities need really specific combination to get,that's just incredibly annoying

lastly i wish the character would be able to share items,skills and stuff like that,it's really annoying having to repeat the mirage arena event again,or having to play the command board everytime i want to get a new shotlock for a new character

anyway i'm off to play with aqua,apparently i missed an item with ven required to unlock the super-duper secret ending so i will have to defeat the final boss again... so annoying >:(

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 06:07:29 PM

im enjoying the game so far im up to

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peter pan

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on my first playthrough. i did it wrong apparently and started with roxas which sucks. oh well. game is hard as shit for me I dun know how to play it keep dieing.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 06:07:40 PM

how much left do i have btw in roxas story

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 12, 2010, 06:56:59 PM

peter pan is the last disney world for everyone so not much

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 12, 2010, 07:28:20 PM

Quote from: magus on September 12, 2010, 05:56:53 PM

i finished the game with ven at level 27,ven final boss was even easier than terra final boss tough i did die a few times trying to deal the final blow...

anyway,while i really love the game,i don't like most of the additions they have done,D-Link are mostly useless,most of the time the custom deck you get is worse than the deck you would build with your own command,using a D-Link give you a few bonus and a different finisher but again the bonus were never worth the use and the finisher is never good enough to bother,to add insult to the injury,you can't even D-Link in some cases making it even more worthless AND you have to improve the D-Link by hoping a heartless drops a D-Link powerup

shotlock commands seems a little overpowered,they do truckload of damage and you are invincible while executing one so you don't have to worry about enemy attacks,in fact most of the hard boss go crazy with their attack,stop for 2 seconds and then start going berserk again,GEE IT'S LIKE THE 2 SECONDS I NEED TO CHARGE MY SHOTLOCK ATTACK!

the way you gain passive abilities is also very annoying,you fuse 2 commands and add an item,the combination of commands you fused and the item you used give you a passive ability but you never know what you get if you don't use a guide and some of the passive abilities need really specific combination to get,that's just incredibly annoying

lastly i wish the character would be able to share items,skills and stuff like that,it's really annoying having to repeat the mirage arena event again,or having to play the command board everytime i want to get a new shotlock for a new character

anyway i'm off to play with aqua,apparently i missed an item with ven required to unlock the super-duper secret ending so i will have to defeat the final boss again... so annoying >:(

Key things

1) mirage arena is totally optional.  I didn't even bother going there more than once or twice to check it out.  You don't need the stuff from it.

2) I never used shot locks much, didn't realize you were invincible during them.  Guess that's a good way to dodge some attacks.  I just dodged them normally.

3) d-links are awesome because of the benefits you get.  Like 2xp skill growth, 2x exp, etc...  They're also great for the first part of the game with each character when your character sucks.  D-link items are pretty easy to get. 

4) use a guide to get all the passive abilities you want.  I just took what I got at random until the endgame and then I used a guide and got what I wanted to take into the final boss fights.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 12, 2010, 08:47:56 PM

i understand this stuff is optional but it's stupid that i have to do it 3 times because the developer couldn't be bothered to make this stuff shared between the characters

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 02:23:42 PM

what the FUCK :punch

is WRONG :punch

with this STORY :punch

it is a perfect application of "Nomura's Razor": all other things being equal, the most convoluted explanation is usually correct.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 14, 2010, 02:40:28 PM

i don't see anything wrong with the story? ???

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 02:44:30 PM

it's a retcon/procon/selfcon nightmare

I think the conclusion of Kingdom Hearts III is that every character was Ansem all along - as well as Xehanort (also Sora)

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 14, 2010, 03:25:45 PM

that's kinda stupid but not really that much stupid but not convoluted

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 03:27:17 PM

Quote from: magus on September 14, 2010, 03:25:45 PM

that's kinda stupid but not really that much stupid but not convoluted

similarly, Xemnas is kinda Xehanort but not really that much Ansem but not Ansem the Wise

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 14, 2010, 03:32:43 PM

yes xehanort,xemnas and ansem are all the same character,xehanort is the original baddie and then he spawned those other two tough the power of plot

that seems pretty straightforward to me

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 03:36:39 PM

Quote from: magus on September 14, 2010, 03:32:43 PM

yes xehanort,xemnas and ansem are all the same character,xehanort is the original baddie and then he spawned those other two tough the power of plot

that seems pretty straightforward to me

well, why don't you finish BBS then get back to me :teehee

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2010, 05:34:58 PM

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 02:23:42 PM

what the FUCK :punch

is WRONG :punch

with this STORY :punch

it is a perfect application of "Nomura's Razor": all other things being equal, the most convoluted explanation is usually correct.

hahahaha, what happened?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 08:14:17 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on September 14, 2010, 05:34:58 PM

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on September 14, 2010, 02:23:42 PM

what the FUCK :punch

is WRONG :punch

with this STORY :punch

it is a perfect application of "Nomura's Razor": all other things being equal, the most convoluted explanation is usually correct.

hahahaha, what happened?

THIS!

(Full KH Series Spoilers)

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(http://i49.tinypic.com/2gwt26q.png)

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2010, 08:18:09 PM

I made this just for you!  You have to watch all this in order before you can bitch about the story :D 

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Terra
[youtube=560,345]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZscWPRxC0n4&feature=related[/youtube]

Ven
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYk-ZLdv4o[/youtube]

Aqua
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojg1KlBHu74&feature=related[/youtube]

BBS full ending pt.1
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ncCrRuR0S4&feature=related[/youtube]

BBS full ending pt.2
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9e7vXh-x5c&feature=related[/youtube]

BBS full ending pt.3
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngTy9Zt8GMs[/youtube]

Secret ending pt.1
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox09fYblf7g&feature=related[/youtube]

Secret ending pt.2
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn0I2q9atqY&feature=related[/youtube]

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Nomura did a really good job with the plot imo.  He took the busted ass nonsense mess of KH plot and explained almost EVERYTHING as well as set up perfectly for KH3.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 14, 2010, 08:20:59 PM

I still have no idea waht a heartless or a nobody is or anything jesus fuck why couldnt this game just be simple

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2010, 09:42:26 PM

KH BBS Final Mix for Japan.  Nothing new announced so far.  Just the additions for the US version & English voices.  Doubt they're going to add a whole bunch of new stuff like KH1 or KH2 with Re:Coded almost out and 3DS announced.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 14, 2010, 09:53:21 PM

Re: Coded is for the plain DS or the 3ds?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2010, 09:58:02 PM

Plain DS, comes out Oct. 7th in Japan.  Features a deep dive style secret FMV movie that hints towards KH3DS.  Will also have cutscenes tying BBS into 3DS.

Battle system is going to be like BBS upgraded.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 14, 2010, 10:10:36 PM

Ugh.  That's gonna suck with crappy DS 3D.  BBS is so pretty.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 14, 2010, 10:11:56 PM

I just want to see the deed dive video for KH3DS

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2010, 10:27:28 PM

Quote from: Rman on September 14, 2010, 10:10:36 PM

Ugh.  That's gonna suck with crappy DS 3D.  BBS is so pretty.

Well at least it's the last crappy looking KH.  3DS should look on par with BBS.

Plus it doesn't look thaaaat bad. It's going to use PS2 in-game fmv for all the major cutscenes and it uses stupid 2d cutouts for dialogue.  In game combat is shitty 352/8 days tiny rooms with ugly graphics yeah.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ssOgHjc9o[/youtube]

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 14, 2010, 11:35:16 PM

I didn't play 385 or w/e but what made it so bad

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 15, 2010, 02:21:43 AM

the combat was pretty good, but it was the endless repetition and sterile environments that killed it.  Re:coded seems to make both better, and the combat is apparently different as well.  for the better I guess?  I don't know, I'm not following it too closely

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 15, 2010, 05:36:28 AM

isn't re:coded just a port of a cellphone spinoff game... does anyone seriously think a cellphone spinoff will be better than this? i bet they are going to recycle the shit out of art assets like they did for 352/8 days

anyway i'm almost done,just reached never land with aqua,i'm somewhat pissed by the fact that while they did good job giving a different boss fight to everyone,they used and abused one particular boss fight

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 15, 2010, 05:45:38 AM

Quote from: magus on September 15, 2010, 05:36:28 AM

isn't re:coded just a port of a cellphone spinoff game... does anyone seriously think a cellphone spinoff will be better than this? i bet they are going to recycle the shit out of art assets like they did for 352/8 days

of course not.

But it might be a game that is fun to play and adds more to the overall KH storyline.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 15, 2010, 12:31:43 PM

i finished with aqua and unlocked the final episode but i'm really tempted to just youtube the ending and be done with the game,i barely leveled aqua since i was already sick to do all the optional stuff that give you the cool reward AGAIN so she's not up to par and coincidentaly she's the one who fights the final final boss.... if i wants to bring her up to the par,i have to get back to aqua save,level up her in that save,then defeat aqua final boss again and graaaaaaaaaa that's so stupid and annoying! it takes me like 2 minutes to youtube the ending,instead of doing all this save hopping

i think it was also a terrible mistake to play the whole game on critical,doing half the damage doesn't make the game harder,it just force's you to level up because you hit like a little girl

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 15, 2010, 12:59:31 PM

Yeah, I played on normal.  It was fun.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 15, 2010, 01:13:07 PM

the problem is that terra does a lot of damage so playing on critical with terra seems fair,then you switch to ventus and he literaly does 4 pixel of damage for combo in later worlds,5 level later and you are finaly on par!

but really i'm more annoyed by the whole 3 character ordeal,they don't really feel much different in the end and it's a pain in the ass to relearn "once more" 3 times,or do the iron prisoner challenge 3 times,or having to grind each character to level 30,3 times

i think they did a good job since the characters visit different part of the worlds and fight different bosses,but it's not a perfect job since you still end up traversing some segments twice and one of the boss is fought like 6 times
 

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 18, 2010, 09:14:05 PM

what is this mario party board game shit?

are you required to ever do this?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2010, 09:51:35 PM

The board game is awesome and no it's all optional.
It's Square's Itadaki Street KH/Disney style. 

Turn movement speed to FAST and have fun leveling all your stuff quickly and winning awesome new magic/shotlocks/abilities

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 18, 2010, 10:00:37 PM

this game is so confusing

I can't beat this first boss.  I lock on, he jumps into the air, I have no idea what is going on at this point, he hurts me, there is a qte thing where I mash X, then I die.  I go again, try and block his attack (I think it was an attack, I couldn't see shit) and that does nothing.  I don't even know what is going on.  And there are so many gauges on the screen.  there is health, d-link, focus, commands, then the triangle attacks that each have their own meter.   oh, and after I die, I have to replay a little sequence again and watch a cutscene.  That's another thing I already dislike: long ass cutscenes.  This is a portable game and I want to get into the action, which I don't think I like so far, but whatever.

I guess I beat him.  My character activated super saiyajin mode and I killed it? I have no clue

I need to read the manual before I play more.  I don't even understand the goal of that board game.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 18, 2010, 11:00:18 PM

You mean Fever Pitch?  It's a command style. You build it up by using your Commands and regular attacks.  It's the red gauge on the left.  If you use Commands primarily to build up the gauge you will be use your command style, which was Fever Pitch in your case, instead of using a basic finisher.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2010, 11:11:05 PM

Quote from: Linkzg on September 18, 2010, 10:00:37 PM

this game is so confusing

I can't beat this first boss.  I lock on, he jumps into the air, I have no idea what is going on at this point, he hurts me, there is a qte thing where I mash X, then I die.  I go again, try and block his attack (I think it was an attack, I couldn't see shit) and that does nothing.  I don't even know what is going on.  And there are so many gauges on the screen.  there is health, d-link, focus, commands, then the triangle attacks that each have their own meter.   oh, and after I die, I have to replay a little sequence again and watch a cutscene.  That's another thing I already dislike: long ass cutscenes.  This is a portable game and I want to get into the action, which I don't think I like so far, but whatever.

I guess I beat him.  My character activated super saiyajin mode and I killed it? I have no clue

I need to read the manual before I play more.  I don't even understand the goal of that board game.

The game is pretty complicated but that's what makes it good.  It's the deepest combat in the series (and a good board game too!).  Definitely try to learn what all the systems do, it'll make the game way more fun.

Also make sure you start MELDING asap, it's where you get all your attacks.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 18, 2010, 11:14:53 PM

I'm up to the third world in Ventus's campaign and I haven't started melding anything.  I've got a huge pack rat mentality with JRPGs, mastering each spell and attack command. 

But I will take your advice, Bepbo.  Game is not that bad so far in terms of difficultly, so I've had no motivation. 

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 18, 2010, 11:17:03 PM

doesn't melding gets rid of your existing attacks?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2010, 11:37:45 PM

Yeah, so you need to at least wait until you have a bunch.  3rd world probably sounds like a good time to start.  I did most of my melding after finishing the midpoint of the story in the midpoint area.  You'll know when you get there because it's the same for all 3.

Also d-links are your friends early on.  They let you use attacks you don't have yet and it's actually pretty easy to grind out the 2 items to max the d-links to the best version quickly.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2010, 12:40:03 AM

is there an arena to grind out or something? I read the manual and there is that multiplayer place.

I'm still confused.  Even the manual doesn't give you a straight answer.  It's like "you can do the finish command if you fill up that bar, or by filling certain requirements you can enter a power up'd state"  wait, what are the requirements? "you can upgrade finishers by doing something" yeah, thanks for the tip, prick.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2010, 12:51:24 AM

this board game is a cheating piece of shit.  four one rolls in a row. come on.

edit: five.  five one rolls in a row.  fuck this.

and why are they making me watch these asshole other characters play?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 19, 2010, 04:29:38 AM

Quote from: Linkzg on September 19, 2010, 12:40:03 AM

is there an arena to grind out or something? I read the manual and there is that multiplayer place.

I'm still confused.  Even the manual doesn't give you a straight answer.  It's like "you can do the finish command if you fill up that bar, or by filling certain requirements you can enter a power up'd state"  wait, what are the requirements? "you can upgrade finishers by doing something" yeah, thanks for the tip, prick.

go to stats and then style and i'll tell you what are the requirement
and yes there is an arena where you can grind your heart out,it's top left from the map and you can also play it in multiplayer

as for how to upgrade your finisher the game doesn't tell you the requirements which really sucks,but they are requirement which get easily fulfilled like "kills X enemy" "walk X steps" "get X XP"

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2010, 03:30:11 PM

quick question: I'm playing as Terra now.  When I switch to other characters, do stats/abilities carry through or do they really expect you to start at the beginning and grind everything again for each character?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 19, 2010, 03:48:36 PM

yes,they expect you to grind each time you switch character and it's ultra-distinguished mentally-challenged and also the reason i didn't bother finishing the game in the first place

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2010, 03:55:24 PM

ugh

yeah, forget that.  I'm on the 4th world and this game is pretty boring.  Unless it picks up, I don't think I could bother playing with the two others.  I mean, the game still doesn't feel right because I don't have all the abilities and they want me to start without them again? do the Japanese actually enjoy this shit? at least Falcom knows how to make a fun game.

at least are each character's games short? how far am I into Terra's? I

spoiler (click to show/hide)

just was cruising on my jet moto and Xenosomething hit me up on my cell telling me to go to some planet.

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 19, 2010, 04:00:00 PM

each character is like 10-15 hours
the progress for every character is like

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first 3 disney world

Snow-white
Cinderella
Sleeping beauty

Radiant Town

3 Other Disney World

Disney Town (just a hub for short & lame minigame)
Lilo & Stitch
Hercules

after that you do peter pan
after peter pan you get to the final boss

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2010, 04:02:50 PM

whoa what? you have to repeat the same worlds with each character?

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: magus on September 19, 2010, 04:15:03 PM

ahahahah
yes but they fight different boss and access different part of the level so it's all cool
some cool example

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ventus gets shrinked to mice size and wanders around cinderella house so he meets jaq instead of going to the castle and fight lucifer the cat
aqua gets to explore maleficent castle and tag team maleficent dragon form together with prince philips

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in case you are curious for the complete boss list

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Cinderella

Terra: a giant unversed shaped like a conductor who attacks with musical instrument
Ven: Lucifer the cat
Aqua: a giant unversed shaped like cinderella pumpkin chariot

Snow-White

Terra: Evil Mirror Spirit
Ven: a giant unversed shaped like a tree
Aqua: Evil Mirror Spirit (the only repeat in a disney world)

Sleeping Beauty

Terra: a giant unversed shaped like a spindle
Ven: Maleficent as a witch
Aqua: Maleficent as a dragon

Radiant Garden

Everybody fights a giant armor unversed,then

Terra: jerk called braig who later appears in KH2
Ven: Nobody
Aqua: Vanitas

Lilo & Stitch

Terra: Experiment 221
Ven: giant medusa shaped unversed
Aqua: captain gantu

Hercules

Terra: Zack from FF7
Ven: a swarm of normal unversed
Aqua: Zack,then Hades + Ice Titan

Peter Pan

Terra: Peter Pan
Ven: Captain Hook
Aqua: Vanitas

Final Boss

Terra: Xehanort
Ven: Vanitas
Aqua: Braig then Vanitas

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Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2010, 04:25:54 PM

wow

I'll keep playing but forget trying to level up all abilities, mending, finding all items, stickers, and whatever other chores they have for you.  This game feels like work.  Long boring cutscene, some decent action, more long boring cutscene, level up this gauge and that gauge and this bar and that bar and these two circles and those two circles and these abilities and those abilities and these magics and those magics and do it again two more times.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Bebpo on September 19, 2010, 06:38:01 PM

If you just play normal and spend 1 hour grinding after Radiant Garden with each character you'll be overpowered and have all the best attacks in the game for each.

This is "not" a grindy game.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts BBS
Post by: Rman on September 27, 2010, 12:06:37 AM

I'm having fun with this game, but much like the other Kingdom Hearts games, the combat portion really gets boring and tedious.