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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM

Title: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/08/hp-webos-tablet-touchpad/

* will totally buy one at sub-$100 fire sale prices just to read comics on it
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 18, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/badtouch.png)

:lol
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 18, 2011, 05:38:42 PM
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"

~Amazon.com
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Robo on August 18, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Hey, five stars, though.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 18, 2011, 05:48:49 PM
I was at Best Buy yesterday, and they had just put up these enormous "HP TOUCHPAD!!!" ads on the front of the building, like 10x30 feet sized. I went past two BB's and both of them had one.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Tasty on August 18, 2011, 10:40:36 PM
If these end up being super cheap I'll totally buy one and then fake like I was a WebOS nerd from the beginning.

Looks like buying Palm was a HUGE mistake.

HP:

(http://i.imgur.com/UaDD3.gif)


If I could get Android to run on one of these things I'd pick it up for $50 or so.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 18, 2011, 11:43:27 PM
I want one for cheap too. No contract pixi for vzw is $45 on amazon

Hp is a multibiollion dollar company, theyve had palm for over a year and managed to get out one phone, one tablet, and fold up a month later. Pathetic.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 08:30:08 PM
16gb - $99
32gb - $149

Starting at midnight.

http://www.precentral.net/hp-begins-touchpad-liquidation-16gb-cut-99-32gb-149-1

Bestbuy Canada and Futureshop already implemented the price and are sold out


BestBuy USA will refund you the difference if you order it full price right now
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-Topics/Bestbuy.com-Price-Match-Guarantee/pcmcat204400050011.c?id=pcmcat204400050011


I think I will. I have two ipads in the house though
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 19, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
Fuck I might bite.

How is the hackability/independent support now that HP has washed their hand of things (I'm not to familar with how webOS cooperates with everything else)
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 08:42:14 PM
When I had a Pre the homebrew community was huge and they were not obstructed by Palm/HP
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 19, 2011, 08:44:04 PM
Mmm...$99. Don't know if want.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 08:47:49 PM
I have $50 in rewards points on my credit card. Buying one now and will have it price matched tomorrow.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: demi on August 19, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
$100 tablet does sound appealing, just to have a cheap solution.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 08:50:20 PM
uhhh bestbuy USA is sold out already at full price, I guess my idea wasnt unique

Does Amazon price match after your order?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 19, 2011, 08:56:45 PM
Might want to check instore, noticed they're still saying they have them in stock, i'd assume the midnight price will apply
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
It says not available in store when I look. Also it's probably too late/rainy for me to try that.

Not the end of the world I guess. I will check Amazon at midnight.

Is there some other store that has a price guarantee? Maybe staples or something?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 19, 2011, 09:29:08 PM
I would KILL for one. Fuck why do I have to work tommorow :(
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 09:31:01 PM
Ive been on hold with hp telesales for 10 minutes. If this doesnt work i will do walmart store pickup and demand a price adjustment tomorrow evening when i pick it up
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 09:47:27 PM
Ordering now by phone, free 3-5 day shipping, $434 will be billed and a $300 credit hits the account within a week.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 19, 2011, 09:47:52 PM
its up on hp.com but only for students :fbm
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 19, 2011, 09:53:02 PM
Doing in store shipping from BB, see if it works.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 19, 2011, 09:55:20 PM
just got one form hp.com :bow
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on August 19, 2011, 10:25:22 PM
I got 4 from our EPP account at work. These will make okay xmas gifts hua hua hua

Keeping one for myself, fuck at $99 I may as well try out this tablet thing no matter how shitty and undersupported the OS is.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on August 19, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
didn't realize that the fire sale would start THIS early, and direct from HP, no less...
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2011, 10:35:26 PM
i know my luck, i bet i won't be able to get it anywhere :(

oh well, they'll be all over ebay in a month at that price or lower
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2011, 11:05:36 PM
i know of one or two places nearby i can check tomorrow if i get there right at opening time, gonna go for the 32GB since it doesn't have an SD slot and everyone's gonna target the 99$ version

all i'm gonna do is read comic/ebooks and write on it, anyway
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2011, 11:13:26 PM
I miss my iPad something fierce :(
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 11:19:53 PM
I wonder if i Shoulda got 32gb. I might try to order one at midnight thru hp.com and cancel the original order
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: patrickula on August 19, 2011, 11:26:22 PM
It's crazy that they're ditching it before they even get a real new flagship phone out the door. The Pre 3 was just about to launch. What a huge money sink.

I always liked the user interface for WebOS too, and the keyboards...  :(
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2011, 11:36:37 PM
i wonder if i should try the walmart across the street at midnight
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 19, 2011, 11:41:20 PM
Before the first iPad came out I swore id never get one- then I did. I used it so much that when the iPad 2 came out and I was in the same building with it I picked up the highest end model. I'll buy the next version too.

Then again before World of Warcraft came out I swore i'd never play that, and I did...maybe a little too much. Apparently im just an early adopter h8tr
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 19, 2011, 11:42:43 PM
i just want to read comics/ebooks and write (i was surprisingly adept at typing on the ipad) and i am poor :(

good to see you here again, btw :)
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 19, 2011, 11:44:23 PM
Yeah, realized I needed people to talk about my hobbies with- very few around in real life. All the people I know are all respectable adults n shit- so I play their game but I gotta talk my  vidjas n gadgets somewhere. Tried Giant Bomb but their forums have so many rules so whatever.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 19, 2011, 11:47:13 PM
I saw you on giantbomb farmville comments and got mad jelly

Btw hp telesales is sold out of both models.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: patrickula on August 20, 2011, 12:15:12 AM
I have a feeling there must be some kind of weird accounting shenanigans going on with this abrupt announcement and immediate liquidation, it's like HP's looking for a huge loss.
Seems like they could have done this a lot more quietly and gradually.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 12:25:25 AM
shit on this, everyone's operating on pacific time and won't drop their prices until then, i'm not staying up for page timeouts, i'll just try my luck around town tomorrow morning, if everyone's sold out then i'll just wait for the buyer's remorse ebay/amazon marketplace/craigslist listings to spring up
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2011, 12:44:10 AM
Still $50 too much. And no Android yet. I will continue to wait. (http://i.imgur.com/Zxm47.gif)
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on August 20, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
aka dirty poor CHILD

I have a feeling there must be some kind of weird accounting shenanigans going on with this abrupt announcement and immediate liquidation, it's like HP's looking for a huge loss.
Seems like they could have done this a lot more quietly and gradually.

seems like HP is making this one big writeoff -- all the units they "sell" will be pure profit.

also, hi MAF
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Akala on August 20, 2011, 03:36:56 AM
Maffy! Let's all buy discontinued padz!

Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: chronovore on August 20, 2011, 04:01:20 AM
So everyone was thrilled with WebOS, HP bought it and killed it?

They are probably responsible for the disappearance of cold fusion as well! :punch
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 04:14:15 AM
couldn't sleep, so i wasted a bunch of time trying to snag one online, missed every single deal

i hope scalpers lose their shirts over this
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 20, 2011, 04:49:06 AM
i know of one or two places nearby i can check tomorrow if i get there right at opening time, gonna go for the 32GB since it doesn't have an SD slot and everyone's gonna target the 99$ version

all i'm gonna do is read comic/ebooks and write on it, anyway

fuck, there's no SD slot, I ordered the 16gb :fbm

oh well, i really only want it as an ereader and to finally experience the joy of surfing the web on the shitter.

can you set up a home network with your computer to transfer files?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 20, 2011, 05:00:15 AM
aka dirty poor CHILD

I have a feeling there must be some kind of weird accounting shenanigans going on with this abrupt announcement and immediate liquidation, it's like HP's looking for a huge loss.
Seems like they could have done this a lot more quietly and gradually.

seems like HP is making this one big writeoff -- all the units they "sell" will be pure profit.

also, hi MAF

There was a story that they're going IBM and selling of their entire personal computing division (don't know how official yet), maybe they want to clear the taint fo their mobile division before doing so.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 05:10:15 AM
i know of one or two places nearby i can check tomorrow if i get there right at opening time, gonna go for the 32GB since it doesn't have an SD slot and everyone's gonna target the 99$ version

all i'm gonna do is read comic/ebooks and write on it, anyway

fuck, there's no SD slot, I ordered the 16gb :fbm

oh well, i really only want it as an ereader and to finally experience the joy of surfing the web on the shitter.

can you set up a home network with your computer to transfer files?

dunno about that, but you can use drop box on it
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: naff on August 20, 2011, 05:59:57 AM
They killed Voodoo PC, now they're killing WebOS :maf

HP :piss2 On the other hand, I'm pretty keen on one of these. I always thought (from my limited exposure) that webOS was really nice  :'( If I can find a vendor that will ship to NZ I will happily pay 99 US + shipping, don't care about dead eco-system and whatnot. Nice IPS display and I can browse the net/watch flash video on it = Already better than iPad and most Android tablets (pre Honeycomb android tablets :lol)
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 20, 2011, 06:59:26 AM
Ordered another 32gb one and just won't pick up the 16gb one (instore pickup so my CC won't be charged)
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 20, 2011, 07:04:14 AM
They killed Voodoo PC, now they're killing WebOS :maf

HP :piss2 On the other hand, I'm pretty keen on one of these. I always thought (from my limited exposure) that webOS was really nice  :'( If I can find a vendor that will ship to NZ I will happily pay 99 US + shipping, don't care about dead eco-system and whatnot. Nice IPS display and I can browse the net/watch flash video on it = Already better than iPad and most Android tablets (pre Honeycomb android tablets :lol)

Seems like it's only NA that's having a firesale, but I don't see why it won't spread to other regions soon...this just seemed to have been sprung on NA retailers last night.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 07:45:34 AM
Got one.  I went to the Wal-mart across the street from me which only had one 32GB in stock, waited around 15 minutes for a manager to show up, and when he did he was all "dur-hur we don't price match the website it's prolly a glitch or a hack or sumthin lol" even though I explained what was going on. Decided to try the one 5 minutes down the road, and the manager there was pretty hip to what was going on, she'd already been asked about it by an employee.  They had around 10 in total, and as I was getting mine a couple of employees came around to buy, too :lol

Went with a 16GB.  Figured if I hated it it's better to lose $100 than $150.  Another consideration is that once the battery is dead on this thing, that's it, who knows if any third party will make replacements.  I also remembered when I had my 32GB iPad I always had about 12GB free space, and that was positively crammed with comics/bullshit apps/etc.  I never put videos or music on it, so I can live with 16GB.  I want to try and get another iPad sometime next year, if they go with the rumored Retina display.  This will be a neat little comic/ebook reader/toy until then.  I'm sure the homebrew community will keep doing stuff with it for a while.

Build quality is a bit suspect.  Mine had a couple of slight scuffs on the back straight out of the box (that glossy plastic feels kinda cheap), and there are flaws and imperfections where the plastic meets the front glass.  For $99 I'm not gonna complain, but I'd have been pissed had I sprang the original $500 for it.

I've only registered with WebOS and played around in the menus so far, but the touch typing feels good and responsive.  I like what I've seen so far with the neat drop down settings bar on the top right.  Screen looks really nice, not quite as good as the iPad did but viewing angles are great.  Installing the system update now, which is taking forever.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eric P on August 20, 2011, 08:02:12 AM
let me know how well it works on the comic front before i try to see if i can find one.

Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 20, 2011, 08:25:22 AM
Its already too late to find one
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 08:55:18 AM
There's only one .cbr/.cbz reader, called ComicShelf HD.  It's $2.  Decent, could be better, seems like the dev is on top of updates though (I believe he's gonna continue to support it).  You pinch to zoom, swipe left/right to change pages.  There's no way to organize your collection, and it doesn't save where you left off.  Pretty barebones, but works.  Comics look awesome on the IPS screen, as good as they do in the iPad.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 09:00:31 AM
Looking through the App catalog, there are way more apps than I thought there'd be.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 09:17:08 AM
There are a lot of things I like about this tablet. The keyboard is much better than the iPad, and the "card" multitasking is really neat.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 20, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
Went with a 16GB.  Figured if I hated it it's better to lose $100 than $150.  Another consideration is that once the battery is dead on this thing, that's it, who knows if any third party will make replacements.  I also remembered when I had my 32GB iPad I always had about 12GB free space, and that was positively crammed with comics/bullshit apps/etc.  I never put videos or music on it, so I can live with 16GB.  I want to try and get another iPad sometime next year, if they go with the rumored Retina display.  This will be a neat little comic/ebook reader/toy until then.  I'm sure the homebrew community will keep doing stuff with it for a while.

Just got back with a 32gb. Initially ordered a 16gb but once I heard tell of Android being ported over I figure I might load it up with apps I never would be able to fill with webOS.

Good thing too, because I bought both through in store pickup (and was just going to let the first order lapse) and they cancelled my 16gb order but the 32gb order couldn't have gone more smoothly.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2011, 10:46:32 AM
Just from playing around with it so far:

Having flash is really, really nice.  It drags sometimes, but it's a hell of a lot better than a page dotted with ? boxes everywhere.

Man, I totally dig typing on this.  All essential keys are present, and you don't have to dig through submenus for often-use punctuation marks, etc.  There's a free app called Typewriter which uses Markdown for rich text.

I'm genuinely impressed with the UI.  The word "intuitive" is way overused, but it really is.  I'm swiping all over the place.  The card system of layering your open apps on top of each other like a poker hand you flick through is awesome.  It isn't nearly as bad as the reviews suggested - but then again, I did the patch/update, and it may have been a mess before.  I wish Jobs would steal some of these ideas.

It's a bummer that the app catalog will never get fleshed out with apps by some of the big players like Netflix, but there is a decent amount of stuff out there already.
I don't even really want to hack it to Android, I'm finding WebOS so easy to use.

My screen has some light bleed in one corner, noticeable on the black boot screen but nowhere else (so far).  Again, suspect build quality on these things, not a lot of polish.  I was thinking about buying a case, but I'm not spending 1/4 of what I paid for the tablet on one.  I have an old netbook sleeve, that'll do.

The speakers sound great, full and rich.

All in all, I'm very happy with it for $99.  It's got a lot of nice features, and absolutely blows away any of those busted-ass Android 2.2/3 craptablets like Pandigital or Cruz.  I can read my comics and ebooks on it, I can type out notes and research, and I can listen to internet radio while I am doing it.  That's 90% of what I did on the iPad, so good enough for now.

The biggest problem, I think, was HP launching this thing at iPad prices with a limited app store.  They should've launched it in the $350 price range, made some deals for expected apps like Netflix/Hulu/etc. to come pre-installed - and most of all, optimized the fucking OS before they shipped it.  With the lack of hardware polish (seriously, the plastic back looks like a giant remote control), the buggy launch UI, and a dearth of apps, it is almost as if HP threw this thing out the door as quickly as possible knowing they were gonna shut it all down in a couple of months and take the write off.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 20, 2011, 12:08:39 PM
I'm liking it too, my only problem is I'd kinda like to get every app under the sun that tickles my fancy and obviously at this point that's a bit of a dead end with webOS, though I haven't really checked out the app store so maybe I'll be sated.

I bought it as a cheap ereader, casual web browser (and maybe a get back into comics, comics browser) so anything beyond that is just gravy.

If webOS still had the potential for app support that Android has I don't think I'd give trying a switch a second thought.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 20, 2011, 07:03:13 PM
Ive said it for years, webos > android
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 20, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
it takes a dying platform to bring MAF outta hiding can't wait till 360 dies and MAF comes back full time ~~
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Akala on August 20, 2011, 10:05:51 PM
Looks like the hp business site has them in stock. Me and a friend just got one. Site getting hammered, took forever.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eric P on August 21, 2011, 06:56:47 AM
Looks like the hp business site has them in stock. Me and a friend just got one. Site getting hammered, took forever.

I went there was able to add to cart but then got this when i went to check out.

Quote
Microsoft VBScript compilation error '800a03e9'

Out of memory

/LM/W3SVC/600510919/Root/dstore/global.asa, line 0

alas
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 21, 2011, 07:02:48 AM
Don't worry, all the technolooters will dump them shortly, and HP should have all those retail returns back in stock as well.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 21, 2011, 07:23:46 AM
I don't see how Amazon could have made this Kindle app more awkward to use. Maybe if it randomly shocked you while you're reading.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eric P on August 21, 2011, 08:43:31 AM
thanks to our own Dr Feelbad, I was able to grab one from bestbuy.com.  unfortunately all I could get was the free shipping, so I have no idea as to when it will actually show up.

this is the perfect pricepoint because all i wanted was the ability to read stolen archival copies of comic books and pdfs in a format better than a computer screen.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 21, 2011, 09:36:21 AM
Best Buy is going to have them in store today. They've decided not to send them all back to HP after all.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391466,00.asp
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 21, 2011, 09:38:32 AM
apparently stooples is selling the 16gb for $50 now, OOS online of course but might find one in-store
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 21, 2011, 10:14:43 AM
Installed Preware and did all the performance boosting patches, this thing really flies now.  The only one I am not sure I am keeping is a touch sensitivity patch, it requires a bit more precision than I am used to.  It's easy to install/remove all this stuff, btw, you do it right from the Preware app.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 21, 2011, 10:17:08 AM
HP has sold hundreds of times more Touchpads in the past couple of days than they than did in the other month and half since it's release. :lol
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Akala on August 21, 2011, 12:04:19 PM
Haven't got an email or anything from HP, which kind of bugs me, but looking at order status it looks like it was approved and everything. It it probably going to be a long Monday for the folks at HP.

Still not getting my hopes up 100% til I hear back from HP. Kinda surprised how much I ended up wanting one...I doubt a good tablet will be at this magic price point for a while, but there is a ton of demand for something like this at a sub-$200 price. Will be fun to analyze once all the dust settles.

Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: FatalT on August 21, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
My girlfriend and I waited in front of Best Buy for 3 hours and we were able to get two 32 GB TouchPads. I'm having problems downloading the software update for it and and loading web pages though. I'm guessing the systems are just being hammered or something? I dunno. It's a pretty cool little device though!
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 21, 2011, 12:33:29 PM
yeah, their servers are probably trashed, when i got mine early yesterday morning (around 7 a.m.) the download went by pretty quickly - but the install took forever
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 21, 2011, 12:46:24 PM
Mine only took a couple minutes, but I don't think they were getting hammered yet.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: FatalT on August 21, 2011, 12:50:36 PM
I'm installing the update now and my gf is downloading it. I restarted it and everything works now. Her download is going pretty slow but that's to be expected lol
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eric P on August 21, 2011, 12:55:41 PM
how good is the pdf functionality?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 21, 2011, 02:51:43 PM
about as good as it was on the first ipad - that is to say, slow

but it handles larger files better than the first ipad, and it has dropbox/box.net/google integration for transfers
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Post by: Mupepe on August 21, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
Scored one from Amazon. I spent a few hours trying to get one from hp's site last night so this morning it became a personal issue. I can finally feel better. This is good for me though. I don't get online much at home and when I feel like it even the laptop seems like too much work.  So this is great for a cheap tablet. Woot
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 21, 2011, 09:23:41 PM
haha, i installed "uberkernel" which has some built-in tweaks and lets you overclock to 1.5ghz (using another app called Govnah)

it's a stable kernel, has little to no effect on battery life (before HP shit the bed they had planned to release a white 4G Touchpad with a 1.5ghz proc, probably just overclocking the stock TP proc) and you can remove it easily, but i don't know why you would want to, this fucking thing screams now
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: FatalT on August 21, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
You guys are going to love it. This is the best purchase I've made since I got my iphone!
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: pilonv1 on August 21, 2011, 11:55:52 PM
There's places here selling them for $98 but none near work :(
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: muckhole on August 22, 2011, 11:51:32 AM
I spent Friday morning running around town trying to grab a couple of these for me and the sis. It was pretty frustrating, stopping by stores that had just opened, only to be told they were sold out, after seeing those particular locations having them in stock online. Dirty hoarding employees!  :maf

I'll just have to save my pennies and buy a current/non-discontinued tablet, but it's going to be hard to swallow dropping $500+ on one when I'll always know these were out there so cheap.


Also: MAF! :-*
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Mupepe on August 22, 2011, 11:52:53 AM
HP should have more stock soon.  I would bet that later this week it will be pretty easy to get one.  I think the sudden announcement and on a weekend is what made this the clusterfuck it is. 
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Post by: muckhole on August 22, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
I dunno, man. If they get any more in, it'll be me and my rural internet Vs. the deal-crazy masses F5'ing...that's why I went to some physical locations instead of trying to snag them online.

Hope you're right though. It would be great if they managed to have enough to go around, but I'm not too optimistic.

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Post by: Mupepe on August 22, 2011, 12:24:01 PM
Well if you're a GAF member, plenty of people on there said they're willing to sell their extras to other GAF members with no price hike.  Scour the threads and shoot them a PM.
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Post by: muckhole on August 22, 2011, 12:28:16 PM
Cool, I'll go poke around and see if I can find someone. Thanks!
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Post by: Mupepe on August 22, 2011, 12:57:39 PM
No problem!  Newegg is supposedly selling them in about 10 minutes or something.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: muckhole on August 22, 2011, 01:05:16 PM
Unfortunately, I'm a Canuck, and Newegg's Canadian arm didn't seem to have a product page for them when all this madness started. Dunno if they just never bothered getting them in. I'll keep checking though.
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Post by: Mupepe on August 22, 2011, 01:06:34 PM
Oh wow.  I never knew you were canadian!  Now I can see "I'm not racist, I have a Canadian friend!"
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Post by: demi on August 22, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
he isn't actually canadian
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
just fat
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Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327

Might be time to jump in. :D
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Post by: muckhole on August 22, 2011, 01:19:09 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
he isn't actually canadian
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
just fat
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Big-boned!

Oh wow.  I never knew you were canadian!  Now I can see "I'm not racist, I have a Canadian friend!"

I assumed my accent would give me away.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Mupepe on August 22, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
you never call me :(
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Post by: muckhole on August 22, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
Ahem..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/hotgraham/Nopepe.jpg)

Also on said page:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:drudge (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/hotgraham/Ooooh.jpg)  :drudge

 :omg
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Post by: Mupepe on August 22, 2011, 02:01:40 PM
 :lol :lol

I like to stay off the radar.  But if you want to contact me, you just have to ask  8)

Please don't look at much my home is worth  :'(

Also, seems like I might not be getting mine afterall.  OnSale apparently sold way too many.  They only had 4000 in stock and ran out in about 30 minutes so I'm not sure if I'm going to covered.  God I hope so.  Either that or hurry up and let me know so I can start searching again aholes.
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Post by: Dickie Dee on August 22, 2011, 02:08:21 PM
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327

Might be time to jump in. :D

They're doing an older, lamer version of android no? Current honeycomb is hard as it's full source hasn't been released but I'd read the next version (Ice Cream Sandwich) will be fully open source out of the gate.

Meanwhile, I'm actually loving webOS, just hesitant to buy any apps that won't be used when I eventually upgrade, whenever that may be.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
Mmm...Ice Cream Sandwich. :drool
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 22, 2011, 03:15:52 PM
Probably only app I'm considering is the comic reader one at 2 dollars, but it won't let me get past entering in my CC info at the moment.

Did read a pdf of one of GRRM Ice and Fire novellas yesterday and after rinally wrestling the pdf reader to the ground it wasn't a bad experience.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2011, 03:37:27 PM
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327

Might be time to jump in. :D

They're doing an older, lamer version of android no? Current honeycomb is hard as it's full source hasn't been released but I'd read the next version (Ice Cream Sandwich) will be fully open source out of the gate.

Meanwhile, I'm actually loving webOS, just hesitant to buy any apps that won't be used when I eventually upgrade, whenever that may be.

They said they'll switch to ICS if it's released before they finished. Which it probably will be since after some research it appears those guys are just a bunch of teens with no experience cooking ROMs.  :-\

Honeycomb source not being released still bugs the hell out of me. Most "evil" decision Google's made in a while.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 24, 2011, 02:05:20 PM
Kinda actually bummed that webOS is dead, I'm using it now and love it the most out of the three and really have no desire to upgrade other than obvious support.

RIP l'il guy  :'(
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eric P on August 24, 2011, 02:12:14 PM
my tablet is on the truck to be delivered now.   :hyper
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 24, 2011, 02:19:24 PM
Honestly, this was the most excited I've been about an electronic product in I don't know how long. It felt like xmas morning when BB actually had held my instore pick up order.

And and a day before I didn't even want a tablet.
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Post by: Mupepe on August 24, 2011, 02:20:09 PM
Bah.  I'm on hold with OnSale.  I need to find out for sure if I should be scavenging the earth for one still or not. 
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Post by: FatalT on August 24, 2011, 02:31:25 PM
Check your Best Buys guys! My store got 67 in tonight on the truck so it might be a nationwide shipment. I don't think anyone really knows about it so get in while you can!
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Post by: Mupepe on August 24, 2011, 02:32:37 PM
Bah.  I think I'm just going to give up.  I just got the cancellation email from Amazon while I was on hold.  It's not worth any extra effort.
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Post by: Eric P on August 24, 2011, 04:00:13 PM
just got mine.  the box is heavier than i thought it would be.

what are the essential apps?
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Post by: FatalT on August 24, 2011, 04:04:19 PM
My parents were just now able to get one each and my brother picked one up as well from the truck today.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 24, 2011, 04:07:15 PM
After you update to 3.02, do this to get it running at top speed, it's easy:

http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html

ComicShelf HD is the only .cbr/.cbz reader, not perfect but an update is coming

Typewriter Beta - rich text editor

QuickOffice is read-only right now but an editing update is coming

pReader Native (available from Preware) for ebooks

the only paid app on that list is ComicShelf HD, and it's only $2
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Post by: Eric P on August 24, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
fantastic.  thank you very much.
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Post by: Brehvolution on August 24, 2011, 04:44:40 PM
My parents were just now able to get one each and my brother picked one up as well from the truck today.
So what price is BB selling them at?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 24, 2011, 05:14:35 PM
fantastic.  thank you very much.

no prob!

the precentral forums are very helpful if you need any tech advice once you get rolling.

to be honest, i like it better than the first-gen ipad i had, aside from the dearth of apps.
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Post by: Eric P on August 24, 2011, 06:13:42 PM
My parents were just now able to get one each and my brother picked one up as well from the truck today.

on your advice i stopped by the union square bestbuy on my way home.  they anticipate a truck getting there at midnight.  I'm probably not interested enough to go at midnight, but I can certainly swing by before work tomorrow and check. 

edit: this update is taking forever.  keeps crapping out on me.
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Post by: Skidmark on August 24, 2011, 06:45:31 PM
Is it too late to order on of these online?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 24, 2011, 07:17:35 PM
Is it too late to order on of these online?

HP.com should have them back in stock in a few days.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 24, 2011, 09:42:18 PM
The initial setup on this thing ia fucking atrocious. Im looking at a spinning wheel for literally half an hour. Just to see the terms of service and log into my profile.
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Post by: Eric P on August 25, 2011, 06:01:53 AM
 i'm happy with my purchase.  it does what i want; rendering comics and pdfs fairly quickly and looking quite gorgeous.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 25, 2011, 06:14:10 AM
I cannot srt it up. I have had 2 palm phones that i loved but this thing i hate.

Start it up. Spinning circle for half an hour on hp terms and conditions. Reboot

Start it up. Hp terms load up in 5 seconds. Log into palm profile. Spinning circle for twenty minutes. Reboot

Repeat once more. Device crashes

Start it up. Hp terms load in 5 seconds. Palm profile login takes 5 seconds. Select pre 2 as prior device. Spinning circle for twenty minutes. Reboot

Start it up. Get up to the pre 2 import. Instead of halting at a quarter the bar goes up tp 5/6ths at a steady pace before coming to another complete halt. Reboot? Can i use tis fucking thing or not?!?!


Oh and it is a coin flp whether i will need to relogin to my wifi network between attempts. Or whether the power button will turn it on without alao holding the home button for 15 seconds. Ive had this for 12 hours and i still cant fucking use it.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 25, 2011, 06:20:59 AM
On my final attempt it just sits at the black hp load screen and cant be turned off. Guess i will leave it with the screen on all day until the battery dies. This is pathetic.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: muckhole on August 25, 2011, 09:00:20 AM
I've got 3 different orders in motion for one of these things for my sis, they're all from places that don't have stock, but seem to think they'll be getting some in shortly. From the sounds of it though, Canada won't be getting any of the 2nd rumoured batch except for an allotment to help HP.ca get through more of their pre-orders. 






Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Eric P on August 25, 2011, 09:16:27 AM
I cannot srt it up. I have had 2 palm phones that i loved but this thing i hate.

Start it up. Spinning circle for half an hour on hp terms and conditions. Reboot

Start it up. Hp terms load up in 5 seconds. Log into palm profile. Spinning circle for twenty minutes. Reboot

Repeat once more. Device crashes

Start it up. Hp terms load in 5 seconds. Palm profile login takes 5 seconds. Select pre 2 as prior device. Spinning circle for twenty minutes. Reboot

Start it up. Get up to the pre 2 import. Instead of halting at a quarter the bar goes up tp 5/6ths at a steady pace before coming to another complete halt. Reboot? Can i use tis fucking thing or not?!?!


Oh and it is a coin flp whether i will need to relogin to my wifi network between attempts. Or whether the power button will turn it on without alao holding the home button for 15 seconds. Ive had this for 12 hours and i still cant fucking use it.

that's absolutely shitty.  i only had issues with the download.  of all the times to get a defective unit...

could you try to make a new account then just associate your existing pre account with the device after you've booted it up? i don't have mine with me, so I can't tell you if you can add another pre account to the one already on the device.

edit: after missing out on some which were released at midnight, my gf called every Bestbuy in Manhattan.  No more are coming to the island apparently. 
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Mupepe on August 25, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
they'll always say shit like that if you call.  never ever call. 
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: FatalT on August 25, 2011, 12:42:46 PM
The Employee News basically said that the shipment stores are getting this week will be the last one. So if your store already got it in this week (like mine did), then oh well, shit outta luck. Stores should be getting in shipments of more of the 50% off accessories for it but that'll be it.

SORRY GUYS!

On the other hand, I laughed my ass off all morning at the lines of people coming up waiting for them. We kept telling them we didn't have any and they'd disperse like ants, only to have another line start up 10 minutes later.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 25, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
Never thought the hunt for them would still be going on, and maybe even getting more feverish.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 25, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
I cannot srt it up. I have had 2 palm phones that i loved but this thing i hate.

Start it up. Spinning circle for half an hour on hp terms and conditions. Reboot

Start it up. Hp terms load up in 5 seconds. Log into palm profile. Spinning circle for twenty minutes. Reboot

Repeat once more. Device crashes

Start it up. Hp terms load in 5 seconds. Palm profile login takes 5 seconds. Select pre 2 as prior device. Spinning circle for twenty minutes. Reboot

Start it up. Get up to the pre 2 import. Instead of halting at a quarter the bar goes up tp 5/6ths at a steady pace before coming to another complete halt. Reboot? Can i use tis fucking thing or not?!?!


Oh and it is a coin flp whether i will need to relogin to my wifi network between attempts. Or whether the power button will turn it on without alao holding the home button for 15 seconds. Ive had this for 12 hours and i still cant fucking use it.

that's absolutely shitty.  i only had issues with the download.  of all the times to get a defective unit...

could you try to make a new account then just associate your existing pre account with the device after you've booted it up? i don't have mine with me, so I can't tell you if you can add another pre account to the one already on the device.

edit: after missing out on some which were released at midnight, my gf called every Bestbuy in Manhattan.  No more are coming to the island apparently. 

That least reboot was enough, i got it working

Now it wont let me skype
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 25, 2011, 08:11:18 PM
Is there a homebrew mod that makes it disable horizontal motion when i am scrolling vertically in the browser?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 25, 2011, 09:54:18 PM
I gOt skype to work once but now it keeps saying im not signed in. When i click sign in, it says i already am.

The palm phones were a bit out of date but they were fully functional products that were fun to use. This thing is like fucking pulling teeth. Hp ruined palm.

Ive also made it crash several times just having 5 or 6 windows open. Not a full reboot, just a black screen for 20 seconds and all my shit is closed. So much for multitasking.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Mupepe on August 26, 2011, 10:27:13 AM
did you disable logging?
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 26, 2011, 07:01:46 PM
not at the time. I have now, and I have installed all the recommended patches. Id like a patch that locks scrolling in one direction when you are moving in the other axis
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: naff on August 26, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
Honeycomb source not being released still bugs the hell out of me. Most "evil" decision Google's made in a while.

Most (if not all) of the Honeycomb source/functionality is going to be released with ICS. I think it's fair enough that Google decided to retain a proprietary fork of the project optimised for tablets, don't really see how it's "evil", vendors pushed them into this by going against google and implementing 2.x in crappy ass tablets.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: Tasty on August 26, 2011, 09:44:42 PM
Honeycomb source not being released still bugs the hell out of me. Most "evil" decision Google's made in a while.

Most (if not all) of the Honeycomb source/functionality is going to be released with ICS. I think it's fair enough that Google decided to retain a proprietary fork of the project optimised for tablets, don't really see how it's "evil", vendors pushed them into this by going against google and implementing 2.x in crappy ass tablets.

And they're still releasing 2.x on tablets since the Honeycomb source isn't released. Only the big boys get Google's sweet stuff.

Releasing the source late is just contrary to the nature and goals of an open project. There's really no good reason for it.
Title: Re: WebOS sharts the bed, dozens of HP Touchpad buyers realize mistake*
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2011, 09:04:13 PM
has anyone found a app that streams content to the device?