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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:11:16 AM

Title: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:11:16 AM: They have an "event" today, but apparently Bloomberg already dropped the dime on it:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/amazon-fire-tablet-unveiled-7-inch-display-199-price-tag/

Forked version of Android 2.something, 7 inch screen, no camera, no mic. Rumor is this is a stopgap tablet so they can have something out for the holiday, and the bigger/better version is coming Q1 2012.

Bezos just announced the Kindle Touch Reader.

Updated version of the regular Kindle reader also dropping to $79, evidently.
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Post by: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 10:20:39 AM: Eh, I'll still get the Nook
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 28, 2011, 10:23:40 AM: hot shit
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2011, 10:24:28 AM: The ereaders seem nice but that tablet looks like a dud to me. It seems as limited as the nook color and that's pretty old already.

How does the $79 kindle work with no touchscreen or keyboard?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:26:40 AM: Kindle Touch is $99, has something called X-ray, where Wiki info and such pops up when you highlight words and phrases. That sounds pretty cool, actually. 3G version is $150.
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:29:43 AM: $79 version has no touch screen or keyboard, has buttons, no X-ray feature. I would imagine you have to scccccccccccccrrrrrrrrrroooooooooollllllllll through onscreen menus and keyboard. Probably targeted as just a straight ereader for people who already own tablets/ipads, or as a companion piece to their own tablet. I dunno why you wouldn't just spend the extra $20, though.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:40:19 AM: (http://images.scribblelive.com/2011/9/28/3814684d-3b93-432f-88a9-9796ad03e170.jpg)
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:53:11 AM: Kindle Fire has 7" Gorilla Glass IPS Display, dual core processor, multitasking, 8GB storage, whispersync for movies/tv, custom browser called Amazon Silk which allegedly loads faster than any other tablet browser by using cloud cache

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/amazonfire/amazonfire167.jpg)
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 10:54:21 AM: Ah fuck. Okay maybe I won't get the Nook color. Fuck.
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:57:07 AM: $79 Kindle ships today
$99 Kindle Touch Wifi and $150 Kindle Touch 3G ship Nov 21st
$199 Kindle Fire Tablet ships Nov 15th
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 28, 2011, 10:57:17 AM: RIP B&N
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 10:59:50 AM: yeah, this all sounds like a direct assault to squash B&N, they'll go after Apple next year
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:02:16 AM: best thing - you can "test drive" apps on the store using a simulator
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 28, 2011, 11:05:17 AM: Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on September 28, 2011, 10:59:50 AM
yeah, this all sounds like a direct assault to squash B&N, they'll go after Apple next year

Their stock is down 8% today
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 11:05:54 AM: Well the number one reason I want an e reader is for digital comics. Does Amazon have DC, Marvel and Image stuff? I know I can get all 3 on the Nook at least and load them up manually for whatever I can't find. Can I do the same thing on the Kindle?
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 28, 2011, 11:07:16 AM: Quote from: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
Well the number one reason I want an e reader is for digital comics. Does Amazon have DC, Marvel and Image stuff? I know I can get all 3 on the Nook at least and load them up manually for whatever I can't find. Can I do the same thing on the Kindle?

No. The Kindle is for grown-ups. :P

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Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:08:53 AM: Amazon has their own version of the Android App store. You can go check it out and see if the apps you want are there:

http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/ref=topnav_storetab_mas?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 11:09:56 AM: :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow v

now to decide if i want to just get the $99 or the $149 model.
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:10:15 AM: here's the books and comics category:

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=mas_lftnav_BooksComics?ie=UTF8&node=2478833011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_r=1NPHRN842G7MN01D4VN0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1315033902&pf_rd_i=2350149011
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 11:12:49 AM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 28, 2011, 11:07:16 AM
Quote from: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
Well the number one reason I want an e reader is for digital comics. Does Amazon have DC, Marvel and Image stuff? I know I can get all 3 on the Nook at least and load them up manually for whatever I can't find. Can I do the same thing on the Kindle?

No. The Kindle is for grown-ups. :P

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Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on September 28, 2011, 11:08:53 AM
Amazon has their own version of the Android App store. You can go check it out and see if the apps you want are there:

http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/ref=topnav_storetab_mas?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
Bah. No DC comics. No Marvel comics. Not even a comixology app.

I guess I could load them manually as PDF's but I want the convenience of being able to download them.

Fuck and this thing doesn't come out til Nov 15th right? I wanted to buy an ereader in a week or two. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:15:00 AM: http://www.amazon.com/Graphicly-Comics/dp/B004T41T26/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=mobile-apps&qid=1317222886&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:17:03 AM: also i'd imagine their appstore will grow in size by leaps and bounds before this tablet comes out, so you might want to keep checking

i think they pretty much just claimed the 7" tablet market
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Mandark on September 28, 2011, 11:20:05 AM: Is there a way to buy gift ebooks for someone else's Amazon/Kindle account?

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Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2011, 11:20:24 AM: Quote from: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 11:12:49 AM
Fuck and this thing doesn't come out til Nov 15th right? I wanted to buy an ereader in a week or two. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu

/whitewhine
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:22:55 AM: Quote from: Mandark on September 28, 2011, 11:20:05 AM
Is there a way to buy gift ebooks for someone else's Amazon/Kindle account?

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200555070
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 28, 2011, 11:27:23 AM: Its a shame the death of an e-reader probably means the death of a bookstore chain- i've always liked B&N...hell I liked Borders stores too. But at least we'll have...a whatever all the more reason to order books in my underwear.
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:31:12 AM: i wouldn't count out b&n yet, they still have their nook color 2 to announce, and of all the bookstore chains they are the most likely to be left the one still standing

they've certainly just been marginalized, though
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:39:16 AM: also, mups: in my opinion, reading comics on anything less than an ipad-sized screen is kinda :-\

you have to zoom in all the time, or read in landscape mode, i had an android craptablet once and at that size reading comics wasn't a great experience

if you are mainly going to use a tablet to read comics i would pick up one of the android honeycomb tablets out right now, like the acer iconia or asus transformer, those have 16:10 1280x800 screens, which is almost the perfect size for a comic page, and you can get some pretty sweet deals on factory refurbs if you check around
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Post by: Mupepe on September 28, 2011, 11:41:17 AM: hmm might do that then. Because yeah, I pretty much want it for reading comics and books when I'm feeling lazy in bed. Comics is a huge, huge part though. Web browsing on it is a plus though.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:43:43 AM: this is what comics are gonna look like on a 10.1 " 16:10 1280x800 screen

[youtube=560,345]RgC-pu-GMwY[/youtube]

some of that shit the guy is talking about has nothing to do with the tablet and everything to do with the scanner used to make the digital copy
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 28, 2011, 11:43:59 AM: B&N wont come out on top, Kindle has mindshare, and you cant beat that without huge efforts and $$$. Half the people who talk about e-readers call e-readers 'kindles', people say 'google it' instead of search for it, iphone's flaws and apples misteps are easily forgotten because thats all people have in their heads. Its a stupid aspect of being a consumer but there you have it.
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Post by: Cheebo on September 28, 2011, 11:44:40 AM: Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on September 28, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
i wouldn't count out b&n yet, they still have their nook color 2 to announce, and of all the bookstore chains they are the most likely to be left the one still standing

they've certainly just been marginalized, though
B&N doesn't have a fraction of the resources that Amazon does. They can't put out something on the scale that Amazon is doing for the same price. The price alone easily means the Kindle will be the (non-Apple) tablet everyone will be getting as gifts this Christmas as opposed to what B&N has to offer.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:48:19 AM: I never said they were gonna win or come out on top, mainly because I don't care about that kind of thing

I just said they'd survive, people still like going into their stores

The warehouse Books-A-Million type stores of the country might fade away, but I think B&N will stick around a while (although on a smaller scale)
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 28, 2011, 11:53:31 AM: Its over man :*(

Truth be told, I dont mind buying everything from Amazon- I do mind the sweatshop like conditions of their warehouses tho- feelin all shitty about ordering a book is lame.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 28, 2011, 12:03:13 PM: i've worked in warehouses before, they're all sort of like that

the good thing about them is you're so busy the day just flies by, 8-10 hours seems like half that time
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Post by: MrAngryFace on September 28, 2011, 12:04:16 PM: I dunno, Amazon warehouses have paramedics on site to deal with people who pass out- thats fucked up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/amazon-allentown_n_971851.html
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2011, 12:10:35 PM: The Asus transformer is pretty hot.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 28, 2011, 12:11:34 PM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on September 28, 2011, 12:04:16 PM
I dunno, Amazon warehouses have paramedics on site to deal with people who pass out- thats fucked up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/amazon-allentown_n_971851.html

what are you talking about, that's responsible! :spin
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 12:36:51 PM: kinda want that tablet too. been wanting to get a tablet for awhile and this is kind of perfect.

gonna be a good christmas
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Post by: Beezy on September 28, 2011, 12:43:21 PM: :bow Kindle :bow2

I'm fine with the one I got now, but I'd get the touchscreen one if I decided to upgrade. Any word on if the e-ink refreshes quicker on these when turning pages?
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 12:51:40 PM: Quote from: Beezy on September 28, 2011, 12:43:21 PM
Any word on if the e-ink refreshes quicker on these when turning pages?

yeah it does, apparently
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Post by: Himu on September 28, 2011, 12:54:00 PM: HOLY FUCK I KNOW WHAT I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS
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Post by: Beezy on September 28, 2011, 12:55:43 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 12:51:40 PM
Quote from: Beezy on September 28, 2011, 12:43:21 PM
Any word on if the e-ink refreshes quicker on these when turning pages?

yeah it does, apparently

Cool, maybe I will upgrade when I get the chance.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 12:55:52 PM: I'LL BUY IT FOR YOU!!!

(NOT REALLY)
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Post by: Cheebo on September 28, 2011, 01:01:03 PM: Does Amazon make a lot off ebook sales? They are slowly killing off hardcopy books.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2011, 01:03:08 PM: How does the TV streaming work? DLNA or do I need a Kindle box or some shit
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Post by: Cheebo on September 28, 2011, 01:05:57 PM: Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
How does the TV streaming work? DLNA or do I need a Kindle box or some shit
It's just an app for Amazon's streaming service. Like how Netflix is on iPad and the like. I think Amazon said Netflix will be on this as well.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2011, 01:08:43 PM: And how does this app get onto my TV? DLNA through the tablet or through some other device?
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Post by: Cheebo on September 28, 2011, 01:22:52 PM: I believe the tablet? They didn't annouce anything outside of the 4 kindles.
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Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2011, 01:55:10 PM: I still haven't bought the new(old)touch nook, so I might get one of these.

are either the 79 or 99 versions higher res? what's the difference anyway? they look the same

ok, so that's deceptive. the $79 nook isn't touch screen, so typing and everything is done on the small directional pad. or am I still reading this wrong?
Title: Re: Amazon Kindle Fire Tablet ($199) + $99 Kindle Touch + $79 Kindle
Post by: Cheebo on September 28, 2011, 01:59:42 PM: Quote from: Linkzg on September 28, 2011, 01:55:10 PM
I still haven't bought the new(old)touch nook, so I might get one of these.

are either the 79 or 99 versions higher res? what's the difference anyway? they look the same
The 99 one has better battery life and more storage than the 79 one (in addition to being touch screen). Both have the new e-ink screens that are better than the ones on the previous kindles. I believe they are about equal to the nook's screen since the new kindles only refresh every 6 pages like the nook.
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Post by: Himu on September 28, 2011, 05:57:56 PM: WILL MARVEL, DC AND VIZ RELEASE APPS FOR THIS SO I CAN GET MY MANGA AND WESTERN COMICS ON ??? ???

that would be the BOILING point for me. I would JIZZ SO HARD.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 24, 2011, 05:11:01 PM: So how is the kindle fire?

And by "how" I mean how hackable is it...
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Post by: ManaByte on November 24, 2011, 08:35:23 PM: It was rooted the day it came out.