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Title: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/
Disney has just confirmed that it has agreed to acquire George Lucas‘ Lucasfilm Ltd, and that includes rights to the Star Wars franchise that will now continue on. The companies have targeted a 2015 release for Star Wars: Episode 7 and plan future movies based on the movies’ most iconic franchises. The stock and cash transaction is worth an estimated $4.05 billion, and the companies have scheduled a conference call in a half-hour to discuss the deal, which was approved by the Disney board and Lucas, the sole Lucasfilm shareholder.

As for the new Star Wars installment, the companies only would say that Lucasfilm co-chairman Kathleen Kennedy would be executive producer on Episode 7 and any more Star Wars movies, and Lucas would serve as creative consultant. There was no indication about where the story would pick up, though technically in the franchise’s chronology it would follow Star Wars: Episode 6 — Return Of The Jedi, the third film in the initial trilogy that came out in 1983.

As part of the deal, Kennedy will become president of Lucasfilm, reporting to Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn. Additionally she will serve as the brand manager for Star Wars, whose feature films have earned a total of $4.4 billion in global box to date. And that doesn’t even take into account the franchise’s massive merchandising clout.

“Lucasfilm reflects the extraordinary passion, vision, and storytelling of its founder, George Lucas,” said Disney chairman and CEO Bob Iger in a release announcing the deal. “This transaction combines a world-class portfolio of content including Star Wars, one of the greatest family entertainment franchises of all time, with Disney’s unique and unparalleled creativity across multiple platforms, businesses, and markets to generate sustained growth and drive significant long-term value.”

Disney is paying approximately half of the consideration in cash and issuing approximately 40 million shares at closing based on Disney’s stock price on October 26. Lucasfilm is 100% owned by Lucasfilm chairman and founder Lucas.

“For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see Star Wars passed from one generation to the next,” said Lucas. “It’s now time for me to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I’ve always believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was important to set up the transition during my lifetime. I’m confident that with Lucasfilm under the leadership of Kathleen Kennedy, and having a new home within the Disney organization, Star Wars will certainly live on and flourish for many generations to come. Disney’s reach and experience give Lucasfilm the opportunity to blaze new trails in film, television, interactive media, theme parks, live entertainment, and consumer products.”

Lucasfilm’s businesses include live-action film production, consumer products, animation, visual effects, and audio postproduction. Disney also acquires the technologies from the San Francisco-based company, which operates under the names Lucasfilm Ltd., LucasArts, Industrial Light + Magic, and Skywalker Sound.

Needed its own thread.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 30, 2012, 04:41:36 PM
Crossposting from the movie thread:

If the film is out in 2 1/2 years, I wonder how long this has been in the works?

Episode II came out exactly 3 years after Episode I, and Episode III came out exactly three years after Episode II.

As did Empire and Jedi.

What I'm getting at is there is probably an outline or a script or something for VII. You don't just buy a company and then be like "oh yeah, new Star Wars movie in a couple years." I'd love to know how long this deal has been in the works, and when the idea of making Episode VII materialized.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Dickie Dee on October 30, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
Kaboom
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 04:46:33 PM
Pretty major pickup for Disney, definitely. And who would have guessed that Lucas would ever let go of his baby while he was still alive? Maybe there's also hope for a new Indiana Jones movie that isn't terrible, unfortunately Disney's been really iffy with big-budget adventure movies.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Steve Contra on October 30, 2012, 04:51:08 PM
Manabyte strokes out while...stroking it.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 30, 2012, 04:54:40 PM
This is fucking huge!

I don't think it's just Star Wars that makes this huge, but rather ILM and Skywalker Sound and LucasArts are all included. JESUS, talk about cheap when you consider that ILM does nearly 60% of the visual effects in major motion pictures. I think George knew what he was doing, Fox has been hesitant about green lighting another Star Wars film for nearly a decade now. So best way for him to get around that was to sell it all. That mad mother fucker!
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Tasty on October 30, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
Disney buying all the fan-nerd companies. First Marvel, now Lucasfilm. What's next, Wizards of the Coast?
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
George Lucas just made $2 BILLION today in cash money. Rollin' in scrilla.

Disney buying all the fan-nerd companies. First Marvel, now Lucasfilm. What's next, Wizards of the Coast?

Obsidian? :omg
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 30, 2012, 05:05:16 PM
I think that the third park over in Anaheim is now gonna happen for sure with this acquisition they have no excuse in making a marvel/lucasfilms park. Hell Epcot better watch out...
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Diunx on October 30, 2012, 05:05:24 PM
Where is Mana? Can somebody get a hold on this motherfucker so I can make sense of all this!
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 05:09:52 PM
Where is Mana? Can somebody get a hold on this motherfucker so I can make sense of all this!

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=39136.msg1576476#msg1576476
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 30, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
Manabyte just committed nerd seppuku
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Barry Egan on October 30, 2012, 05:12:07 PM
I don't really care about the star wars franchise, but I am like 100% certain this sequel will be better than the prequels.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: archnemesis on October 30, 2012, 05:16:29 PM
Good thing I stopped caring about this franchise in 1999.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 05:17:43 PM
What Disney really needs to do is reboot the prequel trilogy.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Diunx on October 30, 2012, 05:47:53 PM
Does this come with Lucasarts? I want a Monkey Island movie now Disney!!!
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 30, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
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"It's now time for me to pass 'Star Wars' on to a new generation of filmmakers," said Lucas, 68, in a statement.

 :lol
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: pilonv1 on October 30, 2012, 06:54:40 PM
Chances of a good Star Wars movie increased dramatically today
Title: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ManaByte on October 30, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
They own Indy. Andrex is a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
I guess Disney got sick of trying to replicate PotC success and just went out and bought a bigger franchise. And now I'm wondering what's going to happen to Indiana Jones?

Paramount originally signed a 5-movie deal, but I'm not sure if any other deal was signed since then or what the terms of that deal might be beyond that. Disney could probably wrangle it away if they really wanted to, though.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 07:02:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqlTi7lkhY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIkqX5fG_tA
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 30, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
I guess Disney got sick of trying to replicate PotC success and just went out and bought a bigger franchise. And now I'm wondering what's going to happen to Indiana Jones?

Paramount originally signed a 5-movie deal, but I'm not sure if any other deal was signed since then or what the terms of that deal might be beyond that. Disney could probably wrangle it away if they really wanted to, though.

Disney and Paramount did The Avengers together, so doing Indy together isn't much of a stretch.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 07:11:09 PM
Chances of a good Star Wars movie increased dramatically today

John Carter.

Haven't seen it, but it's probably better than the Prequel Trilogy.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Steve Contra on October 30, 2012, 07:18:40 PM
It is.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 07:38:58 PM
Hopefully Disney applies the Disney touch and cockblocks Lucas on creative shit.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: etiolate on October 30, 2012, 08:04:39 PM
For all the self-loathing based hate of Star Wars and all the prequel based hate of Star Wars, the original three had an element to them of mythos and character that I am not sure either Lucas or Disney really has anymore.

So I'd rather not they push out a Star Wars that is adequate but nowhere near timeless.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: pilonv1 on October 30, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
Chances of a good Star Wars movie increased dramatically today

John Carter.

Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 30, 2012, 08:09:36 PM
This is probably the best thing to happen to the Star Wars franchise in like... 20 years or whatever.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 30, 2012, 08:37:45 PM
So, why isn't ILM doing the CG for Iron Man 3? Surely this had to be in the plans for Disney for a while now. I also really think Episode 7 is a waste of time. Disney is better off making smaller Star Wars films focused on other aspects of the universe, due to the extremely poor reception of the prequel trilogy. Not to mention those would be easier to handle in terms of budget and scope. Bounty hunters, let's go!

Oh and is Disney picking up the game division? I gotta wonder what happens to SW 1313 and other games they've been working on.

Firstly: Iron Man 3 is a co-production with Paramount and Chinese interests. So I'm thinking that the Chinese wanted to keep the cg production in its country to increase the piece of pie they'll get off the movie. Remember Disney is in all reality just the distributor for Paramount.

Secondly: Yes this is everything Lucas. It includes all of the IP's, all of the companies (ILM, LucasArts, Skywalker Audio, etc), and it includes any new original IP's created by Lucas in his liftime. All of the companies will continue to exist in their present form too.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Dickie Dee on October 30, 2012, 08:49:47 PM
They said somewhere they want to run ILM as-is - a studio independent entity
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 10:02:23 PM
I also really think Episode 7 is a waste of time. Disney is better off making smaller Star Wars films focused on other aspects of the universe, due to the extremely poor reception of the prequel trilogy.

$1 billion
$650 million
$848 million

What the die hard fans think doesn't mean a thing, a new Star Wars trilogy is practically money in the bank.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 30, 2012, 10:12:06 PM
yeah, not to mention all the Jar Jar toys and such. If the films are even moderately well-reviewed, they'll be the biggest things in the multiplex by far that month

Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 10:27:35 PM
I personally find Tangled as proof that they have the ability to make a good Star Wars film because it was charming, well written, and had great visual aesthetic. Best Disney film since The Lion King. If Lucas himself has very little creative output, I think SWVII could be the best thing for Star Wars in decades.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Mandark on October 30, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
Well, I wouldn't expect the people who made Tangled would be making a new SW movie, or that it would naturally translate.

I'll go with the conventional wisdom: a new SW should be better than the prequels, but there's plenty of room for improvement where it could still end up not being good.  Hope we get a HD release for the untouched original trilogy, but not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 30, 2012, 11:01:03 PM
Fortunately for Disney, the bar is set so low for Star Wars, there's almost no way they can fail to meet expectations.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: The Sceneman on October 30, 2012, 11:05:12 PM
I personally find Tangled as proof that they have the ability to make a good Star Wars film because it was charming, well written, and had great visual aesthetic. Best Disney film since The Lion King. If Lucas himself has very little creative output, I think SWVII could be the best thing for Star Wars in decades.

Treasure Planet >>>>>>>>>> Lion King >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tangled
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 30, 2012, 11:40:03 PM
Someone Photoshop all the Disney Princesses alongside Leia in the bikini stat
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 30, 2012, 11:46:40 PM
For those people like me who hate watching videos and would rather read shit... here is this intresting piece of info:

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ANOTHER UPDATE: In case you're curious about whether George Lucas is happy to be $4 billion richer today, or you'd like to hear him discuss what other, non-money-related reasons he had for yielding control of his franchise to Disney, here's this just-posted video in which he discusses the merger with Lucasfilm's new head, Kathleen Kennedy. In it, Lucas also describes the "treasure trove" of Star Wars stories he's bequeathed to his heir—including story treatments for Episodes 7, 8, and 9, plus "a bunch of other movies"—with Kennedy adding that they're already sitting down with writers to discuss plans for what to do with those. Lucas also says he'll be happy to be just "a fan" now, obviously forgetting that Star Wars fans are never happy. 
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 12:03:07 AM
Getting George Lucas away from the full screenplay is the first big step. He's good at world-building, but not so good at actually writing lines of dialogue that people will actually have to say aloud. Getting him out of the director's chair is the next big step, since he's also not so good at coaxing good performances out of his actors.

Which is not to say that the people he's replaced with will necessarily be better, but at least there's a CHANCE now.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 31, 2012, 01:21:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/McCem.gif)
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2012, 01:49:25 AM
Well, I wouldn't expect the people who made Tangled would be making a new SW movie, or that it would naturally translate.

I'll go with the conventional wisdom: a new SW should be better than the prequels, but there's plenty of room for improvement where it could still end up not being good.  Hope we get a HD release for the untouched original trilogy, but not holding my breath.

Of course, I'm just drawing the comparison, only because it shows that Disney still has creative spark. It's more than I can say for the guys at Lucasfilm, and that's not even bringing Pixar into the picture.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2012, 02:45:12 AM
4 billion is a lot of money, but Disney is going make that money back in less than five years. Even though the brand isn't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Verdigris Murder on October 31, 2012, 07:18:42 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-free-radical-vs-the-monsters (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-free-radical-vs-the-monsters)
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ManaByte on October 31, 2012, 08:09:07 AM
Kathleen Kennedy has longtime connections to Spielberg.

Disney distributes Spielberg's Dreamworks movies now (War Horse, Lincoln, etc.)

There's a real chance we'll finally see a Spielberg-directed Star Wars.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 31, 2012, 08:28:30 AM
Now THAT is super-intriguing.

Del Toro would also be interested I assume. Schedule-wise i'm sure it's impossible but still.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Momo on October 31, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
This is a good thing
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 31, 2012, 09:08:11 AM
I hope Disney buys Christopher Nolan next
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
someone get lawrence kasdan on the phone asap

also, phantom menace is one of the few movies i've ever fallen asleep watching in the theater

that incomprehensible senate scene, ugh, zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 31, 2012, 09:46:31 AM
I hope Disney buys Christopher Nolan next

Batman vs The Avengers vs Star Wars vs Jason, Summer 2018!
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: tiesto on October 31, 2012, 10:05:52 AM
FUCK I thought this stupid series was done with :'(
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
I'm pulling for a Rian Johnson-directed Star Wars movie.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 31, 2012, 10:24:20 AM
Great big chunks of Revenge of the Sith were ghost-directed by Spielburg.  Open secret.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2012, 10:38:56 AM
The problem with making any new Star Wars movies is that you are shackled to it's past. So, the storylines will most likely be focused on a new Skywalker brood and a bunch of fan service to characters of old (to get those parents to show up). When what it needs is a completely new direction and cast of characters.

This isn't a movie for me, but just do Harry Potter with the Jedi Academy as the backdrop. Easy way to get all the old fogeys on the screen and still introduce a whole new generation of tween actors/actresses to play new roles.

I wouldn't even mind A New Hope reboot (and I hate reboots) at some point. I would love to see what someone else does with it.

 

Title: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ManaByte on October 31, 2012, 10:51:31 AM
Great big chunks of Revenge of the Sith were ghost-directed by Spielburg.  Open secret.

He only directed the lava waterfall sequence in animatic form. That's it.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 31, 2012, 10:56:52 AM
Nope.  His fingerprints are alllllll over that film.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 31, 2012, 11:30:23 AM
It was also the least bad of the prequel trilogy.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 31, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
Maybe Star Wars can be good again now.

But the last SF Disney made...

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Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 31, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
It was also the least bad of the prequel trilogy.

Parts of it were actually good Id say.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 31, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
I used to think it was roughly as shit as the first two, but I saw it again recently and it's easily the third best film after ANH and ESB.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 12:01:15 PM
Revenge of the Sith is a big step down from A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, but it was at least a somewhat decent movie, unlike the other two prequels. Phantom Menace had annoying kids and Jar-Jar Binks splashed across the screen, though it wasn't as horribly offensive as Attack of the Clones and its subplot about the clone production investigation that was rendered pointless in the end and those abysmal scenes between Anakin and Padme. Attack of the Clones is probably the worst of the six by a green country mile. Phantom Menace would be tolerable if it didn't have kid Anakin saving the day by hitting random buttons on the controls of his ship and if Jar-Jar Binks had never existed.

RotS still had a lot of issues, though.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Steve Contra on October 31, 2012, 12:14:39 PM
It was also the least bad of the prequel trilogy.
What?  revenge of the Sith was god-awful.  Phantom Menace is the least etrrible, but it's still fucking awful. 
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Eric P on October 31, 2012, 12:26:32 PM
jesus christ i can't even comprehend the amount of merchandising we'll see
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 12:30:04 PM
jesus christ i can't even comprehend the amount of merchandising we'll see

More than usual?
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Diunx on October 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
I was unlucky enough to be in the states during the Episode one premier, Jar-Jar...jar-jar EVERYWHERE!!!!
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Eric P on October 31, 2012, 01:00:28 PM
jesus christ i can't even comprehend the amount of merchandising we'll see

More than usual?

probably

this is just pure speculation based on the already extant merchandising empire both companies had
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2012, 01:41:55 PM
What?  revenge of the Sith was god-awful.  Phantom Menace is the least etrrible, but it's still fucking awful. 

That's my opinion too. TPM had some high points, whereas RotS was just thoroughly below-average. 
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
I used to rate Return of the Jedi the highest, but now I feel like it was the first sign of the franchise going off the rails. The forced humor, making Han Solo a goofball, the dichotomy between the humor and the darker stuff, and just a lot of little things ultimately hurt it compared to the other two. I'll still rewatch it indefinitely, though. A New Hope is definitely the most "simplistic" of the six movies, but I actually think that works in its favor. It's not trying to be overly complicated or do these long character or story arcs, it's a simple scifi-adventure movie that's infinitely fun to watch. Nothing wrong with doing that sometimes.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 31, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
TPM would've been a decent scifi flick if their casting director wasn't so goddamned awful.  pretty much every person on tatooine including anakin, his mother, and the envoy surrounding amidala were terrible.  Gut those actors, gut jar-jar, and at the very least you'd have a fun movie with a cool racing segment and a fun-to-watch albeit pointless lightsaber battle at the end.

oh and midichlorians.  get rid of those too.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2012, 03:30:55 PM
The prequels were doomed to begin with. You had a story that was already pre-determined (for the most part) and a fanbase that grew up ravenously digesting mature sci-fi. There was no way you could please them and still appeal to your other target demo (7-14 yr old boys). Every misstep that script made was because of trying to solve that riddle.

Each consecutive movie kept trying to placate the 30 year old CBG and became less and less fun.

I think almost every action scene in TPM is great, it's everything in-between those scenes where the movie goes off the rails.

Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 04:05:54 PM
The prequels were doomed to begin with. You had a story that was already pre-determined (for the most part) and a fanbase that grew up ravenously digesting mature sci-fi. There was no way you could please them and still appeal to your other target demo (7-14 yr old boys). Every misstep that script made was because of trying to solve that riddle.

That's part of it, but I think it was also a mistake for Lucas to try to do everything on his own, he was the sole writer and sole director [though apparently he had a co-writer on Episode II]. By that point, he wasn't the young filmmaker out to prove himself to the world anymore, he was an aging businessman who hadn't sat in the director's chair since 1977. He should have brought in some young directors and some veteran writers, and set himself up as the overseer. So, it just ended up being a mess with no real focus and mishmash of differing tones and ideas.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Dickie Dee on October 31, 2012, 04:15:19 PM
Edgar Wright would be a good pick

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The prequels were doomed to begin with. You had a story that was already pre-determined (for the most part) and a fanbase that grew up ravenously digesting mature sci-fi. There was no way you could please them and still appeal to your other target demo (7-14 yr old boys). Every misstep that script made was because of trying to solve that riddle.

I don't think the prequels had to be bad. Anakin and Obi Wan being bros and then not bros and a volcano was pretty much all they had to start with, and is pretty ripe with potential. It's not like they were hamstrung by the existing material.

Lucas and co. should've asked at every step of the way "does adding this make the movie good for the reasons the OT was good", but they didn't.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 04:17:38 PM
Jedi did have the best space battle, I'll get it that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZDa09gRDq8

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Lucas and co. should've asked at every step of the way "does adding this make the movie good for the reasons the OT was good", but they didn't.

Lucas was the [legendary] creator and the one voice with absolute sway over every aspect of the movie. No one was going to step up and question his decisions.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 31, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
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Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 31, 2012, 06:24:13 PM
Edgar Wright would be a good pick

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The prequels were doomed to begin with. You had a story that was already pre-determined (for the most part) and a fanbase that grew up ravenously digesting mature sci-fi. There was no way you could please them and still appeal to your other target demo (7-14 yr old boys). Every misstep that script made was because of trying to solve that riddle.

I don't think the prequels had to be bad. Anakin and Obi Wan being bros and then not bros and a volcano was pretty much all they had to start with, and is pretty ripe with potential. It's not like they were hamstrung by the existing material.

Lucas and co. should've asked at every step of the way "does adding this make the movie good for the reasons the OT was good", but they didn't.

As much as I adore Wright, I don't think this sort of film is his preferred work.  The dude thrives on subtle visual humor as well as being a quick-shot filmmaker.  That doesn't fit star wars.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 01, 2012, 11:56:14 AM
Someone Photoshop all the Disney Princesses alongside Leia in the bikini stat

Yes, pls.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 02, 2012, 12:15:41 PM
Jedi did have the best space battle, I'll get it that:

Jedi was my favorite as a little kid because of the space battle, but I still hated the Ewoks. I remember when the Ewoks movies came out. I was so pissed that weren't space battles.

Once I got to junior high, Empire became my favorite.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Yeti on November 07, 2012, 06:16:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCxKUuOn_94
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 07, 2012, 09:53:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCxKUuOn_94

R20D2 at 2:02, worst UV-mapping of all time.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 07, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
So Disney also bought Wilco?

no Jaba the huts rights doesn't transfer
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2012, 08:51:14 AM
http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/10/31/happy-halloween/
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2012, 04:28:32 PM
Upon acquiring Lucasfilm Ltd. last week, the Walt Disney Co. announced it was making a seventh episode of the Star Wars franchise for release in 2015. Here is what viewers can expect in the Disney-produced sequel:

- Phil Collins to sing opening crawl
- French kisses between siblings to be cut by one-third or more
- Ewok babies; also, Yoda babies, Wookiee babies, and droid babies
- Sassy fairy droid that you feel bad for being attracted to
- A senile, gray-furred Chewbacca
- A wizard casts a spell that turns R2-D2 into a real boy
- Randy Newman–penned theme song called “Long, Long Ago We Were Friends”
- There’s no delicate way to say this so here it is: lots of hot 12-year-olds

:lol
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2012, 12:51:22 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2012, 10:27:50 PM
Michael Arndt [Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3] will write the new Star Wars movie. Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher will make appearances.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/new-star-wars-movie-michael-388424
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ManaByte on November 12, 2012, 07:44:05 PM
There's a rumor going around that they might bring back Vader  :-\

Only way they'd do that is as a Force ghost, but it isn't happening.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 12, 2012, 08:26:40 PM
that report is 100 percent bullshit

now the latinoreview stuff that they've seen the treatment...that I believe

also, I approve of the writer.  TS3 was great.

I think they should go with brad bird as the director.  one of disney's best, and also did really well directing ghost protocol even though the script sucked.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 12, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
A Star Wars movie directed by Brad Bird? *swoon*
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2012, 09:06:24 PM
A Star Wars movie directed by Brad Bird? *swoon*
QFT
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cormacaroni on November 12, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
oh shit better call it off in that case
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Eric P on November 12, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
Quentin Tarantino writing and directing a Star Wars Gaiden
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 12, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
A Star Wars movie directed by Brad Bird? *swoon*

Meh.

 ::)
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: pilonv1 on November 13, 2012, 07:21:59 AM
I assume they're just bringing back the suit, not the character. New Sith guy with 2010s styling.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 13, 2012, 09:10:48 AM
Quentin Tarantino writing and directing a Star Wars Gaiden

Star Wars: Revengeance
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 13, 2012, 09:16:58 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if they just floated that Vader thing out there to gauge public reaction.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Diunx on November 13, 2012, 11:04:58 AM
lol of course Vader is gonna be there one way or another.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
Vader is dead. He cannot come back, as a ghost he wouldn't be Vader. Maybe only in a flashback?

Maybe they cloned Vader?
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 13, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
There's just no way that bringing back Vader [other than as a Force ghost] would make any sense, or not be incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 13, 2012, 01:04:15 PM
hwo Forcse gosts diffent reglar gosts??
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 13, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Force ghosts are blue.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 13, 2012, 01:12:43 PM
:lol

Also they are explainable though the science of Midi-chlorians. 
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Diunx on November 13, 2012, 01:19:40 PM
There's just no way that bringing back Vader [other than as a Force ghost] would make any sense, or not be incredibly stupid.

And since went aren´t force ghost incredibly stupid?
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 13, 2012, 01:38:52 PM
There's just no way that bringing back Vader [other than as a Force ghost] would make any sense, or not be incredibly stupid.

And since went aren´t force ghost incredibly stupid?

Since never, but at least it would make some sense within the context of how Return of the Jedi ended. It would also mean that his appearance would be very brief.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: cool breeze on November 13, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
This is Disney and Star Wars.  At the end of the day, (man)children eat up that Vader merchandise.

speaking of manchildren, I wonder if a future Kingdom Hearts will have star wars in it.  Weeaboos and westaboos united by one crappy game.  :omg
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Diunx on November 13, 2012, 02:17:38 PM
KH 3 delayed five more years to add light keysword.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 13, 2012, 10:31:13 PM
if the Vader rumor is true...I'm breaking something. jesus fuck
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: pilonv1 on November 14, 2012, 12:42:55 AM
This will end up like The Simpsons for me where anything after the year 2000 is ignored
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ManaByte on November 14, 2012, 08:16:07 AM
The Vader rumor was made up by a British tabloid on the same page where some old woman in Scotland claimed to have Obama's real birth certificate.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 14, 2012, 10:28:46 AM
Vader's not dead, he's shilling cellphones in Japan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= iLmARy6s6jo
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 14, 2012, 12:34:21 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/11/09/why-espn-is-the-worlds-most-valuable-media-property-and-worth-40-billion/


Very interesting article on Disney and the cable networks they own.

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But once again, cable networks were the driving force behind Disney’s earnings, responsible for 57% of the company’s total operating income. The cable channel doing most the heavy lifting for Disney is ESPN, which along with a contribution from the Disney Channel, generates more profits than the rest of Walt Disney combined.

Kind of strange to think that in an indirect way, ESPN is the main reason why Disney owns the Star Wars universe now.

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ESPN is worth $40 billion according to a research report this summer from Wunderlich or barely ten times earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization of $3.9 billion. Disney as a whole is currently worth $84 billion.


Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Dickie Dee on November 14, 2012, 03:37:36 PM
Not surprised ESPN is a cash cow, but had no idea it was THAT profitable.

It makes this story  (http://deadspin.com/5929361/how-espn-ditched-journalism-and-followed-skip-bayless-to-the-bottom-a-tim-tebow-story) of their lack of any journalistic standards even more depressing - why should they care.

(not that "sports journalism" is anymore essential than "games journalism", but still...)
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on November 22, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
http://boingboing.net/2012/11/21/lawrence-kasdan-new-star-wars.html
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That didn't take long: within one month, we got all of our screenwriters lined up for the new Disney-Lucasfilm Star Wars trilogy, and one of them is a pretty reliable man for the job. As we reported earlier, Michael Arndt will be taking Episode VII, and now it's being reported that Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg will take on Episodes VIII and IX, though it's unspecified who will take which script. If you recall, Kasdan wrote both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, and if I may make a wild prediction, I'm going to call the final episode for him. Let the veteran round out the new trilogy. Kinberg is also hardly a slouch, having written Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Sherlock Holmes, plus he's currently writing the sequel to X-Men: First Class, on which he was a producer. (In other words, experience in sci-fi/fantasy franchises.) Both Kasdan and Kinberg will also join Kathleen Kennedy as producers on both films.

All three of the new movies will be based on story notes from George Lucas, but will be written and directed by others. Probably the best thing for Star Wars that George Lucas could ever do at this point.

The Hollywood Reporter (and several other sites) seem to have this news all but confirmed. Disney-Lucasfilm have not offered a comment yet, except to say that they will make an official announcement on StarWars.com, where they confirmed Arndt's role. For the moment, that is still the most recent news item.

I am afraid to get my hopes up too much, but there is a chance Star Wars will be redeemed. Hopefully it will be as inexplicable and fast as it was handled at the end of RotJ.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2012, 03:21:27 PM
- Sassy fairy droid that you feel bad for being attracted to

:rofl
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2012, 03:26:43 PM
http://boingboing.net/2012/11/21/lawrence-kasdan-new-star-wars.html
Quote
That didn't take long: within one month, we got all of our screenwriters lined up for the new Disney-Lucasfilm Star Wars trilogy, and one of them is a pretty reliable man for the job. As we reported earlier, Michael Arndt will be taking Episode VII, and now it's being reported that Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg will take on Episodes VIII and IX, though it's unspecified who will take which script. If you recall, Kasdan wrote both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, and if I may make a wild prediction, I'm going to call the final episode for him. Let the veteran round out the new trilogy. Kinberg is also hardly a slouch, having written Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Sherlock Holmes, plus he's currently writing the sequel to X-Men: First Class, on which he was a producer. (In other words, experience in sci-fi/fantasy franchises.) Both Kasdan and Kinberg will also join Kathleen Kennedy as producers on both films.

All three of the new movies will be based on story notes from George Lucas, but will be written and directed by others. Probably the best thing for Star Wars that George Lucas could ever do at this point.

The Hollywood Reporter (and several other sites) seem to have this news all but confirmed. Disney-Lucasfilm have not offered a comment yet, except to say that they will make an official announcement on StarWars.com, where they confirmed Arndt's role. For the moment, that is still the most recent news item.

I am afraid to get my hopes up too much, but there is a chance Star Wars will be redeemed. Hopefully it will be as inexplicable and fast as it was handled at the end of RotJ.

Quote from Something Awful:

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The best thing that could happen now is that episodes 7, 8, and 9 could all be brilliantly written and well directed, ushering in a new golden age for Star Wars, loved by hardcore fans and the public at large. And Lucas would have to live knowing that he truly sucked hard when given the reigns of his own creation and no one loves him, and that it was all his fault.


 :'(
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 23, 2012, 04:06:16 PM
George Lucas will have to cry himself to sleep on his bed made of million dollar bills for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Barry Egan on November 23, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
he hasn't cared about anything his fans or critics have said so far, and I doubt he's going to start now.  Although it would be fun if he had a total meltdown about it.
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: chronovore on April 18, 2013, 10:58:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0vs9gYydo
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 18, 2013, 11:02:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BBhNkywMJY
Title: Re: Disney purchases LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode VII slated for 2015
Post by: ManaByte on April 18, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BBhNkywMJY

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/04/18/PATTON-OSWALT-STAR-WARS.jpg)