THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on December 22, 2010, 05:57:09 AM
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LBP is a fantastic multiplayer game. Get local co-op and your wife will dig it. Women love it. Children love it. It can be a blast with the right mindset and the right people, emphasis on local multi btw. You can push people, pull people around, slap them in the face, it's fun!
I have not once opened LBP's level editor and there's always a new stream of content to the point where you don't really have to.
Every level edited level I've been to has sucked so it'd be great to have some suggestions but I've liked just about every single pre-made stage.
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Short answer: no
Long answer: hell no
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Nope
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The idea and tools given to you are awesome. Too bad the gameplay sucks. If you go in expecting it to control like Mario you're going to hate it. If you go in expecting it to control like some D level SNES/Genesis crap like Bubsy then you might enjoy it.
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It's terrible game if you're expecting a platformer with precise controls and jumps.
It's a great game if you know what to expect and adopt the hippie sfag mantra: "Great experience, unique gameplay, perfect tools for the creative mind, blah blah." The local co-op is a blast too.
Don't bother with the first game. Get the second if you're still interested.
PS: you, Borys, will totally hate it.
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it is awesome to look at, terrible to actually play unless it is just you and your friends slapping each other around with no intent on completing a level
i will let media molecule bend me over one more time for lbp2, though, in the hopes that the extra stuff like grappling hooks and such make up for the awful, awful jumping
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btw, why would you let your wife get involved? :lol
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Seems like something that would be fun to play with the level creator for a day, but if the basic controls aren't great, who cares if there are 5615619498486464549 levels, that's just 5615619498486464549 levels with bad platforming controls.
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Just dl the demo, Borys.
I don't think the controls in LBP are all that bad. Floaty, but not bad.
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it is awesome to look at, terrible to actually play unless it is just you and your friends slapping each other around with no intent on completing a level
i will let media molecule bend me over one more time for lbp2, though, in the hopes that the extra stuff like grappling hooks and such make up for the awful, awful jumping
This.
I couldn't play the game for more than half an hour without getting bored - but watching my kids play it is awesome.
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I'm sure the waifu will like it. The multiplayer is great fun.
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I liked single player levels a lot. The entire concept of having an endless amount of levels fell through since the community couldn't design proper levels based around the mechanics. Try tried to make platformer or gimmick levels and they weren't fun. The media molecule designed levels were a mix of puzzle and platforming, not just jumping from platform to platform, and if there were those sections, it would be suited to the floaty jumping/grabbing.
For LBP2, at least the direct control idea can at least make those gimmick levels into actual playable levels. The platforming levels based around standard mechanics will still probably be poor, but at least now you can change how your character jump and controls. And I don't think there is a reason to get LBP1 anymore.
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The idea and tools given to you are awesome. Too bad the gameplay sucks. If you go in expecting it to control like Mario you're going to hate it. If you go in expecting it to control like some D level SNES/Genesis crap like Bubsy then you might enjoy it.
Yup, exactly... loved the art design and the whole concept of it, but the controls were waaaay too floaty for my liking. Traded a copy of Gears of War to some dude on NeoGAF for it, and I liked it much better than that at least. It may be worth playing if you can tolerate floaty controls, but play Super Meat Boy or some Wii games if you want tighter platforming.
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jesus god no, it's a terrible game
sackboy is the herpes of mascots
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but EDGE gave is a 10 :smug
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but EDGE gave is a 10 :smug
and next gen gave turok 2 5 stars
what have we learned? oh yes, that game reviewers are mouth-breathing shitheel shills
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Short answer: no
Long answer: hell no
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It's barely even a game.
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but EDGE gave is a 10 :smug
and next gen gave turok 2 5 stars
what have we learned? oh yes, that game reviewers are mouth-breathing shitheel shills
wait, so Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 isn't a 9.5?
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It didn't pass my 15 min test because the controls were so imprecise and the graphics didn't live up to the Pixar hype. Aside from the lighting and DOF, there's nothing particularly impressive about LBP's visuals and the levels are noticeably sparse.
Also, Mr. Angry Face hated it and he's usually right.
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It's got some insanely creative (MM-developed) levels, and is quite playable unless you're some kind of dumbass, but it would have benefited quite a bit from some form of decent narrative. They banked entirely on whimsy and the whole make your own game stuff. Fun to play with the kid, but that's about it.
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but EDGE gave is a 10 :smug
and next gen gave turok 2 5 stars
what have we learned? oh yes, that game reviewers are mouth-breathing shitheel shills
Yeah, I know. Learned my lesson with Bayonetta, Red Dead Redemption and Dragon Age.
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It's got some insanely creative (MM-developed) levels, and is quite playable unless you're some kind of dumbass, but it would have benefited quite a bit from some form of decent narrative. They banked entirely on whimsy and the whole make your own game stuff. Fun to play with the kid, but that's about it.
Yup, just what I want in a platformer, a narrative... :yuck
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Well, something to tie the levels together. It's all ridiculously creative, but everything feels so detached.
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duckman, remember when TVC/whiteman banned you at GAF for complaining about the plot of a Ratchet & Clank game being spoiled? :lol
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duckman, remember when TVC/whiteman banned you at GAF for complaining about the plot of a Ratchet & Clank game being spoiled? :lol
Uh, that's never actually happened. I remember complaining about it, but hey, people bitch about stupider things, like the Halo plot.
Ratchet is not exactly SMB.
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Eh, I still love LBP. Thought the levels were cool, especially the challenge levels and some of the physics puzzles were pretty awesome in the later levels. Also I'd bet your waifu would love it. I still just don't understand the hate for the game. AAA would play again.
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It's got some insanely creative (MM-developed) levels, and is quite playable unless you're some kind of dumbass, but it would have benefited quite a bit from some form of decent narrative. They banked entirely on whimsy and the whole make your own game stuff. Fun to play with the kid, but that's about it.
It's playable but it doesn't provide a challenge exactly with the platforming due to the floaty controls.
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Ahahaha, the unrestrained hate is a little over the top and unwarranted. LBP is gud; yes it had floaty jumps, but everything that made it great had mostly nothing to do with the "jumping" parts. It really comes down to this:
The real attraction of the game is the level editor. The game may look like it's evenly split between the level editor, the story mode, and the community made levels, but how much you'll like the last two depends on the first.
The story mode is more or less a giant tutorial mode meant to inspire the player with ideas for levels. If you're interested in creating stuff you'll find yourself trying to figure out how the design team created this or that contraption.
The online is definitely flooded with crap, but with "MM picks" and search filters like most played/hearted, this week/month/ever you're bound to find most of the good levels. But even that usually boils down to whether you're interested in the creation part or not because, much like the story mode, you won't appreciate 80% of the community content unless you do as the community is too focused on creating the most complex and intricate looking levels and contraptions.
There's a great deal of "play" in this game, but it definitely takes a backseat to the "create" part if we're making a fair comparison. Consider this: the story mode challenges you to collect all the giant bubbles in every level It's the most important collectible (other than score points) in the game, and what does those bubbles contain? objects, materials, tools for level creation.
In other words, it's not the bore's cup of tea, and probably not yours too Borys.
It's got some insanely creative (MM-developed) levels, and is quite playable unless you're some kind of dumbass, but it would have benefited quite a bit from some form of decent narrative. They banked entirely on whimsy and the whole make your own game stuff. Fun to play with the kid, but that's about it.
It's playable but it doesn't provide a challenge exactly with the platforming due to the floaty controls.
Yes, there's a great deal of jumping around, but story levels rarely focus on it to create the most of the challenges (I don't think anyone would like to see me spam this page with story level videos). See, if you played throughout the story you'd realize that, but you didn't.
P.S: most of these crabby geezers didn't too.
P.S.S: I'm playing the story mode right now in preparation for the second's release, since you can import your profile.
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double post.
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I beat LBP's story mode...
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Well, you're clearly not a crabby geezer lol.
But my previous point still stands: everyone got suckered into this game thinking it's a mario killer, since that's what most hyped it up to be, but it turned out to be anything but a mario competitor. What was advertised as the most casual game from Sony's first party studios, turned out to be the most niche of them all. It literally ended up appealing to one of the smallest subsets of gamers.
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It's got some insanely creative (MM-developed) levels, and is quite playable unless you're some kind of dumbass, but it would have benefited quite a bit from some form of decent narrative. They banked entirely on whimsy and the whole make your own game stuff. Fun to play with the kid, but that's about it.
It's playable but it doesn't provide a challenge exactly with the platforming due to the floaty controls.
Yes, there's a great deal of jumping around, but story levels rarely focus on it to create the most of the challenges (I don't think anyone would like to see me spam this page with story level videos). See, if you played throughout the story you'd realize that, but you didn't.
Yeah it doesn't focus on the jumping and so it feels floaty, I guess to make the game more accessible. But I think it would have been better if they did make the jumping feel tighter to make it possible for a fun jumping-centric levels to be made by the community. For example, a lot of people put a ton of time into making really detailed copies of old school platformers but they just didn't feel right. Of course now you can customize the jumping mechanics in the sequel.
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Yeah, I'm not going to defend that. I hated how the jumps worked too. Everyone's excuse is that it's a "physics" based game, so fucking what? turn him into a sack of a potatoes, if that's what it takes to make him control better. Not to mention how often you'll be screwed if you don't gain any momentum before jumping or "didn't press X long enough." What I find most boggling is that the jumping in the sequel feels exactly the same. I literally don't understand how they tried to improve on almost every aspect of the first, but didn't touch the most criticized aspect by every gaming outlet and gamer.
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Apparently the default setting of the jumping physics feels the as the first game so that you can import the old levels but you can change the physics in the level editor.
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According to MM and many players who test the final game, it's entirely true. The sackboy's default physics remain unchanged. Now if you're a level creator and wanted the sackboy's physics tweaked in your level you have to add a sackbot > attach a direct control to it (your sackboy controls the sackbot) > tweak the physics of the sackbot by gravity controls THEN you get a sackboy that is heavier on your level. WOW!
I really hope I'm wrong about this.
By the way, the excuse of "we decided to make the sackboy the same because of the import feature" is complete BS. It's just bullet point feature they want to add to the back of the cover. You have no idea how much the new tools of LBP2 simplify some of the most complicated parts of the first's editors, when new players get a hold of them they will ditch their old designs completely and start from scratch. At least that's what the general consensus was during the beta, which allowed importing levels from LBP1.
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We attempted to make a level where you fight through WW2 and end up fighting a giant Hitler robot. The only way to defeat him was to drop a white pill (cyanide capsule) in his mouth whenever he would stop to laugh but we never quite figured out how to get it to work properly. So instead we made a Vietnam level with shit exploding and inanimate shit catching on fire, particularly Vietnamese civilians. so brutal.
then it got boring but before all that, i thoroughly enjoyed it, especially the single player.
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If you liked LBP but hated those three you legitimately have the worst taste on this board.
Bayonetta is the only game I'd rate positively out of those three. The rest is absolute trash.
My scores:
LBP 7/10
Bayonetta 7/10
RDR 5/100
DA 2/10000
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The level editor is pretty goddam impressive and allows for some crazy creations. Too bad the game itself is just completely not fun to play.
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I enjoy the copy you sent me for Secret Santa last year, Borys. I've literally played it more than anything else on my PS3, with Batman AA as a close 2nd. It is fun, but it's prettier than it is fun, so you'll want to have an HDTV before you try to play it.
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lol. fascinating way of spending your afternoon.
the top comment on the youtube is :rofl
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[youtube=560,345]zQxngCm5BtU[/youtube]
lol. fascinating way of spending your afternoon.
the top comment on the youtube is :rofl
what in the fuck is this shit? this isn't lbp ???
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This is LBP2. I told you the new tools would open a flood gate of non-games and non-playable galleries.
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Stop wasting your time on this
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