dogma
no, i'm intelligent.
I was raised Atheist and have been to church services four or five times total in my lifetime, at least three of which were during a Young Life camp that I was duped into attending under the guise of, "it's like that movie Heavyweights for normal people and BETTER", but in reality was more of a Christian brainwashing clinic, albeit an entertaining one.
I, too, was duped into going to young life. They really do their best to make you feel bad about your beliefs. They managed to get to me and I came home Christian for about mmm a week? After that I realized these thoughts weren't my own but I was pressured into them. I consider it my life lesson on brain washing.
I can be a very spiritual person, but I don't believe in a faith that is contained in brick and mortar walls, no matter how pretty the stained glass is.
Every week.
Every week.
How come?
If you don't go to church why?
if you go to church why?
:P
only for funerals :fbm
Every week.
Yeah if there's one thing I appreciate about how my parents raised me, it's that they didn't force church on me.
Yeah if there's one thing I appreciate about how my parents raised me, it's that they didn't force church on me.
Same here. My wife grew up going to church, however, and it means something to her. I really don't have a problem going with her, and we found a great church that's incredibly progressive and liberal. None of the creepy dogma, just a message of love everyone, help others and protect the Earth.
With that said, I've made it very clear that I do not agree with forcing our children to attend church if they decide that it's not for them when they're old enough to make that decision.
Every week.
Very atheist so no.
I remember when I was forced to go as a kid and that sucked big time.
I don't even like funerals because of all the religious mumbo jumbo involved in that.
Very atheist so no.
I remember when I was forced to go as a kid and that sucked big time.
I don't even like funerals because of all the religious mumbo jumbo involved in that.
This makes me wonder how I want my funeral to be.
How do I conduct an atheist funeral while dead?
Very atheist so no.
I remember when I was forced to go as a kid and that sucked big time.
I don't even like funerals because of all the religious mumbo jumbo involved in that.
This makes me wonder how I want my funeral to be.
How do I conduct an atheist funeral while dead?
you should get strings attached to your body and get somebody to control you like a puppet. would be pretty funny.
It's not so much about conducting an "atheist" funeral per se as just having a funeral that celebrates the life somebody lived rather than where they are going ala most traditional religious funerals. Funerals will always probably be mostly sad, but I'm always struck by how little of the funeral is actually about the person who died and more about another preaching opportunity for the pastor.Muslims bury the body as soon as possible so I don't think you would get invited unless you were a close friend or relative. I've been to dozens of muslim memorials but only one burial.
I think the dinner after a funeral is always much better than the actual funeral. I wish that was the actual funeral itself.
Of course this is only related to the baptist funerals that I generally attend. I don't know how muslim or jewish funerals work.
I've been to dozens of muslim memorials but only one burial.
well there'd be more burials if muslims didn't constantly blow themselves up in suicide attacks
nope, although the idea of community sounds nice. dogma is creepy!
I'm always struck by how little of the funeral is actually about the person who died and more about another preaching opportunity for the pastor.
I'm always struck by how little of the funeral is actually about the person who died and more about another preaching opportunity for the pastor.
very much so. almost 90% in my experience. I go to religious funerals, but always end up way more pissed afterwards. somehow, I always end up thinking along the lines of "I wish I could believe this stuff! life would be so much easier!"
the situation can be compounded if the person dies a 'bad' death, like a suicide. preachers always go on about how they are in a better place, and they'll be waiting and all that, but sidestep the whole THEY ARE NOW IN HELL aspect.
my ideal funeral would be a celebration of the person's life, although honestly that is easier said than done.
nope, although the idea of community sounds nice. dogma is creepy!
The Bible says to not forsake the gathering together of believers, not meeting in some building and doing this and that because that's what tradition dictates. Religion is evil, God is good. ;) That being said I go to churches where the people aren't religious and they're just people who meet on Sundays somewhere whether it's a church building or some place the rent. I look at Jesus, the one whom people who are "christians" profess to believe in and he was not too pleased with the religious people of his day. This sort of struck me one day and I decided to actually be a follower of Christ (read what he said and did and desire to do the same) instead of some religious dude who spouts holier than thou nonsense all day. This is where I'm at right now.
that's pretty fucked up.
unless of course he was in a gay marriage, in which case, what did you expect?
i'd say tauntaun's always been a damn good christian, if you'd actually paid attention
you fail at e-stalking
very much so. almost 90% in my experience. I go to religious funerals, but always end up way more pissed afterwards.
i'd say tauntaun's always been a damn good christian, if you'd actually paid attention
you fail at e-stalking
The tauntaun I know is all gay subtext all the time. And full disclosure, I only selectively stalk people which usually only goes as far as figuring out what they changed their handle to this time. I forget everything in a few days though.
if you think being christian always means hating/rejecting gay people then you're sadly mistaken about christians in general
i'd say tauntaun's always been a damn good christian, if you'd actually paid attention
you fail at e-stalking
The tauntaun I know is all gay subtext all the time. And full disclosure, I only selectively stalk people which usually only goes as far as figuring out what they changed their handle to this time. I forget everything in a few days though.
if you think being christian always means hating/rejecting gay people then you're sadly mistaken about christians in general
i love dane cook, thanks for the compliment!you should get strings attached to your body and get somebody to control you like a puppet. would be pretty funny.
Cool joke, Dane Cook.
i'd say tauntaun's always been a damn good christian, if you'd actually paid attention
you fail at e-stalking
The tauntaun I know is all gay subtext all the time. And full disclosure, I only selectively stalk people which usually only goes as far as figuring out what they changed their handle to this time. I forget everything in a few days though.
I think the most tragic/offensive/whatever thing about Christianity in the past two decades is how much American Evangelicals have been able to equate "Christianity" with three things: being anti-evolution/science, anti-gay and anti-abortion.
Things like social justice, anti-poverty activism, general compassion and charity, environmentalism, etc, have all been completely minimized/ignored in favour of those three issues.
and the midwest, parts of the north, the rockies....
you also seem to be forgetting that the homophobic crusade against prop 8 in CA was spearheaded by religious leaders
Don't get that too twisted, Gundam. There was plenty of homegrown opposition here as well.
I used to have to go every fruggin week as a kid and I hated it. So awkward with the people who were way too into the singing, holding their arms up and swaying back and forth like the lamest geezer ravers ever. Oh god, the songs were so bad too, and they were better than most church songs (we had, like, a drummer and like electric guitars. that's all you need to be cool. fucking boomers)
I'd go, but just to find a potential hook up.
I'd go, but just to find a potential hook up.