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Title: Now this is pod racing.
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2011, 03:46:37 PM: Totally wizard. 8)
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Post by: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2011, 03:57:20 PM: Just finished watching this on bluray- nice looking movie but goddamn is most of it stupid.
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Post by: Raban on October 09, 2011, 03:58:23 PM: Man, Star Wars Episode 1: Racer was so good
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 09, 2011, 04:01:42 PM: Quote from: Raban on October 09, 2011, 03:58:23 PM
Man, Star Wars Episode 1: Racer was so good

ya it was
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 09, 2011, 06:12:15 PM: OH ANNIE! :heart
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2011, 07:10:33 PM: Garbage movie.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2011, 07:16:40 PM: Quote from: Raban on October 09, 2011, 03:58:23 PM
Man, Star Wars Episode 1: Racer was so good

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/smh1.gif)
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Post by: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2011, 07:20:40 PM: Why didn't obi wan use jedi speed to shoot through the corridor while the barriers were down so he could save Ra's al Ghul?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2011, 07:22:30 PM: Why did a little kid who'd never been in fighter before have to accidentally save the day?
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Post by: Dickie Dee on October 09, 2011, 07:22:38 PM: Are you an Angel? :-[
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2011, 07:22:57 PM: Also, why are the Gungans even in this movie?
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 09, 2011, 07:23:54 PM: When that nerd pointed out in those video series about how no one looks fazed by fucking anything in the world (for example Obi wan standing there when General Dookie pulls out 8 fucking lightsabers) aboslutely ruined it for me.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 09, 2011, 07:24:28 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2011, 07:22:57 PM
Also, why are the Gungans even in this movie?

To save Nabooie because Nabooie's army was captured.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2011, 07:26:51 PM: !
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 09, 2011, 07:30:40 PM: I hate this movie almost as much as I hate sand! :maf
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 09, 2011, 08:14:19 PM: I've watched the deleted scenes on the bonus discs, but I haven't bothered watching any of the movies.
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Post by: Bildi on October 10, 2011, 07:03:47 AM: Senators, trade routes, taxes.

:rock
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Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2011, 08:11:26 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2011, 07:20:40 PM
Why didn't obi wan use jedi speed to shoot through the corridor while the barriers were down so he could save Ra's al Ghul?

This, right here.

It's also funny that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are always going on about being emotionless, but Obi beats Maul in a rage-driven fit.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 10, 2011, 09:01:52 AM: the infinite stupidity of this movie is equalled only by the infinite stupidity of the fans who continue to find new ways to rationalize its stupidity. star wars threads on gaf hurt my head in ways only sugared cocktails and autistic episodes with a tack hammer can
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 10, 2011, 10:37:29 AM: Quote from: AWESOM-O on October 10, 2011, 08:01:54 AM
Seriously, how can one ship blockade anything? You're talking about three-dimensional space. To effectively blockade a planet, I think you need, at minimum, six ships with some damn fucking incredible long-range weapons systems. Since it's well demonstrated that Star Wars capital ships can't hit anything, that number goes up by a few orders of magnitude.

The Trade Federation were a bunch of fucking morons.

Didn't the opening of the movie show the blockade with dozens and dozens of huge ships like the one destroyed at the end?
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Post by: MrAngryFace on October 10, 2011, 11:41:58 AM: But at the end only the droid control ship was there- which was convenient for bad at starfighting pilots
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 10, 2011, 12:03:21 PM: Here's another fun fact: All three secondary villains [Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and General Grevious] have absolutely no backstory in the movie series and, instead, just randomly appear before eventually being killed off.
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Post by: cool breeze on October 10, 2011, 12:51:20 PM: I like the Darth Maul fight at the end

[youtube=560,345]eO6Z6JjwATM[/youtube]

Lightsaber fights, and most action, in the next two movies were junk.

I also realized that I mostly like Star Wars because of the video games. Empire Strikes Back is amazing and I like A New Hope, but Return of the Jedi is mostly bad (cept for Luke's scenes). Of the prequels, there's that Darth Maul fight...yeah. Old space flight games, Dark Forces/Jedi Knight, KOTOR, and others are awesome.
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Post by: Raban on October 10, 2011, 05:38:47 PM: Quote from: dcharlie on October 09, 2011, 08:10:25 PM
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Man, Star Wars Episode 1: Racer was so good

Racer - poor
Racer : Arcade - lower tier good

I agree with this comparison, but I've never played Racer: Revenge. Will look for now.

It'll be hard to adjust my eyes for Star Wars branded things, it's been a while since the boycott began.
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Post by: Dickie Dee on October 10, 2011, 05:43:28 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 10, 2011, 12:03:21 PM
Here's another fun fact: All three secondary villains [Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and General Grevious] have absolutely no backstory in the movie series and, instead, just randomly appear before eventually being killed off.

I think Dooku calls Yoda his former master in II, implying he's a turned Jedi. Not much apart from that.
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Post by: Bildi on October 10, 2011, 10:55:51 PM: In spite of it being poor, it DID grace us with an awesome lightsaber fight, and accompanying kick-ass music (Duel of the Fates I think it's called?).

Quote from: AWESOM-O on October 10, 2011, 08:01:54 AM
Seriously, how can one ship blockade anything? You're talking about three-dimensional space. To effectively blockade a planet, I think you need, at minimum, six ships with some damn fucking incredible long-range weapons systems. Since it's well demonstrated that Star Wars capital ships can't hit anything, that number goes up by a few orders of magnitude.

The Trade Federation were a bunch of fucking morons.

I think you're only allowed to fly to planets in line with the equator. Space etiquette.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 11, 2011, 12:31:48 AM: It's like saying that chlamydia is the best venereal disease.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on October 11, 2011, 12:35:28 AM: Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 11, 2011, 12:17:36 AM
How was this piece of shit the best of the prequels?

Didn't have George Lucas trying to direct a love story
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 11, 2011, 01:22:23 AM: Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 11, 2011, 12:17:36 AM
How was this piece of shit the best of the prequels?

well

Phantom Menace: shitty, but has Darth Maul
Attack of The Clones: one of the worst films of all time
Revenge Of the Sith: some cool action, but one of the worst written films of all time

So basically it's a toss up between PM and ROTS. I'd say ROTS wins. Let's break things down even further

Phantom Menace:
+Darth Maul
-JAR JAR BINKS
-Anakin being distinguished mentally-challenged

Revenge Of The Sith:
+Great musical score
+Order 66
-Anakin's lolworthy conversion

Clearly ROTS wins
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Post by: MrAngryFace on October 11, 2011, 01:26:12 AM: God damnit Jar Jar is shit
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Post by: Pringo on October 11, 2011, 01:28:16 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 11, 2011, 01:22:23 AM
Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 11, 2011, 12:17:36 AM
How was this piece of shit the best of the prequels?

well

Phantom Menace: shitty, but has Darth Maul
Attack of The Clones: one of the worst films of all time
Revenge Of the Sith: some cool action, but one of the worst written films of all time

So basically it's a toss up between PM and ROTS. I'd say ROTS wins. Let's break things down even further

Phantom Menace:
+Darth Maul
-JAR JAR BINKS
-Anakin being distinguished mentally-challenged

Revenge Of The Sith:
+Great musical score
+Order 66
-Anakin's lolworthy conversion

Clearly ROTS wins

Anakin was distinguished mentally-challenged in both movies and Ep. 1 had sweet music too. That's a tie right there.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on October 11, 2011, 01:30:59 AM: I have the high ground n shit

(http://www.dynamicdiscord.com/BrianStuff/Episode_3/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west_files/sw325zl.jpg)
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 11, 2011, 01:32:42 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on October 11, 2011, 01:30:59 AM
I have the high ground n shit

(http://www.dynamicdiscord.com/BrianStuff/Episode_3/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west_files/sw325zl.jpg)

guess they were playing StarCraft 2
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 11, 2011, 09:25:17 AM: Quote from: Wrath2X on October 11, 2011, 03:15:25 AM
I met people in real life claiming Attack Of The Clones was awesome :-\

They've probably never rewatched it since it first came out. I was able to fool myself into thinking that it was pretty good when I saw it in theaters, but then I watched it again when the DVD came out and :yuck :yuck :yuck
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Post by: chronovore on October 11, 2011, 07:52:22 PM: Quote from: AWESOM-O on October 11, 2011, 06:53:40 AM
"I have the high ground" was such contrived bullshit.
Yes.

Quote from: Mamacint on October 10, 2011, 05:43:28 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 10, 2011, 12:03:21 PM
Here's another fun fact: All three secondary villains [Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and General Grevious] have absolutely no backstory in the movie series and, instead, just randomly appear before eventually being killed off.
I think Dooku calls Yoda his former master in II, implying he's a turned Jedi. Not much apart from that.
Yeah, essentially Dooku is Yoda's failure, just as Anakin will become Obi-Wan's. OH, LOOK: PARALLELS.

edit: fixed über format-fail
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 11, 2011, 08:00:56 PM: At least 1 had some personality, and some motivation for its characters.

I retconned my opinion on them though, as I haven't seen any of them since each was in theaters and each time I thought the newer one was better than the last.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 12, 2011, 12:05:10 AM: Quote from: AWESOM-O on October 11, 2011, 11:38:42 PM
Yeah, I really liked Episode II when I saw it as a 17 year old. I thought it was at least 10x better than Episode I.

Same. :-\
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Post by: Cheebo on October 12, 2011, 08:22:45 AM: All 3 prequels have great scores, the existance of these so-called movies are almost worth it just to hear those Williams scores.
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Post by: Mupepe on October 12, 2011, 08:26:45 AM: RIP puppet Yoda :'(
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Post by: Himu on October 12, 2011, 08:35:43 AM: The Phantom Menace is an utterly forgettable film that has okay, if flawed ideas. I think the biggest problem with the film, characters aside, is Anakin. He's just doing random shit and has no clue what is at stake. TPM is the best of the prequels because it's not insultingly pandering to fan wank or merely a poor display for awesome cgi (though it has this too, the pod race should have been a few minutes shorter, with more time dedicated to actually building up the characters).

I don't think I want to see Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith ever again unless on rifftrax.
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Post by: chronovore on October 12, 2011, 09:33:09 AM: The thing is, Lucas outlined this massive setting in the first three movies he made, and this epic fall-from-grace of Anakin to becoming Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith...

But when he finally made the prequels, it turns out everyone is someone else's parent, creator, clone, or mentor. The Star Wars universe contracted into a small group of a dozen or so interconnected players, and Anakin quick-flipped to the Dark Side for no truly apparent reason or temptation other than teen angst.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 12, 2011, 10:31:41 AM: [youtube=560,345]r1T9-wxjm0U[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]Ng-QLo2hHn0[/youtube]

:bow John Williams doin' thangs :bow2
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 17, 2011, 05:37:25 PM: while i hate to weigh in, phantom menace at least kinda works as a CG version of a shitty B-tier muppet movie from the 80s, right down to the cornball jokes and tagalong human protagonist. shame the docent has to be jarjar binks, though.

the other two prequels are unimaginably bad, because they take themselves 101% seriously, putting you right in position for the two-handed gut punch that is their writing and "cinematography".
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Post by: Mandark on October 17, 2011, 07:39:39 PM: Quote from: chronovore on October 12, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
The thing is, Lucas outlined this massive setting in the first three movies he made, and this epic fall-from-grace of Anakin to becoming Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith...

But when he finally made the prequels, it turns out everyone is someone else's parent, creator, clone, or mentor. The Star Wars universe contracted into a small group of a dozen or so interconnected players, and Anakin quick-flipped to the Dark Side for no truly apparent reason or temptation other than teen angst.

Seriously.

[youtube=560,345]9hCJ4qIOU8U[/youtube]

The entire Palpatine/Anakin arc, executed better and condensed into a little over a minute.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 17, 2011, 07:56:12 PM: I'm still mad that they took the perfect setup for a really awesome space battle in Episode 3 and then just totally wasted it by spending most of the time focused on those stupid little robots that attach themselves to Obi-Wan's ship.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 17, 2011, 08:15:00 PM: Episode 1: Potentially good space battle ruined by focusing on a kid pilot who is totally clueless and saves the day BY ACCIDENT [contrast with A New Hope where an experienced pilot, at least in his late teens, watches everyone get shot down around him and manages finally to get off the kill shot at the last possible second]

Episode 2: This one had the asteroid chase with Obi-Wan and Jango, right? I guess it compares somewhat favorably to the asteroid chase from The Empire Strikes Back, but it really lacks in tension. Oh, and the kid version of Boba Fett is even more annoying than the kid version of Anakin in that scene. So...I guess it really doesn't compare favorably at all...

Episode 3: Two huge fleets engaged in combat over Coruscant, but, oh, we get a couple shots of ship-to-ship combat and then the rest of the time is spent on Obi-Wan dealing with those stupid robots on his ship.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2011, 08:24:46 PM: Come to think of it, there are only like three interesting/good battle scenes in the prequels: Darth Maul v Obi Wan/Qui Gon in Ep I, Anakin v Saruman in Ep II, and Anakin v Obi Wan in Ep III. Everything else is just an onslaught of shit being thrown at the wall, hoping something sticks.

That Darth Maul battle could be ranked with the original trilogy in terms of just how good it is.
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Post by: Boogie on October 17, 2011, 09:12:39 PM: Quote from: Mandark on October 17, 2011, 07:39:39 PM

Seriously.

[youtube=560,345]9hCJ4qIOU8U[/youtube]

The entire Palpatine/Anakin arc, executed better and condensed into a little over a minute.

haha, wow, it's sad because it's true.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 17, 2011, 09:20:18 PM: i forgot how dope the xmen movies where. is first class as dope?
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Post by: Boogie on October 17, 2011, 09:23:04 PM: Quote from: The Worst Poster Ever on October 17, 2011, 09:20:18 PM
i forgot how dope the xmen movies where. is first class as dope?

I liked it. It was fun.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2011, 09:27:19 PM: First Class is the best X-Men movie
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Post by: cool breeze on October 17, 2011, 09:38:08 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2011, 08:24:46 PM
Come to think of it, there are only like three interesting/good battle scenes in the prequels: Darth Maul v Obi Wan/Qui Gon in Ep I, Anakin v Saruman in Ep II, and Anakin v Obi Wan in Ep III. Everything else is just an onslaught of shit being thrown at the wall, hoping something sticks.

That Darth Maul battle could be ranked with the original trilogy in terms of just how good it is.

The lightsaber action in episode 2 and 3 are really boring. Actually, pretty much all action was boring in those movies.

I remember laughing in the theater when Anakin and Obi Wan are tarzan swinging on wires occasionally taking swipes at each other. It's so over the top and stupid.

also, revenge of the jedi was pretty whack for the most part. everything that happened on that forest planet, save for the speeder bikes, was really boring.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2011, 09:40:14 PM: It's definitely the most over the top lightsaber fight but I thought it was still good.
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Post by: cool breeze on October 17, 2011, 09:42:36 PM: the fight was settled because Obi Wan was standing a few feet higher than Anakin

this is after 15 minutes of acrobatics around a lava planet
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2011, 09:45:09 PM: High ground is very important, haven't you played SC2?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:fbm i thought it was cool
[close]
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 17, 2011, 10:54:22 PM: Quote from: Mandark on October 17, 2011, 07:39:39 PM
Quote from: chronovore on October 12, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
The thing is, Lucas outlined this massive setting in the first three movies he made, and this epic fall-from-grace of Anakin to becoming Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith...

But when he finally made the prequels, it turns out everyone is someone else's parent, creator, clone, or mentor. The Star Wars universe contracted into a small group of a dozen or so interconnected players, and Anakin quick-flipped to the Dark Side for no truly apparent reason or temptation other than teen angst.

Seriously.

[youtube=560,345]9hCJ4qIOU8U[/youtube]

The entire Palpatine/Anakin arc, executed better and condensed into a little over a minute.

Word. Instead of the contrived "I maybe might be able to tell you how to revive someone who isn't even dead" shit, maybe palpating could have actually used the themes of power and temptation from the original movies. Then instead of the stupid "you ratted me out to mace windu and then killed him for trying to arrest me" thing, maybe the Jedi could have viewed the defensive clone army as an abomination and an akin could be convinced to turn away from them to save the republic from the droid threat (the droids would have to actually be threatening). Also don't make him 12 in the first movie, you lose 1/3rd of the setup on nothing
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 17, 2011, 11:01:52 PM: In Episode 2, Obi-Wan spends more than half the movie looking for the clone army. Then, at the end, Yoda shows up and he's like "Oh yeah, we got a clone army now".
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Post by: chronovore on October 18, 2011, 08:09:39 AM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 17, 2011, 11:01:52 PM
In Episode 2, Obi-Wan spends more than half the movie looking for the clone army. Then, at the end, Yoda shows up and he's like "Oh yeah, we got a clone army now".

Yeah, this absolutely killed me. I was willing to go unbelievably far, willing to suspend disbelief in service of the story, but considering that Yoda and all the Jedi completely accept the sudden appearance of an army OF MILLIONS from nowhere... no wait, a planet which had been IMPOSSIBLY ERASED from the Jedi Hall of Records, and no-one, not a single one of them, is even raising an eyebrow.

There were two whole plotlines in Attack of the Clones, and the finale inherently, completely negates one of them.