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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 03:31:42 AM

Title: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 03:31:42 AM: I used to be a pretty big fan and defender of Square and the Final Fantasy franchise. Somehow I was able to find something to like in all the main FF's even if they were often schizophrenic.

But man, after FFXIII, FFXIV, and now after finishing Type 0 aka. Agito.... when the fuck am I going to get a good game with the FF name on it and not an epic disaster mess that seems like a dozen people with completely different ideas were all trying to make a single game?? These last major FFs have been total junk and this is what we got out of 5 years of Square's "TOP PEOPLE" making games with the highest budgets in Japanese developers. This is not good. I don't care if the story isn't that great, most rpg stories aren't, but the narratives in these games (well I haven't played XIV) don't even make sense and the gameplay is not even satisfying. These are like the two BASIC PREMISES of an rpg: Have a narrative that you can follow and enjoy and have gameplay that is fun!

So yeah, FFXIII-2 is last straw. If the game is a mess/disaster/PoS/waste of time, I'm out. Wada hump pillow gets thrown in the trash at that point. XIII-2 better be good.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Damian79 on January 28, 2012, 03:35:13 AM: I may aswell ask in this thread. Anyone else not like how the characters move in this game? It is such a huge turn off for me, and i can stomach a lot of crap.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Vizzys on January 28, 2012, 03:35:40 AM: /wait for ~~versus~~ ffx remake

Quote from: Damian79 on January 28, 2012, 03:35:13 AM
I may aswell ask in this thread. Anyone else not like how the characters move in this game? It is such a huge turn off for me, and i can stomach a lot of crap.

the biggest anime
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Damian79 on January 28, 2012, 03:37:34 AM: Quote from: Viz on January 28, 2012, 03:35:40 AM
/wait for ~~versus~~ ffx remake

I hate Square's remakes. They effectively killed their secret of mana games with all that bullshit.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Vizzys on January 28, 2012, 03:41:23 AM: ffx was the last good final fantasy
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: iconoclast on January 28, 2012, 03:42:27 AM: Square will bounce back once they finally make The Last Remnant 2
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Damian79 on January 28, 2012, 04:03:02 AM: Quote from: iconoclast on January 28, 2012, 03:42:27 AM
Square will bounce back once they finally make The Last Remnant 2

:ROCK
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2012, 05:47:17 AM: What was wrong with Agito?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 28, 2012, 10:09:53 AM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 28, 2012, 05:47:17 AM
What was wrong with Agito?

Same here. I heard good things about it initially.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 12:15:57 PM: The battle system is shallow and there are only like 10 enemies the entire game, the RTS battles are terrible, the world map is the worst I've ever seen, the airship is an optional quest that you can't do until the final dungeon and then there's nowhere you can actually go with it and you lose it when you continue the story, the narrative structure is like Third Birthday where it jumps around and makes no sense as you're playing it but like XIII, if you spend 5 hours reading the database there's a decent story in there somewhere, there's basically no character development, the game is geared toward multiplayer and highly repetitive, the game balance is incredibly shit, there are tons of boss fights and stages where it's literally impossible to die/lose and there's no satisfaction, lots of forced "you must lose this fight" boss fights, and the game is geared toward new game+ as half the game is locked away the first 30-40 hour playthrough so you get a shit game first run and possibly a decent game 2nd run.

There are a lot of other problems with it, but generally the game suffers from a lack of direction and identity. It feels like the team had no idea what game they were making and just kept making different sections hoping things would come together in the end.

It has some redeeming values and I don't think it's terrible, but it's definitely the worst game I've ever played with the FF name attached to it. To me, "disaster" is the key word I got from it.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 28, 2012, 12:17:44 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
It has some redeeming values and I don't think it's terrible, but it's definitely the worst game I've ever played with the FF name attached to it.

Really? Why'd you skip FFXIII?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 12:19:03 PM: XIII was/is still better :P

But both are messes and neither are particularly good.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 28, 2012, 12:23:02 PM: Final Fantasy 2
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: maxy on January 28, 2012, 12:24:24 PM: You will be back for Versus and FFXIII-3
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: demi on January 28, 2012, 12:42:13 PM: Bebpo will be busy playing one of his bland grind robot games
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Positive Touch on January 28, 2012, 03:00:51 PM: like he'd ever leave the kingdom hearts series
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 03:12:41 PM: KH is different!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the gameplay is always fun
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Title: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2012, 03:59:02 PM: You loathe narratives you can't follow, yet you're willing to play a game with Toriyama's version of time traveling as a core mechanic.

C'mon man. You're either slow or enjoy self-flagellating your feeble weeabo psyche* if you think this game will have a half-decent, or even comprehensible narration.

I heard it literally jumps all over the place and makes no sense, to often unintentional humorous levels.

* (I say this with all the love and admiration for your tenacity)
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Himu on January 28, 2012, 04:00:57 PM: FF13-2's real ending owns. That's all I know.

I don't mind Toriyama writing in 13-2 so long as the game is fun and judging by the demo, it is.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 28, 2012, 04:04:33 PM: You ain't treatin' me right, Billy-Bob-Joe McGuffey. Imma gonna leave you one day.
No you ain't. Now shut your yappin and go on in the kitchen and make me a Sammich before your shift at Volcanic Eruptions starts.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: MCD on January 28, 2012, 04:05:51 PM: HOPE
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 28, 2012, 04:17:59 PM: Anyhow, here is my FINAL FANTASY AGITO review:

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Ok, I spent 6 hours reading all the story/database stuff at FF Wiki, downloaded a 100% save and scoured through the history database, the character/enemy database, watched some of the key new game+ cutscenes, and started a new game+

The narrative is a lot more enjoyable on the 2nd run just because you actually understand what is going on behind what's presented. You understand the character motivations, you know who everyone is, you get all the jargon. Might actually enjoy the story this time around. Plus running around killing everyone in 1 hit instead of me being killed by everyone in 1 hit is a nice change. Should be able to speedrun the story fairly quickly.

The story is interesting. The worldview is really fleshed out thanks to the database (like XIII basically), however if you take a story that is kind of not that good? And then you layer it with layer upon layer of details and convolutions to make it deeper and create a satisfyingly large worldview, does that in itself make the story become good? I don't really know. The story seems interesting and good from a perspective of "look how complex it is" but then when you finally grasp all the details and you summarize the core tale into 3 sentences, it sounds kind of dumb. Still, I would have rather XIII had Type 0's story with XIII's production values and narrative presentation than the way we got it.

My pros and cons overall:

Pros:
-Music is incredible. Wish there were more unique tracks (about 3/4ths of the soundtrack is just different mixes/arranges of about 5-10 tunes total), but every track is really stellar.
-Excellent visuals. Great texture work, character models, CG movies.
-Battle system is fast and fun.
-Story is fairly complex and has enough depth for a full rpg tale
-It has a some nice nods to past FFs with things like Magitek Armor riding, Tonberrys, etc..

Cons:
-RTS battles. They need to seriously just be REMOVED from the western version entirely. They are absolute shit. Any college kid at a game design school could make something better than this. Obviously this is not a genre the Japanese are used to making and it shows. This isn't even "my first rts", it's just a shovelware bad RTS and there's too many RTS sections in the game both required and optional.

-The battle system simply lacks any real depth. While it's fast and fun. It never advances beyond how it is in the first 3 hours until 100 hours in. All you do is dodge and attack with either a physical attack or magic. Your AI partners are useless, and you run around the battlefield from enemy to enemy doing the same thing. You have HUNDREDS of moves between the 14 characters, however leveling up and getting new ones was not any fun because they would always be useless. So many useless moves, which might just be a fault of the battle system not requiring depth or skill.

-Enemy variety is terrible. While parts of the game feel like a full sized 30 hour rpg, the fact that you just fight the same 8-10 or so enemies over and over the entire game makes it feel small size. Especially because the battle system is just about learning each enemies attack pattern so you know when to counter hit. If anything, they should have spent another 6 months just making more enemies for the game.

-The gameplay sucks. This is just imo, but the game structure is very bad. You do 1 or 2 scripted corridor missions per chapter that are just corridor after corridor of fighting a handful of enemies (much like FFXIII) and then between them you can run around on the world map which is big and empty and has almost nothing to do. The game feels so streamlined and scripted with tons of bosses you're supposed to lose or parts where you can't die that it's like they just wanted to make a movie but had to throw some gameplay in between cutscenes. I never felt like the team had any idea what game they were trying to make. Was it an interactive corridor movie like FFXIII? Was it a walking on a world map simulator? Was it an RTS game? Was it a school simulator like Persona 3/4? Was it an airplane shooter? Every aspect of the game feels completely isolated like they were made by different teams and then stitched together in the end. Nothing feels cohesive and it just makes for a game that feels like a mess and you never quite know what kind of game it is.

-The narrative presentation is a mess. Just like the gameplay, the way the narrative is told is confused, convoluted, and jumps from event to event without ever making the player care or fully aware of what is going on. It reminds me A LOT of the presentation of The Third Birthday's story. Part of this is because they hide a lot of cutscenes in new game+, so the first time you play through the story in 25-40 hours you get an unsatisfying mess of a story and then the NEXT time you play it again you get a decent to good story. This is pretty bad design imo. BoFV and Nier do stuff like this, but they're also short games and their stories are still satisfying and able to be understood the first time and the future runs just flesh the tales and the characters and the worlds out. That's how you do it. You don't just cut out essential parts of the explanations and plot and fuck up how the story comes across to a player the first time they play it just because you want to entice them to play it again. I'm guessing most players only finish games once so they're left with a half-assed convoluted mess of a story here.

-There is no character development. Even with the extended new game+ scenes, Type 0 is all about PLOT and has lots of PLOT, what it doesn't have are any actual human-like characters. Every character is an archetype and they don't change one bit from the beginning of the tale to the end. This includes the villains and the support characters. NOBODY EVER CHANGES or grows or anything, except maybe 1 or 2 minor side characters. Which makes the ending seem a bit bs as well. The story is about the large scale plot and the individual characters don't seem to matter at all. At least XIII had a ton of character development, even if the plot was kind of lame.

-The world map is a waste and not fun. The person|map size ratio is really off and coupled with the movement speed, getting around the world map feels like a chore and is no fun. Chocobos help but having to keep Chocobos in stock and keep catching them on the map is tedious. The fact that chocobos disappear while you are riding them, so you need to use several to get across the map is lame. The fact that some of the areas in the game are only accessible by going through connecting caves so you lose your chocobo and have to use another one when you get out is lame. That you don't get the airship, which is optional, until right before the final dungeon, and then there's nothing much to do with it and once you continue the story you lose it again is lame. Having a world map should be fun and enjoyable to traverse. Here it's all pretty lame and I'd rather have just had a point and click map.

-The cities are pointless. They are tiny 1 room places, they all look like one of 3 different types, and there's nothing to do in them besides find the person selling things and find the 1 person in them who has a single quest and then you never re-visit that town again.

-The game balance sucks. You're either overleveled or underleveled and your characters are dying in 1 or 2 hits or you're killing everyone in 1 hit, there's just no balance where it ever feels just right like a normal rpg. Summons are generally useless because you have to level them separately and because you can't use them outside of story missions (who thought this was a good idea??). Magic is powerful, but most of the magic is generally the same and some are useless (the ones where you have to stand still and aim and charge are not really viable when things are attacking you), and while the idea of leveling magic is cool, when you start doing that and the MP cost jumps up dramatically, it's just makes magic-based characters not very good because with spells costing over 100MP a use, you're getting like 8-9 shots of it in a stage between restore points and there's probably 30-40 enemies in between.

-And my biggest gripe is the leveling system is the worst. By giving you 14 characters and not having shared experience, and being a game where you level incredibly slow like an MMO, your characters are never anywhere near each other in levels, you always feel underleveled in your first playthrough, and it makes you pick a couple of characters you will main with and stick with them the whole game because everyone else is too far back in levels to be worth using. I'm guessing this was all because of the focus on local multiplayer because that's the cool thing to do in Japan with your buddies. However for the western release where people don't huddle around in groups with psps to play rpgs for hours, FIX THE LEVELING FOR THE WESTERN VERSION if you want to make western gamers like your game.

I'd give the game something like a 6/10 first playthrough and then 7.5 or 8/10 on future playthroughs when you're overpowered and can speed run and have the story background going in.

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Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Vizzys on January 28, 2012, 04:40:47 PM: sqeenix should just make twewy 2
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 28, 2012, 04:41:55 PM: There are RTS segments? WHAT. THE. FUCK.

:maf
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 28, 2012, 04:50:54 PM: Quote from: magus
oh god,you guys don't come cry to me when this is revealed to be a huge turd

NOSTRAMAGUS

Quote from: Viz on January 28, 2012, 04:40:47 PM
sqeenix should just make twewy 2

NOPE,YOU GET FINAL FANTASY FOREVER
but in all seriousness,i blame this shitty gen that killed konami and the like for having less squaresoft awesome games
Title: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2012, 05:23:46 PM: Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 28, 2012, 04:00:57 PM
FF13-2's real ending owns. That's all I know.

I don't mind Toriyama writing in 13-2 so long as the game is fun and judging by the demo, it is.

I don't mind it either, but if people are expecting or hoping for decent narration, they'll probably end up being disappointed.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: demi on January 28, 2012, 05:35:12 PM: i'm so hype for this game...
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: SantaC on January 28, 2012, 05:41:46 PM: IGN gave FFXIII-2 an 8 so that must mean it is a 5/10 in real scoring. Not good.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 28, 2012, 06:48:04 PM: Quote from: SantaC on January 28, 2012, 05:41:46 PM
IGN gave FFXIII-2 an 8 so that must mean it is a 5/10 in real scoring. Not good.

edge gave it a 6... sounds like a winner to me :smug
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Positive Touch on January 28, 2012, 10:37:49 PM: so basically it sounds like agito needed a few more months to tweak the battle system and dramatically improve the game, except that it was in development for FIVE FUCKING YEARS. sqeenix nowadays seems like it's being managed about as good as ion storm was back in the day.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 29, 2012, 10:31:27 PM: hiding cutscenes 'til new game + is just bizarre - what could possibly be the rationale there? Is there some twist that would be spoiled by 'em or something...?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2012, 12:40:58 AM: Nah. You know how Japanese companies are all about having XXX HOUR PADDED CONTENT? Instead of like "short, tight game experiences" Like how the Disgaea people say 4 million hours and stuff.

So the FF guy says "you haven't really beaten our game if you've only finished it once", so now instead of a 30 hour rpg, it's a 50-60 hour rpg! BAM! EXTRA CONTENT.

:(

In BoFV the idea was that the story is complete on the first playthrough and makes sense, but because it's a short game and has replay value, in subsequent playthroughs you get more scenes that expand and flesh out the story. I haven't played Nier yet, but I think that's how it does it as well. Which I'm ok with. You get a good complete story the first time through and if you're still into it you get more cutscenes. But in FF Type 0 it's like the story is nonsense and you need the extra cutscenes to help make sense of it all.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Damian79 on January 30, 2012, 02:49:16 AM: I cant find hte med kit in this game for the first side quest. :(
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2012, 02:51:16 AM: I figured it's something I'll come back and do later? I'm assuming the quests stick around as you travel time to solve them...
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Damian79 on January 30, 2012, 02:59:44 AM: Quote from: Bebpo on January 30, 2012, 02:51:16 AM
I figured it's something I'll come back and do later? I'm assuming the quests stick around as you travel time to solve them...

I see. Thanks. I was thinking htat it is one of those games that you cant complete quests after you do something like xenoblade chronicles.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: SantaC on January 30, 2012, 12:15:38 PM: wasnt FFX-2 the biggest offender of timed quests?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2012, 12:18:07 PM: From the Edge review:

"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight."

cool bro
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 30, 2012, 12:31:25 PM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
From the Edge review:

"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight."

cool bro

so it's like 9/10 xenoblade? :smug
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 12:50:20 PM: Quote from: magus on January 30, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
From the Edge review:

"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight."

cool bro

so it's like 9/10 xenoblade? :smug

In what way?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 30, 2012, 01:47:44 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: magus on January 30, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
From the Edge review:

"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight."

cool bro

so it's like 9/10 xenoblade? :smug

In what way?

i can win battles by sitting on my ass doing nothing in xenoblade too
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 02:02:46 PM: Quote from: magus on January 30, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: magus on January 30, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
From the Edge review:

"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight."

cool bro

so it's like 9/10 xenoblade? :smug

In what way?

i can win battles by sitting on my ass doing nothing in xenoblade too

Really now?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 30, 2012, 03:40:15 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
Quote from: magus on January 30, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: magus on January 30, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
From the Edge review:

"As an experiment, we left Serah and company to fend for themselves over the course of ten battles, with no player input. With an idle player character and two AI companions set up to attack and heal, our party emerged victorious from every fight."

cool bro

so it's like 9/10 xenoblade? :smug

In what way?

i can win battles by sitting on my ass doing nothing in xenoblade too

Really now?

uh yeah? dunban tanks,sharla heal... shulk is more like a third wheel that just speed up the fight
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 03:52:32 PM: Why are you still playing with Shulk?
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: magus on January 30, 2012, 03:55:20 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2012, 03:52:32 PM
Why are you still playing with Shulk?

he's the only one that can hit robots and his attack cap at 999 near 70% of the game
plus i'm OCD and i have to play as the main character no matter what
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: demi on January 30, 2012, 03:59:04 PM: Why wouldn't you play as Shulk.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Bebpo on January 30, 2012, 06:20:39 PM: Yeah, I dunno. Playing XIII-2 just reminds me that I had a love/hate relationship with the XIII battle system. It's fast which is a plus and the break system is solid, but it's really too easy and always feels too auto. It lowers the satisfaction of playing a good rpg when there is no challenge. I hear XIII-2 is easy until the final dungeon :|
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: Damian79 on January 30, 2012, 11:33:39 PM: I dunno why but i am having a hard time with this game on normal. I have to use potions AND have to have a medic pokemon on my team.
Title: Re: Square! That's it. You Are On Your Last Legs With Me! XIII-2 or Bust
Post by: naff on January 31, 2012, 01:05:42 AM: Sounds like you need to spend a few minutes setting up good paradigms. COM SAB SYN is bread and butter starting paradigm for harder battles, COM abilities slow enemies chain gauge and you want to buff/debuff with SYN/SAB asap. COM deals more damage than RAV but doesn't build the chain gauge much so something like COM RAV RAV or RAV RAV RAV for building chain quickly is a must. Have a fallback paradigm for edgy moments like MED MED SEN, or just MED MED MED and then a couple of mixed defense/offense paradigms in between. The strategy lies in changing to the best paradigm for the situation at the right moment (i.e. maximising DPS while also staying alive) then later on you'll get abilities you might want to trigger manually but for the most part just auto battle.