Wait, don't these backroom deals have to happen in order to get shit done?
Today: "ratings" of foreign politiciansTuesday and Sunday should be 'good'. It's probaby the countries that everybody cares about the most right now.
Tuesday: North/South Korea, Guantanamo
Wednesday: Pakistan, anti-piracy missions in Djibouti
Thursday: Relationship US-Canada
Friday: corruption in Afghanistan
Saturday: Yemen
Sunday: China
I dunno, I kinda like the transparency. Everything I'm reading so far doesn't sound so far fetched anyway.
It's better the public knows so they can freak out and/or decide that they are more qualified to make decisions.Accountability.
Monday, 15 June 2009, 13:08
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ASHGABAT 000757
SIPDIS
STATE FOR NEA/IR AND SCA/CEN
EO 12958 DECL: 06/15/2019
TAGS IR, TX, PGOV, PREL, PHUM
SUBJECT: IRAN POST-ELECTION: [Source removed] CALLS
RESULTS A "COUP D'ETAT;" SAYS INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY SHOULD DEMAND A RECOUNT
ASHGABAT 00000757 001.2 OF 002
Classfied By: Charge Richard Miles, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) In a conversation today with Iran Watcher, a [Source removed] in Ashgabat labeled the announcement of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's victory in Friday's presidential election a "coup d'etat," and called Iran's incumbent President "another Pinochet." [Name removed] said that based on calculations from Mousavi's campaign observers who were present at polling stations around the country and who witnessed the vote counts, Mousavi received approximately 26 million (or 61%) of the 42 million votes cast in Friday's election, followed by Mehdi Karroubi (10-12 million). According to his sources, Ahmadinejad received "a maximum of 4-5 million votes," with the remainder going to Mohsen Rezai. He said that more than anything else, the huge turnout of voters on Friday was a reflection of the Iranian electorate's overwhelming "anti-Ahmadinejad" sentiments.
PRECINCT RESULTS OBSCURED
2. (C) [Name removed] said that in a clear departure from established electoral rules and practice in Iran, including the procedures followed in the 2005 presidential election and last year's legislative elections, the authorities embargoed the results from individual precincts and announced instead that they must be conveyed directly to the central election authorities, who would announce the overall results after all the votes were counted. The Iranian authorities knew, he said, that attempts to falsify individual precinct counts could be countered by observers from the Mousavi and the other campaigns, so in order to engineer a "lopsided" Ahmadinejad victory, they had no choice but to conceal the precinct results. In his words, "People know who they voted for and the observers know who won in each precinct."
ARAB REACTION: A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT
3. (C) [Name removed] said that Iranians are puzzled by the muted reaction thus far of the U.S. and EU governments, as well as "very disappointed" by the number of Arab rulers who have sent messages to Ahmadinejad congratulating him on his "victory." He said that the international community should acknowledge the illegitimacy of the election and demand that the Iranian authorities release and account for the results from each precinct. He said the IRGC (Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps) was behind the "coup." Even Supreme Leader Khamenei, he said, to whom the IRGC owes allegiance, is "not totally in control" of the IRGC. Citing the IRGC's warnings against a "velvet revolution" in the days leading up to the election, it would appear that the IRGC has taken on "a life of its own."
Tuesday: North/South Korea
WikiLeaks says that, contrary to the state department's fears, it also initially intends to post only limited cable extracts, and to redact identities.
this is why we must reinstate operation blackbriar
Those comments are awesome. 'Act of War'
The incoming chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee says WikiLeaks should be officially designated as a terrorist organization.
Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), the panel's next head, asked the Obama administration today to "determine whether WikiLeaks could be designated a foreign terrorist organization," putting the group in the same company as Al Qaeda and Aum Shinrikyo, the Japanese cult that released deadly sarin gas on the Tokyo subway.
"WikiLeaks appears to meet the legal criteria" of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, King wrote in a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reviewed by CNET. He added: "WikiLeaks presents a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States."
Those comments are awesome. 'Act of War'
Very shocked he hasn't died of some accident by now.
Not really, he is too well known now :)
how could the us let this happen, I mean how did this shit get leaked?
how could the us let this happen, I mean how did this shit get leaked?I pvt. in Iraq with access to the servers (there's tens of thousands of people that do - this isn't highest level security stuff) repeatedly went in with a CDRW filled with Lady Gaga songs and while pretending to humm and lip sync overwrote the cd with the files and took them out with him.
Assange seems to be a total douche. Wikileaks =/= Assange.It's hard to seperate them.
I'm probably most surprised that a foreign head of state making entreaties to the United States to bomb another country is simply classified "secret"
I'm probably most surprised that a foreign head of state making entreaties to the United States to bomb another country is simply classified "secret"
Sarah Palin on WikiLeaks. Compares (http://"http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/serious-questions-about-the-obama-administrations-incompetence-in-the-wikileaks-/465212788434") Assange to editor of Al Qaeda newletter.
Serious Questions about the Obama Administration's Incompetence in the Wikileaks Fiasco
by Sarah Palin on Monday, November 29, 2010 at 12:17pm
We all applaud the successful thwarting of the Christmas-Tree Bomber and hope our government continues to do all it can to keep us safe. However, the latest round of publications of leaked classified U.S. documents through the shady organization called Wikileaks raises serious questions about the Obama administration’s incompetent handling of this whole fiasco.
First and foremost, what steps were taken to stop Wikileaks director Julian Assange from distributing this highly sensitive classified material especially after he had already published material not once but twice in the previous months? Assange is not a “journalist,” any more than the “editor” of al Qaeda’s new English-language magazine Inspire is a “journalist.” He is an anti-American operative with blood on his hands. His past posting of classified documents revealed the identity of more than 100 Afghan sources to the Taliban. Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders?
What if any diplomatic pressure was brought to bear on NATO, EU, and other allies to disrupt Wikileaks’ technical infrastructure? Did we use all the cyber tools at our disposal to permanently dismantle Wikileaks? Were individuals working for Wikileaks on these document leaks investigated? Shouldn’t they at least have had their financial assets frozen just as we do to individuals who provide material support for terrorist organizations?
Most importantly, serious questions must also be asked of the U.S. intelligence system. How was it possible that a 22-year-old Private First Class could get unrestricted access to so much highly sensitive information? And how was it possible that he could copy and distribute these files without anyone noticing that security was compromised?
The White House has now issued orders to federal departments and agencies asking them to take immediate steps to ensure that no more leaks like this happen again. It’s of course important that we do all we can to prevent similar massive document leaks in the future. But why did the White House not publish these orders after the first leak back in July? What explains this strange lack of urgency on their part?
We are at war. American soldiers are in Afghanistan fighting to protect our freedoms. They are serious about keeping America safe. It would be great if they could count on their government being equally serious about that vital task.
???Most.
The cables include quotes from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia saying all kinds of things to US officials, including bombing Iran.
I hate the word Wiki. I know what it means. Wiki is a website where anybody can add to it, WikiLeaks, Wikipedia, Wiki, it does not sound like a manly word. Wiki. I think of candles. Wiki. Wiki. And then you look at this waif, Julian Assange, WikiLeaks, and it just all kinda goes together, just does.:lol
10.44pm: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has a long interview with Forbes – and warns that the next target will be a major US bank. Here's Andy Greenberg of Forbes::omg
Early next year, Julian Assange says, a major American bank will suddenly find itself turned inside out. Tens of thousands of its internal documents will be exposed on Wikileaks.org with no polite requests for executives’ response or other forewarnings. The data dump will lay bare the finance firm’s secrets on the Web for every customer, every competitor, every regulator to examine and pass judgment on.
[...]
He compares what he is ready to unleash to the damning e-mails that poured out of the Enron trial: a comprehensive vivisection of corporate bad behavior. “You could call it the ecosystem of corruption,” he says, refusing to characterize the coming release in more detail. “But it’s also all the regular decision making that turns a blind eye to and supports unethical practices: the oversight that’s not done, the priorities of executives, how they think they’re fulfilling their own self-interest.”
[...]
Does Assange have unpublished, damaging documents on pharmaceutical companies? Yes, he says. Finance? Yes, many more than the single bank scandal we’ve been discussing. Energy? Plenty, on everything from BP to an Albanian oil firm that he says attempted to sabotage its competitors’ wells. Like informational IEDs, these damaging revelations can be detonated at will.
Quote from: http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/11/29/wikileaks-julian-assange-wants-to-spill-your-corporate-secrets/Early next year, Julian Assange says, a major American bank will suddenly find itself turned inside out. Tens of thousands of its internal documents will be exposed on Wikileaks.org with no polite requests for executives’ response or other forewarnings. The data dump will lay bare the finance firm’s secrets on the Web for every customer, every competitor, every regulator to examine and pass judgment on.
[...]
He compares what he is ready to unleash to the damning e-mails that poured out of the Enron trial: a comprehensive vivisection of corporate bad behavior. “You could call it the ecosystem of corruption,” he says, refusing to characterize the coming release in more detail. “But it’s also all the regular decision making that turns a blind eye to and supports unethical practices: the oversight that’s not done, the priorities of executives, how they think they’re fulfilling their own self-interest.”
[...]
Does Assange have unpublished, damaging documents on pharmaceutical companies? Yes, he says. Finance? Yes, many more than the single bank scandal we’ve been discussing. Energy? Plenty, on everything from BP to an Albanian oil firm that he says attempted to sabotage its competitors’ wells. Like informational IEDs, these damaging revelations can be detonated at will.
First time every using this,but... :D
But perhaps the most extraordinary element of the WikiLeaks breach is how the data was smuggled out of a U.S. army base on CDs - and finally downloaded onto a memory stick.
The prime suspect is U.S. soldier Bradley Manning, a ‘hot-headed loner’ who grew up in Britain and is currently in solitary confinement awaiting trial over the WikiLeaks disclosures.
By the 23-year-old's own account, it appears to have been staggeringly easy for him to make off with reams of highly classified data.
The downloads were carried out while Manning was working at the U.S. 10th Mountain Division in Iraq.
'I would come in with music on a CD-RW labelled with something like Lady Gaga... erase the music... then write a compressed split file,' he wrote in an online chat.
'No one suspected a thing. (I) listened and lip-synched to Lady Gaga's Telephone while "exfiltrating" possibly the largest data spillage in America history.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-china-reunified-koreaI won't get into the conspiracy theories, but it is interesting that the major news from this has all been favorable to US foreign policy initiatives.
:smug
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-china-reunified-korea
:smug
PERHAPS THE SINGLE DOMINANT ASPECT OF THE PERSIAN
PSYCHE IS AN OVERRIDING EGOISM. ITS ANTECEDENTS LIE
IN THE LONG IRANIAN HISTORY OF INSTABILITY AND INSECURITY
WHICH PUT A PREMIUM ON SELF-PRESERVATION. THE PRACTICAL
EFFECT OF IT IS AN ALMOST TOTAL PERSIAN PREOCCUPATION
WITH SELF AND LEAVES LITTLE ROOM FOR UNDERSTANDING POINTS
OF VIEW OTHER THAN ONE'S OWN.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-china-reunified-korea
:smug
China might be amenable to reunification. I'm not so sure the South would be though. I have to think assimilating North Korea would send South Korea's economy into the shitter.
in other words my scope of view and interest is far wider than yours, gotcha, buddy. sorry if i dont just want to re read all the shit every newspaper in the country is parroting about documents related to current events, SO SORRY, indeedI already read the quote, and I know that it was said during the first months of the Iranian revolution by a diplomat named Bruce Laingen who was held during the hostage crisis. Way ahead of you.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-china-reunified-korea
:smug
China might be amenable to reunification. I'm not so sure the South would be though. I have to think assimilating North Korea would send South Korea's economy into the shitter.
In theory, wikileaks helps keep governments a bit more honest. In practice, it's just gonna make them more secretive than ever. The most interesting thing about it is learning just how inept security is. All those spy flicks lied to me! You clearly don't need to be Jason Bourne to get your hands on the craziest shit imaginable.
In theory, wikileaks helps keep governments a bit more honest. In practice, it's just gonna make them more secretive than ever. The most interesting thing about it is learning just how inept security is. All those spy flicks lied to me! You clearly don't need to be Jason Bourne to get your hands on the craziest shit imaginable.
None of this is the craziest shit imaginable, by any means - it's pretty mid-level stuff
What do you guys think will happen to Pfc. Bradley Manning?
Also, i want to go on the record as stating that most of the right wing response to all of this has been pretty sickening. As if this is Obama's fault or something. They need to shut up.
What do you guys think will happen to Pfc. Bradley Manning?
Also, i want to go on the record as stating that most of the right wing response to all of this has been pretty sickening. As if this is Obama's fault or something. They need to shut up.
Can we talk about any positive outcomes that might come out of this?
Iran and N. Korea working together; Iran funding terrorism in Israel; These are all things that my liberals friends, 2 days ago, would have claimed were not happening.
I learned back in 2003 that if you don't want to bomb a country, you're apparently a die-hard supporter of its regime. Which would explain why I've got that big Khamenei poster and all those Kim Jong-il bobbleheads.
Well, you guys sure shat this thread up. No wonder nobody posts here anymore. :lol???
In theory, wikileaks helps keep governments a bit more honest. In practice, it's just gonna make them more secretive than ever. The most interesting thing about it is learning just how inept security is. All those spy flicks lied to me! You clearly don't need to be Jason Bourne to get your hands on the craziest shit imaginable.
None of this is the craziest shit imaginable, by any means - it's pretty mid-level stuff
Well the point Macamint was trying to make was that everything here is not classified at the top levels.In theory, wikileaks helps keep governments a bit more honest. In practice, it's just gonna make them more secretive than ever. The most interesting thing about it is learning just how inept security is. All those spy flicks lied to me! You clearly don't need to be Jason Bourne to get your hands on the craziest shit imaginable.
None of this is the craziest shit imaginable, by any means - it's pretty mid-level stuff
Oh right - all that stuff that's on YOUR HDD is the crazy shit. ::)
Well, you guys sure shat this thread up. No wonder nobody posts here anymore. :lol???
Apparently Bill O'Reilly said Assange should be executed :usacry
Meh, call me when the documents detailing the cover up of the vampire community living in the south pole leak.
Well the point Macamint was trying to make was that everything here is not classified at the top levels.In theory, wikileaks helps keep governments a bit more honest. In practice, it's just gonna make them more secretive than ever. The most interesting thing about it is learning just how inept security is. All those spy flicks lied to me! You clearly don't need to be Jason Bourne to get your hands on the craziest shit imaginable.
None of this is the craziest shit imaginable, by any means - it's pretty mid-level stuff
Oh right - all that stuff that's on YOUR HDD is the crazy shit. ::)
I got his (pointless) point, thanks. Admit it though - if you found any of that shit on an unguarded PC, you would lose your tiny mind.
I learned back in 2003 that if you don't want to bomb a country, you're apparently a die-hard supporter of its regime. Which would explain why I've got that big Khamenei poster and all those Kim Jong-il bobbleheads.
those are supposed to be proportional, now you hurt his feelings
Well the point Macamint was trying to make was that everything here is not classified at the top levels.In theory, wikileaks helps keep governments a bit more honest. In practice, it's just gonna make them more secretive than ever. The most interesting thing about it is learning just how inept security is. All those spy flicks lied to me! You clearly don't need to be Jason Bourne to get your hands on the craziest shit imaginable.
None of this is the craziest shit imaginable, by any means - it's pretty mid-level stuff
Oh right - all that stuff that's on YOUR HDD is the crazy shit. ::)
I got his (pointless) point, thanks. Admit it though - if you found any of that shit on an unguarded PC, you would lose your tiny mind.
I'm not sure why you're particularly butthurt over this - it's neat to see some inner workings that aren't normally shared and perhaps some heads will roll, but this is just info from an intranet designed to share info between agencies that have always and still like to keep their cards close to their chest. ~3 million people had clearance to this info. It was guarded, but not restricted to the highest levels. Fucking deal with it.
I don't get the comments about this news supporting the war hawks "bomb iran" sentiment though. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it just show the very self-serving reason for why one muslim country might be against Iran?
Who said this supported "Bomb Iran" hawks?
Who said this supported "Bomb Iran" hawks?
David Frum (http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/11/bombing-iran-part-2), unsurprisingly.
A lot of saudis just downright despise iran and iranians, so this came as no shock to me.
I'd rather bomb israel.
I'd rather bomb egypt.
PayPal has permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks due to a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity. We’ve notified the account holder of this action.
the belief among those in government that exposure of government crimes is itself a crime
The locations cited in the diplomatic cable from U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton range from undersea communications lines to suppliers of food, medicine and manufacturing materials.
The cable, written in February 2009 and classified “Secret,” lists more than a hundred facilities that the U.S. considers critical infrastructures or key resources. They include an Israeli weapons manufacturer in Haifa; undersea cables in China and elsewhere; hydroelectric plants; metal and chemical mines and manufacturers; pharmaceutical facilities and labs in Denmark and France where critical formulas are manufactured, such as vaccines for smallpox and influenza and insulin for foot and mouth disease and other ailments; and the Straits of Hormuz, a choke point through which much of the Middle East’s crude oil passes.
The list is compiled annually as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s National Infrastructure Protection Plan to track locations outside U.S. borders whose loss could “critically impact the public health, economic security, and/or national and homeland security of the United States,” according to the cable. Key resources are defined as “publicly or privately controlled resources essential to the minimal operations of the economy and government.”
Although the facilities listed are not secret — and the locations for most of them can be found through a simple Google search — British and U.S. authorities denounced WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange for releasing the list.
Steve Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ Project on Government Secrecy, said that while it might interest potential attackers to know what facilities the U.S. deemed sensitive and critical, a motivated attacker is capable of selecting his own targets without government aid.
“My own opinion is that there’s no shortage of potential targets that hostile actors might find interesting, and they don’t need a State Department list to assist them,” he told Threat Level, noting that the list, produced in a run-on format, makes it difficult to decipher.
“The good news is it’s hard to read,” he said. “Talk about security through obscurity, . . . this is one boring memo. You have to be really committed to get through this.”
He noted, however, that what’s not on the list could be deemed just as important to an attacker.
“By implication it also says that facilities not listed here may not be deemed as important by the government or may not have been recognized by the government as sensitive and may therefore be receiving less protection,” he said.
lol at mupepe's overreaction?
Also the article is very good. In short it's about accountability.
QuoteThe cable, written in February 2009 and classified “Secret,” lists more than a hundred facilities that the U.S. considers critical infrastructures or key resources. They include an Israeli weapons manufacturer in Haifa; undersea cables in China and elsewhere; hydroelectric plants; metal and chemical mines and manufacturers; pharmaceutical facilities and labs in Denmark and France where critical formulas are manufactured, such as vaccines for smallpox and influenza and insulin for foot and mouth disease and other ailments; and the Straits of Hormuz, a choke point through which much of the Middle East’s crude oil passes.
The list is compiled annually as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s National Infrastructure Protection Plan to track locations outside U.S. borders whose loss could “critically impact the public health, economic security, and/or national and homeland security of the United States,” according to the cable. Key resources are defined as “publicly or privately controlled resources essential to the minimal operations of the economy and government.”
Although the facilities listed are not secret — and the locations for most of them can be found through a simple Google search — British and U.S. authorities denounced WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange for releasing the list.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/critical-infrastructures-cable/
I used the descriptive quote because it's an attention grabbing headline that the government can run with to justify silencing him. Like I said, he's turning himself into what the government has been trying to paint him as and they don't even have to lift a finger to do it.Because the US Government and news agencies never use scare tactics to promote their own ill agendas.
Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill
Sens. John Ensign (R-Nev.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.) introduced a bill Thursday aimed at stopping WikiLeaks by making it illegal to publish the names of military or intelligence community informants.
Ensign accused WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and his "cronies" of hindering America's war efforts and creating a "hit list" for U.S. enemies by outing intelligence sources.
“Our sources are bravely risking their lives when they stand up against the tyranny of al Qaeda, the Taliban and murderous regimes, and I simply will not stand idly by as they become death targets because of Julian Assange," Ensign said. "Let me be very clear, WikiLeaks is not a whistleblower website and Assange is not a journalist.”
Assange has been under fire in recent weeks thanks to his site's dissemination of thousands of classified diplomatic cables, some of which have proved embarrassing to the Obama administration because of their frank tone. Attorney General Eric Holder recently pledged to close gaps in the law that allow sites like WikiLeaks to continue to operate.
The Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination Act (SHIELD) would give the government the flexibility to pursue Assange for allegedly outing confidential U.S. informants. Brown said the law would prevent anyone from compromising national security in a similar manner, while Lieberman said its passage was essential to restore the international diplomatic community's faith in the U.S.
"Our foreign representatives, allies and intelligence sources must have the clear assurance that their lives will not be endangered by those with opposing agendas, whether they are Americans or not, and our government must make it clear that revealing the identities of these individuals will not be tolerated," Lieberman said.
Earlier this week, Lieberman reportedly convinced Amazon.com to stop hosting WikiLeaks, forcing the website to relocate to Switzerland.
Amazon denied government pressure influenced the decision, which they attributed to WikiLeaks's violating the company's terms of service and putting innocent lives at risk.
"It’s clear that WikiLeaks doesn’t own or otherwise control all the rights to this classified content," Amazon said in a statement. "Further, it is not credible that the extraordinary volume of 250,000 classified documents that WikiLeaks is publishing could have been carefully redacted in such a way as to ensure that they weren’t putting innocent people in jeopardy."
WikiLeaks responded on Twitter by calling Amazon cowardly and dishonest.
"Amazon's press release does not accord with the facts on public record. It is one thing to be cowardly. Another to lie about it."
Assange is also currently facing a warrant in Sweden concerning accusations of sexual assault of two young women. Assange has said the encounters were consensual and has called the investigation an international plot to stop WikiLeaks.
A well-known recluse, Assange has gone underground, only resurfacing to conduct remote interviews with the press.
Is it wrong that I want to see what's in his "Insurance file" that he sent out in case something happens to him.
kinda wonder if this truly is a US plant meant to set the stage for internet censorship.
I wasn't surprised by anything that has been leaked so far, I knew most of it already especially the middle east related cables. Its just good to see that it was all actually true.
I am actually becoming more and more of an anarchist, especially towards super powers but not so much when it comes to countries like Sweden but I hope they release something about Sweden that puts some dirt on our government.
I'm positive to the general idea of Wikileaks, as a proof-of-concept for secure leak/whistleblowing collection, but despise the way they editorialize, especially the super dumb text overlays for the "collateral murder" Apache video. Also Assange is a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who needs to step down, which he won't do since he's a co-founder and too full of himself.Well he's been arrested and I'm quite sure the charges will stick so wikileaks will not have a spokesman but a martyr now.
No responsible journalist would have released a list of sites any government deemed to be high value terrorist targets. Good work, Assange. No wonder people think you're an asshole.
So he got arrested, lets leak this shit.
One one hand official US sources have deemed the list to be high value terrorist threats.And if Assange wasn't a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and did calculated releases, there wouldn't be this problem. But no, he's a distinguished mentally-challenged ego-maniac who is putting censorship on the fast track.
On another most of these sites can be found by a Google search.
It's an overreaction for the sake of drumming up support.
Also this http://www.news.com.au/business/wikileaks-cables-reveals-australian-terror-targets/story-e6frfm1i-1225966699674
Right now the value of the list is in dispute.
What you're implying is that the rape allegation is a conspiracy. If that is what you are saying then I'll argue with you on that basis.
If Assange leaked the Evilbore cock forum pics, he would have been a hero.
visa.com is down now too
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10.40pm: Sarah Palin claims her website and credit card details have been attacked by Operation Payback, according to an email she sent to ABC News's Jake Tapper:
The website and personal credit card information of former Gov. Sarah Palin were cyber-attacked today by Wikileaks supporters, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate tells ABC News in an email.
Hackers in London apparently affiliated with "Operation Payback" – a group of supporters of Julian Assange and Wikileaks – have tried to shut down SarahPac and have disrupted Sarah and Todd Palin's personal credit card accounts.
"No wonder others are keeping silent about Assange's antics," Palin emailed. "This is what happens when you exercise the First Amendment and speak against his sick, un-American espionage efforts."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007182352309942.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007182352309942.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories)"Hackers" :rofl Yeah, DDoSing with that app called LOIC that some anon posted a rapidshare link to is some l33t shit
The Internet, it had a good run.spoiler (click to show/hide)A year from now we'll probably have a bill sailing through congress that gives them a "kill" switch or some bullshit like that.[close]
A government official familiar with the investigation said that treating WikiLeaks different from newspapers might be facilitated if investigators found any evidence that Mr. Assange aided the leaker, who is believed to be a low-level Army intelligence analyst -- for example, by directing him to look for certain things and providing technological assistance.
If Mr. Assange did collaborate in the original disclosure, then prosecutors could charge him with conspiracy in the underlying leak, skirting the question of whether the subsequent publication of the documents constituted a separate criminal offense. But while investigators have looked for such evidence, there is no public sign suggesting that they have found any.
Clearly those are well thought out reasons. Nothing bad at all will come from it.
Palin can see the internet.... from her house!!!
Stanhope, take it away (Palin bashing)
[youtube=560,345]KdFJ-hFFdI8[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFJ-hFFdI8
Assange defended his Internet publishing site in a newspaper commentary on Wednesday, saying it was crucial to spreading democracy and likening himself to global media baron Rupert Murdoch in the quest to publish the truth.
Openleaks launches on monday, looking forward to this. Started by Daniel "Schmitt" Domscheit-Berg and some other ex-Wikileaks doods. Openleaks will differ from Wikileaks in that it will be a passive leak aggregator, with secure, encrypted channels to protect sources, and inboxes for traditional news media to peruse. It will do no publishing of its own, thereby falling under the "mere conduit" legislation to avoid legal responsibility of content. In short it will function as sort of an anonymizing "middleware" for traditional media, putting the publishing initiative back in their hands, allowing for free distribution and competition.
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1399/olbig.png)
:hyper
Openleaks launches on monday, looking forward to this. Started by Daniel "Schmitt" Domscheit-Berg and some other ex-Wikileaks doods. Openleaks will differ from Wikileaks in that it will be a passive leak aggregator, with secure, encrypted channels to protect sources, and inboxes for traditional news media to peruse. It will do no publishing of its own, thereby falling under the "mere conduit" legislation to avoid legal responsibility of content. In short it will function as sort of an anonymizing "middleware" for traditional media, putting the publishing initiative back in their hands, allowing for free distribution and competition.
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1399/olbig.png)
:hyper
How will this ensure that documents are genuine?
[youtube=560,345]GDp1izlMQT0[/youtube]:bow
visa.com is down now too
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10.40pm: Sarah Palin claims her website and credit card details have been attacked by Operation Payback, according to an email she sent to ABC News's Jake Tapper:
The website and personal credit card information of former Gov. Sarah Palin were cyber-attacked today by Wikileaks supporters, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate tells ABC News in an email.
Hackers in London apparently affiliated with "Operation Payback" – a group of supporters of Julian Assange and Wikileaks – have tried to shut down SarahPac and have disrupted Sarah and Todd Palin's personal credit card accounts.
"No wonder others are keeping silent about Assange's antics," Palin emailed. "This is what happens when you exercise the First Amendment and speak against his sick, un-American espionage efforts."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates
Unamerican!
Palin gets something right! :lol
I think the point is more of course Julian Assange and his cohorts are un-American, they're not Americans!
Julian Assange's online dating profile :lol
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison
Do not write to me if you are timid. I am too busy. Write to me if you are brave.
Julian Assange's online dating profile :lol
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison
Is that real?
Julian Assange's online dating profile :lol
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison
Is that real?QuoteDo not write to me if you are timid. I am too busy. Write to me if you are brave.
Wow, this guy sounds like a real douche bag.
Major Toni Tones, a spokeswoman at Air Force Space Command in Colorado, said the command had blocked employees whose computers are connected to the Air Force network from accessing at least 25 websites that have posted WikiLeaks documents.
The Air Force "routinely blocks Air Force network access to websites hosting inappropriate materials or malware (malicious software) and this includes any website that hosts classified materials and those that are released by WikiLeaks," she said.