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Title: Grunge sucks dick. SHOEGAZE!!!
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Grunge sucks balls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0dJqlvOSq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3diz8I0AVVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Hu-tx1urg
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 05:47:25 PM
ESCHATON.

Let me suck your dick.
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Post by: Robo on August 14, 2012, 05:51:23 PM
Okay.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 14, 2012, 05:54:52 PM
I once tried to listen to Loveless and it sucked more dick than Himu.
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 05:57:14 PM
Good. It's nice to have standards. Something Loveless has. Can't say that for SUPERUNKNOWN. Superunknown wouldn't be able to approach a pussy or a cock and it certainly won't its mouth on an orifice. 
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 14, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
I like Loveless but am not really sure I want to explore the genre as I kind of doubt I'll find a whole lot of interest to me
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Post by: D3RANG3D on August 14, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
OP Shit Post

That is all.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 14, 2012, 06:05:51 PM
Good. It's nice to have standards. Something Loveless has. Can't say that for SUPERUNKNOWN. Superunknown wouldn't be able to approach a pussy or a cock and it certainly won't its mouth on an orifice. 

I don't even know how to make sense of this.
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 06:07:11 PM
:lol I was hoping you'd come up with a good rebuttal. I don't know :lol
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Post by: Pringo on August 14, 2012, 06:34:54 PM
Shoegaze is awesome. Big post comin' though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8paDhfGQH4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPmQ1OWt17Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Udoa1eaXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxRrIGRUazE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRiMe9EmWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdF4lfdd2NM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWQWX4xmImA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE2JM31wnm0
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Post by: Pringo on August 14, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdWq7gY5pAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVhNi5cU8mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwUdO2B9x1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc-F5VTBJyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzOZakwgntQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgB__YratE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4itzHRpltQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQr7P4CZVgE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvDwXBMvQc
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Post by: Timber on August 14, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
love no more sorry
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Post by: Eric P on August 14, 2012, 07:24:30 PM
ewgaze
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Post by: Andrew. on August 14, 2012, 07:29:22 PM
These bands arent even grunge bands you fuckin douchenozzles.

And I know none of you would dare put Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Mad Season, or STP up there. (These are grunge bands)

So all of you need to get the fuck out. The Verve is a grunge band? Are you fucking serious?
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Post by: Timber on August 14, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
Okay I'll get the fuck out now  :'(
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Post by: Timber on August 14, 2012, 07:38:20 PM
We're sorry for the thread, Andrew.
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Post by: Andrew. on August 14, 2012, 07:40:36 PM
Well who or what the dick is a SHOEGAZE

Im new here.
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Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2012, 07:52:28 PM
ESCHATON.

Let me suck your dick.

(http://i.minus.com/i3o0Gxdr8MIJK.gif)


:rofl Best use of gif
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Post by: TEEEPO on August 14, 2012, 08:30:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLzqGV4e5tY

the best thing to happen to shoegaze in years

and calling the cocteau twins shoegaze is equivalent to saying that the melvins are grunge
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
I've always been taught they're shoegaze. I'll check out whirr. also, this thread is bonertown.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 14, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
not a single mention of yo la tengo? nerds itt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfYEdsrHdcg
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
Damn Whirr's Distressor is FIRE.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 14, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW2jOA6uIaM

also :bow deerhunter
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 10:09:36 PM
not a single mention of yo la tengo? nerds itt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfYEdsrHdcg

:bow methodis
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 14, 2012, 10:17:17 PM
The Verve is closer to Oasis than to MBV.

all three are close to doo doo
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Post by: TEEEPO on August 14, 2012, 10:27:29 PM
Damn Whirr's Distressor is FIRE.

slowdive worship at its best :bow2

easily one of the best ep's to be released in the last few years, though that's not saying much since save for a few genres, artists either release youtube singles or albums nowadays. too bad their album couldn't reach the same heights :(
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Post by: Himu on August 14, 2012, 10:31:39 PM
It seems a bit long for an EP.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 14, 2012, 10:52:06 PM
I'm Trent Dole and I approve this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unuB_jZS1Xw
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Post by: DCharlieJP on August 15, 2012, 12:22:34 AM
Shoegazing was awesome - famously killed by NME etc with the whole "scene that celebrates itself" because members of some shoegazing bands turned out to see other shoegazing bands.

ah well....

<long boring story>
A group of us started an ill-fated, yet fun and largely terrible fanzine called Mind Your Decorum. It all sort of started by accident but it was a laugh. Because we didn't know what we were doing AT ALL, we started off with a lie/blag and managed to get an interview with Pop Will Eat Itself. Which is where we assumed it would end - we didn't even think we'd actually create a fanzine. In our stupidity, we called up the agent who we'd dealt with to sort out the interview to say "hey, thanks for sorting that out - it was great". The response was basically "... no one ever calls up to say thank you. lol" but because of that we started getting other bands that we -really- had no right to interview : Sleeper, The Charlatans, Gene, Therapy?, Ash, Catatonia, etc etc. It all got crazy a bit crazy... but anyways.... </long boring story>

i was a huge Catherine Wheel fan and i got to interview Rob and the band. I was pretty nervous as i'd met a few bands i'd liked and discovered to my horror that they were pricks. But Rob and co were amazingly fun and down to earth.

Anyways, Catherine Wheel managed to evolve all the way from Shoegazing to a more grunge-rock band and then, somewhat disappointingly, into straight up rock. Here's the progression anyways - there reamined good/great songs, but the direction changed.

The Start : rough shoegazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eqoPoTw1Fs

First Album : shoegazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IcMWFLlPyc

Second Album: heavier sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2DjlrlY-cs

Third Album : Poppy alt/rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pCp1NazgGo

Compilation of off cuts : edging more rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHRqvOF4KXQ

Fourth Album : Rock time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PmB3qs6lC0

The end : Rockity rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmuQKVRH2Bk

I am STUNNED by this piece of news though :

"The Big Takeover magazine named Adam and Eve its album of the year for 1997, with Radiohead's OK Computer at #2."

Basically - i think the cut off is Chrome. The rest get a bit patchy. As a rock band they were okay-to-good, but around Chrome they were pretty awesome. RIP Catherine Wheel. :(

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The Verve is closer to Oasis than to MBV.

pretty much - except for the first EP and , partly, album. All in the Mind could have slid onto "Isn't Anything?" - all you'd need to do is get Richard to mumble the lyrics.

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Post by: Himu on August 15, 2012, 12:36:43 AM
The Verve EP is totally shoegaze. But that's about it.The song I posted was from The Verve EP.
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on August 15, 2012, 12:39:50 AM
Some random favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYWXq4i0IoA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWt8jrAwds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWxboiBVKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B49G2-SQQrI
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Post by: DCharlieJP on August 15, 2012, 12:47:57 AM
Quote
The Verve EP is totally shoegaze. But that's about it.The song I posted was from The Verve EP.

shows you how good my memory is - i thought All in the Mind was the first EP but it's classed as a single (though it does predate Verve EP)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3GqfaOKBY


.... actually , scrub what i was saying. It's too traditional a song/tune to be on Isn't Anything? lol.

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Post by: Momo on August 15, 2012, 01:25:11 AM
NO YOU HIMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht672-wYelc

NO YOU
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Post by: tiesto on August 15, 2012, 09:08:34 AM
I never heard of Shoegaze at all in the 90's, and for a long time I thought it was more of a British thing... still have no idea what exactly defines the genre, it sounds like the indie rock that gets played on Sirius XM-U (in fact they sometimes play My Bloody Valentine).
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 15, 2012, 10:32:05 AM
Sirius XMU is pretty bad when left to their own random programming---they'll play the same tracks over and over again.  They're awesome when they do classic indie segments, album previews, and theme days
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Post by: BlueTsunami on August 15, 2012, 07:17:47 PM
I tend to fall on the dreamgaze/dreampop side of shoegaze. I like the effervescent vocals. You definitely get the grunge feel with traditional shoegaze.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHVB3FCWdY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mFUJQrr7cs

Cut from nearly the same cloth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laVM2e6Gg_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta5VO0vG2R8
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 15, 2012, 07:20:07 PM
I'm sorry Himumu, but everytime you create a thread like this, I feel like you're jumping on a (really old) bandwagon.
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Post by: Himu on August 15, 2012, 08:37:44 PM
You say that like it's a bad thing! Maybe I just want to troll Cajole and PD? You ever thought of that, huh?!
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 15, 2012, 10:12:29 PM
Also Oasis have the distinction of being possibly the only band whose big hit was significantly improved by Microsoft Songsmith, in an arrangement that unfortunately seems to have been purged from the web  :'(
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Post by: Pringo on August 15, 2012, 10:27:26 PM
Also Oasis have the distinction of being possibly the only band whose big hit was significantly improved by Microsoft Songsmith, in an arrangement that unfortunately seems to have been purged from the web  :'(

This one?

http://www.takeazap.com/video/1023/Classic-Hits-by-Microsoft-Songsmith-Wonderwall-by-Oasis (http://www.takeazap.com/video/1023/Classic-Hits-by-Microsoft-Songsmith-Wonderwall-by-Oasis)
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 16, 2012, 02:16:12 AM
Hey, you found it! So much better than the original version.

also, what a dumb video.