THE BORE

General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 06:50:49 PM

Title: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
Let's all talk about how lonely we are and stuff.  :'(
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 18, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
How's your mom doing these days?
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 06:52:31 PM
good
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 18, 2012, 06:57:21 PM
on paper i probably should be super depressed and stuff but i'm most definitely not. sorry bro.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 06:57:58 PM
tell me your secret
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 18, 2012, 07:11:26 PM
I just don't care.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Barry Egan on December 18, 2012, 07:12:52 PM
I've basically been depressed for the past decade with occasional bouts of feeling well.  It's tough bro.  Get some treatment if you can.   
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
it sucks. i wish i knew what to do. well I know what to do. I need to stop thinking about her, but I can't and I don't know why I do. its like being tortured nonstop. fukkin sucks.  :'( :'( :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: CajoleJuice on December 18, 2012, 07:18:38 PM
Whatever.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on December 18, 2012, 07:21:02 PM
Whatever.
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Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
I like to read SA's E/N Forum cuz it shows theres people with worse problems than u and it makes u laff sometimes at the stupidity of people

http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=214
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Atramental on December 18, 2012, 07:42:40 PM
I'll be depressed if I don't stop cramming all these high carb foods down my throat.  :'(

I can't let Fat Atra make a comeback.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 07:48:16 PM
HEY!  :'(
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 07:49:07 PM
weed makes all the depression go away :smug
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pickle on December 18, 2012, 07:49:25 PM
(http://usermeds.com/static/496fed265d90d5fb17c833543806e0c1.jpg)

It's good stuff brah.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 18, 2012, 07:58:47 PM
I hate my life too, but it's silly hate that could probably be helped with some actual effort.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
Yeah, I am glad she is out of my life.. but damn I haven't gotten laid since.  :'(
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
if lack of sex is keeping ya down and depressed just go fuk some bar slut. thats like "depression for babbys" step 1 level depression
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 08:07:36 PM
It's not just that. My friend are always busy and I can go weeks without getting a text or phone call from someone! I'm lonely dammit!
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oXPgZjm6Uk

if u watch this and cry or feel down then ur depressed m8 try it i'm a doctor©
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 08:12:15 PM
Good god, the Beatles suck
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
ur not depressed
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Huff on December 18, 2012, 08:15:29 PM
join a bowling league
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 08:17:33 PM
oh and if it helps: people only put the good part of their life on facebook . they hide the down periods that every has
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: king of the internet on December 18, 2012, 08:29:01 PM
oh and if it helps: people only put the good part of their life on facebook . they hide the down periods that every has

except for the people who decide to throw their pity parties with facebook updates, be grateful if you have none of those
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 08:31:53 PM
the girl i fancy is one of those and she uses me as a emotional tampon for the problems and im a sucker and reply and enable her to do those things  :-\
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 18, 2012, 08:46:26 PM
Drink more- my solution
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 18, 2012, 08:47:56 PM
Try to keep your self occupied and do things to improve yourself like working out, etc.  It sounds cheesy and stupid but I've felt like 100 times better about myself since I went back to school.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 18, 2012, 08:48:57 PM
That can help- but eventually you just feel shitty and need alcohol
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 18, 2012, 08:51:10 PM
Also- you guys sound like a bunch of fucking pussies re: women.  The best thing you can do is to work on making yourself a complete person by improving yourself and your life.  Then, when you put yourself in situations where you interact with women, they will pick up on that.  If you're a sad fucking nerdlinger who wants to friendzone yourself to every woman you know, they'll pick up on that too.  You've got choices to make, fucking be responsible for them.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 18, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
That can help- but eventually you just feel shitty and need alcohol

Sure, but the point is not to have that be your default plan every weekend :P
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 18, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
It's not just that. My friend are always busy and I can go weeks without getting a text or phone call from someone! I'm lonely dammit!

I know the feeling.  I'm considering dumping my old batch of friends and investing in some new ones.  My problem is that most of my friends have moved away and don't even attempt to contact me back.  They come to town to visit other friends and don't even tell me they're around until they're already gone.

I either need new friends or a girlfriend.  Some people my family goes to church with are trying to get me hooked up with a girl that goes there that has a kid of her own.  They say she's really nice, but super exhausted from raising a kid by herself.  I know the feeling all too well.  I saw her there last Wednesday when I went and they said she came Sunday morning looking really nice (apparently for me) and I had to work...

:fbm
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 18, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
SHHHH- I miss bitter creepy old guy.

Anyway, get into beers- explore the world of booze
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 18, 2012, 09:00:17 PM
(http://usermeds.com/static/496fed265d90d5fb17c833543806e0c1.jpg)

It's good stuff brah.

I'll second this recommendation.* During the last month and a half, it has, in combination with wellbutrin, helped reduce my depression, GAD, and maybe even my social anxiety (small sample size).

*this recommendation should not be relied upon for any decision or action. You are advised to consult a health-care professional in the appropriate field with respect to the suitability of this or any other prescription medication. By breathing in oxygen, you agree that under no circumstances will the user formerly known as malek be liable for any damages or injury whatsoever, including but not limited to damages arising out of sexual dysfunction.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 18, 2012, 09:28:32 PM
I've taken Wellbutrin before.  It's good stuff, but it's costly in 'Murica.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Oblivion on December 18, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Wait, you're just depressed cause you're lonely? Here I thought it was something serious.

I was in a massive state of depression a few years ago. It got to the point that I wasn't able to concentrate on the most basic things. I was borderline suicidal, even.

I slowly started getting better some time in 2010, and was almost back to normal. Then I saw this thread and all the  memories came back.

THANKS A LOT, ASSHOLE.  :maf
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Robo on December 18, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
I recommend taking a hiatus from masturbating. 

How can anyone be content with the indolence of their day-to-day when you have a load of jizz splashing around inside you?  Or when you don't, even?
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 18, 2012, 10:12:13 PM
Wait, you're just depressed cause you're lonely? Here I thought it was something serious.

I was in a massive state of depression a few years ago. It got to the point that I wasn't able to concentrate on the most basic things. I was borderline suicidal, even.

I slowly started getting better some time in 2010, and was almost back to normal. Then I saw this thread and all the  memories came back.

THANKS A LOT, ASSHOLE.  :maf

That's actually a pretty common thing, to be depressed because you're lonely.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: BlackMage on December 18, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Wait, you're just depressed cause you're lonely? Here I thought it was something serious.

I was in a massive state of depression a few years ago. It got to the point that I wasn't able to concentrate on the most basic things. I was borderline suicidal, even.

I slowly started getting better some time in 2010, and was almost back to normal. Then I saw this thread and all the  memories came back.

THANKS A LOT, ASSHOLE.  :maf

I feel better now. :smug
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 18, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
are those over the cfounter or prescription? I talked to my doctor about depression and he said I wasnt. He didn't even give me any tests or anything just "youre losing weight depressed people gain weight".

guess I can't work on self improvement and feel bad at the same time guys :fbm
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 18, 2012, 10:32:47 PM
Most people who complain about women don't even talk to them. Make some damn small talk at Subway, in the library, at work, etc. The goal isn't to get a date here, the goal is to just...talk to women and figure out how good you are at thinking on your feet. I'm not talking about forcing stupid comments to impressed chicks - just being yourself and trying to avoid bullshit small talk ("so...how about this weather huh").

I got a chicks number after standing next to her in a line at a Pistons game and hearing her ringtone was Zeppelin. I was just like "ah Kashmir? Awesome." She probably assumed I only knew it from that Diddy song but we wound up talking about Zeppelin and bam, number exchange.

Shit is easy. Just don't get a creep and don't overreach
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 18, 2012, 11:01:14 PM
Lets be real- Black Mage probably got more this year than a lot of us- and hes still bummed.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 18, 2012, 11:03:01 PM
He's so good looking that he should be in it every hour though.  Its total failure on his part.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 18, 2012, 11:15:32 PM
I've taken Wellbutrin before.  It's good stuff, but it's costly in 'Murica.

i get 90 a month for about $40.  Great stuff, helped me cut down on smoking a lot and I don't bottom out on a daily basis anymore. yay
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 18, 2012, 11:26:37 PM
Actually, basing the majority of your self-worth around the attention you receive from women is the basis for most male's depression. If you can rewire your brain away from doing that, you already are halfway there.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Mandark on December 18, 2012, 11:27:48 PM
Make some damn small talk at Subway

Always with the Subway, this one!
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 18, 2012, 11:32:19 PM
Gotta respect the Subway.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Trent Dole on December 18, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
I like to read SA's E/N Forum cuz it shows theres people with worse problems than u and it makes u laff sometimes at the stupidity of people

http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=214
Oh man SA E/N is full of the stupidest most self absorbed people ever. Uber sad and hilarious at the same time.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 18, 2012, 11:34:38 PM
are those over the cfounter or prescription? I talked to my doctor about depression and he said I wasnt. He didn't even give me any tests or anything just "youre losing weight depressed people gain weight".

guess I can't work on self improvement and feel bad at the same time guys :fbm

You're doctor sucks, IMO. 

True story:  You know how to diagnose depression?  You tell your doctor that you're depressed.  A doctor can't tell you how you feel.  A few months after my wife died, I told my doctor that I was depressed and I wanted to quit smoking.  He agreed about the depression and prescribed Wellbutrin to help me stop smoking as well.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 18, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Make some damn small talk at Subway

Always with the Subway, this one!

I always get the macadamia cookie and if there's a girl next to me in line I'll tell her it's my favorite cookie. Always garners a blush or smile
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 18, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
Most people who complain about women don't even talk to them. Make some damn small talk at Subway, in the library, at work, etc. The goal isn't to get a date here, the goal is to just...talk to women and figure out how good you are at thinking on your feet. I'm not talking about forcing stupid comments to impressed chicks - just being yourself and trying to avoid bullshit small talk ("so...how about this weather huh").

I got a chicks number after standing next to her in a line at a Pistons game and hearing her ringtone was Zeppelin. I was just like "ah Kashmir? Awesome." She probably assumed I only knew it from that Diddy song but we wound up talking about Zeppelin and bam, number exchange.

Shit is easy. Just don't get a creep and don't overreach

would you agree that the key component to being about to do this is empathy? most small talk comes from identifying something about another person and caring enough about their feelings towards it to be able to bring it up in conversation?
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: tiesto on December 18, 2012, 11:55:11 PM
Actually, basing the majority of your self-worth around the attention you receive from women is the basis for most male's depression. If you can rewire your brain away from doing that, you already are halfway there.

I still have problems doing that, it sucks. You'd have thought after 30 years on this planet I would've learned by now. :gloomy
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Huff on December 19, 2012, 12:07:02 AM
are those over the cfounter or prescription? I talked to my doctor about depression and he said I wasnt. He didn't even give me any tests or anything just "youre losing weight depressed people gain weight".

guess I can't work on self improvement and feel bad at the same time guys :fbm

all antidepressents (besides st johns wort which i wouldn't recommend) are going to be prescription

and any change in weight (+/-) can be a symptom. doctors hand out prescriptions for ADs like candy, i find it hard to believe he just blew you off
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 12:09:07 AM
My life is awesome and I still get bummed- people can tell me I don't get to feel shitty but fuck them. I get to deal with depression AND feeling guilty for being depressed when my life is awesome! Figure that shit out.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:12:18 AM
ya i was expecting him to help me out but he just blew it off flat out saying "i dont think youre depressed you wouldnt be losing weight" and nothing. I dunno, its not like i wanna kill myself that kind of depression, I just want to be normal again  :-\
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 12:15:44 AM
Andy I'll be your friend. I don't even like girls, so you don't have to worry about me ditching you to go on dates and do stupid relationship stuff. We can even jerk off together.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:16:17 AM
Welcome to the club.

I've been thinking about suicide more and more lately.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 12:17:02 AM
Loser, suicide is for pussies. You're stuck with the rest of us.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:19:45 AM
Sounds terrible.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2012, 12:21:57 AM
Most people who complain about women don't even talk to them. Make some damn small talk at Subway, in the library, at work, etc. The goal isn't to get a date here, the goal is to just...talk to women and figure out how good you are at thinking on your feet. I'm not talking about forcing stupid comments to impressed chicks - just being yourself and trying to avoid bullshit small talk ("so...how about this weather huh").

I got a chicks number after standing next to her in a line at a Pistons game and hearing her ringtone was Zeppelin. I was just like "ah Kashmir? Awesome." She probably assumed I only knew it from that Diddy song but we wound up talking about Zeppelin and bam, number exchange.

Shit is easy. Just don't get a creep and don't overreach

would you agree that the key component to being about to do this is empathy? most small talk comes from identifying something about another person and caring enough about their feelings towards it to be able to bring it up in conversation?

I wouldn't say it has much to do with empathy, if anything it's more of a social thing; just like people who say "bless you" after someone coughs aren't religious/superstitious. Asking about the weather isn't high on most people's "give a shit" meter, it's just an annoying ice breaker.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2012, 12:24:56 AM
Make some damn small talk at Subway

Always with the Subway, this one!

Listen man, you can't just go to Olive Garden without a special occasion.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2012, 12:25:44 AM
Actually, basing the majority of your self-worth around the attention you receive from women is the basis for most male's depression. If you can rewire your brain away from doing that, you already are halfway there.

This is incredibly good advice
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 19, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
are those over the cfounter or prescription? I talked to my doctor about depression and he said I wasnt. He didn't even give me any tests or anything just "youre losing weight depressed people gain weight".

guess I can't work on self improvement and feel bad at the same time guys :fbm

all antidepressents (besides st johns wort which i wouldn't recommend) are going to be prescription

and any change in weight (+/-) can be a symptom. doctors hand out prescriptions for ADs like candy, i find it hard to believe he just blew you off

Your doctor sounds like a dick, kinda like the GP I used to go to before I'm like "This dude is a dick" and found a new one.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:29:39 AM
ya he is definitely a dick but I dont even know how you go about getting a new doctor . i dont even trust having the same GP as my mother cuz i never know if he tells them shite ~
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2012, 12:31:12 AM
me and my dad have the same doctor. he's seen both of our dicks :fbm
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 12:31:16 AM
You ask for opinions or ask for a new doctor? Or find a different clinic.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:32:21 AM
u know how my mom is cousin demi
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
are you asking a physician this? why are you asking a physician for anti-depressants? ???
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 12:33:33 AM
me and my dad have the same doctor. he's seen both of our dicks :fbm

they both know you're gay tho, so w/e
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:34:29 AM
are you asking a physician this? why are you asking a physician for anti-depressants? ???

i wasnt asking for AD i said "hey brah i think i might be depressed" and he just said "no".
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 19, 2012, 12:35:41 AM
It's relatively easy to find a new MD.  First, start off with one in your network (if you have insurance), then look up reviews online, ask some of their patients about the service they provide, and ultimately go see them.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2012, 12:37:09 AM
me and my dad have the same doctor. he's seen both of our dicks :fbm

they both know you're gay tho, so w/e

do you like black bears, or is the hair too curly for u
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Robo on December 19, 2012, 12:38:16 AM
me and my dad have the same doctor. he's seen both of our dicks :fbm

But your dick looks just like your dad's, anyway.  I know mine's does.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:39:36 AM
are you asking a physician this? why are you asking a physician for anti-depressants? ???

i wasnt asking for AD i said "hey brah i think i might be depressed" and he just said "no".

why are you talking about depression with a physician? ??? go to a therapist.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:42:35 AM
um cuz u gotta be referred to a therapist for insurance reasons
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:43:25 AM
I go to a therapist weekly at a Houston counseling center for lgbt people. In my sessions we talk about depression, goals, suicide, gender identity, sexual identity;etc it really helps just to talk to someone. Go on google and look for a local therapist and read up on them.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:44:03 AM
ya I have and would if I couild pay for it, but my insurance is through the local hospital so i have to go thru them :piss
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Ohhhhhh
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 19, 2012, 12:45:14 AM
are you asking a physician this? why are you asking a physician for anti-depressants? ???

i wasnt asking for AD i said "hey brah i think i might be depressed" and he just said "no".

why are you talking about depression with a physician? ??? go to a therapist.

um cuz u gotta be referred to a therapist for insurance reasons

That, and sometimes a physician can take care of minor depression without need of a therapist.  I was also told by my psychology professor last semester that many licensed therapists can't prescribe meds anyway (he was a practicing licensed therapist too).
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:45:49 AM
Well, my counseling center has a thing for people without insurance where you only have to pay 15 bucks per session. Look into it.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 19, 2012, 12:46:32 AM
That's really not bad.  I might even look into that.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 12:47:55 AM
It's wage dependent, however, so it scales. 15 is the cheapest.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 19, 2012, 01:03:33 AM
The closest places like that to me are over an hour away. :(
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 19, 2012, 03:15:51 AM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pilonv1 on December 19, 2012, 03:39:22 AM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.

agreed, they're not the same thing

if you want to spice things up add in an anxiety disorder
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2012, 03:42:07 AM
Fistfull I don't get you. You have a nice job and you're witty. You watch a lot of porn. So why aren't you interested in pursuing women? Even casually just to see if you could do it?
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 03:48:33 AM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.

indeed.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MCD on December 19, 2012, 04:17:37 AM
Not depressed, just feeling all empty inside.

I either need a woman or a long, long vacation away from work, college and the family.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pilonv1 on December 19, 2012, 04:18:36 AM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2012, 04:20:29 AM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.

agreed, they're not the same thing

if you want to spice things up add in an anxiety disorder

I have social anxiety disorder  :-\
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pilonv1 on December 19, 2012, 04:24:07 AM
that sucks :(

people are the worst though
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MCD on December 19, 2012, 04:26:22 AM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.
Now I am depressed

Thanks a lot man
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pilonv1 on December 19, 2012, 04:27:58 AM
I am trying to empower you to think positively and not believe you need another person to be happy
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2012, 04:28:24 AM
that sucks :(

people are the worst though

Yeah.  Gonna suck when I'm done with school (which itself sucks) and have to find a real job where I can't work from home anymore.  I have a really hard time looking people in the eye unless I've known them forever and I mumble a lot, which makes me just about the WORLD'S BEST INTERVIEW for a job.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Fifstar on December 19, 2012, 04:29:31 AM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.

This. Much more likely you don't have a woman because you're depressed than the other way round.

Also, my relationship is pretty much the best thing in my life and I still have periods were I feel depressed and driveless because of other shit, just being with a woman won't solve your other problems.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MCD on December 19, 2012, 04:42:14 AM
I am trying to empower you to think positively and not believe you need another person to be happy
It's cool mate.

I do need a vacation though. Too tired from my daily routine.

Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 19, 2012, 09:09:57 AM
Fistfull I don't get you. You have a nice job and you're witty. You watch a lot of porn. So why aren't you interested in pursuing women? Even casually just to see if you could do it?

/shrug

not interested in putting through the effort? the cost/benefit doesn't look that appealing. having a burden of another person on my mind. i'm sure there are other excuses i could come up with as well.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 19, 2012, 09:11:18 AM
are those over the cfounter or prescription? I talked to my doctor about depression and he said I wasnt. He didn't even give me any tests or anything just "youre losing weight depressed people gain weight".

guess I can't work on self improvement and feel bad at the same time guys :fbm

your doctor is full of shit.  Under-eating is just as much a symptom as over-eating.  Go see an actual psychologist or psychiatrist.  Psychologist will be cheaper and can recommend you to a psychiatrist who can write the prescription.  Not saying you are depressed, just that your doctor blew you off with that one.   

This is the problem with diagnosing mental conditions-- everyone thinks they're an expert on it and end up saying dumb shit.  >:(   For all you know, when your doctor gets sad, he over eats, thus he thinks that's the benchmark for depression...this is how average joe assesses mental illness (or people who don't believe mental illness exists.)


Actually, basing the majority of your self-worth around the attention you receive from women is the basis for most male's depression. If you can rewire your brain away from doing that, you already are halfway there.


Couldn't be truer.  If you're actually, medically depressed, you won't be cured by your girlfriend. 

and sex is a more temporary fix than a small bag of weed. 
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 19, 2012, 09:17:39 AM


So you're afraid of rejection? cool.

in general? most definitely.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 09:38:01 AM
me and my dad have the same doctor. he's seen both of our dicks :fbm

they both know you're gay tho, so w/e

do you like black bears, or is the hair too curly for u

They don't do much for me, sorry. But I'll watch all the same.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
lol, only women feel better by having Kids because they're fucked in the head already.

"I want another baby~"

"Let's have a baby~"
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 19, 2012, 10:25:21 AM
are those over the cfounter or prescription? I talked to my doctor about depression and he said I wasnt. He didn't even give me any tests or anything just "youre losing weight depressed people gain weight".

guess I can't work on self improvement and feel bad at the same time guys :fbm

your doctor is full of shit.  Under-eating is just as much a symptom as over-eating.

.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 10:29:13 AM
under eating is way more awesome though imo- im on Zoloft but it doesn't do shit except keep anxiety spikes (and resulting attacks) from happening. Doesn't fix THE BUMMER- I think for me its a seasonal thing.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
A tanning bed can actually go a pretty long way in helping mitigate the 'winter blahs'. Just don't go crazy and Snooki-fy yourself.



Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 10:47:24 AM
I tried light therapy, didn't do much for me- bought one of those fancy light things
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 19, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
I tried light therapy, didn't do much for me- bought one of those fancy light things

I bought one, too. I Blu myself.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2012, 10:51:08 AM


So you're afraid of rejection? cool.

in general? most definitely.
Do you have female friends?
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
I tried light therapy, didn't do much for me- bought one of those fancy light things

I bought one, too. I Blu myself.

haha, I meant one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-goLITE-BLU-Therapy-Device/dp/B001I45XL8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1355932372&sr=8-6&keywords=light+therapy

Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Mupepe on December 19, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
I'm not depressed.  I'm pretty happy all in all.  I guess I don't belong in this thread
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
Thanks for the update, Mupepe.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Mupepe on December 19, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
Thanks for the update, Mupepe.
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Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
I find the physical act of getting into the bed and sitting there for 20 minutes and letting my mind drift is the majority of the good it does for me. A forced meditative state in some ways.


But, it's just one thing. Mitigating depression is something that needs to be pecked away at by doing dozens of different things. You just have to find the right combination that helps keep your head above water.

Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 19, 2012, 11:22:59 AM


So you're afraid of rejection? cool.

in general? most definitely.
Do you have female friends?

not currently. only RL friends are people from work.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 11:41:15 AM
To my credit I did do some dating this year- didn't really go anywhere though. Works crazy and the person I was dating was a lot of work thanks to distance etc.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 19, 2012, 11:43:52 AM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.

Eh... YMMV

Anyway having a kid will.

Just like anything else, it's a quick fix. If you're suffering from depression or some other form of mental illness, you'll quickly habituate, go back to your normal baseline of behavior but now you'll mess up your child as well.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 19, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.

Eh... YMMV

Anyway having a kid will.

Just like anything else, it's a quick fix. If you're suffering from depression or some other form of mental illness, you'll quickly habituate, go back to your normal baseline of behavior but now you'll mess up your child as well.


assuming you have actual, brain chemical related depression. 
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 19, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.

Eh... YMMV

Anyway having a kid will.

Just like anything else, it's a quick fix. If you're suffering from depression or some other form of mental illness, you'll quickly habituate, go back to your normal baseline of behavior but now you'll mess up your child as well.


assuming you have actual, brain chemical related depression.

Yep, that's why I said mental illness.

I work with too many children who have mentally ill parents who don't take care of themselves. Pretty sad stuff.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 11:49:56 AM
Saying having a child will help your depression is like saying becoming a stand-up comedian will fix your social anxiety.

I feel that kind of simplistic thinking is why we have so many shitty, young parents today.

Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 11:57:57 AM
thanks guys ima look for a clinic or a psychiatrist today :)
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2012, 12:01:29 PM
Having a kid can make things worse and ruin the kid's life; IMO it's a rather selfish act to rush into parenthood if you aren't ready. It's a big ass responsibility, not a cheat code to make things better. Get a cat instead
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
having a kid in general is the most selfish thing you can do, but who gives a fuk it can change everything as long as u aint already fukkin broken
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pilonv1 on December 19, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
Having a woman won't make you feel any better, you just think it will.

Eh... YMMV

Anyway having a kid will.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you don't have any children
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 06:09:11 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZdlYGcAxL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)

Hey dummy! stop being depressed!
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 19, 2012, 07:09:23 PM
Methodis is losing weight because he is getting in shape and eating right, not because he is miserable. If I'm remembering correctly, he just has actual real-life sadness like heartbreak and work to deal with. His doctor of course only has 3 minutes to talk to him and is probably only going to address a physical issue anyway so he's not going to dole out anti-depressants to someone whose health is visibly improving without some other compelling reason, I'd hope.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 08:23:22 PM
ya youre 100% right
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2012, 08:30:37 PM
Obviously, the solution is to cut yourself a bunch and then just show him that

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Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
i am no wheres near self harm levels and won't be, i'm on the "i feel like shite" levels.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 19, 2012, 08:46:23 PM
There was about a decade where everything went shit side up for me; hardly anything went right in my life.  Then it kind of stopped.  It took about another three years (2010) before I could say I recovered entirely.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 19, 2012, 09:37:05 PM
Was feeling down.  Met the girl tonight.  She's pretty cute and really sweet.  Not depressed anymore.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 19, 2012, 09:39:43 PM
congrats buddy :)
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 19, 2012, 09:43:48 PM
Thanks!  This is the first time that I've met a girl that I've really been interested in her other than a "I bet she sexes good" kind of way.  The whole think was arranged through my family's church, so my son was there with me.  He was getting restless there as it was wrapping up and her kid was getting tired, so those two powers combined into me having just enough time to say, "It was really nice meeting you!" and nothing more before we parted ways.

I hope I didn't screw things up.  I would actually like to see this girl again.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 19, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.
No doubt. I doubt there is truly anything wrong with me.

But I truly feel like I'm just pretty socially dumb. I'm not talking about just women, hell I'm not even sure I'm quite straight. I'm not sure about anything really. I just don't know how to talk to anyone unless I'm completely 100% comfortable with a person. I simply do not know how to engage people, and I fear talking with anyone beyond a formal way. It's like it's hard enough to open up and share my personality and if they react in any negative way I just crawl back into my shell and because even more unable to communicate because I can't read them and figure out how they react. It's annoying and stopped me from having actual friends and a fulfilling social life.

I also just feel simply dumb when talking to normal people, they talk about things I simply don't understand or care about. And it's just small stuff. It makes me 2nd guess myself. I don't know. it's just sometimes I feel so disconnected from people and I really don't want to.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: pickle on December 19, 2012, 09:51:30 PM


So you're afraid of rejection? cool.

in general? most definitely.
Do you have female friends?

not currently. only RL friends are people from work.

Most relationships just kinda "happen." If you're not out meeting new people, you're not going to run into any cute girls who think you're pretty neat. (And their titties won't end up in your mouth.)
Title: Depression Bore
Post by: Huff on December 19, 2012, 09:56:30 PM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.
No doubt. I doubt there is truly anything wrong with me.

But I truly feel like I'm just pretty socially dumb. I'm not talking about just women, hell I'm not even sure I'm quite straight. I'm not sure about anything really. I just don't know how to talk to anyone unless I'm completely 100% comfortable with a person. I simply do not know how to engage people, and I fear talking with anyone beyond a formal way. It's like it's hard enough to open up and share my personality and if they react in any negative way I just crawl back into my shell and because even more unable to communicate because I can't read them and figure out how they react. It's annoying and stopped me from having actual friends and a fulfilling social life.

I also just feel simply dumb when talking to normal people, they talk about things I simply don't understand or care about. And it's just small stuff. It makes me 2nd guess myself. I don't know. it's just sometimes I feel so disconnected from people and I really don't want to.

Social anxiety is a real thing and you may want to consider seeking some kind of help to deal with it. And it sounds like you want help
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2012, 09:04:25 PM
someone on SA said to pick up the book feeling good by david burns so i did. i dont know if you believe in cognitive therapy or w/e but its helping a little bit, might be worth checking out.

as for social anxiety they all swear by "How to Make friends" or w/e that 1930 book is called.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Groogrux on December 22, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514bXvl1HtL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034 (http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034)


That one?  I remember it being made fun of so much in cartoons and other TV shows that I never thought it was something to be taken seriously...
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
yeah they all say to read it over because apparently even though its almost 100 years old all the concepts still work.

personally i'm digging Feeling Good so far.

http://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-The-Mood-Therapy/dp/0380810336/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356230964&sr=8-1&keywords=feeling+good
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 22, 2012, 10:09:10 PM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.
No doubt. I doubt there is truly anything wrong with me.

But I truly feel like I'm just pretty socially dumb. I'm not talking about just women, hell I'm not even sure I'm quite straight. I'm not sure about anything really. I just don't know how to talk to anyone unless I'm completely 100% comfortable with a person. I simply do not know how to engage people, and I fear talking with anyone beyond a formal way. It's like it's hard enough to open up and share my personality and if they react in any negative way I just crawl back into my shell and because even more unable to communicate because I can't read them and figure out how they react. It's annoying and stopped me from having actual friends and a fulfilling social life.

I also just feel simply dumb when talking to normal people, they talk about things I simply don't understand or care about. And it's just small stuff. It makes me 2nd guess myself. I don't know. it's just sometimes I feel so disconnected from people and I really don't want to.

exactly with you, except on the dude-loving thing.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2012, 10:14:53 PM
i bought how to win friends. will give it a spin after feeling good and let you guys know. I have some p bad social anxiety when it comes to groups of people at like a party, I just kinda shun away or talk to my one friend. im fine 1 on 1 tho  ???
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
I'm on meds and have done cognitive therapy for GAD/SAD- the meds keep panic attacks under control but ultimately, getting over this stuff is about someone WANTING to be a different way- we can all sit around saying we want to be better- but being better requires a lot- more than anyone without the condition will ever recognize. Its a far more private battle than you'd expect- considering the nature of the goal.

Use encounter therapy and pace yourself- you've been bad at this for years, a few more wont hurt if it means you learn shit that actually sticks.

*MAF is not a social butterfly or a doctor so grain of salt from someone who understands.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2012, 11:50:57 PM
what did you use for cognitive therapy ?
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2012, 11:55:07 PM
A counselor, I have good health coverage.

Basically he just listened to me and suggested encounter therapy scenarios. That's all it really is, helping your mind work through the nature of your stress reactions and developing a therapy around em.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to see it as something only you can fix, because ultimately it is. A therapist will listen to you and suggest stuff- but really its all stuff you could think up on your own if you WANTED it bad enough.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Barry Egan on December 23, 2012, 07:30:56 AM
I'm not sure people can always figure it out on their own.  I think cultivating a real sense of responsibility in your own life often requires the guidance of another.  If you've had an ideal childhood, your parents foster that in you.  If you've had absent parents, it's going to be a lot harder.  I think the BOOTSTRAPS culture where you are encouraged to figure everything out on your own is sometimes harmful to people who need assistance. I would also definitely recommend seeing a real human being over self-help books which cannot call you on your bullshit.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2012, 10:19:33 AM
I've seen that just as easily become a crutch. Plus real human beings paid to care well...cost a lot of money- and finding one that legitimately cares for free, and is also willing to spend the time is rare if you're in a situation where youre trying to find help being with people.

The thing is, as right as you are about people calling you on your own bullshit, by working with others you spend a fair amount of time calling them on theirs. They THINK they know, but they don't because they aren't you. The best they can do is say what they think- which again, is only somewhat relevant. Cognitive therapy has a limitation, and that's on the person getting the therapy- a counselor cant make you want to be something else- only you can. Anyone who thinks they can ends up forming a support relationship that won't end because neither person is capable of fixing the problem.

So sure, see someone if you can- that costs money/friends so I wont assume that's an option, but cultivate some interest, research, and goals around your self improvement on your own. As much as people poo poo bootstrapping cause its not feel good whatever- its application relevant here.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 23, 2012, 10:23:49 AM
i wouldn't reccomend self help books for someone whose severly depressed and wants to off themselves, but i think it's totally fine for someone in my case who is just trying to get over something, or for the other guys who want ways to fix social anxiety.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2012, 10:25:18 AM
i wouldn't reccomend self help books for someone whose severly depressed and wants to off themselves, but i think it's totally fine for someone in my case who is just trying to get over something, or for the other guys who want ways to fix social anxiety.

Pretty much- if your posts had more of a "GUYZ END OF MY ROPE" my advice would be different OR I wouldn't have given advice cause I've never been to that kind of place mentally
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 23, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
i can't do books...too much like following a set of instructions for me and at this point, I feel like I've heard every last word people can say about self-help...there's nothing that's going to hit me like an epiphany in any of these books.  When it gets really bad, I talk to my folks or brother.  It's not the figuring out what to do part that I struggle with, it's the actually doing it part.  :lol   Except for my actual depression, turns out I shouldn't have been bottoming out mentally on a daily-weekly basis for most of my life...I had no idea what that was about and didn't pinpoint until this year.  when I finally told my folks about that (because stuff that happened earlier this year kicked my ass to the point where I couldn't really hide it anymore), it wasn't long before I got to a doctor and on meds.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 23, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
Possibly some people ITT are confusing clinical depression with BEING SAD because things in their life are actually sad.
No doubt. I doubt there is truly anything wrong with me.

But I truly feel like I'm just pretty socially dumb. I'm not talking about just women, hell I'm not even sure I'm quite straight. I'm not sure about anything really. I just don't know how to talk to anyone unless I'm completely 100% comfortable with a person. I simply do not know how to engage people, and I fear talking with anyone beyond a formal way. It's like it's hard enough to open up and share my personality and if they react in any negative way I just crawl back into my shell and because even more unable to communicate because I can't read them and figure out how they react. It's annoying and stopped me from having actual friends and a fulfilling social life.

I also just feel simply dumb when talking to normal people, they talk about things I simply don't understand or care about. And it's just small stuff. It makes me 2nd guess myself. I don't know. it's just sometimes I feel so disconnected from people and I really don't want to.

exactly with you, except on the dude-loving thing.
Well I wouldn't say I'm gay, everyone else would. Lack of confidence in myself leads me to 2nd thinking it. Pretty much since I was 13 I guess people have thought I was gay. Even my own extended family members will ask my mom if I am. I'm not sure what I do, but it's very defeating. I mean there's nothing wrong with being gay, but I just don't get why pretty much everyone thinks I am. Maybe its the way I carry myself? I'm not sure how. I don't dress particaly interestingly. I guess it's my interests? No I'm not eaxctly macho, but I'm not really metro or anything, I think I'm just an average person. No, I'm not a skirt chaser, but thats because I lack confidence more then anything. It's just being labled as gay has been a running thing in my teenage and adult life and it's just kind of annoying. And it just adds up to me not wanting to really communicate with people, because even if they arent I sure think they are judging me and getting the wrong idea about me, which just leads me to not being able to open up.

Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 23, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Ya my whole family thinks I'm gay too.  But no I'm just creepy and socially inept.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2012, 02:58:12 PM
My counselor suggested I go to meetup.com. I told him bout bebpos success with meetup And he suggested it. Some days I will do nothing but sleep for literally no reason other than to sleep. In my freshman year I would lock myself in my college dorm room for days at a time, sleep all day, see it was night time, get in bed, sleep some more. Then in the morning I would go and skip class, eat at the caf, and go sleep some more.

 My current counselor hasn't put me on antidepressants yet but we are trying ways to make me break out of my shell and find ways to feel happy and not feel suicidal or take up alcoholism like I was starting to earlier this year. Meetup and better, healthy friendships is a start we decided. If you're on my facebook you saw my post the other day about cutting people off and healthy adult relationships. It is a part of strategy with my counselor to kick out anyone of my social circle who I feel isn't a friend and find new ones. This included I used to really feel close to when I was a kid and in high school. It was really hard simply cutting ties.

 The thing is, when I hang out with people, like from work or whatever, I feel good and happy. But when I look in the mirror again I get dysphoric and start to hate myself again. I am counting the days till I get estrogen. Both counselor and I think it will help me tremendously in terms of self confidence and loving of myself.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2012, 03:29:45 PM
I'm too distant thanks to years of moving and shitty family/social situations. I have some really great friends but I dunno if i'll ever get into another long-term relationship. That said, caring less and less every year. Still gets me sometimes though- which is why I do online dating; JUST IN CASE.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Barry Egan on December 23, 2012, 03:55:34 PM
Quote
The thing is, as right as you are about people calling you on your own bullshit, by working with others you spend a fair amount of time calling them on theirs. They THINK they know, but they don't because they aren't you. The best they can do is say what they think- which again, is only somewhat relevant.

To me, this is the most important part about therapy.  It's really good to have a dynamic where you feel comfortable telling them you think they're wrong and they can say the same to you.  Learning to be comfortable with that give and take is what allows for fulfilling relationships in everyday life, and you just can't get that from a book.  But I concede that this is more a pseudo-scientific Freudian understanding of psychology than the more mainstream cognitive stuff, which I don't have any experience with.  Psychoanalysis is fun cause being demeaning and accusing your analyst of stuff is the road to health! feels good man.   

Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2012, 04:14:04 PM
Therapy really makes me feel better just being able to talk about it. That in itself is therapeutic. My therapist says I use certain words that give off my desires. Like, he says I use the word "normal" a lot. And looking back on our sessions, it's true. A therapist is useful because they not only bounce off ideas, they are able to critique your own thought process and tell you why it's wrong and ways to fix that.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 23, 2012, 06:18:38 PM
one of the main things this book so far suggests is that when you get a bad feel you write it down. not the emotion "i feel bad' but what made you think that "im bad at women" , then he wants you to identify it with one of these:

All-or-nothing thinking (splitting) – Conception in absolute terms, like "always", "every", "never", and "there is no alternative". (See also "false dilemma" or "false dichotomy".)

Overgeneralization – Extrapolating limited experiences and evidence to broad generalizations. (See also faulty generalization and misleading vividness.)

Magical thinking - Expectation of specific outcomes based on performance of unrelated acts or utterances. (See also wishful thinking.)

Mental filter – Inability to view positive or negative features of an experience, for example, noticing only a tiny imperfection in a piece of otherwise useful clothing.

Disqualifying the positive – Discounting positive experiences for arbitrary, ad hoc reasons.

Jumping to conclusions – Reaching conclusions (usually negative) from little (if any) evidence. Two specific subtypes are also identified:

Mind reading – Sense of access to special knowledge of the intentions or thoughts of others.

Fortune telling – Inflexible expectations for how things will turn out before they happen.

Magnification and minimization – Magnifying or minimizing a memory or situation such that they no longer correspond to objective reality. This is common enough in the normal population to popularize idioms such as "make a mountain out of a molehill." In depressed clients, often the positive characteristics of other people are exaggerated and negative characteristics are understated. There is one subtype of magnification:

Catastrophizing – Inability to foresee anything other than the worst possible outcome, however unlikely, or experiencing a situation as unbearable or impossible when it is just uncomfortable.

Emotional reasoning – Experiencing reality as a reflection of emotions, e.g. "I feel it, therefore it must be true."

Should statements – Patterns of thought which imply the way things "should" or "ought" to be rather than the actual situation the person is faced with, or having rigid rules which the person believes will "always apply" no matter what the circumstances are. Albert Ellis termed this "cognitive distortion".

Labeling and mislabeling – Limited thinking about behaviors or events due to reliance on names; related to overgeneralization. Rather than describing the specific behavior, the person assigns a label to someone or himself that implies absolute and unalterable terms. Mislabeling involves describing an event with language that is highly colored and emotionally loaded.

Personalization – Attribution of personal responsibility (or causal role or blame) for events over which a person has no control.



and then write down reasons why its NOT true like "girls talk to me so i can't be that bad" blah blah blah etc. seems like a pretty neat exercise
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: rodi on December 26, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
I've been back a year, and I feel further away from my family than ever. I basically created some happy illusion for myself of them, but upon returning, the honeymoon phase was short. I'm always sad, angry, with little bits of happiness mixed in there (mostly when I'm either alone or with my sister, who is the only person I really get along with anymore). I've always been socially awkward, but now I get so paranoid sometimes, especially in crowds or on trains (both is the case most often as I commute during rush hour). I think I may need to talk to someone. I might be taking out other issues on my family. I'm just never sure anymore what I'm really feeling, if its just a show I'm used to putting on or if I really do feel that way. I'm sick of being so angry all the time.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: Mupepe on December 26, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
I've been back a year, and I feel further away from my family than ever. I basically created some happy illusion for myself of them, but upon returning, the honeymoon phase was short. I'm always sad, angry, with little bits of happiness mixed in there (mostly when I'm either alone or with my sister, who is the only person I really get along with anymore). I've always been socially awkward, but now I get so paranoid sometimes, especially in crowds or on trains (both is the case most often as I commute during rush hour). I think I may need to talk to someone. I might be taking out other issues on my family. I'm just never sure anymore what I'm really feeling, if its just a show I'm used to putting on or if I really do feel that way. I'm sick of being so angry all the time.
I was this way for a while.  I would advise seeing a professional.  But something I picked up that helped me out a lot was to carry a small notepad and pen.  When it would turn to 11 and I would feel like taking it out on someone I would just start to write thoughts.  Anything that came to mind (it got easier the more I did it).  Then when you've calmed down a bit go and read it.  I wrote down some pretty insightful things that helped me figure out what was actually bothering me.  And it helped me to stay under control when I would go back and read it and see some of the horrible things I was thinking.  It was really frightening when I realized what I was capable of saying/thinking about the people that loved me.
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 26, 2012, 07:00:57 PM
yeah thats one of the concpets outlined in feeling good, write down what you feel when you feel bad. makes sense that it would also calm you down and feel better.

going through how to influence and make friends now. its a good book, great read. although so far the concepts are;

1. don't insult others
2. be over praiseful
3. take genuine interest in the other person
4. no one cares what you want, they just want to hear what they want

i forgot the tohers so far. lol. its a good read though, talks alot about carnegie and lincoln (cuz its from the 30s)
Title: Re: Depression Bore
Post by: rodi on December 27, 2012, 12:23:41 AM
Yeah, I'll try that out... the writing on a notepad thing. Usually, I say some choice hurtful things, retreat to my room to be alone, play video games or surf the internet, and say some more hurtful things to anyone that follows me to check if I'm okay. I mean, I apologize usually afterwards, but I can imagine someone getting really sick of being a punching bag over and over again. I'm really sick and disgusted with myself when all I do is rag on my family when I get pissed off for no reason.