Does anyone else care?
I think something like Iran is everyone's biggest fear. It just feels a little bit like grandstanding to disparage fundamentalism in other parts of the world when the US is of late as batshit fundie as the rest of em...but at the end of the day, I sincerely hope that the disconnect between the youth and the old guard in America is something that exists in all parts of the world. Maybe I'm just idealistic.
http://www.straight.com/article-370642/vancouver/gwynne-dyer-egyptian-revolution
I watched some animated movie which documented the life of an iranian women who was a child during one of their revolutions. The conclusions she drew is that overthrowing the regime did no good when the country was so uneducated that they thought it was a good idea to elect religious authorities to power who subsequently made the situation a lot worse. Not sure what the situation would be like in Egypt. I imagine much more people are literate now and the youth has more exposure to the outside world through the internet and mass media. Well, HAD internet.
I've just been watching puzzled, wondering where the hell are the black people if that's really Egypt. I didn't take three classes on African studies not to know something about the motherland
I've just been watching puzzled, wondering where the hell are the black people if that's really Egypt. I didn't take three classes on African studies not to know something about the motherland
I'm going to beat you with a stick.
I've just been watching puzzled, wondering where the hell are the black people if that's really Egypt. I didn't take three classes on African studies not to know something about the motherland
You´re from Egypt?
black people are from everywhere and are responsible for everything and this is why I own a gun and two dozen knives
threating.
threating.
Anyone else thinking that we should use this as encouragement to protest and overthrow our capitalist masters here in America. I'm talking of course of those evil Koch brothers. >:(
Those guys really get my panties wad.
Mike Huckabee happens to be travelling in the middle-east during the recent outbreak of unprecedented civil unrest in Egypt. Speaking to the Israeli Knesset, Huckabee said that the situation, if it continues to worsen and destabilizes the middle-east, could "threaten the world and all those who seek peace and security."
I hope whoever becomes the new Egyptian overlords swiftly acts to put the noses back on the Sphinxes
(http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/map.jpg)
Oh, Fox News.
I heard the pyramids kinda suck.
No wonder why they mad.
Anyone else thinking that we should use this as encouragement to protest and overthrow our capitalist masters here in America. I'm talking of course of those evil Koch brothers. >:(
Up until today I've been struggling with whether this is going to go the way of the revolution in Iran in 1979, when millions of people came out on the street and overthrew the Shah -- or protests we all saw in Iran in 2009 when the so called "green revolution" was quickly put down.
But today something happened that I think was very significant.
The Egyptian army went on state television and read a statement in which they said they accepted people's right to peacefully express themselves and that the army would never use force against the Egyptian people.
So the one question that everyone has been asking since the beginning, "what will happen if the army is given the order to fire?" was answered. They will not fire on the people.
So what exactly started all this? Was it just a slow building of tension that has finally overflowed or was there some event in particularly?
So what exactly started all this? Was it just a slow building of tension that has finally overflowed or was there some event in particularly?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Tunisia-to-Egypt-an-Arab-upheaval/articleshow/7382198.cms
Just heard on NPR that Mubarak will leave office at the next election.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JJHYYvC3m0[/youtube]
“They were all out on the streets with weapons,” she said. “They had clubs and swords and pipes. We didn’t know what was going on. We ended up at Tahrir Square because they took a wrong turn.”
They bailed out of the taxi and fled across the river to their hotel. They decided to leave on Sunday.
They found a group of other Westerners and stayed with them. Turned out they were a group of Shell Oil employees who had chartered a flight out of Egypt.
In the end, the two women left Cairo on that flight to Amsterdam.
“We were treated like royalty,” Boyd said.
Shell put the two women up in a hotel in the Netherlands, where they plan to stay until Wednesday when they have a flight home.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JJHYYvC3m0[/youtube]
so what are they actually rioting about, like is it something that actually matters like gay marriage?
Just heard on NPR that Mubarak will leave office at the next election.
Just heard on NPR that Mubarak will leave office at the next election.
:lol
Glenn Beck is generally on some pretty kooky shit but his opinions on Egypt :-\
Glenn Beck is generally on some pretty kooky shit but his opinions on Egypt :-\
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/chris-matthews-on-beck-what-hell-talking_n_818582.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/chris-matthews-on-beck-what-hell-talking_n_818582.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/glenn-beck-egypt-caliphate-conspiracy-theory_n_818564.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/glenn-beck-egypt-caliphate-conspiracy-theory_n_818564.html)
I'm interested in seeing what the crowds will do.
What I'm getting at is instead of this peaceful protesting that they've been doing for over two weeks now, will they get charged up and try to sack the presidential palace?
Caliphate time(http://cdn1.newsone.com/files/2009/12/glen-beck-crying.jpg)
Weird to see the reaction on the right to all this. It's split between those like Beck, who push the Muslim Brotherhood->Caliphate->dhimmitude meme, and politicians like Palin who are vague about the whole thing but certain that Obama somehow didn't handle it right. I think the politicians are hedging because they know Americans will naturally side with protesters over a foreign dictator, so they can't be seen as outright hostile to the demonstrators.(http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2011/02/08/this_modern_world/story.jpg)
It's all a bit funny if you remember the Arab Spring of 2005, when the Cedar Revolution and other potential reforms and liberalizations in the ME (including concessions by Mubarak in Egypt!) were hailed by conservative pundits as unambiguously good things, all spurred by our liberating war in Iraq.
:roflWeird to see the reaction on the right to all this. It's split between those like Beck, who push the Muslim Brotherhood->Caliphate->dhimmitude meme, and politicians like Palin who are vague about the whole thing but certain that Obama somehow didn't handle it right. I think the politicians are hedging because they know Americans will naturally side with protesters over a foreign dictator, so they can't be seen as outright hostile to the demonstrators.(http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2011/02/08/this_modern_world/story.jpg)
It's all a bit funny if you remember the Arab Spring of 2005, when the Cedar Revolution and other potential reforms and liberalizations in the ME (including concessions by Mubarak in Egypt!) were hailed by conservative pundits as unambiguously good things, all spurred by our liberating war in Iraq.
Most members of the GOP have political skills that have atrophied to the point that they can only speak in empty platitudes, a real issue that requires nuance and god forbid, empathy, escapes their skill set. Thus the schizophrenic reaction we're getting now.
Do Egypt's protests mean American decline?
By Michael Gerson
Thursday, February 10, 2011; 8:00 PM
For those who are prone to be prone to such things, recent events in Egypt are further evidence of declining American global influence. President Hosni Mubarak, having taken a lot of American aid, now seems immune to both American advice and pressure. The protesters, one article complained, didn't even bother to burn our flag. We are seeing, according to some observers, a "post-American Middle East."
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Mubarak is such a pussy :lol, let's see how it goes from here, we had a civil war an an American occupation when we took down our last dictator lets hope Egypt haves a smoother process :lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/lara-logan-suffered-bruta_n_823677.html
huffpost is so classy with their "breaking news" logo over the story...
stay classy, Egypt :yuck
stay classy, Egypt :yuck
Yeah, because sexual assault only happens in Egypt :maf
stay classy, Egypt :yuck
Yeah, because sexual assault only happens in Egypt :maf
stay classy, Egypt :yuck
Yeah, because sexual assault only happens in Egypt :maf
Hey, I'll admit that the bar wasn't that high for Egypt, but gang rape and assault of someone who is helping your ostensibly high-minded cause is something of a new low, yes.
egyptians did that? not surprised
It says something about the mob that this was allowed to happen
Ah, I take it all back. Gang-rape and assault is not the real crime here, it is the slightest hint of racism on the internet that deserves the full brunt of our ire. I am putting on my hairshirt and flogging myself with birch right now.
If 200 people had sexually and otherwise physically assaulted her, she'd be dead. The article doesn't suggest that at all. That doesn't make me the slightest bit more sympathetic to those who perpetrated the crime or who allowed it to happen though.
I would hit that like an Egyptian.
I have over 10 friends who marched with the crowds along with their families. So I admit, it's a pretty touchy subject for me :(spoiler (click to show/hide)Those fuckers better not have anything to do with the assault.[close]