I remember when we were ridiculing the psp for launching at 200 bucks. Or was it 250? That was so long ago. I've wasted my life!
ffs 122 pages already. Get a life morans
DS was $149 at launch
PSP was $250
Ironically, the DS's MSRP has increased since launch thanks to the DSi and DSiXL. :lol I think $199 is a safe bet for the 3DS. Any higher is potentially suicidal.
And let's not forget, launch lineups ALWAYS suck. I expect the same for the 3ds.Dreamcast proved you wrong.
Dreamcast had soul calibur and... annnndd... annnnnnnddd?Power Stone, Hydro Thunder, NFL2K, Ready 2 Rumble. And we all thought Sonic was decent at that time.
sonic adventure lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_console_launch_games
I'd have to pick PS2... Summoner + Eternal Ring :rock
You've proven you're autistic and warped... sorry
...anywhere to watch this?
Thanks....anywhere to watch this?
Liveblog only as far as I know.
http://www.coveritlive.com/index.php?option=com_altcaster&task=siteviewaltcast&altcast_code=b3798a2506&height=600&width=800 (http://www.coveritlive.com/index.php?option=com_altcaster&task=siteviewaltcast&altcast_code=b3798a2506&height=600&width=800)
14:30 -- Namco Bandai's Sakagami says that he wants to use Tag Mode for rankings and exchanging ghost data in Ridge Racer 3D.
14:32 -- He says they'd like to use Tag Mode in a Love Plus game to allow you to tell lies to your girlfriends. Huh?
14:32 -- Next, Mr. Love Plus from Konami.
14:36 -- Iwata introduces the Tag Mode Mii Plaza, where you can view the Miis that you've gathered via Tag Mode.
14:36 -- You can also convert your Miis to a QR Code which can be sent out to SD Card in standard formats and placed on your home page, for instance, so that others can scan it with their 3DS to get your Mii
Iwata shows 3DS feature where hardware can auto-merge two photos into 1 (disturbing) image; demos with himself n miyamoto
huahuaha SD
here we go
VC for GB and GBA games, comes packed in with a 2 GB card
huahuaha SD
I can't wait for hackers to crack that baby open. Free 3DS and GB(A) games. :bow2
The home button can be used to access system functionality mid-game. Background music anyone?
25,000 yen? $300?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
25,000 yen? $300?Hey, they said the same thing about Apple and MP3 players.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
25,000 yen? $300?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
wait really
Feb 26, 25000Y 3DS jpn release!!!
There you have it
that's quite pricey
That's around 300 bucks in US dollars....is this a stealth PSP2 thread?
That's around 300 bucks in US dollars....is this a stealth PSP2 thread?
lol. we all know its gonna sell gangbusters... especially after Christmas. Little chillins saving their Crimmas money
its nintendo, they will get away with it
So you could get a PS3, a 360 or a 3DS.
3DS UK: Up to 32 GB, unless Nintendo releases a firmware update to support SDXC cards at some point.
Mega Man Legends 3 announced.
http://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity (http://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity)
Mega Man Legends 3 announced.
http://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity (http://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity)
Mega Man Legends 3 announced.
http://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity (http://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity)
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-khobY1H2KE[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-khobY1H2KE[/youtube]
For $300, I'd rather buy another 360 even though I think the 3DS in incredibly interesting.
no mario game for launch?
For $300, I'd rather buy another 360 even though I think the 3DS in incredibly interesting.
FF and DQ games come out over there at $90-$100 (or I guess with the current exchange rate more like $120) and then release here at $50-$60. No way it's over $250 in the US and I still doubt that. I think if it's $250, it'll come with an SD card, etc. a la PSP's launch.
no one knows anything about launch games. but I'm gonna assume paper mario is one
Even $250 seems kinda steep to me. The thing would be a sizable SD card and a great line up and/or pack-in title.
I've never played a Legends game. Are they really that good?
I've never played a Legends game. Are they really that good?
no but here's the software reel
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/3ds/lineupMovHigh.html (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/3ds/lineupMovHigh.html)
that reel is just confusing. you see nintendo and capcom's efforts and they look incredible. then you see the shit konami games and they look nearly two generations older :lol
edit: OCARINA OF TIME LOOKS CUM
then you see the shit konami games and they look nearly two generations older
Not impressed. This is where I expected graphics to be a couple years ago. The 2-year old Smartphone chip sets are capable of FAR better. This is closer to PSP than what I wanted the next handheld gen to look like
$250 for a handheld? L O L
$250 for a handheld? L O L
PSP?
edit: yeah smartphones today other than the iphone 4 can really do those capcom games :lol
stfu vagabond
CAN? Yes. But theres no market for smartphone games, thus there are no products that take advantage of this.
How much is an iPod touch these days?
Or an Xbox 360...jesus. So expensive for a kids' handheld.
Can the 3DS run Unreal Engine 3?
That is the same price as the wii launch in 2006. Back then the exchange was $213 without wii sports. I guess it will be cheaper in Europe than in america in terms of the average household. Blame your lame dollar for this. :p:)
Not impressed. This is where I expected graphics to be a couple years ago. The 2-year old Smartphone chip sets are capable of FAR better. This is closer to PSP than what I wanted the next handheld gen to look like
Where is the unified online system? Why does the online still sound like a disjointed and complicated mess?
What exactly justifies the >$200 price point?
who cares about online, give me robust single player games insteadQuoteWhat exactly justifies the >$200 price point?
the 3D tech without the glasses?
who cares about online
3DS will also perform some neat new tricks. It has backlit face buttons -- one of which is the Home button. When pressed, it will bring up an in-game menu enabling users to browse the web, turn Wi-Fi on/off and modify other settings without exiting.
System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.
System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.
It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.
System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.
It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.
wii was 250 not 300, people.
System seems great but we always knew the price was going to be prohibitive. Not saying that doesn't mean you can't mock it but its not surprising because of the tech.
It's kinda surprising considering nintendo has NEVER gone this high before. Although I guess 250 for wii was awfully close, and maybe the NES was that expensive considering inflation. hmmm.
IIRC, the price is the same price as the Wii at launch.
The difference is just the exchange rate was normal then and sucks now. Still they're not going to price it in foreign countries based on temporary swings in exchange rate. It'll be $250 in the US at launch.
Ah yes, tripleA being dumb as per usual
What I don't understand is why RE looks like X360/PS3 and all the other stuff looks like PSP. Ridge Racer looks worse than PSP in fact. Even Asphalt 3DS looks better.
RE looks genuinely good. You can't do the shit you see with some clever tricks. 3DS has good hardware.Mass market has no loyalty,Nintendo will learn that one dayThey already learned that in the 90s, dude.
3DS will sell like hotcakes.
RE looks good because Capcom/Kojima know how to hide stuff in tech demos.
3DS looks like you'll be able to squeeze good visuals with clever corner cutting
...and we're just going to have to get used to polygon starved models/environments in handheld games :\
3DS has good hardware.
wow Tales of the Abyss 3DS!
SOOOOOOOOLD
wow Tales of the Abyss 3DS!
SOOOOOOOOLD
i heard it's just another port :duh
August 18
Early listings of the handheld in the UK list the price as £199.99, which is roughly $300 or ¥25,000 in real money – a price which corresponds with analyst predictions and the general suspicion that nobody would pay any more for it.
I'd also be really wary of dropping bank at launch given the fact that the DSi is region locked.
i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?
i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?
gaf has started talking about something very important...game prices
Nothing announced yet...hmmm
i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?
i can understand an ipad/iphone/ipod touch requiring a long battery life because you do other things on it, but does anyone really sit there and play a handheld game for 8 hours straight?
I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be. First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?
229 is my hope, 250 is my expectation. I'll cover most of that with trade ins anyway 8)
I don't need that dock and don't particularly want it either, if I have the choice. Maybe NOA will do several tiered options? 229 without the dock, 250 with?
shut up patel, I don't want it to be that much :(
In America they're losing money on every DS sold right now, so I'm guessing this won't be different.I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be. First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?
Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.
In America they're losing money on every DS sold right now, so I'm guessing this won't be different.I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be. First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?
Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.
Nintendo usually doesn't lose money on hardware. They must be able to manufacture a DS for dirt cheap these days, the components are way way way old. Have they ever said they were taking a loss on DS hardware!?
But isn't it a charging dock? Isn't that....isn't that more expensive :(
stop itttttttttttttt 250 or bust
I believe they did. It isn't because of hardware costs, but rather the beating the dollar is taking compared to the yen. You don't shave a full third off conversion rates and expect that not to be a factor.In America they're losing money on every DS sold right now, so I'm guessing this won't be different.I'll laugh my ass off if it's 299, but with the yen the way it is now, it would have to be. First Nintendo hardware to lose money at launch?
Looking at the specs there is NO WAY they are losing money on this thing.
Nintendo usually doesn't lose money on hardware. They must be able to manufacture a DS for dirt cheap these days, the components are way way way old. Have they ever said they were taking a loss on DS hardware!?
But isn't it a charging dock? Isn't that....isn't that more expensive :(
stop itttttttttttttt 250 or bust
a charging dock consists of:
- a length of wire
- molded plastic
What part of that costs money?
Apparently Kid Icarus is going to be a pain in the ass to control for southpaws. :lol
:'(
Really? Do not want. ::)Apparently Kid Icarus is going to be a pain in the ass to control for southpaws. :lol
:'(
It's using the metroid prime hunters control scheme, its going to be a pain in the ass for EVERYONE. Seriously, there was no comfortable way to hold the ds when playing Hunters.
gaf has started talking about something very important...game prices
Nothing announced yet...hmmm
It just occured to me if Nintendo bothered to pay royalties so they can have simple things like mp3 support and other popular formats the price tag wouldn't be so bad if I felt I was getting a good media player.
they're also apparently adding in the SD card, the charge dock, and several demos with the system, making the 300 dollar mark sound a bit more reasonable. If they release it in the US without the dock, I could see them justifying 250 at least.
This is hilarious. Nintendo beat Microsoft as the scummiest company this year.
No,they really are the worst
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/30/mario_collection_special_pack_details/
How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?
How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?
How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?
like how RE4 was controlled?
How am I going to control RE5 Mercs with a single analog?
oh bitch bitch bitch tripleA, you know you're going to buy it regardless
Dude it's a handheld, what do you want :-\
Triple
Our Nintendo 3DS lineup is ridiculously good. Mega Man Legends, Super Street Fighter IV and Resident Evil? No one is bringing it like us. - Wes Philips, Capcom’s manager of PR strategy
Someone suggested that the system's price tag of ¥25,000 yen might be on the high side. Iwata responded that the the price was set by considering a number of factors, including reactions to the system's E3 reveal.:rofl :rofl
QuoteOur Nintendo 3DS lineup is ridiculously good. Mega Man Legends, Super Street Fighter IV and Resident Evil? No one is bringing it like us. - Wes Philips, Capcom’s manager of PR strategy
2 ports and a game that still exist as just an artwork
capcom :lol
I don't think the RE game is a port. At least Nintendo fanboys can finally play SSF4, like they've always wanted. :teehee
tripleA, just get your mom to buy it for you
TripleA is right.
weeaboos will like it just like DS,but the rest will be "lol controls are shit,I'd rather play this on real console"...sorry Nintendo,your "third party is important" mantra will fail.
maybe sony will surprise us...oh wait,they will probably release $400 touchscreen only handheld.
Why are handheld console makers so afraid of dual analogs?
What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
I really hope the 3DS turns out to be a disaster. If the system really comes to the US at $300, the price/features ratio is highway robbery.
EDIT: TripleA I don't think anyone's paying attention to you, you should find something better to do with your time.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch, and the market already had a very similar, cheaper console out there that had established itself and that had already had a number of must-have killer apps.
You can't just go "Oh, looks a lot like the Xbox/PS3 situation. 3DS will flop big time."
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.
That overrated handheld that everyone joked about before launch then went on to buy 3-4 time for simple hardware revisions? Yeah, I know. You can stop overreacting.The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.
The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
Bam. Nothing about the 3DS should be surprising to anyone. This is Nintendo's MO.The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.
Sales =/= quality. The DS isn't really that astounding if you factor system sales out of the picture.
That overrated handheld that everyone joked about before launch then went on to buy 3-4 time for simple hardware revisions?The company that made the Wii got everything right? Get real.What would possess someone to post something like that, and in that format? Anyone know?
Perhaps overwhelming disappointment in a company that got so much right before and now looks like getting everything wrong.
You do know that it's the same company that made the DS, right.
3D gimick ?
same shitty games AGAIN?
You just know that 99% of parents are going "well, i remember nintendroid Game cubes handheld ruling the roost - i guess i should get this new 3DS thing. How do i play The Bravatar movie on this ?"Quotethe Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
the first gen DS was a steaming pile of horse shit. Just saying.
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.
"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.
"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"
Shockingly similar to this one.
"GIMMICK?!FAD!!!"
"MOTION CONTROLS!?!?!??"
"HAHAHAHAHA TV REMOTE"
The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch, and the market already had a very similar, cheaper console out there that had established itself and that had already had a number of must-have killer apps.
You can't just go "Oh, looks a lot like the Xbox/PS3 situation. 3DS will flop big time."
You're right.
The Ps3 failed in it's first year because it was $599 and cost $100+ more than the competitor, had an inferior control and input interface than the competitor, had a vastly inferior online experience than the competitor, and the best looking game which happened to be the 'killer app' was exclusive to the competitor's platform.
So again, you're right.
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
Haha I remember when everyone was shitting on ds pre-release.
"GIMMICK?!"
"TWO SCREENS!??!?!"
"HAHAHAHAHA TOUCH CONTROLS"
Shockingly similar to this one.
"GIMMICK?!FAD!!!"
"MOTION CONTROLS!?!?!??"
"HAHAHAHAHA TV REMOTE"
And look how super awesome the Wii turned out.
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.
Ouendan and Trauma Center justified touch controls pretty quickly.
I didn't say there weren't any. Just not many. :teeheeThe Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.
Ouendan and Trauma Center justified touch controls pretty quickly.
:bow KIRBY CANVAS CURSE :bow2
The PS3 didn't flop because it was expensive, although the $600 price tag probably didn't do it any favors. It flopped because it was really expensive, had no must-have killer apps for about a year after launch.
I thought that level of faggotry was contained at gaf :(
There are enough games that justify the DS touch screen. There are none that justify two small screens versus one large one.
The Wii is just overflowing with amazing games that justify the need for motion controls. Same for the DS and touch controls.
I really wouldn't call 1 and a half resident evils, a port, a sequel to megaman 64 and a ps2 port impresive third party support.
From andriasangQuoteSomeone suggested that the system's price tag of ¥25,000 yen might be on the high side. Iwata responded that the the price was set by considering a number of factors, including reactions to the system's E3 reveal.:rofl :rofl
This is why I fucking hate geeks and their geekgasms. I hold BrandNew responsible for this.
There are enough games that justify the DS touch screen. There are none that justify two small screens versus one large one.
I actually adore map screens. Having access to a minimap and having to pause to see the big map is a pet peeve of mine. I'm just lazy like that.
edit: There's also the fact that Nintendo realised during r&d of the ds that sometimes a game would require the input be divorced from the output. That is to say, a game might benefit from a touch interface but not necessarily on top of the onscreen action. Kinda like how alot of iphone games suck because your fingers end up obscuring what's happening.
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
you know i just realized something.....
http://n3ds.blog6.fc2.com/blog-entry-101.htmlQuoteAugust 18
Early listings of the handheld in the UK list the price as £199.99, which is roughly $300 or ¥25,000 in real money – a price which corresponds with analyst predictions and the general suspicion that nobody would pay any more for it.
uh-oh
you know i really hope this bombs really hard for the first year because it's pretty clear nintendo needs a cockslap similiar to the one received by sony when they announced ps3
Yeah, but Sony also priced the PS3 at fucking 600 dollars. And it had no gayyyyymes mang
Nintendo is potentially pricing the 3DS at $300 and we have no idea when most of these games are coming out.
QuoteNintendo is potentially pricing the 3DS at $300 and we have no idea when most of these games are coming out.
Uh, no. Over half of the games showcased are listed as Spring 2011 titles. Nintendo even went far enough to label the ones that weren't expected as Spring 2011 titles, including Mario Kart, one of their biggest titles for the system.
So far there is a potential launch window of games including:
Ocarina of Time
Star Fox
Kid Icarus
Paper Mario
Nintendo Dogs + Cats
Pilot Wings
Resident Evil
Street Fighter IV
Dead or Alive
Monkey Ball
Professor Layton
and some shit third party games no one cares about
and of course all of these won't be available at launch, but Nintendo plans to have most of them out probably by the end of summer 2011. That's more than I ever saw from the PS3's pre-release announcements.
This is a dumb argument anyway. 3DS looks sick, won't be 300 dollars, and it will have Paper Mario. fucking sold
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
So what, all the butthurt psp fanboys are going to pile on now? Gedouddaheer!
360 didn't have games when it came out either, MAYBE geometry wars. I honestly think the ps3's situation is just THAT simple. It was obscenely expensive. I don't want to make any predictions about the 3ds. There is a precedent with how expensive mp3 players and cell phones are getting, but I may just be imagining a correlation there.
triple a triple post, hiiiiiiiYAHH!
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
Are you saying Nintendo Dogs wasn't revolutionary because it wasn't a day 1 release?
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
Are you saying Nintendo Dogs wasn't revolutionary because it wasn't a day 1 release?
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to bring up software that came out a year later when we are talking about how something might not be successful out of the gate due to high price.
AT THAT POINT that DS was released it was doing nothing right.
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
Are you saying Nintendo Dogs wasn't revolutionary because it wasn't a day 1 release?
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to bring up software that came out a year later when we are talking about how something might not be successful out of the gate due to high price.
AT THAT POINT that DS was released it was doing nothing right.
I completely disagree; as a touch-enabled handheld gaming device, they absolutely nailed it right out of the gate.
Pac Pix was only "good" if you were starved for novelty. It was a fun tech demo that wasn't worth the 20-30 dollars at the time. It would be a 99 cent app in this day and age.
Next handheld battle will be tough for PSP2.
Compared to the PSP1 and the handheld gaming market at that point, the Nintendo DS got everything absolutely right.
:rofl
Is "absolutely right" the achievement of not releasing a single compelling game that wasn't a port, remake or JRPG? That's some great variety. You're still talking about this from an investor's point of view. In terms of marketing, the DS was great. And in those same terms, it seemed to beat the PSP at every turn. But when you look at it from a software perspective, even PSP's hamstrung third-party support managed to pop out more variety than Nintendo's console.
It's easy for people to look at it from a basement dweller's perspective, but in the real world, it is powerful and accessible software that will always excel.
'Casual' is 'accessible'. If people are still having a hard time admitting the DS's 'casual' offerings were incredibly fun, genuinely compelling and completely accessible, then those same people are going to be in a shock when Kinect and Dance Central numbers come in. Hint: it's going to fucking dominate this christmas.
Nintendo Dogs redefined the handheld market forever. Nintendo did indeed get it absolutely right.
You do realize Nintendo Dogs came out almost a year after DS, right? That the DS completely floundered out of the gate?
Are you saying Nintendo Dogs wasn't revolutionary because it wasn't a day 1 release?
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to bring up software that came out a year later when we are talking about how something might not be successful out of the gate due to high price.
AT THAT POINT that DS was released it was doing nothing right.
I completely disagree; as a touch-enabled handheld gaming device, they absolutely nailed it right out of the gate.
jesus christ, no. and I love the DS. you're terrible.
have we all decided that tripleA is nintendobooger?
I'm really looking forward to the 3DS. The support is great. Next handheld battle will be tough for PSP2.
What makes you think I'm Nintendobooger
Only in Japan. i got a DS at launch and didn't play shit until Meteos and Kirby in July or August. Nintendo Dogs didn't hit Europe until October.
Also why is there a word filter that turns Nintendogs into Nintendo Dogs? :lol
The only fuck up Sony did with the psp was the piracy thing, the psp is by far the best portable gaming device on the market.
The only fuck up Sony did with the psp was the piracy thing, the psp is by far the best portable gaming device on the market.
The only fuck up Sony did with the psp was the piracy thing, the psp is by far the best portable gaming device on the market.
DS is far more piratable and easier to pirate even - you can emulate it now
You gotta buy a memory card for PSP. It costs about the same as a DS cart + SDHC
The only fuck up Sony did with the psp was the piracy thing, the psp is by far the best portable gaming device on the market.
DS is far more piratable and easier to pirate even - you can emulate it now
To pirate the console you need to buy shit, for the psp all you need is an usb cable, you are right about the emus though.
More like TripleF amirite?
Regarding the DS launch, I was one of the very few that liked Super Mario 64 DS. I got all of the stars with the D-Pad and liked the new additions the game added. Still vastly superior to games like NSMB and YI2, both were games that look and played like they were designed by interns and fanboys.
see, i think the opposite
instead of focusing on minigames (although they should have those as well), they need to be making into even MORE of a console experience, so that when you are not playing it on the go you can jack it into your tv and use it like a portable ps2.5 (or so)
fully integrated bluetooth dualshock compatibility with support for four controllers
mini-hdmi port with adapter in the box
games which support split-screen/same-screen multiplayer when the unit is connected to a tv
wireless LAN play between two units connected to two tvs
iPhone/Touch has the casual minigame market pretty well wrapped, and nintendo's gonna eat up all the leftovers, so sony has nowhere to go with this other than selling it as a highly portable/powerful console
if i knew i could buy a psp2, throw it in a bag with a couple of ps3 controllers (which i already own), take it over to a friend's house and jack it into the tv, and play a split-screen racer or co-op shooter, i'd pre-order one tomorrow
but if it's just me on the couch playing the same psp games only a little bit prettier, they can keep it
Regarding the DS launch, I was one of the very few that liked Super Mario 64 DS. I got all of the stars with the D-Pad and liked the new additions the game added. Still vastly superior to games like NSMB and YI2, both were games that look and played like they were designed by interns and fanboys.
What makes you think I'm Nintendobooger
lol. well... "someone" who claimed to be him was telling everyone to unban him... then you appear
:whistle
PSP2 certainly has other grounds they can compete on with 3DS. ie how 360 differentiates itself from PS3 with better online features. If PSP2 has better integration with PSN (trophies, friends, etc), the online service is good (Digital Distribution is done right, things download fast, theres a feeling of a solid online community) I think that's a big market right there and it's something handhelds haven't done right yet. The rumoured touch controls sound interesting too, I think if they have basic features like component/hdmi out with bluetooth controller tethering that would be a massive boon for the system with casuals and the hardcore. I wouldn't be surprised to see a host of PS2 remakes/ports for the system at launch too similar to this 3DS launch line up.
almost all games released for the system are built as "console quality" experiences that nobody wants to play because they can play better "console quality" games on fucking consoles.
iphone games do well because they cost a dollar
Sony would be best carving a niche as the only person offering a premium gaming handheld as premium products are what they do best.
see, i think the opposite
instead of focusing on minigames (although they should have those as well), they need to be making into even MORE of a console experience, so that when you are not playing it on the go you can jack it into your tv and use it like a portable ps2.5 (or so)
fully integrated bluetooth dualshock compatibility with support for four controllers
mini-hdmi port with adapter in the box
games which support split-screen/same-screen multiplayer when the unit is connected to a tv
wireless LAN play between two units connected to two tvs
iPhone/Touch has the casual minigame market pretty well wrapped, and nintendo's gonna eat up all the leftovers, so sony has nowhere to go with this other than selling it as a highly portable/powerful console
if i knew i could buy a psp2, throw it in a bag with a couple of ps3 controllers (which i already own), take it over to a friend's house and jack it into the tv, and play a split-screen racer or co-op shooter, i'd pre-order one tomorrow
but if it's just me on the couch playing the same psp games only a little bit prettier, they can keep it
almost all games released for the system are built as "console quality" experiences that nobody wants to play because they can play better "console quality" games on fucking consoles.
And this is exactly why I think Nintendo need to wake the fuck up with the 3DS.
Metal Gear Solid? Assassins Creed? Dead or Alive? Saints Row? Resident Evil? Ridge Racer? Splinter Cell? Super Street Fighter? DJ Hero?
Have they learned nothing from PSP?
Nintendo can get away with it as they will have a perfect balance of casual titles and hardcore titles.
Sony would be best carving a niche as the only person offering a premium gaming handheld as premium products are what they do best.
True. As much as I think they could make something I could be into, they're not going to be first to market, the PSP was outsold 2 fold by the DS and from what I can discern, has a lower tie ratio - something like 4.5 -> DS's 4.8 pretty similar but when you factor in DS sold twice as many :lol and it's most recent iteration is unpopular and widely criticised. I can't imagine Nintendo not beating them into a pulp at market yet again, they'll be able to secure a niche though, and they'll probably do fairly well like with PSP. Whatever success they do have with PSP2 will no doubt be overshadowed by 3DS's success. Seems fairly well written in stone to me.
Maybe the PSP2 can be some all in one media wonder but when most people think of "PlayStation", they think "video games" not iPad copycat. I could be wrong but it doesn't seem like the PSP2 would do well by any metric, just hoping that it might have a decent dedicated fanbase in the face of more popular alternatives.
see, i think the opposite
instead of focusing on minigames (although they should have those as well), they need to be making into even MORE of a console experience, so that when you are not playing it on the go you can jack it into your tv and use it like a portable ps2.5 (or so)
fully integrated bluetooth dualshock compatibility with support for four controllers
mini-hdmi port with adapter in the box
games which support split-screen/same-screen multiplayer when the unit is connected to a tv
wireless LAN play between two units connected to two tvs
iPhone/Touch has the casual minigame market pretty well wrapped, and nintendo's gonna eat up all the leftovers, so sony has nowhere to go with this other than selling it as a highly portable/powerful console
if i knew i could buy a psp2, throw it in a bag with a couple of ps3 controllers (which i already own), take it over to a friend's house and jack it into the tv, and play a split-screen racer or co-op shooter, i'd pre-order one tomorrow
but if it's just me on the couch playing the same psp games only a little bit prettier, they can keep it
This all sounds like what YOU want the psp2 to be, as opposed to what will make it successful. The market for portable gaming are kids and their Nintendo franchises and adults on their phone who want a quick diversion when waiting in line. That's the practical reality of it. Nothing you described above comes across as an advantage over a home console, other than that's a lighter load.
almost all games released for the system are built as "console quality" experiences that nobody wants to play because they can play better "console quality" games on fucking consoles.
And this is exactly why I think Nintendo need to wake the fuck up with the 3DS.
Metal Gear Solid? Assassins Creed? Dead or Alive? Saints Row? Resident Evil? Ridge Racer? Splinter Cell? Super Street Fighter? DJ Hero?
Have they learned nothing from PSP?
Nintendo can get away with it as they will have a perfect balance of casual titles and hardcore titles.
You mean just like how Sony had the perfect balance of casual and hardcore titles going into the PSP and PS3?
And you're completely fooling yourself if you think Nintendo didn't approach the majority of 'confirmed' developers -specifically western developers- for 3DS content.
Sony didn't have a balance of casual and core titles that would actually sell.
and the graphic whore/nerdbag market is really the only niche left that they can fill
almost all games released for the system are built as "console quality" experiences that nobody wants to play because they can play better "console quality" games on fucking consoles.
And this is exactly why I think Nintendo need to wake the fuck up with the 3DS.
Metal Gear Solid? Assassins Creed? Dead or Alive? Saints Row? Resident Evil? Ridge Racer? Splinter Cell? Super Street Fighter? DJ Hero?
Have they learned nothing from PSP?
Nintendo can get away with it as they will have a perfect balance of casual titles and hardcore titles.
You mean just like how Sony had the perfect balance of casual and hardcore titles going into the PSP and PS3?
And you're completely fooling yourself if you think Nintendo didn't approach the majority of 'confirmed' developers -specifically western developers- for 3DS content.
Sony didn't have a balance of casual and core titles that would actually sell.
:lol yeah, no. :lol
The platform with the most shovelware has always been the platform that sells the most.
you guys keep saying they should aim for the nintendo and apple markets, but you're forgetting that those markets are already filled by, well, nintendo and apple
almost all games released for the system are built as "console quality" experiences that nobody wants to play because they can play better "console quality" games on fucking consoles.
And this is exactly why I think Nintendo need to wake the fuck up with the 3DS.
Metal Gear Solid? Assassins Creed? Dead or Alive? Saints Row? Resident Evil? Ridge Racer? Splinter Cell? Super Street Fighter? DJ Hero?
Have they learned nothing from PSP?
Nintendo can get away with it as they will have a perfect balance of casual titles and hardcore titles.
You mean just like how Sony had the perfect balance of casual and hardcore titles going into the PSP and PS3?
And you're completely fooling yourself if you think Nintendo didn't approach the majority of 'confirmed' developers -specifically western developers- for 3DS content.
Sony didn't have a balance of casual and core titles that would actually sell.
:lol yeah, no. :lol
The platform with the most shovelware has always been the platform that sells the most.
...or maybe the platform that sells the most has always gotten the most shovelware. Just sayin'
from the rumors, it's already going to be powerful enough to support everything i listed previously, so i don't see where it would hurt them or add any real cost to add that functionality and make it part of the marketing
what's the point of developing hardware more powerful than last gen's consoles if you're not going to utilize it and cram a bunch of cartoon tower defense games on the marketplace?
you guys keep saying they should aim for the nintendo and apple markets, but you're forgetting that those markets are already filled by, well, nintendo and apple
a potential customer is going to see a psp2 marketed in that way and say to themselves "why do i need to spend $300 on this fucking thing when i can already play angry birds on my phone?"
but what other handheld out there could be used to play a game on the bus (or on your lunch break, etc), then be taken home, plugged into your tv/surround system, and wirelessly connected to a couple of controllers so that you could continue the same game on the big screen with a friend/family member?
not a one - and that's an interesting, salable feature
Bu bu bu Mark Rein says the 3DS is underpowered for Unreal Engine 3
Bu bu bu Mark Rein says the DS sucks too much for Unreal Engine 3
I wouldn't mind a portable Gears of War.
I wouldn't mind a portable Gears of War.
Weren't you slamming the 3DS for making the same "home-console-on-the-go" mistakes as the PSP? Wouldn't GeoW qualify as a console game that'd be crippled on a handheld? ???
Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has confirmed the 3DS will come with a special charger cradle.:P
Speaking during this month's Iwata Asks he said, "As for the battery, it is inevitable that Nintendo 3DS will be a device which requires more frequent recharging than Nintendo DS.
"This is why we are going to include the cradle, which is a dedicated battery charger."
And just in case 3DS owners forget to use it, Nintendo's going to offer a helpful reminder. "Perhaps we may need to dispatch to our consumers a message, something like, "Please place your Nintendo 3DS on the cradle as soon as you return home with it."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-08-charge-cradle-confirmed-for-3ds (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-08-charge-cradle-confirmed-for-3ds)QuoteNintendo president Satoru Iwata has confirmed the 3DS will come with a special charger cradle.:P
Speaking during this month's Iwata Asks he said, "As for the battery, it is inevitable that Nintendo 3DS will be a device which requires more frequent recharging than Nintendo DS.
"This is why we are going to include the cradle, which is a dedicated battery charger."
And just in case 3DS owners forget to use it, Nintendo's going to offer a helpful reminder. "Perhaps we may need to dispatch to our consumers a message, something like, "Please place your Nintendo 3DS on the cradle as soon as you return home with it."
No surprise,Nintendo was always cheap,3DS has probably DS battery :Phttp://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-08-charge-cradle-confirmed-for-3ds (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-08-charge-cradle-confirmed-for-3ds)QuoteNintendo president Satoru Iwata has confirmed the 3DS will come with a special charger cradle.:P
Speaking during this month's Iwata Asks he said, "As for the battery, it is inevitable that Nintendo 3DS will be a device which requires more frequent recharging than Nintendo DS.
"This is why we are going to include the cradle, which is a dedicated battery charger."
And just in case 3DS owners forget to use it, Nintendo's going to offer a helpful reminder. "Perhaps we may need to dispatch to our consumers a message, something like, "Please place your Nintendo 3DS on the cradle as soon as you return home with it."
And...this is a surprise how?
No surprise,Nintendo was always cheap,3DS has probably DS battery :Phttp://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-08-charge-cradle-confirmed-for-3ds (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-08-charge-cradle-confirmed-for-3ds)QuoteNintendo president Satoru Iwata has confirmed the 3DS will come with a special charger cradle.:P
Speaking during this month's Iwata Asks he said, "As for the battery, it is inevitable that Nintendo 3DS will be a device which requires more frequent recharging than Nintendo DS.
"This is why we are going to include the cradle, which is a dedicated battery charger."
And just in case 3DS owners forget to use it, Nintendo's going to offer a helpful reminder. "Perhaps we may need to dispatch to our consumers a message, something like, "Please place your Nintendo 3DS on the cradle as soon as you return home with it."
And...this is a surprise how?
The 3DS is sounding more and more like the PSP1.
I think the touch screen on the back of a psp2 would be used for games that just use that one side. So essentially, it would be a ds, but you either play button games on one side or touchscreen games akin to smartphones on the other.
I think the touch screen on the back of a psp2 would be used for games that just use that one side. So essentially, it would be a ds, but you either play button games on one side or touchscreen games akin to smartphones on the other.
That sounds stupid. It's like the Motorola Backflip then, more or less:
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(yes it flips the wrong way around)
The PSP2 should be all touch. Like, every inch of the device should respond to touch.