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Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 21, 2012, 11:42:44 PM
Yay
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 21, 2012, 11:43:21 PM
what
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 21, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
i assume it's the same garbage screen resolution
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 21, 2012, 11:44:34 PM
No 2nd analog

I'll be waiting for my 3DS XL now <3
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 21, 2012, 11:45:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZjDI1.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/W4ruI.png)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2012, 11:45:34 PM
Can't wait to buy and resale this in a week. :rock
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 21, 2012, 11:45:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAhGR.jpg)

6-10 hour battery now

yep, totally regret buying the 3DS now.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 21, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
It looks like the Pandora or something. I don't care for that look at all.

The resolution's also going to look like cancer.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 21, 2012, 11:48:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAhGR.jpg)

6-10 hour battery now

yep, totally regret buying the 3DS now.

Yep.  reselling and buying this now.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 21, 2012, 11:49:04 PM
It looks like the Pandora or something. I don't care for that look at all.

The resolution's also going to look like cancer.

Vita is RIP
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
It looks like the Pandora or something. I don't care for that look at all.

The resolution's also going to look like cancer.

Vita is RIP

Good night, sweet OLED prince. :'(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 21, 2012, 11:50:27 PM
In order to keep the cost down, they won't be including an AC adapter. You'll have to buy it separately, but you can also use your adapter from your other Nintendo hardware.

How cheap can you be?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 21, 2012, 11:50:29 PM
Larger screens
Better battery life
No AC adapter included
July 28 for 18,900 yen
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 21, 2012, 11:53:37 PM
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No AC adapter included

wat

Also where's the second stick? :teehee
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2012, 11:54:08 PM
lol, no AC adapter, wat the fuk
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2012, 11:55:15 PM
6-10 hour battery now

yep, totally regret buying the 3DS now.

Seriously?

The battery life improvement is nice, but games are probably going to look even worse on this than the current 3DS.  If you care about graphics/IQ this looks like a downgrade.240p resolution at Vita screen size...^^;
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bachikarn on June 21, 2012, 11:55:23 PM
I understand why the resolution had to be the same, but it's going to make the games look worse. Extra battery is nice though.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2012, 11:57:26 PM
My ideal (and realistic) 3DS upgrade model would simply be:

-BETTER QUALITY SCREENS (better viewing angle, black level, etc...)
-2nd analog slider
-More comfortable form factor
-Better battery life

Maybe next year.  Maybe next year...
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 21, 2012, 11:58:01 PM
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No AC adapter included

wat

Also where's the second stick? :teehee

Like the AC adapter, sold separately.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 21, 2012, 11:59:36 PM
No second stick = FUCKING WORTHLESS
Of course that's also true just due to it being a modern day Nintendo product, but still, extra even more worthless I say. :tophat
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
6-10 hour battery now

yep, totally regret buying the 3DS now.

Seriously?

The battery life improvement is nice, but games are probably going to look even worse on this than the current 3DS.  If you care about graphics/IQ this looks like a downgrade.240p resolution at Vita screen size...^^;

I play all my DS games on my DSi XL.  Even at it's shite resolution, larger screen (potentially usable 3D?), a decent battery life, and more comfortable size are an improvement.  I mean, the 3DS d-pad is awful and awfully placed.  I need to use the analog slider for games I'd traditionally use a d-pad for. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 22, 2012, 12:06:23 AM
$199 US price point confirmed.

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:06:29 AM
$237.38 in US Dollars, wonder what the official US price will be.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:10:33 AM
No AC adapter included is *boggle* stupid.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 22, 2012, 12:11:08 AM
No AC adapter included is Nintendo.

Fixed.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 12:11:45 AM
$199 for NoA.

Assy res, no second analog, no adapter, but oh well. I'll trade my ugly 3DS for one of these.

August 19th is the date for US.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 12:12:49 AM
Need to wait for more info to digest before deciding... lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 22, 2012, 12:15:17 AM
I'd buy this if it was region free even if I think it looks ugly.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2012, 12:16:51 AM
North American colors:
(http://i.imgur.com/OuAds.jpg)


also, DLC for New Super Mario Bros 2.  DLC is cool now.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 22, 2012, 12:17:11 AM
No white colour for NA? Interesting
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 22, 2012, 12:17:53 AM
$2.99 for Super Mario Land, Nintendo getting into appstore prices
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 12:19:30 AM
No white? Fuck that. Matte red and blue are ugly.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:20:42 AM
So you can buy an AC adapter for $10.  That's pretty fucking cheap of them, yeah :lol

Let me guess, no SD card included, either.

Can't wait to see how monstrous this thing looks with the Circle Pad Pro XL :lol

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
are they including a stylus, or could they not justify that extra $.03 either

Wonder if they will drop the price on the regular 3DS?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 22, 2012, 12:23:01 AM
no ac adpater included? WHAT?  :lol :lol :lol


might just get this instead though
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 12:23:08 AM
That whole thing was better than all of E3... god damn E3 sucked dick
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 12:24:24 AM
So you can buy an AC adapter for $10.  That's pretty fucking cheap of them, yeah :lol

Let me guess, no SD card included, either.

Can't wait to see how monstrous this thing looks with the Circle Pad Pro XL :lol

Internal memory has been increased to 645300 BLOCKS!! (4 gigs lol).

With a whopping 4 gigs I doubt they'll include an SD card. Costs man, they're so COSTLY!
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 22, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
oh god that resolution is going to be putrid
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:30:24 AM
I have been seeing lots of "My 3DS plays JUST FINE without a 2nd analog, thankyouverymuch" type comments elsewhere.

"Games Don't Need ____" Moving Goalpost Checklist:

_ HD resolution
_ 1080p Resolution
_ 30 fps
_ 60 fps
_ Multiplayer
_ Online Multiplayer
_ Analog Sticks
_ More than one Analog Stick
_ More than 3 hrs battery life
_ More than 3.5 hrs battery life
_ Sale pricing
_ DLC
_ An AC Adapter

feel free to add your own

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
To quote Sho Nuff: They're going to be as big as your first.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 12:31:38 AM
I have been seeing lots of "My 3DS plays JUST FINE without a 2nd analog, thankyouverymuch" type comments elsewhere.

"Games Don't Need ____" Moving Goalpost Checklist:

_ HD resolution
_ Online Multiplayer
_ Analog Sticks
_ More than one Analog Stick

feel free to add your own



More battery life pre-XL announcement.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2012, 12:31:40 AM
If you want an approximation of the "3DS XL Experience" just tape a PSP to the top half of a DSi XL


and make sure that list doesn't include: sales/cheap games or DLC.  Both are cool now.  Large screens too.  And battery life (nice catch, Shaka).
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 22, 2012, 12:33:21 AM
The only thing that sounds like a genuine improvement is the battery life, which I work around now anyway, so uh, no sale. 

Super strange that Animal Crossing wasn't talked about by NoA but Fire Emblem was.  Also all of this smash teasing isn't fair, nintendo.  At least give me concept art or some shit.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:33:56 AM


Says 3.5 to 6.5 hrs battery life for the XL. At the low point, which is probably the realistic point unless you want to turn everything off and play under a blanket, that's only a 1/2 hour increase in battery life, 1 hr if you want to be generous.

6-10 hour battery now

That's only for DS games, right?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 22, 2012, 12:35:05 AM
To quote Sho Nuff: They're going to be as big as your first.

(http://i.imgur.com/QJkvs.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2012, 12:37:36 AM
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That's only for DS games, right?

I'm not sure.  Someone posted it on gaf.

ignoring nintendo's battery claims, the DSi XL battery life is significantly longer than the DSi.  I can't imagine this situation will be different.  Something like 1.5 times.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 22, 2012, 12:38:00 AM
Super tame revision is super tame.  I don't think Americans were holding off on 3ds because of its smaller form factor or a few negligible hours of play time.  Would've liked to hear about future firmware plans or eshop games likely to come out in america, etc.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2012, 12:40:10 AM
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I own two compatible AC adapters already. I don't need a third one, so I'm happy I'm not forced to buy one.

oh my god

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 22, 2012, 12:40:39 AM
This thread gives papa a boner, so much fail
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 12:49:06 AM
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I own two compatible AC adapters already. I don't need a third one, so I'm happy I'm not forced to buy one.

oh my god



added to list
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pickle on June 22, 2012, 12:49:06 AM
Low dpi + 3D = Nintendo should probably include a complementary pack of asprin. The design language now fits the Wii U though, that's cool I guess.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 12:54:21 AM
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I own two compatible AC adapters already. I don't need a third one, so I'm happy I'm not forced to buy one.

oh my god

That's my wisppel.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 22, 2012, 12:57:30 AM
I see people are already defending no AC adapter, HOLY SHIT
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 01:00:44 AM
"The battery life is so good you'll have plenty of time to save up for a charger."
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 22, 2012, 01:05:38 AM
AC adapter will be included for the US.

Wisppel and co. will unclench their butts and criticize everyone who was quickly to bitch, while ignoring their knee-jerk apologies.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 22, 2012, 01:05:53 AM
"I only use my 3DS once every second Sunday if the weather is bad. Why would you need to charge it?"
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 22, 2012, 01:06:19 AM
Some are making up shit to say miyamoto didn't fucking lie to their faces   :lol :lol :lol


apparently the US version will come with a charger

http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-officially-announces-3ds-xl-199-on-aug-19th-229946.phtml
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 01:18:18 AM
"Thank God they're including a charger, you can never have too many chargers."
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 01:24:38 AM
Quote from: wsippel;39131851
3DS has one stick. That's the official spec, it's what all games need to target first and foremost, and it's never going to change. Nobody supports or gives a fuck about the Circle Pad Pro thing.

2013:



Quote from: wsippel;39131851
Brilliant move adding the second stick to the 3DSi. That'll be the official spec from now on, it'll be what all games need to target first and foremost, and it'll never change. Everyone will support it.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: originalz on June 22, 2012, 01:28:04 AM
This just seems...bizarre...
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 01:38:25 AM
Nah, it's okay i'll wait for a revision
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: naff on June 22, 2012, 01:47:49 AM
Hopefully the larger size will make it more comfortable, after playing SMB 3DL and Mario Kart I can't look at the thing any more without an onset of hand cramp.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2012, 02:27:47 AM
4GB SD card included,Sony am cry

No AC adapter must be one of the most stupidest decisions ever,might as well sell 3DS in parts.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 22, 2012, 02:54:33 AM
4GB SD card included,Sony am cry

No AC adapter must be one of the most stupidest decisions ever,might as well sell 3DS in parts.

If they do that they might reveal that the 3DS costs 50 cents to make.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 02:56:38 AM
4GB SD card included,Sony am cry

As if they weren't already crying

Also, apparently US is getting the adapter
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2012, 03:20:46 AM
Europe and Japan get the shaft again.Pay more,get less.

Unbelievable,AC adapter is now an issue to rich as fuck Nintendo.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 03:35:36 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39137711&postcount=1342 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39137711&postcount=1342)


Quote
Loving the fact that they didn't include a second stick.


These people.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2012, 03:42:19 AM
I like this post
Quote
wait, so how do you recharge it if it doesn't come with one?

Find some rusty wire and stick in your ass,that should do the trick.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 03:46:58 AM
or a masturbation electricity catcher. all nintendo needs to do is include some shots of princess peach in a bikini.

bam. done.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2012, 03:51:01 AM
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Regarding the AC adapter: I actually like that it comes without one. It will certainly confuse people but if I was to buy one I would actually be quite happy that I don't have yet another adapter that is exactly the same as the three others I already have.

Economically that makes a lot of sense, nature will be happy too.

have no words
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 03:53:35 AM
ninthings are a variant of a sub-human species, no need to have words just point and laugh
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: parallax on June 22, 2012, 04:44:59 AM
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I own two compatible AC adapters already. I don't need a third one, so I'm happy I'm not forced to buy one.

oh my god

I don't have words for this shit, so ill laugh maniacally through the night. Fuck the neighbors.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 04:55:02 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39137711&postcount=1342 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39137711&postcount=1342)


Quote
Loving the fact that they didn't include a second stick.


These people.

There is never going to be a second stick for the 3ds.  Nintendo made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.  Gamers will suffer because the vita bombed.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 05:39:56 AM
This is why we need Sony always in the red. To balance the cheapest mothefucker asians on the planet: Nintendo.

whoa hey whoa hey whoa

they might be the cheapest japanese, but using asians brings china into the mix, and i don't know if you can out-cheap people who pay a cent per hour in wages.

Yeah Nintendo pays their employees too much.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 06:33:14 AM
Fuck off Nintendo. That's why the last Nintendo hardware I bought is the GameCube. I will NEVER pay those cheapfucks for hardware again.
I got conned into buying post GameCube HW :-\

Fortunately for my own sanity I offloaded it a few months later.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Third on June 22, 2012, 07:31:44 AM
This is actually a downgrade. Bigger screen in nice, but who wants to play games in such shitty resolution nowadays.

Besides the ntards. Their standards are low anyway.

Bigger screen should have higher res. The graphics will look even worsen now. I'm waiting for the real revision. Not this cheap cash-in.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 07:50:11 AM
Ehn, the DS was awesome.  I feel like missing out on that is like the handheld equal of missing out on the PS2.  I mean, you could, but you end up looking like a weirdo.

I did not miss DS games without owning a DS FYI. DS library is as you said sorta, kinda comparable to PS2 one. No sane gamer would like to miss those games.

:rofl Dirty pirate.

I think I'm gonna get this, everything sounds beyond better than regular 3DS except the blown up graphics. But I'm sure we will get impressions when it comes out in Japan and Europe.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 22, 2012, 08:12:46 AM
No second analog pad is  :lol .

I will get one of these if the form factor makes the system more comfortable to use- 3DS hurts the shit out of my left hand.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 08:35:45 AM
I might cave if retailers start doing a sale on regular 3DS, though.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 08:46:01 AM
I dont understand why people even thought there was going to be another analog stick.  It would have been a distinguished mentally-challenged business decision.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 08:46:54 AM
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/06/603179485.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: brob on June 22, 2012, 08:50:35 AM
too big and too ugly. also functionally useless as a hardware iteration.

Lol, no charger.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2012, 08:51:20 AM
from gaf,no idea if true
Quote
3DS XL - 336 grams
DSi XL - 314 grams
PSP1000 - 280 grams
Vita - 260 grams
3DS - 235 grams
DSLite - 218 grams
DSi - 214 grams
PSP2000- 189 grams
PSPgo - 159 grams*
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 22, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
Fuck nintendo
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Third on June 22, 2012, 09:36:04 AM
I wonder how ugly this'll look with frankenstick XL.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Third on June 22, 2012, 10:17:47 AM
"who needs a 2d  stick??"

Ntards crack me up. The same people who praise a fucking touchscreen on the WiiU controller.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Huff on June 22, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
We need to stop calling these handheld devices portable. That thing is too big.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Huff on June 22, 2012, 10:20:20 AM
"who needs a 2d  stick??"

Ntards crack me up. I guess those people are going to praise a fucking touchscreen on the WiiU controller.

Same people defending no multitouch and resistive touchscreen
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 22, 2012, 10:35:33 AM
I dont understand why people even thought there was going to be another analog stick.  It would have been a distinguished mentally-challenged business decision.

Because they already made a big gimpy clubfoot attachment for the regular 3ds in acknowledgement of their initial design mistake?

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 11:47:09 AM
Because it would screw over iniatial adopters.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
CPP screwed over initial adopters.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 22, 2012, 11:48:19 AM
Dropping the price screwed initial adopters.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
no second analogue in a world where the circle pad exists is about the most distinguished mentally-challenged thing ever. and it would not screw anyone over if they mandate that all games have a control scheme without second analogue. Devs can add a second analogue scheme atop that.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
CPP screwed over initial adopters.

No it didnt it showed initial adopters what a crappy system the 3ds was.


Dropping the price screwed initial adopters.

Ok this is true.



no second analogue in a world where the circle pad exists is about the most distinguished mentally-challenged thing ever. and it would not screw anyone over if they mandate that all games have a control scheme without second analogue. Devs can add a second analogue scheme atop that.

Then that would still suck for initial adopters because they have the inferior controls.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 12:02:53 PM
Then that would still suck for initial adopters because they have the inferior controls.
They still have playable games. If they want the extra control options they can buy a cpp and 3DS games going forward have more(better) control options. They can always throw more ambassador stuff at people with a first gen 3DS as a sort of apology. Going forward this is the best and most elegant solution for everyone involved.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 22, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
Then that would still suck for initial adopters because they have the inferior controls.
They still have playable games. If they want the extra control options they can buy a cpp and 3DS games going forward have more(better) control options. They can always throw more ambassador stuff at people with a first gen 3DS as a sort of apology. Going forward this is the best and most elegant solution for everyone involved.

This- multiple control schemes can be offered for all software.  Don't like it?  Upgrade.  Welcome to the world of technology.  :p
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: magus on June 22, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
i just got an email,3DS XL for 1$ if you bring them a psvita 3G and 2 psvita games :teehee
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 22, 2012, 01:55:48 PM
I thought I was eating crow when I said nintendo doesn't think a second analog stick is important for the 3ds and then proceded to announce the ccp.  Turns out I was right!
~*regurgitates crow*~

I think this has more to do with not confusing consumers or stratifying their market.  They've done stuff like that contrary before, yeah, but Anihawk over on GAF made a good point.  This thing is launching with NSMB2.  They're trying to replicate the 'second launch' effect ds had with a new revision and a 2d mario game in addition to offering retail games on the eshop all in the same month.  Wait what was my point again.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: tiesto on June 22, 2012, 01:58:55 PM
This is why we need Sony always in the red. To balance the cheapest mothefucker asians on the planet: Nintendo.

whoa hey whoa hey whoa

they might be the cheapest japanese, but using asians brings china into the mix, and i don't know if you can out-cheap people who pay a cent per hour in wages.

Vietnam.

Also, hell yeah at the revision. Bigger screens is good for me and I still don't have a 3DS... Still kinda lame there's no second analog stick, Nintendo seems to have no fucking clue anymore  :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: MCD on June 22, 2012, 02:14:38 PM
Selling my Vita for this.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 22, 2012, 06:53:32 PM
I'm going to skip this and just get the new Microsoft tablet instead.  Had there not been a tablet coming out, I probably would buy this.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: originalz on June 22, 2012, 08:54:06 PM
The interesting thing is how upgrade paths will move after this.  The DSi XL was based on the final version of the DS, but this is only based on the first version of 3DS.  I wonder what'll happen with future 3DS versions, and if they'll make a normal and XL version if they do improve the hardware.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: huckleberry on June 22, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
lol this thing looks so big and janky......i fucking love it.

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 11:21:21 PM
They still have playable games. If they want the extra control options they can buy a cpp and 3DS games going forward have more(better) control options. They can always throw more ambassador stuff at people with a first gen 3DS as a sort of apology. Going forward this is the best and most elegant solution for everyone involved.

True, i guess it it just because i only play RPG's that i am defending this, because almost all of them dont need a second analog.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2012, 11:36:46 PM
You know the 3ds had a better show at the nintendo direct than at E3, pretty pathetic really.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: drew on June 23, 2012, 01:27:44 AM
^- got a link to the video?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 23, 2012, 01:38:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfprCBm582k

Japanese Nintendo Direct


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4su84YWziDo

US Nintendo Direct


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9rugKCbA4

Europe Nintnedo Direct
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 23, 2012, 04:43:33 AM
I only saw the japanese one, it was so much better than the crappy e3 showing.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2012, 04:54:28 AM
anyone who still watched gaming press conferences and shit after last e3 really needs to like, learn about something called cause and effect
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 23, 2012, 05:27:58 AM
anyone who still watched gaming press conferences and shit after last e3 really needs to like, learn about something called cause and effect

Hmm?  I have no idea what you mean.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 23, 2012, 07:02:20 AM
Banana chaos theory and Newtonian WiiU tablet flinging momentum
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 23, 2012, 09:42:18 AM
A lack of a second analogue stick is possibly to stop people thinking wrong things about the Wii U pad - i had heard that the 3DS redesign would mimic the control scheme of the Wii U so that the two -could- interoperate but.... that's probably the basis for the Wii Three as it's seemingly a bit too progressive ;)

$1 + Vita + 2 games for 3DS LL ? Sounds like a great deal!
Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 23, 2012, 01:32:23 PM
I hope they're going to run a similar deal for the 3DS. I really want one, but the available colors for NA (red/blue) are horrendous. I'm a fan of matte finishes, but it made those two colors look like cheap chinese knockoffs.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 23, 2012, 05:26:28 PM
I think the point is that they can see that they could dupe people out of a high value item and then sell it for big profit wins - the 3DS is basically getting replaced here so the trade in value of that is going to be around $FREE.99
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2012, 04:29:23 AM
If anything, I think the lack of a second stick shows the CPP was really just a concession to Capcom.  Other third parties are using it a bit, but it obviously wasn't Nintendo's idea.  Gotta save something to sell the next generation of hardware with, I suppose.

Nintendo: Announcing the DS-Uss, our next generation of hardware.  It has the same processor as an iPhone 4, a second analog stick, and an OLED screen!

Nintards, with tears streaming down their faces: INNNNNNNNOOOOOOOVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATIOOOOOOOOOOOON

Sonytards: we no longer exist now that sony was purchased by the tupperware company and focuses on making containers that go "prrrbbthhhht" when you open them

That'd be pretty sweet. Maybe next gen.

Anyways I have no idea if I want this. The PPI is absolute puke but I'm playing my handhelds at home now and the larger screen might be a bit more agreeable. Very disappointed it doesn't have the second stick. Wonder if the NA sales of the CCP factored in at all, they seemed to basically be testing the waters with the limited supply and Gamestop exclusivity. Guess we failed the test. :'(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 25, 2012, 04:43:49 AM
If anything, I think the lack of a second stick shows the CPP was really just a concession to Capcom.  Other third parties are using it a bit, but it obviously wasn't Nintendo's idea.  Gotta save something to sell the next generation of hardware with, I suppose.

Nintendo: Announcing the DS-Uss, our next generation of hardware.  It has the same processor as an iPhone 4, a second analog stick, and an OLED screen!

Nintards, with tears streaming down their faces: INNNNNNNNOOOOOOOVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATIOOOOOOOOOOOON

Sonytards: we no longer exist now that sony was purchased by the tupperware company and focuses on making containers that go "prrrbbthhhht" when you open them

That'd be pretty sweet. Maybe next gen.


Don't you mean "maybe two generations from now, when there's an iPhone 7"
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 25, 2012, 09:35:16 AM
If anything, I think the lack of a second stick shows the CPP was really just a concession to Capcom.  Other third parties are using it a bit, but it obviously wasn't Nintendo's idea.  Gotta save something to sell the next generation of hardware with, I suppose.

Nintendo: Announcing the DS-Uss, our next generation of hardware.  It has the same processor as an iPhone 4, a second analog stick, and an OLED screen!

Nintards, with tears streaming down their faces: INNNNNNNNOOOOOOOVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATIOOOOOOOOOOOON

Sonytards: we no longer exist now that sony was purchased by the tupperware company and focuses on making containers that go "prrrbbthhhht" when you open them

That'd be pretty sweet. Maybe next gen.

Anyways I have no idea if I want this. The PPI is absolute puke but I'm playing my handhelds at home now and the larger screen might be a bit more agreeable. Very disappointed it doesn't have the second stick. Wonder if the NA sales of the CCP factored in at all, they seemed to basically be testing the waters with the limited supply and Gamestop exclusivity. Guess we failed the test. :'(

It was out of stock at Gamestop and the Nintendo online store for a long time. That's what led me to believe they were gearing up for a 2nd stick revision.

Anyway, I think they ought to drop the DSi XL altogether and slot the OG 3DS around that price point. $99 DSi, $149 3DS, $199 3DS XL.  I'd pick up the first 3DS for $149 just to play the 3-4 games I am interested in, and a CCP for RE Revelaitons.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 26, 2012, 03:49:30 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480104

Impressions / Hands On
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Raban on June 26, 2012, 04:08:30 PM
Was waiting for this. Pleasantly surprised it's coming this year. Can't wait to get my hands on Kid Icarus :hyper
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 26, 2012, 04:09:05 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480104

Impressions / Hands On
That thread is an embarrassment
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 26, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
Who cares? lol.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 26, 2012, 04:18:40 PM
Should have known not to scroll past the op, I never learn :'(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 27, 2012, 12:16:07 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480104

Impressions / Hands On
That thread is an embarrassment

Why are you surprised?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 27, 2012, 12:26:03 AM
Round pixels! Thank you, Based Iwata! :bow2
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pickle on June 27, 2012, 12:49:22 AM
Maybe I will end up playing Luigi's Mansion 2.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 27, 2012, 12:54:42 AM
Quote
Round pixels! Thank you, Based Iwata!

the whole "Smoother textures" still holds the crown for worst fanboy excuse ever uttered by a human.

though Iwata's "it's just because people don't understand the Wii U" is gaining a whole bunch of traction.
Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 27, 2012, 02:00:37 AM
The impressions are reassuring enough to bite the Ugly Red XL. The decent DS BC will save money.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 27, 2012, 02:10:37 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480104

Impressions / Hands On
That thread is an embarrassment

Why are you surprised?
I .. Uhm :(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: magus on June 27, 2012, 06:33:46 AM
uhm there is one thing i don't get

if this 3DS is bigger doesn't that mean that now your cradle and other analogue stick are now unusable?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: frod on June 27, 2012, 07:01:29 AM
3DS XL cradle is sold separately. Or here in Yerp it's bundled with the charger.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: magus on June 27, 2012, 07:02:46 AM
i tought the cradle was exclusively bundled with kid icarus... what are they going to do now? sell you 2 version of kid icarus with different cradles? that's why i was asking in the first place
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: frod on June 27, 2012, 07:03:33 AM
original 3DS came with a cradle

kid icarus came with a folding 'stand' thing.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-seqvj5U4NV4/TfSy3A5Wy3I/AAAAAAAAA5w/ScZ-iRGcW0Q/s1600/3DS+Charging+Cradle.jpg)

(http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/kid_icarus_stand_01.jpg)

edit: I don't see why the XL wouldn't fit on the kid icarus cradle, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 27, 2012, 09:12:34 AM
The grey version looks nicer than in the promo shots.  How big is the screen, again? people are comparing it to the Vita's 5 inch.  I thought it's 4.3 like the PSP.

And I'd imagine the XL will make Kid Icarus control worse, given how its aiming method works.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: archnemesis on June 27, 2012, 09:22:02 AM
(http://gameusagi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/3dsxl-vs-psvita.jpg?a6f72a)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 27, 2012, 10:02:51 AM
sofmap preorders are 100% pay up front deals lol. Fugdatnoize
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 27, 2012, 10:54:36 AM
I guess if you want to be able to transfer all your 3DS data/downloads to a new system, you have to use the transfer feature and can't just back everything up on an SD card, right?  No way to trade in the regular 3DS towards the new one without losing everything, then.   :-\

Quote
Round pixels! Thank you, Based Iwata!

the whole "Smoother textures" still holds the crown for worst fanboy excuse ever uttered by a human.

though Iwata's "it's just because people don't understand the Wii U" is gaining a whole bunch of traction.

Iwata stole "please understand?"   :o
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: archnemesis on June 27, 2012, 12:31:45 PM
It looked nice in the preview video and people are claiming the screen is improved. It's obviously not Retina since the pixel density is even lower than before.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 27, 2012, 01:19:31 PM
Damn the pixel density on this thing must set records

And not in the good way
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Vizzys on June 27, 2012, 01:27:58 PM
rounded pixels
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 27, 2012, 01:34:51 PM
The PPI is "1".
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2012, 01:35:59 PM
:lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 27, 2012, 01:37:11 PM
Nintendo has trademarked "Glaucoma Display"
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: archnemesis on June 27, 2012, 02:01:39 PM
Yeah, I'm a bit worried about that Viz. I hope they didn't add some kind of ugly filter.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 27, 2012, 02:11:51 PM
The PPI is "1".

Pixel Per Inch
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Tasty on June 27, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
The PPI is "1".

That would be pretty sweet. Imagine a 20 pixel, 5x4" screen. Would be awesome.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 05:23:43 PM
screen shot:

(http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mario_dotrix.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: fart on June 27, 2012, 05:25:22 PM
dat plumma
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 27, 2012, 10:04:33 PM
http://andriasang.com/con1pd/3ds_circle_pad_expansion/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

3DS XL CPP is coming :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 27, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480104

Impressions / Hands On
That thread is an embarrassment

Why are you surprised?
I .. Uhm :(

To be fair its normal to have hope but yea..


http://andriasang.com/con1pd/3ds_circle_pad_expansion/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

3DS XL CPP is coming :lol


So instead of adding it right then and there, they are ok with nickel and diming you for it (a possible second time)   :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 27, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
haha are you fucking serious bro :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 27, 2012, 10:28:51 PM
Quote
Expected.
And as has been pointed out over and over again, adding the extra stick/buttons to the XL would fracture the market.
Everyone that keeps complaining about it knows that.

The Nintendo Difference™
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Bebpo on June 27, 2012, 10:34:20 PM
XL + Circle Pad is going to be like holding a PS2 in your hands.  Or a lego firetruck.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 10:41:53 PM
fracture the market my ass

choose from this list:

__"Hey, everyone who bought and registered an original 3DS. You're now eligible for a CCP for just $10 shipped from the Nintendo Online store. We're also gonna include a DLC code for an eShop game, your choice from the list presented at checkout, as our way of saying thanks for your support."

__"Hey, everyone, the CCP for the original 3DS is now just $9.99 and no longer exclusive to Gamestop. You can find it at retailers across the country, or at our online store."

__"To paraphrase my old friend Jack Tretton, 'Thanks for the $20! NOW GO FUCK YOURSELVES.' Whimsy up, bitches."
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 10:54:41 PM
salsashark in there pitchin' just as goddamned hard as he can pitch :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 27, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
I don't see how they're fracturing the market with the Circle Pad Pro available for the 3DS- the XL should have had the second pad-- end of story.

And no way this is the only 3DS revision that is released.  Something else is sure to follow.

http://andriasang.com/con1pd/3ds_circle_pad_expansion/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

3DS XL CPP is coming :lol

:rofl

This is brilliant- why sell everything together like they did the 3DS?  Sell the system by itself!  Sell it WITHOUT AN AC (in Japan)!  Sell the cradle separately!  Sell a piece of the control pad by itself!  MO MONEY MO MONEY MO MONEY
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:00:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TAa84.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 27, 2012, 11:06:45 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 27, 2012, 11:10:16 PM
I dunno if they have them in America, but in Japan you can buy carrying cases designed to hold the 3DS with the CPP attached.  First time I saw one I thought it was a ukelele case.

You'll probably need a Nintendo branded brief case for 3DS XL + CPP.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Huff on June 27, 2012, 11:11:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TAa84.jpg)

 :lol

gross foot. no buy
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
everyone's moved on to the second set of shoulder buttons making it too thick argument, as if two buttons on the back of the unit where your middle fingers would naturally rest when holding it wouldn't solve that
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:13:43 PM
no, adding five inches to the size and having to hunt down a $20 peripheral was a much better solution, folks are just being unreasonable is all
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 27, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
Sell a piece of the control pad by itself!  MO MONEY MO MONEY MO MONEY

(http://i47.tinypic.com/nzputg.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:19:34 PM
:lol took me a second
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 27, 2012, 11:22:32 PM
aiming for small victories here, buuuut at least this means the circle pad pro/dual analog dream might not be completely abandoned.

before people were all "the only games to support it were the ones announced with it! nothing else ever will! GFY!" and I'm OK with it continuing as an alternate scheme.  With the first dual shock, most PS1 games could still be played with the regular controller, save for one or two like ore no ryouri and ape escape.  That was only, what, 14 years ago? these things take time.

everyone's moved on to the second set of shoulder buttons making it too thick argument, as if two buttons on the back of the unit where your middle fingers would naturally rest when holding it wouldn't solve that

The original classic controller had four shoulder buttons on the same row.

(http://i.imgur.com/btAZd.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:25:33 PM
true

i wish vita would have gone with a couple of buttons on the back instead of that busted-ass rear touchpad which only registers 50% of the time
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:31:08 PM
i think some flat clicky buttons on the back could work
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 27, 2012, 11:31:24 PM
everyone's moved on to the second set of shoulder buttons making it too thick argument, as if two buttons on the back of the unit where your middle fingers would naturally rest when holding it wouldn't solve that

Wait for the SBP (shoulder buttons pro) add-on, designed to fit over the CPP, for extra comfort!
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
Bring it back.

(http://i.imgur.com/BEjs6.jpg)

6 buttons.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 27, 2012, 11:35:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pzKPSSIIW8
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 27, 2012, 11:40:49 PM
With the stick attached this will be bigger than a 10" tablet held in portrait position.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2012, 11:46:26 PM
what the fuck do ds games look on this thing? what the fuck
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 27, 2012, 11:51:08 PM
Quote
lol, yes! SOLD


Now NOA just needs to announce some better colors and I'm getting an XL.

Because when a company decides to nickel and dime me I jump for joy and solidify my purchase.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 28, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
I feel sorry for Nintards these days.  Having to rabidly defend a company who keeps making anti-consumer decision after anti-consumer decision.  It's gotta be tough for them.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Raban on June 28, 2012, 12:47:24 AM
Was Nintendo ever a pro-consumer company?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 28, 2012, 01:25:43 AM
Nah, we were just too young and stupid to know better.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 01:35:12 AM
salsashark in there pitchin' just as goddamned hard as he can pitch :lol

He can really be a defensive, touchy, and insufferable fanthing sometimes. And today is one of those times. Like a BBW on PMS not letting anyone have a word.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: pilonv1 on June 28, 2012, 01:37:55 AM
http://andriasang.com/con1pi/nintendo_shareholder_meeting/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Quote
Q: On the possibility of additional 3DS models outside of 3DS XL

Iwata responded that users would be confused if there were too many choices. There's also the concern about mass production efficiency. So, there are no plans in the near future for new models. The 3DS XL was the result of there being great need for a large screen.

the size of the bubble they live in must be amazing
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 01:38:42 AM
http://andriasang.com/con1pd/3ds_circle_pad_expansion/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://andriasang.com/con1pd/3ds_circle_pad_expansion/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)

3DS XL CPP is coming :lol
What a shitty company  :yuck
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 28, 2012, 02:18:56 AM
I dont know why they bother.  Having to play with 2 of those analog nubs... no thanks.  The buttons on the 3ds are like the only redeeming factor fo the 3ds.  People asking for another nub dont have a 3ds in the first place nor tried the analog nub.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 28, 2012, 02:56:12 AM
My biggest fault with it is the d-pad. It may just be mine, but jeeze it's an uncomfortable floaty piece of shit.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 28, 2012, 02:57:07 AM
Oh man.  So much deliciousness I don't even know where to begin.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 28, 2012, 03:32:21 AM
My biggest fault with it is the d-pad. It may just be mine, but jeeze it's an uncomfortable floaty piece of shit.

No the dpad sucks too.  But i feel the analog nub is worse.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 28, 2012, 03:42:16 AM
salsashark in there pitchin' just as goddamned hard as he can pitch :lol

He can really be a defensive, touchy, and insufferable fanthing sometimes. And today is one of those times. Like a BBW on PMS not letting anyone have a word.

Apparently he does the same shit with Steam
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 04:47:03 AM
Salsashark is just willfully stupid really

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39311173&postcount=22 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39311173&postcount=22)
EDIT: better example
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39311326&postcount=43
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 28, 2012, 05:56:37 AM
Quote
This way lazy third parties are getting what they want. Great that I'm not forced into this.

(Someone then asks "What third parties?")

Quote
Those that cannot create a functioning control system without two sticks. Of course, they are limiting their audience this way, but that's their decision then.
It's sad to see that Nintendo returned to dual-stick controls on Wii U.

These people deserve Nintendo, they really do.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 06:59:54 AM
I propose being a Nintendo "follower" has a legit shout at being treated as a medical condition. Applies for "followers" of most things, Nintendo fans most of all though.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 10:09:08 AM
Vita has no games*

*that I feel interested in spending time on right now
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 10:47:12 AM
heh, how shitty is the vita that it's losing to *this* bullshit

- too expensive
- required bullshit proprietary memory
- games too expensive* and they never really got their DDL shit together
- sony is a bunch of idiots who had and continue to have no idea what to do with it

Any number of reasons, really.  The biggest reason, and one which Nintendo is also facing (but at least has a fallback with their stock of beloved franchises), is that dedicated handhelds are dying, at least for the adult market. The faster prices of tablets and smaller form factor tablet-style electronics fall, the faster dedicated handhelds will die off. *I spent $10 over the past week or so on iOS games, and got a handful for that money, a few of which are quality efforts. On Vita or Nintendo that same $10 will get me one (two, at most) DDL games, or zero retail releases.  Yes, controls, etc. I agree. But Infinity Blade was $1 yesterday. On PSN it would have been $10. Call of Cthulhu : The Wasted Land was $4.99. Admittedly, the controls and UI kind of suck, but on PSN or the eShop that game would be $10-15. That, and the fact that you can do many other things besides play games on these devices, is what's causing most people to ask themselves why they would want to buy an additional piece of hardware that takes up precious pocket/bag space and "only plays games." Meanwhile, there's a post on the PSN Blog celebrating the fact that the Vita just *now* got a fucking Youtube app.

It's gonna dry up fast for dedicated handheld gamers. As I said elsewhere on this board, you can pretty much kiss it goodbye by the end of next year. Nintendo will have their franchises to weather this last gen of handhelds. Sony will have...well, Sony will make a beaming post about adding a Hulu app, or something.

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 10:54:32 AM
:( i'm sorry

i'm just forreal a bit buttsore that, as always is my luck, as soon as i get interested in something it starts to die off :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 28, 2012, 11:06:14 AM
That's why I didn't even get involved this round and buy a vita :(

I played 5 straight hours of P3P on a flight yesterday. :bow PSP-2000 with CFW :bow2
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 28, 2012, 11:07:55 AM
Sho Nuff played a JAPANESE RPG!?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 28, 2012, 11:19:07 AM
Yes because it's basically the story of my college career: Study at Japanese university and battle monsters at night

Also, P3P respects my spare time, the interface is so super zippy
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 28, 2012, 11:25:29 AM
Yes because it's basically the story of my college career: Study at Japanese university and battle monsters at night

Also, P3P respects my spare time, the interface is so super zippy

don't let MAF find out! he misses all the bullshit walking

but yeah P3P's all-killer, no-filler structure and UI are the tits
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 28, 2012, 11:38:54 AM
Yes because it's basically the story of my college career: Study at Japanese university and battle monsters at night

Also, P3P respects my spare time, the interface is so super zippy

don't let MAF find out! he misses all the bullshit walking

but yeah P3P's all-killer, no-filler structure and UI are the tits

FUCK walking, at first I was like "Oh man this looks kind of cheap" but after an hour I was like "OH MY GOD I'M SO HAPPY THIS EXISTS"
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 01:25:19 PM
Quote
Putting a second analog stick on the XL makes the original 3DS moot.
 
 It fractures the base at a time where they can't afford to do that.
 
 It sucks for the people who bought a 3DS, then bought a Frankenstick, and are buying an XL, only to buy another Frankenstick.  But I am not sure this is a particularly large group or one that is especially concerned about how much money they are spending on this endeavor.
I love how these people feel they need to defend Nintendo from "fracturing the userbase" by arguing OPTIONS are a bad thing. It's like they believe poor little old Nintendo is the gaming equivalent of Lara Croft needing her white knight to save her instead of the fucking platform holder that can mandate all games support original 3DS control schemes then do whatever they want ONTOP of that OPTIONALLY.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 01:27:47 PM
And with that I am done being irritated with corporate ball washers, consider any post I make henceforth regarding this subject to be out and out trolling.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 01:47:10 PM
Some of you are bitter
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Some of you are bitter
I'd like to hear you defend this from a consumer standpoint
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 28, 2012, 02:14:47 PM
Salsashark is just willfully stupid really

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39311173&postcount=22 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39311173&postcount=22)
EDIT: better example
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39311326&postcount=43

Dose Posts

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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
Some of you are bitter

and some of you seem to enjoy paying for taking it up the shitter

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
I'm not taking anything up the ass.  The XL doesn't interest me, I won't be getting one.  I am apathetic about it just like I am about a lot of other things that I hardly bitch about.

As from a consumer standpoint... what?  I don't think you guys have ever been at the receiving end of genuine anti consumer practices very much if this constitutes that kind of comparison.  Nintendo obviously doesn't care about the circle pad pro shit, it was something that capcom wanted and so they obliged them for Monster Hunter exclusivity.  I'm just seeing the typical forumer teeth gnashing from people who don't really have the perspective to understand why certain things play out the way they do.  Pop quiz time, which upcoming nintendo games support the ccp in any meaningful way?  Dual analog isnt important to nintendo's strategy and its not a kingmaker, deal with it.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
Some of you are bitter

about what
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
"I'd like to hear you defend this from a consumer standpoint"

"I don't think you guys have ever been at the receiving end of genuine anti consumer practices very much if this constitutes that kind of comparison.  Nintendo obviously doesn't care about the circle pad pro shit, it was something that capcom wanted and so they obliged them for Monster Hunter exclusivity.  I'm just seeing the typical forumer teeth gnashing from people who don't really have the perspective to understand why certain things play out the way they do.  Pop quiz time, which upcoming nintendo games support the ccp in any meaningful way?  Dual analog isnt important to nintendo's strategy and its not a kingmaker, deal with it."

?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 04:07:33 PM
Some of you are bitter

about what

The hyperbole is very apparent, here.  If it was a turd it would permeate its presence throughout the bungalow from the basement latrine.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 04:09:04 PM
"I'd like to hear you defend this from a consumer standpoint"

"I don't think you guys have ever been at the receiving end of genuine anti consumer practices very much if this constitutes that kind of comparison.  Nintendo obviously doesn't care about the circle pad pro shit, it was something that capcom wanted and so they obliged them for Monster Hunter exclusivity.  I'm just seeing the typical forumer teeth gnashing from people who don't really have the perspective to understand why certain things play out the way they do.  Pop quiz time, which upcoming nintendo games support the ccp in any meaningful way?  Dual analog isnt important to nintendo's strategy and its not a kingmaker, deal with it."

?

See?  Total lack of perspective.  Now, if we were bitching about the ac adapter shenanigans, thats some dubious shit right there. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 04:09:55 PM
Wait would a bungalow have a basement?

edit:
Anyway, the problem with the 3ds right now isn't what enthusiasts consider to be adequate control schemes or whatever.  Its still a content and pricing issue that they I imagine they are adamant on not backing down from until they can see what effect NSMB2 has on 3ds sales during this fiscal.  If its still slagging behind in the states they need to concede to the new market realities and adjust accordingly. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 04:16:44 PM
I think all of us were bitching about the AC adapter situation. (At least I was because I happen to be in an EU region). You're trying to sell perspective to me when I am looking at this as a consumer wanting a 3DS. I'm baffled.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: tiesto on June 28, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
What games outside of Monhan use the circle pad pro?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 04:20:53 PM
Some of you are bitter

about what

The hyperbole is very apparent, here.  If it was a turd it would permeate its presence throughout the bungalow from the basement latrine.

Hyperbole and bitterness are two different things. They can compliment each other, but one does not mean the other. Also, I fail to see anything hyperbolic in this thread? Everyone is right. Nintendo are half baked crooks.

As for being bitter, no one has any reason TO be bitter. Oh no, so the 3dsxl won't have a second stick. And this is going to be deter me from buying it, how exactly? But that doesn't make any less pathetic or hilarious or flat out wrong.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 04:21:36 PM
What games outside of Monhan use the circle pad pro?
Resident Evil, fuckall else I can remember.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 04:21:54 PM
What's your problem again?  That they're gonna resell the frankenstick?  I'm saying don't let that factor into your purchase because its almost an inconsequential peripheral that exists for very very few reasons.  If anything you should be more concerned about the software outlook going into 2013, because I'm not too confident about it at this point.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 04:29:26 PM
If anything you should be more concerned about the software outlook going into 2013, because I'm not too confident about it at this point.

Shin Megami Tensei 4.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
no games that use the $20 second stick...except the games that use the $20 second stick

no one cared about the first model's $20 second stick...so they make another $20 2nd stick for their new model

seems reasonable and consumer-friendly
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
What's your problem again?  That they're gonna resell the frankenstick?  I'm saying don't let that factor into your purchase because its almost an inconsequential peripheral that exists for very very few reasons.  If anything you should be more concerned about the software outlook going into 2013, because I'm not too confident about it at this point.
The problem is it is not 1997, for some the world has moved on beyond single sticks. It was atrocious on the PSP where you had to reform your hand into some crab like claw to even play properly. You seem to think I am arguing for what is available right now, which is most assuredly NOT what my argument is about. To add a second analogue for 2 games would be highly distinguished mentally-challenged, the argument here is to add it to the console so going FORWARD more games can have a dual analogue control option added to stylus/touchpad/facebuttons or whatever else camera movement/look scheme is implemented. This way everyone gets what they want and there is never a need for anyone to cry about this again.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 28, 2012, 04:33:22 PM
What games outside of Monhan use the circle pad pro?

Ace Combat, Kingdamu Heartsu, Resident Evil, MGS: Why Would You Buy This Edition and I dunno
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 04:35:05 PM
What's your problem again?  That they're gonna resell the frankenstick?  I'm saying don't let that factor into your purchase because its almost an inconsequential peripheral that exists for very very few reasons.  If anything you should be more concerned about the software outlook going into 2013, because I'm not too confident about it at this point.
The problem is it is not 1997, for some the world has moved on beyond single sticks. It was atrocious on the PSP where you had to reform your hand into some crab like claw to even play properly. You seem to think I am arguing for what is available right now, which is most assuredly NOT what my argument is about. To add a second analogue for 2 games would be highly distinguished mentally-challenged, the argument here is to add it to the console so going FORWARD more games can have a dual analogue control option added to stylus/touchpad/facebuttons or whatever else camera movement/look scheme is implemented. This way everyone gets what they want and there is never a need for anyone to cry about this again.


you're being unreasonable
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 28, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
What's your problem again?  That they're gonna resell the frankenstick?  I'm saying don't let that factor into your purchase because its almost an inconsequential peripheral that exists for very very few reasons.  If anything you should be more concerned about the software outlook going into 2013, because I'm not too confident about it at this point.
The problem is it is not 1997, for some the world has moved on beyond single sticks. It was atrocious on the PSP where you had to reform your hand into some crab like claw to even play properly. You seem to think I am arguing for what is available right now, which is most assuredly NOT what my argument is about. To add a second analogue for 2 games would be highly distinguished mentally-challenged, the argument here is to add it to the console so going FORWARD more games can have a dual analogue control option added to stylus/touchpad/facebuttons or whatever else camera movement/look scheme is implemented. This way everyone gets what they want and there is never a need for anyone to cry about this again.


you're being unreasonable

/nfan
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 04:37:44 PM
you're being unreasonable
I'm sorry for hurting your Lara :'(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 04:46:39 PM
If a second analog is THAT important than know that the ccpxl is going to be severely underutilized and don't buy the system.  Its really that simple.  But I doubt any of this is some malicious plan by nintendo to nickle and dime consumers as they very much seem apathetic to the necessity of dual analog control schemes.  They have like , one game that supports it in a half assed fashion. Its a monster hunter peripheral first and foremost and not a scheme at your expense. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 05:12:21 PM
If a second analog is THAT important than know that the ccpxl is going to be severely underutilized
That is the entire point I'm making. I would like there to be something other than MonHun for me to look forward to in the third person action genre on the system when I get it. I'm inclined to believe there is a non negligible amount of consumers out there that prefers dual slider/analogue controls as a control scheme. You're alienating these consumers based on cheapness/pride/willfullness/miyamoto's stink breath or whatever else silliness caused them to do this. In the long run you lose more if people go "oh hay that game looks fun! ... 1980's control scheme? DAMN. PASS" than you lose on a little less profit per unit sold. In fact they could build the cost directly into the price on the XL as well and continue on their merry way.

tl;dr As it stands when I get my 3DS (non XL btw, i see no point in getting this thing) I will buy RE and Monhun and ignore most every other third person game on the system due to control preference and I'm sure I am not alone. Adding the stick loses you nothing for those who don't want/need it but it gains you a larger audience to sell your games to for those of us who actually like dual sticks/sliders.

This is really beneficial for both me as the consumer and Nintendo, I'm not sure I can make it more clear for you than this, so if you still think my argument is silly I'll stop trying.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
rofl I have been using two sticks since like 1998, guv. sony made the mistake of giving psp one stick, and rectified this by giving vita two sticks. just common fucking sense, yo. Nintendo am distinguished mentally-challenged fellows, especially since 3ds is strong enough, more powerful than ps2, to finally play 3d games worth a shit, which REQUIRES a second stick. Nintendo didn't put a second stick on 3dsxl because they aren't consumer and developer friendly and because they are hard headed and refuse to admit fault.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Tasty on June 28, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
Hey guys wh-

(http://i.imgur.com/S7S69.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 28, 2012, 09:12:27 PM
I care. I'm buying one <3
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 28, 2012, 09:18:46 PM
Well, he's not wrong, though.  Some people here are definitely bitter about Nintendo.  See: six page thread about product nobody cares about from company nobody cares about.  So yeah, some people here are bitter.  The rest of us just like sitting around a good campfire, regardless of where the firewood came from.

Then again, maybe some people just don't like to see their peers reward shitty decisions.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
I just like poking fun at dumb things.  This is a dumb thing, so poke-poke.  I'll go after any company (and have, right here), because I realize I am a consumer who should demand better things from the faceless corporations I give the money I earned fucking up my back and knees, rather than thinking they're my buddy or that I have to defend their stupid anti-consumer actions as some sort of weird "keeper of the faith."
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
Maybe some people should realize it happens all the time, get over it, and move into the exciting world of shirtless photography.



(http://i.imgur.com/0VN2B.jpg)

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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
why did i click that, it was clearly labeled and i clicked it anyway :(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Huff on June 28, 2012, 09:42:29 PM
Ntards arn't the only ones getting shitty tattoos. The amount of peope that get gears tats that cliffy tweets about is astonishing. I don't understand how people think these are any kind of a good idea
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 09:45:03 PM
when i managed the comic shop this dude came in with a spawn tattoo which ran the length of his considerably ham-like leg

i bet that seems like an awesome decision nowadays
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 28, 2012, 09:46:16 PM
when i managed the comic shop this dude came in with a spawn tattoo which ran the length of his considerably ham-like leg

i bet that seems like an awesome decision nowadays

Did he smell like potted meat?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 09:48:54 PM
no, he was just a dumb redneck

i have smelled that pungent odor many a time, though
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
I just like poking fun at dumb things.  This is a dumb thing, so poke-poke.  I'll go after any company (and have, right here), because I realize I am a consumer who should demand better things from the faceless corporations I give the money I earned fucking up my back and knees, rather than thinking they're my buddy or that I have to defend their stupid anti-consumer actions as some sort of weird "keeper of the faith."

I also feel that everyone should have the balls the question and call out bullshit. Regardless of whether you end up buying whatever these corporations are serving, it's OK to be skeptical even for a moment -- and share the skepticism with others-- instead of swallowing it up like lobotomized, cultist cum pigs, then clap like distinguished mentally-challenged sea lions for more.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 28, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
I just like poking fun at dumb things.  This is a dumb thing, so poke-poke.  I'll go after any company (and have, right here), because I realize I am a consumer who should demand better things from the faceless corporations I give the money I earned fucking up my back and knees, rather than thinking they're my buddy or that I have to defend their stupid anti-consumer actions as some sort of weird "keeper of the faith."

I also feel that everyone should have the balls the question and call out bullshit. Regardless of whether you end up buying whatever these corporations are serving, it's OK to be skeptical even for a bit instead of swallowing it up like lobotomized, cultist cum pigs, then clap like distinguished mentally-challenged sea lions for more.

 :rofl

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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
I always chalk some of that up as the forum's schtick inherited from grandma drinky (but lacking the wit and flavor), but maybe there's more substance to it, I don't know.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
are we talking about me?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 10:06:03 PM
I don't know who Oscar is talking about, but I'm talking the crazy teet-suckling kids of today.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 10:08:20 PM
I'm also going to admit that I have no idea what was being discussed the last two pages that brought this up, I'm too pretty to read through that. :-*
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Huff on June 28, 2012, 10:08:45 PM
Yeah, I agree, nobody should be free of criticism, but if emcee thinks there is a disproportionate amount of criticism coming from particular people when the topic is Nintendo, he's not wrong, in my opinion.

But I'm sure if I stroll over to the Diablo thread, I'll find Triumph chastising people for buying Diablo 3 and supporting Blizzard's shitty decisions, right?

nintendo just has a lot of stuff going on recently, so they have more for us to shit on currently.

nfans also seem to take it more personally than say when sony/vita is shat on. that i've seen at least
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 10:12:54 PM
Taco-chan is a testament that Sony/Vita fans can take it just as personally as any ninthing, with a pinch of emo too. Then again he's just one case.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 10:15:55 PM
i shit on the vita, too
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Huff on June 28, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
Taco-chan is a testament that Sony/Vita fans can take it just as personally as any ninthing, with a pinch of emo too. Then again he's just one case.

true, but he seems to come around a bit. even he ackowledges how shitty sony can be most some times when dealing with da vita
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 10:17:47 PM
i shit on the vita, too

I love taking pictures of my shit with the Vita, it *pops* on DAT OLED so much you can almost taste it.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
it's not polite to speak ill of the dead
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 10:21:59 PM
The Vita is far from being dead. Off the top of my head:

1. Uncharted: Golden Abyss
2. Gravity Rush
3. Lumines
4. Touch My Katamari
5. Unit 13
6. Dynasty Warriors Next
7. Escape Plan
8. Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
9. BlazBlue
10. Mortal Kombat
11. Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
12. Hot Shots Golf
13. Virtua Tennis 4
14. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
15. MotorStorm RC
16. Disgaea 3
17. Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
18. Plants vs. Zombies
19. Super Stardust Delta

Vita still has no gaemz, though.

Still great games to come that have been announced:

LBP
Sound Shapes
Call of Duty
Assassin's Creed
FIFA 13
Smart As
Sonic All Stars
PlayStation All Star Battle Royale
Bioshock
and more
+ unannounced titles (gamescom + Tokyo Games Show (yes Sony are going) + PlayStation Heaven).

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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 10:26:55 PM
Yeah, I agree, nobody should be free of criticism, but if emcee thinks there is a disproportionate amount of criticism coming from particular people when the topic is Nintendo, he's not wrong, in my opinion.

But I'm sure if I stroll over to the Diablo thread, I'll find Triumph chastising people for buying Diablo 3 and supporting Blizzard's shitty decisions, right?

everyone in that thread has given blizz ample criticism bro
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
He's had lot of criticism but he's such a slut for it, he's like the equivalent of the chick who loves sucking dick but doesn't wanna swallow, and when he's about to bust a nut on her fresh tongue, she takes it out, puts her hand out and says,"wait up, I don't swallow" and goes back to sucking.

I don't like Nintendo but I"m not bitter towards them, and I agree some are bitter. But not all of us. Some of us just like to laugh at incompetence. All I'm in for is SMT4.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 28, 2012, 10:51:18 PM
The Vita is far from being dead. Off the top of my head:

1. Uncharted: Golden Abyss
2. Gravity Rush
3. Lumines
4. Touch My Katamari
5. Unit 13
6. Dynasty Warriors Next
7. Escape Plan
8. Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
9. BlazBlue
10. Mortal Kombat
11. Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
12. Hot Shots Golf
13. Virtua Tennis 4
14. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
15. MotorStorm RC
16. Disgaea 3
17. Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
18. Plants vs. Zombies
19. Super Stardust Delta

Vita still has no gaemz, though.

Still great games to come that have been announced:

LBP
Sound Shapes
Call of Duty
Assassin's Creed
FIFA 13
Smart As
Sonic All Stars
PlayStation All Star Battle Royale
Bioshock
and more
+ unannounced titles (gamescom + Tokyo Games Show (yes Sony are going) + PlayStation Heaven).

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Though it could be mistaken for a Lyte post lol.
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I guess this would light fires if I hadn't played it all already.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: tiesto on June 28, 2012, 11:20:34 PM
Maybe some people should realize it happens all the time, get over it, and move into the exciting world of shirtless photography.



(http://i.imgur.com/0VN2B.jpg)

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 :yuck :yuck :yuck

Saving this shit:
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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 28, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
I have nothing against Nintendo, or any other company. At one point or another I've owned an original DS, a DS Lite, a DSi, an NES, an OG Gameboy, a Gamecube, and I even gave the Wii three different chances to grab me. I'll no doubt have owned a 3DS at least once before it's all over. Hardware tends to pass through my hands pretty fast, and I have no problems selling or trading something if I get tired of it or I'm not getting much use out of it.  If anyone takes offense at anything I say about Nintendo/MS/Sony, or reads anything into it other than legitimate criticism or me just having a laugh - well, I don't really care.

Vita's dead, everyone can "well, maybe if..." all they want, but by this time next year it may as well not even exist. Nintendo could have slapped a second stick on this XL thing and funnelled off some of that third-party "core games" (the types of games that i like to play) corpsewater.  They're just cheap fucks. That's the real reason for it not being there. So now I have to slide my finger around glass if I want to play the kinds of games I like in a portable form.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 28, 2012, 11:34:40 PM
Eh, that was a little overboard.  Let's all just get drunk and fuck in the light of a virtual boy bonfire.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 28, 2012, 08:41:40 PM
I'll be getting this because I have no soul and I hate myself
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2012, 08:44:10 PM
Eh, that was a little overboard.  Let's all just get drunk and fuck in the light of a virtual boy bonfire.

hope this wasn't cuz of my comment. should have added the caveat that that description was the entire d3 thread despite all our issues haha
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 08:50:52 PM
Bitter? No. In the same way a company like valve has earned goodwill with me over the last 5 years Nintendo has shot their reputation to shit in the last 8 years or so. I'm naturally going to give a shit company more grief than one that is sporadically shit. This isn't bitterness.
Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 28, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
Eh, that was a little overboard.  Let's all just get drunk and fuck in the light of a virtual boy bonfire.

I saw it pre-edit. Who knew you have a heart big enough to erase that? :heart
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 28, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
Eh, that was a little overboard.  Let's all just get drunk and fuck in the light of a virtual boy bonfire.

hope this wasn't cuz of my comment. should have added the caveat that that description was the entire d3 thread despite all our issues haha

no, it was directed at oscar before i read a later post he made. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Raban on June 28, 2012, 09:31:09 PM
If anything you should be more concerned about the software outlook going into 2013, because I'm not too confident about it at this point.

Shin Megami Tensei 4.

Holy fuck I almost forgot about this. Buying a 3DS XL is gonna be the best thing that happens to me this whole year.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Valve?  I could go on  a sissy fit rant about how I bought tf2 for 20 bucks once upon a time and yet im still treated like a f2p guy when it comes to getting any items that I want outside of random drops, but I don't because uhhhh... apathy.  I'm not bitter like some people. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 10:42:35 PM
Valve?  I could go on  a sissy fit rant about how I bought tf2 for 20 bucks once upon a time and yet im still treated like a f2p guy when it comes to getting any items that I want outside of random drops, but I don't because uhhhh... apathy.  I'm not bitter like some people. 
Expressing displeasure at something dumb that happened yesterday isn't being bitter.  Being bitter is to piss on Nintendo for inconsequential bullshit because you are angry about random unrelated bullshit that happened 10 years ago. At no time did I nor anyone else here displayed an unreasonable grudge towards Nintendo, I dunno where you are getting this bitter nonsense, or perhaps you are using the word in some arbitrary way?
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 10:46:03 PM
I read this forum which includes your posts.   Don't play coy with me, duder. 

Anyway, final word, you have options.  Explore those.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 28, 2012, 10:54:46 PM
I read this forum which includes your posts.   Don't play coy with me, duder. 

Anyway, final word, you have options.  Explore those.
Okay. So you are saying the various complaints about Nintendo is not in fact based on the fact that they have been releasing sub standard hardware, made more distinguished mentally-challenged choices than anyone the last decade etc? You are saying I'm upset because Mario pee'd in my cornflakes 10 years ago. Sure awesome. I wonder what Microsoft did for me to laugh at them for their crappy Kinect poop , $99 locking in poop, same old core game bullshit. I wonder what Sony did to me to make me not play my Vita since launch and deride them for not having games I want, laughing at move bullshit, laughing at wonderbook bullshit laughing at PSPGo when it launched. I wonder what EA did to me to make me .. etc etc etc.

No instead of the fault lying with Nintendo for making absolutely bullshit choices, it is me that is holding some random grudge against Nintendo. Go on going on brah
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 28, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
Hey guys bomb monkey just came out on the eshop and its kinda cool.  Sorta derivative of tetris attack stuff but you cant go wrong with 5 bucks.  Still trying to wrap my head around it. 
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 04:06:48 AM
I wish I stepped out after quoting demi :(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Fifstar on June 29, 2012, 04:49:53 AM
Is the main problem that Nintendo hasn't implemented the second nub because a)people here think Nintendo wants to bank on the frankenstick xl or b)that Nintendo just doesn't fully embrace dual analog on the 3DS? Because I don't believe that a) is the main reason why Nintendo left it out on the xl.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Damian79 on June 29, 2012, 04:58:08 AM
Is the main problem that Nintendo hasn't implemented the second nub because a)people here think Nintendo wants to bank on the frankenstick xl or b)that Nintendo just doesn't fully embrace dual analog on the 3DS? Because I don't believe that a) is the main reason why Nintendo left it out on the xl.

AKA 1 analog nub is bad enough.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 29, 2012, 05:00:59 AM
I think most people's (I'm certainly speaking for myself here) gripe is definitely b) and also c) Nintendo's apparently stubborn refusal to implement design innovations that they didn't originate (dual analog, workable online, etc) into their games/tech is seen as fucking dumb.

Like, I've owned every system Nintendo has put out up until the 3DS (and I keep trying to ignore the impending Fire Emblem release so I won't break down and buy one) and enjoy most of their marquee titles (talking Mario and Zeldas here, shit like Pikmin, Animal Crossing, etc can go DIAF) but just can't see myself continuing to sink money into their coffers as a day one or even early adopter of their increasingly shitty tech.  I'll probably buy a Weeeeoooo at the end of it's lifespan and buy anything worth playing that it's in my wheelhouse as far as preferred games goes.

Like, if you enjoy ACTUALLY PLAYING GAMES then shit like Nintendoland should be an insult to you.  I really don't understand the mindset of people who enjoy crap like that.  Anyway, we've wandered kind of far afield from the 3DSxl but yeah, tl;dr version is that Nintendo's head is up it's own ass.
Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 29, 2012, 05:08:09 AM
It's pretty obvious that they have no desire to support it, and that it was stitched together for the sole reason of supporting Capcom's titles. And I agree with whomever said that having a second stick would've been great, but the time for it was 2010 when the 3DS was unveiled. I also subscribe to the idea that Nintendo might never embrace or incorporate it in future iterations out of stubbornness and sheer pride.

But at the same time, and with how badly the Vita is performing, I was hoping that all the devs who were counting on Sony's stillborn would find a home on the 3DS platform. That Nintendo would court as many of them as possible by providing a greater scope and versatility with the hardware. Unfortunately that's not going to happen, and they will continue to restrict and enforce limitations, because nothing is more beautiful than innovation that is bred through handicaps and retardedness! (Actual excuse)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 05:21:13 AM
It's kinda funny watching mighty Nintendo fighting for profitability,Iwata made some pretty big mistakes--I think people will ask for his head next year.Unless WiiU becomes $$$ printing machine of course.

3D fad seems to be over(did anybody even mention 3D at E3?) so Nintendo is left with a screen that draws more power and is more expensive to produce than conventional screen.

Expensive handheld device + shitty battery life...not good
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: T-Short on June 29, 2012, 05:26:27 AM
rofl I have been using two sticks since like 1998, guv. sony made the mistake of giving psp one stick, and rectified this by giving vita two sticks.

This is an interesting parallel, because I seem to remember a lot of people whining to Sony wanting them to put a second stick on the PSP as well. And groaning when all those PSP revisions came out with... ONLY ONE STICK.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 05:30:22 AM
This is an interesting parallel, because I seem to remember a lot of people whining to Sony wanting them to put a second stick on the PSP as well. And groaning when all those PSP revisions came out with... ONLY ONE STICK.
Yeah that was pretty shitty. I despised the claw, playing through MGS and all the MonHuns physically hurt my soul. After the Go came out though I decided to say fuck it and just troll the whole situation so I can at least get *something* positive out of it.
Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 29, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
This is an interesting parallel, because I seem to remember a lot of people whining to Sony wanting them to put a second stick on the PSP as well. And groaning when all those PSP revisions came out with... ONLY ONE STICK.

You know what, it really is. Most of the arguments for the inclusion of a second stick cite the PS1 dual shock situation, but completely sidestep the PSP. Between the two companies and those two scenarios, Nintendo may come across as the more cooperative company. Who woulda thunk it!

(I'm having flashbacks of a raging Eel when the Go! was announced. I guess not much has changed since then lol)
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 05:47:04 AM
Biggest troll for me was the first time I saw the PSP Go slide open. There is an indentation RIGHT THERE for a second nub. From the video i saw it looked like a second nub, only for it to be fucking select and start.

raged so hard that day lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 05:52:41 AM
I bet Sony now regrets for not releasing PSPF stick,they would made tons of $$$ on some cheap plastic shit.

I would get one
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: frod on June 29, 2012, 06:55:21 AM
Bitter? No. In the same way a company like valve has earned goodwill with me over the last 5 years Nintendo has shot their reputation to shit in the last 8 years or so. I'm naturally going to give a shit company more grief than one that is sporadically shit. This isn't bitterness.

most of your work in this thread isn't directed at Nintendo corp though.  :P
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 07:23:58 AM
3D seems to have pretty much stalled outside of the cinema, thankfully so.

most of your work in this thread isn't directed at Nintendo corp though.  :P
I feel EA are minutes away from a distinguished mentally-challenged thing so I will soon be spreading the scorn more evenly :'(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 29, 2012, 07:56:21 AM
Biggest troll for me was the first time I saw the PSP Go slide open. There is an indentation RIGHT THERE for a second nub. From the video i saw it looked like a second nub, only for it to be fucking select and start.

raged so hard that day lol

:lol shaka did a photoshop mockup with the second stick

everyone was all WTF SORNY that day

i just bought one for $50 btw :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 29, 2012, 08:31:47 AM
I kind of want a PSP Go, can you get a new for cheap because they are selling em for like $200.00 new now :'(
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 29, 2012, 08:37:04 AM
Gamestop has them for $70 used in store, $80 "refurbished/recharged" (whatever the fuck that means) on their site. I traded in a couple of games and brought a used one down to $50.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 29, 2012, 08:39:35 AM
Gamestop has them for $70 used in store, $80 "refurbished/recharged" (whatever the fuck that means) on their site. I traded in a couple of games and brought a used one down to $50.

Taken out of the box played during work hours, handled with cheeto lathered hands, cleaned off and repackaged.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: tiesto on June 29, 2012, 08:59:34 AM
Gamestop has them for $70 used in store, $80 "refurbished/recharged" (whatever the fuck that means) on their site. I traded in a couple of games and brought a used one down to $50.

Taken out of the box played during work hours, handled with cheeto lathered hands, cleaned off and repackaged.

No, that's what Gamestop calls "new".
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 29, 2012, 09:01:34 AM
Gamestop has them for $70 used in store, $80 "refurbished/recharged" (whatever the fuck that means) on their site. I traded in a couple of games and brought a used one down to $50.

Taken out of the box played during work hours, handled with cheeto lathered hands, cleaned off and repackaged.

No, that's what Gamestop calls "new".

You got a point :lol, fuck you Gamestop.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 29, 2012, 09:05:22 AM
Gamestop has them for $70 used in store, $80 "refurbished/recharged" (whatever the fuck that means) on their site. I traded in a couple of games and brought a used one down to $50.

Taken out of the box played during work hours, handled with cheeto lathered hands, cleaned off and repackaged.

I doubt it was used at all. PSP Go is a dud. Right there with Vita.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: The Sceneman on June 29, 2012, 09:34:57 AM
whats funny is I am still waiting to upgrade my OG pink DS phat I bought in 2005. The new 3ds could tip me over! But this thing still works great. i've beaten a bazillion games on it and it's still going strong.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: demi on June 29, 2012, 09:41:01 AM
But you wont be able to use your piracy cart. They just released an update that killed a bunch.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 09:50:01 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480527

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Nintendo E3 conference was so bad. Two days ago, I wondered how Steve Jobs would have done it. And here is the result.
I don't own a blog, otherwise I would have linked to it. Hope the mods will let me host it here :)

Enjoy the read!

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Welcome everyone.

This is a day I’ve been looking forward to for two years. Every once in a while, a unique product comes along and changes everything. And Nintendo has been – well, first of all, one’s very fortunate if you get to work on just one of these in your career.
Nintendo’s been very fortunate. It’s been able to introduce a few of these.
In 2004, we introduced the Nintendo DS. It didn’t just change Nintendo, it changed the whole gaming industry. With the first mass market touchscreen interface, DS allowed people from 4 to 77 to play videogames. The result? DS sold more than any console ever released.

In 2006, we introduced the Nintendo Wii and we brought motion gaming to the world. To this day, Nintendo sold 96 millions wii consoles, 30% more than our closest rival. We sold 200 millions wiimotes. Over 250 millions miis avatars have been created. Wii Sports is the most played party game in the history of videogames, with an estimated billion of people who played it at a friend’s, a family gathering or a public place.

Well, today, we’re introducing three incredible products of this class.
The first one is a GamePad merging touchscreen, motion and classic controls.
The second is a game changing tablet, opening a new window into game worlds
And the third is a new HD console with a built in social network

So, three things, a GamePad, merging the best innovations ever created by Nintendo; a game changing dual screen set up; and a breakthrough new social console.

An ultimate GamePad, a dual screen set up, and a social console. These are not three separate products, this is one product, and we are calling it Wii U.

Today, Nintendo is going to reinvent the videogame market again.

Now, you know, one of the pioneers of the IT industry, Alan Kay, has had a lot of great quotes throughout the years. And I ran across one of them recently that explains how we look at this. Explains why we go about doing things the way we do, cause we love software. And here’s the quote: “People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.” You know, Alan said this 30 years ago, and this is how we feel about it. And so we’re bringing software to a dual screen console like it’s never been done before. It’s five years ahead of anything on the market.

The second thing we’re doing is we’re learning from the Wii, and the wiimotes.
You know, we’re gonna ship our 100 millionth Wii this year, and that’s a lot of 10s of millions of people that know how to use a wiimote.
Right?
So you just take a wiimote in hand, and you know how to play.
You’re gonna do the same thing with Wii U. It recognizes the wiimote you already have at home. Day one, when you get the Wii U, you’ll be able to play multiplayer games with your wiimotes. The system will also be backwards compatible with your Wii games, and other peripherals such as your balance board.

Third thing I wanna talk about is design. Let me introduce you with the Wii U system. It’s a bit bigger than our previous Wii console. And it’s much, much more powerful. It’s the first Nintendo HD console ever. The Wii U console can stream beautiful graphics on both your HDTV and the Wii U GamePad. This is what GamePad looks like.
We’ve designed something wonderful for your hand, just wonderful.
It’s the perfect fusion of the best Nintendo controllers of these last 25 years. Touchscreen. Motion. Classic controls. It’s got everything, engineered in the most elegant way.

Let’s start with the 6.2 inch resistive touchscreen. It’s really big. You can use it to write notes on a virtual keyboard, draw paintings, browse the web, watch TV. We’ll have tons of apps and informations here at your fingertips.

And of course you will use the touchscreen in games. All kinds of games. So, let’s go ahead and have a look. Here is Rayman Legends, a gorgeous Wii U exclusive. As you can see I’m using the touchscreen to play Rayman with my friend John who’s standing next to me. John will use a wiimote. With the touchscreen on the GamePad, I’m performing totally different actions than him. See that? It’s like having 2 games in one. This is what we call asymmetric gameplay. It’s a groundbreaking innovation that will make people from all horizons want to play together. With Wii U control options, core gamers will be able to enjoy challenging games with more casual gamers, that mainly play on smartphones or tablets. If you have young brothers, cousins; if you are a father with young kids. You can now play your favorite games with them. It’s a fantastic social experience. Actually, this is how we envision videogames.

Now what I wanna do is show you the GamePad can work in parallel with 4 other wiimotes or classic controllers. Up to 5 players can play together on Wii U. Let’s see how it works. Here, you can see me play a fantastic launch title, New Super Mario Bros U with 4 people. I’m using the tablet to help my friends… or make their game harder. Look at this, it's seamless. By design, Wii U offers the most ambitious set up on the market for local multiplayer. Asymmetric gameplay, 5 players supported, ability to reuse your wiimotes. It’s the new console king to host family and party games.

So now, the touchscreen will also be used in single player games, in the most creative ways. Let’s have a look at Zombi U from Ubisoft, a fantastic game making great use of Wii U unique features. See how the action displayed on the GamePad is different than what happens on the TV? Here you can see me scan the surroundings. Hey here comes a Zombi! Hats of to Ubisoft, the way they designed this game with the dual screen set up, it’s very, very clever. Adds a great level of tension compared to a single screen experience.

DS and 3DS owners know it already, having a second screen is much appreciated to display a map or an inventory. It can be used to add more command options. Or select tactics in a sports game. It enhances gameplay. It also gets rid of annoying things, such as the need to pause the game to make certain selections. Also, why clutter the TV screen with HUD informations when you can display it on the GamePad? Developpers will have endless possibilities to take advantage of this additional screen. You’ll see plenty of fresh, new ideas applied in Wii U launch games on the show floor. And we’ve only scratched the surface.

Now, we’ve also got some stuff you can’t see. The GamePad has a built-in 3-axis accelerometer and 3-axis gyroscope, same technologies that equip your Motion+ Wiimotes. Here you can see me move inside a scene in a software called Panorama View. See how I move to point the GamePad above head height, down at the ground, swiveling on the spot to see behind? It gives a full insight into the happenings of the video. The change in perspective is realistic, as if actually being there at the time and simply turning around. This is made possible with the sensors. This offers developers tremendous opportunities to make you feel immersed in the games. Imagine using it in a game with a cockpit view, or underwater for scuba diving. Isn’t that great? Yeah.

Then we have speakers built in the GamePad. Wii U offers a 5.1 surround sound, but we thought it would be even better if you could also get additional audio information, right from the controller you hold in your hand. So we made it. GamePad has stereo speakers. By the way, GamePad can be used as a standalone screen in some games. Let’s say you want to play a game while someone in your room wants to watch TV. No problem. Here I am playing Trine 2 Director’s cut right from the GamePad, while the TV is displaying a football game. The GamePad streams content from our new Wii U console. It’s not magic. It’s an exclusive Nintendo technology that is completely lag free under a decent distance. Lag free. This is the real deal. Not the pale copy some of our competitors try to push with inevitable, game breaking lag. To come back and close on the sound topic, we’ve got a headset jack, all your headphones fit right in. John can watch his football game, while I play on the GamePad with my headphone in perfect conditions. Isn’t that cool?

There, we have a microphone and a front-facing camera. Let’s launch a video chat with my friend Mike. “Hi Mike, how are you?” See, holding the camera in my hand helps me have my face displayed in full screen, and not as a tiny element at a distance. It looks great. I can have the video chat displayed on the GamePad, and keep doing other things on the TV screen. Very useful. Wii U will be equiped with a stand, so that you can lay the GamePad on your table. Having the microphone in the GamePad, so close to the mouth will benefit voice commands recognition in future games. Nintendo is the first console manufacturer to include a camera as a standard in all consoles we will sell. Each household with a Wii U will be able to videochat with their friends who also have a Wii U. Very easy to use, very cool.
Next, buttons. Let me say few words about buttons. It’s an interesting topic and I will be frank with you. No matter how successful we were with the Wii, we lost some 3rd party support and we lost wome gamers, because the wiimote could not play all games designed around a complete set of buttons. You couldn’t play all your favorite games the way you were used to. So we heard you, we wanted to build the best controller ever, and I’m pleased to say the GamePad offers dual clickable analog sticks, 4 face buttons, L/R bumper buttons and ZL/ZR trigger buttons. We also have a fantastic D-pad. And a stylus. And rumble. Our controller can handle any game configuration you can think of, and then some.

You can’t see it but we have bluetooth support. It’s very useful. For instance, WiiFit U will include a pedometer, that will communicate with the GamePad via bluetooth, so that you can transfer your walking information. It’s a great motivational tool. How do I do this? Well I don’t need to power on the TV, launch the console and boot the WiiFit game. Studies we ran showed some of our consumers stopped using their balance board, because it was not enough convenient compared to their traditional balance. We solved this issue with WiiFit U. I can now simply grab the GamePad, touch the WiFitU icon, and… that’s it. It’s that simple. I’m now ready to measure my weight or transfer pedometer informations. Very, very easy. As WiiFit U tracks weight evolution for all family members, we think you now have the most useful and practical way to reuse your balance board.

Last but not least, the GamePad supports NFC, near field communication. This is a new technology with lots of potential. This is a forward thinking move to include it in the GamePad, and you will learn more about it in the near future.

With all these embedded technologies, GamePad remains incredibly light. It’s lighter than most tablets out there, at about 500 grams. It’s pretty unbelievable, and I think when you have a chance to get your hand on it, you’ll agree, we have reinvented the controller.

So, now, let’s take a look at the built in social network as part of Wii U.
Nintendo has had some great success with online, such as in Mario Kart Wii.
We reckon we also had room for improvement. We felt we were late with what our competitors offered, and so we brainstormed on how we could close this gap.
You know, thinking out of the box is what Nintendo excels at, this is why our company is 100 years old. And so, instead of hastily copying our competitor online structures, we took our time, we observed market trends. And today, we think we’ve got a winner. We are building a whole new online console paradigm. And so it’s my pleasure to introduce you Miiverse, a pretty spectacular idea.

In a nutshell, Mii-verse is a key component in our online offering, it is a way to be social and to discover things online. You can certainly do multiplayer online, but we're really focusing on community and sharing and discovery because that's something that's new and unique and fun, we think, that Nintendo's uniquely qualified to bring.
MiiVerse is short for Mii Universe. As with our last Nintendo hardware releases, you’ll create your Mii when you first boot up the console, a newly high-definition representation of yourself on screen. Here is where things get interesting: from the home page, the place in which you select which game you’d like to play, Mii characters of people using that game will appear gathered underneath. If you struggle, you simply open the home menu, open the chat area of the game which you’re playing and you’ll see help and advice made by other people stuck in the same location. Within seconds you can go from playing a single player game to playing a game with the help of strangers.
When Miiverse is integrated into your gameplay, new breakthroughs happen. Gamers can talk about their overall progress and even challenge each other as they play.
For the first time in gaming history, the “massively multiplayer” is going to be a key part of any gaming experience.

Mii-verse will work across every game, including those without online components of any kind. Developpers can put the MiiVerse in their games. Let me who you an example of how it works. Here on the screen, you can see how we use it in New Super Mario Bros U. Not only will you be able to see what others are saying … but you’ll also be able to connect right within the game.

Wouldn’t it be great if you were able to call up and interact with this Nintendo console service on your smartphone or tablet? Well we’ve got it. Somebody away from the game - stuck on the other side of the country bored on a train – can use 3DS, PC, or any web-enabled mobile device, to aid your progress without needing to be at the console.

So we are building our own social network and we think this is a pretty big deal.

Now, I wanna take a minute and highlight another fantastic social feature.
We see Wii U as a family device, and so it will support multiple user accounts on the same console. There's actually twelve different accounts you can have on any one piece of hardware. So when you grab the GamePad, first thing you do is you login with your mii. From this moment you’ll have an experience that’s tailor made for you, with different games featured, different friends, or your own message box.

You will love this, you will be able to exchange drawings and messages with your relatives in your home, with your friends in a dorm... It’s a great communication tool.

In addition to making Wii U a formidable gaming machine, the Gamepad also presents opportunities for you to make it part of your daily life. The controller has TV remote capabilities. You can power on your TV, change channel, switch to Wii U, all from your GamePad. Isn’t that awesome? And the size of the GamePad screen gives it great multimedia potential. It will make it apart of your living rooms, even when the Wii U is off.

In addition to Netflix, the console's streaming video options will include Hulu Plus, YouTube and Amazon Video, that will take advantage of the integrated second-screen experience. Nintendo is all about user experience, and we are building something incredible. We want people to reach for their GamePad before their TV, before their iPad. With the Wii U, our ultimate goal is that this might be the most looked-at screen in the house, the screen on the GamePad itself. That’s our goal.

About digital content, you saw we take it very seriously with our Miiverse mobile strategy. Our goal is that, in the future, you will be able to purchase games found in the Miiverse from that smartphone or tablet device and, by the time you arrive home, that game will already have arrived on your Wii U system through SpotPass. For the Wii U hardware system, from the beginning, we've planned to make it possible for people to release their games as either an optical disc or as digital content... There are no technical restrictions.

Let me show you one of these titles, it’s called Trined 2 : Director’s Cut, and you will be able to download it from our digital store at launch. It’s absolutely gorgeous. Director's Cut features the "developers' vision of Trine 2 fully formed, including the original game with numerous enhancements, such as the new party mode, Magic Mayhem. Magic Mayhem was designed specifically for Wii U and creates a more challenging atmosphere for the existing multiplayer mode.

As you can see, I can play it only on the controller with the TV off. It’s so easy, so easy to start a game right from the GamePad. No need to power on your TV. Just grab your GamePad and you’re ready to play. All the 2D games you saw today will benefit from this feature. Titles developped around a dual screen set up will still require the TV to be on, for obvious reason.

Now Trine 2 is not the only Director’s cut game that will come out on Wii U. We are very pleased to announce Ninja Gaiden 3, Batman AC and Mass Effect 3 Director Cuts editions will be available at launch. These are enhanced versions of the games some of you have played already. Most of you missed these though, and now is the perfect time to discover it on Wii U.

Ubisoft is using the GamePad in Assassin’s Creed 3, which looks incredible on Wii U. Look at this video. This is the first time Assassin's Creed appears on a Nintendo console, and we are very happy with that.

Ubisoft will also release 3 party games at launch: Just Dance 4, Rabbids Land and Sports Connections. All these will play like no other previous games, thanks to the GamePad.

We have 27 launch games on the show floor and we won’t have time to cover them all during this conference. On top of these, many more Nintendo, western and japanese 3rd party titles will be unveiled between this summer and this fall.

Here is one game coming from Japan I can show you. It’s called Project P-100 and it’s amazing. Project P-100's the debut Wii U offering from Platinum Games, and it's the latest title from master action director Hideki Kamiya. The touchscreen gets a real workout. Unite attacks are triggered by sketching a shape on the Wii U's touchscreen. Draw a circle, and you'll turn your heroes into a giant red fist. Draw a line, and they'll come together to form a gleaming blue sword. The whole thing feels as precise as you might hope. It took just fifteen seconds of the ten-minute demo I played to fall in love with what Platinum's created.

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Now what about Nintendo titles at launch? So far we showed you Wii Fit U, and New Super Mario Bros U. Combined, these two games sold 70 millions on Wii, SEVENTY. MILLIONS. We want our consumers to know we will keep giving them what they want. And make it better. Much better, as you can expect.

Now let me introduce you to a new magical Nintendo game. It’s called Nintendo Land and it’s probably one of the more fun games you will play on the show floor of E3. NintendoLand will serve as the new system's version of Wii Sports ; a killer app that can immediately convey the appeal of the system's new controller. NintendoLand does a fantastic job of demonstrating what can be done with the touchscreen-equipped GamePad.

Nintendo Land takes players through a virtual theme park filled with attractions/mini-games that are based off of classic Nintendo franchises. There will be 12 mini games in all, and 5 are playable at the show. All these are crafted to be simple pick-up-and-play experiences. They still provide a great amount of depth and replay value to casual and hardcore gamers alike.

Each of the mini-games included as part of Nintendo Land demonstrate different mechanics. Let’s have a closer look on these:

Donkey Kong's Crash Course is a physics-based platform-racer where you use the GamePad's gyroscope to tilt your cart through a maze of girders and platforms to reach the end goal as fast as possible. The TV screen provides a complete overview of the map, with the GamePad providing a closer look at your particular location.

The Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest showcases how three people can be playing the exact same scene and having entirely different experiences. As Wiimote controlled Link-constumed Mii's attack foes with their swords, the Wii U controller based player uses the screen and motion controls to fire arrows as a ranged support character. It plays as good as it looks, I love it.

Animal Crossing: Sweet Day is my favorite. In most games, communication between players is rarely utilized, but Animal Crossing: Sweet Day makes this element of gameplay instrumentally important. Sweet Day features up to four candy-loving animals – controlled using Wii Remotes – trying to steal 50 pieces of candy from a candy orchard being protected by two guards – controlled using the Wii U GamePad. Each controller provides a unique experience for the players.The strategic aspect of Sweet Day is sure to appeal to gamers of all ages and degree of experience.When you bring friends over to show them the Wii U, this is bound to be the one game you will definitely want to show them.

Takamaru's Ninja Castle is a modern reinvention of the NES's Duck Hunt. With this attraction you have to swipe your finger across the Wii U GamePad screen in order to unleash ninja stars with the tilt of the GamePad controlling aim. he quickness of the swipe determines how fast the ninja stars fly toward enemies. You will be able to rack up combo points by successfully taking out multiple ninjas in a row. This attraction is a surprising challenge, which demonstrates another unique use of the Wii U GamePad.

Luigi's Ghost Mansion is another favorite of mine. It borrows a few ideas from the Miyamoto designed Pac-Man Vs. that appeared on the GameCube. Four players control their Miis on-screen with their wiimote while the fifth player controls a ghost with the GamePad. The twist: The ghost is invisible on the main T.V. screen. The ghost can only be seen on the GamePad screen. The object of the game is for the four players to survive for five minutes, or destroy the ghost using their flashlights. The ghost has an opposite goal: to touch the four players before time runs out. It’s a very simple concept, a next generation of hide and seek, which you could never play if you were limited to just one screen.

I think you can tell a classic multiplayer game by its ability to instantly unite strangers. Nintendo Land is that game. Get a group together, and Nintendo Land will genuinely make you laugh. Every person who tested Ninteno Land loved it and had a really great time. It’s probably the best mini game compilation we’ve ever done at Nintendo. If you’re willing to give Nintendo Land a chance, you’ll have one hell of a time.

Nintendo Land is a great way to introduce casual gamers to our core franchises. It is going to more effectively convert casual players to more kinds of games by virtue of its sampling of a number of beloved Nintendo franchises.

Speaking of which, let me end this presentation with a cherished Nintendo franchise, that will be available at launch.

It’s my pleasure you introduce you to Pikmin 3. Wow. Look at this, isn’t that gorgeous? The long-awaited return of Nintendo's strategy title works brilliantly on Wii U. The Wii U's HD output amplifies all the Pikmin-ness of the series: the forest looks more lush and beautiful. We are using tilt-shift effect to make the environment really look like a very tiny realistic garden.

Pikmin 3 can be played with either the GamePad or Wiimote-and-Nunchuk combo. On the Wii U GamePad you will always see the overall map of the level. You can touch the map and scroll very quickly over the environment. You can also play the game using only the GamePad.

It truly feels like a classic Nintendo game, everything just comes together perfectly. Pikmin 3 promises to be an unbelievably welcome sequel and an outstanding addition to the early Wii U library.

And it’s only the beginning. Expect your favorite Nintendo franchises to receive the same amazing Wii U treatment.

Nintendo’s basic strategy is to expand the gaming population. We would like as many people as possible, regardless of age, gender and game play experience, to have access to our games. We want you wii owners to upgrade with Wii U, keep your wii peripherals, and experience franchises you love like never before. You will discover new fantastic titles, new genres, new clever ways to play games. And we also want PC, x360 and PS3 owners to join us, and get a fresh gaming experience with Wii U. It is so different, it is certainly the best complementary console you could wish for.

We feel like Wii U's launch lineup has a bit of everything for everyone.

We are at the end of this conference now, and we only gave you a glimpse of what’s to come for the Wii U by the time it launches. That is because we want to surprise you… and our competitors. We’re very excited about this.

You know, there’s an old Wayne Gretzky quote that I love.
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.
And we’ve always tried to do that at Nintendo.
Since the very very beginning.
And we always will. So thank you very very much for being a part of this.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 29, 2012, 09:53:04 AM
PSP Go is a pretty awesome piece of hardware, would have been great without weak battery life, bullshit proprietary memory, and a fairly priced, well-populated online library of titles. Good thing they learned their lesson there!
Title: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 29, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 29, 2012, 10:09:27 AM
:lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
rofl I have been using two sticks since like 1998, guv. sony made the mistake of giving psp one stick, and rectified this by giving vita two sticks.

This is an interesting parallel, because I seem to remember a lot of people whining to Sony wanting them to put a second stick on the PSP as well. And groaning when all those PSP revisions came out with... ONLY ONE STICK.

To be fair, I was saying the same shit about the original psp. Lack of second stick was a huge oversight. The difference here is that Sony didn't release an add on for a second stick, half assing it. No, they waited an implemented a full on second stick in its sequel. The differences between these two situations are huge, if only because of the CPP's very existence or whatever the fuck it's called: the fact that Nintendo, intent on refusing to admit they were wrong, release a second stick that you ADD ON TO THE SIDE OF THE SYSTEM instead of releasing a second iteration WITH a second stick included. How are these situations remotely the same? Nintendo went the cheap way, the Nintendo way.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: cool breeze on June 29, 2012, 11:10:42 AM
rofl I have been using two sticks since like 1998, guv. sony made the mistake of giving psp one stick, and rectified this by giving vita two sticks.

This is an interesting parallel, because I seem to remember a lot of people whining to Sony wanting them to put a second stick on the PSP as well. And groaning when all those PSP revisions came out with... ONLY ONE STICK.

What's worse is that the way everyone wanted them to go about it is how PSP games are handled on the Vita.  Include an OS option to remap the right stick to d-pad, face buttons, or mirror the left stick.  Then the newer games could include an alternate option for dual analog.  That's more or less how the PS1 handled it.  Dual analog was only required or standard for a few games.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2012, 11:20:44 AM
They are both pretty bad options haha
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 29, 2012, 11:23:11 AM
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Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: frod on June 29, 2012, 11:24:10 AM
Honestly Himu, I'd rather have the add-on than nothing at all.  Not including it in the XL is derp, but not as derp as spending six years shoehorning games meant for two sticks onto one with no other option.  I'll take the "half-ass" solution over not fucking doing anything if those are the only choices we have.

Especially when they're filling their partner platform with FPS franchises ripe for porting.

Nintendo clearly don't give a shit about FPS. I'm kind of surprised the wagglepad even has a second stick.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 29, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
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Stupid, stupid, stupid. For fucks sake there is a perfect place for the second stick under the button diamond on the right hand side!
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: T-Short on June 29, 2012, 12:10:18 PM
rofl I have been using two sticks since like 1998, guv. sony made the mistake of giving psp one stick, and rectified this by giving vita two sticks.

This is an interesting parallel, because I seem to remember a lot of people whining to Sony wanting them to put a second stick on the PSP as well. And groaning when all those PSP revisions came out with... ONLY ONE STICK.

To be fair, I was saying the same shit about the original psp. Lack of second stick was a huge oversight. The difference here is that Sony didn't release an add on for a second stick, half assing it. No, they waited an implemented a full on second stick in its sequel. The differences between these two situations are huge, if only because of the CPP's very existence or whatever the fuck it's called: the fact that Nintendo, intent on refusing to admit they were wrong, release a second stick that you ADD ON TO THE SIDE OF THE SYSTEM instead of releasing a second iteration WITH a second stick included. How are these situations remotely the same? Nintendo went the cheap way, the Nintendo way.

What do you mean, "waited"? They released, what, four or five PSP revisions after the first one? And they didn't add a second stick. Like Oscar said: Nintendo at least provided an alternative.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 29, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
but then where would i rest my doritos, trent?

think, for fuck's sakes

Nintendo™ to announce Potato Chip Holder Pro™ add-on for 3DS™ XL® Jumbo®.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 02:01:48 PM
Nintendo fuck up---no second stick in XL,optional
Sony fuck up--no second stick at all

Sony loses


I wonder what Sony execs are thinking watching 3DS,probably  :duh
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 29, 2012, 02:04:40 PM
When the PSP was out, no other handhelds had a second stick.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2012, 02:10:10 PM
exactly.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
I dont think a second optional stick would have worked for the PSP, there is just no good place to put it. It would have needed it built in as a revision.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
There was nothing stopping them from releasing some Frankenstick cradle.

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 29, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
Can you imagine the analog nub addon for the PSP 1000? That shit would be Lynxx size.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 29, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
Why the hell is dual analog up on some pedestal anyway.  The obsession is weird.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
There was nothing stopping them from releasing some Frankenstick cradle.
Wouldnt have worked, not just wouldn't it have fitted anywhere I dont believe the psp even has an expansion port capable of delivering what is needed without some weird control delay

IR latency = 1ms
PSP control latency is ~1ms
PSP USB 2.0 latency is ~5 ms

Best solution for the PSP was a revision, but sony fucked that up.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 02:40:55 PM
Oh wait, I just looked at my psp out of curiosity, this thing has an IR port? The fuck is it used for? :lol
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
1 ms second latency?

That is nothing,best PS360(30 fps) games have like 100ms latency(without TV).
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 29, 2012, 02:54:38 PM
Just talking how long it takes the board to register a button press, nothing to do with when it actually appears on the screen. PS3 is around 40ms, XBOX I have no idea what standard they use for their joypads. I dunno, i'm thinking about this from a code perspective because it is interesting (i've never coded something with multiple input timings) my first reaction would be to build in an artificial lag into the button presses so it doesn't register the sequence of inputs wrong, seeing as the PS3 in particular does 40ms fine, i dont see an issue. Human reaction time is what 15ms average right? So I'm probably over thinking a really dumb thing haha
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: bork on June 29, 2012, 03:14:00 PM

So?  When the 3DS came out, no other handhelds had a second stick either.

Times change...this is the kind of control set-up that one would expect in 2011.  Mobile touch screen devices using the on-screen "dual stick" layout were also out.

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Doesn't meant it wasn't both obviously useful and stupid to leave out.  The PSP had tons of games that were basically conceived as "let's do a PS2 game, but handheld!", so it immediately and sorely stuck out there, almost as immediately as the lack of analog stuck out with Mario 64 being a launch title on the DS. 

The lack of an analog stick on the DS was ridiculous as well.  Nintendo always seems to stay one step behind Sony in this regard.

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You can give them a pass on the original model, because if nothing else, Sony has demonstrated they are probably the biggest fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellows of all the first parties after SEGA bowed out, but even by the time the 2000 came around, there was loud criticism about it, and games (even their own) suffering for its omission.  By the time the PSP Go arrived with a damn spot for the second analog nub RIGHT THERE, it was clear Sony was deliberately sitting on it to use as a selling point for what would become the Vita.

I don't see how any sane individual can suggest it was better to have no second analog stick at all than a stupid add-on that nevertheless works.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 29, 2012, 04:04:48 PM
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Times change...this is the kind of control set-up that one would expect in 2011.  Mobile touch screen devices using the on-screen "dual stick" layout were also out.

That is not a good excuse,people were moaning for second analog since the day of PSP release.Sony had good 5-6 years to correct that and they failed.

And since when dual analog invention has become some 2011 thing?

It's kinda pointless to debate about this now,but still
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 29, 2012, 04:48:47 PM
but then where would i rest my doritos?
Hmm, this is a valid concern.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 29, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Doritos issue :
Just get a plectrum holder and stick it down the side of the 3DS

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Part of this whole sequence of bullshittery stems back to the Iwata/Capcom/reason for CPP

"They came to us right after MH3rd P shipped"
"They wanted to put MH3G on 3DS"
"we wanted to make the ultimate MH machine so we have made the CPP"

If it was such a big deal for them to release a panic add on then surely in designing the XL this might have come up given MH4 is going to be the biggest game in Japan in the next 2 years?


I suspect it's more to do with not confusing the userbase and all that and, to be perfectly honest, i don't really give a shit about the second stick on the 3DS XL because if there's one thing that's completely apparent is that the games i'm playing/enjoying on the 3DS simply don't need it and for FPS etc it looks like the Vita will get , um, a couple before it gets shi/bi'ed

If Nintendo did release a MH edition 3DS XL with the second CP on it for MH4? I'd laugh at how huge their balls are. One wheelbarrow per knacker for Iwata. Rename to Iknackers
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 30, 2012, 03:02:54 AM
Oh man, I remember Sakurai's Kutaragi-esque quote about why they didn't support the two analog stick thing.  :lol

Oh wait, I just looked at my psp out of curiosity, this thing has an IR port? The fuck is it used for? :lol

Nothing, which is why it was removed in all future revisions.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: maxy on June 30, 2012, 03:21:15 AM
This should look fine on 3DSXL

http://www.4gamer.net/games/140/G014036/20120630007/SS/004.jpg

 :rofl
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 30, 2012, 03:23:23 AM
That ground is PSP-textures level of ass. The rest looks nice, and got a nice bump in the color saturation department. I bet it was a requirement to pass Ninty's whimsical approval process.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 30, 2012, 03:37:19 AM
.... this straight up looks like a PSP port

Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Takao on June 30, 2012, 04:40:53 AM
I think the character models and the draw distance are nice, but the ground is laughably bad.
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Momo on June 30, 2012, 04:59:08 AM
I'm going to have to relearn the claw :yuck
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Purple Filth on June 30, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
I'm going to have to relearn the claw :yuck

if they use the control scheme like 3G you can actually use a section of the bottom screen to deal with the camera (it basically has a virtual version of the dpad that you can move around).
Title: Re: 3DS XL Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on June 30, 2012, 02:11:51 PM
I'm going to have to relearn the claw :yuck
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