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Title: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 06:02:46 PM
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Microsoft in advance of The NPD's December report has noted that it sold 1.9 million units of the Xbox 360 in December, which is the biggest month in Xbox history, helping to solidify the company's biggest year in Xbox history as well.

$6.2 billion was spent on Xbox 360 products during December, and Microsoft said Xbox 360 was the only console to show year-over-year growth at 42%, making it the fastest-growing console in 2010.

As was already indicated by Major Nelson earlier, demand was quite high and supplies were tight. Microsoft said that "in order to keep up with holiday demand in December for Xbox 360 and Kinect, Microsoft pulled units from its January and February production."

The company continued, "Despite this, Microsoft still experienced out of supply situations in late December, and it expects supply constraint to continue in January and February as it works with retail and manufacturing partners to expedite production and shipments to replenish the channel."

On the software side, December saw three of the top ten console game titles on Xbox 360: Call of Duty: Black Ops, Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood, and Kinect Sports.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-360-sells-19-million-in-december-completes-biggest-year-in-xbox-history/ (http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-360-sells-19-million-in-december-completes-biggest-year-in-xbox-history/)

link is pretty lol,19 million

will update as things come

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ecember 2010 Top 10 Games (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC)
Call of Duty: Black Ops** (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC) 1 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Just Dance 2 (Wii) 2 UBISOFT
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm** (PC) 3 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood** (360, PS3) 4 UBISOFT
Donkey Kong Country Returns (Wii) 5 NINTENDO
Disney Epic Mickey** (Wii) 6 DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) 7 ELECTRONIC ARTS
Michael Jackson The Experience** (Wii, NDS, PSP) 8 UBISOFT
NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2, PC) 9 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (360, PS3, Wii, PC) 10 ELECTRONIC ARTS



Annual 2010 Top 10 Games (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC) Rank Publisher
Call of Duty: Black Ops** (360, PS3, Wii, PC, NDS) 1 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
Halo: Reach** (360) 3 MICROSOFT
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 4 NINTENDO
Red Dead Redemption (360, PS3) 5 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
Wii Fit Plus** (Wii) 6 NINTENDO
Just Dance 2 (Wii) 7 UBISOFT
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2** (360, PS3, PC) 8 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood** (360, PS3) 9 UBISOFT
NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii, PC) 10 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE

PR

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ORT WASHINGTON, NY, January 13, 2011 – According to leading market research company, The NPD Group, the preliminary estimate* for total consumer spend on gaming content via all monetization methods, including new physical video and PC games, used games, game rentals, subscriptions, digital full-game downloads, social network games, downloadable content, and mobile game apps, is between $15.4 to $15.6 billion. This total consumer spend on games content in 2010 represent sales that are flat to down by as much as 1 percent when compared to 2009.

Based on this estimate, spending on new physical content at retail continues to account for the majority of the total consumer spend on games content. U.S. retail sales of new physical video game content, which includes portable, console and PC game software, generated revenues of $10.1 billion, a 5 percent decline over the $10.6 billion generated in 2010.

Bright spots came from PC games new physical retail software, which was up 3 percent in 2010, as well as increases in the consumer spend on used games sales, full-game digital downloads and downloadable content, mobile gaming apps, and social network gaming, which offset declines in console and portable new physical game sales, rentals, and subscriptions.

“December 2010 represented one of the strongest monthly performances the industry has ever had at retail. It was a robust finish to a year marked by innovation and engaging millions of consumers through a multitude of delivery models,” said Michael D. Gallagher, president and CEO of the Entertainment Software Association, the trade group that represents U.S. computer and video game publishers. “Computer and video games led all other entertainment options as we responded to consumers’ demands for creative content on every platform from consoles to smart phones to handheld game devices. I look forward to a strong 2011 with a great pipeline of titles, many of which will be unveiled at the global center of video games—the E3 Expo.”

“The dynamics of games content purchasing changed dramatically in 2010 with options ranging from the physical product to digital downloads on connected devices as well as in-store digital kiosks,” said Anita Frazier, industry analyst, The NPD Group. “The increasing number of ways to acquire the content has allowed the industry to maintain total consumer spend on content as compared to 2009, and we should expect 2011 to be a growth year in the games industry as the consumer demand for gaming continues to evolve.”

Analysis from NPD's Anita Frazier:
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Overall

"We estimate that the total consumer spend on games content to be between $15.4B and $15.6B for 2010, which is about flat to last year. This year, declines in portable and console game sales were offset by new physical PC game sales, which increased by 3%, and increases in the consumer spend occuring via digital download, mobile gaming apps, social network games, and used games. We will issue our final analysis of the total consumer spend on the industry in March when we release our 2010 edition of the Games Industry Total Consumer Spend report."

"Sales of new physical video game hardware, software & accessories ended 2010 at $18.6B, a 6% decrease from 2009. If we include PC game sales, which enjoyed an increase of 3% versus '09, sales hit $19.3B, down 5% from '09. Aside from PC games, accessory sales were up over 13% due to an increase in the average retail price of accessory items of 20%. "

"Among new physical video game sales in December 2010, the Wii and the 360 platforms generated the greatest dollar sales of all platforms, at 32% and 31% of dollar sales respectively, across all categories including hardware, software and accessories."

Hardware

"In 2010, the Xbox 360 platform was the only system to enjoy a year-over-year increase in unit sales over 2009. December 2010 is the best month ever for Xbox 360 hardware sales."

"For the month of December, the Nintendo DS was the best-selling hardware system, achieving an install base of over 47 million units sold in the U.S., which now surpasses that of the PS2."

Software

"The best-selling game for the month, and for the year, was Call of Duty: Black Ops. Year-to-date it has sold more than 12 million units across all platforms, which is more than twice as many as the second best-selling title of the year, Madden NFL '11. This might lead some to think the industry is becoming more hit-driven with sales more concentrated among the top titles, but in fact, sales of the top 10 titles this year represented about the same percentage of total unit sales as they did last year."

"The top five games of the year are Call of Duty: Black Ops, Madden NFL '11, Halo: Reach, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and Red Dead Redemption."

"On an SKU basis, games that are in the top 10 for the month that aren't reflected in our title-level best-selling list include Kinect Sports from Microsoft, UDraw Studio with UDraw Tablet from THQ, and Dance Central from Microsoft. Outside of Black Ops and Assassin’s Creed, the top list on both a SKU and title level basis reflects an array of content that is appealing outside the core audience for gaming that you might expect to sell well during the holiday timeframe."

"PC game dollar sales were up 62% in December led by sales of World of Warcraft: Cataclysm expansion pack. For 2010 new physical PC game sales, Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty and World of Warcraft: Cataclysm are the best-selling games, representing 14% of total pc game unit sales for the year."

"Among the top 10 titles for the month, two are third-party Wii games including Just Dance 2 from Ubisoft, which was the best-selling game for the month at the SKU level, and Epic Mickey from Disney."

Accessories

"December 2010 is the biggest month for accessories sales in history, due to a hefty increase in the average retail price driven by specialty controllers.

"The Kinect was the best-selling accessory item for the second month in a row, following its release in early November."

"For both the month of December and for the whole year, Point & Subscription cards grew the most in unit volume vs. 2009. This is a retail reflection of the growing importance of digitally delivered gaming content."

Numbers


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PS3 1.21 mill
360 1.86 mill
Wii 2.36 mill
DS 2.5 mill


http://www.nintendoeverything.com/58938/ (http://www.nintendoeverything.com/58938/)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/01/2010-video-game-sales-from-npd.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/01/2010-video-game-sales-from-npd.html)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2011, 06:08:51 PM
NPD is not today is it?  I can't even remember if anything noteworthy came out in December.  Here's hoping Donkey Kong kept trucking.  I think the Wii may have finally outsold the Xbox since June.  The numbers the released indicate they sold over 2 million units.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 06:10:03 PM
It is today,hour or so left.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 06:11:08 PM
Enjoy it while you can, Xbots.  The promise of great PS3 2011 exclusives will turn the tide.  Especially since they will probably be free by the time of release.  
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 06:15:53 PM
3 people from here (demi, Beezy and one person I do not recall) bought a PS3 in December in the US

+3 Sony NPD :rock

 :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 13, 2011, 06:25:29 PM
YEAR OF PS3 CONTINUES
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 06:32:34 PM
YEAR OF PS3 CONTINUES


the year just started. i say PS3 less than 500k for this NPD  :P

The GAF thread should be good  :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 06:34:40 PM
from gaf

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December 2010 Top 10 Games (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC)
Call of Duty: Black Ops** (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC) 1 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Just Dance 2 (Wii) 2 UBISOFT
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm** (PC) 3 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood** (360, PS3) 4 UBISOFT
Donkey Kong Country Returns (Wii) 5 NINTENDO
Disney Epic Mickey** (Wii) 6 DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) 7 ELECTRONIC ARTS
Michael Jackson The Experience** (Wii, NDS, PSP) 8 UBISOFT
NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2, PC) 9 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (360, PS3, Wii, PC) 10 ELECTRONIC ARTS



Annual 2010 Top 10 Games (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC) Rank Publisher
Call of Duty: Black Ops** (360, PS3, Wii, PC, NDS) 1 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
Halo: Reach** (360) 3 MICROSOFT
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 4 NINTENDO
Red Dead Redemption (360, PS3) 5 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
Wii Fit Plus** (Wii) 6 NINTENDO
Just Dance 2 (Wii) 7 UBISOFT
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2** (360, PS3, PC) 8 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood** (360, PS3) 9 UBISOFT
NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii, PC) 10 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE


PC :bow2

GT5 :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 06:36:44 PM
Shame on Sony for not printing GT5 fast enough to meed demand.  
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 06:37:29 PM
GT5?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2011, 06:38:03 PM
I was just about to mention GT 5.

What's the excuse now since it had a full month.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
Starcraft 2 will sell for a decade though.  No worries there.  Also, pretty sure that NPD still doesn't count DD sales which probably accounted for a huge portion of Starcraft 2's sales.  
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 06:40:46 PM
Wait for CFW 3.56 with iso loading support.

I was just about to mention GT 5.

What's the excuse now since it had a full month.


Supply, as usual. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
seems PS3 is down YOY (only 360 increasing)

Cod :BLOPS sold 12 mill in 2 months? dang
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 06:42:35 PM
PR and analysis in OP
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
What's the individual top 10?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 06:53:36 PM
What's the individual top 10?

This is what we now so far

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"On an SKU basis, games that are in the top 10 for the month that aren't reflected in our title-level best-selling list include Kinect Sports from Microsoft, UDraw Studio with UDraw Tablet from THQ, and Dance Central from Microsoft. Outside of Black Ops and Assassin’s Creed, the top list on both a SKU and title level basis reflects an array of content that is appealing outside the core audience for gaming that you might expect to sell well during the holiday timeframe."
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Beezy on January 13, 2011, 06:56:59 PM
Natal Dance Central > GT5 :lol
Natal :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 06:58:57 PM
What's sfags gonna do now that they can't even rely on sales to defend GT5?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: demi on January 13, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
uh, i've owned at least 3 PS3s now... there just wasnt shit to play on it back then

this one i plan on keeping now that sony has their shit together (for the most part) for some vidya
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
G R A N   T U R I S M :-\   500K

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 07:03:24 PM
rumored numbers

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DS - 2.4 million
Wii - 2.2 million
360 - 1.9 million
PS3 - 1.1 million
PSP - 500 000


What an amazing YEAR OF PLAYSTATION:
- Borys buys one


True kiss of death right there  :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2011, 07:07:50 PM
Gran Turismo 5 :rofl

:lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 07:08:25 PM
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DS - 2.4 million
Wii - 2.2 million
360 - 1.9 million
PS3 - 1.1 million
PSP - 500 000

That dude said that he heard them in some Sweden podcast yesterday
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 07:10:37 PM
500,000 and 2.4 million for two almost dead platforms are pretty amazing if true.  Does the general public really know so little about what's going on? 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 07:10:38 PM
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DS - 2.4 million
Wii - 2.2 million
360 - 1.9 million
PS3 - 1.1 million
PSP - 500 000

That dude said that he heard them in some Sweden podcast yesterday

Hence rumored (till we get from Pacther, etc)

Sounds like they are EEDAR predictions

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/58714/
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 07:15:49 PM
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DS - 2.4 million
Wii - 2.2 million
360 - 1.9 million
PS3 - 1.1 million
PSP - 500 000

That dude said that he heard them in some Sweden podcast yesterday

Hence rumored (till we get from Pacther, etc)
I know,but this a pretty stretchy rumor,Sweden podcast getting numbers day before MS,Sony,Nintendo...that would be some serious leak
Usually if something leaks from NPD it happens after subscribers get their numbers
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 07:17:05 PM
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DS - 2.4 million
Wii - 2.2 million
360 - 1.9 million
PS3 - 1.1 million
PSP - 500 000

That dude said that he heard them in some Sweden podcast yesterday

Hence rumored (till we get from Pacther, etc)
I know,but this a pretty stretchy rumor,Sweden podcast getting numbers day before MS,Sony,Nintendo...that would be some serious leak
Usually if something leaks from NPD it happens after subscribers get their numbers

read my edit
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 13, 2011, 07:20:39 PM
Surprised Epic Mickey actually charted. Guess that's Disney Marketing Magic
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 07:21:35 PM
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DS - 2.4 million
Wii - 2.2 million
360 - 1.9 million
PS3 - 1.1 million
PSP - 500 000

That dude said that he heard them in some Sweden podcast yesterday

Hence rumored (till we get from Pacther, etc)
I know,but this a pretty stretchy rumor,Sweden podcast getting numbers day before MS,Sony,Nintendo...that would be some serious leak
Usually if something leaks from NPD it happens after subscribers get their numbers

read my edit

I did,but then my typing would go to waste :P
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 07:25:36 PM
Surprised Epic Mickey actually charted. Guess that's Disney Marketing Magic

Shows that piracy won't necessarily kill off sales if an userbase is large enough. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2011, 07:26:22 PM
Surprised Epic Mickey actually charted. Guess that's Disney Marketing Magic

I'm guessing it will fall off a cliff in January, much worse than anything else.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 07:43:14 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/01/2010-video-game-sales-from-npd.html


PS3 1.21 mill (-11)
360 1.86 mill (+42)
Wii 2.36 mill  (-38)
DS 2.5 mill (from Nintendo PR)

bracketed numbers are yoy values

2010 totals

NDS - 8.56 million
WII - 7.07 million
360 - 6.76 million
PS3 - 4.33 million

Nintendo's PR link - http://www.nintendoeverything.com/58938/
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2011, 08:00:23 PM
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360 - 6.76 million
PS3 - 4.33 million

Remember when PS3 gaining 50-100k back in May/June was a massive achievement?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2011, 08:04:56 PM
Why would PS3 outsell the 360 in Jan/Feb?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
Also, I expect PS3 to outsell the 360 for the next two months.

Even with the supposed "hardware shortage" I don't think that is likely to happen. The next time the PS3 outsells the 360 most likely would be on a price drop would be my guess.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2011, 08:09:07 PM
Why would PS3 outsell the 360 in Jan/Feb?

Shortages,but i don't think that they could be that severe :lol

Bring more numbers,we have nothing for games

btw,DS...2.5 million
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 13, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Why would PS3 outsell the 360 in Jan/Feb?

There're plenty more people like Don Flamenco out there. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
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360 - 6.76 million
PS3 - 4.33 million

Remember when PS3 gaining 50-100k back in May/June was a massive achievement?

supposedly Sony is off by 1000 units from last years number  :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 08:14:19 PM
Why would PS3 outsell the 360 in Jan/Feb?

There're plenty more people like Don Flamenco out there. 

So Jack Sparrow then?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Diunx on January 13, 2011, 08:23:36 PM
First games with plastic instruments and now dancing games? wth america?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Fuck yeah Donkey Kong.  By far Retro's most successful game and on a worldwide basis.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2011, 09:29:26 PM
I wonder if Warren Spector gets to keep his job now.

Fuck yeah Donkey Kong.  By far Retro's most successful game and on a worldwide basis.
By far the best quality wise as well.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that's not a compliment, btw
[close]

I can't tell if your dissing the Prime games, Donkey Kong, or the whole pot.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: archie4208 on January 13, 2011, 09:33:03 PM
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm -- 1.5MM
Disney's Epic Mickey -- 1.32MM
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit -- 906.4K

PC gaming :bow2

Glorified chat clients :bow2
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2011, 09:47:20 PM
Yep, I'd say the 360 has decisively pulled ahead of the PS3 now.

Wait till GT 6.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Diunx on January 13, 2011, 09:59:45 PM
Wait till MGS5 :bow2
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2011, 10:01:01 PM
Donkey Kong has probably already broken 3 million worldwide :hyper

450k November
1.3 millionish December

700k Japan

Charting pretty well around Europe with the exception of the UK. 


I do have to wonder if Just Dance is the game keeping the Wii afloat at this point. Its a damn monster. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
Seems GT5 did 560k

sucks compared to the other guys numbers
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2011, 10:25:29 PM
Kinect Sports and Dance Central have both sold 1 million units in US alone LTD.



Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
Wait till PS4 8)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2011, 10:34:13 PM
Kinect Sports and Dance Central have both sold 1 million units in US alone LTD.





I'm imagining myself playing game dev story right about now.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2011, 11:12:54 PM
Sony PR on 2010 data, talks about 2011 release :rofl

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Top PlayStation Highlights
- PS3 was only console to have 32% increase in software sales YOY.
- LittleBigPlanet 2 currently has a Metacritic score of 94, which makes it one of the Top 10 PS3 games of all times.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2011, 05:01:58 AM
Sony PR
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the PS3 is perhaps the only console that grows more valuable over time

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: SantaC on January 14, 2011, 05:13:59 AM
Fuck yeah Donkey Kong.  By far Retro's most successful game and on a worldwide basis.
By far the best quality wise as well.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
that's not a compliment, btw
[close]

except for those shitty waggle moves
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 14, 2011, 06:51:02 AM
Maybe Sony can bundle GT5 in the PS3 and then claim that the game has sold millions of copies.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: magus on January 14, 2011, 07:14:09 AM
Sony PR
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the PS3 is perhaps the only console that grows more valuable over time



well you have to give some time to the hacker

DUH!
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 14, 2011, 08:19:01 AM
I expected GT5 to suffer from the decline of interest in driving games, but it is still surprising to me to see it flounder out of the gate. I imagine it is still doing really well in Europe?

Sony PR
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the PS3 is perhaps the only console that grows more valuable over time



:lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 14, 2011, 08:42:51 AM
More valuable for whom, exactly?

People that can't afford to buy games.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2011, 12:12:16 PM
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If you want to look at the recent holiday season as "Round 1" of the motion controls battle between Microsoft and Sony, it would appear that Microsoft's Kinect is winning handily (bad pun, considering that it's "hands free" gaming). Not only has Kinect quickly shipped 8 million units, but for the month of December, Xbox 360 Kinect bundles outsold PS3 Move bundles considerably. The software for the motion camera is faring far better too, according to Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter.

"About one fifth of PS3 sales included bundles with Sony’s Move controller, suggesting a modest third month (we have chosen not to subscribe to peripheral data). About half of Xbox 360 sales included bundles with Microsoft’s Kinect peripheral, as Xbox 360 Kinect console bundles outsold PS3 Move console bundles by 5:1," Pachter said.

"Microsoft announced that it has shipped 8 million Kinect units since launch (in November), which was raised from its earlier goal of 5 million. More significantly, in our view, the top two selling Kinect software titles outsold the top two Move titles by over 13:1."
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/microsofts-xbox-360-kinect-bundles-outsold-move-bundles-by-51/ (http://www.industrygamers.com/news/microsofts-xbox-360-kinect-bundles-outsold-move-bundles-by-51/)

couldn't find appropriate smiley
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: ManaByte on January 14, 2011, 12:58:12 PM


couldn't find appropriate smiley

(http://i.imgur.com/ALR6I.gif)

Not a smiley but it works.

Would be even better with a 360/Kinect in the back seat.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2011, 01:42:40 PM
It was posted on no smiley forum,response

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No one with a clue outside of console fanboy wankery considered Kinect and Move in direct competition with one another, or that Move would come anywhere close competing with Kinect even in a vague way. The fact that MS keeps harping on it just comes off as immature as hell.

So what is then Move competition,Wii?
That turned out even worse

Reminds me of "Wii is not competition" Sony stuff...

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 14, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
It was posted on no smiley forum,response

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No one with a clue outside of console fanboy wankery considered Kinect and Move in direct competition with one another, or that Move would come anywhere close competing with Kinect even in a vague way. The fact that MS keeps harping on it just comes off as immature as hell.

So what is then Move competition,Wii?
That turned out even worse

Reminds me of "Wii is not competition" Sony stuff...



lol wtf
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2011, 01:54:55 PM
It was posted on no smiley forum,response

Quote
No one with a clue outside of console fanboy wankery considered Kinect and Move in direct competition with one another, or that Move would come anywhere close competing with Kinect even in a vague way. The fact that MS keeps harping on it just comes off as immature as hell.

So what is then Move competition,Wii?
That turned out even worse

Reminds me of "Wii is not competition" Sony stuff...



Immature?  :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2011, 02:04:59 PM
He thought that MS was behind those numbers

Even if you could forget everything on forums,websites you still have Sony
They were quite quick to respond to MS 2.5 million sold figure...hardly a coincidence

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2011, 02:13:41 PM
In other words,

"wait for a price drop"

didn't we saw that before? ;)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 14, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
560?  It'll end up where GT4 did in the long run.

So GT5 sold almost 10x as well in Japan and Europe?  It's amazing how much relevance Sony has lost in the US.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2011, 04:40:39 PM
Quote
Epic Mickey ranked among the top-selling console games in December, according to figures released by the NPD Group. Disney sold 1.3 million units, said people familiar with the data.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/01/disneys-epic-mickey-video-game-sells-13-million-copies-in-first-month.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/01/disneys-epic-mickey-video-game-sells-13-million-copies-in-first-month.html)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 14, 2011, 05:59:05 PM
Every publisher considers shipped= sold.  I guess they think they have decent odds that they won't have to take unsold inventory back.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 14, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Pretty sure that Sony said 5 million sold at CES, not just shipped.  It's pretty shady to use shipped numbers as an indication of success when they're so drastically different from sell-through numbers.  If shipped numbers is the industry standard, then Activision can just announce that COD has sold 20 million copies worldwide. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 15, 2011, 03:18:11 AM
If somebody is interested in UK 2010 stuff

Online MCV mag
http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm (http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm)

Tons of data there,
top 50,various gaming related percentages,movie industry percentages,article about Capcom saying that smartphones have taken place of the DS,PSP and PC,etc
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Yeti on January 16, 2011, 09:29:28 PM
Not gonna lie, I play Smurf's Village every now and then.  :-\
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2011, 10:43:34 PM
PS3 is selling for $40 on Target/Amazon (orders will probably get cancelled) and is one of the top things on amazon now  :lol

next month PS3 counter attack  :punch

1. Ranking has gone up in the past 24 hours 623,500%
Sales Rank in Video Games: 1 (was 6,236 yesterday)

Sony :bow2
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: naff on January 16, 2011, 10:56:16 PM
:rofl I would try this but they don't ship internationally  :'(

Quote from: amazon forums
got this from another site im on someguy purchased it and talked to the Target Rep :

'hey again we are sorry and we will honor this purchase it has to be a slim because we don't have any of the bigger models anymore is that suitable for you?'' i said yup and he said again we are truly sorry and they really dropped the ball on this one you should receive it in 2-4 weeks...

http://www.target.com/dp/B0009VXAM0
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 16, 2011, 11:10:59 PM
that's not a ps3; that's a "PlayStation 3 Move Advanced Shooter Grip (PlayStation 3)"

:lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2011, 11:12:30 PM
It's going to be funny if everyone that orders this gets a Move Sharp Shooter. :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: naff on January 16, 2011, 11:19:36 PM
I didn't look at the target listing properly :lol the Amazon listing that was up a few minutes ago didn't have that and has been updated now but This Link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009VXAM0/ref=s9_pop_gw_ir07?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=17AQDAJVB9TRC12B469E&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1263340922&pf_rd_i=507846) still goes to the 40$ listing
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Diunx on January 16, 2011, 11:24:09 PM
PS3 is selling for $40 on Target/Amazon (orders will probably get cancelled) and is one of the top things on amazon now  :lol

next month PS3 counter attack  :punch

1. Ranking has gone up in the past 24 hours 623,500%
Sales Rank in Video Games: 1 (was 6,236 yesterday)

Sony :bow2

Fuuuuuuuuuuu why I'm unemployed :'( :'( if they haven't fixed by tomorrow I'm gonna tell my brother to see if he buys it.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 16, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
Should I buy this? What has happened in these situations historically?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
they probably cancel your order

dunno what'll happen if you order through amazon.  I remember getting the Halo Reach Legendary edition for the regular price through a price mix up, but that was wholly amazon, not target or whatever.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 16, 2011, 11:37:12 PM
I'm not expecting a PS3, but maybe a courtesy credit or something. I guess I will click buy
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2011, 11:39:50 PM
people on gaf are saying that will happen, but again, it is still connected with Target.  I think the thing to say is that there isn't reason not to.  Worst case is that it turns out to be the gun and they switch the order, then you just cancel it since it isn't out yet.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 16, 2011, 11:40:01 PM
Year of the PS3 continues!
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 17, 2011, 12:54:53 AM
Year of the PS3 continues!

.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 17, 2011, 05:00:10 AM
If somebody is interested in UK 2010 stuff

Online MCV mag
http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm (http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm)

Tons of data there,
top 50,various gaming related percentages,movie industry percentages,article about Capcom saying that smartphones have taken place of the DS,PSP and PC,etc

So-so read but the data was good.  Not surprised to see the head of Capcom's mobile division talking up smartphones over dedicated gaming devices and PCs, but it's a bit embarrassing she opted to use Smurf's Village to highlight her points.

Yeah,not surprising at all,lots of Capcom support for iPhone.Even Bethesda is "thinking" to do something with it,not even a mention of 3DS,PS2 in the latest interview.They did plan to release Oblivion on PSP,but that got canned.Good thing is that they might do something "unique".
I think that lots of western devs are the same...portable GTA iPhone exclusive,oh well

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsd0H1pAHo[/youtube]

Quite interesting jrpg description...
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 17, 2011, 05:39:21 AM
Yeah,but I'm counting on little risk development,something cheap and not too long
I bet that lots of them have iPhone and iPad,dedicated handhelds on the other hand...



Latest iOS devices rumor
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-17-ipad-2-iphone-5-have-multi-core-power (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-17-ipad-2-iphone-5-have-multi-core-power)
Apple is now kinda like PC(or it used to be),but they have standardized hardware generations

Don't see them stopping until they hit some kind of hardware limit
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 17, 2011, 06:11:35 AM
True,forgot about id(that shows how much they are relevant this gen,still waiting for Rage)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: tiesto on January 17, 2011, 10:59:51 PM
If somebody is interested in UK 2010 stuff

Online MCV mag
http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm (http://62.128.151.219/A1qndr/MCV140111/resources/index.htm)

Tons of data there,
top 50,various gaming related percentages,movie industry percentages,article about Capcom saying that smartphones have taken place of the DS,PSP and PC,etc

So-so read but the data was good.  Not surprised to see the head of Capcom's mobile division talking up smartphones over dedicated gaming devices and PCs, but it's a bit embarrassing she opted to use Smurf's Village to highlight her points.

Yeah,not surprising at all,lots of Capcom support for iPhone.Even Bethesda is "thinking" to do something with it,not even a mention of 3DS,PS2 in the latest interview.They did plan to release Oblivion on PSP,but that got canned.Good thing is that they might do something "unique".
I think that lots of western devs are the same...portable GTA iPhone exclusive,oh well

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsd0H1pAHo[/youtube]

Quite interesting jrpg description...

Yup, he hit the spot why I tend to go for the J games much better than western ones. I'm all about the over-the-top crazy wacky shit, the more realistic a game is, the more boring it tends to be.

BTW it was kinda cool to see FF7 and 8 get a shout in the Planescape Torment credits. I miss the days when Americans weren't talking shit about Japanese games and there wasn't this whole west vs. east mentality in gaming.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 18, 2011, 03:02:59 AM
Gamasutra jvm posted this nice graph

(http://i54.tinypic.com/1180efc.png)

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 18, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
:lol poor PSP
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 18, 2011, 06:28:33 PM
Wow, 360's late surge in popularity is unprecedented. 

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 18, 2011, 07:37:12 PM
...until you realize its barely outselling the PS2 as that system was dieing and not getting new games.  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2011, 07:40:34 PM
...until you realize its barely outselling the PS2 as that system was dieing and not getting new games.  :lol :lol :lol

Which would make the PS3 the biggest failure ever according to this logic.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 18, 2011, 07:46:12 PM
Not if you use logic and compare it to the Xbox 360 in the same amount of years, where it's doing almost exactly the same therefore both consoles are "failure".
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2011, 07:49:17 PM
Yes except that one console is a big improvement sales wise on the prior generation and actually getting more popular as it goes on and the other console is doing jack shit compared to its prior generation and not especially accelerating in this one.

But since you agree the PS3 is a fuckton of failure I welcome more posts from you acknowledging that fact and mentioning how shitty its doing.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 18, 2011, 07:52:57 PM
Funny, I see the 360 and the PS3 having almost the exact same fucking progression path if you stack it up fairly. If PS3 sells 6.8m next year it would be ap erfect fucking fi.t

But nope gotta twist facts to make it seem like my console is ichibon derp depr im a xbot derp drerp

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2011, 07:54:44 PM
Don't worry. Next year is the year of the Ps3. I'm sure sales will be through the roof.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 18, 2011, 07:55:13 PM
derp derp im a xbot gotta twist facts to make me look like my system is the *~!SPECIAL PONY!~* of the system wars derp derp
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Brehvolution on January 18, 2011, 08:52:11 PM
Wii won't hit 5M this year at that pace.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
Not if you use logic and compare it to the Xbox 360 in the same amount of years, where it's doing almost exactly the same therefore both consoles are "failure".

Actually the Xbox360 sold 3.2 million more in those five years.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 18, 2011, 09:56:32 PM
launch aligning is tantamount to that most heinous of crimes....insider trading.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 18, 2011, 09:59:50 PM
launch aligning is tantamount to that most heinous of crimes....insider trading.

:lol

Launch aligning is useful just for curiousity, you can't draw anything meaningful out of it.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2011, 10:43:39 PM
  I request you stop abusing the dear, sweet English language, sir.

I think he has turret's syndrome. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 22, 2011, 01:51:13 AM
I'm beginning to like this Invisible walls thing,via gaf

Quote
Some numbers/info from Invisible Walls again.
100 games sold over 100k.

13 Wii games in top 30.
8 360 games in top 30.
5 PS3 games in top 30
4 DS games in top 30.
3 PSP games in top 200.

No Move games in the top 30.
3 or 4 Kinect games in top 30.

Just Dance 2 - ~2 million
Donkey Kong Country Returns - 1.344 million
Super Mario All Stars - ~500k
God of War Ghost of Sparta - About 100k-150k/roughly 10% as much as Chains of Olympus's first 2 months

GBA - 42
GCN - 2
DS - 2,512,317
PS2 - 75,428
PS3 - 1,209,660
PSP - 428,566
Wii - 2,355,151
X-Box - 0
360 - 1,856,438
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-143-invisible-walls/709693 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-143-invisible-walls/709693)

and again
GCN-2
Xbox-0

 >:(
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 22, 2011, 02:35:50 AM
Super Mario All Stars - ~500k

lol. That's about 600k more than it deserves to sell.

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: demi on January 22, 2011, 05:01:15 AM
Thats a HELL of a surprising lot. Nintendo isnt reprinting that shit for sure.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
When Nintendo can sell over half a million of a rom dump you know piracy problems are overblown.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 22, 2011, 11:04:28 AM

and again
GCN-2
Xbox-0

 >:(

:bow GC :bow2
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: naff on January 22, 2011, 03:21:52 PM
When Nintendo can sell over half a million of a rom dump you know piracy problems are overblown.

Hacking your console requires at least a modicum of intelligence, something the people buying this rom dump obviously lack.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 22, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
US gaming industry talk,some new Gears 3 footage inside

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZynmYC4ac6w[/youtube]
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 22, 2011, 06:46:04 PM
When Nintendo can sell over half a million of a rom dump you know piracy problems are overblown.

Hacking your console requires at least a modicum of intelligence, something the people buying this rom dump obviously lack.

Doesn't change the fact that if publishers were making games the 'dumb' people want to buy then they wouldn't have to blame piracy and used game sales

spoiler (click to show/hide)
  The publishers KNOW piracy and used game sales are not effecting the bottom line substantially enough to be of major concern.   The actuality is that publishers world wide are not making a profit because of piss poor management and bone headed decisions on a consistent basis.  Luckily for them they have such scapegoats, but its a little telling that Iwata, ceo of the most successful publisher, time and time again blames themselves and their inactivity for any lulls or periods of disinterest resulting in lackluster hardware and software sales. Not piracy and not used game sales.
[close]
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2011, 02:52:33 AM
its the Wii audience, its the casual, soft gamer audience that's fickle as hell but sure as shit loves the fuck outta Just Dance.  In the film industry they've got something they call "high concept", the Wii audience by and large only makes hits out of high concept games, if you need more than a single short sentence to explain it, its gonna tank.

"Mario does more stuff."
"Its like karaoke, but with dancing."
"Its right there in the title, Carnival Games."
"Pretend to get in shape with a videogame."

Its the people that made huge hits out of those games that would buy a really lazy Mario collection by the thousands and be perfectly happy with it, they don't expect much out of their gaming because they sure as hell don't put much into it.  This isn't every Wii owner, but it sure accounts for a lot of them.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 23, 2011, 07:03:05 AM
its the Wii audience, its the casual, soft gamer audience that's fickle as hell but sure as shit loves the fuck outta Just Dance.  In the film industry they've got something they call "high concept", the Wii audience by and large only makes hits out of high concept games, if you need more than a single short sentence to explain it, its gonna tank.

"Mario does more stuff."
"Its like karaoke, but with dancing."
"Its right there in the title, Carnival Games."
"Pretend to get in shape with a videogame."

Its the people that made huge hits out of those games that would buy a really lazy Mario collection by the thousands and be perfectly happy with it, they don't expect much out of their gaming because they sure as hell don't put much into it.  This isn't every Wii owner, but it sure accounts for a lot of them.

The rest of the Wii audience uses the Wii as what the paper industry calls "paper weights." They will put the Wii in an ignored corner of the house or even a closet, often discarding the cables on accident.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2011, 08:01:48 PM
And with all those Epic Mickey sales, apparently tons of Disney Interactive people have gotten the boot INCLUDING heavy cuts at Junction Point.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32616/Report_Disney_Interactive_Sees_Significant_Layoffs.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32616/Report_Disney_Interactive_Sees_Significant_Layoffs.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 24, 2011, 10:05:28 PM
NO-ONE FUCKS WITH JASE HALL AND LIVES
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 24, 2011, 10:14:40 PM
And with all those Epic Mickey sales, apparently tons of Disney Interactive people have gotten the boot INCLUDING heavy cuts at Junction Point.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32616/Report_Disney_Interactive_Sees_Significant_Layoffs.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32616/Report_Disney_Interactive_Sees_Significant_Layoffs.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

Large media company makes large, overblown investment into video gaming and then pulls out a few years later?  Well sir, I am shocked, and I for one will not take this kind of garbage from Time Warner Universal Virgin Fox Viacom MTV Disney!

Why do people even take jobs with these kinds of companies?  No matter what you do, you'll end up out on your arse sooner or later.  Next up, Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment!

The thing is all these companies think they will become the next EA or Activision but none of them are willing to stomach the losses that it would take to get there. They get in because they think they have some hot franchise and the franchise is never as hot as they've talked themselves into.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
Quote
Large media company makes large, overblown investment into video gaming and then pulls out a few years later?  Well sir, I am shocked, and I for one will not take this kind of garbage from Time Warner Universal Virgin Fox Viacom MTV Disney!

Why do people even take jobs with these kinds of companies?  No matter what you do, you'll end up out on your arse sooner or later.  Next up, Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment!

(http://www.gameexpress.com/images/product/original/031763107200F.JPG)
(http://www.dreamstime.com/high-five-success--thumb893095.jpg)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2011, 10:44:52 PM
I wonder what expectations they must have had for a third party Wii exclusive? 10million?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 10:49:27 PM
I think Just Dance numbers are the plateau.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2011, 10:50:52 PM
I think Just Dance is the exception to the rule.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 24, 2011, 11:44:46 PM
Guitar Hero 3 did pretty damn well, and it wasn't even exclusive!  I think thats it, bar Red Steel lol.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 25, 2011, 12:47:06 AM
Quote
Deca Sports

smh
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 25, 2011, 07:57:47 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Epic Mickey didn't make its money back.  The game was in development for a long time, and that 1.3 million number is a result of the heavy advertising Disney purchased which included things like dedicated billboards.  I'd be more optimistic if the game had sold in Europe, but that's not the case.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 25, 2011, 08:24:36 AM
I am mystified as to how Carnival Games managed to sell so many copies.  I bought it because I love carnival/circus themes, and I figured it would be a fun set of offbeat minigames to play during a get-together.  Also, it was cheap.  When I took the Wii over to a friend's house, between the four of us I believe we lasted about 30 minutes.  Aside from being sorely disappointed with the lack of sideshow freaks and the terrible presentation, the games were all bland and controlled poorly.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 25, 2011, 08:34:41 AM
The new Carnival Games games don't sell though.  So I guess a lot of people like you got burned by the first one.  Also, they're trying to copy Nintendo's success and assumed putting New! in the title would help them sell New! Carnival Games.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 25, 2011, 08:37:59 AM
Carnival Games, LEGO Star Wars, Rayman Raving Rabbids, GH World Tour, Deca Sports, EA Sports Active, and Monster Hunter Tri round out the major third party successes on the Wii.  Epic Mickey just on its first month's sales is like the 12th highest selling third party Wii game in NA.  That is not a major endorsement for Epic Mickey as much as it is a statement of how shitty third party sales have been on the Wii overall.

What about Sonic games? I think the first shit one did ok, I think the medieval one flopped, but what about Colors?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 25, 2011, 08:42:58 AM
Oscar was listing various million-multimillion sellers on the Wii. None of the sonic games on Wii or any other platform have broken one million sales.  The wii versions do sell the most, which explains Colors' exclusivity, but its in the neighborhood of hundreds of thousands, and I believe its a slow burn to those numbers usually.

edit: Like the third time I had to be corrected this month.  I'll just backpedal and say I was referring to U.S. figures.
edit: I don't consider Mario and Sonic to be groupable with other sonic games as of late.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 25, 2011, 08:43:44 AM
Except for Black Night. 
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Brehvolution on January 25, 2011, 09:16:35 AM
Well, it is just a mickey mouse game. When you think of iconic video game characters, is mickey one of them? THey may have been better off making Epic Frogger.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2011, 10:33:09 AM
I am mystified as to how Carnival Games managed to sell so many copies.
 

Quote
I bought it


Quote
Also, it was cheap.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 25, 2011, 12:19:29 PM
I am mystified as to how Carnival Games managed to sell so many copies.
 

Quote
I bought it


Quote
Also, it was cheap.

bought it used
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 25, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
What about Sonic games? I think the first shit one did ok, I think the medieval one flopped, but what about Colors?

Well, no surprise, but the highest selling are the Mario & Sonic games, with Summer at more than 2 million in NA alone, and Winter well over a million in NA.  Secret Rings is over 700k in NA, over 1.5 mill WW.  Unleashed is 400k+ in NA, about a million WW.  Black Knight was a "disaster" and "only" sold a couple hundred thousand in NA, over 400k WW.

Colors, so far, is performing somewhat similarly to Unleashed.

I'm noticing some huge differences between NA figures and WW.  Sonic is a non factor in japan, so I'm curious if the European factor has always been this large.  Or is it a hodgepodge of latin american, mainland asia, and whatnot figures all combined?  The prevailing attitude I've gathered is those territories are non factors.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 25, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
Yeah, at Alton Towers (UK theme park) I remember they had a tram ride with its own dedicated Sonic the Hedgehog room.  It taunted me with Ice Cap Zone footage considering I could never get past that barrel.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 25, 2011, 01:34:09 PM
Sonic has always enjoyed very good sales in Europe.  It's how Sonic & SEGA All-Star Racing managed to chin up over a million copies in spite of only selling a couple hundred k in North America and not even releasing in Japan.  They really love the little blue fucker there.

Really? Huh.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread
Post by: maxy on January 29, 2011, 10:52:24 AM
Some European sales numbers by pixel counting Nintendo graphs...pixel counting credit goes to Rolf NB from gaf


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Information which has GFK/Media Control/Chart-Track/Nielsen as a source only accounts for the UK, Germany, France and Spain - these four markets make up 75-80 percent of all European sales.

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Console hardware:
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        2008    2009      2010
360    2662k   2368k   2549k
PS2     767k    474k    158k
PS3    2617k   3068k   2774k
Wii    6361k   4962k   3609k

(base: 133 pixels <=> 12M; 1 pixel <~> 90.2k)

Console software
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          2008    2009      2010
360   20.99M  25.00M  27.86M
PS2   20.23M  10.50M   4.20M
PS3   20.23M  26.53M  33.40M
Wii   36.26M  38.55M  32.44M

(base: 131 pixels <=> 100M; 1 pixel <~> 763.36k)

Handheld hardware
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          2008    2009    2010
GBA     ~38k       0       0
NDS    8.44M   6.72M   4.77M
PSP    1.91M   1.45M   0.97M

(base: 131 pixels <=> 10M; 1 pixel <~> 76.336k)

Handheld software
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           2008    2009    2010
GBA    0.76M   0.29M       0
NDS   45.42M  35.78M  26.53M
PSP   10.69M   7.92M   6.77M

(base: 131 pixels <=> 50M; 1 pixel <~> 381.7kk)

Charts are here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=420074 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=420074)
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 29, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
:bow Sony land :bow

Xbox has NEVER outsold a Sony product there. Those men have taste.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 29, 2011, 11:07:29 AM

360    2662k   2368k   2549k
PS2     767k    474k    158k

Annihilated
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: Bocsius on January 29, 2011, 12:17:11 PM
Pixel counting? Really?
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: maxy on January 29, 2011, 12:30:41 PM
Yes,you can try it yourself
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/events/110128/img/38l.jpg)

It's funny that European numbers come from Nintendo and involve pixel counting :lol

Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: Purple Filth on January 29, 2011, 01:15:22 PM

360    2662k   2368k   2549k
PS2     767k    474k    158k

Annihilated

So long PS2  :'(
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 30, 2011, 04:52:28 AM
Pixel counting? Really?


I know it's a pretty sad waste of time.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: maxy on January 30, 2011, 06:31:41 AM
but thanks to them we know that EU is not a Sonyland(if ever was like that,counting Nintendo) and 360 is selling basically on par with PS3,even mighty GT5 didn't change anything
Not to mention that 360 has one+ year advantage...it is probably still ahead of PS3 in EU otherwise Sony would be talking about it

360 software sales are also good,much better than i expected considering heavy 360 piracy here,2010 difference is like 5 million but large chunk of that goes again to GT5...no other Sony exclusive is even remotely popular as GT5 here,next year will be interesting

At least now we can laugh to shipped (Sony)numbers
 :smug
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 30, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
Nothing wrong with pixel counting if some loser finds the time to do so.

I like it because it deflates the bubble in the Sfag Enron Accounting style sales estimates.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 30, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
I would think the money would be well spent not to waste my time doing that.
Title: Re: December 2010 NPD thread(EU sales numbers inside)
Post by: pilonv1 on January 30, 2011, 09:16:51 PM
:pimp