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Title: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 24, 2012, 01:05:12 PM
Final Fantasy Dimensions to Cost $28.99 (http://toucharcade.com/2012/08/24/gentlemen-start-your-whining-final-fantasy-dimensions-to-cost-nearly-30/)

:smug
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Momo on August 24, 2012, 01:06:14 PM
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Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 24, 2012, 01:14:32 PM
Good luck.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 24, 2012, 01:23:12 PM
I'm buying it because $30 aint shit for my $499 iPhone
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 24, 2012, 01:50:17 PM
A janky port of a years-old 16-bit featurephone cash-in is not a "real game."
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 24, 2012, 02:15:15 PM
Maybe when you guys get real jobs you'll understand.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 24, 2012, 02:23:31 PM
People like Demi was why I was makin scrilla back when I was workin at SQEX
Title: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 24, 2012, 02:36:54 PM
With that price I think it's legal to pirate it then not play it in protest.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 24, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
What. the. fuck. I'd pay $30 for a UMD release on the PSP, but not a digital download thingermajig.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: chronovore on August 24, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
They've got to recoup the costs on the Chinese-dev'd MMO fiasco somehow!
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 24, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
People like Demi was why I was makin scrilla back when I was workin at SQEX

Yea, you guys made good games. Hopefully the other guys will catch up.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 24, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
If demi didn't do a reasonably good job as admin and didn't have such an amusing fetish, I would be publicly lobbying for him to be shot.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Diunx on August 24, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
Looks like an ugly flash game.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 24, 2012, 07:48:11 PM
I sure hope they don't overcharge for TWEY. I'd actually buy that at maybe $10. I won't spend over $10 on anything digital though.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 24, 2012, 07:49:10 PM
Cuz you're a cheap schlub. My purchase of Final Fantasy Dimensions will tell Square Enix I want more, giving them the incentive to bring TWEWY overseas. And you can lick my tip as thanks for doing it.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 24, 2012, 07:49:57 PM
It's because they don't have boxes.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: treythemovie on August 24, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
Who the hell is going to pay $30 for an iOS game? At best a few people will pay the $2.99 for the 1st episode, get bored with it, and never touch it again.

smh @ Square not understanding iOS
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 25, 2012, 12:51:20 AM
I have no problem with paying $30, but it has to be an amazing game that controls incredibly with touch or will magically grow buttons on my iPad.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 25, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
Let's be honest, there's not a lot to do in Poland.   :'(
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 25, 2012, 10:02:41 AM
I think Borys clocked in over 100 hours for XII and XIII

Sounds like something I'd do when I was a poor kid who had maybe 1-2 games a year so you made the most of it.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 25, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
neither of those are 100 hour games unless you have asperger's

 :lol
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: tiesto on August 25, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
Let's be honest, there's not a lot to do in Poland.   :'(

I can think of a lot of things to do in Poland... but I guess if you're married you can't partake in those things :P
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Bebpo on August 26, 2012, 11:09:15 AM
BREAKING: Square does not give up on $18 iOS games

Quote
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/subaras...ix/en/new.html

TWEWY iOS

- Aug 27
- $18 for iPhone
- $20 for iPad
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on August 26, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
thats it im jailbreaking my shit

:lol at the $2 premium for the ipad
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 30, 2012, 11:09:58 AM
Out in New Zealand

http://itunes.apple.com/nz/app/final-fantasy-dimensions/id540992837?mt=8

Official site updated with tons of new info

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/smart/ffdl/en/
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 31, 2012, 07:56:16 AM
Borys just admit you're a disgusting poor that REELS at the thought of paying money

I'll be buying this when they fix the IAP
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 31, 2012, 08:42:43 AM
I just played the FREE prologue to form my own opinion, and I think its awesome. Great music, graphics are fine (unlike what screens tell you), and its good ATB.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 31, 2012, 08:55:48 AM
You can change the battle music so its more "chiptune" - arranged they call it.

The battle music sounds like a rendition of Force Your Way (FF8's battle music)
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: archnemesis on August 31, 2012, 09:02:35 AM
Has there been any word of this getting a release on a system with real buttons?
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on August 31, 2012, 07:21:05 PM
Just got back with a iTunes card and bought my $30 iPhone game. : D
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Takao on August 31, 2012, 07:40:34 PM
Has there been any word of this getting a release on a system with real buttons?

hope for playstation mobile

conversely xperia play optimized  :-*
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on September 01, 2012, 12:47:28 PM
im not sure why you always pretend like youre flip-flopping
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on September 01, 2012, 12:53:49 PM
At the end of Chapter 1...

Job system seems kinda lame right now. You can easily max out all jobs without even trying.

The thing is, it's meant to be this way. You can only go up to Level 3, but later on you get JP, which let you upgrade a job even more, but you are limited in your amount. So if you want to make them a stronger Mage, you put JP into the mage classes you want.

Leveling up a job also increases the stat boosts that job gives you. Each job increases and decreases stats. It also restricts equipment. Usual stuff.

The encounter rate is kinda high. I have beaten every fight with just the Auto button (which thankfully is saved, so you dont have to keep tapping it).

There are Fusion Abilities, like FF4 TAY, but I dont know any combinations or even how to unlock more.

Difficulty hasnt been bad, but enemies do some ok damage relative to my level.

Navigating is kinda annoying, trying to align yourself with a door or a pot to check.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on September 01, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
It's locked to certain intervals. Apparently you can find rare items that give you more JP. Game has been easy enough that jobs havent been an issue. I've just been going through the motions giving people various job ups. Red Mage Level 3 gives you +20% HP so that's not bad.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Diunx on September 01, 2012, 04:53:14 PM
Sounds and looks like one of those lame flash rpg.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2012, 03:34:40 PM
Fuck everyone who bought this.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 20, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
the snes games were made by teams with talent and experience. this is made by fucking matrix software.

also the snes games had production values comparable to other games at the time and cost $80. this uses ancient technology and costs $30.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 20, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
my mind is made up - square's old IPs are overpriced and underwhelming, so i wont play them. their eidos division on the other hand... :drool
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2012, 05:50:14 PM
Eidos :bow
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 20, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
Yeah, game is pretty good. Glad you decided to use your iPad beyond Angry Tards.

Now buy Drakerider
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 20, 2012, 07:38:03 PM
demi did you buy that sqeenix game made by the ouendan team? the one with the fucked up IAP added to the international versions?

also does drakerider get better after the first chapter? i liked what i played but i was starting to get pretty repetitive
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 20, 2012, 08:35:02 PM
I didnt buy Demon Score, or the new Symphonica

I didnt buy Drakerider yet either, need to finish my other $30 game first

They unlock more abilities and such in the later chapters though.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 20, 2012, 10:37:25 PM
He also directed The Bouncer and Chocobo Racing

But as a developer I welcome anything that will push app store pricing expectations up
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Takao on October 21, 2012, 12:07:06 AM
Positive Touch demolished.

I don't like the filter they applied to the sprites. Makes them look cheap.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 21, 2012, 01:50:14 AM
ban oscar
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 21, 2012, 01:50:26 AM
and takao
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 21, 2012, 02:16:43 AM
who wants to play that kind of game anymore in 2012

Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: tiesto on October 21, 2012, 10:27:21 AM
I'd get this if it came out on a real platform...
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: archnemesis on October 21, 2012, 10:45:15 AM
Yep, me too. Release it for a platform with buttons and I'm there.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 12:01:27 PM
who wants to play that kind of game anymore in 2012

lol, this dude comes in and Oscar smacks him out of the park. Lame...
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 21, 2012, 12:31:14 PM
who wants to play that kind of game anymore in 2012

You play pinball and old Sega arcade games, sir.

Not saying that's wrong, but in the category of who wants to play that kind of game in 2012 anymore...

The difference is that pinball and Sega are awesome, and JRPGs are for cellar dwellers
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 21, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
and of course the main difference is that we arent paying 3x the normal asking price for pinball and sega ports. 
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 01:10:57 PM
$5 is well beyond 3x the asking price for Crazy Taxi
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 21, 2012, 01:14:51 PM
lawlz
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 21, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
Disclaimer: I just finished Persona 3 and I think I'm JRPG'ed out until I hit about 76 years old
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 21, 2012, 02:25:22 PM
Disclaimer: i dont think ive played a sqeenix game aside from ff13 since crisis core
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 21, 2012, 02:28:08 PM
Disclaimer: I just finished Persona 3 and I think I'm JRPG'ed out until I hit about 76 years old

I finished Persona 3 AND Persona 4 and if there's an afterlife I don't want to bring my JRPGs with me anymore
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 02:37:26 PM
then shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, aaaaand shut the fuck up

Will continue to enjoy my game
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 21, 2012, 02:57:52 PM
It's okay, Hannah Montana still has her fans too
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 03:07:09 PM
Unlike Sega Ports, Hannah Montanna ages like a fine wine
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 21, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
Mmm just like the Olsen Twins
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
http://poponthepop.com/2012/09/miley-cyrus-2012-vmas-hair-looks-like-pinks/

See, Hannah is hip and retro just like Sega
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 21, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Oh god girl, your hair is a certifiable disaster area
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: archnemesis on October 21, 2012, 03:37:20 PM
It might not be necessary, but it sure as hell is nicer to play with real buttons. I might get it anyway once I've tried some of the cheaper iOS titles. Hopefully it will have dropped in price by then.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
It wont.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: archnemesis on October 21, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
I thought the iOS app store had frequent sales. Are Square-Enix not a part of that?
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Positive Touch on October 21, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
hell no they are not
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: archnemesis on October 21, 2012, 04:44:01 PM
Well, that's stupid. Pretty much all of their games have been 50% off on the PSN and they also take part in the Steam sales.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: originalz on October 21, 2012, 09:01:43 PM
SE stuff sometimes goes on sale but the drops aren't that huge, I think Chaos Rings 2 went down to 12 from 18 so don't expect dollar pricing or anything.  Dimensions is all-IAP pricing too so that might make it less likely to drop.

I have mixed feelings on Dimensions.  Even for SE, you can get very high-quality titles like TWEWY and Chaos Rings for much less than Dimensions.  The game is also poorly optimized for the iPhone, just using healing spells in the menu takes way too many steps than it should, or having to scroll down to select all of your party members in battle.  Still, the gameplay itself is pretty solid and it more or less gives the fans exactly what they want.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: tiesto on October 21, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
Disclaimer: I just finished Persona 3 and I think I'm JRPG'ed out until I hit about 76 years old

I finished Persona 3 AND Persona 4 and if there's an afterlife I don't want to bring my JRPGs with me anymore

I'll take em!
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 21, 2012, 10:16:25 PM
Oh god girl, your hair is a certifiable disaster area

Miley continues to be young and confident, which makes her smoking hot to me. She plays by her own rules and doesn't subscribe to Hollywood's stereotypical standards of beauty when it comes to her hair, not her body. I can't wait to see what she comes up with next.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 21, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
SE stuff sometimes goes on sale but the drops aren't that huge, I think Chaos Rings 2 went down to 12 from 18 so don't expect dollar pricing or anything.  Dimensions is all-IAP pricing too so that might make it less likely to drop.

I have mixed feelings on Dimensions.  Even for SE, you can get very high-quality titles like TWEWY and Chaos Rings for much less than Dimensions.  The game is also poorly optimized for the iPhone, just using healing spells in the menu takes way too many steps than it should, or having to scroll down to select all of your party members in battle.  Still, the gameplay itself is pretty solid and it more or less gives the fans exactly what they want.

Would easily grab TWEWY if it ran on Touch 4 : (
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: tiesto on October 21, 2012, 11:05:42 PM
At least release this shit on Android...

Anyways, does this game actually have somewhat of a storyline, or good gameplay? Seems like a lot of 2D FF games are nothing but cheap cashins with tons of recycling (The After Years, which was a total disappointment).
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: demi on October 22, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
Its storyline is no different than any Final Fantasy. And its the same gameplay you played in any Final Fantasy.

After Years is fine, too. The moon system was weird, though.
Title: Re: Square finally gives up on $18 iOS games with Final Fantasy Dimensions
Post by: tiesto on October 22, 2012, 11:21:34 AM
I thought the encounter rate in After Years was muchhhh too high and there was a ridiculous amount of backtracking. I think it was Palom's chapter that had me go through the waterfall caverns no less than 3 times for instance.