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Title: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
I'm making fried chicken with some thighs I have. And I know The Bore knows Yum Brands, so when they aren't biblically knowing Taco Bell they might know and best the Colonel. So I ask... (RACIST!)

Do you prefer it more uniform, straight flour:
(http://i.imgur.com/SqW7k.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RQYhX.jpg)

Or with more of those nubbins:
(http://i.imgur.com/1Aoiu.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yKplW.jpg)

Marinate in buttermilk? Or a brine? Both?

What's the spices? Eleven herbs and spices, or more?

Deep fry? Or shallow fry and finish in the oven?

How does The Bore do fried chicken?

Related, I watched this show last year with a "food hacker" called Top Secret Recipes and the guy was trying to figure out the KFC recipe. I figured I'd try some of it, and found out that a bit of ginger is a pretty clutch ingredient.

Here's the episode: http://www.cmt.com/videos/top-secret-recipe-101-kfc/1672169/full-episode.jhtml
No idea about non-U.S. viewers.

Recipe: http://www.cmt.com/news/feature/1671196/todd-wilburs-version-of-kfc-original-recipe-fried-chicken.jhtml
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 09:59:09 AM
Go to the Korean place and get Bon Chon chicken.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs
You act like there has to be a choice.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Diunx on April 11, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

Sushi :yuck
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs
You act like there has to be a choice.
Ofcourse you can have both, in general I just prefer things that wont kill me before im 30

Quote from: Diunx on April 11, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

Sushi :yuck
your face :maf
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2012, 10:07:37 AM
I approve of this thread.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2012, 10:08:08 AM
Popeyes :bow2
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 10:10:22 AM
Will have to check out that Bon Chon chicken, I've incorporated some "Asian" aspects to my "boring" cooking over the years. Panko is almost mainstream now, but it's a nice coating on standard fried chicken anyway.
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 10:04:26 AM
Ofcourse you can have both, in general I just prefer things that wont kill me before im 30
Fried chicken isn't gonna kill you. It's gods gift to us.

And something fried in delicious delicious fat is probably a lot safer than raw fish.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 11, 2012, 10:10:33 AM
how about you get out of the goddamned fried chicken thread and start a sushi thread, then, momo

i like lots of crust, the crumbs that fall off into the bowl are the best part
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mupepe on April 11, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
sushi is gross.  fast food fried chicken isn't much better though
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
[strongbold]momo[bold]

For the record, I prefer an establishment called Church's Chicken. Now I get out :maf
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
i miss grilled chicken alot. i loved the flaky kind so much but i've never had real legit fried chicken just KFC or what the local supermarket sells
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 11, 2012, 10:23:48 AM
a life without fried chicken is NOT a life worth living

fuck sushi
I have to imagine that I must worship you at this point.
Quote from: Mupepe on April 11, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
sushi is gross.  fast food fried chicken isn't much better though
Not about fast food, about destroying that standard and how we all can ascend to the brilliance that is Bore Fried Chicken.
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on April 11, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
i miss grilled chicken alot.
Grilled chicken is great, but it's like a whole other reality than fried chicken.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mupepe on April 11, 2012, 10:30:48 AM
I'd be interested too.  I've failed every time I have tried to do fried chicken at home (except wings but that's super easy). 
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 10:33:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 11, 2012, 10:23:48 AM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 10:04:26 AM

Ofcourse you can have both, in general I just prefer things that wont kill me before im 30

a life without fried chicken is NOT a life worth living

fuck sushi


Dammit when you all die I'm going to go all TOLD and point at the chicken. I will laugh manically for 10 seconds, then cry and feel bad. Why you guys do this to me :(


You guys have church's right?


http://www.churchs.com/index.html
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 10:37:46 AM
i meant to say fried, my bad.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: Mupepe on April 11, 2012, 10:30:48 AM
I'd be interested too.  I've failed every time I have tried to do fried chicken at home (except wings but that's super easy).
Here's more or less what I do, though I tinker like hell.

I often get Leg Quarters because they're like 79 cents a pound, or Amish Drumstick/Thighs and you don't really have to put too much effort into them.

For thighs, I usually do a buttermilk brine that also has garlic, paprika, ginger, pepper and depending on things other stuff in it. And I give it overnight.

Then I'll toss in some flour seasoned with similar spices. Savory, white pepper, red pepper flakes, majoram, etc. can be added, just whatever I feel like more than anything. I might add sugar, corn starch, baking powder, cracker meal, etc. for texturing or flavor.

Usually I do shallow fry in maybe half an inch if that of canola oil, about three minutes per side, then onto a rack over a foiled pan. (for cleanup) Then in 400 degree oven for a bit to make sure it's cooked and to crisp up the skin more.

For breasts, I tend not to brine, instead I motorboat, but in reality it's because after I cut them up it makes things kinda tough from my experience. I tend to just cut them up into tenders and toss in the seasoned flour, and don't do the baking since they cook through.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mupepe on April 11, 2012, 11:00:14 AM
I'll have to give that a shot.  I've only tried a few times but I always fried the whole way through and used a basic flour and spice mix.  But the flour mix never seemed to "grab on" during the fry if you know what I mean.  when it was done it would just kinda slide off.  Not very good. 
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 11:08:37 AM
As far as fast food fried chicken goes, Popeye's is by far my favorite. Unfortunately the only place around here that has a Popeye's is in Hempstead... and you don't go to Hempstead if you can help it (especially if you're white)... There's a great soul food place over near Roosevelt Field that has some good fried chicken (but I prefer their ribs), its owned by Eddie Murphy's former chef.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 11:15:33 AM
If you don't use eggs or something to bind (I usually don't because it's work) just stick the pieces in a zip-top bag and toss it in that and when it looks coated, let it sit for a few minutes and it should adhere.

I still get stuff falling off but the pieces are nicely coated. Sometimes it's worth it to do a fully flour+spice coat, then you see it's not fully covered you dump in some more flour to cover, which makes that second coat.

The shallow fry method is basically to cook the outside and make it stick, and then you use the oven to cook the chicken itself, that way you aren't burning the coating.

Random note for anyone: I like unbleached all purpose flour, some people can taste the bleaching agent and I'm one of those, if it comes out with a funny aftertaste you're possibly tasting that. Many people don't notice it though.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Spurgeon on April 11, 2012, 12:59:23 PM
Popeyes is my favorite, but it seriously is hit or miss. And what the hell is up with their biscuits? That thing has no resemblance to a real biscuit. It looks like a combination of a hockey puck and sponge. Al must have taken the recipe with him after he lost Popeyes, because they are far superior at Copeland's.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Robo on April 11, 2012, 01:01:20 PM
Popeye's [gravy] is fuckin' awesome.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2012, 01:03:01 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

the fuck?
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:06:23 PM
I've never had KFC. Real talk.

Ezell's is awesome fried chicken here in Seattle. Oprah has it FedEx'd to her.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2012, 01:03:01 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

the fuck?
Let's meet in the middle and have tempura prawns
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: TEEEPO on April 11, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

i don't understand how anyone could even prefer the USofA over Japan.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
How about karaage, you dirty weeaboo?
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
How about karaage, you dirty weeaboo?
Then we are right back at the oily heart bombs :lol
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: TEEEPO on April 11, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
i don't understand how anyone could even prefer the USofA over Japan.
BARACK. OBAMA.

oh shit kenya
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Welcome to Kentucky like a century ago.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Welcome to Kentucky like a century ago.

DUH. Directed at momo and his fear of oily fried chicken.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Actually, I did not. My experience with fried chicken doesnt go past KFC, Church's and Nando's(doesnt count really)
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
DUH. Directed at momo and his fear of oily fried chicken.
He tasks me.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Steve Youngblood on April 11, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

What an odd post.

Me: "What do you think honey? I'm thinking KFC?"

Wife: "Ugh... too unhealthy. Let's go with the obvious alternative to fried chicken: sushi."
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 03:35:05 PM
Actually, I've seen chicken tempura rolls before at some sushi restaurants...
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 03:37:50 PM
KATSU
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Verdigris Murder on April 11, 2012, 04:06:35 PM
I use stuff called Willinghams, honestly, it's the best thing to use when doing fried-chicken.

When done right, it's comparable to sushi, but unlike sushi, it's not a racist food.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Huff on April 11, 2012, 04:18:50 PM
My grandfather makes the best Fried Chicken. I need to find out his secrets. A good alternative is Publix
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:35:32 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on April 11, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I cant be the only one here that prefers sushi over massively processed oil drenched heart bombs

What an odd post.

Me: "What do you think honey? I'm thinking KFC?"

Wife: "Ugh... too unhealthy. Let's go with the obvious alternative to fried chicken: sushi."
All takeout is substitute foods for one another
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Steve Youngblood on April 11, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:35:32 PM
All takeout is substitute foods for one another

Okay, sure. That still doesn't clarify anything. Basically, I thought it was odd that you immediately offered "I'd rather have sushi," as though it's the obvious alternative to fried chicken, as opposed to simply stating "I tend to shy away from fried chicken in favor of healthier options."
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:42:12 PM
I then went on to talk about church's chicken. It's not that I was pushing sushi as the best thing ever, it's that it jumped to mind and using it as an idolization of better food types saved me having to make a semi serious post.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Steve Youngblood on April 11, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
Fair enough.

That's what I'd say if I didn't want to belabor the stupidest argument ever. But I do.

You suck, Momo.

Your move.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:44:47 PM
"I tend to shy away from fried chicken in favor of healthier options."

This sounds like something I'd say over tea to fellow gentleman at the local golf club. I'd rather not post seriously unless I have to. 
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Steve Youngblood on April 11, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:44:47 PM
"I tend to shy away from fried chicken in favor of healthier options."

This sounds like something I'd say over tea to fellow gentleman at the local golf club. I'd rather not post seriously unless I have to.

Like you'd be allowed entry into the local golf club.

Burn?
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Verdigris Murder on April 11, 2012, 04:47:55 PM
Momo.

I have your back.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:51:01 PM
Only because of the times my dirty poor friends talked me into stealing golf balls in play when I was a teenager.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 11, 2012, 07:46:14 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 11, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
Here's the episode: http://www.cmt.com/videos/top-secret-recipe-101-kfc/1672169/full-episode.jhtml
No idea about non-U.S. viewers.

This is actually very fascimnating stuff, thanks for sharing. I started watching the first 15 minutes, then craved fried chicken like crazy. So I went to a nearby KFC. I haven't been to one in a long time, the chicken tastes like... :fbm

Edit:

Also, leper momo for derailing this other awesome thread. For shame. :wag
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Barry Egan on April 11, 2012, 07:57:23 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 04:42:12 PM
I then went on to talk about church's chicken. It's not that I was pushing sushi as the best thing ever, it's that it jumped to mind and using it as an idolization of better food types saved me having to make a semi serious post.

Also because you are the resident generic weeaboo and you have a quota to fill. 
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: The Sceneman on April 11, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
I made some homemade fried chicken the other week. It was my first time but I can give you some tips.

- apparently marinating the chicken in buttermilk is amazing. My roommate told me thats the way to go, but I didn't use it. Was in a hurry.

- don't go too crazy with the herbs and spices! Basically I went nuts with the seasoning, and Fennel Seed doesnt really work with chicken. Keep it basic and stick to flavours that you know.

- make sure the oil is hot enough! Use a thermometer if you have one. The oil wasnt hot enough for my first batch of chicken and the coating came out rubbery as opposed to crispy
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: benjipwns on April 13, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
I have another batch of thighs to do, thinking about trying a rub then a buttermilk brine just to see if it changes anything. Science seems to question it, but this is no time for science.

Apologies if the Momo derail was my doing, was poking fun. In these times you always get people lecturing you about eating delicious food.
Quote from: Shaka Khan on April 11, 2012, 07:46:14 PM
This is actually very fascimnating stuff, thanks for sharing. I started watching the first 15 minutes, then craved fried chicken like crazy.
He has a number of books with all sorts of things, I think somebody mentioned one of them in a thread here. Don't remember who it was unfortunately.

At least for the KFC, to me it was that ginger that added that unspoken flavor where you can't really figure out what it is until it's there. I like ginger a lot though, so might be that.
Quote from: Martin Raperman on April 11, 2012, 04:06:35 PM
I use stuff called Willinghams, honestly, it's the best thing to use when doing fried-chicken.
Rub or spices? Can't seem to get it to load in Chrome.

I've kinda gone for more direct spices and concoct my own because I can control amounts, like Sceneman notes. I do kinda like the garlic herb zesty blend Kroger has though as a backing.

Tried some Lawry's Seasoning Salt at one point, which are great on fries (another thread perhaps?) but didn't work for chicken.

It's blasphemy, but some easier "options" were mentioned and I kinda like the frozen Banquet drumsticks. When they're on sale I don't mind getting them to stash in the fridge in case I want something easy.

Which isn't a huge leap of easy since I have "real" drumsticks usually, but sometimes you just want to stick some crap in the oven fire up the Wii and drink yourself to a "New Record!"
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: chronovore on April 14, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
How about karaage, you dirty weeaboo?

I took a legit "southern boy" on a biz trip to Japan, and he was stunned at how good kara-age is. "I had no idea the Japanese could make excellent fried chicken." :lol
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Verdigris Murder on April 14, 2012, 04:30:53 PM
It would be simple to make a KFC foam, using an ISI whip, which is also an acronym of the Pakistan spy division.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Beezy on April 14, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Actually, I did not. My experience with fried chicken doesnt go past KFC, Church's and Nando's(doesnt count really)
Then shut the fuck up. Chicken noob.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Akala on April 14, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
Churches: poor chicken for poor people.

Popeyes :bow2

Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 14, 2012, 06:28:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkxvxV-S4wM
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Diunx on April 14, 2012, 08:38:50 PM
I love pop corn chicken :drool
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 14, 2012, 10:01:17 PM
$1.99 popcorn chicken is probably all Hammer can afford now.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 15, 2012, 12:45:23 AM
Quote from: Beezy on April 14, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Actually, I did not. My experience with fried chicken doesnt go past KFC, Church's and Nando's(doesnt count really)
Then shut the fuck up. Chicken noob.
Why are you complaining three days after I shut the fuck up? Thats lame as hell
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Beezy on April 15, 2012, 01:27:55 AM
I just saw the thread :(
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Momo on April 15, 2012, 02:40:03 AM
And now I'm talking more about fried chicken we both lose :(
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: parallax on April 15, 2012, 02:51:05 AM
Quote from: Beezy on April 14, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Actually, I did not. My experience with fried chicken doesnt go past KFC, Church's and Nando's(doesnt count really)
Then shut the fuck up. Chicken noob.
Chicken noob is the funniest shit I've heard all day. What kind of an insult is that?
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 15, 2012, 03:02:17 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 14, 2012, 06:28:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkxvxV-S4wM

'70s ad. I don't know how they afforded the blonde kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_PaxCru690

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I wish it supported CC, so you can get the funny.

"They call this new phenomenon in foreign lands the KENTACKAH (n), so do you want to TOKENTICK (v)?"

... and bad translation claim another funny.
[close]
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Robo on April 15, 2012, 03:49:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOoSe2K5DU
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: The Sceneman on April 15, 2012, 06:42:21 AM
shit robo, I just realised I hadn't posted that clip in this thread yet so I clicked the thread and scrolled down and BAM  :o


what the hell frieda chicken
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Beezy on April 15, 2012, 12:15:39 PM
Quote from: parallax on April 15, 2012, 02:51:05 AM
Quote from: Beezy on April 14, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: Momo on April 11, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 11, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
You do know that you can bake "fried" chicken in the oven (covered in corn flakes), right?
Actually, I did not. My experience with fried chicken doesnt go past KFC, Church's and Nando's(doesnt count really)
Then shut the fuck up. Chicken noob.
Chicken noob is the funniest shit I've heard all day. What kind of an insult is that?
Lol one that I didn't give much thought to. He is a fried chicken noob though, only having tried the fast food variety.
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: lennedsay on April 15, 2012, 07:41:51 PM
We take fried chicken seriously in my house, so "chicken noob" may be one of the most offensive things you could call someone.

White people  ::)
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Beezy on April 15, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
I know right ::)
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 15, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: fried chicken
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 15, 2012, 08:35:47 PM
I pan fry my chicken without the batter. Just throw some adobo and sazon on it and fry it in a shallow bit of oil. 30 minutes on one side, 30 on the other at a medium heat.