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Title: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: dcharlie on August 08, 2011, 09:04:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

Started by the shooting of a 29 year old by the police this is now spreading to other cities with Liverpool , Manchester and Birmingham getting in on the act. Three days running.

:o mass looting  :o
:o police absent :o
:o thug party :o
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 08, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
[youtube=560,345]9AlH2oYedfk[/youtube]
I blame asians and blacks.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 08, 2011, 09:11:17 PM
ElektrikLuv is ok, I had to check the minute I heard of this unrest.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: cool breeze on August 08, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
I thought the popo don't carry over there? or is it just the citizens, hence the stabbings.

anyway, glad I live in a civilized place where only occasionally people unload automatic rifles into public transport.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Akala on August 08, 2011, 09:14:42 PM
surprised this isn't in the news more. then again, stock market burning as well.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 08, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
I like the fact that Turksish homeowners\businessmen are striking back with sticks. Maybe the mob will escalate to shanks.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: cool breeze on August 08, 2011, 09:29:32 PM
done looting? post that haul online

(http://thewestlondoner.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/enfield14.jpg)
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Bebpo on August 08, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
At least he got Littlebigplanet!
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2011, 10:32:19 PM
ElektrikLuv is ok, I had to check the minute I heard of this unrest.

whew now i can sleep soundly tonight
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2011, 10:32:47 PM
done looting? post that haul online

(http://thewestlondoner.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/enfield14.jpg)

WHY DID HE HAVE TO BE BLACK
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Trent Dole on August 08, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
[youtube=560,345]fMxKkLG2qLg[/youtube]
:uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu :uguu
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2011, 10:40:37 PM
LEGENDARY PUNK SONGS
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2011, 12:17:39 AM
if i hear one more person boo-hooing about fucking burning buildings...
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 12:21:37 AM
Will somebody please think of Sony?
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Mandark on August 09, 2011, 12:38:43 AM
Arsenal signs Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Tottenham suffers riots and looting.

:smug
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Diunx on August 09, 2011, 01:21:17 AM
Meh, every month there's a new euro county rioting.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cormacaroni on August 09, 2011, 01:36:31 AM
Amazing pic of a woman being rescued by firefighters in the riots:

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/368220704.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1312868733&Signature=GCnOgNnXCkm%2FTVXgUSJIXpP6ln4%3D)
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: pilonv1 on August 09, 2011, 01:39:50 AM
cmon you spurs
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 01:50:31 AM
Meh, every month there's a new euro county rioting.
Is England part of Europe?  :wtf
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Reb on August 09, 2011, 02:08:17 AM
Meh, every month there's a new euro county rioting.
Is England part of Europe?  :wtf

Uh yes? It's not a continent by itself.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 02:09:50 AM
 :teehee
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 09, 2011, 02:37:11 AM
Yurp had a good run, but this was bound to happen what with all the socialized medicine over there.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 02:56:35 AM
Fucking poors on the streets.

Didnt the 29 year old yob shoot at the police? Good riddance.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 05:02:26 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 09, 2011, 05:09:45 AM
Poland is in Europe ???
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 05:30:06 AM
Fucking poors are the reason Holland - England football game got cancelled. This is going too far.

Can't the army be called in to take care of them?
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cormacaroni on August 09, 2011, 05:42:54 AM
We could get them put in camps maybe. I know, I'll go shoot a few dozen schoolkids to bring media attention to my ideas!
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 09, 2011, 05:46:09 AM
We could get them put in camps maybe. I know, I'll go shoot a few dozen schoolkids to bring media attention to my ideas!

Make sure they're black. Someone better give them the message, that they're not welcome in our Europa.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cormacaroni on August 09, 2011, 06:30:18 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/09/article-2024001-0D5C387100000578-798_640x601.jpg)

White man bowing down to a black thug.

End of the world :'(

Filthy white man about to take a shit on public pavement, kindly black man stands by holding his shoes for him, waiting to clean it up
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 06:45:16 AM
To be honest Borys, this is just sign of the failure of capitalism mostly imho.

It doesnt matter if these folks are black, white or whatever. They are filthy poors first and foremost.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=plU1_GxW66Y#at=53[/youtube]
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
That said I wish the police would be shooting with live ammo.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Eric P on August 09, 2011, 07:21:36 AM
bet not having to hide that racism feels good after all those years of having to keep it coded, hunh?
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 07:32:04 AM
B, are you really serious in all this hate?
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2011, 08:06:52 AM
wow the stupid just went out of control in this thread


the man who was killed was UNARMED.  people are fucking pissed and fed up with living in a society that marginalizes them, ignores them, and treats them like shit, so more power to em.  why respect and follow the rules of a society that doesnt do the same for you?

oh and borys fuck off.  youre fucking braindead trash; please move on to some white trash board that appreciates your stupidity
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2011, 08:24:59 AM
i think youre missing the bigger picture here
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: brob on August 09, 2011, 08:26:33 AM
calm your horses borys. there is a (additional) internal police investigation of the shooting, so let's wait with all this finger pointing. In the meantime it probably isn't the smartest idea to argue that he deserved to be shot because he was "glorifying violence", that's absurd.

Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 08:42:37 AM
the man who was killed was UNARMED. 

didnt the dude shoot at the police? thats Ive heard

I dunno why youre so mad B, you don't even live in a place with more then one culture? Poland is the whitest place on earth. Like there are hardly any minorities in Poland.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 09, 2011, 08:53:53 AM
Mark Duggan WAS armed. He did not fire at police but his weapon might have been drawn.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8690855/London-riots-Mark-Duggan-died-from-single-gunshot-to-chest-post-mortem-reveals.html

I think we've had the worst of riots/looting/arson now; 10'000 extra police deployed in London tonight.

I grew up in Tottenham where the first night of violence occurred, it's fucking surreal.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Brehvolution on August 09, 2011, 09:29:26 AM
Borys has a Fear of a Black Planet.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2011, 09:34:46 AM
Borys is a strong, independent black woman that don't need no man.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: brob on August 09, 2011, 09:37:14 AM
basmati rice is great borys. props to the man for not settling for some early-adopter bullshit 3D tv.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 09:37:51 AM
But its Tesco Value basmati rice.

Still a man stealing food is more legit then a man stealing a tv.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 09:47:09 AM
Let's forget about the race of this guy for a moment because both sides are playing the race card here.

You really think he was innocent? a dealer? He shot the cop ffs. Look at his FB pictures. He was gloryfing violence and got what he deserved.

i agree
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 09, 2011, 09:57:17 AM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/8/8/1312844281341/London-riots-day-3--009.jpg)
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2011, 09:59:42 AM
Polish district in London is under fire :o one stupid fucking polish cunt arrested smh

http://www.alert24.pl/alert24/1,84880,10086898,Zamieszki_w_Londynie_dotarly_do__polskiej_dzielnicy_.html

Only a pollack would burn his own embassy during a riot in another country :rofl
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 10:02:46 AM
I think these people are animals, but that is in now related to their race but their socio economical state. It just so happens that a good amount of poor people around the world are black. I'm sure there are plenty of non-blacks doing the very thing that blacks are doing in these photos.

Still, I'm not going to be some stupid ass PC lib. Blacks CAN be animals and very quite often, more so than any other race. That isn't racism, that is a social observation, and no, I'm not just talking about poor blacks either.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 10:03:04 AM
Polish district in London is under fire :o one stupid fucking polish cunt arrested smh

http://www.alert24.pl/alert24/1,84880,10086898,Zamieszki_w_Londynie_dotarly_do__polskiej_dzielnicy_.html

Only a pollack would burn his own embassy during a riot in another country :rofl

:rofl
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 09, 2011, 10:04:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XRZBM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ROvpZ.jpg)
:heartbeat

people gathering with brooms, determined to undo damage
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
:heartbeat
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
:rofl

They set the Sony disc manufacturing place on fire apparently
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 10:15:30 AM
Its a distribution centre :)

Anyhoo the thing I will take away from this, is how easy it is to blame a group of people for something in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 10:44:30 AM
16,000?!

(http://i.imgur.com/XfV9s.jpg)
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 10:57:57 AM
The difference is training, the actual job depends on the country.

In some countries policemen volunteer to be on the riot squad and get additional training.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Diunx on August 09, 2011, 12:04:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XRZBM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ROvpZ.jpg)
:heartbeat

white people gathering with brooms, determined to undo damage


Fixed :teehee
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 09, 2011, 12:51:45 PM
Wages in the uk are super low tbh, but there is no excuse for this. If this against the rich then burn banks etc, dont loot tvs.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2011, 01:07:42 PM
Are the Muslim communities rioting too, or just the blacks and whites?
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2011, 01:27:58 PM
Quote
Imagine if they hit some 16-yo punk-ass in the eye with that rubber bullet and he dies on spot.

i am sure a lot of people in the UK are not just imagining it but wishing it



of course others are gonna be pissed but it sucks that instead of taking a good look at fixing the problems that kicked this off there will instead be a righteous crackdown to help remind the poor to stay in their place
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/09/291720/national-review-obama-privately-supports-violent-london-rioters/

jesus christ  :lol
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Trent Dole on August 09, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/fgsfdsfargeg/1164183655174.gif)
             /
            /
(http://www.abload.de/img/351fp84r66y.gif)
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Brehvolution on August 09, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
 :lol :lol
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: brob on August 09, 2011, 03:07:30 PM
Fear not Borys, you are not alone!  (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29962326&postcount=6138)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:fbm
[close]
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 09, 2011, 03:16:54 PM
Black people and chavs get together over something that isn't lowering the legal age to have sex? Impressive!
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 09, 2011, 03:47:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ts29x.jpg)

planking in front of riot police... smh
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 09, 2011, 04:04:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vQfyY.jpg)

this flyer's been doing the rounds among looters

(http://i.imgur.com/tYcOs.jpg)

sign on the door of a Subway in Manchester

seems it's quieter in London tonight, but there are various reports coming out that people are congregating around Enfield, and possibly Greenwich. Still only quarter past nine at the moment, things haven't heated up in the past couple of days until after midnight so you never know. 

Troubles definitely spreading up north now...

Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 09, 2011, 04:55:41 PM
(http://i.min.us/il58qe.jpg)

boss Sikh standing guard
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
White people, smh.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2011, 05:12:22 PM
White people, smh.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biJgILxGK0o&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

lol
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Skidmark on August 09, 2011, 05:33:39 PM
Iran urges UK to restrain police

Iran has called on the British police to exercise restraint against people protesting over the killing of a Black man in London.

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20110809/asohrabi20110809013753623.jpg)

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast urged the British government to order the police to stop their violent confrontation with the people, IRNA reported in the early hours of Tuesday.

Mehmanparast asked the British government to start dialogue with the protesters and to listen to their demands in order to calm the situation down.

The Iranian official also asked independent human rights organizations to investigate the killing in order to protect the civil rights and civil liberties.

The unrest began on Saturday when a few hundred people gathered outside a police station in Tottenham to protest against the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan on Thursday.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193030.html
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 05:35:16 PM
 :lol, Putin lectures America, Iran lectures the UK. What is the world coming too?
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2011, 05:45:01 PM
White people, smh.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biJgILxGK0o&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

lol

The disconnect there is palpable.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: brob on August 09, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
DAT HAIR
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: brob on August 09, 2011, 05:50:42 PM
:bow Brass Eye :bow2

Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 09, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72TopWbXJg[/youtube]
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: chronovore on August 09, 2011, 07:10:05 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/8/8/1312844281341/London-riots-day-3--009.jpg)


Gorgeous. Unsettling.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 09, 2011, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/09/mark-duggan-police-ipcc
Mark Duggan, whose shooting by police sparked London's riots, did not fire a shot at police officers before they killed him, the Independent Police Complaints Commission said on Tuesday.

Releasing the initial findings of ballistics tests, the police watchdog said a CO19 firearms officer fired two bullets, and that a bullet that lodged in a police radio was "consistent with being fired from a police gun".

One theory, not confirmed by the IPCC, is that the bullet became lodged in the radio from a ricochet or after passing through Duggan.
Doesn't look too good for the MET. First leaks to the press, Hans Soloing this guy and the perception of 'idly standing by' with rioters. Seems like incompetence all around.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
Iran urges UK to restrain police

Iran has called on the British police to exercise restraint against people protesting over the killing of a Black man in London.

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20110809/asohrabi20110809013753623.jpg)

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast urged the British government to order the police to stop their violent confrontation with the people, IRNA reported in the early hours of Tuesday.

Mehmanparast asked the British government to start dialogue with the protesters and to listen to their demands in order to calm the situation down.

The Iranian official also asked independent human rights organizations to investigate the killing in order to protect the civil rights and civil liberties.

The unrest began on Saturday when a few hundred people gathered outside a police station in Tottenham to protest against the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan on Thursday.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193030.html

It's like his toupee is wearing a toupee.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
Iran urges UK to restrain police

Iran has called on the British police to exercise restraint against people protesting over the killing of a Black man in London.

(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20110809/asohrabi20110809013753623.jpg)

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast urged the British government to order the police to stop their violent confrontation with the people, IRNA reported in the early hours of Tuesday.

Mehmanparast asked the British government to start dialogue with the protesters and to listen to their demands in order to calm the situation down.

The Iranian official also asked independent human rights organizations to investigate the killing in order to protect the civil rights and civil liberties.

The unrest began on Saturday when a few hundred people gathered outside a police station in Tottenham to protest against the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan on Thursday.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193030.html

that pic has to be fake
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Broseidon on August 09, 2011, 10:02:06 PM
Chavscum cunts fucking up my Manchester.

Good job the GMP aren't pussies like the Met.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2011, 10:08:07 PM
That video is very interesting. On one hand she asks some sensible follow up questions, something I don't see much in American media. On the other she makes some blatant attempts to paint the guy and his grandson as rioters, or sympathizers. He's clearly not saying "fuck yes they burned by community down." He's saying this shit isn't surprising given the horrible living conditions of many young, poor people in the city. Something I didn't know about
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 09, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
Oi, wonna buy an iPhone?

http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 09, 2011, 11:12:11 PM
Disgusting. Someone ask if he's black.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 10, 2011, 12:07:25 AM
Ok, lets say you stole 40 iPhones. It's a high demand item so it's likely you can sell each one. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TRY TO SELL ALL 40 AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME. You could probably pay your rent selling one every other week, using various emails
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Boogie on August 10, 2011, 12:08:04 AM

Doesn't look too good for the MET. First leaks to the press, Hans Soloing this guy and the perception of 'idly standing by' with rioters. Seems like incompetence all around.

I'm sorry, which part of that "looks bad"?  The fact that they didn't let buddy take a few shots at them before returning fire?

It's not the job of the police to let the bad guys take a couple free shots at us before our own use of lethal force is justified.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 10, 2011, 12:21:13 AM
Pretty sure the police said he shot first.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Boogie on August 10, 2011, 12:31:05 AM
Pretty sure the police said he shot first.

Well, for the officers involved, distortion of perception can be one of the psychological and physiological effects of stress.  Or they could have lied.  I ain't judging either way.  That's why we have investigations to determine whether shootings are justified or not.

On the PR front, I'll never deny that police forces tend to have fucked up, confused, or amateur messaging in situations like these.  It's not our strong suit.

Of course, if the Met releases no info at all pending the investigation, media types cry coverup.  If they try to get out in front of the story and release what they know/believe initially, they get roasted if later info says the initial info was inaccurate. Can't win.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 10, 2011, 01:02:24 AM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/434411-leana-hosea-speaks-to-croydon-looters-on-bbcworldservice

elektrikluv and friends
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 10, 2011, 01:13:26 AM
As expected: slags.

Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 10, 2011, 04:27:08 AM
I love how Iran is trolling the UK.

(http://i.min.us/il58qe.jpg)

boss Sikh standing guard

Sikh are fucking hardcore.

:bow :bow2
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 10, 2011, 04:42:39 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJkAo5f8mo4[/youtube]

Chemical Brothers + Slow Mo
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: T-Short on August 10, 2011, 08:56:40 AM
http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html (http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html)

huahua
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 10, 2011, 05:05:47 PM
It's interesting see other countries under the guidance of Murdoch tut-ting the UK

Quote from: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/british-rioters-the-spawn-of-a-bankrupt-ruling-elite/story-e6frg6zo-1226112640970
THE riots in London and elsewhere in Britain are a backhanded tribute to the long-term intellectual torpor, moral cowardice, incompetence and careerist opportunism of the British political and intellectual class.

They have somehow managed not to notice what has long been apparent to anyone who has taken a short walk with his eyes open down any frequented British street: that a considerable proportion of the country's young population (a proportion that is declining) is ugly, aggressive, vicious, badly educated, uncouth and criminally inclined.

Unfortunately, while it is totally lacking in self-respect, it is full of self-esteem: that is to say, it believes itself entitled to a high standard of living, and other things, without any effort on its own part.

Consider for a moment the following: although youth unemployment in Britain is very high, that is to say about 20 per cent of those aged under 25, the country has had to import young foreign labour for a long time, even for unskilled work in the service sector.
The headline does not suit the article

Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 13, 2011, 03:10:24 PM
Quote from: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/13/david-starkey-claims-whites-black
The historian and broadcaster David Starkey has provoked a storm of criticism after claiming during a televised discussion about the riots that "the problem is that the whites have become black".

In an appearance on BBC2's Newsnight, Starkey spoke of "a profound cultural change" and said he had been re-reading Enoch Powell's rivers of blood speech.

"His prophesy was absolutely right in one sense. The Tiber did not foam with blood but flames lambent, they wrapped around Tottenham and wrapped around Clapham," he said.

"But it wasn't inter-community violence. This is where he was absolutely wrong." Gesturing towards one of the other guests, Owen Jones, who wrote Chavs: the Demonisation of the Working Classes, Starkey said: "What has happened is that a substantial section of the chavs that you wrote about have become black."
Let's blame that damn rap music!
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 13, 2011, 04:02:11 PM
I think 'black culture' taps into a feeling that's already there not the other way around. Urban youth really have no community or culture because their upbringing has become solely materialistic. They have no connection to the suburbs they live since they don't know their neighbours or shop locally (apart from the supermarket which is a huge chain- Tescos) and it just becomes a place to crash. Hence once they get an opportunity to loot they do so and damage and burn the rest they can't take home with them.

The truth is I sort of agree with him. 'Rap culture' should be counter-culture and in the past it was. I mean in the end who profits from materialism? Usually a middle aged white man. Hip-Hop has sort of become fucked but it was always fucked. I can't listen to Jay or Kanye brag about how much money they have or who they fuck there is so much more to life than that.
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Post by: Cormacaroni on August 13, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
Enoch Powell, in case anyone is not aware, was a Nazi shitbag of the worst order and leading light of the British National Party. The 'rivers of blood' speech is a call to arms for racists to repatriate immigrants etc...anyone who endorses such sentiments is a danger to society, in other words.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 13, 2011, 04:33:26 PM
Did not know that. It's sort of funny how they even had a better class of racist in the 60's. I mean if somebody took a line from Virgil now it would be seen as highfalutin'.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: drew on August 13, 2011, 05:13:35 PM
i will now spend the rest of my day watching every single episode of brass eye in order on youtube :bow
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Post by: Herr Mafflard on August 13, 2011, 06:45:14 PM
Peter Oborne makes sense of it,

the looters are just following the examples set by the rich and the governing elite; and were incited by a systematic culture of dependency and entitlement, fostered in part by  'unemployment and indolence' as a way of life (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8698033/New-Labours-toxic-legacy.html)

Quote from:  http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100100708/the-moral-decay-of-our-society-is-as-bad-at-the-top-as-the-bottom/
David Cameron, Ed Miliband and the entire British political class came together yesterday to denounce the rioters. They were of course right to say that the actions of these looters, arsonists and muggers were abhorrent and criminal, and that the police should be given more support.

But there was also something very phony and hypocritical about all the shock and outrage expressed in parliament. MPs spoke about the week’s dreadful events as if they were nothing to do with them.

I cannot accept that this is the case. Indeed, I believe that the criminality in our streets cannot be dissociated from the moral disintegration in the highest ranks of modern British society. The last two decades have seen a terrifying decline in standards among the British governing elite. It has become acceptable for our politicians to lie and to cheat. An almost universal culture of selfishness and greed has grown up.

It is not just the feral youth of Tottenham who have forgotten they have duties as well as rights. So have the feral rich of Chelsea and Kensington. A few years ago, my wife and I went to a dinner party in a large house in west London. A security guard prowled along the street outside, and there was much talk of the “north-south divide”, which I took literally for a while until I realised that my hosts were facetiously referring to the difference between those who lived north and south of Kensington High Street.

Most of the people in this very expensive street were every bit as deracinated and cut off from the rest of Britain as the young, unemployed men and women who have caused such terrible damage over the last few days. For them, the repellent Financial Times magazine How to Spend It is a bible. I’d guess that few of them bother to pay British tax if they can avoid it, and that fewer still feel the sense of obligation to society that only a few decades ago came naturally to the wealthy and better off.

Yet we celebrate people who live empty lives like this. A few weeks ago, I noticed an item in a newspaper saying that the business tycoon Sir Richard Branson was thinking of moving his headquarters to Switzerland. This move was represented as a potential blow to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, because it meant less tax revenue.

I couldn’t help thinking that in a sane and decent world such a move would be a blow to Sir Richard, not the Chancellor. People would note that a prominent and wealthy businessman was avoiding British tax and think less of him. Instead, he has a knighthood and is widely feted. The same is true of the brilliant retailer Sir Philip Green. Sir Philip’s businesses could never survive but for Britain’s famous social and political stability, our transport system to shift his goods and our schools to educate his workers.

Yet Sir Philip, who a few years ago sent an extraordinary £1 billion dividend offshore, seems to have little intention of paying for much of this. Why does nobody get angry or hold him culpable? I know that he employs expensive tax lawyers and that everything he does is legal, but he surely faces ethical and moral questions just as much as does a young thug who breaks into one of Sir Philip’s shops and steals from it?

Our politicians – standing sanctimoniously on their hind legs in the Commons yesterday – are just as bad. They have shown themselves prepared to ignore common decency and, in some cases, to break the law. David Cameron is happy to have some of the worst offenders in his Cabinet. Take the example of Francis Maude, who is charged with tackling public sector waste – which trade unions say is a euphemism for waging war on low‑paid workers. Yet Mr Maude made tens of thousands of pounds by breaching the spirit, though not the law, surrounding MPs’ allowances.

A great deal has been made over the past few days of the greed of the rioters for consumer goods, not least by Rotherham MP Denis MacShane who accurately remarked, “What the looters wanted was for a few minutes to enter the world of Sloane Street consumption.” This from a man who notoriously claimed £5,900 for eight laptops. Of course, as an MP he obtained these laptops legally through his expenses.

Yesterday, the veteran Labour MP Gerald Kaufman asked the Prime Minister to consider how these rioters can be “reclaimed” by society. Yes, this is indeed the same Gerald Kaufman who submitted a claim for three months’ expenses totalling £14,301.60, which included £8,865 for a Bang & Olufsen television.

Or take the Salford MP Hazel Blears, who has been loudly calling for draconian action against the looters. I find it very hard to make any kind of ethical distinction between Blears’s expense cheating and tax avoidance, and the straight robbery carried out by the looters.

The Prime Minister showed no sign that he understood that something stank about yesterday’s Commons debate. He spoke of morality, but only as something which applies to the very poor: “We will restore a stronger sense of morality and responsibility – in every town, in every street and in every estate.” He appeared not to grasp that this should apply to the rich and powerful as well.

The tragic truth is that Mr Cameron is himself guilty of failing this test. It is scarcely six weeks since he jauntily turned up at the News International summer party, even though the media group was at the time subject to not one but two police investigations. Even more notoriously, he awarded a senior Downing Street job to the former News of the World editor Andy Coulson, even though he knew at the time that Coulson had resigned after criminal acts were committed under his editorship. The Prime Minister excused his wretched judgment by proclaiming that “everybody deserves a second chance”. It was very telling yesterday that he did not talk of second chances as he pledged exemplary punishment for the rioters and looters.

These double standards from Downing Street are symptomatic of widespread double standards at the very top of our society. It should be stressed that most people (including, I know, Telegraph readers) continue to believe in honesty, decency, hard work, and putting back into society at least as much as they take out.
But there are those who do not. Certainly, the so-called feral youth seem oblivious to decency and morality. But so are the venal rich and powerful – too many of our bankers, footballers, wealthy businessmen and politicians.

Of course, most of them are smart and wealthy enough to make sure that they obey the law. That cannot be said of the sad young men and women, without hope or aspiration, who have caused such mayhem and chaos over the past few days. But the rioters have this defence: they are just following the example set by senior and respected figures in society. Let’s bear in mind that many of the youths in our inner cities have never been trained in decent values. All they have ever known is barbarism. Our politicians and bankers, in sharp contrast, tend to have been to good schools and universities and to have been given every opportunity in life.

Something has gone horribly wrong in Britain. If we are ever to confront the problems which have been exposed in the past week, it is essential to bear in mind that they do not only exist in inner-city housing estates.

The culture of greed and impunity we are witnessing on our TV screens stretches right up into corporate boardrooms and the Cabinet. It embraces the police and large parts of our media. It is not just its damaged youth, but Britain itself that needs a moral reformation.
Title: Re: EURO DESK : *** London's Burning ***
Post by: Fresh Prince on August 13, 2011, 07:01:08 PM
^Pretty much. It just needs analysis of the overemphasis on the individual over society and Thatcher's quote, 'There is no such thing as society' and it's done.