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Title: any idea why my wash machine water pipes are both giving off hot water?
Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 04:16:21 PM
hurry and and answer before my basement floods
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 09, 2012, 04:18:48 PM
Is your washing machine running?
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Post by: Robo on October 09, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 04:22:17 PM
Is your washing machine running?

yes dammit i need clean clothes so very bad

i can deal with a few problems as long as i get in a load or two
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Post by: demi on October 09, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
i'll give you a load or two
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 04:34:29 PM
well i like the sound of that
Title: any idea why my wash machine water pipes are both giving off hot water?
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 09, 2012, 04:35:36 PM
Oh boy.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 04:48:44 PM
well the basement doesnt look like its flooding, just getting real wet, so thats good. just gotta figure out why im only getting hot water in the machine now so i can wash my good clothes without them fading.

it would help a lot if these fuckers werent tearing off my roof and making all this goddamn noise now. THEY JUST REVAMED MASS EFFECT 3 MULTIPLAYER YOU FUCKS DONT YOU UNDERSTAND IM TRYING TO ENJOY MYSELF
Title: any idea why my wash machine water pipes are both giving off hot water?
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 09, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
 Call the super helpful landlord and ask him what's up.
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Post by: Mupepe on October 09, 2012, 05:04:43 PM
Are you sure it's coming out of the pipes hot?  Or is your washing machine not blending the two properly via the inlet valve?  When your washing machine is only spitting out hot or cold water it's usually the inlet valve.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 05:11:36 PM
Call the super helpful landlord and ask him what's up.

landlord is on honeymoon bangin his wife

Are you sure it's coming out of the pipes hot?  Or is your washing machine not blending the two properly via the inlet valve?  When your washing machine is only spitting out hot or cold water it's usually the inlet valve.

what is this "inlet valve?" the machines sorta-old and not in 100% condition. i just got it & have never hooked one up before.
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Post by: Mupepe on October 09, 2012, 05:17:34 PM
The inlet valve is the part on the machine where the hose actually connects to the machine.  Sometimes it gets stopped up with hard water deposits or sometimes the little electrical "blender" inside of it dies. 
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 05:18:35 PM
 :o i see. i will look into this. thank you good sir
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Post by: Mupepe on October 09, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
No problemo
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 09, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
The inlet valve is the part on the machine where the hose actually connects to the machine.  Sometimes it gets stopped up with hard water deposits or sometimes the little electrical "blender" inside of it dies.

That definitely sounds like what it is -- deposits clog up the inlet and/or there's a little solenoid that can get stuck. Are you good with tools? Check for a schematic diagram on the back of the washer. It might also be behind the back panel, usually it's a folded piece of paper taped to the machine somewhere. You might be able to find the part number and get a replacement. Companies frequently still sell parts for old machines .
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 09, 2012, 07:58:46 PM
Also, as a warning, if you have hard water and haven't shut off the water supply valves to the washer for a long time, BE CAREFUL. The calcium deposits mess up the valve seating and they can actually leak when they're shut off. I remember one I had hadn't been closed for ~30 years and the entire damn seat assembly + knob flew off the valve. Water everywhere. I had to shut off the main and braze a new valve on.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 09, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
UPDATE: both water pipes feel hot up on the ceiling, so i dont think its a problem with the machine. i get cold water upstairs, so i dunno i dont think its a problem with the water heater ah fuck too tired to think about this shit
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 09, 2012, 11:51:18 PM
UPDATE: both water pipes feel hot up on the ceiling, so i dont think its a problem with the machine. i get cold water upstairs, so i dunno i dont think its a problem with the water heater ah fuck too tired to think about this shit

Is your water heater close to those pipes? Not unusual for the cold supply line to be warm near the heater (convection).
Alternatively, the internal mixing solenoid in the washer may be stuck partly open. This can let hot water into the cold supply pipe and make both supply pipes feel hot to the touch. Plumber time!
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Post by: Mupepe on October 10, 2012, 10:09:43 AM
UPDATE: both water pipes feel hot up on the ceiling, so i dont think its a problem with the machine. i get cold water upstairs, so i dunno i dont think its a problem with the water heater ah fuck too tired to think about this shit

Is your water heater close to those pipes? Not unusual for the cold supply line to be warm near the heater (convection).
Alternatively, the internal mixing solenoid in the washer may be stuck partly open. This can let hot water into the cold supply pipe and make both supply pipes feel hot to the touch. Plumber time!
This.

I would check disassemble the washer's inlet valve and do a physical inspection for buildup or stuck mechanical pieces.  If everything looks a-ok I'd call a plumber.  That's definitely not something you want to take on yourself if you don't know some plumbing basics.

Edit:
:bow Rusty Shackleford :bow2

Great name and a handy man to boot.
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Post by: Robo on October 10, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
It must be pretty rad to know useful stuff.

On the other hand, I can name from memory every Nirvana drummer prior to Dave Grohl, so fuck you.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 10, 2012, 02:35:24 PM
UPDATE: both water pipes feel hot up on the ceiling, so i dont think its a problem with the machine. i get cold water upstairs, so i dunno i dont think its a problem with the water heater ah fuck too tired to think about this shit

Is your water heater close to those pipes? Not unusual for the cold supply line to be warm near the heater (convection).
Alternatively, the internal mixing solenoid in the washer may be stuck partly open. This can let hot water into the cold supply pipe and make both supply pipes feel hot to the touch. Plumber time!
This.

I would check disassemble the washer's inlet valve and do a physical inspection for buildup or stuck mechanical pieces.  If everything looks a-ok I'd call a plumber.  That's definitely not something you want to take on yourself if you don't know some plumbing basics.

Edit:
:bow Rusty Shackleford :bow2

Great name and a handy man to boot.

haha thanks. Most of the family are in trades so you pick a lot of stuff up. Both supply pipes feeling hot is common close to the water heater but
if they're both hot some distance away from the heater then it's hard to tell from here; could be the washer's or the heater's mixing valve.

I think the fastest solution to Positive's problem is to run to a home depot and get a Y hose setup (probably one female to two female) for his washer supply pipes, then plug it into the cold supply line and both inlets on the washer. No real plumbing experience required. No hot water, but it's definitely the speediest fix. Some washers heat up the hot water if the inlet's too cold, though; he'll have to babysit the washer for a while to check. The home depot guys should be able to set him up; most houses use 3/8" OD washer supply hoses. Like I said before, though, carefully inspect the spigots and their knobs at the inlet pipes before you take the plunge and try turning them off. If they're too badly corroded, the valves will leak past the seat and that's a whole other adventure.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 10, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
On a side note, Mupepe, your avatar is...enthralling. I'm going to be staring at it when I get into a car wreck.
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Post by: Mupepe on October 11, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
I hope you remember it in the hospital <3 <3  I aim to please
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 11, 2012, 02:13:10 PM
Man Charlotte Church sure grew up. Did not see that coming given her choir origins. You know who else grew up (and out)? Stephanie from Full House. Damn.
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Post by: Mupepe on October 11, 2012, 02:37:14 PM
Man Charlotte Church sure grew up. Did not see that coming given her choir origins. You know who else grew up (and out)? Stephanie from Full House. Damn.
Yes!  I had a thing for her when I was a kid too but now  :o