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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 07:16:11 PM

Title: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 07:16:11 PM
Liberally grabbed from that other board over on a different internet.

Software (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC)
01. Call of Duty: Black Ops* (360, PS3, WII, NDS, PC) Activision Blizzard (750K) (wonders if is console only)
02. Just Dance 2 (WII) Ubisoft
03. Dead Space 2* (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts (452K) (jaffray says 441K? could be 441 on consoles, 11 on PC? don't know)
04. Little Big Planet 2* (PS3) Sony (353K)
05. Zumba Fitness: Join the Party (WII, 360, PS3) Majesco (>300K)
06. NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, PSP, WII, PS2, PC) Take 2 Interactive
07. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood* (360, PS3) Ubisoft
08. Dance Central (360) MTV Games
09. Michael Jackson The Experience* (WII, DS, PSP) Ubisoft
10. DC Universe Online: The Next Legend Is You* (PS3, PC) Sony  (195K)

Covers 1/2/11 through 1/29/2011

Numbers:

Dead Space 2 -- 452K
Little Big Planet 2 -- 353K
DC Universe Online -- 195K


Xbox 360 - 381K (+15% YOY)
Wii - 319K (-32%)
PS3 - 267K (-3%)

Quote from: Gamasutra
New information trickling out from NPD's monthly game industry report shows sales of both Wii and PS3 hardware declining in January, with the month's top-selling Call of Duty: Black Ops reaching 750,000 sales for the month.

Wedbush Morgan Analyst Michael Pachter told Computer and Video Games that NPD reported 319,000 Wii units sold in January, down 31 percent from the same month in 2010. The PS3 reportedly sold 267,000 units in the month, down 3 percent year-over-year.

Yesterday, Microsoft revealed its Xbox 360 was the only home console to see a year-over-year hardware sales increase in January, with 381,000 units sold representing a 14.4 percent increase over January 2010.

Overall, 10 percent fewer home consoles were sold in January 2011 than the year before, though the distribution of those sales means revenue from hardware sales was only down 4 percent from 2010.

Meanwhile, research notes from Wedbush and Piper Jaffray confirm sales of 750,000 units for January's top-selling Call of Duty: Black Ops, besting last January's top seller, New Super Mario Bros. Wii by roughly 100,000 units

Third-selling Dead Space 2 sold 441,000 units, according to Jaffray, while fifth-selling Zumba Fitness sold "over 300,000" units according to Wedbush.

Outside of the top 10, Jaffray said THQ's uDraw Studio and tablet bundle sold only 26,000 units for the month, this after shipping 1.2 million units to retailers in the last two months of 2010.

Wedbush reports 22 games sold over 100,000 new retail units for the month, beating 18 such titles last January. Despite this increase, overall software revenues for the month were down five percent from 2010

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/33127/Wii_PS3_Sales_Fall_Black_Ops_Sells_750000_In_January.php

Quote from: wedbush
Under one-fifth of PS3 sales included bundles with Sony’s Move controller, suggesting another modest month (we have chosen not to subscribe to peripheral data). Just under three-fifths of Xbox 360 sales included bundles with Microsoft’s Kinect peripheral, as Xbox 360 Kinect console bundles again outsold PS3 Move console bundles by almost 5:1. We note that the top selling Kinect software titles easily outsold their Move counterparts.

Combined next generation home console (PS3, 360, Wii) hardware unit sales were down 10% year-over-year, and handheld hardware unit sales were down 29%, driving overall hardware unit sales down 17% for the month. There were 319,000 Wiis sold (down 31% y-o-y) vs. our 320,000 estimate, 381,000 Xbox 360s sold (up 15% y-o-y) compared to our 380,000 estimate, and 267,000 PS3s sold (down 3% y-o-y) vs. our 240,000 estimate.

Current generation (PS3, Wii, 360, PSP, DS) software sales were $572 million, $52 million above our estimate, while legacy software sales were $4 million, $6 million below our estimate. Wii software sales were $179 million (down 20% y-o-y), Xbox 360 sales were $170 million (up 8%), and PS3 sales were $141 million (up 24%). DS software sales were $72 million (down 13%), while PSP software sales were $10 million (down 37%). The increases in sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 platforms have become the norm, and declines for the other consoles have also become the norm. Over the next year, we expect Wii and DS software sales to continue the negative trend, but anticipate strong sales for Nintendo’s 3DS that should spur overall handheld software sales back into positive territory. We expect PS3 software sales to spike when several high profile releases launch in the coming months, and believe that overall PS3 software sales would benefit immensely from a hardware price cut, expected in June.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Trent Dole on February 17, 2011, 07:18:10 PM
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/fgsfdsfargeg/dick.jpg)
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Beezy on February 17, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
*right click, save image as*
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 17, 2011, 07:19:56 PM
Nice to see DC Universe Online make the list.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
good to see Zumba doing so well
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 17, 2011, 07:21:17 PM
:bow PS3 software outselling 360 software
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 07:22:54 PM
Freshly grabbed dater

Dead Space 2 -- 452K
Little Big Planet 2 -- 353K
DC Universe Online -- 195K
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 07:25:15 PM
oh some numbers

more please
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
january is such a useless month. who cares
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 07:31:34 PM
they are better because dancing skill transfers to real life situations, as opposed to fiddling around with plastic instruments
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 07:32:18 PM
but you also have the fad within a fad of Zumba
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 07:32:20 PM
From Gamasutra

Quote
The NPD Group has announced its tracking results for new U.S. retail video game sales in January, showing overall revenues for the industry dropping 5 percent compared to the same month last year.

New retail sales of video game hardware, software and accessories totaled $1.16 billion for the month. With PC sales excluded, the industry drew a total of $1.14 billion in revenue, down 4 percent from the year before.

Over half of that total came from software sales of $576 million, down 5 percent from January 2009. Overall video game hardware sales of $324 million were off 8 percent from the previous January.

Video game accessories were the only subsegment to see year-over-year revenue growth, increasing 6 percent to $235.1 million for the month. In previous months this sector of the industry has been driven by strong interest in the PlayStation Move and Microsoft Kinect camera-based controllers.

NPD no longer provides specific breakdowns for hardware or software or accessory unit sales to the press.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33046/NPD_Results_January_2011_Industry_Down_5_As_Black_Ops_Maintains_Sales_Lead.php
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
but you also have the fad within a fad of Zumba

21st century gaming baybee. It's all meta
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 07:35:13 PM
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Over half of that total came from software sales of $576 million, down 5 percent from January 2009. Overall video game hardware sales of $324 million were off 8 percent from the previous January.

Everyone goes on about rah rah digital sales when software isn't declining as much as hardware is. People are just moving to other devices for gaming now.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 07:39:10 PM
Quote from: Microsoft PR
Riding the momentum of its biggest year ever, Xbox 360 continued to drive strong console and software sales in the first month of the new year. Sustained consumer demand for Kinect helped propel Xbox 360 as the top selling console in January.

January NPD highlights include:
· Xbox 360 sold 381,000 units in January, up 48,000 units year-over-year. (Source: NPD Group, January 2011)

· Xbox 360 is the only console platform to show year-over-year growth in January at 15 percent. (Source: NPD Group, January 2011)

· Total retail spend on Xbox 360 topped $551 million, making it the top selling console platform for the 10th month in a row. (Source: NPD Group, January 2011)

· During the month of January, four of the top ten console game titles were for Xbox 360 including: “Call of Duty: Black Ops,” “Dead Space 2,”“Dance Central,” and “Kinect Sports.” (Source: NPD Group, January 2011)

Some lingering supply constraints coupled with high consumer demand led to continued pockets of shortages at retail. Microsoft anticipates this trend to improve through February, but will continue to work with retail and manufacturing partners to expedite production and shipments
Title: Re: January NPD thread of no hardware sold until proven otherwise
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2011, 07:53:33 PM
Dead Space 2

:fbm

I think it had a decent sell in to retailers but its tough to perform big numbers in Jan unless you're a really big game. For the quality level though yeah its a bit ashame it didn't do better although its a clear improvement from the first sales wise.

I recommended it to nearly everybody I game with but for some reason none of them were interested. I doubt I will play a better sp game in the first half of the year outside of maybe Dragon Age.   

They should have made Mirrors Edge 2, instead of Dead Space 2.

So they could sell a fraction of that?
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
all those angry mothers stopped their 15 year olds from buying it
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2011, 07:54:28 PM
Littlebigplanet 2 did pretty good for a Sony game.  Should at least sell a million over time and pack-ins.

I'm happy  :-[
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
Dead Space 2 isn't as bad as you guys are making it out to be.  It'll do a million+
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2011, 07:57:59 PM
Well for starters I love Mirrors Edge :)

Dead Space is so unappealing somehow



Mirror's Edge is certainly a very popular forum game (I don't really care for it) but that game has very little mass appeal. I doubt they will bring that back this gen if indeed they ever do.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 07:59:14 PM
What type of game is the Dead Space anyway?
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: ManaByte on February 17, 2011, 08:07:50 PM
Well for starters I love Mirrors Edge :)

Dead Space is so unappealing somehow



Mirror's Edge is certainly a very popular forum game (I don't really care for it) but that game has very little mass appeal. I doubt they will bring that back this gen if indeed they ever do.

DICE showed a Mirror's Edge 2 concept to EA. EA rejected it and told them to focus on Battlefield.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: ManaByte on February 17, 2011, 08:15:03 PM
What type of game is the Dead Space anyway?

The best Alien game ever made.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 08:20:20 PM
What type of game is the Dead Space anyway?

third person shooter/horror. Plays similar to Resident Evil 4/5 if you've played those.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2011, 08:20:26 PM
What type of game is the Dead Space anyway?

The best Alien game ever made.

Pretty much.


Wish they would go ahead and just put in the motion tracker thingy just to complete the effect.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywhhBY-vw2A&feature=related[/youtube]

 
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 17, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
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The best Alien game ever made.

yeah, DS1 was more like Alien and DS2 is more like Aliens and i would JIMP if they were given an Alien franchise title to work on.

YES YES YES.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 08:34:05 PM
Sounds like it.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 17, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
i enjoyed the tension more in the first dead space, and the story a lot more (the more i learn about the "big picture" or whatever the stupider it sounds), but once i let that go i enjoyed dead space 2 for what it really is, a set piece shooter with some great eye candy

probably didn't help that i started ds2 immediately after i'd finished ds1

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i hope they kill isaac out of the blue at some point in ds3 and have you play as someone else from then on
[close]
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Bocsius on February 17, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
Some Sony PR

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-we-have-industrys-strongest-content-lineup/

Quote
"January’s NPD numbers, reflecting a 25% increase in PS3 software sales, demonstrate continued momentum for the PlayStation ecosystem. As the only system with both stereoscopic 3D and precision motion controlled gaming, PlayStation is delivering a new era of immersive entertainment fueled by the industry’s strongest content lineup. Next week, with the arrival of one of the most anticipated titles of the year, Killzone 3, consumers’ expectations for exhilarating 3D graphics and fast-paced PlayStation Move action will be further elevated in living rooms around the world," said Patrick Seybold, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications at SCEA.

No numbers because of, well, pride, I guess.

I didn't realize Killzone 3 had been announced. Oh well. I suppose it will be "big."
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 08:38:11 PM
KZ3 wont break 300k in its first month and won't chart in the second
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2011, 08:39:24 PM
Mirror's Edge would have been cool as a 2 hour downloadable game, not the bloated mess it turned out to be.

I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 08:39:52 PM
same here. When I first started it I was blown away by the presentation and sound design. Then you have to go through the same square levels fighting the same 3 enemies for the next 8 hours

edit: damn you Stoney  :lol I'm talking about Dead Space btw. Mirror'e Edge is a masterpiece
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2011, 08:44:08 PM
same here. When I first started it I was blown away by the presentation and sound design. Then you have to go through the same square levels fighting the same 3 enemies for the next 8 hours

edit: damn you Stoney  :lol I'm talking about Dead Space btw. Mirror'e Edge is a masterpiece

Gotcha bitch!  :D

Hey people have different taste. Dead Space 1 and 2 are two of the best games of this gen for me. No matter how strongly I feel about that its not like I can convince somebody else how awesome those two games are and vice versa they won't be able to convince me to like a game that I didn't like. It's all opinions.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2011, 08:46:27 PM
*high five for being reasonable*
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 17, 2011, 08:49:20 PM
they could have cut out two hours from the first one and made it a better game, that's for sure

second game kind of has the same problem - they just throw waves of legmonsters at you for 10 hours and desensitize you to any of the horror elements (but at least the locations are varied)

i played the first game with my plasma cutter drawn the whole time and creeping around corners, whereas i just ran straight towards the body part army in this one firing the whole time

with the exception of the first ten minutes

spoiler (click to show/hide)
neat set piece where you're running around defenseless trapped in a straight jacket during the initial outbreak
[close]

and a later level

spoiler (click to show/hide)
where - surprise! - you're back on the ship from ds1
[close]

i didn't find this one the least bit scary
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
DCU's numbers don't bode well for its future.

I would say "the PC sales may be ok" but then the PC version was never going to do well.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: archie4208 on February 17, 2011, 11:00:20 PM
At least DCUO can fall back on the F2P model in 9 months.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 17, 2011, 11:57:44 PM
The sony fans didn't have stupid high expectations for LBP2 this time around did they?  I was reminiscing about how the internet was proclaiming the first as the second coming of christ.

Where the hell are the hardware numbers for nintendo, I'm so unsatisfied.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 18, 2011, 02:49:59 AM
Damn right there's not gonna be a Mirror's Edge 2, they never paid me for the first one (that game is the story of my life)
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
still no numbers,what a shitty NPD

Sony PR didn't even mention LBP2,lol
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2011, 07:28:33 AM
Dead Space 2 hit a little softer than I expected.

How is it tracking compared to the first? I can't remember anything about DS1's numbers other than hitting A LOT softer than everyone expected.

I hope it does, even though I think it packs a softer punch compared to the first, I still think it is by far the better game.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: The Sceneman on February 18, 2011, 07:38:38 AM
The first game wiped a lot of haters' buttcracks sales wise, as far as new IPs go it was a smash hit
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 07:50:32 AM
Dead Space 2 hit a little softer than I expected.

How is it tracking compared to the first? I can't remember anything about DS1's numbers other than hitting A LOT softer than everyone expected.

I hope it does, even though I think it packs a softer punch compared to the first, I still think it is by far the better game.
From EA

Quote
Speaking at an investor call today, EA chief operating office John Schappert boasted that the sequel, released last week, "is approaching two million units sold in – double the sell through of the original Dead Space."

DS is 2 million shipped i believe
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 09:23:25 AM
Quote
I expect you will see the PS3 and Wii hardware figures today. (Not from me.)
:bow2

npd :piss2
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: tiesto on February 18, 2011, 09:35:21 AM
Mirror's Edge 1 was an amazing proof of concept, burdened with a few problems (like an unnecessary storyline and frustrating combat). A sequel that fixes the flaws would be legendary.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2011, 10:07:16 AM
Mirror's Edge 1 was an amazing proof of concept, burdened with a few problems (like an unnecessary storyline and frustrating combat). A sequel that fixes the flaws would be legendary.

The only problem I really had with the storyline in Mirrors Edge were the awful Esurance flash cutscenes, the "in-game" cutscenes were just fine.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
The logical place for a game like ME to go would be to open world, which I REALLLLLLY don't want.

A minor degree of open-world could be pretty cool, as in each level has multiple paths that can be taken.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2011, 10:19:30 AM
It already did that.

In a very, very restricted way, perhaps.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 18, 2011, 10:33:23 AM
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"January's NPD numbers, reflecting a 25 percent increase in PS3 software sales, demonstrate continued momentum for the PlayStation ecosystem," said Patrick Seybold, senior director of corporate communications at SCEA, according to IndustryGamers.

"As the only system with both stereoscopic 3D and precision motion controlled gaming, PlayStation is delivering a new era of immersive entertainment fuelled by the industry's strongest content lineup."

He added: "Next week, with the arrival of one of the most anticipated titles of the year, Killzone 3, consumers' expectations for exhilarating 3D graphics and fast-paced PlayStation Move action will be further elevated in living rooms around the world."

Not just a family but an ecosystem

:bow2
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 18, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
So in other words, Dead Space 2 is going to drop to $19.99 by this summer just like the first one. 

I guess I should've waited.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 18, 2011, 10:46:03 AM
Oh yeah, Move.  Again outsold 5:1 by Kinect.

That ecosystem of theirs is getting kind of rank.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2011, 10:51:55 AM
Ecosystem :lol
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Pachter  :bow2

ecosystem>family

Killzone 3 ad
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJIWVIZhEZw[/youtube]


some numbers are popping out

Black ops: 750,000
Zumba: 300,000
Just Dance: 500,000



Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Brehvolution on February 18, 2011, 12:58:03 PM
3cosystem :lol

Fixed and a missed opportunity for Sony.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 01:20:21 PM
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Current generation (PS3, Wii, 360, PSP, DS) software sales were $572 million, $52 million above our estimate, while legacy software sales were $4 million, $6 million below our estimate. Wii software sales were $179 million (down 20% y-o-y), Xbox 360 sales were $170 million (up 8%), and PS3 sales were $141 million (up 24%). DS software sales were $72 million (down 13%), while PSP software sales were $10 million (down 37%). The increases in sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 platforms have become the norm, and declines for the other consoles have also become the norm. Over the next year, we expect Wii and DS software sales to continue the negative trend, but anticipate strong sales for Nintendo’s 3DS that should spur overall handheld software sales back into positive territory. We expect PS3 software sales to spike when several high profile releases launch in the coming months, and believe that overall PS3 software sales would benefit immensely from a hardware price cut, expected in June.

PSP software=$10 million

Western devs must be like...PSP2?errrrrrr,hmmm,cough cough
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 02:39:50 PM
new data,thanks to Mr. RSTEIN from gaf

Quote
From Wedbush

There were 22 games that sold over 100,000 units in January, vs. our estimate of 16 games and 18 last year.

Call of Duty: Black Ops sold half of our estimate of 1.5 million units
Call of Duty: Black Ops = 0.5 x 1.5 = 750,000

Guitar Hero (and other Hero music games) sales were down 56% from last year.

Rock Band sales were down 80% to $2 million.

Zumba Fitness over 300,000 units.

Donkey Kong Country Returns roughly one-third of our estimate of 500,000 units
Donkey Kong Country Returns = 0.33 x 500,000 = 165,000
SORRY GAF EARLIER I READ THIS AS TWO-THIRDS

uDraw sold well below estimate of 300,000 units

Just Dance 2 sold over half of our estimate of 1 million units.
Just Dance 2 = 500,000 (although we don't know what "over half" means. Unsure about this one?


Quote
Piper Jaffray

Call of Duty: Black Ops sold 750k units and held the #1 position for the month

Dead Space 2 = 441k units (different than the number in the OP)

uDraw Studio & Tablet = 26k

NBA 2K11 = 261k units

Red Dead Redemption = 94k


We believe there is a 50/50 chance that GTA V will make it into the FY12 period
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
that makes no sense, if anything the PS3 would be a cloud over a pond
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 18, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
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Rock Band sales were down 80% to $2 million

 :lol


I hate to be mean but all the nerd gamer hype behind 3 is kinda laughable in retrospect. Nobody even talks about that title anymore.

Edit: Also kinda shows how hypocritical the media is. That game had a crazy high metacritic score but I notice very few media outlets gave it nominations for GOTY because the genre is dying. Which kinda makes no sense as the two have no correlation to each otheer.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 18, 2011, 05:03:06 PM
Killzone 3 ad
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJIWVIZhEZw[/youtube]

That Killzone 3 ad is shit.  I don't mind Kevin Butler but for a game like Killzone 3, Sony really needs to take a page out of MS/Bungie's book and learn how to make a kick ass commercial.

Compare that to this -

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]

THAT'S how you do it.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 18, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
[youtube=560,345]EjDuHnwrvw0[/youtube]
Title: Re: January NPD thread of they sold 360s, that much we know
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2011, 05:44:29 PM
i like how they have some small print there

If someone shows that to some "normal" person he(she) will be like "yeah,I was 5 year old once"
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Bocsius on February 18, 2011, 06:30:48 PM
Home from work, OP updated with Wii and PS3 hardware.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 18, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
now that Killzone3 and LBP2 are out, where should yearofps3.com point
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 18, 2011, 07:29:55 PM
wait for price drop and then point it at the amazon.com ps3 page.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 18, 2011, 07:55:42 PM
now that Killzone3 and LBP2 are out, where should yearofps3.com point

http://www.pcworld.com/article/220021/playstation_4_not_coming_anytime_soon.html
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: ManaByte on February 18, 2011, 08:25:45 PM
Good. We don't need any new consoles yet.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Bocsius on February 18, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Added more text to OP. Wedbush threw out 750K as the number for COD but curiously 441K for Dead Space 2. Makes me wonder if those are console only numbers and, if so, if Dead Space 2 sold just 11K on PC. Presumably one or two other people, um, rented it... digitally... for free... and never returned it.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2011, 09:17:02 PM
now that Killzone3 and LBP2 are out, where should yearofps3.com point

Halo 4
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 18, 2011, 10:20:55 PM
now that Killzone3 and LBP2 are out, where should yearofps3.com point

http://askabiologist.asu.edu/sites/default/files/image/article/2009/ecosystems_header.jpg
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Bocsius on February 18, 2011, 10:29:36 PM
now that Killzone3 and LBP2 are out, where should yearofps3.com point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5ob9B9yD4
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: The Sceneman on February 18, 2011, 11:16:31 PM
lmfao @ Ecosystem.

Sony PR = #1
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 19, 2011, 09:26:20 AM
The real year of the PS3 is off to a slow start.

I guess it must be all that insider trading doing irreparable harm :'(
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 19, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
too bad, it's definitely a system worth owning now

it's almost like sony can't stand seeing themselves making a smart move, so they stumble right in to fuck it up immediately afterwards
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 19, 2011, 06:45:31 PM
The ps3 only has a notable advantage in non UK european countries and Japan.  Neither are going to be enough for it to catch the 360 ltd. 
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 19, 2011, 07:21:31 PM
The ps3 only has a notable advantage in non UK european countries and Japan.  Neither are going to be enough for it to catch the 360 ltd. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29#Sales_standings

this wikipedia article shows the 360 with ~50m to date and PS3 with ~47.9m
to say the PS3 couldn't catch up is pretty naive. i would say it's fairly likely even.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 19, 2011, 08:07:29 PM
360 rebirth? are you fukkin jokin?  :lol
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: pilonv1 on February 19, 2011, 08:41:17 PM
The 360's rebirth in the US is going to make it difficult, though.  Very, very difficult.  I think the PS3's had its best year, unless Sony's got something more amazing than sequels to stuff that didn't do shit the first time up its sleeve.

PS3 is now the Gamecube with some real third party support. It's a great machine if you want to play Sony first party titles, but if you have no interest in them buy a 360.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 19, 2011, 09:05:53 PM
The PS 3 may or may not catch the 360 worldwide. My guess is it probably will but I highly doubt it will in the United States and the lead has only been increasing within the last year or so. The 360 has established itself right now as the default hd system of choice in America and dominates with the leading genre preference for the hardcore demo of shooters.

The PS3 is over that catastraophic failure portion of its lifetime but this is clearly not how this gen was supposed to go for Sony. 3rd in America. Battling 360 for ww numbers. And way behind the Wii. It's been a big fall from them. Which drives the Methodis types of the world to stupid posting.

On a preference level the Ps3 is a perfectly fine system. The reality is I'm perfectly fine with my 360 and PC so I have no desire or need for a PS3 but certainly I could see why somebody else would feel differently if they particuarily liked certain Sony franchises.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 19, 2011, 11:14:11 PM
The PS3 will surpass the 360 in sales simply because Microsoft will move onto the next Xbox faster than Sony will move to the PS4 (if they even make one).

I don't know. There is this perception that MS will drop the 360 before Sony and let it languish but I'm not sure that is the case. I mean I think they will launch their next gen system before Sony but MS has good reason to want this gen to go on for as long as possible.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2011, 11:27:26 PM
The PS3 will surpass the 360 in sales simply because Microsoft will move onto the next Xbox faster than Sony will move to the PS4 (if they even make one).

I don't know. There is this perception that MS will drop the 360 before Sony and let it languish but I'm not sure that is the case. I mean I think they will launch their next gen system before Sony but MS has good reason to want this gen to go on for as long as possible.

Agreed. The 360 is THE console right now, and with HDTV ownership increasing there's no hurry to jump into another expensive tech race.

If the PS3 winds up surpassing the 360 sales wise it'll be because of Europe/Japan, where it has a popularity lead. But those markets aren't bigger than the US obviously so yea..
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 19, 2011, 11:29:17 PM
In the PlayStation ecosystem, the PS3 to Sony is nothing more than an Exxon-Valdez or BP sized spill: embarrassing, expensive, and can't be done away with soon enough.

I'd also say that given that the 360 system is the only one that is seeing positive YOY while being in 1st place, it is most definitely getting a second wind.  The PS3 will never reach the 360 in the US and is sketchy at best worldwide.  With my insider trading knowledge, I have my doubts that Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 will light up the sales charts the way they need to in order to kickstart a similar second wind for the PS3.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2011, 11:59:57 PM
KZ3 and U3 will sell better than their predecessors because there are more PS3s out there, but ultimately they won't change anything. Black Ops is the premier shooter right now, and most people I talk to haven't been blown away by the KZ3 beta

Sony entered the next gen banking on all their old franchises mimicking the success they had on the PS2 and it just hasn't happened. God of War 3, MGS4, and especially GT5 did nothing to give the PS3 the momentum it needed to surpass the 360, whereas Halo exploded 360 sales.

It's hard to argue the PS3 isn't a disaster for Sony. They banked on it being a trojan horse for living rooms. And while blu ray is a success it has little to do with the PS3
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 20, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Microsoft will launch next gen first simply because they did this generation and it's the reason they're on top.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Diunx on February 20, 2011, 12:09:23 AM
PS3 sales actually increased the month MGS4 released :smug
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 20, 2011, 01:29:12 AM
Well yea but I'm talking about significant sales growth, not a month or two then nothing
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2011, 04:23:06 AM
Sequels won't help anything,they already have their audience so they will sell about the same or underperform,talking about ltd
They might perform better in opening NPD month because more of the same people will decide to buy it new,released in different month,more days tracked,etc
Market is getting saturated with games,lots of cheap used games,huge backlogs,etc


100% sure that MS won't make the first step(but will follow),360 launched at $300-$400 and had just $100 price drop
In January Kinect bundles were about 3/5 of total 360 sales.Their price is $300-$400...
Combine that with low 360 inventory and you will see that price drop is nowhere near,maybe in November

Then they will have big "core" exclusive hits,Gears,some new Halo,Forza,probably something else too+plus tons of exclusive Kinect stuff(Japanese +Western "core" Kinect games)+Kinect mainstream games+big third party games that sell much better on xbawks(COD,Skyrim,Saints Row 3,etc),those games will probably get some timed exclusive content

xbawks will be a very tough opponent this fall,even without a price drop
we all know how casual family friendly things perform during the holidays and Kinect is like a definition of casual family friendly

One other thing,I was listening to Giant Bombcast,Jeff and Ryan were at DICE and developers said to them that Kinect can track fingers now
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 20, 2011, 07:04:54 AM
The ps3 only has a notable advantage in non UK european countries and Japan.  Neither are going to be enough for it to catch the 360 ltd. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29#Sales_standings

this wikipedia article shows the 360 with ~50m to date and PS3 with ~47.9m
to say the PS3 couldn't catch up is pretty naive. i would say it's fairly likely even.

And what sir is going to get it there?  Best case scenario is that microsoft kills their console again when moving to the next one.  Sony has released all their big guns with maybe the exception of twisted metal (Lulz), so nothing outside of a pricedrop is going to matter.  Microsoft can do that too.   Speaking of which Nintendo needs to get on that.  Wii not being at most 150 by this point is baffling.  Maybe they need to go as low as 99 in japan.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2011, 07:39:13 AM
Nintendo reports show that they can be hit pretty hard with exchange rates,that tells that Wii is not exactly highly profitable anymore(in the West at least).And that is kinda surprising,Sony is making lots of money with cheap PS2.

Wii slim?they can always reduce internal components but they need to invest money.They could be doing something silently but it's nothing big for sure,tech sites would talk about it...in units that are out now 
Wii Slim would spur some sales definitely

Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 20, 2011, 09:01:03 AM
They mishandled the Move launch, for sure.  They've got a decent piece of hardware, very accurate, and kept harping the whole time about it being more for core players.  Then they launch it with a Wii Sports knockoff in the box.  Now, it's a good game, but at first glance that's exactly what it is - a knockoff.  What should have been in the box is a hybrid disc - say, three of the sports from Sports Champions, a short shooter similar to Modern Combat, and a puzzle/drawing game of some sort. Show the variety, something for everyone.  All the retail launch games were Wii derivative.  Everything interesting was something you had to seek out and download, and none of that had any promotion.   And they should have taken the hit and included a navigation controller in the box, but instead decided that no matter what customers bought they were still going to have to buy something extra for a complete experience.  They're catching up to their initial "core" promise with KZ3, Socom 4, etc, but it was certainly a sloppy launch.  Even their Move web page is half-assed and lacking in real information.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 20, 2011, 09:08:23 AM
The ps3 only has a notable advantage in non UK european countries and Japan.  Neither are going to be enough for it to catch the 360 ltd. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29#Sales_standings

this wikipedia article shows the 360 with ~50m to date and PS3 with ~47.9m
to say the PS3 couldn't catch up is pretty naive. i would say it's fairly likely even.

And what sir is going to get it there?  Best case scenario is that microsoft kills their console again when moving to the next one.  Sony has released all their big guns with maybe the exception of twisted metal (Lulz), so nothing outside of a pricedrop is going to matter.  Microsoft can do that too.   Speaking of which Nintendo needs to get on that.  Wii not being at most 150 by this point is baffling.  Maybe they need to go as low as 99 in japan.

Baffling? Exchange rates. See also: POS 2012 Honda Civic
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 20, 2011, 12:07:40 PM
Also taking into account that Sony is about $5 billion in the red overall on the PS3 while the 360 went into the black about a couple of years ago, even with the RROD debacle.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on February 20, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
The revisionist history from the Sony camp is hilarious.  Shane Bettenhausen is always talking about how the PS3 is doing great, according to Sony's 10 year plan.  But who, including Sony, would have thought that in 2011, it would still be 3rd overall and a distant 3rd in the US?

The ps3 only has a notable advantage in non UK european countries and Japan.  Neither are going to be enough for it to catch the 360 ltd. 

Worldwide numbers are overrated anyway.  Because of how demographic sales work in videogames, it's always better to secure a strong 1st or 2nd in a major market than to be moderately strong in all regions.  It's why the Genesis and Xbox did so well compared to something like the Gamecube which had more popularity worldwide. 
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 20, 2011, 02:35:50 PM
Xbox was always slightly ahead of the gamecube. I think the gamecube barely beat it in the end, but it was into the first years of the 360.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 20, 2011, 02:39:08 PM
And a wii slim is not going to fix the primary problem with the platform that Nintendo perceives.  They are well aware that a lack of high profile software releases are hurting the awareness of the console.  They just don't have the manpower to fill out the schedule and third parties have left in mass exodus. 
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2011, 03:10:53 PM
There was one eastern europe forum that i used to read a lot for laughing purposes,one dude there said something like "my best part of the day is when I come home from work and read what has been written here,lol"

Some(lots) people there were like dead serious that MS will announce new console in 2007 because PS3 will crush them in like a month and they were not just some teens arguing,something like 20-40+ people.And they wrote long readable posts like they are some Sony PR,conspiracy theories,Japan supremacy,etc you could read anything there...fun times
They backpedaled a lot now,but Western anti-PS3 conspiracy is still to blame 
10 year plan is dropped now though and mobile phones will never  have PSP2 graphics,3DS is a toy



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And a wii slim is not going to fix the primary problem with the platform that Nintendo perceives.

I was thinking more about cheaper unit to produce,higher profits for Nintendo,greater price drop flexibility.I think that Wii will still sell a lot in years to come,especially during holidays.If Nintendo can make $99 Wii that still has a decent profit...win




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Post by: originalz on February 20, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
I thought that it would literally be impossible to make a slim version of the Wii, people have opened it up and there's really not much they can do with it, maybe remove the Gamecube support but it would be such a minor reduction that it probably wouldn't be worth the loss (at least with the DSi you got new features to make up for the GBA slot).  Nintendo isn't known for console re-releases anyway, other than a new color.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: maxy on February 21, 2011, 10:45:29 AM
As usual,gamasutra analysis

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/6292/npd_behind_the_numbers_january_.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/6292/npd_behind_the_numbers_january_.php)

Some very interesting data

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When we looked at hardware prices for October 2010, the average price of the Xbox 360 was $256, suggesting that consumers favored the $300 Xbox 360 model over the $200 model.

With the launch of Kinect in November, that price rose about $25 to $281. As of January, the average Xbox 360 is selling for around $306, according to official NPD Group data.

That means that any significance of the price differential has actually disappeared in the more recent months, the ones in which the Xbox 360 has been outperforming the PS3 Slim in seasonally comparable months.

360 is getting more and more expensive and yet is sells more


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According to data provided by the NPD Group, the top-selling Move-required title in January 2011 was The Fight: Lights Out, a game in which the Move controls are used for fist fighting. With Fight sales of only 16,000 units for the month

no comment


Something for Kosma :P
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PSP software is making 1.7% of the overall video game software market


PS2 is finally out
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The venerable PlayStation 2 has finally ceased to be relevant to the industry's new retail sales, where it accounted for only 1.5% of all hardware unit sales in January and a mere 0.7% of software revenue. (If we're more generous and look only at consoles, then its software share rises to 0.8%.) 

Did a little "research"(few clicks) about December ASP,found this...will leave it here

(http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/2484/npdj.jpg)
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 21, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
PS2 is finally out
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The venerable PlayStation 2 has finally ceased to be relevant to the industry's new retail sales, where it accounted for only 1.5% of all hardware unit sales in January and a mere 0.7% of software revenue. (If we're more generous and look only at consoles, then its software share rises to 0.8%.) 

The King is dead. Long live the King.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2011, 01:40:27 PM
Gametrailers invisible walls :-*

(http://oi51.tinypic.com/cj669.jpg)

Some info,numbers

-Just Dance 2...563k
-LBP2...353k
-Dead Space 2(360)...300k
-Mass Effect 2(PS3)...76k
-Halo Reach LTD........4.4 mill
-Zumba Fitness(Wii)...243k
-Wii Fit at 11...152k
-EA Sports Active 2...little lower

-Just Dance 2 LTD...3.6 mill,close to $100 mill in revenue
-COD:BO 11.7 mill units LTD...across 360 and PS3
-Dance Central,Kinect Sports...1.2 million LTD

-Donkey Kong about 2 million LTD
-Kirby is at 0.5 million
-Link's Crossbow Training + Wii Zapper...3.3 million LTD

-DC Universe Online(PS3) at 13...144k
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: iconoclast on March 06, 2011, 01:54:32 PM
Dark times...
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 06, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
its crazy how big those dance games are getting.  Has Just Dance 2 outsold the latest Assassins Creed?
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 06, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
Fitness games aren't usually done in company.  Its more like they are cheap alternatives to gym memberships/home equipment.  I like wii fit plus myself because the few spurts of weeks I've gone to the gym were super boring.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 06, 2011, 05:25:43 PM
As far as I know Just Dance has been more popular in Euroland than in America. 

It's pretty popular here too. I just visited some casual cousins who had alot of these dance games. That Michael Jackson one. Dance Central, etc.

Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: Purple Filth on March 06, 2011, 05:32:29 PM
Dancing games are a good laugh.

76k for ME2 on PS3, is this the first month?

Yep

Same with rest of the year old $60 ports
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: pilonv1 on March 06, 2011, 05:58:45 PM
As far as I know Just Dance has been more popular in Euroland than in America. 

This is certainly true.
Title: Re: January NPD thread of year of PS3 (take 5) starts slowly
Post by: maxy on March 07, 2011, 04:28:55 AM
Just Dance is very popular in UK

January UK top 10

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1 [WII] Just Dance 2 - 95,000
2 [PS3] LittleBigPlanet 2 - 88,000
3 [WII] Wii Fit Plus - 65,000
4 [360] Call of Duty: Black Ops - 52,000
5 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 - 50,000
6 [360] Kinect Sports - 49,000
7 [360] FIFA 11 - 48,000
8 [360] Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood - 41,000
9 [360] Dead Space 2 - 39,000
10 [NDS] Art Academy - 38,000