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Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 27, 2012, 05:09:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/U05rY.png)

$15 well spent!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: archnemesis on October 27, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
I understand that they want a cleaner look, but when you remove error messages and other useful information it's not an improvement.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 27, 2012, 05:15:59 PM
I guess I'm not seeing what the problem is here, looks like a standard Windows screen to me.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 27, 2012, 05:18:16 PM
Meet the new Windows, same as the old Windows.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MCD on October 27, 2012, 05:19:38 PM
There is an app for that: http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-US/app/teamviewer-touch/417cca6d-744d-4770-b168-12171f73ed37
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 27, 2012, 05:22:28 PM
i just got used to windows 7, fuck off windows 8!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: originalz on October 27, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
I get the BSOD immediately on bootup and it restarts my computer in an eternal loop.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 27, 2012, 10:35:31 PM
Finally got it to install after spending an hour disabling programs, uninstalling stuff, disconnecting extra disc drive, etc. Now time to bitch about how shitty it is!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 27, 2012, 11:15:35 PM
Shoulda got a Chromebook.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2012, 11:26:29 PM
yeah, think of all the great things you can do with a chromebook, like render html5!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 27, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
Shoulda got a Chromebook.

If there was a $15 Chromebook, I would have!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 27, 2012, 11:29:54 PM
Oh yeah, also Metro sucks.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2012, 11:32:33 PM
not every grocery chain can be kroger
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 27, 2012, 11:36:21 PM
yeah, think of all the great things you can do with a chromebook, like render html5!

:hyper

And actually boot up!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 27, 2012, 11:41:51 PM
check out all the great games you can play* on your chromebook

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/app/3-games#category/app/3-games







*view
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 27, 2012, 11:43:41 PM
F2P games  :yuck
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 27, 2012, 11:45:25 PM
*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2012, 12:05:55 AM
I havent run into any issues installing Win8- but some people have. Some people have issues with iOS upgrades- some dont.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: demi on October 28, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
check out all the great games you can play* on your chromebook

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/app/3-games#category/app/3-games







*view

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/app/3-games#detail/crash-bandicoot/lbglaphjmakdancklcmhepnabflennig

what the fuck? :lol

oh google.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 28, 2012, 12:40:05 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/uAFFQ6vGJHiHuCUghJEuN44qybLU81EAoc1pIhC9su9rb4UQeU_HxqkF4V8YJRNNvDDwp0D2ww=s640-h400-e365)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/PqulpUpVNtV452IrxSCCoG8kFdRMP1qGCZbQx0qpnqrBvBoqfWCmHKirKmkEVueonDixFatnIw=s640-h400-e365)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/cxIGMI1EeU7LQML1N_a7wxFj4gX4yYk2wuZ9Pru1nE2kLQgX7P8oKF9pOvLgzxreAPD3OjQOBw=s640-h400-e365)

:windowscry :applecry :sonycry

spoiler (click to show/hide)
BONUS!
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Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 28, 2012, 12:44:03 AM
i think QUALITY is definitely L
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: demi on October 28, 2012, 12:52:25 AM
they must be using a chromebook.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 28, 2012, 01:03:51 AM
Anyone know how long the W8 for $15 offer lasts?

No one know's how long the signup is gonna last other than the January 2013 date. Personally I don't think they are gonna stop it cause as long as they keep the numbers coming in thats all MS cares about. DO NOT UPGRADE from a Windows 7 install that you've installed on other pc's. The other pc's will no longer work and you'll get the dreaded register this shit or suffer with 4 hour shutdown.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

???

New Chromebook has Flash if that's what you're getting at, doofus.

No NaCl yet though so Bastion and From Dust are out of the picture. :'( But PNaCl is coming which will add support back in.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2012, 03:59:35 AM
Verge knows what's up.

(http://i.imgur.com/4wlfH.png)
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2012, 07:45:47 AM
*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

???

New Chromebook has Flash if that's what you're getting at, doofus.

No NaCl yet though so Bastion and From Dust are out of the picture. :'( But PNaCl is coming which will add support back in.

brb, installing battlefield play 4 free on my chro-

oh
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: pilonv1 on October 28, 2012, 07:51:56 AM
every thread andrex posts in
(http://i.imgur.com/9bgEh.png)
ends up about google or nintendo
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2012, 07:54:37 AM
brb, gonna use chromebook to watch some scary movies on Netfl-

http://blogs.computerworld.com/laptops/21180/new-samsung-chromebook-netflix

oh
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 28, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
Verge knows what's up.

(http://i.imgur.com/4wlfH.png)

That both the Chromebock and Surface suck. Sounds about right.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 28, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
You know I don't know how it determines which version you end up getting as it didn't give me a choice of x32 or x64. But I had previously a x32 then installed x64 Windows 7 and was able to upgrade to x64 Window's 8 with no issues.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 28, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
nobody takes the verge seriously.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
The one thing I think most can agree on is that the Surface hardware gave laptop manufacturers a kick in the pants when it comes to designing tablets that MIGHT just be useful for work- not just the angry birds and youtube.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2012, 03:33:41 PM
*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

???

New Chromebook has Flash if that's what you're getting at, doofus.

No NaCl yet though so Bastion and From Dust are out of the picture. :'( But PNaCl is coming which will add support back in.

brb, installing battlefield play 4 free on my chro-

oh

Oh you meant the actual games the spam games were trying to crib.

That's uh, pretty dumb. They're obviously spam games.

brb, gonna use chromebook to watch some scary movies on Netfl-

http://blogs.computerworld.com/laptops/21180/new-samsung-chromebook-netflix

oh

Like I said, PNaCl is coming with the next Chrome update yo.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2012, 05:11:22 PM

but see, you told him he should've bought a chromebook

and right now the chromebook can't do shit

"it's coming"

awesome, everyone just wait until it's worth a rat fuck and then...still not buy one
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2012, 05:40:13 PM
It's more limited but it doesn't have the bajillion problems he's documenting in this very thread. Boots up in 8 secs, resumes instantly, updates are automatic.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 28, 2012, 06:30:01 PM
surface boots quick, resumes instantly, and updates automatically
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MCD on October 28, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Surface can also get you laid
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 28, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Surface can also get you laid

When you buy one to give to a hooker in lieu of money?
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
http://hal2020.com/2012/10/28/understanding-the-microsoft-surface-a-sort-of-review/
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
surface boots quick, resumes instantly, and updates automatically

Just make sure you don't flub the install and clean your registry out every week.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 28, 2012, 07:03:41 PM
you don't install WINDOWS *RT* you clueless idiot
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 28, 2012, 07:04:17 PM
uuuh what andrex?
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2012, 07:06:02 PM
yeah I dunno- whatever. Just read reviews from people you trust on third party sites and dont listen to people with a clear agenda is my advice
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2012, 07:09:21 PM
you don't install WINDOWS *RT* you clueless idiot

No duh. ::)

Edit- You said Surface, not RT, so I thought you were including both RT and Pro in that.

Mea culpa.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 28, 2012, 07:32:29 PM
ultimately any system that allows full admin access to everything also gives you (and any software you allow to run as admin) the power to fuck up your system beyond recognition or redemption. the whole point of Windows RT and the sandboxed / declarative-install-only Windows Store app model is to provide the peasantry with a safe environment where they can install crap to their heart's content without fucking up their system - with the new System Refresh feature as a safety net - leaving the anything-goes desktop environment to members of the master race who can handle it
Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 08:57:04 PM
So system refresh only cleans the Metro part of the OS?

I feel like doing a clean install and was wondering if the refresh options can offer similar results.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 28, 2012, 09:06:10 PM
No it's the other way around. System refresh will leave all your Metro apps/settings intact, along with your document libraries, and bulldoze/pave everything else. Other than that it should be "basically" the same as a clean install, as far as fucked up registry settings and startup pollution etc. go, but I'm not sure what caveats there might be to that. There's also System Reset which paves over your Metro stuff too, so it's basically the same as a reinstall.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
Sounds like something worth experimenting. I just need to confirm one thing: I have two 500gb hard drives (no partitions). My OS is on my C drive while my games and documents are on my D. These bulldozing options should theoretically affect the OS drive while leaving my D intact, correct? I'm asking this because I don't have an external drive at the moment to backup my stuff to. Having my D unaffected would be a more convenient route.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 28, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
I think so, but I don't know much about the details of system reset/restore tbh.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 11:00:54 PM
Sounds like someone needs to take one for the team and check them out. If it ends up erasing my D drive, I swear to Lucifer, everyone in this thread will pay.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 11:15:47 PM
Also, fwiw, I'm starting to really love this thing after getting the hang of it. The switching between desktop and Metro isn't as jarring now that I've visualized how the layering works.

Not mention discovering all the various shortcuts have greatly improved the flow of navigation. Just getting used to hitting the Win-key to bring up Metro (and realizing by simply typing I go straight to search), Win-C for the Charm Bar, and Win-Q (among other keys) to jump to the App list/search helped a lot. I can safely say I don't need the start menu anymore.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 29, 2012, 12:24:13 AM
:bow
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2012, 12:25:39 AM
Also, fwiw, I'm starting to really love this thing after getting the hang of it. The switching between desktop and Metro isn't as jarring now that I've visualized how the layering works.

Not mention discovering all the various shortcuts have greatly improved the flow of navigation. Just getting used to hitting the Win-key to bring up Metro (and realizing by simply typing I go straight to search), Win-C for the Charm Bar, and Win-Q (among other keys) to jump to the App list/search helped a lot. I can safely say I don't need the start menu anymore.

Sounds delicious. Windows has been the same for near 20 years, I'm excited to relearn it.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 29, 2012, 12:33:42 AM
Also, fwiw, I'm starting to really love this thing after getting the hang of it. The switching between desktop and Metro isn't as jarring now that I've visualized how the layering works.

I think what throws a lot of people for a loop is they sort of try to think of the desktop and "Metro" as "modes", like something you switch your whole computer into, but it really doesn't work that way. The start screen is more like a nexus of worlds (in a Philip Jose Farmer or Kingdom Hearts-esque cosmology) where everything comes together
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 29, 2012, 01:03:11 AM
The way I think of it - and I don't know if this is close to what MS intended or not - is that the Start menu has been removed because it's been replaced by the Metro Start Page. Metro is a full-screen start menu with a subset of light full-screen apps for tablet-style data consumption. Everything else is Windows 7. TAH DAH.

Upgraded this afternoon, have been loving it ever since. If desktop users don't quickly learn EVERY WinKey + ?? shortcut they are going to be sobbingly disappointed, however.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 29, 2012, 01:11:12 AM
I'm pretty happy with the mouse ways of doing everything, but YMMV
Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 01:13:12 AM
The way I think of it - and I don't know if this is close to what MS intended or not - is that the Start menu has been removed because it's been replaced by the Metro Start Page. Metro is a full-screen start menu with a subset of light full-screen apps for tablet-style data consumption. Everything else is Windows 7. TAH DAH.

My thoughts exactly. The minute you realize that is the moment you stop raging, and if you don't you might wanna see a doctor.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2012, 01:18:31 AM
aside from the obvious gaming stuff I can use my Surface as my primary machine all night long which is kinda nice. Im not switching to a laptop because the virtual keyboard is too annoying. Surface, even the RT is well designed from a usability standpoint- spec/performance hounds have plenty of beef though im sure- legitimately in some cases even
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 29, 2012, 11:19:56 AM
the start menu ultimately exists because we had to strategically migrate users in a useful, constructive way to a touch model for windows, and also because THE MARKET.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 02:01:45 PM
Sounds like someone needs to take one for the team and check them out. If it ends up erasing my D drive, I swear to Lucifer, everyone in this thread will pay.

I can report that the "Remove Everything and Reinstall Windows" works beautifully like a fresh install, even from my cheap Upgrade License. If you allowed Win to sync your settings, some of your Metro options will be retained, otherwise everything on the OS hard drive will be wiped clean. The tool gave me a few options before starting which I appreciated (e.g. "Wipe all your drives or OS drive only" and "Delete all files or Thoroughly clean drive" I chose the latter and it took 6 hours to complete).

Everything right now has been reset to factory settings, from documents, apps, and drivers all the way to my registry. I'm a happy camper. All hail Balmer.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 02:03:05 PM
Even my Chrome problem has been solved. Now the Metro icon takes me to the Desktop Chrome, current session even and not a new window.

Edit: The whole confusion is caused by what default browser I had set, by the way. If I set Chrome as my default browser the Start Menu icon turns black and instances launched from it takes place in the Metro  mode of Chrome, it's also worth noting that Metro IE is disabled in this case. When I change my default browser to IE, Metro IE is enabled and the Start Menu Chrome icon reverts back to pointing to the Desktop app, thus disabling Chrome's Metro mode.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2012, 02:32:53 PM
Sounds like someone needs to take one for the team and check them out. If it ends up erasing my D drive, I swear to Lucifer, everyone in this thread will pay.

I can report that the "Remove Everything and Reinstall Windows" works beautifully like a fresh install, even from my cheap Upgrade License. If you allowed Win to sync your settings, some of your Metro options will be retained, otherwise everything on the OS hard drive will be wiped clean. The tool gave me a few options before starting which I appreciated (e.g. "Wipe all your drives or OS drive only" and "Delete all files or "Thoroughly clean drive" which I chose and took 6 hours to complete).

Everything right now has been reset to factory settings, from documents, apps, and drivers all the way to my registry. I'm a happy camper. All hail Balmer.

Was this the System Refresh?
Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Nope, the option right below it, literally titled "Remove Everything and Reinstall Windows."
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2012, 02:42:45 PM
Oh, okay. I was thinking about reinstalling fresh, but I'll probably just do that instead.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2012, 03:25:13 PM
http://arstechnica.com/features/2012/10/windows-8-and-winrt-everything-old-is-new-again/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/better-on-the-inside-under-the-hood-of-windows-8/

both worth reading- I know I learned a few thangz.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 29, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
Just stay with W7.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 29, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
Even my Chrome problem has been solved. Now the Metro icon takes me to the Desktop Chrome, current session even and not a new window.

Edit: The whole confusion is caused by what default browser I had set, by the way. If I set Chrome as my default browser the Start Menu icon turns black and instances launched from it takes place in the Metro  mode of Chrome, it's also worth noting that Metro IE is disabled in this case. When I change my default browser to IE, Metro IE is enabled and the Start Menu Chrome icon reverts back to pointing to the Desktop app, thus disabling Chrome's Metro mode.

I already explained that a few pages back in the other thread!
Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 04:21:33 PM
I HAD NO IDEA!

Edit: wait, you didn't explain that changing the default browser changes the behavior of them on Metro.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: demi on October 29, 2012, 04:23:11 PM
Where are my impressions of Windows 8 games that have achievements :drool
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2012, 04:24:48 PM
Jetpack Joyride
Better than Angry Birds.
8.8/10
Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
Can we merge the two threads please? This is getting too confusing.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: demi on October 29, 2012, 04:40:13 PM
Not unless you're willing to pay more than Microsoft did for ad space.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2012, 04:41:55 PM
ive always adored jetpack joyride- best runner is best
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 29, 2012, 04:56:29 PM
I like how according to the achievements, you "make the scientists fall down". I didn't make them fall down, I shot them a dozen times with a minigun!
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 29, 2012, 05:11:17 PM
ive always adored jetpack joyride- best runner is best

I've never played it on anything other than my iPhone.  Are there other features/better features on xbox live?
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2012, 05:18:43 PM
well achievements- I THINK gadgets are new? If you were done with it on your iPhone you'd be done with it here.
Title: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 29, 2012, 05:48:00 PM
Gadgets have been added to the iOS version too. It doesn't matter, the game rocks on every platform I tried it on.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 29, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
Yeah the thing I love about that game is that (as far as I've played, anyway) is that when you're seemingly done with the star ratings system...it restarts and you can do it all over again with your new costumes and gadgets, and can do so for as long as you enjoy playing.  Game has crazy replay value.
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: Positive Touch on October 29, 2012, 06:34:30 PM
28hrs and counting in ios version of jetpack joyride :rock
Title: Re: The Windows 8 Experience
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 29, 2012, 06:52:45 PM
damn  :o

best ios game