THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: magus on November 06, 2010, 04:55:32 PM
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i tought this would be good for a laugh!
http://www.ign.com/top-ps2-games/
god hand gets place number 100!
It's easy to mistake God Hand for a terrible game
ayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppppppppppppppp :lol
anyway place 1 is neither god of war or gta... shocking i knows!
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blough, SoTC is nowhere near the best PS2 game
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WHY IS FREQUENCY ONLY 27 COMMIE FUCKS
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i want to see the himuro rage for when he see suikoden 3 is only 47 :teehee
also persona 3 FES is 26
the highlight about it?
You could sing Karaoke at night for in-game courage
if they asked me what was good about persona 3 i would answer the same :smug
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That list has a whole bunch of mediocre games on it (with plenty of great games missing) and the ordering is fucked. What a mess.
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Is Eternal Ring or King's FIeld on this list
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Where is SMT Nocturne? ???
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Two days after God Hand's U.S. release, the game's development studio was shut down
:rofl
What a piece of shit game. Hopefully Vanquish kills Platinum next
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Where is SMT Nocturne? ???
not as good as Rogue Galaxy
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:rofl
i guess they filled the shin megami quota by putting persona 3 somewhere :teehee
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Good list. SotC being #1 doesn't bother me.
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I still can't believe how good the top 5 is.
Two Team Ico games. :bow2
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holy fuck i owned like 70 ps2 games and surprisingly few were on that list. why are there so many sports games, and why is every sony-developed game on there?
also lol @ all 3 kingdom hearts games on the list
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blough, SoTC is nowhere near the best PS2 game
smh
wtf! San Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice City>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>III, I don't care about significance to the console or whatever San Andreas is a much much better game.
Also GOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW II.
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smh
vice city > iii > sa
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Good list. SotC being #1 doesn't bother me.
ign ::)
If they just made MGS3 #1, I wouldn't even care about the rest of the list.
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Bully > Every GTA ever. As for SotC supremacy I guess IGN's editors have the assburgers. Kind of explains a lot.
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Good to see Aggresive Inline in there, it ruled.
Battle Engine Aquila fucking sucked. What a terrible list
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:bow SOTC
Forget games-as-art nonsense. It's just a legitimately great game.
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worst top100 ever. Either that or the PS2 is incredibly overrated.
my #1 would be Persona 4.
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and that would be truly the worst top 100 ever!
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sorry,sorry i just get really bitter over persona :-\
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blough, SoTC is nowhere near the best PS2 game
smh
wtf! San Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice City>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>III, I don't care about significance to the console or whatever San Andreas is a much much better game.
Also GOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW II.
WRONG! III was groundbreaking in so many ways, VC and San Andreas were just noodling unneeded details into an already structural function, like some spider on LSD. Liberty City Stories is III with a map and a user-adjustable camera; it's pretty great. SA is too big, Vice City is too flat.
Bully > Every GTA ever. As for SotC supremacy I guess IGN's editors have the assburgers. Kind of explains a lot.
Truer words were never spoken. Bully is great; it shows what works, why GTA III's systems were so compelling, while eschewing the violence and sex that made GTA series such a media catalyzer.
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Bully and GTA = apples and oranges
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blough, SoTC is nowhere near the best PS2 game
smh
wtf! San Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice City>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>III, I don't care about significance to the console or whatever San Andreas is a much much better game.
Also GOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW II.
WRONG! III was groundbreaking in so many ways, VC and San Andreas were just noodling unneeded details into an already structural function, like some spider on LSD. Liberty City Stories is III with a map and a user-adjustable camera; it's pretty great. SA is too big, Vice City is too flat.
So much wrong in this post, too big? what the fuck!?
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Now Sandbox games are "too big"
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San Andreas was THE game of last gen. GTAIII may have been the catalyst and Vice City may have had the soundtrack, but San Andreas is infinitely better than either of the the two without a doubt. And it's still the only one of the three that's still playable today. GTAIII and VC feel absolutely fucking distinguished mentally-challenged now....I don't know why those controls didn't bother me back then.
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Bully > Every GTA ever. As for SotC supremacy I guess IGN's editors have the assburgers. Kind of explains a lot.
This. A thousand times this. Bully is my favorite game out of the entire PS2 library, it's fucking fantastic.
SotC is far from the "best game" on PS2. I have to agree with Beezy, MGS3:S would've made more sense.
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Bully > Every GTA ever. As for SotC supremacy I guess IGN's editors have the assburgers. Kind of explains a lot.
This. A thousand times this. Bully is my favorite game out of the entire PS2 library, it's fucking fantastic.
SotC is far from the "best game" on PS2. I have to agree with Beezy, MGS3:S would've made more sense.
Hell FFXII would make more sense than Shadow of the Crap framerate
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Bully and GTA = apples and oranges
It's a GTA game without all the trappings that put people in a tizzy. So if GTA = tizzy-making to you, if you're taking it from the perspective of visual style, maturity of tone, amount of violence or sex, sure. I agree. If you're talking about writing style, gameplay, progression... I'm not sure what to say.
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what an absolute shit stain of a list. No Gradius V? Outrun 2006?
20 Sly Cooper and Ratchet games?
God why did I even click this thread.
Once again the ancient Chinese proverb rings true: "You cant spell ignorant, without IGN"
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Bully and GTA = apples and oranges
It's a GTA game without all the trappings that put people in a tizzy. So if GTA = tizzy-making to you, if you're taking it from the perspective of visual style, maturity of tone, amount of violence or sex, sure. I agree. If you're talking about writing style, gameplay, progression... I'm not sure what to say.
It's really not a GTA game though aside from the fact that they're both open world games. GTA is about driving and shooting while Bully is a brawler. Generic sandbox elements are about the only things they share.
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Bully and GTA = apples and oranges
It's a GTA game without all the trappings that put people in a tizzy. So if GTA = tizzy-making to you, if you're taking it from the perspective of visual style, maturity of tone, amount of violence or sex, sure. I agree. If you're talking about writing style, gameplay, progression... I'm not sure what to say.
It's really not a GTA game though aside from the fact that they're both open world games. GTA is about driving and shooting while Bully is a brawler. Generic sandbox elements are about the only things they share.
I compare GTA and Bully on the grounds that they were published by a company that usually leads the pack in sandbox games.
imo GTA and Bully have more in common than GTA and Saint's Row.
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Bully and GTA = apples and oranges
It's a GTA game without all the trappings that put people in a tizzy. So if GTA = tizzy-making to you, if you're taking it from the perspective of visual style, maturity of tone, amount of violence or sex, sure. I agree. If you're talking about writing style, gameplay, progression... I'm not sure what to say.
It's really not a GTA game though aside from the fact that they're both open world games. GTA is about driving and shooting while Bully is a brawler. Generic sandbox elements are about the only things they share.
They're very similar if you compare them to a lot of other games out there. It's like how you'd compare Oblivion to Fallout 3.
But yeah, I wouldn't say Bully is the best GTA game. This is going to sound stupid but both games had different thrills even though you can argue that some of the progression is similar.
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Bully and GTA = apples and oranges
It's a GTA game without all the trappings that put people in a tizzy. So if GTA = tizzy-making to you, if you're taking it from the perspective of visual style, maturity of tone, amount of violence or sex, sure. I agree. If you're talking about writing style, gameplay, progression... I'm not sure what to say.
It's really not a GTA game though aside from the fact that they're both open world games. GTA is about driving and shooting while Bully is a brawler. Generic sandbox elements are about the only things they share.
That's a good point; it hadn't dawned on me that BULLY's OWG "flavor" is a brawler. Rather than taking the genre-based perspective that you have, I've always assumed that the hand-to-hand in GTA series, including the "improved" HtH in GTA IV, sucked balls because there's no call to go HtH because the emphasis is on ranged combat. I've been lumping ranged and hand-to-hand combat together, and now that seems like an oversimplification.
But it's also unnecessarily limiting to claim that BULLY is entirely different from GTA because of the balance of the type of combat. They share more gameplay than you can find differing examples, I'll guess. Even given the "generic sandbox" elements, you've still got an emphasis on vehicle-based transportation (even if it's a skateboard and bicycles), establishing a Wanted Level during mission completion (or free play) and evasion of authority figures as a win condition... and despite the brawler sensibility that comes from having tuned melee gameplay, the mid- to endgame is largely about ranged combat, with the spud gun, rocket launcher, and even a sniper-scope on the slingshot.
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lol, i have 98 of the top 100.
And i agree with SOTC as number one, screw tha hatas.
Not hating. It's good, but not MGS3 good.
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The Warriors > Bully
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blough, SoTC is nowhere near the best PS2 game
smh
wtf! San Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice City>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>III, I don't care about significance to the console or whatever San Andreas is a much much better game.
Also GOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW II.
WRONG! III was groundbreaking in so many ways, VC and San Andreas were just noodling unneeded details into an already structural function, like some spider on LSD. Liberty City Stories is III with a map and a user-adjustable camera; it's pretty great. SA is too big, Vice City is too flat.
Bully > Every GTA ever. As for SotC supremacy I guess IGN's editors have the assburgers. Kind of explains a lot.
Truer words were never spoken. Bully is great; it shows what works, why GTA III's systems were so compelling, while eschewing the violence and sex that made GTA series such a media catalyzer.
GTA3 is my favorite GTA. VC was flat, that much is true, but it nailed everything else.
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The Warriors > Bully
Well, it was a better brawler, no mistake. Then again, it was clearly just a brawler.
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The Warriors > Bully
Well, it was a better brawler, no mistake. Then again, it was clearly just a brawler.
You're right, but I'm talking as a game. I felt it was the most underrated R* game of last gen, and I'm amazed that Rockstar didn't use it as a premise for GTA4. I mean, the whole "npc's have to call the cops before the cops arrive" thing was novel, and it left for a lot of gameplay opportunities, leaves you the chance to bust their heads open before they dial 911. And even when the cops do arrive, if you play your cards right you can avoid detection by hiding in the shadows. The moveset, the way you got new moves, the variety, the atmosphere, the music, the dialogue... Amazing game. Unlike others, I was never too impressed by Bully. I thought it was mostly boring.
San Andreas was THE game of last gen. GTAIII may have been the catalyst and Vice City may have had the soundtrack, but San Andreas is infinitely better than either of the the two without a doubt. And it's still the only one of the three that's still playable today. GTAIII and VC feel absolutely fucking distinguished mentally-challenged now....I don't know why those controls didn't bother me back then.
Play on pc. Controls are fine. Well, except for driving.
San Andreas is the only ps2 GTA (well, not count LCS and VCS, which are great too) I've never sucessfully replayed. I can replay GTA3 and pull off one heck of a speed run, completing it in only 5 hours, I played the shit out of that game and can still play the shit out of that game today. Vice City is objectively better however, due to the better missions and variety. Although it's not my favorite (it's my second favortie), Vice City is objectively the best Grand Theft Auto, particularly on pc.
San Andreas was what I considered the top dog..when it came out. But replaying it is torture. It's too big, locations are too far apart, playing the taxi, ambulance, or cop R3 missions are torture because everything is fucking five minutes away, which loses the arcade-y feel that GTA is known for. The car physics are trash and most cars just aren't too fun to drive. The characters are ridiculous, the missions even more ridiculous. The game has a lot of great ideas, but I don't think it has aged well at all; it feels like a plethora of ideas not executed well rather than a lot of great ones. Still, it's a classic in the pages of history, well deserved in fact.
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Not hating. It's good, but not MGS3 good.
MGS3 just didn't click for me - i got about half way through and just wasn't "getting" it, i need to go back and go back through it
Have you played Subsistence (or whatever the re-release was called)?
I liked MGS3 a lot when I first played it, but I had problems with the camera because it couldn't keep up with the newer more open levels. Subsistence lets you have a regular camera you could rotate around snake with the right stick and helped make the game better.
I wonder if they will let you move and shoot in the 3DS version.
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People always talk about how great the third person camera is but it's not always ideal. Thankfully the game lets you choose between top down and third person on the fly by clicking in right stick.
Still, I don't think his problem will go away. MGS3 is great, but it's such a slow fucking game. Easily the slowest MGS, and that's why its' the least replayable for me despite it arguably being my favorite. It's hiding in the grass, your face in mud all the damn time, and that slows the game pacing tremendously. Not to mention, when you do get caught, the alert lasts for too damn long.
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It was the correct way to do a movie game, give us a side story along with the story of the movie.
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The Warriors > Bully
The Warriors is my favorite Rockstar game. I'd even go as far as to say it's their best game. Everything about it felt perfect.
I would too.
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The real tragedy is that The Warriors is not bc on either 360 or ps3.
Fucking bullshit.
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Have you played Subsistence (or whatever the re-release was called)?
I liked MGS3 a lot when I first played it, but I had problems with the camera because it couldn't keep up with the newer more open levels. Subsistence lets you have a regular camera you could rotate around snake with the right stick and helped make the game better.
I wonder if they will let you move and shoot in the 3DS version.
Subsistence was the version I played. I can't imagine the game without that extra camera angle.
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Eh, it's not too bad. Well, at the time.