THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on October 22, 2012, 12:02:45 AM
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Today I was at Applebees with someone and was faced with a dilemma that went to the core of my being: my waitress was shitty. I could tell almost immediately that she wasn't enthused to be serving me. For instance she forgot to bring me some sauce that came with my meal, then didn't even come close to our table for like 10 minutes; it was clear she had an attitude. She never refilled my drink unless I asked her too either, and when it came time for the bill she took like 10 minutes before casually throwing it on the desk without a word. In short, she figured I wasn't going to tip her anyway so why give a shit. The place wasn't even crowded so there was no excuse.
You might be saying "PD, if I was you I wouldn't give her a tip, then I'd ask to see the manager." That may seem logical to some, but you are overlooking a very important factor here: the black man's burden. If I didn't tip she would simply think "oh look I was right, another black person who doesn't tip." And thus the cycle would continue: I would be passing that burden to the next black man to bear, instead of bearing it myself and overcoming that shit. That's what black excellence is about. I gave her a 20% tip not because I wanted to or because she deserved it, but because maybe - just maybe - the next black guy who receives her service will get treated better because of my good work. And in turn he'll give a good tip, making her even more receptive to serving black people. And in time we would have built up enough black excellence in the food service community that this tipping stereotype will no longer exist.
We enter life a couple touchdowns behind, and thus have to over perform just to get ahead. Why do you think hyper tension and heart disease are so prevalent within the black community? Because this is a heavy burden to carry, and not everyone is up to the task; and even those that are will die before their time because of the pressure. There are only so many tips you can give, so much medium rare meat you can order, and so much baseball you can watch instead of football before the burden becomes too heavy and you die of a heart attack at 53.
I know what I did to preserve and pass on black excellence today. What did you do today, Himu/Beezy/Green Man?
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You should have left a penny tip and wrote "u suk" on the receipt so she would know you were purposefully not leaving a tip because she sucked.
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you should have just put "racist" on the bill to ruin her night :lol
also lol you gave money to an asshole
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How do you know she just wasn't in shit mood because the place was dead and her boss won't cut her loose to get back to her home? Thats usually why service industry people are in shit moods.
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How do you know she just wasn't in shit mood because the place was dead and her boss won't cut her loose to get back to her home? Thats usually why service industry people are in shit moods.
Because I've dealt with waitresses and delivery people before who clearly were less than enthused could seeing me. I've been to enough restaurants to tell when someone is just tired or stressed. This woman - mid thirties I'm guessing - clearly didn't give a shit and wanted me to know.
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"Here's two bucks, doll face, 'cause that's all your worth."
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You should carry around 8" x 11" glossies of your cawk and give them out when that shit happens
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this was your chance to take creepshots without feeling remorse, you blew it.
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All you have done is rewarded her for her racism. And possibly instilled a Pavlovian response in her to treat other black customers poorly through your positive reinforcement. You should have taken a rolled up
newspaper menu and swatted her on the nose after each act of insolence.
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(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/237/621/c8a.gif)
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"i tell ya, doesn't matter what a bitch i am, those black guys will try anything to get my number."
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hahaha, you ate at applebee's
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hahaha, you ate at applebee's
:teehee
It's no Olive Garden, for sure.
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Her choice not mine. Not a big fan of Applebees
The burden of taking one for the team is not being appreciated :fbm
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you could've just shown her your tiny penis.
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Wait so this isn't about white women ???
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Wait so this isn't about white women ???
:lol glad I wasn't the only one who assumed this
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Today I was at Applebees with someone and was faced with a dilemma that went to the core of my being: my waitress was shitty. I could tell almost immediately that she wasn't enthused to be serving me. For instance she forgot to bring me some sauce that came with my meal, then didn't even come close to our table for like 10 minutes; it was clear she had an attitude. She never refilled my drink unless I asked her too either, and when it came time for the bill she took like 10 minutes before casually throwing it on the desk without a word. In short, she figured I wasn't going to tip her anyway so why give a shit. The place wasn't even crowded so there was no excuse.
You might be saying "PD, if I was you I wouldn't give her a tip, then I'd ask to see the manager." That may seem logical to some, but you are overlooking a very important factor here: the black man's burden. If I didn't tip she would simply think "oh look I was right, another black person who doesn't tip." And thus the cycle would continue: I would be passing that burden to the next black man to bear, instead of bearing it myself and overcoming that shit. That's what black excellence is about. I gave her a 20% tip not because I wanted to or because she deserved it, but because maybe - just maybe - the next black guy who receives her service will get treated better because of my good work. And in turn he'll give a good tip, making her even more receptive to serving black people. And in time we would have built up enough black excellence in the food service community that this tipping stereotype will no longer exist.
We enter life a couple touchdowns behind, and thus have to over perform just to get ahead. Why do you think hyper tension and heart disease are so prevalent within the black community? Because this is a heavy burden to carry, and not everyone is up to the task; and even those that are will die before their time because of the pressure. There are only so many tips you can give, so much medium rare meat you can order, and so much baseball you can watch instead of football before the burden becomes too heavy and you die of a heart attack at 53.
I know what I did to preserve and pass on black excellence today. What did you do today, Himu/Beezy/Green Man?
I can't stand watching baseball. I actually prefer basketball over both sports.
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Today I was at Applebees with someone
stealth brag thread
I know what I did to preserve and pass on black excellence today. What did you do today, Himu/Beezy/Green Man?
:lol
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:teehee
It's no Olive Garden, for sure.
(http://h2savecom.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screen-shot-2012-10-08-at-12-37-02-pm.png)
#gamechanger
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shouldve told her she works for tips cuz no one will stick the full thing in like triumph comic dog did to those black girls that one time
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Wait so this isn't about white women ???
:lol glad I wasn't the only one who assumed this
Need clarity : Is this about white women?
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I'm like that whenever I order Pad Thai as if that's the only Thai dish I know. Sometimes a foo just wants some Pad Thai.
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Last tine I tipped the chick gave me back the tip because of how miserable it was, true story :lol
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PD if she is a crappy waitress she is used to not getting tips.
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Last tine I tipped the chick gave me back the tip because of how miserable it was, true story :lol
The tip was so small that she figured you needed the money more than her.
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A 20% tip for shitty service? Nothing you mentioned made it sound like race had anything to do with it. She was just a shitty waitress. Working at a shitty restaurant.
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So what did you order to eat?
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Leave a good tip but before you leave, just tell her your theory of the black man's burden. You'll at least get a good laugh out of it.
you should have just put "racist" on the bill to ruin her night :lol
also lol you gave money to an asshole
What if it was a black waitress?
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Today I went to Jack in the Box in the ghetto, and saw some homeless man walk in. He needed money, so someone him enough for a meal. I think he was out of it, because he'd stand over the trash can and just guzzle his french fries down like they're soda. Then he's go sit next to someone in the place, then look at em for a bit, and then went to a different spot to sit and did this repeatedly. So anyways, a white couple comes in, this shop's customers right now are 95% black, they look around a bit, stare at the homeless guy with his towel, and then walk out.
:fbm
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I know what you mean when you give tip NO MATTER WHAT, PD. I always do so. The other day I went to Outback Steakhouse with a group and they're like,"this service is shitty, let's not tip" so I rebuke,"NO, WE'RE TIPPING. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA TIP, I'M GONNA TIP. I DON'T WANT NO ONE TO JUDGE ME" so they looked at me funny and we shared the tip.
But they're right, that was some real shitty food, but I hadn't eaten all day so whatever.
Hoping Key and Peele make a sketch on the Tip Burden (tm).
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I know what you mean when you give tip NO MATTER WHAT, PD. I always do so. The other day I went to Outback Steakhouse with a group and they're like,"this service is shitty, let's not tip" so I rebuke,"NO, WE'RE TIPPING. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA TIP, I'M GONNA TIP. I DON'T WANT NO ONE TO JUDGE ME" so they looked at me funny and we shared the tip.
But they're right, that was some real shitty food, but I hadn't eaten all day so whatever.
Hoping Key and Peele make a sketch on the Tip Burden (tm).
Fuck that. Shitty service? No tip. Shitty food? No tip unless the waiter/waitress has been ok and apologizes about the food. Go ahead and label me as a shitty black tipper. I don't owe you shit and I'll never see you again anyway.
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I know what you mean when you give tip NO MATTER WHAT, PD. I always do so. The other day I went to Outback Steakhouse with a group and they're like,"this service is shitty, let's not tip" so I rebuke,"NO, WE'RE TIPPING. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA TIP, I'M GONNA TIP. I DON'T WANT NO ONE TO JUDGE ME" so they looked at me funny and we shared the tip.
But they're right, that was some real shitty food, but I hadn't eaten all day so whatever.
Hoping Key and Peele make a sketch on the Tip Burden (tm).
Fuck that. Shitty service? No tip. Shitty food? No tip. Go ahead and label me as a shitty black tipper. I don't owe you shit and I'll never see you again anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsK1McEA9ds
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Fuck that. Shitty service? No tip. Shitty food? No tip unless the waiter/waitress has been ok and apologizes about the food. Go ahead and label me as a shitty black tipper. I don't owe you shit and I'll never see you again anyway.
so real :bow
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Just be cheap consistently, thats what I do.
10% every time.
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I do this as well because Asians usually tip like shit. gotta overturn stereotypes.....
You're asian?
Indian, but it applies here, yeah
As a whitey, I love going to eat at Indian and Asian restaurants and getting waited on like a king b/c they think I will tip good (I usually double NYS tax so 17.5%).
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Beezy my brother I love you but I can only carry your responsibilities for so long before I die. Sooner or later you'll be held responsible for your actions, and I'm just trying to get you back on track with black excellence. If I saw you walking down the street right now I wouldn't give you a black man nod, because you haven't earned it. That nod is in recognition of black excellence, of being able to look a man in his soul and say " I see you brother. Oh, you ate your vegetables today? That's black excellence. Oh, is that a Subway napkin in your back pocket? That's black excellence."
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Beezy my brother I love you but I can only carry your responsibilities for so long before I die. Sooner or later you'll be held responsible for your actions, and I'm just trying to get you back on track with black excellence. If I saw you walking down the street right now I wouldn't give you a black man nod, because you haven't earned it. That nod is in recognition of black excellence, of being able to look a man in his soul and say " I see you brother. Oh, you ate your vegetables today? That's black excellence. Oh, is that a Subway napkin in your back pocket? That's black excellence."
:rofl
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Beezy my brother I love you but I can only carry your responsibilities for so long before I die. Sooner or later you'll be held responsible for your actions, and I'm just trying to get you back on track with black excellence. If I saw you walking down the street right now I wouldn't give you a black man nod, because you haven't earned it. That nod is in recognition of black excellence, of being able to look a man in his soul and say " I see you brother. Oh, you ate your vegetables today? That's black excellence. Oh, is that a Subway napkin in your back pocket? That's black excellence."
:rofl
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I know what I did to preserve and pass on black excellence today. What did you do today, Himu/Beezy/Green Man?
:lol
and here i was just gonna post asking if Green Man was really black :lol
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Beezy my brother I love you but I can only carry your responsibilities for so long before I die. Sooner or later you'll be held responsible for your actions, and I'm just trying to get you back on track with black excellence. If I saw you walking down the street right now I wouldn't give you a black man nod, because you haven't earned it. That nod is in recognition of black excellence, of being able to look a man in his soul and say " I see you brother. Oh, you ate your vegetables today? That's black excellence. Oh, is that a Subway napkin in your back pocket? That's black excellence."
:rofl
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I know what I did to preserve and pass on black excellence today. What did you do today, Himu/Beezy/Green Man?
:lol
and here i was just gonna post asking if Green Man was really black :lol
I understand the hardships that many black people go through. Moreso than most white people
how so? i love a good story
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I get this treatment as well. Usually its a nasty person who treats me this way. Normal folks with no "hang ups" about serving people give me good service.
I still tip the nasty waiters well. I usually tip 20% or over (my fam and friends taught me well.) Usually when the waiter finds out how much I have tipped, they have a shocked look on their face. Yeah, I'd be shocked too if I knew I was giving terrible service and got a really good tip as well.
I once walked into a pizza place and asked for a copy of the menu to keep so when I feel like pizza I can grab the menu and order. As soon as I asked, the woman behind the counter told me "It might be a little too expensive." I said thank you and walked out. I opened the menu and the prices are tame. I then knew she was stereotyping me, but she was hispanic so I was confused by her treating me that way.
Moral is that some people suck, some don't.
Oh, and racism doesn't exist anymore cause we gots us a black president. :P
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I once tipped a waitress who provided abhorrently shitty service one penny. I usually tip generously if I get good service (20%+)
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also I'd rather eat at iHop than Applebee's its rather ghetto if I do say so myself. :lol
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Oh, and racism doesn't exist anymore cause we gots us a black president. :P
Not for much longer. :usacry
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Huh? I wasn't offended, I genuinely wanted to know.
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If a non-black person were to have a Subway napkin in their back pocket, would they still be able to receive that napkin's qualties of black excellence? Or would it be like a hobbit trying to equip a battleaxe, and instead of getting a +6 to STR they just become over encumbered?
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I used to get stereotyped as a shit tipper because I looked so young. Now we get stereotyped because we have a kid. When we get super shit service, I always give 20% because I want to prove that I'm not a cheap ass, but my husband ends up writing something sarcastic on the credit card slip or the napkin.
"Thanks for the great service...?"
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I used to get stereotyped as a shit tipper because I looked so young. Now we get stereotyped because we have a kid. When we get super shit service, I always give 20% because I want to prove that I'm not a cheap ass, but my husband ends up writing something sarcastic on the credit card slip or the napkin.
"Thanks for the great service...?"
I agree with your husband's approach. It's the waiter's job to provide service, not your husband's job to be a great customer.
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Huh? I wasn't offended, I genuinely wanted to know.
Whenever this conversation comes up people always take it the wrong way, so I assume the worse.
I see where you're coming from, and respect it 100%. To me it makes far more sense than the argument some people make that they like "black" culture more than "white" culture, listen to rap, etc and therefore are kind of black.
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I will never reward bad behaviour.
Shitty service = shitty tip.
Good service = good tip.
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END BLACK TIPPING DISCRIMINATION
Tip even if they feed you shit!
Show black excellence!
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Wait, what? Did Biz just play the "you people" card? Was it ironic? I am lost!
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Just be cheap consistently, thats what I do.
10% every time.
you're a piece of shit
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Just be cheap consistently, thats what I do.
10% every time.
you're a piece of shit
I love this thread :lol
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Isn't 10% the standard? 20% is overtipping imo, but I don't live in a tipping country so what the fuck do I know!
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I try to avoid places where tipping is expected.
a.k.a. I don't go out much.
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MY black man burden usually involves the waiter/waitress putting the bill closer to my asian friends after a meal. WTF IS THAT ABOUT? :maf
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I don't understand the pocket Subway napkin. Why don't you just buy your own napkins? Those are for customers only.
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It's like when girls use bags from trendy stores as their tote-bags as a status symbol. Except with Subway and napkins.
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I only do 20 percent if the bill is real low or they gave extra special service. Otherwise it's 15 percent.
If you don't keep my drinks filled or the bill takes 20 minutes to get to the table (my biggest pet peeve), then you get 5-10 percent.
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I don't understand the pocket Subway napkin. Why don't you just buy your own napkins? Those are for customers only.
Your privileged mentality has shielded you from the truth Robo. Subway has some of the most high quality napkins in the fast food industry. They don't fall apart when you use them, and they also include information you can read. If you had black friends you might know some of us may place them around the house, sort of like a cheap coffee book table alternative.
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If you had black friends you might know some of us may place them around the house, sort of like a cheap coffee book table alternative.
Newsfeed
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i tip $1 for every $5 the meal cost. if the service is bad then i do 10%; theres only been a handful of times where theres a big enough problem that i dont tip.
also my wife is a former waitress so she will kill me if i do not tip
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Oh, and racism doesn't exist anymore cause we gots us a black president. :P
Not for much longer. :usacry
romney:
*is cheap
*doesn't like gays
*prefers white women
time for a real black president.
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it be hard for uh black folks out here dez dayz. :-\
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Wait, what's excellent about giving more in exchange for receiving less ???
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Wait, what's excellent about giving more in exchange for receiving less ???
You are missing the point. I'm not paying tips for receiving less, I'm paying tips to advance an entire race. Do you remember when Bruce Willis saved earth by sacrificing himself at the end of Armageddon? I do that shit every month when I ask for water instead of kool aid at a party.
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Just be cheap consistently, thats what I do.
10% every time.
you're a piece of shit
I love this thread :lol
i don't even remember posting that
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I always tip at least 20%. Tipping is their main source of income. They make $2.90 an hour otherwise. Spread the wealth and improve the economy. You wanna be stingy, that's your prerogative. But karma is a biotch.
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Just be cheap consistently, thats what I do.
10% every time.
you're a piece of shit
I love this thread :lol
i don't even remember posting that
stop drinking
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I used to tip 15% when I came to the US, sometimes a bit more if the service is the service is exceptionally good (or hot). But running the numbers in my head or on my calculator was a chore, so I started doing this...
i tip $1 for every $5 the meal cost.
I haven't gotten any really service yet to reconsider it, but if it calls for it I definitely would.
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Just be cheap consistently, thats what I do.
10% every time.
you're a piece of shit
I love this thread :lol
i don't even remember posting that
stop drinking
Cajole's burden may be heavier than my own. Let that man drink
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Lol try hospo in NZ. Nobody tips, and most people get $14 an hour. Yet often people here are really nice that work cafes (including myself for 3 years til I left that trade). Blows my mind. Could do with some black excellence here, think I'm going to start tipping on principle too though I would never tip bad service like that PD. Let that racist bitch stew
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LOL, reading the OP made me think about what my mom and dad have done in said situations. They will literally chew out a shitty waiter/waitress for shitty service....so a tip is totally out of the question. :lol My mom and dad won't shy away from making a scene. But don't misunderstand: they're not "ghetto". Far from it actually. My dad is in politics so there's no loss of composure or anything (or neck rolling from my mom, :lol)
I've never heard of the actual phrase "black man's burden" before, but I have practices its principles a few times in my life....but usually, that's just me trying to be a good person, not an attempt to represent black people (usually :)).
But when it comes to shitty service: me? Shitty service deserves a shitty tip (if one at all). If the waitress is delusional enough to think that her crappy tip is because of a stereotype instead of her shitty service then fuck her. I'll be damned if I waste my time trying to change the mind of some idiot who 1) can't do their job right, and 2) thinks they should be rewarded it.
Great service? Then the "black man's burden" possibly comes into play. "I provided excellent service and they still didn't tip me! Those damn negroes!"
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Beezy my brother I love you but I can only carry your responsibilities for so long before I die. Sooner or later you'll be held responsible for your actions, and I'm just trying to get you back on track with black excellence. If I saw you walking down the street right now I wouldn't give you a black man nod, because you haven't earned it. That nod is in recognition of black excellence, of being able to look a man in his soul and say " I see you brother. Oh, you ate your vegetables today? That's black excellence. Oh, is that a Subway napkin in your back pocket? That's black excellence."
:lol best pd post ever :lol
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it's also important for the black man to differentiate himself from old white libertarian racists who never tip, e.g. my old man
"son, you see that congoid over there? the service here is shit, and he still left ten dollars on the table. now you see what i'm talking about?"
"yeah, that he's a socially conscious and responsible adult who doesn't presume he understands other people's circumstances, and has developed a positive and healthy protocol for service?"
"no, i mean he's dumb enough to give lazy people his money -- just like a democrat. son..."
"don't son me, pops, i made more last year than you did in the last ten."
"...okay."
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I know what I did to preserve and pass on black excellence today. What did you do today, Himu/Beezy/Green Man?
:lol
and here i was just gonna post asking if Green Man was really black :lol
I understand the hardships that many black people go through. Moreso than most white people
how so? i love a good story
So, I was saying that largely in jest but I will say the following. Granted, it might sound offensive but I have good intentions when I say it. I'm just an idiot and bad at explaining things.
I've lived a life that's stereotypically associated with that of low-income black families, granted with bouts of prosperity that have allowed to for nice things and easy living at times. I've also spent my entire life in a majority black area and 90% of the people I grew up with in my life have been black. My friends were black, my mother had mostly black friends so as a kid those were the type of people I was around and learned a lot of life lessons from. I also have a large section of black family members.
By and large I feel more comfortable around black people than I do white people. Which is kind of a weird thing to say that I'm sure doesn't sound right here but it sounds better in my head.
Nah it was a good explanation to be honest.
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my tipping has gradually crept up to 40%-ish. it's sick, I am betraying my fellow consumers' interests.
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I don't tip.