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Title: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 07, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1966/v4mam.gif)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 07, 2011, 02:27:17 PM
:rock

Fuck whoever is trying to rain on this parade, haters take your bubububutthurtedness elsewhere!

:bow Dragon Effect 2 :bow2

Edit: props to whoever made the OP.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 07, 2011, 02:29:20 PM
My copy should be here wednesday

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Sponsored by GameFly
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: iconoclast on March 07, 2011, 02:38:42 PM
I don't think Gamefly sent me a copy :(

Oh well, now I'll really wait for the complete edition.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 07, 2011, 02:39:53 PM
I want to be a dragon.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 07, 2011, 02:40:49 PM
I didnt play any of DAO DLC... all of it is wank anyway. Pass on nickle diming schemes.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 07, 2011, 02:40:54 PM
I want to be a dragon.

Then play Divinity 2.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: bork on March 07, 2011, 02:58:21 PM
I haven't been following this game since I still have yet to play the original (waiting for my new PC to play it; if it's still running shitty on there, will just play on 360).  Is the PC version also more action-oriented?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 07, 2011, 03:46:16 PM
PC combat is the same except sped up and the removal of the isometric view (which sucksssssssssssssssss)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 07, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
removal of the isometric view (which sucksssssssssssssssss)

Wait a week or two, someone will probably have released a mod that puts it back in by then.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 07, 2011, 03:48:20 PM
I'll buy it when a nude mod for Isabella comes out.  :smug
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 07, 2011, 03:49:04 PM
I'll buy it when a nude mod for Isabella comes out.  :smug

Like I said, wait a week or two.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 07, 2011, 04:11:19 PM
Isabella is the first video game character i am sexually attracted to.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 07, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/mll47n.gif)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 07, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
u KNOW i mad
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 07, 2011, 08:43:01 PM
I dont like the direction the series is going however i am like the only person who played the original game in isometric mode so i am in the minority.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 07, 2011, 09:37:46 PM
I'm about 4 hours into Drakensang and it's more fun than Dragon Age. REAL TALK
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 08, 2011, 12:54:38 AM
I imagine I will enjoy it, but less than DA:O.  Don't really like the changes to skills and such, and while the combat animations are better I find the increased gore kind of like Bush doubling down on Rumsfeld-Cheney after it should have been obvious they were distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 08, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
[youtube=560,345]pPUvRl97DTw[/youtube]

Evilbore GOTY.  :bow2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 08, 2011, 11:49:48 AM
lol at evilbore having OT threads now. dumb but whatever.


Anyway I put two hours into this last night. Seems okay so far although there were a couple of things that bugged me and it starts off very slow. Too slow imo. I'll put in a good solid evening on it today and give better impressions this evening. Playing on hard.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 08, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
[youtube=560,345]pPUvRl97DTw[youtube]

Evilbore GOTY.  :bow2
:lol

it's like the gay version of a hokey Spanish soap opera.


"But I'm still a man, don't expect me to resist forever"

:bow :bow
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 08, 2011, 12:45:55 PM
reviews are up

Eurogamer – 8
RPGSite – 80 percent
Strategy Informer – 8.5
Joystiq – 4/5
Videogamer – 7
Game Informer – 7.75 (PC), 8.25 (Console)
IGN – 8.5
CVG – 9
Gamespot - 8
1up - B+
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 08, 2011, 12:47:50 PM
Quote
Game Informer – 7.75 (PC), 8.25 (Console)

:lol
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 08, 2011, 12:50:51 PM
PC gamers have higher standards.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 08, 2011, 12:52:01 PM
Quote
Game Informer – 7.75 (PC), 8.25 (Console)

:lol


that makes me :dizzy

it's like GI lives in opposite land
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 08, 2011, 02:17:31 PM
reviews are up

Eurogamer – 8
RPGSite – 80 percent
Strategy Informer – 8.5
Joystiq – 4/5
Videogamer – 7
Game Informer – 7.75 (PC), 8.25 (Console)
IGN – 8.5
CVG – 9
Gamespot - 8
1up - B+

those are rather low.  What do they cite as the major problems?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 08, 2011, 02:22:36 PM
reviews are up

Eurogamer – 8
RPGSite – 80 percent
Strategy Informer – 8.5
Joystiq – 4/5
Videogamer – 7
Game Informer – 7.75 (PC), 8.25 (Console)
IGN – 8.5
CVG – 9
Gamespot - 8
1up - B+

those are rather low.  What do they cite as the major problems?

Quote from: IGN
Every modification to the gameplay and structure of Dragon Age II is a clear improvement over the previous game. The combat is more responsive and bloody, you don’t need to fight the inventory system anymore, and conversations are more engaging thanks to the adapted Mass Effect wheel. There are downsides though; the semi-linear story and repetitive environments have a negative effect on what is otherwise a great role-playing game. Despite these complaints, Dragon Age II is a game I’m eager to replay.

Quote from: Gamespot
The Good
Player choice manifests itself in interesting ways   Spectacular writing and voice acting bring each character to life   Fascinating world characterized by moral ambiguity   Combat is fun, fast-paced, and colorful   Great symphonic soundtrack.

The Bad
Main story lacks focus and drive   Multiple elements have been inexplicably simplified over the original   Long loading times and technical stutters.

Quote from: 1Up
Though I generally enjoyed Dragon Age 2 (enough to go for another playthrough), it's an enjoyment with significant caveats. It really seems like the biggest mistake is calling it "DA2," as it's just different enough from Dragon Age: Origins to not feel like a sequel, but more like a reboot. The different main character, the faster and more streamlined combat, and the overall structure makes it feel like a fine Dragon Age adventure, but not a direct follow-up to DAO. Ultimately, Dragon Age: Origins felt like a modern high-definition callback to the glory days of Infinity Engine RPGs -- it was a decidedly PC-centric game that got a sloppy port to the consoles. Dragon Age 2, by comparison, feels like a new console-focused action-RPG that should have been called something like "Dragon Age: The Hawkening" instead.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Himu on March 08, 2011, 02:24:32 PM
I dont like the direction the series is going however i am like the only person who played the original game in isometric mode so i am in the minority.

trust me, you aren't.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 08, 2011, 02:29:41 PM
So basically "it plays better, is better, neener neener" - yep, that's a negative.

Got some jilted muhfukas up in hurr
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: bork on March 08, 2011, 03:07:48 PM
Does anything from the original game even carry over?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 08, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
Does anything from the original game even carry over?

Yes the world state carries over if you have a save. Or you can just set the ending you got in the original game at the character creation screen at the beginning of the game.  But its not a huge deal.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 08, 2011, 05:30:49 PM
My Hawke > Your Hawke

[timg]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576664839901100932/6451A5A5065C913E51B9D8AB9B71255C51E12D52/[/timg]

:fbm:
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 08, 2011, 05:31:00 PM
woops

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576664839901100932/6451A5A5065C913E51B9D8AB9B71255C51E12D52/)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 08, 2011, 11:04:02 PM
Okay I've put in enough hours to make some comments. Still relatively early story wise in the game and leveling up.

Things I like
* Game looks better than DA:Origins. Still not a great looking game but animation wise and texture wise its better than Origins for the most part. It also runs extremely well on my machine although like I said, the game isn't amazing looking or anything.
* Speed of combat. The faster pace of the combat is much better. Some battles really dragged in Origins.
* The production values are really high. Better than origins.


Things I don't like
* Lots of enemies in combat that just teleport in from nowhere. This seems to happen a lot more than in Origins from what I remember. It's annoying to take a position for combat and then have enemies spawning behind you in waves. Feels cheap.
* Upgrading your companions equipment has been streamlined. I preferred being able to upgrade them in Origins as it sort of turns that upgrading process into a diablo style reward mechanic that is constantly happening. They've changed the way you upgrade the equipment of your team so that it occurs less often and in some cases much less.
* Don't really like most of my party members so far compared to origins. They seem kind of boring compared to origins although I'm still early so maybe as I found out more about them and recruit more they will become more interesting but not so much right now.
* The story at least early on hasn't hooked me like origins did.

Playing on hard as an archer. Not too difficult so far. I had trouble in one specific area but then I realized all I had to do was retreat and make the enemies come to me and pick them off rather than just stay in the same room as they keep respawning. That strategy has worked in nearly every situation now.

So still early. I'll post more detailed thoughts as I go on. 
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 09, 2011, 12:43:28 AM
The game is so rushed lol.  Everythign reeks of unpolish.  Boss fights are so easy, you just run around in circles while the rest of your team kills him.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 09, 2011, 12:58:10 AM
I upped the difficulty to hard from normal because it's been stupid easy so far.  Slightly more challenging so far.  I'm pretty much with Stoney on most of what he said, although I do like the dwarf and the crazy autistic elf chick.  Fenris is super lame, however.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: iconoclast on March 09, 2011, 01:11:39 AM
you just run around in circles while the rest of your team kills him.

sounds like Dragon Age alright
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 09, 2011, 03:14:25 AM
this game will look like absolue dogshit one moment

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577791198369945550/E72D62AF972F0FAB95B64415DE46A5EE5AEA67C3/)

and pretty decent the next

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577791198369951484/A45BD1D0DBC12A119530D134749F4B5C72593F9D/)

but hoboken hawk will still go on finding the lost cat of a homosexual

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577791198369957405/ABA535423FC915BE0A709E69CCA3BF4B31549025/)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 09, 2011, 09:04:41 AM
that looks like my old boss from the comic shop back in the 90s

he was from the outer banks of north carolina and had a weird accent - like, he would pronounce "out" as "ite" and "yard" as "yord"

"check it ite, i'm goin' iteside in the yord."

pretend hoboken hawk has that accent
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: tiesto on March 09, 2011, 09:09:29 AM
I didn't know they are still making PS2 games?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 09, 2011, 09:13:25 AM
Is it so hard to resize the pics, methodis.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 09, 2011, 11:55:49 AM
yes I don't have a image program
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 09, 2011, 11:58:03 AM
Get one
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 09, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
I was playing DA1 and having a good time enjoying the relative obtuseness of it all, then I moved to DA2 and it's like I'm playing a totally unrelated Game Republic game  :-\
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 09, 2011, 01:40:26 PM
i watched the quicklook for this and i actually enjoyed what i saw. looks a lot like mass effect 2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 10, 2011, 12:48:51 PM
I've played a healthy portion of this now and I will say I think it's a step down unfortunately from origins. Its okay. I mean its not painful to play or anything but its just not the game for me that origins was.

And this has less to do with streamlining in most cases and more to do with how fast they turned this one around. The short dev turnaround time between this and origins shows. The game simply doesn't have the breath of content that the last one did and that hurts the game. I'm seeing a lot of repeating dungeons and just sloppy work that indicate this game was rushed and its hurting my overall enjoyment. The story isn't compelling to me so far. Maybe (hopefully?) that will change as I play more. Origins was years in the making and it felt that way. This doesn't. It doesn't feel "epic"....at least yet. To be fair I honestly don't know how far into the main game I really am at this moment. I would guess not that much but this game sure starts slow.

Also

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I think its really dumb that the game immediately makes you start saving 50 bucks for the expedition. That makes me feel like I shouldn't spend any money for the early part of the game which is a bad design decision
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 10, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
DA2: by Fat Fanfic Girls, for Fat Fanfic Girls

(http://i.imgur.com/xyouD.png)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2011, 02:06:05 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 10, 2011, 02:14:03 PM
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110113213141/dragonage/images/thumb/1/14/Merrill-Cleaned.png/528px-Merrill-Cleaned.png)

EXPLORING DIFFERENT STANDARDS OF BEAUTY
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2011, 02:18:02 PM
"Am I kawaii? Uguu~"
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 10, 2011, 02:21:07 PM
remember, Bioware has the gall to make fun of JRPGs
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 10, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pvnfl.png)

What kind of Satanic pact did Bioware agree to when developing Baldur's Gate 2? 
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Trent Dole on March 10, 2011, 04:04:39 PM
Yikes, further proof that developers should stay the fuck away from forums their consumers/fans post on.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2011, 04:14:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pvnfl.png)

What kind of Satanic pact did Bioware agree to when developing Baldur's Gate 2? 

That would be James Ohlen who made the pact. He's currently busy wasting his career on Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 10, 2011, 05:35:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pvnfl.png)

What kind of Satanic pact did Bioware agree to when developing Baldur's Gate 2? 

That would be James Ohlen who made the pact. He's currently busy wasting his career on Star Wars: The Old Republic.

"I need you to go to Tosche Station and pick up [Power Converter] x5"

spoiler (click to show/hide)
"Then we can fuck."
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Third on March 10, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
DA Origins is one of the worst games I've played this gen. And I usually like wrpg's. This one even looks uglier somehow. Bioware literally pooped this one too fast out. Not touching this.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 10, 2011, 08:22:29 PM
Well stay away from this game.  They literally used the same 10 dungeons 200 times this game with closed doors blocking pathways to amke ti seem like a new dungeon.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: maxy on March 11, 2011, 04:03:36 AM
I've played a healthy portion of this now and I will say I think it's a step down unfortunately from origins. Its okay. I mean its not painful to play or anything but its just not the game for me that origins was.

And this has less to do with streamlining in most cases and more to do with how fast they turned this one around. The short dev turnaround time between this and origins shows. The game simply doesn't have the breath of content that the last one did and that hurts the game. I'm seeing a lot of repeating dungeons and just sloppy work that indicate this game was rushed and its hurting my overall enjoyment. The story isn't compelling to me so far. Maybe (hopefully?) that will change as I play more. Origins was years in the making and it felt that way. This doesn't. It doesn't feel "epic"....at least yet. To be fair I honestly don't know how far into the main game I really am at this moment. I would guess not that much but this game sure starts slow.

Also

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I think its really dumb that the game immediately makes you start saving 50 bucks for the expedition. That makes me feel like I shouldn't spend any money for the early part of the game which is a bad design decision
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Dragon Age II composer Inon Zur,talking about the score

Quote
I'm actually really anxious for the game right now, so I can pop it in and start playing. I'm really looking forward to see it. I know there are a few bugs that still need to be fixed. Unlike other titles from Bioware, this [score] was kind of a rush job. EA really wanted to capitalize on the success of Origins, so the game was really being pushed hard to be released now. So I'd like to know if there are bugs, or if there's anything we could patch or fix.

http://au.music.ign.com/articles/115/1154594p1.html (http://au.music.ign.com/articles/115/1154594p1.html)
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: iconoclast on March 11, 2011, 04:45:45 AM
 :lol This game sounds like a wreck. Looks like Gamefly helped me dodge a bullet with this one.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 11, 2011, 08:07:32 AM
BUY A PC AND DRAKENSANG
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 11, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
Didn't hear anyone complaining about repetetive dungeons in Persona 3. Sounds to me like y'all jus' hatin'.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2011, 08:42:07 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424081

:lol
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 11, 2011, 08:43:33 AM
Didn't hear anyone complaining about repetetive dungeons in Persona 3. Sounds to me like y'all jus' hatin'.

Nailed it so hard. This thread is like a honeypot for dumb dumbs. Let it out guys, thread aint going anywhere.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2011, 08:46:12 AM
gonna wait for the collected edition on this one with all the dlc, gives me plenty of time to finish the first
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: iconoclast on March 11, 2011, 09:02:45 AM
Didn't hear anyone complaining about repetetive dungeons in Persona 3. Sounds to me like y'all jus' hatin'.

Lots of people complained about that actually. Tartarus is just one big dungeon crawl full of randomized floors.

DA2 sounds like they copy+pasted the same areas over and over because they needed to rush the game out ASAP. I guess this is Bioware's standard solution when they are running low on content (ME1 sidequests come to mind, and even DAO suffered from a mild case of copypasta).
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games. I'd certainly buy Witcher 2 if it was on the trey nasty. Oh well!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 11, 2011, 10:22:15 AM
I'm buying The Witcher 2.  Polacks :bow2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 10:33:55 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.
:bow2


As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it.  I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 11, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
Don't worry Demi, seems Archie's got your back, he will be partly funding the console iterations of Witcher 2. Can't wait for a even more streamlined Witcher 3.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.
:bow2


As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it.  I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2011, 11:07:47 AM
yeah, nobody bought witcher 1, they're just making a sequel for fun
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.
:bow2


As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it.  I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Yeah I forgot about that. The feeling is still the same though. Slight disappointment mixed with me still enjoying elements of the game.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.
:bow2


As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it.  I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Yeah I forgot about that. The feeling is still the same though. Slight disappointment mixed with me still enjoying elements of the game.

Have you played Mask of the Betrayer?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 11:15:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.
:bow2


As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it.  I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Yeah I forgot about that. The feeling is still the same though. Slight disappointment mixed with me still enjoying elements of the game.

Have you played Sword of the Betrayer?

Just for like a second. I know betrayer is supposed to be better than regular NW 2 though so at some point I will get around to it.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2011, 11:31:04 AM
i tried nwn2 and it bored me to death but i still kinda liked the combat because turn based combat will always be more appealing to me when it comes to rpgs
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424081

:lol

Since no one should ever have to click through to GAF:

A ban on the BioWare forums locks you out of playing Dragon Age 2.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Third on March 11, 2011, 12:50:41 PM
Lucky him?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Raban on March 11, 2011, 03:22:22 PM
yes I don't have a image program

did you uninstall MS paint ???
Title: Re: ><><OFFICIAL><>< DRAGON AGE 2 PLAYING THREAD
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 12, 2011, 08:52:59 AM
Gonna start playing this myself tomorrow. Sort of intrigued this game had this much of a backlash.
Title: Re: ><><OFFICIAL><>< DRAGON AGE 2 PLAYING THREAD
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 12, 2011, 10:50:06 AM
Gonna start playing this myself tomorrow. Sort of intrigued this game had this much of a backlash.

It's not "bad" per se, a solid b or b- title, but it really could have used some more time in the oven and less dumbing down for the demi crowd.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 12, 2011, 11:24:06 AM
Do yourself a favor and play on hard.  Game is near unplayable on nightmare because of the tons of additional waves during every encounter.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 12, 2011, 04:59:18 PM
I'm about 35 hours or so in at this point. I enjoy the game. Not as much as origins like I said but overall I wouldn't play it if I didn't like it to some degree despite the complaints I have. And there are a few aspects I prefer in it over origins. The speed and the responsiveness of the combat for example. I also prefer the streamlined crafting system because it means I actually use it in this game instead of having to carry around lots of ingredients to make things and then never actually doing it outside of healing or lyrium potions which was the case for me in origins. 

Only one really hard fight for me so far in the game. The
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Ancient Rock Wraith
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It didn't help that I took a badly balanced party into the fight and I had very few health potions.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 12, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
Just played the intro - and yeah, this game takes a steaming diarrhea shit on Origins.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 12, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
http://social.bioware.com/forum/Dragon-Age-II/Dragon-Age-II-Characters-Classes-and-Builds-Spoilers/The-Ultimate-Vanguard-Two-Handed-Nightmare-Domination---6396096-1.html

Makes the game much more manageable, and even fun (:omg), on nightmare.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 12, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
I love that you can finally dodge enemy attacks.

What a cluterfuck it was running away and -still- getting hit by some bullshit attack in Origins.

Seems like Mages are complete wimps ths time around though... Bethany was just like, dumb.

I went with Rogue again - imported my save.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 12, 2011, 09:14:44 PM
Rogue archers own in this.  SO strong.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 12, 2011, 11:12:36 PM
I just screwed my 2nd chick in the game.


Everyday I'm hustling.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 12:50:15 AM
Man I am enjoying this game. I knew BioWare could fix their crappy first outing.

And Blood Dragon Armor is still as useless as ever, even moreso now that other members cant even equip it. LOL

Oh well, free money.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 01:43:49 PM
Rogue archers own in this.  SO strong.

Truth - Varric is BEAST. And dwarves have chest hair now :heart

Shame they dont let me strip them naked. Oh well. A good enough compromise.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2011, 02:00:53 PM
I don't use him that much. Although I'm an archer myself so he's a bit redundant in that case.
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Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 02:15:18 PM
I'd juggle a bow if they let you swap weapons like DAO, but I'm fine with running up and slicing and dicing.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2011, 04:52:42 PM
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I just beat ser varnell. That was an annoying fight that sort of emphasizes the worst part of combat in this game. Endless waves that spawn out of nowhere and behind you. And Varnell kept healing himself to boot. And after I beat beat him one of the Qunari bodies had a loot glow around it but it won't let me pick it up so that seems like a bug.
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2011, 05:20:09 PM
this game is bad. anyone who likes it has bad taste and prob likes garbage like siants row.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 07:22:05 PM
Game's awesome. Anyone who likes it probably isn't a pathetic loser like Methodis. LOL!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 13, 2011, 07:43:37 PM
Now that I've played this for a few hours, can someone explain to me how this is supposed to be so much worse than DAO, 'cause I can't see it. Outside a few console concessions, game is still fundamentally DA. I mean, I hate that there's no overhead camera as much as the next person, but that does not warrant the backlash this is getting.

No one's yet sufficiently explained to me how the battle system in this is supposed to be sooo much worse than the original. And nope, animations and speed are not adequate reasons. Also, they don't constitute a 'dumbing down'.

I not saying it's better than DAO, either. There are some changes, yes. But the core of the experience remains consistent.

edit: again, I've only played this for a few hours, so impressions are subject to change. Not that minimal play time has stopped others from passing judgement, mind you.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 07:52:05 PM
How to beat Nightmare:

Use Weapon/Shield class

Use characters who also have Weapon/Shield (Aveline, etc.)

Equip/Unequip shield and watch your defense rise and rise to the ten thousands

Enjoy Nightmare
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2011, 08:04:08 PM
Is that glitch on the PC version?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 13, 2011, 08:18:32 PM
What if you hate DA but like Saints Row?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 13, 2011, 08:43:29 PM
Magical spawns, one boring ass city, copy pasta dungeons, fetch quests up the wazoo, downgraded graphics, and the Mass Effect wheel are my biggest gripes.

Varric is a bro, though.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2011, 09:50:46 PM
Now that I've played this for a few hours, can someone explain to me how this is supposed to be so much worse than DAO, 'cause I can't see it. Outside a few console concessions, game is still fundamentally DA. I mean, I hate that there's no overhead camera as much as the next person, but that does not warrant the backlash this is getting.

No one's yet sufficiently explained to me how the battle system in this is supposed to be sooo much worse than the original. And nope, animations and speed are not adequate reasons. Also, they don't constitute a 'dumbing down'.

I not saying it's better than DAO, either. There are some changes, yes. But the core of the experience remains consistent.

edit: again, I've only played this for a few hours, so impressions are subject to change. Not that minimal play time has stopped others from passing judgement, mind you.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I've put the most time in the game so far in this thread. There are some legit things I really don't like about the game especially compared to the first. And there are some things I like about the game and there are even a couple of things that are improvements from the first.

The problem with GAF and that gaf thread is that its really not about this game. It's about some larger PC versus console debate which is why its blown up and why certain people are so invested in the debate. 

Also it helps when you are able to breakdown down games beyond the extremes of "its complete shit" or the "teh greatest game ever!".
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 13, 2011, 10:04:30 PM
just started playing this. didn't play the first game. seems like Mass Effect 2 with swords. enjoying it. will continue playing
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 10:07:02 PM
What if you hate DA but like Saints Row?

As someone who both hates DA and loves Saints Row. I will say you will love DA2!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 13, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
Magical spawns, one boring ass city, copy pasta dungeons, fetch quests up the wazoo, downgraded graphics, and the Mass Effect wheel are my biggest gripes.

Sounds great!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 13, 2011, 11:16:43 PM
Well, at least the blatant gay in this game is a human and not some twinky elf.

They dont give you much choices with sex do they? All I get:

- Widowed Housewife
- Precious underage elf girl with tight and moist hole
- Twinky emo elf man
- Blatantly homo demon-man (technically two people right?)
- Dyke pirate

Still cant sexor a hot dwarf, OR have hot incest relations with my sister. BioWare needs to step their game up.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 14, 2011, 12:53:39 AM
Isabella is seriously hot. I dont know why but i would fuck her if i gave chance
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 12:57:12 AM
I decided to stick with:

Avaline, Varric, Anders for my game party - everyone in this game is a freakin mage or some sort.

Is there really no other Warriors besides Avaline?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 14, 2011, 01:00:54 AM
Fenris?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 01:23:55 AM
He's not much of a tank character.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 14, 2011, 01:29:27 AM
Yeah he sucks as a tank.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 14, 2011, 02:03:06 AM
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I stopped for the night on the fight with the Arishock. Another bullshit battle that does a great job of showing the flaws still inherent in the combat system. Even though you are supposed to be able to dodge and avoid blows like its an action game, its still bullshit dice rolls. This dude will swing his sword and come nowhere near me but because of dice rolls I get hit. Now the same thing happens in origins but at least they didn't pretend that was an action game or that you could "fight like a spartan". Lame.
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Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 14, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
Magical spawns

This is a legit complaint. It's like I'm playing some sort of tower defence game now.

I mean, coupled with the faster pace of the game, it does keep you on your toes and puts a greater emphasis on party position and formation, but it feels cheap. Like if I'm playing a Total War game and hundreds of enemy units appear from nowhere - I would just wanna facepalm the game.

edit: game should now be referred as Dragon Age 2ower Defence Edition - only took me a couple of minutes to come up with that, :p
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Brehvolution on March 14, 2011, 10:30:13 AM
Just played the demo. It ran great on my PC.

Pass
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 14, 2011, 11:59:19 AM
For what its worth I have no problem with the length of the game. It's more than enough especially with all the side quests.
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(Although I'm not really that fond of the entire thing being set in Kirkwall.
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Post by: maxy on March 14, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
UK
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Another RPG takes the top spot this week with EA’s ‘Dragon Age II’ swooping in to take No1. This marks EA’s third title to hit No1 so far this year (FIFA 11 and Dead Space 2 are the other two).

Xbox 360 drives the sales with a 57% share compared to PS3 at 22% and PC at 21%.

sbots :bow2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2011, 12:22:26 PM
I wonder how its first week compares to DA1.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2011, 02:27:23 PM
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6503413/1

(http://i.imgur.com/QuSqZ.jpg)

Haha
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 02:34:29 PM
This is insane. Cheating is one thing, but being banned from playing a game because of something said on a forum? Come on.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 02:37:36 PM
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6503413/1#6503787

Quote
looks like you can still play but just cant log-in

Nailed it. Nothing is wrong.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 02:41:52 PM
That kind of misses the point, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 02:45:43 PM
He doesn't need to log in to play the game. DAO Ultimate has everything on-disc. Sorry you like to spread FUD... but I am here to sort you out. Now get a job.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2011, 02:49:26 PM
I don't know how it works for consoles, but the PC version of DA Ultimate requires you to log online and authenticate the DLC.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
Can just install to a HDD and play.

You only need to get on EA Servers for any bonuses, like the misc. belts and buckles and zippers.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 14, 2011, 03:06:34 PM
UK
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Another RPG takes the top spot this week with EA’s ‘Dragon Age II’ swooping in to take No1. This marks EA’s third title to hit No1 so far this year (FIFA 11 and Dead Space 2 are the other two).

Xbox 360 drives the sales with a 57% share compared to PS3 at 22% and PC at 21%.

sbots :bow2

I'm kinda suprised it knocked Pokemon off the top spot tbh. Would love to see how DA2 fared against the original DAO.

edit: nm Pokemon counts as two seperate SKUs  :-[
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 14, 2011, 05:46:04 PM
Going to the same handful of dungeons over and over again really starts to grate.  :yuck It saps your enthusiasm to do quests.


I have no idea why they rushed this game like they did but it did them no favors.

It didn't even have the standard 24 month dev cycle and it shows.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 14, 2011, 05:59:51 PM
tl;dr: highest rated Dragon Age II Metacritic user review is from a Bioware employee

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(http://i.imgur.com/BEZOe.png)
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Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 14, 2011, 06:06:59 PM
RPS nails it.
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Combat remains very similar, but for a streamlining of elements. It’s tempting to decry the consolification of things, but I think the reality is the console version has been brought more in line with the PC. Little is sacrificed in terms of interaction and involvement in favour of a smoother, cleaner interface. Crucially, you can still pause at any time and issue orders to all your party members, and indeed program intricate tactics slots so they do your bidding when you’re elsewhere.

However, the battles themselves have changed in one uniquely moronic way. Enemies now attack in waves. So as you walk into a room you’ll see the usual 6 to 10 enemies waiting to attack you. Freeze, place your characters, issue orders, let loose your spells and attacks, rationing mana and stamina carefully to ensure the big bad in the middle can be taken down, selecting when to use your heal spell… And then more suddenly arrive.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/14/wit-the-opening-hours-of-dragon-age-ii/

It's not the full review, only impressions of the first 8 hours, but I agree with most of what he says. Ever since John Walker rated DAO/Awakenings up there with Planescape and Baldur's Gate, I've been waiting keenly for his impressions of DA2.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 14, 2011, 06:12:38 PM
Almost all my major issues/complaints of the game have nothing to do with with "consolification" of the game. They have to do with poor ideas or bad designs inherently within themselves with a lot of them being based on the time given to do the game I'm guessing.

People who whined about the speed of the combat or the animations seem really dumb now. That isn't the problem with the game. It never was going to be. When the combat works its actually the best part of the game. What doesn't work is simply the level of design and polish put into it. 
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
Almost all my major issues/complaints of the game have nothing to do with with "consolification" of the game. They have to do with poor ideas or bad designs inherently within themselves with a lot of them being based on the time given to do the game I'm guessing.

Consolification was the issue trotted around before the game actually came out [since it was something viewed as being easy to detect from videos and such], but, yeah, that's really not what's being brought up now that the game out and people have had a chance to actually play it for themselves.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 14, 2011, 06:22:04 PM
Almost all my major issues/complaints of the game have nothing to do with with "consolification" of the game. They have to do with poor ideas or bad designs inherently within themselves with a lot of them being based on the time given to do the game I'm guessing.

People who whined about the speed of the combat or the animations seem really dumb now. That isn't the problem with the game. It never was going to be. When the combat works its actually the best part of the game. What doesn't work is simply the level of design and polish put into it. 


This is what I've been trying to put across this whole time, and still now!

Consolification was the issue trotted around before the game actually came out [since it was something viewed as being easy to detect from videos and such], but, yeah, that's really not what's being brought up now that the game out and people have had a chance to actually play it for themselves.


Except, even AFTER people got their hands on it (specifically the demo), one their main complaints was/is still how the combat feels 'dumbed down' and/or 'repetitive'.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 14, 2011, 06:24:33 PM
Game is so hot. Feels good to be gangsta.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: BlackMage on March 14, 2011, 07:03:13 PM
This game is pure DOGSHIT.. WTF What a waste of fucking money!  :maf
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Brehvolution on March 14, 2011, 08:59:47 PM
:rofl

Should have played the demo. See my review above.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2011, 09:26:38 PM
on the bright side, Dragon Age 3 will probably kick ass

Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2011, 09:50:24 PM
on the bright side, Dragon Age 3 will probably kick ass

Only if they give it the time it needs.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 14, 2011, 10:00:13 PM
the questing in the game is really weird and hard to follow. i dunno something about the way it gives you quests makes it really hard to follow. i'm having a hard time know where i am supposed to go for each quest and typically i stumble on the objective for a quest. also the overworld structure and how you move around in it is also really weird. mostly how you are supposed to leave an area or go to different parts. just really odd design.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2011, 10:13:39 PM
Dragon Age 3 will probably have a 16 month dev cycle too.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 16, 2011, 07:40:51 PM
Hard is really the best difficulty to play this at. It's not too challenging, but you can easily die on the harder fights if you're not being careful. I'm digging the combat more and more as I play it. The combat itself is better than in DAO, but they fuck it up by not including the overhead camera and having constant waves of enemies appearing from nowhere.

Also, the game menus in this are the worst. I loved the UI in DAO, so how they've managed to fuck it up is mind-boggling.

The graphics engine is clearly superior with better effects and lighting, but that doesn't count for much when most of the environments are so abhorrent - barren and with little detail.

I'm enjoying it quite a bit though. It's got that same 'just one more quest' feeling I got from the original.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2011, 11:01:18 PM
I'll be honest. I completely burned out on this in the third act. I tried to play some today but I got bored. I'll finish it up sometime this week.
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Post by: Diunx on March 20, 2011, 01:26:05 AM
Played the ps3 demo, what a piece of garbage.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 20, 2011, 02:24:41 AM
this is a fucking awful game. this is a western weeaboo experience, the plasticman equivalent to ar tonelico.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 21, 2011, 06:57:05 PM
close to finishing now but I just came across this completely broken quest.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Who_Needs_Rescuing%3F
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 22, 2011, 05:32:52 PM
'Bout 12 hours in, still tackling quests in Act 1. Really enjoying it. Quests in general are a lot more fulfilling this time, and you tend to move on to the next one before any of them overstay their welcome. They're more diverse this time around as they seem to deal with different aspects of the lore and society in the city. Sure, most of them are solved in the end through combat, but that's a good thing. The combat's always been the main selling point of DA for me. This shouldn't be like Fallout where generally the Speech solutions are more satisfying than the shootery, actual gameplay bits.

When you get to the end of quests, you typically have to face some sort of boss character, and this more often than not, is where the game shines. I had to restart a few times during these sections, but they can be beat, mostly, with better squad management and tactics. This is in contrast to DAO I believe where you could steam through 90% of the fights without much regard to squad management, regardless of difficulty. Also abilities are better and have a larger impact in battles - you may find yourself rotating party members a lot more just to see how different abilities compliment each other, and with each party member having unique skill sets it encourages experimentation and rotation for higher level play (cross-class combos also factor in). The ability to respec any of your party members at will enforces this experimentation.

However, I do miss the overhead angle when casting aoe spells though, you can never get it where you want it. They also shoulda included some sort of speed slider for the combat in the options, though. Sometimes the battles are played out so fast that it's impossible to keep track of all party members at once.
 
I like the fact that it's not some big, cliched, epic fantasy romp - makes a change of pace from every other fantasy rpg. It sorta takes the plot of GTA games and applies it, successfully so far, I'd say, to the fantasy genre.

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Post by: demi on March 22, 2011, 05:37:12 PM
Yep, game is hot. Wait till you get Act 2. Quests are way better.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 22, 2011, 05:44:40 PM
So I beat it. At around 70 hours or so on the timer. I did every mission I came across except for the bugged one.

It's good not great and coming off of a previous game that a lot of people thought was great, a just good game tends to get unwarranted hate imo.

I certainly don't hate DA 2. There are certainly large portions of the game where I was hooked and very excited to see the next bit also tempered by portions of the game that just bugged me.

At its core there is potentially an interesting story here but its not told especially well nor does it connect the dots very well from piece to piece. The game is divided into three acts and ideally each act should set-up and lead into the next act storywise but the game really struggles with that. Its starts off incredibly slow and its hard to even tell if there is a real story thread connecting this stuff until far later in the game than it should be. The storytelling structure which they made a big deal about with it being told in flashbacks is mostly no big deal outside of one funny bit with Varric. Your party was okay. Nobody was exactly great or fascinating but you grew to at least tolerate/like most of them.

The combat is the biggest mixed bag in the game. Lots of times its really fun quick and responsive. And then sometimes its just aggravating. The spawning waves of dudes is just too overdone and honestly that is what stopped me from just blowing through the game. It's never especially difficult outside of a handful of battles but those are some of the most annoying battles that really made me put the game on hold on a few occasions. Nothing more frustrating than the game sticking you in the middle of a room and just have people spawn from all directions on top of you. I get that some battles will require more than the people who were initially visible but its really cheap to just constantly do that thing of spamming people behind you or from different directions. That's not strategic battle. It's just annoying. Also the repeating dungeons don't help as it all starts to feel the same as you keep entering the same dungeons dozens of times and fighting the same spamming enemies.

I've already pretty much discussed it in earlier posts but the biggest problem with the game is that the dev time simply didn't allow them to polish the game or create the epic experience most of us kinda hoped for. It's got nothing to do with consolization or speed of combat or things like that. It's all the other stuff like polishing the systems and story they created within the context of this title. It allowed them to create a good game but not a great game and that shows itself in many ways all through out the game big and small. Like no ending text or story scroll to tell me what happened to my party or all the people I interacted with in the game which is fairly standard in rpg's.

So glad I played it. But EA really needs to give them a minimum of two years (24 months) for the next one. Three years would be ideal.

Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 22, 2011, 06:23:30 PM
I don't think a bigger, overarching plot would necessarily make the game much better.

In the end, wouldn't it  just boil down to 'big bad baddie over there. Let's go kill it/her/them. First, must gather party of super heroes' - ala ME2 or most other rpgs?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 22, 2011, 06:32:12 PM
I don't think a bigger, overarching plot would necessarily make the game much better.

In the end, wouldn't it  just boil down to 'big bad baddie over there. Let's go kill it/her/them. First, must gather party of super heroes' - ala ME2 or most other rpgs?

My problem isn't the overarching plot per se. I think the ingredients are there to tell this particular story well. And there are moments where it works. But ultimately it just sort of feels thrown together. Like they knew the big story beats. But they didn't have time to connect them like they should have been connected.

I also probably don't like the entire game being set in one city but if they were going to do that then the repeating dungeons and locations you visit took the wind out of my sails. Not only was it one city. But I visited each place like dozens of times. It takes away from the locations and experience feeling unique.  
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 22, 2011, 06:40:37 PM
There is a small bonus to the lack of new locations/dungeons which means that we don't often get long, tedious dungeon crawls, like the Deep Roads in DAO. In DA2 they typically go like this, and take about 10-15 mins, which I like:

Take quest > go to quest location > converse/fight dudes > go back pick up reward.

Though, having slightly longer, unique story dungeons would be great - and still hoping I might get a couple of those further in, maybe in the expedition I'm saving money up for now?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 22, 2011, 10:47:45 PM
There is a small bonus to the lack of new locations/dungeons which means that we don't often get long, tedious dungeon crawls, like the Deep Roads in DAO. In DA2 they typically go like this, and take about 10-15 mins, which I like:

Take quest > go to quest location > converse/fight dudes > go back pick up reward.

Though, having slightly longer, unique story dungeons would be great - and still hoping I might get a couple of those further in, maybe in the expedition I'm saving money up for now?

There is a lot to like in the game even if I have some issues with it and don't find it overall as enjoyable as origins was. Some beats of the main story are really quite nice. Some of the side quests are awesome. And the game has a sense of humour about itself that is refreshing. 
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 25, 2011, 04:15:03 AM
Harshest review yet. 2.5/10

Finally someone has the balls to do it.


http://www.gamecritics.com/brad-gallaway/dragon-age-ii-review
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 25, 2011, 08:39:16 AM
Act 2 quests are leagues beyond Origins. The Varric personal quest is awesome. Game still takes a steamer on Origins.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 25, 2011, 11:29:58 AM
Varric's personal quest, is pretty awesome.  Shame the rest of the game is garbage.  The problem with origins was it was poor at the start.  But as the game went on and you got more skills it was awesome.  DA2 never gets better and wears you down.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 25, 2011, 11:39:17 AM
Disagree already. I was kind of winded from Act 1's laundry list of missions, but once I got to Act 2, things became much more streamlined and, well, better.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 25, 2011, 07:35:21 PM
Wow, the Deep Roads is really kicking my ass. I should have stocked up on potions before I went in.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 25, 2011, 07:37:09 PM
Wow, the Deep Roads is really kicking my ass. I should have stocked up on potions before I went in.

Yeah the game does a poor job of giving you that option imo. And arguably one of the tougher fights in the game occurs in that area.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 25, 2011, 07:45:06 PM
Wow, the Deep Roads is really kicking my ass. I should have stocked up on potions before I went in.

Yeah the game does a poor job of giving you that option imo. And arguably one of the tougher fights in the game occurs in that area.

I died a few times but I think it's doable
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I died a couple of times in the ogre area, restarted, beat that, and I'm faced with a dragon straight after! With only a couple potions to my name! I did however bring the dragon to about 25% of its health on my last try so it's definitely doable I think.
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Actually looking forward to my next play so I can beat its ass!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: BlackMage on March 25, 2011, 07:49:02 PM
I just bought Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition to cleanse me of this filth.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 25, 2011, 07:53:44 PM
I can't understand peeps who hate DA2 but love DAO. The games share so much in common! 

DA2 is so misunderstood  :'(
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 25, 2011, 07:58:45 PM
We call them losers.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 25, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
Wow, the Deep Roads is really kicking my ass. I should have stocked up on potions before I went in.

Yeah the game does a poor job of giving you that option imo. And arguably one of the tougher fights in the game occurs in that area.

I died a few times but I think it's doable
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I died a couple of times in the ogre area, restarted, beat that, and I'm faced with a dragon straight after! With only a couple potions to my name! I did however bring the dragon to about 25% of its health on my last try so it's definitely doable I think.
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Actually looking forward to my next play so I can beat its ass!


I'm thinking of a different fight but I won't mention it until you are past that point.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 25, 2011, 08:23:16 PM
shit,  there's more after that?  FFFUUUU. -- looking forward to it.

Bodahn where are you



Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 26, 2011, 07:29:39 AM
Killed the sumabitch. Took a lot of repositioning and used up all my potions, but I did it.

Onwards!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 26, 2011, 11:15:42 AM
you weren't joking, the previous boss was a piece of cake compared to this next one. I don't think I can take him with my current party setup on hard. I thinks its imperative to have a support/heal mage for this fight as the bastard has so much health and will take ages to take down no matter what. Don't have any respec potions either.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 26, 2011, 11:18:21 AM
I dropped down from Hard to normal for the
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rock wraith
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fight. I had no health potions at that point and a bad party setup. And that fight requires a lot of tedious micromanagement to have people in your party stopping and starting movement a lot to avoid damage. One of my complaints about the game is that I felt a certain party makeup is a lot better than all other party makeups which is why whenever I was serious I always took a very specific party into battle. I didn't do it for that battle because I didn't know I wouldn't be able to buy a lot of health potions once the mission started.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 26, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
yeah I think I'm gonna lower the difficulty of this one. Maybe if I had more potions. I get him just below halfway on his health bar and I run out of potions and consequently my tank dies

But there is definitely a certain party set-up that would make the battle cake (aside from the tedious micromanagement every few seconds), and specifically a support mage.


Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 26, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
lol. I went to EA Support and got a free code for Black Emporium.

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Tyrone: Hi, my name is Tyrone. How may I help you?

 2256977559: Hi Tyrone, I have a question about Dragon Age 2

 Tyrone: Please go ahead

 2256977559: I recently purchased the Signature Edition, but I have reason to believe my code for the "Black Emporium" store did not work. Is it possible for a replacement?

 Tyrone: Could you please provide me your Gamer Tag ,EA account e-mail id and your date of birth registered on EA site ?

 Tyrone: Apart from this please provide me the code for the game

 2256977559: INFORMATION

 2256977559: Unfortunately I am nowhere near my home to provide the code

 2256977559: I'm at the office for the weekend so I was hoping to get this settled when I got back

 Tyrone: Could you please hold on for few minutes, while I have a look on your issue with my supervisor?

 2256977559: That is no problem

 Tyrone: Generally we don't provide the code without verifying the complete information but as being an valuable player of EA, I am making an exception for you

 2256977559: I appreciate it, thank you

 Tyrone: Here is the code that you need to redeem in the console : CODE

 Tyrone: Please save it

 Tyrone: Is there any thing else that I may assist you with today?

 2256977559: I have written it down

 2256977559: No, that should be good. I willtry this and if anything happens I will send an email

 2256977559: Thank you again

 Tyrone: It was my pleasure to assist you. I would greatly appreciate your taking the time to complete the survey which you will receive in your email.

 2256977559: I most certainly will

 Tyrone: Bye, take care *Smile*

 2256977559: Bye
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 26, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
i like how you get mad when people talk about piracy on here yet you willingly steal from a company wtf dude
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 26, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
I like how you're a loser then but when you post you're a loser now.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: BlackMage on March 26, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
I like how you're a loser then but when you post you're a loser now.

I want to start a DA:O > DA2 thread.. do i have your permission?!
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 26, 2011, 10:35:05 PM
After you go fuck that fat chick from OK Cupid
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 26, 2011, 10:52:28 PM
Why does he need permission?  Grow some balls already if you want to make such a thread.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: BlackMage on March 27, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
Why does he need permission?  Grow some balls already if you want to make such a thread.

because Demi would delete it he's mean to me like that.  :'(
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on March 27, 2011, 03:33:40 PM
It's absolutely ridiculous how much better this game is than Origins. The final fight is actually good. Everything just goes together.

I am so stoked for Dragon Age 3 :bow
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Bocsius on March 28, 2011, 09:57:49 PM
Just completed the game.

Not better than Origins, not by a longshot. But still a great game. BioWare wins again.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 28, 2011, 10:00:33 PM
this game is so bad i cant play more than 2 hours at a time because its just so...the same and boring. DA:O was amazing this? garbage.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2011, 05:41:57 PM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/31/analysis-dragon-age-ii/

spoilers. Shouldn't read if you haven't completed it.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 05, 2011, 01:29:39 PM
http://dragonage.bioware.com/me2offer/#faq

Free copy of Mass Effect 2 for all previous and future buyers of Dragone Age 2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on April 05, 2011, 01:34:24 PM
Dragon Age II is off to a great start – breaking the 1 million mark in less than two weeks and faster than Dragon Age: Origins

 :fbm
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on April 05, 2011, 01:36:25 PM
Told you losers. Game is hot and deserves the sales. Origins was ass.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 05, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
Dragon Age II is off to a great start – breaking the 1 million mark in less than two weeks and faster than Dragon Age: Origins

 :fbm

Just confirms that DA:O built up a ton of goodwill. :smug
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on April 05, 2011, 01:45:36 PM
Maybe DA3 will be a return to form, being more complex than DA:O and have interesting encounters that aren't magically spawning waves.


:'(
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: maxy on April 05, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
Dragon Age II is off to a great start – breaking the 1 million mark in less than two weeks and faster than Dragon Age: Origins

 :fbm

Please buy DA2...comes with a free game

We'll see what NPD says.

maybe :'(
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on April 05, 2011, 01:52:50 PM
Maybe it'll be fun. Weird, I know.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 07, 2011, 04:15:18 PM
argh got my first crash in this during Merrill's act 3 boss fight. It was going so well too.

edit: wow, did not expect the quest to end this way lol

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killing everyone in the elven village
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 09, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
Finished this up. 45 hrs. Funny, Steam glitched out and says I only played for 28 hrs - maybe it's 'cause I'm running the open beta version.

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Would Anders have blown up the Chantry had I not helped in his quest? I have a feeling he would of done it anyway, and the game would force Civil War to break out either way - gotta set up DA3, right!

In that regard, it does give an illusion of choice, as in this shit is gonna break out no matter what, but you can choose a side if you want.

Also, seriously, once the Qun leave and Act 3 hits, Kirkwall plunges straight into an idiocrasy. Every leader has some sort of mad agenda. I mean they sort of explain it away with the Lyrium idol tainting Meredith's mind, though it would have been nice if it didn't come down to some contrived evil force for once. This is the problem with having a fixed narrative set up to span multiple games, the player can't really end it the way he wants to. I would have preferred to take down Meredith, appoint Thrask/Cullen as Knight-Commander, making the Templars more lenient toward mages, and then everyone livies happily ever after... lol. Of course, this is impossible in the context of a game like this - you just gotta roll with it.
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If you leave aside expectations of what a DA sequel should be, the game is decent. I mean I have no hankering to play it again, as I did with DAO, but that's because so much of the game takes place in one location with the same dungeons over and over, with a battle system based on respawning waves rather than encounter design.

The lore is fantastic and I wish I had read more of the codex entries, but they tease a vast complex world that hardly materialises within the game. This complaint can be called out against DAO and most other rpgs too, but is more apparent in this game, where much of the attention is focused on a smaller dispute that only leads on to greater things once the game ends. A precursor to the main event.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 09, 2011, 02:30:04 PM
The thing about DA2 is that none of yoru choices affect anything in this game. Anders still turns into a idiot, everything happens. It's lazy game development and sucks.


For example I bet I could say my ending of DA:O and it would be different from almost everyone elses. Everyones DA2 ending is the exact same.
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Anders blows up the chantry, you fight orsino, then meredith, you find out at the end that Leliana is working with that french short hair twat and nothing else
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there is no individuality, no seperation, just desperation.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 09, 2011, 02:36:12 PM
While I didn't agree with all the things the guy said in the rps analysis the one I did agree with is simply the name of the game. Which is really about expectations. If this game was called Dragon Age:Kirkwall and it was it sort of sold as another deeper expansion like awakenings telling a side story in this universe I wouldn't have had a problem with it. (In retrospect I was probably a little too harsh on awakenings. At least that product is a bit more honest about what it really is) Or at least I would have less of a problem with it. But when you call it Dragon Age 2 you are implying that its going to be more epic and bigger and badder in nearly all ways than the original. That's the whole point of sticking a 2 in the title. But its not. That was purely for marketing purposes. It feels like an expansion pack or a sidestory in the universe in nearly all ways which isn't surprising given the dev time put towards it.


Different genre but compare this experience to Dead Space 2 which did feel bigger and badder than the original. That's what you expect from a sequel.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 09, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
The thing about DA2 is that none of yoru choices affect anything in this game.

Yeah, they try and give the illusion of choice, but your decisions make no difference to the story arc because a specific event has to occur for the follow up game.

Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on April 09, 2011, 03:28:21 PM
None of your choices affect DAO as well. I know, weird. I still had to fight a Dragon? O_o
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 09, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
None of your choices affect DAO as well. I know, weird. I still had to fight a Dragon? O_o
Yes they do. They totally do. It depends on whose king, who kills the dragon, what you do with Morrigan etc etc etc.

Are you purposelly distinguished mentally-challenged or do you just like to play one on the internet?
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on April 09, 2011, 03:32:23 PM
What does any of that affect? The end result is the same. I still fight the dragon.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 09, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
It effects the cutscenes, the story, the future of the lore, etc, wheres in Dragon Age nothing changes ever.

Are you seriously going to argue that DA:O has a static ending? I'm not talking about the boss fight, that's stupid, but all the cutscenes etc change.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 09, 2011, 03:34:26 PM
wheres in Dragon Age 2 nothing changes*
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on April 09, 2011, 03:34:54 PM
I did all the endings for the achievements and it still wound up the same. Everyone had a party.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 09, 2011, 03:39:11 PM
But the way you got to the party and who was there etc etc and the end text of where everyone was was different, compared to DA2 where nothign ever changes no matter what.

DA2 is a bad game. if you like it you have shit taste in video games.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on April 09, 2011, 03:41:27 PM
HOW I got to the party, how riveting.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 10, 2011, 05:26:33 AM
Thing is,  there was an awesome bit near the end of DAO where you get to decide the fate of Loghain and much of Ferelden. There was no such thing in DA2. It would be forgivable if this was an expandalone.  But when you put a 2 at the end of it, people expect better.

The final boss fight is better than Origins, but the lead up to it felt lazy. A contrived final  third so they can set up DA3.

ME2 does this as well, I think. Somehow that was easier to swallow than this. Maybe cause that had the benefit of a longer dev time, less recycled areas, more interesting cast - the fact that a suicide mission sounded cheesy and romantic enough to work within its fiction.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 30, 2011, 06:57:31 PM
Demi is the only worthwhile thing in this thread.

Game was good and an improvement on orignins in most ways.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 14, 2011, 09:11:05 AM
How about not rushing out the next one.


Quote
EA has admitted it "lost some fans" with the release of fantasy role-playing game Dragon Age 2.

Dragon Age 2 launched in March to mixed reviews. Eurogamer's Dragon Age 2 review turned up an 8/10.

Many fans complained at the re-use of environments and the single city setting of Kirkwall.

"We were clearly disappointed with some of the response from the fanbase, because we want them to be as excited about it as we are," EA Games Label boss Frank Gibeau told Eurogamer.

"We're very proud of the game. We tried to innovate and do some different things with the combat system and some of the way we told story. For some fans it worked well. In fact, we brought a lot of new fans into the Dragon Age franchise.

"But to be honest, we lost some fans as well. They were not pleased with some of the innovations and things we'd done. We understand that and we're listening."

EA will take on fan feedback for Dragon Age 3, Gibeau promised.

"As we think about where we take the franchise next, we're going to take that into consideration and really engage them," he said.

"Ray [Muzyka] and Greg [Zeschuk] have built a long career being close to their fanbase and understanding what they want. If they do something in a direction that is innovative and fresh for some but not for others, they'll take that into consideration as we think about the next design and where the game goes from here."

Last month a tweet revealed BioWare was looking for staff to work on Dragon Age 3.

In a Dragon Age II interview with Eurogamer, lead designer Mike Laidlaw said the developer had "ideas" for a sequel and protagonist Hawke.

What about multiplayer?

"Long-term that's something we have to consider," he said, "because obviously multiplayer is something that's a huge undertaking, it presents technical difficulty. And frankly it's something that if done, has to be done really well, otherwise it feels very tacked on. So we'll have to make any decision about that within that context."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-14-ea-we-lost-some-fans-with-dragon-age-2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on June 14, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
Fan Feedback: Don't make it like DAO1, it was awful.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2011, 09:51:38 AM
You're not a fan if you did't like it :teehee
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on June 14, 2011, 10:38:41 AM
ANOTHER WAVE
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on June 14, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
You're not a fan if you did't like it :teehee

DAO2 is amazing. I'd gladly give fan feedback to make it as far from the abysmal DAO1.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2011, 11:33:45 AM
DAO2  :yuck
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: demi on June 25, 2011, 10:12:12 PM
Doesnt matter. The experience is the same - better than DAO
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: archie4208 on June 26, 2011, 08:37:18 AM
The Fade :bow2

Generic hallway 13 :piss2
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 28, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
I just found out this is on Mac too.  Should I play on Mac or 360?

I would honestly suggest not playing it. But maybe that's just me being a hater.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2011, 05:15:35 PM
Stoney, what'd you think of DA2? I remember you not being big on DAO? Did you play DAO on console or pc? I loved the original game but I played it on pc.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 29, 2011, 05:18:05 PM
Done.  I trust you, Stoney.

I may have been in a crabby mood that night...


The game is just frustrating. It's like a 40 hour experience but none of it is memorable. There are worse ways you could spend your gaming time but honestly I've already forgotten just about everything about that game. It's really bland. If you're dying to play an RPG I would give it a go. If you have more interesting things to do with your life or current games I would say give it a pass. I have a feeling Dragon Age 3 will be one of those games where its a clear apology for what they did in 2 and it will be a lot better.

Stoney, what'd you think of DA2? I remember you not being big on DAO? Did you play DAO on console or pc? I loved the original game but I played it on pc.

I played it on the PC. I loved the original game also. It was not perfect but there was some heart and soul to it. Dragon Age 2 while competent has almost no soul and heart to it.

If you can play it for a crazy cheap price then go ahead but don't spend actual decent money on it.  
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 29, 2011, 05:23:54 PM
Treat it like a spin-off: play it if want to experience more of the lore, but be aware that it has different gameplay priorities -- not all of them bad, I might add.

Or alternatively, wait for (hopefully), the true DA sequel.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 29, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Treat it like a spin-off: play it if want to experience more of the lore, but be aware that it has different gameplay priorities -- not all of them bad, I might add.

Or alternatively, wait for (hopefully), the true DA sequel.

Yeah there became this whole Witcher 2 versus Dragon Age 2 debate where one game is the good guy and the other game is the villain but honestly its like comparing apples and oranges. Dragon Age being disappointing has nothing to do with the Witcher 2. It's disappointing on its own merits. It simply was a rushed product. That's why its disappointing. The flaws are a direct result of being rushed.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 29, 2011, 06:26:07 PM
The best thing about that was that you got people who lambasted DA2's faster paced combat, but then in the same breath extolled the virtues of Witcher 2 (our savior of cRPGs at the time), a game who's fundamental change from the its previous entry was that it would have a more action-oriented (you might say consolized :teehee) combat system. Now tell me if you can't see the irony in that.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Herr Mafflard on July 08, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
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Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2012, 08:10:44 PM
DA2 is so barren and disjointed that it's depressing.

-You have a huge, sprawling city that's the bulk of the game world
-You can't talk to anyone or do anything.

I have no connection to the game world. None. My characters have just been thrown out there and some stuff happens to them but most of it happens in flash-animated cutscenes. There's a city full of people but I can't talk to anyone or go inside any buildings, except for the brothel but there's nothing going on there either. Bioware should be embarrassed to put their name on this game after Baldur's Gate II.

I don't like the changes to the combat system either, but I might have been able to forgive that if anything in this game showed even an ounce of effort.
Title: Re: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
"Your characters went on some awesome adventures for a whole year, you'll just have to take my word for it, though, because we don't care enough to actually show you any of that."