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Title: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:51:42 AM
Rumors are flying, MS is gonna announce something today, maybe an official MS tablet of some sort.  TechCrunch is saying it's an MS/B&N tablet with XBL streaming:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/17/ms-la/
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: archnemesis on June 18, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
Is the Nook still popular over there?
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:59:31 AM
the ereader is fairly popular (even though i own a kindle i think the nook reader has a better design), dunno about the nook color tablet thing - i think the kindle fire has swallowed up the 7" tablet market for the time being
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2012, 09:06:52 AM
GT dude is invited
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
Well, Dr. Feelbad's First Law of Technology states that as soon I buy a piece of hardware, within the week something else will get announced or released which causes me to have second thoughts about that purchase. And I just bought an iPad. Therefore, the odds that this is going to be something pretty awesome have increased.
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 12:28:49 PM
I hate rumors. Just announce this already.
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: Brehvolution on June 18, 2012, 12:36:04 PM
Are you under NDA, MCD?

Spill it!
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
Sadly, I shill for MS for free.
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/barnes-and-noble-microsoft-event/

  B&N told us that "we are not a part of their announcement today."

Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:16:49 PM
"Today we want to add another piece to that Windows 8 story."

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-mystery-event-unveiled
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
Developers? Developers?! Developers.
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:19:56 PM
"Our most successful hardware has been the Xbox."
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
"We see that combination working in our PC ecosystem"
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:20:58 PM
No mention of the Zune...

:lol
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:21:52 PM
"We wanted to give Windows 8 it's own hardware."
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
Steve has a tablet in his hand...
Title: Re: MS Barnes and Noble Xbox Tablet Thing?
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:23:39 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/microsofttablet0078.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 07:24:29 PM
Windows 8 = Tablet trash OS confirmed, sticking with 7.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:25:40 PM
Joe Molotov

Destroyed
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
23:26 Owen Williams He just grabbed another tablet
23:26 Owen Williams Woah, the tablet didn't work...

More like MCD destroyed. :smug
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:27:40 PM
Tablets break, you know?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2012, 07:28:12 PM
Wrong forum
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:28:29 PM
(http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/publishingimages/new/gallery_4_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 07:28:44 PM
I'm just messing with ya. ;)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
It's OK. I'm used to rough treatment thanks to MS.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:31:05 PM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6300/verge-lb-910.jpg)

(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6303/verge-lb-921.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
What is that tactile keyboard? The one on stage is capacitive
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:31:54 PM
Device will even run offic, full windows desktop, nothing held back here folks
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:32:48 PM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6305/verge-lb-930.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gs63d.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:33:55 PM
(http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/publishingimages/new/gallery_2_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/capture8exd4.png)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 07:35:02 PM
9.3mm thin
1.5 lbs
Magnesium case
10.6 gorilla glass screen
Full sized USB 2.0 port
Built in stand
Dual wifi antennas
Multitouch cover/keyboard with built in trackpad
comes with Office
Two versions, one for WinRT and one for full Win8
One With Nvidia chip, one with Intel


Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:38:32 PM
(http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/publishingimages/new/about1.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:39:27 PM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6325/verge-lb-1023.jpg)

(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6328/verge-lb-1034.jpg)

Works with a stylus, digital ink
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 18, 2012, 07:40:23 PM
Oh look, PCs with no keyboard and less hard drive space than my shitty old laptop from like seven years ago, awesome! I guess since everyone else is in on the tablet market MS might as well make an attempt too but I really could not care less.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:41:45 PM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6333/verge-lb-1046.jpg)

desktop mode.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:42:41 PM
(http://images.scribblelive.com/2012/6/18/d37c5669-3865-4b0d-93b5-420d0dbb7b0e.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/default.aspx
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
haha, yeah, this is totally in the wrong forum so far
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:46:28 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39013547&postcount=1562
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 07:47:23 PM
these things are gonna be so goddamned expensive
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:48:41 PM
You can afford an iPad and some shoddy Android tablet, this is nothing.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6355/verge-lb-1169.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2012, 07:50:51 PM
Is there a market for this?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
looks cool, will probably pick one up at some point
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:52:21 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/microsoft-surface-6.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/microsoft-surface-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 07:52:58 PM
i took the shoddy android tablet back for the ipad, i didn't keep it :lol

it's rare i have that kind of money, i fell into a gig opening and closing the property pool in april and may and got 1.5 months free rent out of it

i still have poor people guilt over blowing almost all of it on that ipad :lol
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Takao on June 18, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
The non-tard version is going to be so expensive. But I want one :(
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:53:44 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/microsofttablet0177.jpg)

(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6363/verge-lb-1206.jpg)

This is so Nokia.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2012, 07:54:02 PM
shits going to be 700 or 800 minimum.  also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 07:54:35 PM
maybe if i sell the ipad i can afford half of the good one
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2012, 07:54:41 PM
 :zzz
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 18, 2012, 07:54:52 PM
Looks like i'm buying a tablet now :D
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 18, 2012, 07:55:57 PM
This hardware looks pretty sick. Looks like they're showing all the OEMs how it's done.

I'd be real interested in the Intel one.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:56:38 PM
shits going to be 700 or 800 minimum.  also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.
They can always upgrade it later with minimum stuff (USB3, Retina display....etc).
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 07:57:35 PM
i need a dedicated Skulls of the Shogun touch device
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
Availability will be with Windows 8 launch for Win RT - 3 months later for Pro.

No Pricing.

(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6374/verge-lb-1279.jpg)

...And it's over.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
Quote
Surface for WIndows RT coming in 32GB and 64GB models. Priced "like comparable tablets based on ARM."

$500 minimum

Quote
Pro coming in 64GB and 128GB models, will be priced on par with Ultrabook-class PCs.


$900 minimum


welp

Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
so this is a full laptop that looks/feels like a tablet?

that could be pretty nice if you can run traditional windows applications/games on it
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:59:34 PM
Now excuse me, I need to fap to this before heading to work.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2012, 07:59:34 PM
the RT version will probably be around the ipad's pricing.  pretty cool, but I just don't like the windows 8 experience.  also, wonder what sort of app support it'd get.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Takao on June 18, 2012, 08:00:05 PM
shits going to be 700 or 800 minimum.  also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.
They can always upgrade it later with minimum stuff (USB3, Retina display....etc).

The non-tard version already has USB3 though.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:00:42 PM
more than android tablets are getting
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:01:35 PM
I wouldn't worry about apps. Even Windows Phone got them.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
Well right, I'd imagine considering its a first party product with the same screen rez's/input devices, the app support would be pretty good.  Obviously not as great as the ipads, but still pretty good.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:04:10 PM
shits going to be 700 or 800 minimum.  also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.
They can always upgrade it later with minimum stuff (USB3, Retina display....etc).

The non-tard version already has USB3 though.
You are right, my bad.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
I'm sure MS will have RT versions of just about all their normal desktop programs, so there's that

and i'm sure you can be angry birdin' like a motherfucker on it
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2012, 08:05:52 PM
I wanna be able to jailbreak it  :P
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
Windows RT will come with free MS Office 2015 installed (Desktop, not apps) BTW.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
how does stuff like file transfer, etc. work for WinRT? Aside from the ARM processor and apps, is it basically close to a normal PC?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:10:01 PM
It comes with the classic desktop but no old x86 software works on it. So all your old software like say, Winzip, need to be ported first.

I haven't seen it in action because you can't beta test it with no ARM hardware plus Windows RT can't be reformatted in the old fashioned way. It's closer to an iPad just with the Desktop tacked on.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Takao on June 18, 2012, 08:11:18 PM
Windows RT will come with free MS Office 2015 installed (Desktop, not apps) BTW.

2015?! So this is 2 years away?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:12:54 PM
It comes with the classic desktop but no old x86 software works on it. So all your old software like say, Winzip, need to be ported first.

But UI and structure-wise, it is closer to a PC than a tablet in function?

I haven't seen it in action because you can't beta test it with no ARM hardware plus Windows RT can't be reformatted in the old fashioned way. It's closer to an iPad just with the Desktop tacked on.

ah, i see.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:13:21 PM
Meant 2013. Forgot that they changed the code name to it.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:19:58 PM
More about this for you, Dr:

Quote
Windows 8 vs. Windows RT
 
If you don’t need any Windows 8 Pro features, you’re left to choose between Windows 8 (for Intel-compatible PCs) and Windows RT (for ARM-based devices). Most people will probably choose between various PCs and devices since the feature sets of the two software products are so similar. But there are some important factors to consider before you start eyeballing new hardware. Key among them:
 
You cannot upgrade to Windows RT. If you wish to perform an in-place upgrade or migration from an existing PC running Windows 7 Starter, Home Basic, or Home Premium, you will need Windows 8 (or Windows 8 Pro).
 
Windows RT cannot run “legacy” Windows desktop software. And that’s going to be a major blocker for many people. However, don’t confuse what this means: Windows RT does include the desktop environment along with all of the built-in Windows 8 desktop software like Windows Explorer and Task Manager. (And the bundled Office 15 applications, noted below, are Windows desktop applications.) What you can’t do with Windows RT is run x86/x64-based applications. And there are a ton of them out there.
 
Windows RT does not include two Windows 8 features. The desktop-based Windows Media Player application and the Storage Spaces feature are not available in Windows RT.
 
On the flipside, Windows RT does include some advantages over Windows 8. These include:
 
Office 15. Windows RT ships with bundled versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote 15. Windows 8 users will need to buy these products, or use the Office Web Apps, to get equivalent Office functionality.

Device encryption. Windows RT ships with full device encryption, which can protect the data on the device if the drive is removed or otherwise accessed externally. Windows 8 users would need to upgrade to Windows 8 Pro or purchased a third party encryption solution to acquire this functionality.
 
Sometime in the future, we’ll be able to examine and compare Windows 8 PCs and Windows RT devices, which should further muddy the waters. But armed with this information, many people will be able to make their choice right now. If you’ve struggled with Microsoft’s insane product editions line-ups during the Windows Vista and Windows 7 years, this is nothing but good news.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/pick-windows-8-product-edition-142857
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
ok, thanks
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Oh look, PCs with no keyboard and less hard drive space than my shitty old laptop from like seven years ago, awesome! I guess since everyone else is in on the tablet market MS might as well make an attempt too but I really could not care less.

the whole point is that they're closing the gap between tablet and computer than ever before. something like this isn't for people like us.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:22:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PUjoV.jpg)

(http://i.minus.com/ioqUhUaOEux1D.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 08:22:39 PM
maybe if i sell the ipad i can afford half of the good one

Then you can take the MS tablet back and get an iPad 4.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:26:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzu3HM2CIo
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 08:28:38 PM
maybe if i sell the ipad i can afford half of the good one

Then you can take the MS tablet back and get an iPad 4.

no, the proper sequence is ms tablet -> android tablet -> ipad 4

i keep the best buy open box economy thriving
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2012, 08:34:26 PM
I still don't own a tablet and don't really understand the appeal of one.  What makes this one better than the ipad? 
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
Windows 8 = Windows 7 desktop + tablet interface and apps.

In other words, it's not a toy. You can actually play Hentai games with this.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 18, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
Windows 8 = Windows 7 desktop + tablet interface and apps.

In other words, it's not a toy. You can actually play Hentai games with this.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:44:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VmwGc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fVa1i.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ewEVl.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
It really is shockingly desirable for a 1st-gen MS product. Although I assume its gestation was very long and troubled (Courier etc).
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Timber on June 18, 2012, 08:46:44 PM
We should all become neo-luddites.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 08:51:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Pb3NN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ifndy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SH2Ot.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 08:52:10 PM
We should all become neo-luddites.

good luck writing THAT manifesto
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 18, 2012, 08:53:21 PM
> Bebpo
> owns a PS Vita and two 3DSes
> can't understand why anyone would want a tablet
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
a full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen, what could you possibly use that for
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 18, 2012, 08:57:45 PM
Quote
Windows RT cannot run “legacy” Windows desktop software

<blackgrape>Send it a wreath, send it TWO!</blackgrape>

Quote
a full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen

i'd be on this like a cumbrian on dole but it really does swing on what Windows distinguished mentally-challenged can do. If it runs -most-/all my existing PC software then i'm on board, if it's OH looks like Windows but... you know... then who the fuck cares?

Will upgrade from the DM1Z (or not...as the case maybe)

Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 18, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
nobody here is excited about Windows RTard edition :wag
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 18, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 09:02:03 PM
Windows RT is good enough for my family. At least I will no longer have to do constant software maintenance on their shit.

Then again they all have an iPad already.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 09:02:10 PM
Well, it does come with Office, that's a leg up on most tablets
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 18, 2012, 09:02:14 PM
Yes the Pro one will run all Intel-based desktop software. It's a bit beefier (900 grams vs 600 grams for the RT one).
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 18, 2012, 09:02:48 PM
Yes the Pro one will run all Intel-based desktop software. It's a bit beefier (900 grams vs 600 grams for the RT one).

K, selling plasma now
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 18, 2012, 09:03:20 PM
The Pro one is basically a MacBook Air that's also a tablet, and runs full-function Windows. It will run Steam and most games at like 25 fps on medium-low settings.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 18, 2012, 09:03:32 PM
Quote
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

Hudson : "Somebody said "tablet", she thought they said "steam tablet" and signed up."
Vasquez : "F*ck no man...."
Quote
Yes the Pro one will run all Intel-based desktop software. It's a bit beefier (900 grams vs 600 grams for the RT one).

so then it comes down to performance vs netbooks/ultras/etc and , of course, price...

Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 09:03:40 PM
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

Pro version is win8 full desktop, so that will
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
RT version might as well be called Dirtperson Edition
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
Who needs Steam when we have Skulls of the Shogun?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2012, 09:06:33 PM
this is pretty boner. Even Apple isn't bridging their tablets with their computers like this. This is a big fucking bold step for MS. But will it sell? Will it be another Zune?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 09:07:20 PM
maybe you can mull that question over in the shower
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
maybe you can mull that question over in the shower

Just don't drop the soap...oh wait.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 09:11:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRU4QhedkD0
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2012, 09:23:39 PM
a full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen, what could you possibly use that for

Is it a full pc (like a laptop) though?

Can I go to indiegames.com and download some new game.exe and install and run it?  Can I install CCCP codec pack, acquire some anime eps and watch them?  Can I boot up steam and play my games?  Throw on MAME and play shmups?  Can I use a mouse along with the external keyboard?  Can I use an external HDD?

If the answer is yes to the above and it is really a windows 7 laptop in thin form, then I'll totally buy it because that's what I want.  If it's some closed system (BUY APPS) bs like iOS then it's not for me.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
Yes the Pro one will run all Intel-based desktop software. It's a bit beefier (900 grams vs 600 grams for the RT one).

Ok, very well may buy this then.  I could use a portable pc.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 18, 2012, 09:25:41 PM
a full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen, what could you possibly use that for

Is it a full pc (like a laptop) though?

Can I go to indiegames.com and download some new game.exe and install and run it?  Can I install CCCP codec pack, acquire some anime eps and watch them?  Can I boot up steam and play my games?  Throw on MAME and play shmups?  Can I use a mouse along with the external keyboard?  Can I use an external HDD?

If the answer is yes to the above and it is really a windows 7 laptop in thin form, then I'll totally buy it because that's what I want.  If it's some closed system (BUY APPS) bs like iOS then it's not for me.

The Pro version has full on win8 and an i5 intel cpu so yes to everything.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 09:29:02 PM
BIG question is: will this run XBLA?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 18, 2012, 09:30:42 PM
The fascinating thing is the cover, which can act as a keyboard. The trouble with tablets is that you have no proper keyboard... only on-screen. The trouble with the cover as a keyboard is that it has shit feedback... but that's no different from what you already have, except with the cover as a keyboard you won't have the keyboard taking up space on the screen.

But it makes me wonder, if the keyboard is basically touch-only and therefore shit, will you bother to even use it? You can basically ignore that functionality and use it as a cover only...

I dunno.

There are two keyboards one that is a flat touch screen thing, and a real thin keyboard thing with tactile feedback.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
Or you can just plug your USB Keyboard.

Crazy thought, I know.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 09:37:44 PM
You do know they make keyboards in all shapes and sizes, right
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 09:39:24 PM
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=fold+keyboard
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 18, 2012, 09:39:41 PM
Asspie spergs out over inane and inconsequential details, news at 11
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 09:40:52 PM
Win8/Metro does indeed make iOS look cluttered.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Win8/Metro does indeed make iOS look cluttered.
You better see this then:

http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/17/which-looks-better-a-comparison-between-popular-apps-on-ios-and-windows-phone/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: naff on June 18, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
Pro version sounds hot. A tablet with an i5 processor running a full windows OS :drool I could see my work being interested in the pro version, at least I'd be down for using it. Would be better than lugging around my lame ass vostro.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 18, 2012, 09:46:57 PM
Holy mac thing damage control in that gaf thread :lol
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 09:57:51 PM
Win8/Metro does indeed make iOS look cluttered.
You better see this then:

http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/17/which-looks-better-a-comparison-between-popular-apps-on-ios-and-windows-phone/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yeah, saw that on FB yesterday, thanks. More striking on a bigger screen and in motion of course. That cocktail demo, ferrinstance.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 18, 2012, 10:05:47 PM
the worst part of this was the "3 months after Windows 8 GA" for the Pro version  :maf
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2012, 10:17:01 PM
what is the screen res?

Those keyboards aren't portable and don't attach to the tablet...

This tablet has Bluetooth and a USB port
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
they said full HD, true widescreen so 1080p I guess
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2012, 10:32:12 PM
On something awful forum they are saying 1366x768
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2012, 10:38:19 PM
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2012, 10:38:44 PM
the RTard edition (arm) is 1366x768

the pro edition (core i5) i BELIEVE is 1920x1080
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 18, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

but will it run the actual games?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 18, 2012, 10:39:38 PM
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

but will it run the actual games?

yes, win8 desktop is fully compatible with win7

the core i5 ulv ivy bridge has an hd4000, half of you sad fux play on macbook airs and this will be as fast as a modern macbook air

(but POSSIBLY with a 1080p display :teehee)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2012, 10:41:13 PM
the RTard edition (arm) is 1366x768

the pro edition (core i5) i BELIEVE is 1920x1080

Some journalist tweeted that when he tried to get to the resolution settings screen on the pro, they took it away from him.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 18, 2012, 11:06:40 PM
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?

yes, the pro model.

but will it run the actual games?

yes, win8 desktop is fully compatible with win7

the core i5 ulv ivy bridge has an hd4000, half of you sad fux play on macbook airs and this will be as fast as a modern macbook air

(but POSSIBLY with a 1080p display :teehee)

o missed that its a core i5.  I actually might get this.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2012, 11:15:31 PM
so it is a PC inside a tablet body?

that's pretty cool.  if it runs steam, what types of games can you get running on it? any chance of Civ 4?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
so it is a PC inside a tablet body?

that's pretty cool.  if it runs steam, what types of games can you get running on it? any chance of Civ 4?
Quote
Eric Neustadter, from Xbox Live Operations, tweeted colloquially that it could run Civ IV and V, unlike the iPad, and that it will be "the greatest Civilization-playing device known to mankind."
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2012, 11:24:29 PM
that's amazingly specific haha
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2012, 11:27:05 PM
http://www.displaywars.com/9,7-inch-4x3-vs-10,6-inch-16x9

Screen dimension compared to iPad.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Pringo on June 18, 2012, 11:29:45 PM
Just checked out the stuff from this conference and I'm kind of surprised that this actually looks like a fairly compelling product. Maybe I shouldn't be as MS generally seems to make solid hardware, it's just an issue when they do it too little too late (ex. the Zune line). The keyboard/case idea is pretty ingenious. Although, I am still kind of hesitant regarding the Intel version running vanilla Windows 8. Classic software built for desktop Windows is always going to be shitty with a touch interface and I realize there's the stand and keyboard but why not just buy an ultrabook instead if you're going to do that? I guess it's another attempt at the hybrid tablet/notebook thing but I'm still not really convinced yet that it's a good idea.

Also I like that MS is really going after the areas where the iPad is fairly weak. Physical keyboard and pen input both look cool. If the tablet can detect sensitivity levels for the pen and that can be used for programs like Photoshop and other art software that in itself would be pretty killer.

And someone should really move this thread to the OT.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2012, 11:30:36 PM
I  honestly don't have any real use for this device that isn't already covered by my ipad and laptop but depending on the price I might still pick one up.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 11:41:39 PM
Smart Glass makes a bit more sense eh
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 18, 2012, 11:42:03 PM
I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Huff on June 18, 2012, 11:51:41 PM
I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

Same. little nervous about the price though
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Eh, why?  They really aren't that similar of devices other than a touch screen.  Closest thing is a Transformer.  The distinguished mentally-challenged version may compare to an iPad, but at that point it depends on what you want more: app variations or user interface.  And even then, some of the metro design choices really irk me.

The Pro version is a super-ultrabook basically.  With that amount of power, I would probably always keep the keyboard attached, because FUCK touchscreen usage on a standard windows interface (aka not metro).

So basically:

iPad:Surface RT

MBA:Surface Pro

So they really do feel like two separate products with a much more cohesive design.

Eh I don't know.  I wanna play with one of these things.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 18, 2012, 11:56:52 PM
I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

Same. little nervous about the price though

I'm also concerned about how well they might support this thing.  With the Zune HD, they pretty much dropped the thing and ran after a couple of months.  At least with Apple, you know they will stick around for a while.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 19, 2012, 01:25:15 AM
Funny how this thread is bigger and better received than any Windows 8 thread at the hot dog bar.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: chronovore on June 19, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6325/verge-lb-1023.jpg)

(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/6328/verge-lb-1034.jpg)

Works with a stylus, digital ink

Actually, that's just a normal pen.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 19, 2012, 01:38:22 AM
I was quoting neowin there.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 19, 2012, 01:42:38 AM
(http://p.twimg.com/Avulo8yCMAE6usf.jpg)

unf unf unf

this is totally happening
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 19, 2012, 02:10:38 AM
FREE SURFACES FOR ALL!
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 19, 2012, 03:47:00 AM
Funny how this thread is bigger and better received than any Windows 8 thread at the hot dog bar.

New OS = booooooring

New tech = why hello thar
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 19, 2012, 04:07:38 AM
one of the complaints i've seen repeatedly seems to be that there IS a fully functioning OS therefore that is bad

I guess i see what people are saying but isn't that a good thing long term?

the complaint seems to be comping with "installing drivers and stuff and virus and all that! Who needs another PC!? I'll stick with ipad! um..."
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 19, 2012, 05:20:12 AM
This thing is going to cost a ridiculous amount of money.

And I want it.

Only problem is the Football Manager devs posted on twitter this morning that they have no idea how they'll run it on Surface since it wont have enough ram or hard drive space :(
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 19, 2012, 05:42:17 AM
This thing is going to cost a ridiculous amount of money.

And I want it.

Only problem is the Football Manager devs posted on twitter this morning that they have no idea how they'll run it on Surface since it wont have enough ram or hard drive space :(

Well, a USB flash drive should take care of the latter...
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 19, 2012, 06:00:51 AM
True. Can't get around the RAM issue though.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: frod on June 19, 2012, 06:05:08 AM
How much RAM does it have then?  ???
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2012, 06:30:55 AM
I'm glad I waited on buying an iPad.

Same. little nervous about the price though

I'm also concerned about how well they might support this thing.  With the Zune HD, they pretty much dropped the thing and ran after a couple of months.  At least with Apple, you know they will stick around for a while.

They ran with Zune for like 4-5 years, 3 hardware iterations, before calling it quits. And this is just Windows 8 in nice hardware, they aren't dropping windows 8.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MrSingh on June 19, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
Pro version here I cum! ... once I have a job that is!
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: tiesto on June 19, 2012, 08:58:22 AM
Sounds really cool and much more interesting than an iPad. Would be great for a portable Steam platform... but I hope MS doesn't drop it like the Zune HD (another great piece of tech).
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 19, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
portable all in one emu device plus ability to play vertical games easily is making me need to know the price (even though the DM1Z can do all that already lol)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: maxy on June 19, 2012, 10:04:50 AM
It runs full blown Windows.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 19, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Are the touch cover and type cover two separate devices, or two sides of the same cover (think it's the former but nowhere has explicitly stated it).
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Diunx on June 19, 2012, 10:36:19 AM
Windows 8? pass faster than the speed of diarrhea.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: brob on June 19, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
hella sexy
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 19, 2012, 12:10:49 PM
It's Pro version vs. Tard Pack all over again.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
It runs full blown Windows.

My shitty little 11" netbook runs Windows 7 Ultimate.

it runs win8 *fast*. does your netbook boot windows in under 5 seconds?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 19, 2012, 02:06:02 PM
Is your Netbook cock touch friendly?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2012, 02:14:49 PM
Van likes it hot
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: bork on June 19, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
portable all in one emu device plus ability to play vertical games easily is making me need to know the price (even though the DM1Z can do all that already lol)

Sorry, haven't looked at the specs- this tablet will have USB ports?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 19, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
yes
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: chronovore on June 19, 2012, 04:57:52 PM
portable all in one emu device plus ability to play vertical games easily is making me need to know the price (even though the DM1Z can do all that already lol)

Sorry, haven't looked at the specs- this tablet will have USB ports?

One of the articles said two, full-sized USB ports. That's neat-o.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 19, 2012, 08:01:25 PM
And the Pro version is USB 3.0 :drool
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 19, 2012, 08:10:41 PM
yeah, USB means we should be on for wired/wireless with dongle Xbox controllers

again - i might just DM1Z it but if i could have this with enough umph to run up to PS2 emu ...
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 19, 2012, 08:12:02 PM
ah, the quest for the mystical emulate-everything box continues

Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 19, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
ah, the quest for the mystical emulate-everything box continues

well, it's a never ending target but an ipad form factor emu tablet that could cover all the way up to PS2 would be of epic.

At the moment, a hacked vita might be the more sexy but ... them pirates are being lazy!
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 19, 2012, 09:04:53 PM
Quick, name a PS2 game you played recently for more than 15 mins
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 19, 2012, 09:15:53 PM
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Quick, name a PS2 game you played recently for more than 15 mins

Ibara, Mushihimesama and Dragon Quest 8 (last one emulated ;) )

though in the last week the Profeel monitor died and has since been marched off to the big tip in the sky and i have no plans to replace it. So i can see PS2 dropping off - Ibara i gave a run out because i'm going to sell it soon, Mushihimesama because i haven't bothered with the X360 version and wanted to revisit and DQ8 because it's one of those games i converted over and wanted to test out.

I agree with your point though - most of the games on PS2 are dead and won't be revisited. If i don't have time to play, say, Dragon's Dogma why on earth would i make time to play - say - Rule of Rose?

Hence why Emulation of PS2 is a god send. Load up Alcohol120%, insert disk, burninate to HDD, sell game. If i ever win the lottery and want to go back and play some of these games i can emulate them (within reason, some wont work some will...) and if we ever get to a handheld that can run them then they are there on hand + i'll have some cash from their sale.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 19, 2012, 09:32:52 PM
And in the meantime....let's light a giant bonfire of money and buy some SCHUWEET new hardware!
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 19, 2012, 09:51:27 PM
And in the meantime....let's light a giant bonfire of money and buy some SCHUWEET new hardware!

well, i'm totally smoking the pipe of dreams here. The fantasy is that i buy a new monster desktop and a pant bulging surface.

The REALITY is that i'll be using the DM1Z and shutting my c***mouth! lol.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 20, 2012, 06:30:45 PM
http://www.neowin.net/news/hands-on-windows-surface-rt

Quote
Microsoft just got done unveiling its best kept secret in years and we got a few minutes with the device and came away modestly impressed.
 
We got to play with the RT version of the tablet and it feels like it was carved from a rock. All around, it was sturdy, showed little flex in the casing, and was simply a rock solid piece of hardware.
 
A nice little touch is that if you attach a blue Touch Cover to the device, it will change the theme to match the cover. Additionally, the kickstand was magnificent and did not feel flimsy by any means.
 
Microsoft also went all out by dropping a little bit of water on to the tablet. As you might expect, the water balled up and rolled right off. Microsoft said that it will handle grubby fingers with ease and apparently even tested it with ketchup and mustard.
 
The touch cover felt good in the hands and typing was a good experience in general, firm, responsive keys mended nicely to your fingertips.
 
To be blunt, we have never felt a tablet as sturdy as this one and that includes the iPad. It is quite a masculine tablet with its chiseled edges and gunmetal covering and we walked away impressed, ready to buy.
 
Our time with the tablet was quite brief and we should note that until we get time to spend a few days with the device, we can't give it a proper review.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2012, 06:53:53 PM
dcharlie no way this thing runs pcx2
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MCD on June 20, 2012, 06:55:31 PM
PS2 emulator sux even on my rig.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 20, 2012, 08:05:43 PM
Quote
dcharlie no way this thing runs pcx2

well, my MBP2010 does a good stab at a fair number of games. Tekken 5 isn't going to run at anything beyond 22 or so FPS but for DQ8 ? Perfectly fine.

I guess the way to go is with an actual good laptop instead.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 20, 2012, 08:23:22 PM
or a PS2
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 20, 2012, 10:40:28 PM
Quote
or a PS2

the point is to have everything running from one portable machine that i cram everything onto, though it has occured to me that a -hacked- ps3 might be a good idea (though ignoring the "portable" angle)

Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 20, 2012, 10:51:11 PM
how much content is enough? you are like a vagina so enormous that no cock can ever satisfy it
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2012, 11:15:46 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 21, 2012, 12:53:36 AM
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how much content is enough? you are like a vagina so enormous that no cock can ever satisfy it

with gaming - why limit myself when it can all be had easily?
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 21, 2012, 03:45:15 AM
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i kind of picture dcharlie's gaming hobby as a desperate fat guy running around trying to sample everything at a buffet.  he takes two bites then runs over to the next dish where he has a bite and then heads to the next one, eventually passing out at his table with a plate filled with the same ol' mashed potatoes and roast beef he's had for years.  occasionally he drags an interesting dessert back to the table where he can properly enjoy it, but that is a rare event.

lol- about right - though two bites is probably pushing it.

truth is my game purchasing/playing has fell off a cliff in the last two years. Vita/3DS has been where the purchases have made and , whilst it looks like insanity, it's nowhere NEAR what it was. But yeah ... the analogy is pretty much spot on. Only things on a handheld really gets played.

Gone are the days where the wife and i would just stay up until 3-4am playing stuff - it's over. Time to "salad" it.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 21, 2012, 03:48:06 AM
just one more wafer thin tablet before i go thou-

(http://gifsoup.com/view/177487/mr-creosote-o.gif)
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 21, 2012, 04:25:16 AM
we are all soaking wet, nay, drowning, from the firehose that is the modern entertainment industry and will be 'til the day we die. Unlimited amounts of everything available for basically just wishing for it. The biggest challenge of the rest of my life is not FINDING the entertainment, or even finding the TIME for it - it's avoiding it altogether and actually doing something even marginally meaningful
Title: Re: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: naff on June 21, 2012, 09:27:14 AM
Quote
dcharlie no way this thing runs pcx2

well, my MBP2010 does a good stab at a fair number of games. Tekken 5 isn't going to run at anything beyond 22 or so FPS but for DQ8 ? Perfectly fine.

I guess the way to go is with an actual good laptop instead.

Like a retina display mbp. God Damn they're hot :drool
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 21, 2012, 05:49:40 PM
Quote
i kind of picture dcharlie's gaming hobby as a desperate fat guy running around trying to sample everything at a buffet.  he takes two bites then runs over to the next dish where he has a bite and then heads to the next one, eventually passing out at his table with a plate filled with the same ol' mashed potatoes and roast beef he's had for years.  occasionally he drags an interesting dessert back to the table where he can properly enjoy it, but that is a rare event.

lol- about right - though two bites is probably pushing it.

truth is my game purchasing/playing has fell off a cliff in the last two years. Vita/3DS has been where the purchases have made and , whilst it looks like insanity, it's nowhere NEAR what it was. But yeah ... the analogy is pretty much spot on. Only things on a handheld really gets played.

Gone are the days where the wife and i would just stay up until 3-4am playing stuff - it's over. Time to "salad" it.

What Do you play on 3ds? I wanna use mine
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 06:05:13 PM
i kind of picture dcharlie's gaming hobby as a desperate fat guy running around trying to sample everything at a buffet.  he takes two bites then runs over to the next dish where he has a bite and then heads to the next one, eventually passing out at his table with a plate filled with the same ol' mashed potatoes and roast beef he's had for years.  occasionally he drags an interesting dessert back to the table where he can properly enjoy it, but that is a rare event.

:rofl
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 21, 2012, 07:47:04 PM
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What Do you play on 3ds? I wanna use mine

I played a stupid amount of Ridge strangely enough but if i had to say "you should be playing...." about a 3DS game ? um... err.... i guess... um..... ;)

Priority is Kid Icarus
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: MrSingh on June 21, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
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What Do you play on 3ds? I wanna use mine

I played a stupid amount of Ridge strangely enough but if i had to say "you should be playing...." about a 3DS game ? um... err.... i guess... um..... ;)

Priority is Kid Icarus

Here's a suggestion. Come out and meet some of your buddies rather than playing shitty games on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 21, 2012, 09:43:32 PM
shots fired
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2012, 10:16:05 PM
Is Mr Singh really DCharle's dad??
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 21, 2012, 10:16:55 PM
the truth is so much more terrifying
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 21, 2012, 10:21:19 PM
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Here's a suggestion. Come out and meet some of your buddies rather than playing shitty games on the 3DS.

(i'm not playing 3DS games either) :-*

semi serious mode : i'm planning on getting out soon once we get Elly back on her feet, but until then i'm not going anywhere - that should be in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
Is Mr Singh really DCharle's dad??
the truth is so much more terrifying
:rofl
Title: Re: Microsoft Surface Tablet Announced
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 24, 2012, 05:23:32 AM
Looks hot to me, and I'm not really into tablets or laptops