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Title: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 08:53:19 PM
Just started up quest mode for VF5 PS3.  Chose Aoi.  Why didn't this game catch on here?  I feel like its technicality is a little overblown. 

So, here's thread to tide us over until VF5 Final Showdown in late 2012  :-\
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 09:07:12 PM
that's vf5 though.  Other fighting games grew their followings well before the revival, but VF has always been like "yeah, everyone knows it's good, but nobody plays it."   Needs more herp and derp and anime, maybe?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on December 23, 2011, 10:09:34 PM
I feel like its technicality is a little overblown. 

I think it's overblown in the sense that it leads people into thinking they need to be a master to even touch the game, when in reality VF is actually extremely easy to pick up and play. It's basically the epitome of "easy to learn, difficult to master".

Final Showdown is obviously going to be the best game ever. Can't wait to try Jean :hyper
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 10:13:37 PM
Oh, I dunno, VF4 sold really, really well in NA.  Between the original version and the GH Evolution version, it sold numbers that would put it in the upper tier of fighting game sales this generation.  VF3 was an iffy port that released in NA a little after Soul Calibur, VF2 did excellent numbers considering the system it was on, and VF1 was an arcade hit.  The only real soft-sellers in the series have been VF3tb and VF5 360.  Even the PS3 version of VF5 didn't do *that* badly.


I'm talking about #esports, not sales, but yeah, it has sold pretty good, all things considered, like it's reputation for being crazy hard to learn. 

if the gap between Japanese and U.S. releases of FS are big enough, I may just import...
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 10:15:27 PM
I feel like its technicality is a little overblown. 

I think it's overblown in the sense that it leads people into thinking they need to be a master to even touch the game, when in reality VF is actually extremely easy to pick up and play. It's basically the epitome of "easy to learn, difficult to master".

Final Showdown is obviously going to be the best game ever. Can't wait to try Jean :hyper


yeah, like some of the juggles are tough, but spacing, movement, counter/counter throw timing, and even command grab input timing all seem pretty simple. 
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on December 23, 2011, 10:43:34 PM
ah, e-sports.  well, that, I have nothing to say much about.  i try to avoid competitive gamers because they're usually assholes that ruin the fun in anything, and the fighting gamers are among the worst.

lol.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on December 23, 2011, 10:46:44 PM
It's just such an absurd generalization.  Nothing to say, really.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on December 23, 2011, 10:52:20 PM
I've met and played with local people in the past, some of whom who have spread out and moved to Cali and Japan.  They're good people.  I can't speak for everyone, but there's plenty of decent folks to play games with out there.

Plenty of dickheads online, but nothing that muting/not using a mic or blocking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow hate mail from can't fix.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 10:58:47 PM
VF4 AND 5 SHAOLIN STAGES ARE THE COOLEST EVER
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 23, 2011, 11:05:12 PM
DID SOMEONE SAY VIRTUA FIGHTER  :-*

I will take on all comers with my cabana boy Lion and my nasty-newaza Aikido waifu Aoi
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:07:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cwDn5luFoQ

:bow :bow :bow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITkyPW2XjaE

:bow :bow :bow

Lei Fei has the COOLEST STAGES.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:13:33 PM
PAI-CHAN WILL DECIMATE FOES WITH HER FISTS

Also VANESSA!!!!

LAU GREAT WALL STAGE WITH MY GIRL PAI-CHAN!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ozs1PCIhXM
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 23, 2011, 11:16:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kQs3-cJDg

I MAKE FRIIIIIIIIIIES
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:17:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEzZx4FGa_g

YOU'LL ENJOY THIS, TRUST ME....





























READY?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:20:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCZg_Z2vRcA

YOUR KUNG FU WAS NOT ENOUGH.

YOU TELL EM, HONEY
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 23, 2011, 11:21:11 PM
I used to sit next to the guy who did most of Vanessa's animation (we did some outsource motion work for Sega back in the day). On the day VF4 came out we headed to the game center and my homeboy annihilated all challengers with his Vanasty. I miss working in Japan back when it was awesome  :'(. Where the hell is my VF6, it's so overdue.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
Vanessa is nuts bro
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2011, 11:34:23 PM
Sorry, its all bout dat monkey style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjWuFLmyKiw
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:38:06 PM
NOPE

IT'S ABOUT PAI CHAN AND HER MIZONG QUAN STYLE
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 23, 2011, 11:48:29 PM
HELL NAW

IT'S ALL ABOUT AOI TAKING YOU TO THE MAT AND DISMANTLING YOUR BONE STRUCTURE

 
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on December 23, 2011, 11:49:22 PM
VF is the best fighting game ever but I'm not going to talk about it until I have FS in my hands.  It's too depressing to think about VF as a person without access to a Japanese arcade.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 11:51:40 PM
ah, e-sports.  well, that, I have nothing to say much about.  i try to avoid competitive gamers because they're usually assholes that ruin the fun in anything, and the fighting gamers are among the worst.

well, if I'm getting baited, then mission accomplished :lol 

which fighting gamers are you talking about?  there's very little in the way of ugly drama or mean-heartedness among fighting gamers who play the main games (SF4, MVC3, Tekken.  Not sure about Soul Calibur, Blazblue, or MK9.) Talking about the actual people involved, nothing on internet forums or online play because everyone is a dick online.  There's a hierarchy of respect based on skill that requires low level players to shut up and listen, but it's more of a sensei/student thing than "stfu noob u suk" thing. The people running the tourneys and the high level players are generally all about helping people learn, instead of bashing noobs, because they all want more competition.  The commentators at tourneys always invite more people to come play, but they challenge people to learn the game and point it out when they suck (though that's not the end of the story, they'll be constructive after talking shit.)

I'm surprised you say that, since assholes are called out for being assholes by actual self-identifying competitive fighting game people.  Shoryuken.com has a bunch of dudes who are up their own asses and the anonymous people in stream chats are dicks hiding behind anonymity, but the actual, real community is great and still very grass roots like the early 90s.  If it's trash talk that bothers you, that's a personal problem...it can seem heavy sometimes, I guess.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:52:10 PM
 
HELL NAW

IT'S ALL ABOUT AOI TAKING YOU TO THE MAT AND DISMANTLING YOUR BONE STRUCTURE

 

Pai slaps the ground after she breaks people, though. SHE HITS THE GROUND!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 23, 2011, 11:52:27 PM
I want to know what the fuck they are doing announcing Final Tuned for XBLA, then saying "OH WAIT IT'S NOT COMING OUT UNTIL JUNE 2012." Seriously what the god damn fucking shit, VF6 will be out by then

Oh wait no it won't  :-\

I remember the time I fought Ikebukuro Sarah at a VF4 location test. He ate me and then pooped me out. It felt good
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 11:52:49 PM
HELL NAW

IT'S ALL ABOUT AOI TAKING YOU TO THE MAT AND DISMANTLING YOUR BONE STRUCTURE

 


dem command grabs and counters

also, kimono costumes after DOA declared kimono costumes IMPOSSIBLE to be in a game. 
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 11:53:52 PM
I want to know what the fuck they are doing announcing Final Tuned for XBLA, then saying "OH WAIT IT'S NOT COMING OUT UNTIL JUNE 2012." Seriously what the god damn fucking shit, VF6 will be out by then

Oh wait no it won't  :-\

I remember the time I fought Ikebukuro Sarah at a VF4 location test. He ate me and then pooped me out. It felt good


Gamefaqs now says Q3 2012 for the new one.  Japang in summer, U.S. in the fall/winter?  :'(
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2011, 11:55:05 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
on the plus side, you can't beat quest mode, ever.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
edit: derp wrong thread
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 24, 2011, 12:02:57 AM
While I'm dreaming, I'd also like a port of Spikeout Final Edition to XBLA that I could play while Gina Carano feeds me Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough ice cream
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 24, 2011, 12:08:26 AM
Thankfully VF5 has a pretty decent single player experience so no big really
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 12:11:09 AM
Turn VF5 sp to the hardest mode and go to the hardest arcade in sp mode.

Then weep.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 12:13:51 AM
While I'm dreaming, I'd also like a port of Spikeout Final Edition to XBLA that I could play while Gina Carano feeds me Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough ice cream

i like the way you think 

can Dynamite Deka/die hard be an unlockable bonus?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on December 24, 2011, 02:58:23 AM
Just started up quest mode for VF5 PS3.  Chose Aoi.  Why didn't this game catch on here?  I feel like its technicality is a little overblown. 

So, here's thread to tide us over until VF5 Final Showdown in late 2012  :-\

The technicality of it is mostly hyped up by VF superfans tho.  It's a selling point for a lot of them, or at least it is after they've already bought into it.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 03:05:12 AM
No it's not. A lot of people see VF as "too hardcore" to play. THey think they have to count frames to play VF.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on December 24, 2011, 03:31:34 AM
Yeah, but that's an impression that's been cultivated by fans, partly.

It's just silly to say VF is easy to pick up - not compared to any other fighting game I ever played it's not.  There isn't much you can do at all until you learned a few commands.  Mashing really does not get you anywhere.  It's not like Dead or Alive which has a few friendly canned combos and makes beginners feel like they're in control of things.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on December 24, 2011, 05:20:23 AM
tons of characters are mash friendly. try to be less wrong owly. It's christmas.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
I picked up VF4 as my first fighting game since SF2 series and hopped into it no problem as a complete fighting game distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, aside from SF2 and MK experience.  must have put a million hours into quest mode.

It's not hard to start pressing button combinations and find stuff.  And everyone has p,p,p,k, p+g for throws, p+k for roundhouses and sweeps.  There are only 3 buttons, of course mashing will get you somewhere.   Unless this is some hypothetical situation where you are up against Japan's best player and it's your first time playing. 

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There isn't much you can do at all until you learned a few commands.


the commands are easy for the most part-- b,f+X, f,f +X, b,df+X etc.  you can mash those out easily.  Going through my main's move list last night, there were only a couple that require more than two simple directional presses and those were command grabs.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
I love VF's simplicity. Every other fighter now uses the entire fucking controller. In VF you can but you don't have to.

What are some good fighter pads for 360 btw?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on December 24, 2011, 11:25:48 AM
I love VF's simplicity. Every other fighter now uses the entire fucking controller. In VF you can but you don't have to.

What are some good fighter pads for 360 btw?

Mad Catz.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 24, 2011, 11:30:20 AM
I use the Hori pad that I got in Japan but have since replaced it with the dope ass Tekken 6 stick I got for a song on an amazon lightning deal.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on December 24, 2011, 12:58:45 PM
well, if I'm getting baited, then mission accomplished :lol 

which fighting gamers are you talking about?  there's very little in the way of ugly drama or mean-heartedness among fighting gamers who play the main games (SF4, MVC3, Tekken.  Not sure about Soul Calibur, Blazblue, or MK9.) Talking about the actual people involved, nothing on internet forums or online play because everyone is a dick online.  There's a hierarchy of respect based on skill that requires low level players to shut up and listen, but it's more of a sensei/student thing than "stfu noob u suk" thing. The people running the tourneys and the high level players are generally all about helping people learn, instead of bashing noobs, because they all want more competition.  The commentators at tourneys always invite more people to come play, but they challenge people to learn the game and point it out when they suck (though that's not the end of the story, they'll be constructive after talking shit.)

I'm surprised you say that, since assholes are called out for being assholes by actual self-identifying competitive fighting game people.  Shoryuken.com has a bunch of dudes who are up their own asses and the anonymous people in stream chats are dicks hiding behind anonymity, but the actual, real community is great and still very grass roots like the early 90s.  If it's trash talk that bothers you, that's a personal problem...it can seem heavy sometimes, I guess.

trash talk is the least of my problems.  if they're having fun, it's no skin off my nose.

however, speaking of personal problems, i certainly have a personal problem with "hierarchies of respect".  always have, always will.  another personal problem i have is when people take things that are meant to be fun extremely seriously.  e-sports, like real sports, tends to have an abundance of both of these irritants.

Why do you care?  You're not involved in these "e-sports" and you're not playing with those people anyway.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 24, 2011, 01:36:13 PM
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Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 24, 2011, 01:47:18 PM
Eh e-sports communities are generally pretty friendly outside of FPS/TPS and DOTA.  One of the most popular guys in the Starcraft 2 scene is this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCqwwTfXr1Q) goober. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJztfsXKcPQ)

Anyway, Virtua Fighter is pretty easy to pick up? I never played any of em outside of the arcade and I'm pretty inexperienced with fighting games as a whole. I think the last one whose single player I played from start to finish was Soul Calibur 2 :lol

And Mad Catz makes good pads now?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 24, 2011, 02:04:35 PM
VF is easy! It's only got 3 buttons for crying out loud.

All you need to know is

-- PPPK is your friend
-- Direction + attack button always does something cool
-- Don't play as Akira or Goh
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 02:14:43 PM
Lyte Edge, I'm calling an immediate shut down of this bullshit as a mediator. Leave Oscar alone! I need my buggaboo without having to go on irc or facebook.

VF is easy! It's only got 3 buttons for crying out loud.

All you need to know is

-- PPPK is your friend
-- Direction + attack button always does something cool
-- Don't play as Akira or Goh

:lol
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on December 24, 2011, 02:18:54 PM
I picked up VF4 as my first fighting game since SF2 series and hopped into it no problem as a complete fighting game distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, aside from SF2 and MK experience.  must have put a million hours into quest mode.

It's not hard to start pressing button combinations and find stuff.  And everyone has p,p,p,k, p+g for throws, p+k for roundhouses and sweeps.  There are only 3 buttons, of course mashing will get you somewhere.   Unless this is some hypothetical situation where you are up against Japan's best player and it's your first time playing. 

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There isn't much you can do at all until you learned a few commands.


the commands are easy for the most part-- b,f+X, f,f +X, b,df+X etc.  you can mash those out easily.  Going through my main's move list last night, there were only a couple that require more than two simple directional presses and those were command grabs.
tons of characters are mash friendly. try to be less wrong owly. It's christmas.

It's probably my lack of experience with the newer ones then.  I never played 5 and I only played 4 a bit.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on December 24, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
I was insistent on playing Goh in VF4.

Shit's hard man! :'(
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 09:55:40 PM
well, if I'm getting baited, then mission accomplished :lol 

which fighting gamers are you talking about?  there's very little in the way of ugly drama or mean-heartedness among fighting gamers who play the main games (SF4, MVC3, Tekken.  Not sure about Soul Calibur, Blazblue, or MK9.) Talking about the actual people involved, nothing on internet forums or online play because everyone is a dick online.  There's a hierarchy of respect based on skill that requires low level players to shut up and listen, but it's more of a sensei/student thing than "stfu noob u suk" thing. The people running the tourneys and the high level players are generally all about helping people learn, instead of bashing noobs, because they all want more competition.  The commentators at tourneys always invite more people to come play, but they challenge people to learn the game and point it out when they suck (though that's not the end of the story, they'll be constructive after talking shit.)

I'm surprised you say that, since assholes are called out for being assholes by actual self-identifying competitive fighting game people.  Shoryuken.com has a bunch of dudes who are up their own asses and the anonymous people in stream chats are dicks hiding behind anonymity, but the actual, real community is great and still very grass roots like the early 90s.  If it's trash talk that bothers you, that's a personal problem...it can seem heavy sometimes, I guess.

trash talk is the least of my problems.  if they're having fun, it's no skin off my nose.

however, speaking of personal problems, i certainly have a personal problem with "hierarchies of respect".  always have, always will.  another personal problem i have is when people take things that are meant to be fun extremely seriously.  e-sports, like real sports, tends to have an abundance of both of these irritants.


the term "hierarchies of respect" probably seems bad at face value, but it's just people acknowledging that the games are complex if you really want to learn them, that some people know it better than other people, and that people should respect that.  Just like you wouldn't go into an astro physics class on the first day and start acting like you know everything because you watched Cosmos, you can't just say "SF4 is cheap because X" or "I could kick the shit out of everyone" and not expect to get challenged on that...if you're correct, respect is yours, if not, go back home and practice more.  It's not an irritating thing at all, it's what holds the community together and has since SF2.  Otherwise you get a bunch of nobodies talking shit and causing a bunch of static noise and nobody knows who is who because it's all disorganized.  But you have guys who have been around forever and guys who can win against top players consistently who are actually deserving of recognition among people who play these games.  You can find people who play casually and for fun at the arcades, but of course, the top players get the attention.

as for fun, sure, nobody is going to doubt button mashing or just learning a few moves to play with buddies is fun. No true fighting game player would seriously discourage that or tell you to give up, because that's how everyone starts...though plenty of posers online will try and bash it because their egos need that.  But fun is also sitting in training mode learning all the crazy shit the developers really put into the game for people to find, then going to find other people who practiced like that and seeing if you can beat them.  Then losing to them and talking about how they play, so you can get better.  There isn't much more to it then that.  Some people 200 hours into skyrim, some people put 20000 hours into learning how to play as Ryu in SF4. 

you're painting the fighting game community (esports in regards to fighting games is really an ironic catchphrase that has come up in the past few weeks) with a broad brush where fighting games are their own culture completely.  even as someone who abhors and criticizes everything game-community related, I have to say you are way off here and talking before understanding, honestly (which is why I can't help but white knight.)  Maybe COD's esports community is a bunch of dick waving undersexed meat heads and I know SC2's player community is secretive and xenophobic because the game relies on secrecy, but that's not the fighting game community at all, once you get past the surface shit talk and tourney bravado, which is just to make it more fun. 

alright, i feel like ultradavid, 'nother whiskey sour for me!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 10:12:47 PM
fair enough. 

my only experience with akira is seeing him VF1 or 2, being like "oh he looks kinda like Ryu, guess he's the easy guy to play as--OH SHIT PPP does nothing!"

and from then on...Kage in VF4, then Aoi in VF4 Evo, and now Aoi in VF5.  i'm an Aoiaboo
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 10:18:09 PM
I'm a Pai and Vanessaboo.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 10:28:26 PM
if only my Vanessaboo were real

Sho'nuff, tell them to make Vanessa DARKER in VF6 :drool She got lighter in VF5. :(
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 10:44:49 PM
She looks a little ganguro in 5.  way too coffee-with-cream tinted.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 10:47:45 PM
I just put moles on Aoi and it's actually like 3 big face moles.  Wtf sega?  I just wanted a cindy crawford mole  :'(

Now I'm gonna try the balloon trick to get some items.  Also, I'm like 50-3 in quest mode...pretty sure I never had that kind of a ratio before.  I think playing the shit out lots of fighters between now and VF5s PS3 launch helped me understand how the game works better.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 10:49:12 PM
you on 360? i can get vf5 360 soon. thankfully it's a 3d fighter because I feel comfortable playing vf even with the regular pad.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2011, 10:59:15 PM
nah, PS3.   :gloomy Ver.B(udget RSX chip) :gloomy

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 24, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
if only my Vanessaboo were real

Sho'nuff, tell them to make Vanessa DARKER in VF6 :drool She got lighter in VF5. :(

Yeah uh I'm not precisely sure why she went under the Michael Jackson skin pigmentizer for 5, I assume it's because Japanese people are afraid of black people  :-\

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on December 26, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
I love vf in theory, but the level of play locally is too high for my old and feeble bones.

Here is a video of me beating Reno/itsumobasho from Shouryuuken. This is the fighting game community equivalent of him giving me a "mercy fuck."  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7wiWKPQr4o
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2011, 06:58:12 PM
roboj i got vf5 for 360 again. let's trade blows.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on December 30, 2011, 07:01:36 PM
I think I stupidly traded my copy in a while back.  I didn't think so, but it isn't on my shelf.  :(  I'll look around for it this weekend.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2011, 12:30:55 AM
i use lei fei exclusively. sarah was my main back in the vf2 days, but now i am strictly BALDHEAD.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2011, 12:32:29 AM
The return of VANESSABOO :bow
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2011, 02:15:54 AM
Wow.

I haven't played VF in years but...

My record is 50-4 and I'm already 2nd Dan.

Vanessaboo  :-*
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 01, 2012, 04:13:09 AM
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edit:

this is for me for future watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmsk7jCqWy0
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on January 06, 2012, 08:57:54 PM
don't you dare make fun of vf aesthetic. look at that wall of china stage. looks amazing and makes me wanna visit.

There's nothing to make fun of.  The game's aesthetic is bland as hell.
TAKE. IT. BACK.

:maf
Bland aesthetic. Let's discuss here.

How can you NOT think this is bland?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on January 06, 2012, 09:03:12 PM
Ah, the amazing waffling of Himu has destroyed the repositioned thread before it even takes off:
I like VF aesthetic and think it looks VERY cool because (for the most part) it's NORMAL. ??? What is WRONG WITH ME.

On the other hand, what is "normal"?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
How is VF bland?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on January 06, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2oHKX.jpg)

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on January 06, 2012, 09:07:13 PM
How is VF not bland?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on January 06, 2012, 09:08:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2oHKX.jpg)

Yup, that's the kind of boss-type character I'd prefer to play against.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on January 06, 2012, 09:09:37 PM
i'm shaking my fist in your general direction. all white knuckled n shit.

 
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Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 09:12:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2oHKX.jpg)

That looks fucking stupid.

VF is about different martial arts going up against other martial arts. It's not bland because each character has their martial down to a tee, whether it's animation-wise, clothing aesthetic, or whatever.

Having a demon in a fighting game where characters have distinctive martial arts styles is stupid.

Hell, Dural is stupid. make the final boss a human, I say.

VF isn't bland due to the entire package. The flow, the animations, the clothing styles, the fact the characters speak in their own respective languages. That stuff adds up to make a very unique package that separates itself from the rest of the fighting game genre. If anything, VF would be bland if it were another fighting game that features demons and animu robots. Not like we haven't seen THAT before.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 09:31:49 PM
How is VF not bland?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkxeYfcyB8

Look at that stage. Look at the way the snow blows. Look at the intro animations. Look at the attention of detail laid in the background. Look at the way the clothes transform to the incoming wind. Look at the move animations and how crisply animated they are. If you have a modicum of interest in martial arts, too, you should also be able to appreciate the level of detail given to each individual fighter's fighting style.

Look at this Guilin stage. Holy shit, I want to visit Guilin. The way the stage transforms as you go round by round, as you pass under the bridge. It's a level of detail that other fighters are lacking in. But then, if you're interested in the actual content (location or martial arts) of course you're going to find VF's aesthetic more appealing than another animu fighter where the main cast shoot fireballs out of their ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luc_-zVyM-4

Not to mention dem juggles. So fluid.

Then watch a Soul Calibur V video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaHx2mGK784

Oh wow. A dude with a big sword. That's the first thing you see. Haven't seen THAT before! Then look at the animations. Christ. This looks so boring. Oh great, another fighter with anime-esque fighting game special move animations that last longer than 2 seconds. I will definitely pick this game up (not really).

Now let's look at Tekken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcU3aI6SuqI

Jesus Christ. First off, the character design is atrocious. Secondly, look at that stage. It looks static and boring. What are those red things when a hit makes contact? That looks gay. They're way up in the sky, but the wind doesn't even affect their clothing.

Boredom incarnate. I'll give DoA kudos, though, it's a very aesthetically pleasing series.

VF, however, is nothing but polish and a labor of love.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 09:56:46 PM
I dunno. What can I say? I really enjoy VF's visual design. I think it's the best out of the 3d fighters, and consistently interesting in terms of visual flair. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's bland because it imitates reality, because when across the entire fighting game contingent, it's the only fighting game to do so. This makes it not bland by default, because it's refreshing. If imitating reality equates to blandness, that's pretty shallow. What's wrong with reality?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 10:06:57 PM
It really depends.

Hitler's art was technically sound, but in terms of visual flair, very bland. VF isn't; despite the realism, it has dudes with really spiky hair, guys who get drunk, and monkey girls. I hate to bring up the A-WORD in a  VIDYA GAME forum, but according to one of my professors in art school, art is much less about technicality and more about intent: "What does it say? What is the end result?" Yes, VF is fairly technically sound in graphical prowess, but what makes it visually interesting is how all of this realism translates to something that feels, admittedly, very video game-y.

So while it may bore you, VF excites me because I really wanna fucking go to places like Guilin and the Great Wall of China, and VF's depictions are fucking cool as shit.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 10:09:22 PM
Akira is scary. Sometimes I can side step a lot of his moves depending on the player, some times the player will trick me into side stepping and then put their dick in my ass, cold turkey, without a hint of ky.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 10:14:47 PM
I'm not big on Akira. I always perferred Jacky, Pai, Sarah, Kage, and more recently Vanessa.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2012, 10:19:22 PM

And VF is fucking bland looking.  Himu's post is the height of stupidity.

Nope. VF's characters tend to exhibit their personalities and quirks through the action eg. the way they fight, more so than other fighters, which emphasize the design of the characters. It's a notable difference. This however, does not make VF bland looking. Bland looking in what sense? What looks bland? The fighting? Or the character design? When people say VF looks bland, they never sufficiently say what looks bland about it.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2012, 12:08:08 AM
Haha
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on January 07, 2012, 02:57:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luc_-zVyM-4

Not to mention dem juggles. So fluid.

The intro has passable lighting, but as soon as the fight starts, it turns into an unsaturated grey-fest, with all the UI points popping out in near hysterical primary and secondary colors. Not a hint of subtlety for the UI, and yet the figures onscreen, the players' avatars, the things we're supposed to be watching during the fight, are all struggling to be seen against the HUD elements. Even without the oversaturated and Las-Vegas-levels-of-subtlety shown in the UI, the game itself is (as you said) striving to be representational, and so there are not a lot of vibrant, saturated colors to be found... that's not bad, but it is...
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Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on January 07, 2012, 02:57:35 AM
Tekken has shit visual design.  Not bland, but shit.

VF is bland because it's pretty much imitating reality.  It's like how Gran Turismo is visually bland, or hell, Call of Duty, or even a certain forum sacred cow that will go unnamed. 

Not sure why you're pushing back against it, himu.  It is what it is.  It's not the flashy hot girl, it's the plain-looking girl next door who sucks cock like a champ.
:rofl
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2012, 02:59:14 AM
Uhhh, Chrono. That UI is there for purposes for learning the game better. That's...that's not enabled by default. You know that, right?

Also, that gray fest is due to weather. Certain stages have different patterns (night, day, cloudy, sunny). In that version of the stage, the weather is cloudy.

I don't think color saturation and colors is really VF's problem.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2012, 03:28:04 AM
I want to try out Jean so bad. What fighting style is he? What type of karate is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YEpH50HPNk
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2012, 03:50:42 AM
His one twos are cute. More cute than Akira's paltry one twos.

Jean puts his back into it.

Surprised no one has posted the best VF5 match online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETcMvxsfXAs
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on January 08, 2012, 09:55:25 AM
Tekken has shit visual design.  Not bland, but shit.

VF is bland because it's pretty much imitating reality.  It's like how Gran Turismo is visually bland, or hell, Call of Duty, or even a certain forum sacred cow that will go unnamed. 

Not sure why you're pushing back against it, himu.  It is what it is.  It's not the flashy hot girl, it's the plain-looking girl next door who sucks cock like a champ.
:rofl

/himu

Nice selection of videos you used, too.  I like that it's the arcade Final Showdown but not the arcade Tekken 6, and for that matter not that the latest game (TTT2) and you show a lame match with someone's dumb Heihachi custom.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on February 24, 2012, 10:00:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR5kToQR4GY

- Detailed training mode
- Online lobbies
- 10,000+ character customization items available as DLC

GotY
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on February 24, 2012, 10:05:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR5kToQR4GY

- Detailed training mode
- Online lobbies
- 10,000+ character customization items available as DLC

GotY

:bow
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 24, 2012, 11:13:15 AM
AWESOME


wait...what? 10,000 items as DLC?  how does that work...1000 items in a pack?!  I hope you can earn them in game. otherwise, that's some bullshit.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on February 24, 2012, 11:34:55 AM
I think cosmetic DLC is fair for this game. If it's going to be on XBLA, that means it's going to be $20 max. So if they want to get some extra money from a bunch of customization items, I'm okay with that (as long as it's not overpriced).
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 24, 2012, 11:40:11 AM
yeah, but the number "10,000" is potentially a lot of dlc.  Maybe it'll be 10 packs of 1000 each for $5 each? So...$50 worth of DLC, which would make it like a regular game plus some dlc at that price.  It needs quest mode to make it feel like a full VF game though and they haven't confirmed that yet.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on February 24, 2012, 11:55:06 AM
Rock Band also has "potentially a lot of dlc"... Just buy what you want, even if that means buying nothing.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on February 24, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
Sega was running a VF5FS contest a little while back where you submit your name and a battle quote, so I think that hints toward a quest mode.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on February 24, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
Awesome VF is awesome

However 10,000 item DLC... :'(  If they charge $1 an item that's $10,000 for all the DLC.  I love VF but I can't afford that :(


This could be the id@lmaster of the west.  I really want to see their plan.

Also part of the fun in VF4+ was winning items through matches.  I hope you can still win items that way and it's not just DLC packs.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on February 24, 2012, 02:53:12 PM
This ain't gonna be near popular enough for them to charge for all that DLC alone...not to mention looking it up on PSN/XBLA would be a nightmare.   :lol 

I bet they'll sell everything in individual character packs.

And I hope I can buy everything, customize a character, then get online and not have to worry about unlocking nonsense.

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on February 24, 2012, 08:43:59 PM
There will be a single "online compatibility pack" which allows any user to see the full outfits when playing with DLC-using players. There will be two or three DLC packs per character, running 400MSP/$5 each, with no associated Achievements or Trophies.

The developers will neglect this opportunity to include Avatar clothing items in the DLC, as well as GamerTag user icons, both of which would increase the overall sales and awareness of the availability of these DLC packs, as well as distance them from the perceived singleminded greed which this plan otherwise implies.


CHRONOSTRADAMUS HATH SPOKEN.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on March 01, 2012, 03:41:56 AM
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Customizable costumes: Because VF5FS is close to the maximum size allowed for DLC games, all items other than the defaults are not included in the game and are sold as DLC. Items will be sold separately and in packs.

So no item matches, item unlocks, or items that you don't buy with real $$$ :(


Awesome game is still awesome, but that is a huge bummer considering how in-depth the item customization in VF5 FS is and how fun item matches were in VF4/Evo/VF5.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on March 01, 2012, 07:42:01 AM
Yeah, I liked collecting items and customizing my guys. I'll probably wind up buying the DLC packs if they're reasonably priced.

I guess that also means that you won't be able to see any of the customized characters online, unless you buy the DLC packs as well. Hopefully they release a free compatibility pack to fix that (like SF4 or w/e).
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on May 14, 2012, 09:35:51 AM
SAN FRANCISCO & LONDON - May 14, 2012 - SEGA® of America Inc. and SEGA® Europe Ltd. today announced that the console release date and retail price for Virtua Fighter™ 5 Final Showdown. The stand-alone downloadable 3D fighting game is set to make its console debut on June 5 for PlayStation®Network and June 6 for Xbox LIVE® Arcade for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft. Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown will be priced at $14.99/ £9.99/ AUD$18.25/ €12.99 for PSN and 1,200 Microsoft Points for XBLA.

Character customization DLC packs will be available immediately upon launch for all 19 fighters, with each character customization pack costing $4.99/ £3.59/ AUD$6.25/ €4.49 for PSN and 400 Microsoft Points for XBLA, and will contain 600-950 customization items. Two additional customization packs, consisting of nine characters’ worth of DLC items and the other with 10 characters’ worth, will also be available at launch for $14.99/ £9.99/ AUD$18.25/ €12.99 each on PSN and 1,200 Microsoft Points each on XBLA.

Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown brings the latest arcade version of the Virtua Fighter 5 series to consoles worldwide, adding two new characters—Virtua Fighter 3 favorite Taka-Arashi and newcomer Jean Kujo—and dynamic and interactive fighting arenas. Console-only features include a robust and detailed Training Mode, eight player Online Room Match Mode, and a match record feature to replay, save, and upload fights. Developed by AM2, the console version of Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown will bring the storied franchise’s detailed balance, overhauled fighting mechanics, and extreme depth to new audiences and VF veterans alike in the acclaimed series’ best version yet.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Akala on May 14, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
:hyper
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on May 14, 2012, 11:16:10 AM
$15 is a great price

will it have quest or kumite modes? or were those never in the arcade versions
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 14, 2012, 12:48:02 PM
What the fuck @ content packs, that's some Scamco shit right there
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 14, 2012, 12:49:20 PM
Content packs are just outfits and shit, right?

$15 for the game is awesome. :rock
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on May 14, 2012, 12:53:42 PM
$15 is a great price

will it have quest or kumite modes? or were those never in the arcade versions

It's there, but the content packs cuts into a lot of what made the feature so addictive:

http://www.presspauseradio.com/presspauseradio/2012/4/15/pax-east-2012-virtua-fighter-5-final-showdown-hands-on-previ.html

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For those who don’t know, the Kumite mode is an addictive single player mode added back on the console iteration of VF4. Kumite allowed you to customize your favorite fighter aesthetically, and build up experience points to defeat countless A.I. opponents for more points to level up your rank and even more cool swag to customize your Kumite character. This mode makes a return, but when explored, simply came across as an afterthought in comparison to all the other efforts of finetuning the VF5 formula. Overall, there were no improvements or additions to Kumite design. Worst yet, all swag that you would have normally collected is now being planned for bundled DLC content requiring purchase, and will not be available in-game at all, which greatly gimps any interest for visiting the mode...
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 14, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
What the fuck, I played the shit out of Kumite so I could get Jacky stupid hats and kill fools online looking like an idiot. Now I have to pay an extra $15? Fuck you, Sega.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2012, 01:35:17 PM
Might buy the $45 arcade-complete dress up edition, but yeah, removing the item collecting from SP mode kind of hurts.  Wish they had an option where you pay $45 but don't get to use the items you just bought until you unlock them in SP.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on May 14, 2012, 01:53:02 PM
disappointing, but $15 for barebones fighting is still worth it.

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on May 14, 2012, 02:01:21 PM
The vast majority of people have no business polluting my eyes with their poor sense of esthetics. I support sega's pay to gay scheme.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 14, 2012, 02:31:37 PM
I wonder if I'll be able to see other people's dressup without dropping the Rape Dollars
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on May 14, 2012, 03:14:41 PM
$15 is a great price

will it have quest or kumite modes? or were those never in the arcade versions

It's there, but the content packs cuts into a lot of what made the feature so addictive:

http://www.presspauseradio.com/presspauseradio/2012/4/15/pax-east-2012-virtua-fighter-5-final-showdown-hands-on-previ.html

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For those who don’t know, the Kumite mode is an addictive single player mode added back on the console iteration of VF4. Kumite allowed you to customize your favorite fighter aesthetically, and build up experience points to defeat countless A.I. opponents for more points to level up your rank and even more cool swag to customize your Kumite character. This mode makes a return, but when explored, simply came across as an afterthought in comparison to all the other efforts of finetuning the VF5 formula. Overall, there were no improvements or additions to Kumite design. Worst yet, all swag that you would have normally collected is now being planned for bundled DLC content requiring purchase, and will not be available in-game at all, which greatly gimps any interest for visiting the mode...

what the fuck
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on May 14, 2012, 03:34:38 PM
Basically, if you're primarily a single-player VF player, you might just want to consider another whirl with the kumite in VF5:Online.

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 14, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
I don't think it's that bland, I think VF is rocking this 80s/90s fusion aesthetic (both visual & music wise) which is kind of cheesy but which I dig anyway

also amazing that Himu brought Hitler into a thread about fighting game aesthetics, though nobody took the bait
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on May 14, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
Basically, if you're primarily a single-player VF player, you should play an actual single player game or get online as intended.   :P

Sega should at least take a page out of Namco's book and offer compatibility packs so players can choose whether they want to see the lame customizations that other players will use.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2012, 04:12:23 PM
Basically, if you're primarily a single-player VF player, you should play an actual single player game or get online as intended.   :P

Because making fighting games less accessible and appealing to the larger market worked so well to keep the genre alive in the past.


You do realize there's a large % of gamers who like fighting games but don't bother with online gaming.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on May 14, 2012, 05:58:21 PM
Basically, if you're primarily a single-player VF player, you should play an actual single player game or get online as intended.   :P

Because making fighting games less accessible and appealing to the larger market worked so well to keep the genre alive in the past.

What is less accessible about not receiving a t-shirt or whatever for winning a match against the CPU?   ???

The most-appealing thing about this game to people is gonna be that it's fifteen bucks. 

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You do realize there's a large % of gamers who like fighting games but don't bother with online gaming.

Yes...they play locally with other people instead.  :p   These games are designed for multiplayer and it's only really been with this gen that we've finally gotten fighting games that play well online.

I will never understand people who buy fighting games and don't play them multiplayer.  Hate distinguished mentally-challenged shit-talking idiots online?  Understandable, sure, but you just mute that crap, beat them, and it doesn't matter.

Offline play should be used to try and learn some stuff...then you go online or play against someone locally and try it. 
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on May 14, 2012, 07:33:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOxgsGAB57w

I liked VF5's quest mode because it lets you learn each character's movesets by putting you against a wide range of AI that is actually fun to fight against (which is extremely rare for a fighting game). Then you go online and get demolished by one of the three people still playing.  :D
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on May 14, 2012, 07:59:23 PM
Yeah, seriously. VF5 online for 360 has about 5 people still playing and kumite could have added more value to the game in the long run.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 14, 2012, 08:02:13 PM
Hmm that video is giving me a
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Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on May 15, 2012, 10:06:56 AM
Content packs are just outfits and shit, right?

$15 for the game is awesome. :rock

This is the correct answer. You may advance to the next stage!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on May 28, 2012, 05:05:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15sF2VKREAI

Great first to 5 series between Fuudo and Chibita. Only a little over a week until the world's best dress-up simulator is released!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 05, 2012, 12:07:15 AM
MONKEY STYLE, BITCHES! THIS WEEKKKKKK
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 12:12:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kQs3-cJDg

I MAKE FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIES
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 10:32:16 AM
Out today on PSN!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 11:39:29 AM
MUST WAIT 24 HOURS

What time does the Xbox version drop?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 12:13:19 PM
I wanna say 5-6AM EST Wednesday morning?

$15 VF5 = insta-double-dip for me.  I might buy a costume pack or two.  Only gonna use one or two characters anyway.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: thisismyusername on June 05, 2012, 12:34:40 PM
Out today on PSN!

It should be out right now. Goddamn it, SCEA.  :(

SCEE and XBL tomorrow. Get hype?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 01:08:12 PM
I thought the PSN store didn't update until around 5:00PM EST...
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 01:19:02 PM
Stupid question: If I buy any single costume pack can I access the Kumite mode?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: thisismyusername on June 05, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
Stupid question: If I buy any single costume pack can I access the Kumite mode?

Probably not. We won't know until it releases but word on the street is that no. You need them all.
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Post by: Himu on June 05, 2012, 02:00:55 PM
you need all costumes to access kumite mode? wtf/
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Post by: thisismyusername on June 05, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
you need all costumes to access kumite mode? wtf/

Kumite is using unique character builds, and since you can't see those online you probably shouldn't be able to see them offline. Makes sense... kinda... but is stupid, yeah.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Kumite mode is the same as Quest Mode from VF5, yes?
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Post by: Robo on June 05, 2012, 03:30:36 PM
Why wouldn't Kumite/Quest just function as normal, except without item rewards?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
Stupid question: If I buy any single costume pack can I access the Kumite mode?

Probably not. We won't know until it releases but word on the street is that no. You need them all.

Always a catch!

Guess it's $30 for the full game.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 04:54:19 PM
At work, one of our guys claimed that Guilty Gear is "more technical" than VF5

His favorite game to play competitively is Smash Bros  :-*
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2012, 04:57:27 PM
Guilty Gear is the most technical and deep 2d fighter.  I'd say it's pretty comparable to VF.  I prefer VF because it's more accessible and relies more on strategy than inputting two dozen commands within 1 second like GG.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on June 05, 2012, 05:09:25 PM
Guilty Gear has an absurd number of sub-systems and advanced techniques, but I'm not sure it translates to a "deeper" fighting game.  The core of it isn't all that much different than MvC3, really: the offense is overwhelming and defense is essentially guesswork.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on June 05, 2012, 05:13:33 PM
out on PS3

$30 for the 'complete' version
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Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 05:16:44 PM
Must wait till 5am tomorrow morning...rrrrrgh

The same thing happened with Daytona launching a day early on PSN, it was TORTURE
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
this is free for PSN members :)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2012, 05:29:50 PM
Really?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
yep downloading it now
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 05:31:59 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7341196428_21d0428ef8_z.jpg)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
Sweet.  $15 saved.  Guess I'll save a few bucks with Space Marine as well.  Wish I never bought Hard Corps.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
also 20% discount on VF5 dlc
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 05:46:46 PM
FUCK why don't I have a stick for the PS3
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2012, 05:47:48 PM
also 20% discount on VF5 dlc

Saves me another ummmm, $8?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on June 05, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
The complete version come with all of the costume DLC, right? Hope the 360 version gets the same deal.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
There's no complete version that I saw.

There's also not one, but two DLC packs- so it's $45 for the full game.

I'm just buying the custom parts for my main, who is currently Sarah, for $5.

Downloading the PS3 version now.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 06:27:45 PM
Ack what? I thought it was base game for $15 and all the DLC shit for $15.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
theres a complete version on PSN for $30.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
theres a complete version on PSN for $30.

 :o :'(

Totally did not see it.  Sucks. 
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
I bought the complete version.  With PSN discounts it's still be $24 ($12 & $12 for the DLC) or I can pay $30 and know I get it forever even after unsubscribing from PS+, so I went for the $30 set.

The worst part is having to download and install all of the character packs separately :(
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 08:02:09 PM
I bought the complete edition.  Hope I get a refund from PSN for buying the game twice...if not it's still the same price as buying both DLC packs anyway.  I got owned!

And yeah, all those packs to download.  Hope I get to play this game TONIGHT.   :lol

Since I'm double-dipping, I hope that the 360 is getting a complete edition too- $60 for a game on two platforms works for me. 
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
bought el fuentes pack. will prob buy the complete edition this wekend
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on June 05, 2012, 08:07:49 PM
theres a complete version on PSN for $30.

 :o :'(

Totally did not see it.  Sucks.

I warned you guys that there is a complete version for '$30'.

 :fbm

I guess it doesn't show on the storefront? I searched "Virtua" and it came up.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Akala on June 05, 2012, 08:23:37 PM
Dling the free one now, will get the packs this weekend.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
Is there gonna be a complete pack on XBL? If not I may go PSN
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 05, 2012, 08:41:15 PM
wtf hope complete comes to xbl
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 05, 2012, 09:16:01 PM
this game rules
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Akala on June 05, 2012, 09:45:04 PM
Either they've fucked up Goh or I've forgotten how to play.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on June 05, 2012, 11:14:38 PM
I've definitely forgotten how to place.

I haven't played VF4/5 in a while.  I started playing online using VF1/2 moves.  That didn't work so well.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 11:17:05 PM
:bow PPPK :bow2
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 05, 2012, 11:19:54 PM
Net code seems to be pretty good!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 05, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
Apparently there is no Complete Pack for XBL -- you have to buy all the DLC for $45 total.

Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 06, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
I love VF's simplicity. Every other fighter now uses the entire fucking controller. In VF you can but you don't have to.

What are some good fighter pads for 360 btw?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91HkX7foLkL.jpg)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 06, 2012, 01:04:44 PM
Rocking the ever loving fuck out of this game AHHHHHHHH. I love how you can choose to use VF1/VF2/VF3/VF4 music instead. Fuckin crazy. Playing on my Tekken 6 Hori stick that I got for $20 in some Amazon fire sale.

BTW I played both PS3 and Xbox versions extensively and I kinda think Xbox has a superior MSAA solution.

Still haven't bit on the customization packs but I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2012, 01:07:05 PM
BTW I played both PS3 and Xbox versions extensively and I kinda think Xbox has a superior MSAA solution.

Sounds like they are building this off the VF5 console versions.  Both were identical there except Xbox had superior AA.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: thisismyusername on June 06, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
If X-box has better AA, great... but the PS3 version still looks good for a downloadable title on 2005-based hardware ported to a 2007 based hardware.

I also gotta sit down and put some time into the dojo/training mode. I'm just mashing PPPP/PPPK/PK/PPK and attempting to go for throws and failing online. :lol
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 06, 2012, 01:54:23 PM
MONKEY FUCKIN STYLE BITHCESSSSSSSS
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 06, 2012, 01:55:56 PM
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/New_characters_from_Virtua_Fighter_5.jpg)

EEK EEK BITHCES!!!!!!
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2012, 02:03:58 PM
MONKEY FUCKIN STYLE BITHCESSSSSSSS

Yep.

Eileen is bossssssss.


My mains are:  Akira, Kage, Eileen, Aoi,
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on June 06, 2012, 02:11:13 PM
If X-box has better AA, great... but the PS3 version still looks good for a downloadable title on 2005-based hardware ported to a 2007 based hardware.\

yeah, it looks nice on PS3.  Never played the 360 version of VF5 to compare.  After vanilla VF4 on PS2 I'm just happy the game isn't some jaggy nightmare.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 06, 2012, 02:16:18 PM
Apparently there is no Complete Pack for XBL -- you have to buy all the DLC for $45 total.

Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

wtf
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 06, 2012, 02:32:15 PM
Yeahhhh Aoi bustin out the aiki counters, plantin fools on their faces, gettin em all mad
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 06, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
how is vanessa
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 06, 2012, 02:42:12 PM
Hit with the skin pigmentizer

I <3 Vanessa. The guy who sat next to me did all of her anims for VF4. The night the game came out in the game center he rolled on in and just trashed all challengers. He taught me the darkest secrets of the mysterious Brazilian princess
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Post by: Himu on June 06, 2012, 02:43:46 PM
Can't wait to waste fools with my vanessaboo.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2012, 02:46:50 PM
Himuro, you on X360?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 06, 2012, 02:58:23 PM
Yes, but i'm considering ps3, i dunno.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 06, 2012, 03:47:29 PM
I am on 360 just because I have a stick for that system.

Gamer tag is McWild. YES, AS IN JEFFRY MOTHERFUCKIN MCWILD. VIRTUA VIRTUA VIRTUA
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 06, 2012, 03:54:26 PM
Hit with the skin pigmentizer

One of the customization options is to make her skin darker.   :lol  There's two shades available, in fact.  You can do this with other characters too.  I have an 80's style teen Whitney Houston black-Sarah.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 06, 2012, 05:23:42 PM
add me on psn - BostonCollegeFan i'm ok not amazing. I play El Fuente or w/e his name is. I like his combo :)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 06, 2012, 05:36:15 PM
Hmm, the sound effects sound compressed to hell.  I'm playing with head phones and the announcer and win quotes are painful to hear.  I'm guessing the arcade version was larger than 2 gigs...
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Akala on June 06, 2012, 11:26:49 PM
Spent a little time in the dojo...they adjusted almost all of the reflex bnb combos I used for Goh. Got rid of a few, made some harder, changed inputs/timing, etc. I am at maybe like 40% of 4evo strength and I MURDERED the first two people I played. Gotta practice some more, this is gonna be awesome. :hyper
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 06, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Hmm, the sound effects sound compressed to hell.  I'm playing with head phones and the announcer and win quotes are painful to hear.  I'm guessing the arcade version was larger than 2 gigs...

That's a stylistic choice. The arcade version is the same.

Also, you know the hits and whoosh sound effects? Those are literally the SAME ONES FROM VF1. It's like they never bothered making nicer versions of them :lol
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2012, 02:16:41 PM
The XBLA leaderboards for this game show about 7,000 people total  :-\

I wonder if the PS3 version had better sales. Playing online is pretty much a wasteland.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I haven't had a chance to play much yet.  Hopefully soon!  I need to find and hook up my sticks.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: cool breeze on June 11, 2012, 02:27:27 PM
I'm so bad at this.  I get completely destroyed in ranked matches, but player matches are at a similarly inexperienced level.  Instead of just going into training mode I'm messing around online until I remember how to shuffle with Jacky or whatever.

Last night I started using my neo geo cd controller.  Too lazy to take my VSHG out.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 11, 2012, 04:24:17 PM
The XBLA leaderboards for this game show about 7,000 people total  :-\

I wonder if the PS3 version had better sales. Playing online is pretty much a wasteland.

I find it about the same on both platforms.  People seem to be sticking to ranked, too- almost nobody plays player matches.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2012, 04:39:15 PM
i really don't get it, because I remember back in the day, VF4 was pretty damn popular. What happened to the user base?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2012, 04:41:57 PM
I remember having a ball with VF5 Vanilla on the 360, had a good time online trashin suckas left and right

Too bad Daytona is also dead  :-\
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
VF5 360 had quite a bit of people playing at the time.
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Post by: brob on June 11, 2012, 04:51:58 PM
Gotten to the point where I can stomp the fuck out of p spamming bitches with subakis.


:bow anime judo assassin :bow2
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on June 11, 2012, 05:09:39 PM
I'm so bad at this.  I get completely destroyed in ranked matches, but player matches are at a similarly inexperienced level.  Instead of just going into training mode I'm messing around online until I remember how to shuffle with Jacky or whatever.

When victory is in doubt, press P+K, K and hold back to shuffle step.  Repeat until YOU WIN.

Just kidding, but not really.  :bow Jacky flowchart :bow2

(If you can hit verify the counter hit on P+K, press P instead of K for the juggle and follow with forward+P, P, down+K, or some other string, but I believe that one hits most consistently.  I think you can flip kick pretty consistently, too (upback K+G).)

Forward+P is a good one to abuse, too.  Just throw it out there without the follow up strings; if it connects, quickly tap K, if it doesn't, press forward+P again, throw or sidestep.

Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on June 11, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
Jacky   :poop

at least go with the brad show if you wanna play durr-style
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on June 11, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
You shut up, Jacky is awesome.  It's not completely durr-style; it's a simple, early fundamental that also happens to be pretty damn good.  It's a building block.


For further reference, I would imagine most of this still works, but it's based on the 360 OE version of VF5, so it's possible there are a lot of changes.  Damage is probably all wrong.  Not a bad place to start, though.

http://virtuafighter.com/combos/index.php

(Change your character at the top.  Mouse over the box for special notation.)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: brob on June 11, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
fuck building blocks. sink or swim motherfucker :maf
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2012, 05:34:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kQs3-cJDg

IT'S GO TIME BABY
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 11, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
i really don't get it, because I remember back in the day, VF4 was pretty damn popular. What happened to the user base?

They moved on after it took Sega like five years to bring an updated VF5 to home consoles. 

VF5 also fell off on the arcade charts some years back- people moved on to Tekken.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Akala on June 11, 2012, 11:20:45 PM
If this is the last vf, at least it ended well.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on June 12, 2012, 12:41:04 AM
It was so obvious that this game was going to sell like crap. Sega should have put it out on disc for $40 and at least made some extra money. Not like they'd lose many sales.


Anyway, I've mostly been using training mode to learn how to use Goh. I haven't played online a lot yet but I think I finally know what to do with him. He'd be so godlike if his moves weren't so slow on start up :(
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Momo on June 12, 2012, 03:04:22 AM
I got it free on PSN+ will play later
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2012, 03:45:14 AM
Seriously, VF should have hit consoles again after fucking Super Street Fighter IV. This game should have came out a YEAR ago. It was ANNOUNCED a year ago. What the fuck took so long?
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on June 12, 2012, 04:55:21 AM
Played up to 2nd Dan tonight. Even at 3-5am EST, there's still a decent amount of people online with good connections, so that's nice at least. So far I'm 29-13. Goh is badass. 8)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 12, 2012, 08:14:01 AM
Seriously, VF should have hit consoles again after fucking Super Street Fighter IV. This game should have came out a YEAR ago. It was ANNOUNCED a year ago. What the fuck took so long?

SEGA™
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Akala on June 12, 2012, 09:42:16 AM
I really love playing as Goh, can be so satisfying. Tend to have to work a lot harder for wins, but against scrubs you can just beast.

*edit* FGOTY
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: iconoclast on June 13, 2012, 05:03:18 AM
I haven't been this hooked on a fighting game since SF4. Hands down the GotY, unless I get to play Saidaioujou somehow. :D

I think Goh is pretty easy to use to be honest - that's why I started playing him. He's straight forward and doesn't have tons of combos to learn, so it's just straight up YOMI. So far I'm 146-54 with him. 8)
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Momo on June 13, 2012, 05:32:59 AM
I've been playing with Eilleen and Pai Pai master. Unlocked nearly all the trophies in 20 mins :lol
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2012, 05:03:34 AM
So I finally got a chance to play this with my old VF4/Evo/VF5 buddy.  We're on pretty equal level and both mid-level, and sometimes high-level players so our sessions are always fun.  Played 5 hours straight, though an hour or so was spent in character creation breaks.  Dressing up your characters since VF4 has been the best thing.  Something about it is just so much more satisfying then character making in other 3d fighters.  Plus the core game is still the absolute best fighter out there.  We can play for 5 hours and constantly be coming up with new strategies to counter each other's new strategies.  My friend's primarily played Lei Fei since VF4 with a little Pai as well.  I mainly stick to Akira and Kage.  I tried playing Eileen and hadn't played her since VF5 so like 3-4 years and I didn't remember any of her moves, lol.  Been a long time.

My Akira and Kage got a lot of changes since VF5.  Akira feels like he got some stuff nerfed, along with everyone getting a bit nerfed due to the dodge attacks being toned down.  But some of his new stuff like his DB+P are really really useful and make up for the nerfs.  He also just got a ton of pure animation changes, so the moves are the same but they look differently and I think that effects their usage as well.  Kage seems nerfed from VF5 as a lot of my old BnB combos that juggled into knee attack don't work and the knee whiffs now.  Even his DF+P juggles seem to whiff unless on counter now.  I need to go through command training and see what new stuff he got to make up for the nerfs. 

Pretty excited to start going through all the character's and seeing all these changes.  Feels really fresh and almost like a VF5.5 new game.  Fantastic stuff.  If I can actually get my friend over on a regular basis like we used to in the old VF days, I'll probably rack up another 400-500 hours on this and call it my GoTY again.


Here's some of the cast we made tonight and why the character creation rocks:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/1340267113.jpg)
GOH


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/1340256934.jpg)
ASIAN LEO MONK


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/1340256898.jpg)
KAGE


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/1340267155.jpg)
EILEEN PAGE THE TIME TRAVELER

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/1340267180.jpg)
EL BLAZE


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/1340267088.jpg)
ZOLDARK WITH THE INVERSE INFINITY GAUNTLET
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Robo on June 21, 2012, 09:36:35 AM
. . .OK, I'm sold.  I'll buy the item packs when I get some more points.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: bork on June 22, 2012, 12:41:24 PM
You can make Wolf into multiple versions of Hulk Hogan and Kurt Angle.   :lol

Dressing up your characters since VF4 has been the best thing.  Something about it is just so much more satisfying then character making in other 3d fighters. 

Soul Calibur 4/5 bitch-slaps all the other character customization features in other fighting games.  VF5's is decent (and better than Tekken 6's), but doesn't even come close.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 02, 2012, 11:57:39 AM
I just bought the second costume pack and went through all the characters making sexy bikini pantsu version of all of them, ESPECIALLY the guys, just so I can hear people go "ew" when I whoop their asses online.

:bow Virtua Fighter :bow2
:bow King of Fighting Game :bow2
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: chronovore on July 03, 2012, 01:44:04 AM
I just bought the second costume pack and went through all the characters making sexy bikini pantsu version of all of them, ESPECIALLY the guys, just so I can hear people go "ew" when I whoop their asses online.

:bow Virtua Fighter :bow2
:bow King of Fighting Game :bow2

:lol
Sho Nuff invents the Virtua Fighter / Chou Aniki crossover.
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2012, 02:36:32 AM
now i can finally see jeffrey dig someone's head into his crotch just the way things should have been
Title: Re: The hardcorest fighting game: Virtua Fighter thread :monocle
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 03, 2012, 02:49:09 AM
Newsflash: Jeffry McWild spotted in real life

(http://tapordiecompany.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jeffry-and-me.jpg)