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Title: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 03, 2012, 11:31:45 AM
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THQ has announced the development of Saints Row: The Third – Enter The Dominatrix, a standalone expansion to the game for PC, PS3, and Xbox 360 which adds super-powers.


The expansion takes up where the core game left off with alien warlord Zinyak prepping his armada for invasion. Zinyak has captured the leader of the Third Street Saints, imprisoning him in an “elaborate virtual reality simulation.”

This simulation program looks and feels like Steelport, “but it is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. Here, you are a slave. Welcome to the Dominatrix.”

Righto. Don’t look for this to go down well with the Saints.

Upon release this fall it will run you $29.99.


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In what was initially intended as an April Fool's prank, THQ has made Saints Row: The Third - Enter The Dominatrix a reality.

The "groundbreaking" standalone expansion pack to Volition's over-the-top open-world title is due for a release this fall. The DLC add-on, which will release on the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC, follows the direction of the game and adds the most requested gameplay features stemming from the Saints Row community - "freaking super powers."

"Faster than a speeding cyber jetbike, more powerful than a roided-out Luchadore, able to leap flying aircraft carriers in a single bound... That's the power you'll find inside the Dominatrix. Use it for good. Use it for evil. Use it for whatever you want. As always in Saints Row, it's up to you," said Danny Bilson, THQ's EVP of Core Game Production. "With a franchise with more than 11 million units shipped globally, it's incredibly gratifying to have the flexibility to give Saints Row fans the features they want most."

Enter the Dominatrix takes place after the events of Saints Row: The Third. "For centuries, alien warlord Zinyak has eyed Earth and its precious natural resources and females with a watchful eye. As he prepares an armada for invasion, he has only one worry: the Third Street Saints," said THQ on the expansion.

"Once a simple street gang from Stilwater, the Saints have evolved into a global empire, replete with bombastic TV advertising and tasteful consumer products, the kind of TV advertising and consumer products that would give any alien warlord pause. Clearly, the Saints are the biggest badasses on Earth."

To prepare for invasion, Zinyak captures the leader of the saints and traps him in the titular Dominatrix, a virtual reality version of Steelport. Like the simulation in The Matrix, it's designed to pacify the people hooked up to it. The Saints aren't so easily controlled, though.

More details and gameplay footage of Saints Row: The Third - Enter the Dominatrix will be unveiled during the summer.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: bork on May 03, 2012, 11:55:56 AM
Hope it turns out to be much better than the DLC SR3 got.   :-\
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
"The expansion takes up where the core game left off with alien warlord Zinyak prepping his armada for invasion. Zinyak has captured the leader of the Third Street Saints, imprisoning him in an “elaborate virtual reality simulation.”

this is not where SR3 left off

what in the fuck
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 03, 2012, 12:07:13 PM
Hope it turns out to be much better than the DLC SR3 got.   :-\

yeah, as much as I loved the game (completed it twice, 100% the second time) ... the (free-to-me!) DLC left a sour taste in my mouth. :-\
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2012, 12:11:11 PM
SR2's dlc was horrible. Sounds like they continued the tradition.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 03, 2012, 12:21:30 PM
Retail = 1000pts

Yee, will buy
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: cool breeze on May 03, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
Hope it turns out to be much better than the DLC SR3 got.   :-\

yeah, as much as I loved the game (completed it twice, 100% the second time) ... the (free-to-me!) DLC left a sour taste in my mouth. :-\

yeah, I got the game for $20-some on the euro-THQ site that included the DLC.  Played the alien and clone ones, maybe around an hour of game time between them.  If I payed the $7 for each, I would've felt ripped off.

SR3 Off the Record is $30 and set in the same city.  That plus the DLC experience doesn't make this very appealing. 
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 03, 2012, 12:32:10 PM
"The expansion takes up where the core game left off with alien warlord Zinyak prepping his armada for invasion. Zinyak has captured the leader of the Third Street Saints, imprisoning him in an “elaborate virtual reality simulation.”

this is not where SR3 left off

what in the fuck

The first quote is shoddy writing.

The second quote makes more sense

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Enter the Dominatrix takes place after the events of Saints Row: The Third. "For centuries, alien warlord Zinyak has eyed Earth and its precious natural resources and females with a watchful eye. As he prepares an armada for invasion, he has only one worry: the Third Street Saints," said THQ on the expansion.

AKA SR3 happened, this takes place in an unknown time afterwards
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 03, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
$29.99  :(

Well, if it's a substantial enough amount of content...I'm coo
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 03, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
It sounds like they're pulling an Off the Record. Now I get to play Saints Row 3 all over again.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 03, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
"The expansion takes up where the core game left off with alien warlord Zinyak prepping his armada for invasion. Zinyak has captured the leader of the Third Street Saints, imprisoning him in an “elaborate virtual reality simulation.”

this is not where SR3 left off

what in the fuck

i think a serious non sequitur follow up would be the most hilarious thing they could do.

Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 03, 2012, 02:10:37 PM
"The expansion takes up where the core game left off with alien warlord Zinyak prepping his armada for invasion. Zinyak has captured the leader of the Third Street Saints, imprisoning him in an “elaborate virtual reality simulation.”

this is not where SR3 left off

what in the fuck

i think a serious non sequitur follow up would be the most hilarious thing they could do.


"Previously on Saints Row...*recap of SR3*"

"And now...the conclusion *begins with alien armada attacking Earth*"
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
I dislike this a lot. we've known about the mars crap since red faction: guerilla had shaundi in space, but I don't want third street saints fighting aliens, that sounds dumb. TOO DUMB. I just want to be a boss gansta leader who who takes over other gangs, no space shit.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 03, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
I want to play more Saints Row.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Bebpo on May 03, 2012, 03:02:10 PM
Will wait for reviews.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: magus on May 03, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
I dislike this a lot. we've known about the mars crap since red faction: guerilla had shaundi in space, but I don't want third street saints fighting aliens, that sounds dumb. TOO DUMB. I just want to be a boss gansta leader who who takes over other gangs, no space shit.

:teehee

i welcome our new whimsy overlords
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Momo on May 03, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
any word on when?
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 03, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
... read the article
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Positive Touch on May 03, 2012, 04:33:18 PM
I want to play more Saints Row.

seconded.  it's a new set of missions where you get to have crazy-out-the-ass superpowers.  who cares what the story is it's going to be fun as fuck
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Bebpo on May 03, 2012, 05:52:36 PM
They already did that in the last dlc though...
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 03, 2012, 05:54:52 PM
You guys are such crybabies.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2012, 06:03:07 PM
Sounds like Saints Row meets that open world Hulk game
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: chronovore on May 03, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
I dislike this a lot. we've known about the mars crap since red faction: guerilla had shaundi in space, but I don't want third street saints fighting aliens, that sounds dumb. TOO DUMB. I just want to be a boss gansta leader who who takes over other gangs, no space shit.

:teehee

i welcome our new whimsy overlords

I'm with Magus.

Except I'll actually purchase my copy.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Bebpo on May 03, 2012, 08:00:58 PM
You guys are such crybabies.

Hey, I'm all for an expansion pack if they handle it right. 

However if it's like the DLCs, and is just 15 hours of new missions in the same city with the same gameplay and nothing new besides some superpowers (which you already had in trouble with clones)....might get kind of boring.

It needs new places to explore, new properties to purchase, new character levels to gain, etc...

Also you shouldn't be allowed to use your SR3 character.  It's less fun when you're using your max level character who is invincibile to everything and has infinite ammo and all the best weapons because there's no sense of any progress.  I hope this Expansion restarts you to level 1.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 03, 2012, 08:39:59 PM
Sounds like Saints Row meets that open world Hulk game

sounds like rainbows, candy, and money shooting out of a supermodel's asshole to me
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: pilonv1 on May 06, 2012, 07:54:28 PM
"you're ruining the well crafted and completely based in reality Saints Row canon. How can you disrespect the brand like this??? :maf "
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Himu on May 06, 2012, 11:55:55 PM
In my case, I don't like it because it's unoriginal. How many games can we think of that is about an alien invasion threat? Countless. Saints Row is unique because it subverts the gangsta open world style tropes and storylines into something fresh and funny and unique. I guess that's why I'm not down for making it all about space crap, but I'm open for it if it's done well, because if SR3 showed us anything, they're great at handling satire towards any genre.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: chronovore on May 07, 2012, 12:57:57 AM
Himumu, you'll. Buy it on day one and like it.

Weren't you the one all down on Red Dead Redemption, saying it was just goin to be GTA on a horse?

Speculation about what this will or won't be is über pointless. This thread is just to count prelaunch boners.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: bork on May 08, 2012, 10:46:44 AM
In my case, I don't like it because it's unoriginal. How many games can we think of that is about an alien invasion threat? Countless. Saints Row is unique because it subverts the gangsta open world style tropes and storylines into something fresh and funny and unique. I guess that's why I'm not down for making it all about space crap, but I'm open for it if it's done well, because if SR3 showed us anything, they're great at handling satire towards any genre.

It doesn't sound like the expansion is "all about space crap" anyway- it's gonna be (virtual) Steelport with super powers.  Re-using the same city worked for Grand Theft Auto, so why not Saint's Row?
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: chronovore on May 08, 2012, 10:48:43 AM
Actually, it worked 90% that way for Saints Row 2, so I don't know why anyone is surprised. Stillwater in SR2 added some islands, a mountain, and a college, but it was largely the same map.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 08, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
In my case, I don't like it because it's unoriginal. How many games can we think of that is about an alien invasion threat? Countless. Saints Row is unique because it subverts the gangsta open world style tropes and storylines into something fresh and funny and unique. I guess that's why I'm not down for making it all about space crap, but I'm open for it if it's done well, because if SR3 showed us anything, they're great at handling satire towards any genre.

Maybe it'll subvert the alien invasion threat style tropes and storylines into something fresh and funny and unique? Nope, it'll probably suck, let's just all whine like babies instead.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: cool breeze on May 08, 2012, 11:15:04 AM
I just want it to go crazy with super powers.  Flying around and stealing planes in midair, Just Cause 2 style.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 11, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
This thread reminded me I still hadn't finished SR3 and all the DLC, so I went ahead and got that taken care. Beat all the DLC and got a 69% completion ( :teehee ) on the main game.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 22, 2012, 02:37:55 PM
While you're waiting for Enter the Dominatrix, there's...uh....this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AWaQCQpB0g

Seems totally worthwhile.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
In my case, I don't like it because it's unoriginal. How many games can we think of that is about an alien invasion threat? Countless. Saints Row is unique because it subverts the gangsta open world style tropes and storylines into something fresh and funny and unique. I guess that's why I'm not down for making it all about space crap, but I'm open for it if it's done well, because if SR3 showed us anything, they're great at handling satire towards any genre.

Maybe it'll subvert the alien invasion threat style tropes and storylines into something fresh and funny and unique? Nope, it'll probably suck, let's just all whine like babies instead.

I did say I was open towards it and that they're great at subverting genre tropes. :-*
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Trent Dole on May 22, 2012, 04:34:47 PM
A hawt chix pack? Really?
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 27, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
dunno if anyone noticed but if you play SR3 right now, all the Saints ads in the downtown area now have been replaced with alien "They Live" type of ads for some alien called Zynak.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: demi on May 27, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
I picked up a Season Pass for $10 on CAG, will go back and clean up.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 27, 2012, 10:30:45 PM
I picked up a Season Pass for $10 on CAG, will go back and clean up.

The DLC missions were pretty meh on the whole, but I liked Gangstas in Space and the one mission in The Trouble With Clones where you got superpowers was awesome. It was worth $10.
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Momo on June 20, 2012, 07:21:05 AM
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Saints Row: The Third - Enter The Dominatrix will no longer be released as a standalone expansion, THQ has confirmed. Instead, it will be folded into a full Saints Row sequel due in 2013.

 The move appears to be the first major decision made by Jason Rubin, the co-founder of Uncharted developer Naughty Dog who was appointed THQ president last month.

 "When I looked at the Enter The Dominatrix expansion in production at Volition, I was blown away by the ideas and desire to expand the fiction of the franchise," Rubin said. "I asked the team what it could achieve given more time, more resources, and a broader scope for the project. We all agreed that we wanted to play that game.

 "When it comes to Saints Row, it's clear our fans want bigger, better and even more over the top, and that's why Enter The Dominatrix will now be incorporated into a vastly expanded, fully fledged sequel, scheduled for calendar 2013."

 Intriguingly, it seems a multiplayer component is in the works, with Rubin adding: "We believe the potential for this sequel is far greater as a full-priced, full-length, high-quality connected experience."
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2012, 07:28:35 AM
Alright, if you say so...
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 20, 2012, 07:35:32 AM
attn devs: NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO PAY $60 FOR A GAME FOR FUCKS SAKE
Title: Re: Standalone expansion for Saints Row: The Third (Enter The Dominatrix)
Post by: Momo on June 20, 2012, 07:43:52 AM
someone update the thread title to  SR3 : Failed To Enter The Dominatrix
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: demi on June 20, 2012, 08:31:34 AM
This is pretty shitty news. It's going to get annihilated in 2013.

Still, makes room for Dead Island Riptide now.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2012, 08:37:06 AM
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Intriguingly, it seems a multiplayer component is in the works,

Yes very intriguing, if only Saints Row The Third or any previous Saints Row games had multiplayer modes.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
If they're just folding it into what would have been Saints Row 4, I don't really mind. It sounded like something they were going to stick into the gap between games anyway.

Especially if 4 takes the leap 2 did. I'm holding out for that hero.

I'm :hyper anyway for a fourth Saints Row game. One of the best uses of this generation easily.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 20, 2012, 10:19:39 AM
It's hard to get excited about this news because it really screams of "last grab at cash by a dying company on one of the few franchises that makes money." But maybe it'll turn out to be really cool as a full retail release.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2012, 10:26:36 AM
It sounds like they're just taking the Enter the Dominatrix content and working it into Saint's Row 4. Which is probably just as well, because none of the SR3 DLC was really that good on it's own. I'd rather them have all their resources going into a full-fledged SR4.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 20, 2012, 10:42:51 AM
So I guess this means that SR4 will reuse the same city?  Hopefully the city jump is as interesting as SR1->2.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 20, 2012, 11:02:46 AM
Translation: We realized the term "standalone expansion" meant we couldn't sell it for full price, so we changed our phrasing.

Bet you it ends up being exactly what they originally intended it to be.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 11:43:31 AM
:rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Trent Dole on June 20, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
Translation: We realized the term "standalone expansion" meant we couldn't sell it for full price, so we changed our phrasing.

Bet you it ends up being exactly what they originally intended it to be.
Saints Row The Third ODST?
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: chronovore on June 20, 2012, 03:07:54 PM
Translation: We realized the term "standalone expansion" meant we couldn't sell it for full price, so we changed our phrasing.

Bet you it ends up being exactly what they originally intended it to be.

I think they'll do something on the order of SR1 to SR2, in that it will be the same basic environment with enough geometry changes to support the new and varied gameplay. And we'll all buy it on day one anyway.

My only worry is THQ staying in business into 2013, which is by no means certain.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 20, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
My only worry is THQ staying in business into 2013, which is by no means certain.

Yyyyyeah not so sure on this one.

I wonder what's gonna happen to Yuke's and the Darksiders guys.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: chronovore on June 20, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
My only worry is THQ staying in business into 2013, which is by no means certain.

Yyyyyeah not so sure on this one.

I wonder what's gonna happen to Yuke's and the Darksiders guys.

Vigil will be purchased by EA, Bethesda, or Activision to handle some new property, or even to continue Darksiders if THQ fire-sales its IP. The worry is if THQ jettisons a mess of staff after completion of Darksiders II, but before putting the studio and/or IP up for sale.

Yuke's is independent, its stock isn't doing any worse than many other stock-offering Japanese companies, and they're diversified. Other Japanese companies also enjoy working with Yuke's because they deliver on-time, if not massively AAA titles. I'd be surprised if this was more than a speedbump, in the long term.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 04:33:55 PM
This will be like the jump from SR1 -> SR2
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
4 SR games in one gen, 1 GTA game and two expansions. lol
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: demi on June 20, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
4 good games and 1 bad game with 2 expansions
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: chronovore on June 20, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
4 SR games in one gen, 1 GTA game and two expansions. lol

GTA V will be this gen. Just sayin' -- it's not like I'm hopeful or anything.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 07:10:21 PM
4 SR games and 2 GTA games. Even after that, it's pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Bebpo on June 20, 2012, 07:27:15 PM
Same city :(

I know SR1->SR2 but that's because SR1 was mediocre in the first place, so SR2 had room to make it AWESOME.  SR3 is already good, I wonder if they can really add/change enough to make it feel fresh and not just like a $60 DLC mission that takes 10 hours to clear.  The DLC missions were kind of so-so and I would not want 10 hours of them.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 20, 2012, 07:38:08 PM
SR3 is good but it's not because of the map, it's because of the craziness of the game/missions and freedom you get.  They can ABSOLUTELY improve the setting and make it more distinct and flavorful, the city was one of my few gripes about the game.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 20, 2012, 07:54:42 PM
Hopefully they make the middle not suck like it did in 3.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Same city :(

I know SR1->SR2 but that's because SR1 was mediocre in the first place, so SR2 had room to make it AWESOME.  SR3 is already good, I wonder if they can really add/change enough to make it feel fresh and not just like a $60 DLC mission that takes 10 hours to clear.  The DLC missions were kind of so-so and I would not want 10 hours of them.

SR3 is a major step back from SR2 in terms of locales, hidden shit, easter eggs, side quests, and things to do and most of is BECAUSE of the map and SR1 -> SR2.

And for what it's worth, SR2's Stilwater feels completely different from SR1's Stilwater.

Also, SR1 is NOT MEDIOCRE.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 20, 2012, 10:42:50 PM
Jeff from Giantbomb had the right idea. They should name this "The Next Great Sequel in the Saints Row Franchise."
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 11:20:23 PM
No. Saints Row 4 Lyfe.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2012, 11:26:44 PM
This game was oddly rushed based on interviews like Tom Chick's and building the new engine didn't allow them to go all out. Plus they were working on the Red Faction games at the same time, now they can just focus in on adding all sorts of awesome. They have the engine in place, the city is generally built already and they can add onto/rework it like Stilwater was for 2, all the other improvements to the gameplay are in place.

I mean there are all sorts of things like hospitals, arenas, casinos, warehouses, etc. already around the map that aren't used. Everything downtown. SR2 took you into non-cribs like the museum, hospital, the rec center, etc. for missions. In SR3 you basically only drive by any of this, maybe start/end a mission outside one.

I assume most of the DLC is actually cut content. (Intentionally so or not.)
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2012, 11:31:01 PM
You can look back on Saints Row 1 and trash it, but in 2006 it was amazing.

They can ABSOLUTELY improve the setting and make it more distinct and flavorful, the city was one of my few gripes about the game.

Agreed 100%, it's part of the reason I've not gone back for a lot of stuff like finding cars & assasinations because everything looks the same unless you're in the airport or army base. Steelport appears to be about 90% cut + paste neighbourhoods. Even if it's not, the areas aren't recognizable enough at first glance.

That isn't at all a problem in the first two games. I could probably draw a Stillwater map and pick out the theme of each area - you know where the trailer park is, the suburbs, downtown shopping, the beach, the airport, chinatown, the docks, industrial area, the slum where you start out, the sporting stadium etc... All you needed to to was look at your surroundings and you knew where you were and where you had to go.
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 12:13:34 AM
SR1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> GTA4
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 21, 2012, 02:10:08 AM
SR1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> GTA4

That's like the world's biggest non-statement, for fucks sakes a bag of wet farts >>>>>>>>>> GTA4
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:11:26 AM
SR1 is really underrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cGyOp026TA
Title: Re: Now a sequel to Saints Row: The Third- Enter The Dominatrix
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 21, 2012, 02:14:26 AM
You can look back on Saints Row 1 and trash it, but in 2006 it was amazing.


Was it? They really didn't have the tone down back then. It was hardly funny or over the top, but instead filled with pretty shitty wanabe gangster story shit with some pretty terrible cutscenes. It was pretty much the definition of some old white folks trying to get "it". Oh and having to do their terrible side missions was not fun and felt like lame padding.

Then comes SR2 which is a pretty great game and in some ways better then even 3.

Oh and GTAIV was great and Gay Tony was pretty much better then any other open world game this gen.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 21, 2012, 02:21:22 AM
Was it? They really didn't have the tone down back then. It was hardly funny or over the top, but instead filled with pretty shitty wanabe gangster story shit with some pretty terrible cutscenes. It was pretty much the definition of some old white folks trying to get "it". Oh and having to do their terrible side missions was not fun and felt like lame padding.

It was a great game though, regardless of what your opinion of the story and characters are. Like it's any worse than "HEY COUSIN LETS LOOK AT SOME TITTIES"

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Then comes SR2 which is a pretty great game and in some ways better then even 3.

Won't argue with that.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:22:09 AM
SR1 had plenty of funny moments. Also, the story was actually pretty solid and refreshing from the rest of the genre, especially the ending. The customization, humor, controls, and features put it over ps2 era GTA's and GTAIV came out and SR1 pissed on it.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:25:38 AM
terrible cutscenes.

terrible cutscenes.

terrible cutscenes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYlyx_P52w
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 21, 2012, 02:27:36 AM
SR1 had plenty of funny moments. Also, the story was actually pretty solid and refreshing from the rest of the genre, especially the ending. The customization, humor, controls, and features put it over ps2 era GTA's and GTAIV came out and SR1 pissed on it.

Even if you take out the story, the rest of it was leaps and bounds ahead of any other open world game at the time. And it was still more fun than GTA IV once it came out.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:28:54 AM
how can anyone be a johnny gat fan and hate on SR1? Johnny barely does anything in 2 cuz he's hurt and in 3 he's dead.
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Post by: cool breeze on June 21, 2012, 02:32:10 AM
You can look back on Saints Row 1 and trash it, but in 2006 it was amazing.

yeah, this past weekend I found the old demo DVD.  Derailing a train with an RPG was mind blowing back then.  I remember car radios being special because they stayed on after you left the car.  There were a ton of subtle bits that were amazing compared to San Andreas, even if it's all about the tech.  GTA4 similarly had these improvements and more, but Saint's Row was the first 'next gen' GTA.

And it had multiplayer.  I tried it once and it was a "holla holla get dolla" experience.  Don't think it was free roam, just regular death match on a city block or something.
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Post by: chronovore on June 21, 2012, 04:08:49 AM
There was pretty standard deathmatch (Chainz) and team deathmatch, and a protect/kill the VIP mode, but the real joy was the "bling my ride" mode, where you had to do battle for car upgrades, then drive the blinged ride to a location to show it off. That mode was a lot of fun, and required serious teamwork.

Unfortunately SR1 multi was plagued with team-killers, particularly the VIP mode.
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Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2012, 05:11:16 AM
I only played about an hour of SR1 when it came out but it just seemed like a me too GTA clone with nicer graphics.  All thug and gangsta and wasn't really my thing.  Kind of soured me on the franchise and why I skipped SR2 and wasn't hyped for SR3 until I played it and it was awesome.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 21, 2012, 06:01:29 AM
When did you play SR1 though? Seems people who don't like SR1 fall into two camps - those who take all the gangsta/thug stuff too seriously and those who didn't play it when it was released. I think some of the appreciation of the game is lost if you're coming back to it after playing more technically advanced later gen games.

You should go back and try SR2 now Bebpo, it's probably better than 3 overall.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 21, 2012, 08:56:46 AM
terrible cutscenes.

terrible cutscenes.

terrible cutscenes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYlyx_P52w

Oh thats so funny. She's white and it's playing on conservative stereotypes.

I just didn't find anything funny about that game and I remember even their talk show radio thingy being a complete absence of humor. If anything the game felt like it was trying way too hard and laked any actual cleverness which you can find in a GTA game. Better gameplay? Yeah, but I found nothing else redeemable here. I never finished the story mode, because I found it extremely boring. Not a real argument, but I can't give a better reason and it's been far too long since I played the game to actually have details.

So what you will about GTAIV and it's pretty in love with itself story, but I sure found it to be a way better written and clever thing, at least outside of the main plot.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:00:03 PM
What do you think this genre is? All it EVER is, is playing on stereotypes, cliches, and genre tropes. Conservative? Where did you get that?

GTAIV writing is atrocious. Let's make the characters and location "realistic", but let's put them in the same "satirical" setting. Game goes from "I keeled people, smaggled people...END MY LIFE NOW" to "let's hunt down a gay guy on an online dating site and shoot him in the face in a restaurant" to TW@ CAFE. AHAHA. SO FUN-KNEE. So you have this shit sandwich of crappy serious writing, mixed up with crappy humor writing, mixed in with character who won't shut the fuck up. I start a mission, these characters go on for 5 fucking minutes. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
But the writing in GTA III and IV...

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I actually loved Vice City, but I assumed it was a parody of the genre...
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Then SA and IV got serious again.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on June 21, 2012, 02:05:46 PM
Vice City is the high point of the GTA series for me.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
But the writing in GTA III and IV...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I actually loved Vice City, but I assumed it was a parody of the genre...
[close]

Then SA and IV got serious again.

SA was serious? SA was hilarious!
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
Vice City is the high point of the GTA series for me.

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Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2012, 02:10:05 PM
Vice City is the high point of the GTA series for me.
yep, even though the map sucks
SA was serious? SA was hilarious!
But...  :omg black people...
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:10:30 PM
But the writing in GTA III and IV...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I actually loved Vice City, but I assumed it was a parody of the genre...
[close]

Then SA and IV got serious again.

SA was serious? SA was hilarious!

The entire part in Los Santos they're like MAN, DRUGS IS FUCKED UP MAN. And it's laid on pretttttty thick. But yeah, past Los Santos, SA strips its more serious flavor.

But I still don't like the writing. I think SA was the step towards the atrocious writing in IV.
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Post by: benjipwns on June 21, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
The entire part in Los Santos they're like MAN, DRUGS IS FUCKED UP MAN. And it's laid on pretttttty thick. But yeah, past Los Santos, SA strips its more serious flavor.

But I still don't like the writing. I think SA was the step towards the atrocious writing in IV.
Awww you had to ruin my racism.

Yeah I didn't like the Los Santos part. Mostly tedious.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
I have never been able to fully replay SA.
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Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
When did you play SR1 though? Seems people who don't like SR1 fall into two camps - those who take all the gangsta/thug stuff too seriously and those who didn't play it when it was released. I think some of the appreciation of the game is lost if you're coming back to it after playing more technically advanced later gen games.

You should go back and try SR2 now Bebpo, it's probably better than 3 overall.

I played SR1 when it first came out.  The thing is I don't like and have never liked GTA.  I like driving around the sandbox cities and exploring, but that's about it.  Don't like the thug/criminal settings, don't like the missions.  So I gave SR1 a chance but it just felt like "next-gen GTA (better controls, better graphics, online play)" and I bailed early on.

I like SR3 (and would probably like SR2) because it's nothing like GTA anymore.  It's a crazy goofy sandbox action game.
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Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2012, 11:24:37 AM
Bebpo, you would mostly like SR2's story, as it's 75% of the way to SR3's madness. There are some fairly crazy missions, but there are also some brutal moments which are given with a straight face. It's thematically inconsistent.

The gameplay though, overall, is more varied and madcap than SR3. It's not as pretty, but the areas of Stillwater are more apt to give a strong sense of place and are more able to orient the player than the more homogenized city of Steelport.

I also agree with Himumu that San Andreas starts off serious, and is a step in the Housers' direction of "let's be auteurs" than Vice City or GTA III.
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Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2012, 11:54:06 AM
yeah, I liked the way Jeff from Giantbomb sorta defined it as SR3 is Johnny Gat all the time, where in SR2 the main character is the straight man grounding the antics.

also the other day I was playing volition's punisher game and the combat is really similar to SR2/3.  Same way you take hostages, can toss them around or instantly kill them.
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Post by: Himu on June 22, 2012, 12:12:29 PM
Bebpo, you would mostly like SR2's story, as it's 75% of the way to SR3's madness. There are some fairly crazy missions, but there are also some brutal moments which are given with a straight face. It's thematically inconsistent.


I disagree. I like that there are serious moments with the crazy. It makes the story have more impact. SR3 is completely lacking in serious moments aside from bad ending. What I like about SR is that it's zany and crazy and sometimes what the fuck, but the games still have great characters and can completely pull off more serious parts. Is it really thematically inconsistent for one of your crew to get killed only to fire back with fire?

I prefer SR2 boss. SR3 boss is a pussy in comparison.