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Title: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 19, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3182479

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-19-donkey-kong-country-returns-review

http://wii.ign.com/articles/113/1135734p1.html

I'll let you guys decide whether that's a good thing or not. :smug
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 19, 2010, 06:57:39 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle



Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on November 19, 2010, 07:00:09 PM
This game looks pretty fun judging from the videos.  Could be the first good Donkey Kong Country game, though, still probably fall short of Jungle Beat.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 19, 2010, 07:02:20 PM
Jungle Beat's crap, so Retro shouldn't have that much difficulty in surpassing it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on November 19, 2010, 07:04:36 PM
don't be mad that you lack the arm strength to use the gamecube bongos

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 19, 2010, 07:07:38 PM
This game looks pretty fun judging from the videos.  Could be the first good Donkey Kong Country game, though, still probably fall short of Jungle Beat.

yea! jungle beat is awesome and it piss me off how's everybody has their eye on this game but nobody gave a shit about jungle beat

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVYlfF-qqTs&feature=related[/youtube]

don't be mad that you lack the arm strength to use the gamecube bongos

i played the wii version :smug
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Bebpo on November 19, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
Jungle Beat's crap, so Retro shouldn't have that much difficulty in surpassing it.

FAIL
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 19, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
don't be mad that you lack the arm strength to use the gamecube bongos



It's not my fault, it's a condition! AIGHT?  :maf

 :'(
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: iconoclast on November 19, 2010, 07:10:49 PM
There's a wii version of jungle beat? Never knew that. Does it work with the gc bongos?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 19, 2010, 07:15:50 PM
There's a wii version of jungle beat?

ayup,it was the last new play control game released,bongo controls have been replaced with normal controls,
(well normal wii controls... you still fight boss and punch thing by waggling) i think they also changed some thing around... in this version you unlock level in sets of 3 without trouble while i seems to remember that in the original you are forced to get a high score to unlock the next level?

other game in the series included pikmin and pikmin 2 with pointer abilities,mario power tennis with waggle control and the metroid prime trilogy

there was also a redone version of chibi robo but it was japan only because nintendo is a cheap fuck like that! >:(
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Damian79 on November 19, 2010, 08:44:38 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle





You fail to mention even then they gave the game an 8 and that it is better than new super mario brothers wii and a toss up between kirby's epic yarn.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 19, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle


You fail to mention even then they gave the game an 8 and that it is better than new super mario brothers wii and a toss up between kirby's epic yarn.

Gamespy gave it a 7.0, but they're biggest complaint was that the game was TOO HARD. :lol
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Bebpo on November 19, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Too hard because of good challenge or because of shitty waggle fucking up jumps?

The answer will determine if the game rocks or sucks.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 19, 2010, 09:12:04 PM
Too hard because of good challenge or because of shitty waggle fucking up jumps?

The answer will determine if the game rocks or sucks.

Here's what it says:

Quote
Somewhere between 1996 and 2010, Diddy got himself a cool jetpack, which comes with a very handy hover-jump. Many of the game's most challenging areas are designed with this ability in mind... which means if you've lost Diddy (take two hits, and it's back to the barrel for him), things tend to get a lot harder. Never impossible, mind you, but it damn sure feels that way sometimes.

Quote
But if I take offense to anything, it's the hellish levels that saddle you in an airborne barrel-ship, forcing you to exercise measured button-presses in order to control your elevation and flight angle as nonstop obstacles bombard you... all resulting in one-hit kills.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Damian79 on November 19, 2010, 09:12:37 PM
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You see, in his quest to rid his home island of weird tiki invaders (whose hypnotic powers have turned the wildlife feral), Donkey Kong enlists the help of constant series sidekick Diddy Kong, who -- after being liberated from a suspiciously marked barrel -- dutifully rides on the king of Kong's back. Somewhere between 1996 and 2010, Diddy got himself a cool jetpack, which comes with a very handy hover-jump. Many of the game's most challenging areas are designed with this ability in mind... which means if you've lost Diddy (take two hits, and it's back to the barrel for him), things tend to get a lot harder. Never impossible, mind you, but it damn sure feels that way sometimes. It gets even worse when you play co-op with a friend, as whoever takes Donkey Kong is effectively handicapping themselves in what amounts to the game's hard mode.

I'll be honest: I Super Guided eight of the game's 62 main levels (die 10 times, and a CPU-controlled stand-in will optionally finish the problem area for you, similar to New SMB Wii). A few amounted to oh-no-I've-lost-Diddy-related challenges, while others were straight-up reflex assaults, in the form of the series' time-honored mine cart rides. But if I take offense to anything, it's the hellish levels that saddle you in an airborne barrel-ship, forcing you to exercise measured button-presses in order to control your elevation and flight angle as nonstop obstacles bombard you... all resulting in one-hit kills. And while DKC Returns features a typically forgiving checkpoint system, it gets pretty stingy at the most inopportune times. Yeah, it's always quite satisfying to polish off a particularly tough level, but boy, does this game make you earn it in some pretty crazy ways that border on mind-numbing frustration.

Basically he says the jumps are hard with donkey kong and losing diddy makes the game very hard.


EDIT:  yeah what great rumbler said.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 19, 2010, 09:27:27 PM
Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 19, 2010, 10:15:05 PM
NPC Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was freaking amazing. Had new levels too if I'm not mistaken. I think DKCR will be pretty good, but I'm gonna miss that combo multiplier.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 19, 2010, 10:33:11 PM
Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

dkc was and remains abominable
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 19, 2010, 10:56:16 PM
what the fuck is that youtube :rofl
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 19, 2010, 11:09:28 PM
what the fuck is that youtube :rofl

Quote
"Gaming in the Clinton Years" is a series of short video game reviews from the latter half of the 90s'. The reviews often contains huge errors concerning the games reviewed, commentary that ranges from cringeworthy to so-bad-it's-good quality and pointless stuff added in to pad out the review (sometimes even the ending of the game). They were narrated by Geroge Wood. The videos became popular after Retsupurae made comedic commentaries over several of the GitCY videos, and the videos became something of a meme.

Did this ever air on TV?

The most common reactions to people when first watching the reviews are "WTF?", "Ha ha, Retsupurae", and "Breast cancer?". Another common reaction is "Did this shit ever air on TV?" And the truth is, yes it did. There are no definite sources on the internet, but several comments on the videos and on various forums says that the reviews were made as segments for a TV show called Flights of Fantasy, and it was broadcast on a public access channel in Maryland, USA. This seems plausible, as a "Flights of Fantasy" logo appears at the end of every video, and the name is even mentioned at the end of one of the videos.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 19, 2010, 11:12:26 PM
This game looks like it will bust your balls open
http://digitalchumps.com/video-gallery/viewvideo/1485/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns-qplatform-panicq-why-you-need-this-game.html

and then eat your unraveled testicle.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 19, 2010, 11:39:15 PM
That quicklook made it look pretty good. Will buy for sub $30
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: tiesto on November 19, 2010, 11:57:14 PM
Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

dkc was and remains abominable

Original DKC sucked, but the music was awesome. 2 was a bit better, at least. And I liked what I've played of Returns (only a few demo levels), control and hit detection are much tighter than the Rare games. The only thing is the level graphics aren't as imaginative as some of the wilder DKC2 levels (like the vine levels or the beehive ones).
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 20, 2010, 12:20:02 AM
That quicklook made it look pretty good. Will buy for sub $30

This is a first party nintendo game.  They don't drop prices, just discontinue it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 20, 2010, 01:02:44 AM
Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

did he just compare The Mask's effects to Jurassic Park?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 20, 2010, 02:45:39 AM
This was even better

[youtube=560,345]h4i6QoWONLQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 20, 2010, 06:48:52 AM
Can't wait for this game. Loved all the SNES DK games.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: pilonv1 on November 20, 2010, 07:26:28 AM
This was even better

[youtube=560,345]h4i6QoWONLQ[/youtube]

:rofl @ the Blanka figure
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: pilonv1 on November 20, 2010, 07:37:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9d5K_euwIo

I cant stop watching these, they need their own thread
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 20, 2010, 08:33:24 AM
That quicklook made it look pretty good. Will buy for sub $30

This is a first party nintendo game.  They don't drop prices, just discontinue it.

I know this
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Positive Touch on November 20, 2010, 10:16:49 AM
guys i noticed this donkey kong discussion doesn't include mention of donkey kong 64
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 20, 2010, 11:40:31 AM
guys i noticed this donkey kong discussion doesn't include mention of donkey kong 64

:lol

Anyways, if Retro is the new Rare, I want a new Jet Force Gemini. Give it to me, Retro.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2010, 11:58:45 AM
I might pick this up.  I bought but never played Metroid because everyone said it sucked, I skipped Kirby because it looked baby, skipped Sonic because duh it's Sonic, skipping Epic Mickey because I have KH and don't need this lame disney stuff, but this looks genuinely fun.  Plus I like Retro even if each Prime game had a bunch of problems.

Also it may sound weird logic, but I don't mind buying 1st/2nd party Wii titles because I'm not saying anything with my money when I do.  I don't buy 3rd party Wii titles because I want them to all bomb so they don't make 3rd party games on Wii, but since 1st/2nd party titles aren't going anywhere else I'm ok with supporting them.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 20, 2010, 12:11:51 PM
Speaking of Metroid, I just booted up my Prime Trilogy and cannot fucking play FPS with nunchuks. I thought it was bad on consoles, but Wii nunchuks for FPS is so fucking awful it makes me want to choke a baby. What the fuck. Not even the OPTION to use the classic controller.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on November 20, 2010, 12:21:51 PM
I might pick this up.  I bought but never played Metroid because everyone said it sucked, I skipped Kirby because it looked baby, skipped Sonic because duh it's Sonic, skipping Epic Mickey because I have KH and don't need this lame disney stuff, but this looks genuinely fun.  Plus I like Retro even if each Prime game had a bunch of problems.

Also it may sound weird logic, but I don't mind buying 1st/2nd party Wii titles because I'm not saying anything with my money when I do.  I don't buy 3rd party Wii titles because I want them to all bomb so they don't make 3rd party games on Wii, but since 1st/2nd party titles aren't going anywhere else I'm ok with supporting them.

I understand where you're coming from.  I haven't bought a Wii third party game all year and the only one I plan on getting is Epic Mickey.  The others I just rented or borrowed, and while I like building a collection, I always think "maybe this will come to the 360/PS3 in the future" and hold off on buying it.  Like, I played a bit of Red Steel 2 and enjoyed it months ago, but I just bought it the other day because it was $5.  Initially I was waiting to see if they'd do a PS3 port for the move.  It's one reason I haven't bought Goldeneye (yet), Sonic Colors, or a bunch of other Wii games.  But I had no problem buying Sin and Punishment 2 at full price.

and I went ahead an ordered DKCR from Amazon since it was $45 plus a $10 credit, which seems better than waiting for it to drop.  It looks pretty fun.

Speaking of Metroid, I just booted up my Prime Trilogy and cannot fucking play FPS with nunchuks. I thought it was bad on consoles, but Wii nunchuks for FPS is so fucking awful it makes me want to choke a baby. What the fuck. Not even the OPTION to use the classic controller.

nintendo doesn't want to acknowledge that it exits

even DKCR doesn't have classic controller support and the only only motion control in that game is a waggle to roll/blow/bang.  The complexity of the action is the same as a button press, but they still don't let you map it to a button press like they should.  Even in NSMB Wii there were those lame segments where you needed to tilt the remote around to move platforms.  Though, apparently you can rig the controller up to play like a normal game through the Dolphin Wii emulator.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 20, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
Speaking of Metroid, I just booted up my Prime Trilogy and cannot fucking play FPS with nunchuks. I thought it was bad on consoles, but Wii nunchuks for FPS is so fucking awful it makes me want to choke a baby. What the fuck. Not even the OPTION to use the classic controller.

First, set the controls to advanced in options. This eliminates the bounding box.  Then, just get accustomed to looking around in an area without enemies. It feels weird for the first hour but it eventually becomes very smooth and second nature. The turning speed will always be kind of slow, but the game is designed around that for that most part. However, Prime 1 and 2 were designed around the lock-on, so make sure when playing those games to set the lock-on/free aim option to off. This makes it when you lock on to a target your reticule is locked and can't go anywhere else. I dabble in Prime 1 on the trilogy and there are a few bosses that almost require this.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 20, 2010, 12:32:40 PM
Looks pretty fun. And generally speaking I'm not a fan of Donkry Kong Country.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: SantaC on November 20, 2010, 02:14:04 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle


It's Retro studios (bungie 2.0), they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 20, 2010, 03:47:32 PM
yea! jungle beat is awesome and it piss me off how's everybody has their eye on this game but nobody gave a shit about jungle beat

I bought the Jungle Beat bongo bundle when it dropped to $10 on clearance.  :teehee
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: bork on November 20, 2010, 04:35:50 PM

I cant stop watching these, they need their own thread

There was one two years ago!  I guess this was before the videos were put on Youtube.  Host George Wood was way, way too obsessed with games' "ending ceremonies."  That's all he seemed to care about.  They would also go and spoil games by showing the full endings, too.   :lol

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=25683.0

This is the best one by far.  Both the numerous references to the at-the-time two year old movie and the general ignorance about fighters just makes for  :lol :lol :lol.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw4YfxlGD_Y[/youtube]

Then there's Chrono Trigger:
[youtube=560,345]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1xtczgwV9c[/youtube]

And in the Goldeneye review, he says that "if you beat the game on the hardest mode you will open up hidden levels for the four player mini-games, which we can't show you because we only have one controller.  And frankly, we don't care about the multiplayer stuff.  Noone buys a videogame specifically for multiplayer options
[youtube=560,345]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5-zAljF4B0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: iconoclast on November 20, 2010, 04:47:43 PM
Alpha 2 was amazing. :bow

Clearly Dan is the best character in the game due to his strong legs.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Dickie Dee on November 20, 2010, 05:02:18 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: bork on November 20, 2010, 05:46:07 PM
Alpha 2 was amazing. :bow

Clearly Dan is the best character in the game due to his strong legs.

They had multiple Street Fighter video game reviews, and there's so few (if any) special moves done in any of them (combos?   :lol).  Just SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP JUMP KICK BISON SLIDE

SSF2 review, where multiplayer is ignored except for them telling you to cheat in 1P by using the 2P to select the same character as the CPU so you won't have to fight them.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLS3qmkIU4[/youtube]

He even says that "special moves are not as vital to success as in the previous games.  M. Bison is the key to success...use him and his 'side kick' move.  Press DOWN AND R simultaneously..."  :rofl
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: bork on November 20, 2010, 05:56:50 PM
One more, because who can forget the comparison everyone wanted!?

Resident Evil: Virtually impossible without a hint book."
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8ht4AZ7sg[/youtube]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: SantaC on November 20, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  ::) Remember how overrated Corruption was.

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: etiolate on November 20, 2010, 07:08:50 PM
dude we don't do that sort of sincere trolling here
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 20, 2010, 08:39:22 PM
One more, because who can forget the comparison everyone wanted!?

Resident Evil: Virtually impossible without a hint book."
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8ht4AZ7sg[/youtube]
:rofl

btw broks, DKC was cool as a kid for awhile, but even then it wasn't hard to realize it was just a meh game with great visuals/music
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2010, 08:42:38 PM
DKC vanilla got boring. DKC2 was great.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 20, 2010, 11:13:06 PM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  ::) Remember how overrated Corruption was.


So I guess Eurogamer [9/10] and Computer & Video Games UK [8.8/10] are just aberrations then?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Diunx on November 20, 2010, 11:17:10 PM
Those reviews are very informative, for example I had no idea that nintendo invented 3d graphics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYfBmIDbtw

Street fighting games :rofl
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on November 21, 2010, 01:05:15 AM
Super Street Fighter 2 
"you can cheat to see all the endings, which are really good."



whoever made those is brilliant.  It has to be aliens that were trying to tap the government's communication back in the 90s, but accidentally connected to a geocities rom site.

StarFox
"you can win fairly easily by cheating"


Demon's Crest

"Easy to beat--or is it"

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: bork on November 21, 2010, 05:55:49 AM
Wow, Flights Of Fantasy really had no clue that some games were made for MULTIPLAYER.  Fighting games, Goldeneye, even NBA JAM all got the same comments.   :lol

DKC was cool as a kid for awhile, but even then it wasn't hard to realize it was just a meh game with great visuals/music

I got bored of DKC pretty quickly as well...like a week after release.  Never felt that the game play had much going for it-- it was clearly popular because of its graphics.

Donkey Kong '94 on the Gameboy was so much better.  That was an amazing game, but nobody cared.  I couldn't get any of my friends to try it.  Instead of making it the Super Gameboy game, it should have been a full-on SNES release.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 21, 2010, 06:04:27 AM
of the positive review i have read,this one seems the most fair
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/19/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/
as opposed to destructoid which described the game as
Donkey Kong Country Returns is a perfect videogame experience, from start to finish.

IT WILL MAKE YOUR BALLS EXPLODE FROM AWESOMENESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Wow, Flights Of Fantasy really had no clue that some games were made for MULTIPLAYER.  Fighting games, Goldeneye, even NBA JAM all got the same comments.   :lol

DKC was cool as a kid for awhile, but even then it wasn't hard to realize it was just a meh game with great visuals/music

I got bored of DKC pretty quickly as well...like a week after release.  Never felt that the game play had much going for it-- it was clearly popular because of its graphics.

Donkey Kong '94 on the Gameboy was so much better.  That was an amazing game, but nobody cared.  I couldn't get any of my friends to try it. 

i played donkey kong country a while back and it was okay... still DK94 is what you should play,i got so pissed when they turned mario vs donkey kong from DK94 semi-sequel to a lemmings clone >:(

DK 94 :bow2
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 21, 2010, 08:28:47 AM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  ::) Remember how overrated Corruption was.


So I guess Eurogamer [9/10] and Computer & Video Games UK [8.8/10] are just aberrations then?

Savaged.  SantaC caught up in yet another failed troll effort.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2010, 01:16:14 AM
this game is really, really good.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2010, 03:18:44 AM
Want
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: SantaC on November 22, 2010, 04:09:28 AM
ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right ::)

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  ::) Remember how overrated Corruption was.


So I guess Eurogamer [9/10] and Computer & Video Games UK [8.8/10] are just aberrations then?

Savaged.  SantaC caught up in yet another failed troll effort.

that's funny since you said i only troll 360 games?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 22, 2010, 07:09:30 AM
Forget Epic Mickey. This is the game worth playing. Played a few levels. Itīs really good.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 22, 2010, 08:14:06 AM
 yarr :pirate
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TripleA on November 22, 2010, 08:48:43 AM
I hear the game gets frustrating, might gamefly it.

Slightly off-topic but does anyone know when Rare will start making real games again?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: iconoclast on November 22, 2010, 09:05:38 AM
If Kinect and their Wii-like games are successful, probably never.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 22, 2010, 10:53:37 AM
They sure did economise on the soundtrack. It's basically the same OST as in the SNES games. Not that I mind.
Just finished the Jungle world. The game shits all over NSMB Wii.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Darunia on November 22, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
Could never get into the other DKC games but this one is incredible so far. Only beat the first two worlds, but if this keeps up... Retro > Rare
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 22, 2010, 06:59:01 PM
In a way I think this game validates Retro Studios. I suspected they might only be 'good enough' for a  'good enough' metroid, and then like 3 heads of the studio ran off to EA. Nevertheless, with the super positive reception this game is getting I have full faith in the studio. Hopefully they get some leverage to launch their own ip now, although I wouldn't mind them taking a whack at something like fzero, if only to expand their genre capabilities further.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
I honestly probably wouldn't mind them taking charge of a Zelda game *shrugs*

this game is just so so fucking good.  I also think it's better than NSMB Wii...and I thought NSMB Wii was insanely good.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 22, 2010, 07:33:49 PM
Nintendo already has a dedicated Zelda team, and theres more to Nintendo than platformers and Zelda, guys.. come on.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2010, 07:55:28 PM
Who cares?  Retro was about to work on a Zelda game before Nintendo changed their mind and gave them Donkey Kong instead.  Let them do what they want.  And I think they'd really like doing a Zelda game.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 22, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Because they're already about to release a new Zelda game that sounds pretty good, it would be redundant for them to do another Zelda when they could be given the chance to reinvigorate another franchise or embark on a new intellectual property.  I was really crestfallen when I found out EAD tokyo was working on another Super Mario Galaxy game, those two years could've been working on something original to diversify the wii portfolio.

'But Emceegramr, who cares? Super Mario Galaxy 2 was so awesome'
Well I didn't much care for Galaxy 2, sir, despite it being good it just didn't resonate with me.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 22, 2010, 09:00:20 PM
You wanna new starfox?
Sin and Punishment 2 for 15 bucks
http://searchresults.pcrichard.com/search?keywords=vg_bgn_Wii
via Bebpo
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 22, 2010, 09:15:34 PM
good god this is horrible
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 22, 2010, 09:17:23 PM
good god this is horrible

If you get over your hatred of Retro and hatred over the DKC games, the game becomes a lot better. :smug
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: etiolate on November 22, 2010, 09:36:20 PM
Anyone try the two player?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2010, 09:48:58 PM
Get retro on Zelda pls
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
good god this is horrible

wow, fucking no.  this opinion is bad and you should feel bad
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 22, 2010, 10:18:15 PM
no, this is a legitimately awful platformer. this makes epic yarn look awesome
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 22, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
Is this better or worse than the original DKC games?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 22, 2010, 10:53:13 PM
i never played 2 or 3, and it is better than the first dkc, which was wretched. this is slightly less than wretched. this is charmless, perfunctory platforming of the most early 16-bit variety
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 22, 2010, 11:01:47 PM
i never played 2 or 3, and it is better than the first dkc, which was wretched. this is slightly less than wretched. this is charmless, perfunctory platforming of the most early 16-bit variety

You're not really stating any specific problems. That would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2010, 11:14:00 PM
Epic Yarn was terrible, I can't believe you're actually trying to argue this game is worse than that.  drinky is usually okay with his weird opinions but this is just fucking wrong, absolutely wrong.  This game controls very well, has a challenge not seen in nintendo platformers since the super nintendo, and has wonderfully designed terrain and courses.  If you come back with a "shaking wiimote sucks" defense I'm going to electrocute myself and all those around me.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 22, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
So I looked up "perfunctory". I don't see how this game is perfunctory as far as platformers go.  There's a huge attention to detail and care paid to the animations and environments. Were you expecting some gimmick?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 22, 2010, 11:30:43 PM
Get retro on Zelda pls

First time in a long time that I strongly agree with Himu. Give Zelda to Retro like fucking yesterday.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2010, 12:21:31 AM
So I looked up "perfunctory". I don't see how this game is perfunctory as far as platformers go.  There's a huge attention to detail and care paid to the animations and environments. Were you expecting some gimmick?

i was expecting actual technique and interesting environment interactivity of the sort of i have come to expect post yoshi's island. i expect the sort of mechanical ingenuity at LEAST of a level seen in kirby's epic yarn or the average pc indie platformer

this is tame, bland hop-and-bop with hateful characters and boring levels
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2010, 12:54:46 AM
it's still better than gt5
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on November 23, 2010, 08:40:53 AM
It's okay... after seeing the O in the very first level hovering above a death gap I knew it was only going to get worse from here. So I went back to Arc Rise Fantasia while I had my Wii on instead. Diddy's jetpack is 5 degrees of useless.

The game doesnt tell you anything either. I had no idea you could ground pound the yellow pods, among other things. At least you can throw away the nunchuk. Waggle is of course, unnecessary and tacked on. Would have been just fine with regular Gamecube pad.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 23, 2010, 11:16:15 AM
This might be the best 2d platformer this gen. It toally annihilates NSMBwii.
Forget shitty games like Red Dead Redemption or Vanquish, this is a true GOTY contender.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2010, 11:38:20 AM
It's okay... after seeing the O in the very first level hovering above a death gap I knew it was only going to get worse from here. So I went back to Arc Rise Fantasia while I had my Wii on instead. Diddy's jetpack is 5 degrees of useless.

The game doesnt tell you anything either. I had no idea you could ground pound the yellow pods, among other things. At least you can throw away the nunchuk. Waggle is of course, unnecessary and tacked on. Would have been just fine with regular Gamecube pad.

uh, the game does tell you.  the first level is entirely a tutorial level.  everytime you come up to something you can interact with, a pop-up image telling you want to do comes up.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 23, 2010, 12:00:04 PM
Yeah, that little pig tells you what to do. I wonder what demi was doing when that little piggy showed up.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2010, 12:04:32 PM
The bigger question is what isn't?

Donkey Kong Country
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Beezy on November 23, 2010, 01:24:07 PM
This might be the best 2d platformer this gen.
Super Meat Boy
Splosion Man
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2010, 01:26:04 PM
Super Meat Boy is zzzz
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Beezy on November 23, 2010, 01:43:21 PM
if you suck maybe
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2010, 02:04:04 PM
This might be the best 2d platformer this gen. It toally annihilates NSMBwii.

Bionic Commando: Rearmed.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
boothisman
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Darunia on November 23, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
The fifth world is amazing from start to finish. So good. Game gets noticeably harder. World 4's a bit too trial and error-ish, but I'm enjoying the game so much as a whole that I'll just let these stages pass. I could never play any of the other DKC games for longer than 2 hours, yet this is addictive as hell. Retro :bow
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2010, 02:38:36 PM
:bow darunia :bow2

where'd you disappear to?!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 23, 2010, 02:43:34 PM
This might be the best 2d platformer this gen.
Super Meat Boy
Splosion Man

Overrated games. Especially Super Meh Boy.

DCKR :bow2
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Darunia on November 23, 2010, 02:46:31 PM
:bow darunia :bow2

where'd you disappear to?!

i was kinda done with games/boards for about a year :)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2010, 02:49:25 PM
You didn't play a game for a year?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 23, 2010, 03:03:04 PM
You didn't play a game for a year?

It's very possible when you have responsibilities.

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2010, 03:04:15 PM
nuh uh
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2010, 03:05:01 PM
I didn't say it was impossible. Just shocked.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 23, 2010, 03:06:18 PM
Seriously though, this game is sick.  I just beat the second world, and the Tidal Wave level...omg
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 23, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
I didn't say it was impossible. Just shocked.

I had a huuuuuuuuge hiatus between majora's mask and  ... viewtiful joe?  So that was 3-4 years without games. Although I might've cheated with an online pokemon simulator.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Rman on November 23, 2010, 03:41:58 PM
This kills the SNES DKC games, but that isn't a huge achievement.

But in all honesty, other than the forced waggle, which I don't get at all, it's pretty fun platforming. 

Retro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rare.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 23, 2010, 03:49:07 PM
Seriously though, this game is sick.  I just beat the second world, and the Tidal Wave level...omg

Yeah that was a great level. Just finished the beach world :bow2

The only thing I don't like (like Rman mentioned) are the motion controls. They really feel tacked on.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Darunia on November 23, 2010, 04:20:50 PM
You didn't play a game for a year?

Very little. Was burned out on them. Then it's best to just stop and see if the itch returns. It did.

Also do not like the motion controls. It's okay for the stomp, but rolling needed a button.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: tiesto on November 24, 2010, 09:33:58 AM
Played through the first world last nite. Game looks amazing graphically (especially the sunset level), level designs are much more clever than Rare's so far. Don't like the motion controls, it seems like you need to shake really hard for them to work. I never use the roll, since it seems every time I try to use it, it doesn't trigger. Other complaint is so far, most of the music seems like remixes of DKC's music... not much in the way of originality. Still so far, it's better than Rare's DKC games and it's much better than Retro's Metroid Prime games.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Beezy on November 24, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
This might be the best 2d platformer this gen.
Super Meat Boy
Splosion Man

Overrated games. Especially Super Meh Boy.

DCKR :bow2
Overrated because they're not on PSN I assume. You can at least properly abbreviate the title of the game that you're praising. :smug
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 24, 2010, 11:23:15 AM
there's a level that has music that sounds like some metroid prime 2 levels.  I thought that was cool.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 24, 2010, 12:07:34 PM
i gave this a spin,personaly after finishing the first world i was coming here with more or less the same mehtastic opinion of tiesto but world 2 gave me a better opinion of the game
spoiler (click to show/hide)
giant octopus level!
[close]

world 3 was worse than 2 but better than 1
i don't think the game is as hard as the various reviews claim,at world 4 i already have stashed around 40 lives and while i do die occasionaly,i don't think barring a single exception there was a single segments where i died more than twice
so yea,it's better than the last nintendo game that got released,tough i guess that's not saying much...

best level i played so far it's this one,in fact this level was awesome,i wish the whole game was like this
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7wdsOhOgtg[/youtube]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i should have said the game sucked just to piss off brandnew :teehee
[close]
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Post by: Raban on November 24, 2010, 02:43:54 PM
That looks awesome, but when he hit the spikes and didn't die = smh.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 24, 2010, 07:10:34 PM
Having Retro do a real Zelda (2D or 3D) is one of the worst ideas ever. I have my issues with Aonuma, but I trust him waaaaay more with Zelda than Retro. None of Nintendo's top-tier games should be sent to other developers. Even if they happen to be within Nintendo.

Now if Retro wants to do Starfox, or Kid Icarus? Who cares.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on November 24, 2010, 09:28:59 PM
I just dont see any diff between this and RAre's games... jut call it DKC4 and be none the wiser
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 25, 2010, 12:27:15 AM
This is more like DKC 5. Jungle Beat was similar enough to be DKC 4, although the combo system was a big differentiator. How many DK land games were there?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: MCD on November 25, 2010, 03:25:07 AM
Too colorful and kiddy, missing the moody theme from RARE.

7/10 Good effort for a copy pasta.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Beezy on November 25, 2010, 06:33:45 AM
Too colorful and kiddy, missing the moody theme from RARE.

7/10 Good effort for a copy pasta.
Junpei worked on this?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Oblivion on November 25, 2010, 11:05:30 PM
Finally played a little bit. Beat the first world only, but game is pretty dang fun so far.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:12:45 PM
Having Retro do a real Zelda (2D or 3D) is one of the worst ideas ever. I have my issues with Aonuma, but I trust him waaaaay more with Zelda than Retro. None of Nintendo's top-tier games should be sent to other developers. Even if they happen to be within Nintendo.

Now if Retro wants to do Starfox, or Kid Icarus? Who cares.

Rare made Metroid awesome with Metroid Prime. Why not?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2010, 11:15:41 PM
Having Retro do a real Zelda (2D or 3D) is one of the worst ideas ever. I have my issues with Aonuma, but I trust him waaaaay more with Zelda than Retro. None of Nintendo's top-tier games should be sent to other developers. Even if they happen to be within Nintendo.

Now if Retro wants to do Starfox, or Kid Icarus? Who cares.

Rare made Metroid awesome with Metroid Prime. Why not?

this is like saying avril lavigne made punk awesome

gtfo
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:17:13 PM
Metroid Prime rocks, though. Great boss fights, great level design, great atmosphere. I don't see how anyone can say they'd be a good match for Metroid but not for Zelda seeing as how Metroid and Zelda are practically the same genre.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 25, 2010, 11:20:24 PM
it's not worth arguing about metroid prime here, it's just a cesspool of gen X butthurtness with their precious metwoid being taken into a new (aka better) direction  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:32:52 PM
but when metroid prime came out there was only one good metroid and that was super.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2010, 11:33:58 PM
boss fights. man, i remember an era when boss fights weren't exercises in endless visor flipping
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:35:18 PM
i didn't really mind.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:35:57 PM
[youtube=560,345]8wtEV5qUGkE[/youtube]

:rock
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Dickie Dee on November 25, 2010, 11:37:11 PM
yup, Metroid Prime was (don forum 'tard hat) the best game of the gen. Haters keep looking foolisher (forum 'tard hat relinquished). Doesn't mean it isn't true though.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2010, 11:42:06 PM
i didn't really mind.

you also purport to enjoy shenmue
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2010, 11:43:18 PM
a console first-person shooter without dual analog controls can never be considered good in any year after 2000
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:44:12 PM
I never considered it a first person shooter so I never really cared.

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Dickie Dee on November 25, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
i didn't really mind.

you also purport to enjoy shenmue

your words slice like a lancet, Mr. Crow
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Dickie Dee on November 25, 2010, 11:46:10 PM
I never considered it a first person shooter so I never really cared.



yup, back on team Himu...it really was a FPA

various dealwithitgifs
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2010, 11:47:12 PM
i didn't really mind.

you also purport to enjoy shenmue

you stab me in the heart
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 25, 2010, 11:52:18 PM
a console first-person shooter without dual analog controls can never be considered good in any year after 2000

And yet there is a version of Metroid Prime that outclasses dual analog controls. Does that automatically make it alright?  Who cares anyway, Metroid Prime is really a 3d zelda game and used a similar lock on system.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2010, 12:05:05 AM
a console first-person shooter without dual analog controls can never be considered good in any year after 2000

and anyone who can't adapt to the stupidly easy controls of metroid prime deserve more lambasting than the the ones who enjoy one of the best games in the last decade.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
just sayin', it coulda been better with intuitive, intelligent controls

a lot better :tophat
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 26, 2010, 12:10:54 AM
just sayin', it coulda been better with intuitive, intelligent controls

a lot better :tophat

(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/101/1012308/un-boxing-metroid-prime-trilogy-20090807050657619_640w.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2010, 12:11:35 AM
loved all the missing effects in those versions

y'know, it's easy to tell who didn't own a ps2 last gen: they praise metroid prime :smug
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Damian79 on November 26, 2010, 12:20:34 AM
loved all the missing effects in those versions

y'know, it's easy to tell who didn't own a ps2 last gen: they praise metroid prime :smug

To be fair dual analog <<<<<<<<<<<<<< KB & m.  Fact.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 26, 2010, 12:20:42 AM
loved all the missing effects in those versions

y'know, it's easy to tell who didn't own a ps2 last gen: they praise metroid prime :smug

The only missing effects were Samus's idle animations (I think I'm the only one who bothered to test this), rippling water, and some particle effects from charging the cannon.  Which is typical nerd nitpicking bullshit and I'm pretty sure you don't like it either.

Got a ps2 during the great gamecube drought of 04-06.  Disagaea was stupid grindy bullshit, gta was meandering and directionless with a terrible sense of humor, capcom fighting games are convoluted for no good reason, Ico was cool, Splinter Cell was trial and error and not fun, Katamari Damacy was the bees knees, every single square enix game sucked, Kingdom Hearts the most, Okami is bad and anyone who recommends it is bad. I have no problem putting Metroid Prime above a sizable portion of the ps2 library.

edit: Burnout was fun, I think those stopped coming out for the cube after 2.  Virtua Fighter 4 was blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. Maybe there was a great fighter in there, I'll never know.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 26, 2010, 12:23:10 AM
loved all the missing effects in those versions

y'know, it's easy to tell who didn't own a ps2 last gen: they praise metroid prime :smug

I had a PS2 before the Gamecube came out and I still thought Metroid Prime was one of the best games of that generation.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 26, 2010, 12:42:54 AM
loved all the missing effects in those versions

y'know, it's easy to tell who didn't own a ps2 last gen: they praise metroid prime :smug

To be fair dual analog <<<<<<<<<<<<<< KB & m.  Fact.

:bow
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Barry Egan on November 26, 2010, 12:54:29 AM
This game is blander than tonights turkey.  Does every retro character have to control like they have sandbags tied to their legs?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2010, 02:41:56 AM
to be fair: it's pretty true to the snes counter parts in that regard!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 26, 2010, 04:13:55 AM
loved all the missing effects in those versions

y'know, it's easy to tell who didn't own a ps2 last gen: they praise metroid prime :smug

this is truth and if you like meh-troid prime you are a bad person
oh by the way
spoiler (click to show/hide)
fucking giant bat! mine kart boss fight! this game kicks the ass of NSMB so hard that if it bombs it's definitive proof that nobody gives a shit to actual games anymore
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Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
to be fair: it's pretty true to the snes counter parts in that regard!

this is why i always played as diddy. donkey is slow and shitty.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 26, 2010, 02:01:46 PM
How is the wii mote used for this? I don't see any waggle in the videos
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on November 26, 2010, 02:08:32 PM
You shake to pound the ground, or roll. You dont point at stuff afaik.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Third on November 26, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
This game definitely belongs in my top 10 best games of 2010. All levels so far have been really good.
Up to world 6 now.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 26, 2010, 07:20:32 PM
Got a ps2 during the great gamecube drought of 04-06.  Disagaea was stupid grindy bullshit, gta was meandering and directionless with a terrible sense of humor, capcom fighting games are convoluted for no good reason, Ico was cool, Splinter Cell was trial and error and not fun, Katamari Damacy was the bees knees, every single square enix game sucked, Kingdom Hearts the most, Okami is bad and anyone who recommends it is bad. I have no problem putting Metroid Prime above a sizable portion of the ps2 library.

 :stfu

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:stfu
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 26, 2010, 08:07:29 PM
Got a ps2 during the great gamecube drought of 04-06.  Disagaea was stupid grindy bullshit, gta was meandering and directionless with a terrible sense of humor, capcom fighting games are convoluted for no good reason, Ico was cool, Splinter Cell was trial and error and not fun, Katamari Damacy was the bees knees, every single square enix game sucked, Kingdom Hearts the most, Okami is bad and anyone who recommends it is bad. I have no problem putting Metroid Prime above a sizable portion of the ps2 library.

 :stfu

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:stfu
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no u
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 26, 2010, 09:31:52 PM
:bow SILICON GRAPHICS :bow2

I actually bought a half-dozen SGI workstations at a garage sale for $2 apiece.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 26, 2010, 10:28:25 PM
Don't get me wrong, Metroid Prime is awesome, but compared to the highs of the PS2 and Xbox, I've already forgotten the game just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 26, 2010, 11:22:57 PM
Highs of the og xbox? ...  ???
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 26, 2010, 11:29:21 PM
Highs of the og xbox? ...  ???

::)
Not playing list wars with you.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: iconoclast on November 26, 2010, 11:39:05 PM
Steel Battalion > the entire GC library combined

minus F-Zero GX
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: SantaC on November 27, 2010, 01:01:45 AM
this has retro's name on it, so everyone are ass kissing the game. The game itself is pretty good, but it sure doesn't make you go apeshit like the whole neogaf userbase do. The waggle controls are horrible, i have no idea why it gets a pass because of this? Not only are there waggle controls, but you have to do 3 different waggle motions also  :yuck

At last, it is inexcusable that there is no classic controller support. Rare did it better 17 years ago.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Rman on November 27, 2010, 01:16:59 AM
Have you played DKC1 recently?  It ages terribly.  Returns is a decent platformer, waggle nonsense aside, but I don't how anyone can prefer DKC1/2/3 over this.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: etiolate on November 27, 2010, 03:06:11 AM
criticizing prime bosses  :lol
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: MCD on November 27, 2010, 05:12:16 AM
I just hate the lame levels and music.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 27, 2010, 06:13:04 AM
this is not lame (skip to 1 minute mark)

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVDQUtLj6Xs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Darunia on November 27, 2010, 06:36:19 AM
giant bat is awesome indeed. this is one of my favorite levels:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGop52nq1rM[/youtube]

forest (world 5) is incredible throughout. same can be said for the factory:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYxSsRMB_8[/youtube]

Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 27, 2010, 06:43:54 AM
Those levels look cool.

I've seen more variety and better platforming in those three videos than the snes DKCs combined.

Retro redeemed.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: MCD on November 27, 2010, 07:19:38 AM
[youtube=560,345]AMZ113TM8Dg[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]aJ3wMiPV7DM[/youtube]

Just look at how beatiful, atmospheric and sophistacated this is to the messy, colorful bag of motion garbage.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: SantaC on November 27, 2010, 07:49:38 AM
Have you played DKC1 recently?  It ages terribly.  Returns is a decent platformer, waggle nonsense aside, but I don't how anyone can prefer DKC1/2/3 over this.

that's the point, it was made 17 years ago! It was awesome back then, but todays standards i expect more out of DKCR. And the controls sucks. Why do they need the need to have waggle in a platformer?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 27, 2010, 09:23:55 AM
Highs of the og xbox? ...  ???

::)
Not playing list wars with you.

Of course not, you CAN'T, its the xbox.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on November 27, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
Have you played DKC1 recently?  It ages terribly.  Returns is a decent platformer, waggle nonsense aside, but I don't how anyone can prefer DKC1/2/3 over this.

I dont know how anyone can prefer this over DKC. They are the same games.

You go left, to right, and you bip and bop enemies.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 27, 2010, 11:52:12 AM
because this game has SPIDERS,SPIDERS EVERYWHERE

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_P4WUvlu8c[/youtube]

oh also for whoever was complaining that donkey kong is able to take 2 hits,apparently after finishing the game you unlock a mode where donkey kong has only 1 hearts,there are no checkpoints and there is no diddy so there
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 27, 2010, 01:45:18 PM
Have you played DKC1 recently?  It ages terribly.  Returns is a decent platformer, waggle nonsense aside, but I don't how anyone can prefer DKC1/2/3 over this.

I dont know how anyone can prefer this over DKC. They are the same games.

You go left, to right, and you bip and bop enemies.

sounds like every platformer ever
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on November 27, 2010, 01:47:38 PM
Disagree.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on November 28, 2010, 09:22:27 AM
finished the game,not gonna bother with puzzle piece's,time trial or that annoying "reset everytime you lose diddy" temple

as i said,it's a quite good attempt at a 128-bit 2D platformer but my wii GOTY remains monster hunter 3
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Raban on November 28, 2010, 11:43:37 AM
Have you played DKC1 recently?  It ages terribly.  Returns is a decent platformer, waggle nonsense aside, but I don't how anyone can prefer DKC1/2/3 over this.

I dont know how anyone can prefer this over DKC. They are the same games.

You go left, to right, and you bip and bop enemies.

sounds like every platformer ever

You should be slapped for saying this.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on December 04, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
Only played the first two levels, but this isn't bad! better than the Rare games already.  It still has its problems.

The controls and game in general feel sloppy, and that's without talking about the waggle moves.  It just doesn't feel as tight and responsive as a platformer should.  The waggle moves are on a scale of awfulness.  I actually liked the waggle jump in NSMB Wii, but having it for roll (and other moves) is a bad idea.  The roll sometimes just straight up doesn't work for me, and even when it does, it never feels natural like it did in NSMB.  Blowing is the worst and is more of a problem with how much shit the game expects you to collect.  I don't want to stop every second because I need to check to see if a flower has a coin or some shit I'd need.  I don't get why they even need blowing when you have smacking, like Donkey Kong's eight foot radius monster hands can't create enough wind power to disturb some peddles.

Oh, and the nunchuck controls messed up.  The only way waggle registers from the remote is if you waggle straight down; I played the Galaxy games doing a side waggle because it felt right.  When you need to smack the ground, the game requires you to do with both the nunchuck and remote.  Why isn't there a classic control option? at least in NSMB Wii there were stages that needed you to tilt platforms. 

And the game looks pretty nice.  Obviously the wii is low res decade old hardware, but I can see this game looking pretty nice through dolphin or something.

also, the cart stages and rocket stages suck.  Otherwise, it seems pretty alright.  I'll try kirby next.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on December 04, 2010, 03:35:12 PM
also, the cart stages and rocket stages suck.  Otherwise, it seems pretty alright.  I'll try kirby next.

bububububububububu that's like the best part of the game :'(
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on December 04, 2010, 09:44:30 PM
stages based around barrels suck too, and those aren't even cheap flash game mechanics! (they could be)

and I messed around with this on dolphin and mapping waggle to a single button makes the game considerably better.  Nintendo is definitely trying to sabotage motion gaming by showing how bad it can be.  It's a shame that the game doesn't run at perfect speed for me, which matters even though it does look much, much better.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: SantaC on December 06, 2010, 08:08:08 AM
stages based around barrels suck too, and those aren't even cheap flash game mechanics! (they could be)

and I messed around with this on dolphin and mapping waggle to a single button makes the game considerably better.  Nintendo is definitely trying to sabotage motion gaming by showing how bad it can be.  It's a shame that the game doesn't run at perfect speed for me, which matters even though it does look much, much better.

the game plays much better on a 360 controller than a wiimote, talk about fail...
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 18, 2010, 10:11:21 PM
I really shouldn't have bought this yet, but I was buying some mundane shit like a cell phone charger and the game was just staring at me promising there was more to life than replacing shit the dog chewed up.  Christmas is going to be on a budget.

Ahem

I really really like this game. Level design is exceptional.  Tidal Terror in particular has a nice psychological aspect to it where you want to risk your life to get collectibles that are going to get washed away any second.  Visual density with astounding attention to detail is the norm as far as the art is concerned.  I don't understand how people are having problems with the motion controls, they're perfectly sensitive and match your actions. If anything was problematic for me, sometimes I forget to stop moving before I attempt to ground pound, which does a roll.  Blowing air with waggle doesn't make sense though.  I'm also having a similar problem with Diddy's jetpack messing up my high bounce timing, but its not a huge deal. This game is better than any game in the original dkc trilogy and is a great game in its own right.  I wasn't sure what to think of Retro for the longest.  They've proven with this game that they can go beyond Metroid and its conventions.  It seems they can take whatever you throw at them for inspiration and return it better harder faster stronger smarter.

Bravo.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: tiesto on December 19, 2010, 12:25:21 AM
The stages with the rocket barrel are horrible, but there's a lot of clever design to be had... that is, if you don't mind muscle-memory. Lots of this game requires memorization, especially if you're aiming to get the KONG letters or puzzle pieces. Just beat every stage in the game, including the K levels, and got all the puzzle pieces. Just gotta do the final battle and the extra stage, and then I'm done. Not planning on going for mirror mode or the speedruns.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 19, 2010, 08:34:56 AM
I'm only at world 3, but there's nothing I've encountered so far that would be classified as muscle memory or trial and error.  There was this time in the first minecart level that I didn't realize the spiky thorn ceiling was on the same plane of play of me, but thats about it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on December 19, 2010, 09:24:45 AM
yea i don't get people talking about muscle-memory and trial & error.... everytime i die in a rocket barrel or minecart stage it never feel like it was because i didn't know what was ahead but it was because i pushed too much/too little or jumped too high/not high enough
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: tiesto on December 19, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
I'm only at world 3, but there's nothing I've encountered so far that would be classified as muscle memory or trial and error.  There was this time in the first minecart level that I didn't realize the spiky thorn ceiling was on the same plane of play of me, but thats about it.

Wait til some of the K stages, part of level 4, and a few later levels :P
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 21, 2010, 12:46:59 PM
I'm only at world 3, but there's nothing I've encountered so far that would be classified as muscle memory or trial and error.  There was this time in the first minecart level that I didn't realize the spiky thorn ceiling was on the same plane of play of me, but thats about it.

Wait til some of the K stages, part of level 4, and a few later levels :P

Still disagree, the only times I felt like there was trial and error was when you're introduced to a new type of crumbling platform.  It's pretty rare and usually on the lookout for it.  Mine cart levels and rocket barrel levels are all about reflexes, and I think thats what people are misattributing to trial and error.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 23, 2013, 08:51:42 AM
Bumping this.

Amazon has shipped the 3DS version to me and I should get it tomorrow.  Can't wait to crack into it :hyper
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on May 23, 2013, 09:53:55 AM
urgh this thread is old

anyway donkey kong country returns was basicaly the last good wii game,you nicca better get this on 3ds! :jawalrus
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Damian79 on May 23, 2013, 10:24:49 AM
3ds version is 30 fps :(
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 25, 2013, 08:40:15 AM
Some initial impressions.  I never played the Wii version.

- A few levels in and this already blows away the Rare games
- This game tries its best to be a DKC game and succeeds there
- In the Rare tradition, there's all kinds of various shit to collect in each level.  Not sure if I'm going to bother with that or not.

It's a very solid platformer.  Looking forward to spending some time on this game this weekend.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on May 25, 2013, 02:13:22 PM
I picked it up, but I kind of dont want to touch it until I finish Soul Hackers. I played maybe 1 level of the Wii version when I ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED it
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 25, 2013, 02:15:25 PM
I'll get this on my next paycheck...I fucking loved the Wii version but I think this might be better fit as a handheld game, idk.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Trent Dole on May 25, 2013, 03:45:52 PM
Demi pirating last gen games which are sold at current gen prices is not a crime. :teehee
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 25, 2013, 05:35:17 PM
I picked it up, but I kind of dont want to touch it until I finish Soul Hackers. I played maybe 1 level of the Wii version when I ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED it

2010 demi disgusts me.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: mjemirzian on May 25, 2013, 06:15:40 PM
Great platformer, wish it was 60 fps but it's nice to finally play it on traditional controls.

I know it's all doom n gloom in the Xbox thread but these days there are way too many great games and too little time for me. Every other day there's something that sounds cool.. like those recent Mortal Kombat and Joe Danger PC ports announced.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: bluemax on May 27, 2013, 06:36:38 PM
I picked it up and have already played it more than the Wii version. Not having to waggle to roll already makes this the superior version.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 29, 2013, 08:47:57 AM
I'm not going to lie, this game is kicking my ass right now.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: magus on May 29, 2013, 09:29:06 AM
I'm not going to lie, this game is kicking my ass right now.

are you doing the temples level? those are awesome
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 29, 2013, 11:11:26 AM
game is one of the tougher Nintendo games in years.  those temple levels, and the minecart levels :hyper
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 29, 2013, 12:29:07 PM
is this game ACTUALLY good or is it being graded on the Nintendo Curve?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: cool breeze on May 29, 2013, 12:42:52 PM
Wii version is legit great, and all that's different in the 3DS version is the frame rate and a new 'easy' mode, plus you don't need to waggle.  The few mine cart and rocket levels (reminiscent of that old helicopter in a cave flash game) suck.  It's worth dealing with that stuff for the main platforming stages.  Don't let the 'Donkey Kong Country' name fool you--this actually has creative level design, variety, and challenging platforming.

fwiw, I hated the Donkey Kong Country SNES games.  But I don't think Returns is better than Jungle Beat.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on May 29, 2013, 12:48:39 PM
is this game ACTUALLY good or is it being graded on the Nintendo Curve?

I vote ACTUALLY good

Your other option is NSMB2
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 29, 2013, 01:28:29 PM
I think its actually very good.  In fact I liked it more than NSMB Wii, which was a great platformer with dumb waggle thrown in.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 29, 2013, 01:51:48 PM
interesting. yeah, I hate DKC1-3 on SNES and consider them some of the most overrated platformers of all time. So that's definitely biasing me against it. Glad to hear you hate them too.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 29, 2013, 01:59:53 PM
Other than some similar concepts and ideas from the first three (mine cart levels, instant death chase-levels) and remixed soundtracks, DCKR isn't much like the original DKC.  They play very differently.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: bluemax on May 29, 2013, 06:10:58 PM
Yeah the physics and health systems are a lot different in DKCR vs the SNES games. DKCR is also a lot more brutal in how often it offers DK barrels.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: mjemirzian on May 31, 2013, 02:58:04 AM
Really enjoying it so far. A few minor complaints but overall a really solid platformer. Not trying to grab every KONG letter which I suppose is why it doesn't feel very difficult so far.. up to world 4.

Not sure how someone could dislike the original DKC games but like this one. They all seem pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: mjemirzian on June 03, 2013, 05:38:11 AM
Made it to world 4 boss. I think I need a magnifying glass for the pickaxes the boss throws at you. Sometimes the camera zooms out so far you can barely see what's going on.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: demi on June 03, 2013, 08:43:51 AM
I'm going to be the outlier and say that I may prefer the original DKC trilogy.

I'm only trying to collect the KONG since that's all that's required to unlock the bonus levels. Plus I keep fucking missing one puzzle piece each level. All you get are stupid concept arts, so I don't give a fuck.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 04, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
Fuck the last boss of this game