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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Huff on December 19, 2012, 02:09:31 PM

Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Huff on December 19, 2012, 02:09:31 PM
http://kotaku.com/5969846/thq-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy

wonder what will happen to the games
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 19, 2012, 02:13:20 PM
They'll probably be able to stay afloat until their current slate of games get released. All of which will probably bomb.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: maxy on December 19, 2012, 02:14:58 PM
Maybe Nintendo buys Volition.
They are desperate for Third party games,right?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Huff on December 19, 2012, 02:15:49 PM
Homefront 2 is a winner fo sho
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 19, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Just stay afloat long enough for me to buy The Stick of Truth.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on December 19, 2012, 02:21:06 PM
Investment firm ClearLake are apparently gonna aquire all the assets.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/thq-inc-secures-asset-purchase-185300188.html


So if Clearlake wills it they might just do what Joe is thinking (allow "THQ" money to finish up the games and release them and then attempt to sell everything for as much as they can)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 02:25:19 PM
FUCK WHAT ABOUT SAINTS ROW
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Steve Contra on December 19, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
There's not going to be another Saint's Row
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 02:27:05 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 19, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
Well, it's not chapter 7
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
I would say something shitty about THQ, but they helped Titan Quest and Drakensang make it to the shelves. Good night.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 19, 2012, 02:45:54 PM
Never bought a THQ game i think.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
UDRAW SEQUEL CANCELLED :*((((((((((((
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 19, 2012, 02:46:47 PM
Never bought a THQ game i think.

I don't think I have, either.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 02:47:27 PM
THQ published awesome WARHAMMER stuff why don't you guys 40K ease up a little
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Steve Contra on December 19, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
Just how awful saleswise was UDraw on the next-gen consoles? Oscar?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 02:51:21 PM
Is there even a market for Stick of Truth anymore? Seems like a game that should have came out at the end of last generation.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Trent Dole on December 19, 2012, 03:12:40 PM
Aging forumites like us who remember when it was the thing culturally in the late 90s early 00 mainly sounds like its main market to me so not really.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2012, 03:15:19 PM
There's not going to be another Saint's Row

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on December 19, 2012, 03:25:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DZXZa.jpg)

hope for the Saints Row people.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 19, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
Never bought a THQ game i think.

I don't think I have, either.

Well i did get Company of Heroes for 2 dollars on Steam, but it never worked.

I guess their games were always too B tier for me.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 19, 2012, 03:35:11 PM
I actually want to see what Homefront 2 will be like.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
As far as I know UDraw is considered one of the biggest bungles in gaming history
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on December 19, 2012, 03:43:28 PM
Stolen from GAF

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Predictions:
(http://www.abload.de/img/thqpredictions6bu8g.jpg)

Development budget
(http://www.abload.de/img/budgetx8jnc.jpg)

Source: http://www.kccllc.net/documents/8826100/8826100121219000000000002.pdf (http://www.kccllc.net/documents/8826100/8826100121219000000000002.pdf)


seems they will have some time (That assassin Creed guy game 1666 is fiscial 2016) if clearlake allows
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Steve Contra on December 19, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DZXZa.jpg)

hope for the Saints Row people.
That's less encouraging than not saying anything.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: demi on December 19, 2012, 04:12:55 PM
I cant believe they're doing a sequel to Homefront. Oy vey.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on December 19, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DZXZa.jpg)

hope for the Saints Row people.
That's less encouraging than not saying anything.

thats all you get for now (even if its PR garbage)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: CajoleJuice on December 19, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
Company of Heroes is legitimately sweet.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: bork on December 19, 2012, 04:40:54 PM
FUCK WHAT ABOUT SAINTS ROW

 :(
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 19, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
i bet that "saint's row expansion HOLDUP now it's a full game" thing still comes out at some point

as long as we are wishing for shit, maybe someone will snatch up the property along with red faction and do what we all want - combine the two into SAINT'S ROW 3000AD, knocking down buildings with a double dong :rock
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 19, 2012, 04:50:10 PM
I cant believe they're doing a sequel to Homefront. Oy vey.

I know, right? :lol Did their focus groups show that people are demanding more games with Hooters shootouts and levels that take place in Tiger Direct warehouses? Maybe in the sequel we get to fight Chinese in a Frys or Outback Steakhouse.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: tiesto on December 19, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Was never a fan of their games, but that sucks for those who did enjoy their franchises.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Bloodwake on December 19, 2012, 08:38:37 PM
Damn, and they finally managed to make another decent wrestling game.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 08:43:49 PM
Damn, and they finally managed to make another decent wrestling game.


:maf

(http://www.gamerzines.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/wwe-all-stars-full-roster.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: G The Resurrected on December 19, 2012, 09:14:22 PM
Homeworld 3, lol

We must rise up and purchase this IP from their ashes. Let the Kickstarter begin!
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on December 19, 2012, 09:42:24 PM
http://www.thq.com/us/go/article/view/homepage_article/261277/thq_community_message_from_jason_rubin?


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But what does “Chapter 11” mean?  What will happen to the games you are expecting?  The series you love?  And what about the people and teams that make them? 

The most important thing to understand is that Chapter 11 does not mean the end of the THQ story or the end of the titles you love.  Quite the opposite is true, actually.

Chapter 11 is a safety net for U.S. companies. American Airlines is currently in Chapter 11 restructuring, yet I flew back and forth on that airline when I visited Volition two weeks ago.  Donald Trump and his companies have been in Chapter 11 four times.  You can add to that list household names such as Macy’s, Eddie Bauer, the Chicago Cubs, Chrysler, Delta Airlines, General Motors, the Pittsburgh Penguins, Marvel Studios, and MGM, among many others.

MGM filed Chapter 11 two years ago, and this year it released “Skyfall” and “The Hobbit,” two of the biggest titles of the year. That’s what I mean when I say new start!

Our Chapter 11 process allows for other bidders to make competing offers for THQ.  So while we are extremely excited about the Clearlake opportunity, we won’t be able to say that the deal is done for a month or so. 

Rest assured that the goal throughout the sale process has been to preserve our teams and our products.  So no matter what the outcome in 30 days, as long as we have accomplished this goal, I will be satisfied. 

Whatever happens, the teams and products look likely to end up together and in good hands.  That means you can still pre-order Metro: Last Light, Company of Heroes 2, and South Park: The Stick of Truth. Our teams are still working on those titles as you read this, and all other rumored titles, like the fourth Saints Row, the Homefront sequel, and a lot more are also still in the works.

Finally, you might be asking, why would THQ file for Chapter 11 right before the holiday season?  Admittedly, the timing is unfortunate. But as we announced a few weeks ago, we have a January 15 deadline approaching for our bank funding. So if you work backwards to allow the necessary time to complete a sale, you end up at this week. Since all of THQ’s worldwide employees are off for a week and a half of paid vacation starting Friday for the holidays and will return to work on January 2nd, it hardly matters anyway. 

So THQ made headlines today – and I am sure there will be tons of click-grabbing headlines over the next month or so. But what matters to us is not what is happening to THQ right now, but what the company and its teams will make of ourselves after we complete the sale.

In short, the teams will be unburdened by the past and able to focus on what they should be focusing on -- Making great games. 
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: pilonv1 on December 19, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
Wonder when the bidding will start for the WWE licence then
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 19, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
Clearlake will rape this company
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 19, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
WOW what a great explanation of Chapter 11, I like how he uses all those exclamation points to make me feel like everything is all right!
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 10:49:37 PM
What pub would best for WWE license? EA? I'm thinking EA. 2k would be cool too.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2012, 11:03:47 PM
Wonder when the bidding will start for the WWE licence then

THQ has it through 2017, I wonder if it's the last thing they hold onto. No idea about the sales on those if they can just spit them out with minor changes/dev costs and make a profit like sports games.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on December 20, 2012, 04:10:04 AM
THQ has improved a lot in the last 10 years; they're making more quality games than 10 years ago, for sure. Sad that this is going on.

I really hope Saints Row gets a sequel, or at least that Volition keeps making crazy open-world games.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 20, 2012, 06:17:44 AM
I just want to give credit to THQ for exactly how well they've been commanding their sinking ship.

yeah, they slashed jobs and projects (Rainbow/THQ San Diego, Kaos, their kiddy DS games), but the most promising games they cut (Devil's Third and inSANE) are still in development under some other unknown sugar daddy, and the studios they have left, and have left untouched are excellent.  Damn near everybody at Virgil, Relic, and Volition still has jobs, and we should all be pretty happy about that.

I hope it can stay that way.  With something as simple as a massive capital infusion, THQ could be a player again, or at the very least, a steady performer.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: maxy on January 05, 2013, 06:13:07 AM
cp from gaf

http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2013/01/thqi-reconvening-on-monday-more-coming.html

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After an very, very long hearing, Judge Mary Walrath, a personally favorite of mine, did not approved the DIP motion or bidding procedures motion in the THQ case. She instructed parties to discuss and work out their issues over the weekend and set a new hearing on Monday. I will be writing a more thorough post this weekend on the day's events.


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Originally Posted by Quentyn: 
There a few more details on his Twitter account. If I understand things correctly, Warner might be interested in buying THQ?

https://twitter.com/DDInvesting
Yeah, "due diligence" is the process of evaluating all of THQ's IPs/projects in development and deciding if you want to make a bid.

There may be other parties interested as well that didn't testify, since they may have been interested in a piecemeal bid.

Quote
Originally Posted by Twitter:
Centerview: 5 strategic buyers in active due diligence in THQ.

TQHI court heating up. Centerview's banker on record of saying buyers are interested in individual titles. Clearlake has said not allowed.
Five companies are interested in evaluating THQ's assets for purchase, but Clearlake doesn't want to let them do it piecemeal. The judge doesn't seem too favorable to the sentiment.

have fun
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 05, 2013, 09:49:43 AM
Bu... Bu... But TWO MORE HORSEMEN!

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I only care about Saints Row, and WWE for nostalgic reasons.
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Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 05, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
I'll be satisfied if just Volition + Saints Row makes it out alive.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 03:49:55 PM
https://twitter.com/DDInvesting/status/288376488573673472
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Parties have come to agreement: THQI auction now on Jan 22nd. The auction will allow for piecemeal ("title by title") sales of THQ assets

Game over  :(
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: treythemovie on January 07, 2013, 03:55:39 PM
And EA is suppose to be the most interested buyer for several properties/studios  :yuck
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 03:59:14 PM
And EA is suppose to be the most interested buyer for several properties/studios  :yuck

I figure they'll snag Saints Row and South Park.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
GET AKI ON WWE GAMES PLEASE.

Saints Row under EA would be good. Hopefully. Probably. EA has no big sandbox game series and 4 million a game ain't bad. Combined with dat EA marketing, it could be a winner.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: bork on January 07, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
EA will do something to fuck up Saint's Row.

Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.   :-\
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 07, 2013, 05:53:30 PM
And EA is suppose to be the most interested buyer for several properties/studios  :yuck

I figure they'll snag Saints Row and South Park.
Yeah, I think so too. They can probably pick up South Park for a song, with the development nearly-finished. They may even be able to wring a sequel out of the team with an established toolchain and pipeline.

Moreover, Godfather was supposed to be EA's foray into open-world games, but I'm guessing there won't be a Godfather 3. Volition has shipped four of the most impressive OWGs out there; EA would be silly not to grab them.

GET AKI ON WWE GAMES PLEASE.

Saints Row under EA would be good. Hopefully. Probably. EA has no big sandbox game series and 4 million a game ain't bad. Combined with dat EA marketing, it could be a winner.
It won't happen; EA and AKI burned their bridges with the Def Jam Vendetta games. EA took a big steaming dump on AKI when they made the sequel. AKI probably doesn't even want to deal with each other any longer.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: pilonv1 on January 07, 2013, 05:59:36 PM
EA will do something to fuck up Saint's Row.

Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.   :-\

I'm hoping Warner Bros pick it up.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 07, 2013, 06:10:26 PM
nothing better happen to that damn South Park game. 
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2013, 06:13:34 PM
nothing better happen to that damn South Park game. 

It's basically finished already, someone will pick it up for release.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
"You guys need to tone it down with that next Saint's Route, or whatever it's called. Make it a bit more family-friendly. Less with the dildos and such."

"Yeah, we saved your asses from the unemployment line, but this Red Fraction crap you been peddling ain't gonna cut it. We're thinking third-person action game with Battlefield branding. You can do near-future or something, just don't get too crazy with it. None of that swinging hammers on Mars horseshit."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 07, 2013, 06:14:20 PM
EA always had a hard on for trying to get an open word franchise so it makes sense they would go for saints row.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
"Homefront sucked. We're putting you on the next Medal of Honor. This modern warfare stuff is dying off, people are getting sick of it, so we're thinking Korean War setting. See what we did there, huh?"
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:21:31 PM
"Company of Booooooooring. We're gonna take one last swing at Command and Conquer, so hop to it. Make a nice storefront for the menu, we want individual unit microtransactions."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 07, 2013, 06:22:50 PM
"South Park is finished?  Great News!   Buuuuuuuut instead of releasing it on disc, lets chop it up and sell it episodically.  WALKING DEAD SOLD MANY.  WALKING DEAD EPISODIC.  THEREFORE, SOUTH PARK EPISODIC MEAN SELL MANY."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:24:42 PM
"You know what might pump some life back into that Darksiders comic book thing you been doing? New lead character. We're not doing anything with Dante from that God of War thing we did, so think about it. And by think about it I mean DO IT."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
"Wrestling is for rednecks, but rednecks like to get drunk on moonshine and spend money, so up the titty factor and make a wrestling game about girls or something. Honestly, we got no idea what to do with you fucks. You came with the package."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2013, 06:31:03 PM
"Relic? Well, we've got this relic of an IP we want to reboot. It's called Populous. I'm thinking cover based and QTE's."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
"I don't understand this South Park game. Is it supposed to look like construction paper or something? Who watches that shit? Whatever. This better make money."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:32:38 PM
"Oh, yeah, we also want mobile versions of all this shit."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 07, 2013, 06:34:04 PM
"We understand South Park is single-player, but we really need you to put a mandatory origin account registration in there.  Somewhere between the 3rd and 4th start up logo.  Maybe as an encore at the end of all the start up logos."   


oh wait, i just made myself sad.  i'll have to install origin finally.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
"I'm proud to announce our new partners will be focused on developing a software line for our new upcoming tablet device. The device will feature motion sensing along with a drawing interface."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: originalz on January 07, 2013, 06:40:49 PM
The worst part about this is that the executives which forced people to release that UDraw shit for PS360 probably won't suffer at all, I'm sure they'll get a nice bonus and will have no problem finding some other job with their "experience".  Goddamn tragedy.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2013, 06:46:56 PM
 
"I'm proud to announce our new partners will be focused on developing a software line for our new upcoming tablet device. The device will feature motion sensing along with a drawing interface."
:lol
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 06:57:05 PM
"Do you want us to start work on Wii U ports for any of this?"
"Heh. That's funny. You're a funny guy. Get back to work. I don't wanna see those dickbeaters stop moving until crunch time is over, Mr. Comedy. Wii U port. Heh."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 07, 2013, 07:09:24 PM
Saint's Row will be canceled but the engine will be used for an open world Wu Tang game.

No fair! Clearly you've already seen the design document. Or the future. No fair!
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
Saint's Row will be canceled but the engine will be used for an open world Wu Tang game.

No fair! Clearly you've already seen the design document. Or the future. No fair!

Oscar broke his NDA. :omg
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 08, 2013, 03:29:26 AM
Does AKI even exist anymore?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 08, 2013, 03:33:34 AM
Does AKI even exist anymore?
According to wiki they changed their name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syn_Sophia
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 08, 2013, 03:41:32 AM
...and they're making Style Savvy games.

So I would put my money on "The core staff capable of shipping a AAA next-gen pro wrestling title is likely not there anymore"
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2013, 04:51:07 AM
I hope every single franchise goes to Activision so they can quickly be put out their misery
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 08, 2013, 05:26:23 AM
AKI did make a really shitty Wii fighting game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syn_Sophia).

which was not promising, but then again, they did make a pair of pretty good looking Yakuza spinoffs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurohy%C5%8D:_Ry%C5%AB_ga_Gotoku_Shinsh%C5%8D) that I'll likely never play at any point in my life and I feel poorer for it.

oh yeah, Yukes has got to be shitting bricks about now.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 08, 2013, 06:42:29 AM
Maybe EA or Activision can turn their franchises into something good.

Saint's Row will be canceled but the engine will be used for an open world Wu Tang game.

Id buy that.

Unlike Saints Row which I didnt buy.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 08, 2013, 03:00:48 PM
AKI's Yakuza games are awesome.  Especially the second one.

Sho Nuff showing he's sho nuff ignorant if it doesn't involve SEGA arcade games or pinball.

:piss Sho Nuff :piss2

Fuck you motherfucker, I just finished Yakuza Dead Souls over the weekend! Don't make me go Majima Goro on your ass

(Also didn't know that the PSP Yakuza games were actually good)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 08, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
The PSP RGG Black Panther games are pretty sweet. Well, the first one is, I haven't bought the second one yet.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 08, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oUYBX.jpg)

UDRAW IS BACK BABY (at half price books)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 08, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oUYBX.jpg)

UDRAW IS BACK BABY (at half price books)

That the one at Crossroads? I'm guessing there are ton of them at the U-District store.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 08, 2013, 04:19:24 PM
Yup
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eric P on January 08, 2013, 04:25:45 PM
Saint's Row will be canceled but the engine will be used for an open world Wu Tang game.

saint's row plus sleeping dogs.

i'd buy that
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 08, 2013, 07:50:33 PM
I'd buy uDraw now that it's... Oh, who am I kidding? It would just be a reminder of how Marketing can ruin everything.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 08, 2013, 10:48:45 PM
I usually wait for the English versions but I guess neither of those are getting translated. Are either of them open-world free-roam?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 08, 2013, 11:38:15 PM
Pleasssse just let there be a next gen red faction
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 10, 2013, 04:08:21 AM
Pleasssse just let there be a next gen red faction

It won't happen. The fight for Red Faction was abandoned long before THQ began spiraling the drain.

Volition changed from an open-world game to RF: Armageddon's shooter format because RF: Guerrilla didn't meet sales expectations. Then Armageddon failed to sell at all. Arguably, this is THQ marketing snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again, failing to move units on another exceptional game, the same way they manage to failed at moving Saints Row.

I'm glad you mentioned it though: I need to download RF:G's DLC before it disappears into administration limbo.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
the same way they manage to failed at moving Saints Row.

Compared to GTA, maybe, but shipping 4 million worldwide isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 10, 2013, 11:07:34 AM
all they need to do is Saint's Row: Red Faction and officially bring the two series together

and if you think that sounds stupid, i got two words for ya:  dildo jackhammer
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 10, 2013, 11:49:00 AM
Pleasssse just let there be a next gen red faction

It won't happen. The fight for Red Faction was abandoned long before THQ began spiraling the drain.

Volition changed from an open-world game to RF: Armageddon's shooter format because RF: Guerrilla didn't meet sales expectations. Then Armageddon failed to sell at all. Arguably, this is THQ marketing snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again, failing to move units on another exceptional game, the same way they manage to failed at moving Saints Row.

LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

 :'(
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 10, 2013, 07:58:07 PM
the same way they manage to failed at moving Saints Row.

Compared to GTA, maybe, but shipping 4 million worldwide isn't bad at all.

Yeah, 4M is definitely not shabby, but it's a better game than GTA. SR1 was a better game than GTA.
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Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
like i said form the day saints row 1 came out, its a shit series good bye
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
the same way they manage to failed at moving Saints Row.

Compared to GTA, maybe, but shipping 4 million worldwide isn't bad at all.

Yeah, 4M is definitely not shabby, but it's a better game than GTA. SR1 was a better game than GTA.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:'( :'( :'(
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I don't think there's really anything THQ could have done to get to GTA-like sales for Saints Row. Anymore than anybody else can get COD-like sales for their first-person shoot, regardless of quality.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 11, 2013, 01:41:19 AM
like i said form the day saints row 1 came out, its a shit series good bye
1? Yes. 2 and 3, no not at all. Two was a pretty well made game that fixed a lot of 1's issues and with 3 it finally found it's personality and style.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 11, 2013, 01:54:19 AM
I have a feeling some other publisher would have interest in the red faction name and franchise. As far as sales nobody in the open world genre is taking down GTA. It's a genre king and will remain that.

I think Saints Row 3 was the first in the series to make that franchise credible in a way with with critics that the prior games had never been. It was also the first one in the series that compelled me to finish it.

On one hand I think being given an EA budget would allow Saints Row to flourish in scale and scope. On the other hand, you could definitely see them interfering and potentially shaving off the enjoyable outsider appeal that the series has been able to cultivate.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 11, 2013, 02:04:56 AM
No quoting of Methodis! It negates the positive effects engendered by those who have him on Ignore.

I agree that GTA isn't going to be taken down; it's got a lot of momentum and is running on it quite well. I'd just like to see the -- was it 22M that GTA IV did? -- be approached within 50%, or even 30% by Saints Row, instead of the 25% at which it seems to be lingering.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 22, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
big surprise-- South Park Studios and THQ fight it out over the South Park game.  SPS wants to get it back and doesn't want it to go up for auction.  looks like they filed some docs a few days ago.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509423


on the plus side, South Park Studios has infinite money (thus, infinite lawyers) and will probably get it back quickly.  Then they can find a good publisher for it...though I'm not sure why they (or Valhalla Studios) went with THQ in the first place.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2013, 10:59:47 AM
Doesn't THQ have a license to South Park video games?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 22, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
Yeah, they'd have had one at some point to publish this game.  When there's something extreme like THQ's bankruptcy at play, contract law tends to get more and more malleable.  Unless it was covered for in the contract (probably was...these contracts are gigantic.)  If they had something that says THQ will own the game forever, even after losing the license to make new ones and even in the case of bankruptcy, then South Park Studio's chances of winning would decrease.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: maxy on January 22, 2013, 01:09:47 PM
Saw this on gaf
THQ net income since 1990 (founded by LJN co-founder in April 1990).
(http://i.imagebanana.com/img/mw9zpfa8/thq.PNG)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 22, 2013, 01:18:38 PM
so, in some way, by buying X-Men, Friday the 13th, and all kinds of licensed LJN trash for the NES, I funded the beginning of THQ.  Nice to know.  The rainbow of shit just keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 22, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
The end came hard and fast.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 22, 2013, 01:19:47 PM
was the $431 million year U-Draw?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 22, 2013, 02:24:45 PM
was the $431 million year U-Draw?

It wasn't, actually. That year was 2011. 2009 was a combination of decreased sales because of the recession and increased costs, from a source that I'm not sure of.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Even without SPS and THQ feuding over the rights, Stick of Truth is bound to be delayed, right?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: treythemovie on January 22, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
That chart explains THQ's bet on Udraw pretty well. They were already in the shitter but were saved in 2010 thanks to the Wii version of Udraw. So you can imagine how eager/desperate they were to replicate its success in 2011.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 22, 2013, 04:01:28 PM
That chart explains THQ's bet on Udraw pretty well. They were already in the shitter but were saved in 2010 thanks to the Wii version of Udraw. So you can imagine how eager/desperate they were to replicate its success in 2011.

They still would have been in trouble without the U Draw fiasco, but might have been able to keep things going until the situation improved. But, then U Draw for 360/PS3 happened and that was where the remaining wheels came loose.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: treythemovie on January 22, 2013, 04:17:22 PM
They still would have been in trouble without the U Draw fiasco, but might have been able to keep things going until the situation improved. But, then U Draw for 360/PS3 happened and that was where the remaining wheels came loose.
Oh certainly. Udraw 360/PS3 was them betting everything left on a success and failing horribly. Without it they probably would have limped into next gen before finally going the way of Midway.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 22, 2013, 05:31:37 PM
Guys I have the best idea, I'm going to buy uDraw and do a version for iOS!!! I made this concept to inspire you

(http://i45.tinypic.com/5uh1sw.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 22, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
Saw this on gaf
THQ net income since 1990 (founded by LJN co-founder in April 1990).
(http://i.imagebanana.com/img/mw9zpfa8/thq.PNG)

This is a 1x1 pixel image now, by the way.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 22, 2013, 07:01:43 PM
they publish games as Deep Silver (Dead Island, others)

http://www.kochmedia.com/games/deep-silver.html
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 22, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
...Sega?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 22, 2013, 07:11:16 PM
...Sega?

They have Creative Assembly and can get the Warhammer 40K stuff from Games workshop due to Relic (apparently they trust relic enough).

Edit: Creative is doing a Warhammer game already so Relic could fit right in
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: demi on January 22, 2013, 07:11:16 PM
...Sega?

Sega does RTS games, yes. Usually Creative Assembly makes them. Also the Shogun series. Total War. It makes sense they would go after Relic.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 22, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
No, I just didn't think they'd have money to go after anyone.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: demi on January 22, 2013, 07:13:34 PM
They sure do, after you dummies kept buying their ports of Virtua Fighter.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 22, 2013, 07:16:12 PM
They sure do, after you dummies kept buying their ports of Virtua Fighter.
:rofl
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 22, 2013, 07:16:28 PM
No, I just didn't think they'd have money to go after anyone.

IIRC they do have the Sammy side if anything (though i would assume they would like to get their side up to snuff again)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2013, 08:14:23 PM
THE KOCH BROTHERS ARE GOING AFTER VOLITION?!
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 22, 2013, 08:21:12 PM
No, I just didn't think they'd have money to go after anyone.

SEGA has access to a shit-ton of cash if they can justify it.  Their parent company rolls around in filthy pachinko lucre all day and all night.
I see
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Is this good or bad for volition
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 22, 2013, 08:30:02 PM
Is this good or bad for volition

I mean, it's probably a good move if you ever want to play a Saint's Row 4.  Long term who knows?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 22, 2013, 08:30:22 PM
Yea, both those things are better than I expected
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: archie4208 on January 22, 2013, 08:34:30 PM
Relic and Sega seems too good to be true.

In before EA outbids them. 
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 22, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
Just happy someone swooped in for Volition. Also happy it wasn't EA because, though EA has been better about doing original IP and stuffs, I still feel like they live to destroy any inherent company culture, and eventually cast aside the gutted goose once the golden eggs are no longer produced.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 22, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
I'm not sure EA is in acquisition mode any more :P
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: archie4208 on January 23, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4Yk96aT.png)

Sega - Relic
Ubisoft - South Park game and Montreal dev studio
Take 2 - Vigil and Darksiders franchise (might just keep the IP and not the staff)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: cool breeze on January 23, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
Ubisoft buying THQ Montreal is funny because Patrice Desilets left Ubisoft for it.

others

Quote
Sega agreed to purchase Relic
Koch Media agreed to purchase Volition and Metro
Crytek agreed to purchase Homefront
Take 2 agreed purchase Evolve and
Ubisoft agreed to purchase Montreal and South Park
We expect these sales to close this week.

edit: Evolve might be Turtle Rock's shooter.  People originally behind Counter Strike and Left 4 Dead.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
:bow Koch :bow2
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 03:21:32 PM
Who is slated to get wwe
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 23, 2013, 03:22:55 PM
Man, I love Koch.


Glad to see a shitty company like Ubisoft will take the hit on South Park bombing.



Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 03:24:48 PM
full letter

http://kotaku.com/5978429/this-is-the-letter-that-thq-sent-to-employees-today

Quote
To All THQ Employees:

We now have the answers we've been seeking through our financial restructuring and
Chapter 11 case. While much will be written, here are the facts of the bids and auction
that occurred:

Yesterday morning, we received a competing bid for the operating business,
along with Clearlake's offer, and numerous offers for separate assets.
During an auction process that lasted over 22 hours, the final conclusion was
that the separate-asset bids would net more than a single buyer for the majority
of the company.

Shortly, we will, present the results to the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, which must
concur with our assessment.

The proposed sales of multiple assets is as follows :
Sega agreed to purchase Relic
Koch Media agreed to purchase Volition and Metro
Crytek agreed to purchase Homefront
Take 2 agreed purchase Evolve and
Ubisoft agreed to purchase Montreal and South Park
We expect these sales to close this week.

Some assets, including our publishing businesses and Vigil, along with some other
intellectual properties are not included in the sale agreements. They will remain part of
the Chapter 11 case. We will make every effort to find appropriate buyers, if possible.

What this means for employees

We expect that most employees of the entities included in the sale will be offered
employment by the new owners. However, we cannot say what these owners may
intend, and there will likely be some positions that will not be needed under the
new ownership. You should receive notice this week or early next week if the new
owners intend to extend employment to you. Please note that the terms of your new
employment, including pay and benefits, may be different from the current terms of
your employment with THQ.

If you are an employee of an entity that is not included in the sale, we regret that
your position will end. A small number of our headquarters staff will continue to be
employed by THQ beyond January 25 to assist with the transition. THQ has sufficient
resources to pay these employees for work going forward, and we will be contacting
these employees immediately to ensure their continued employment during this
transition period. We are requesting the ability to offer certain severance pay to
minimize disruption for employees of non-included entities as they determine the next
steps in their careers.

We know you will have many questions about this news. We'll be meeting tomorrow
when we return to talk through this announcement and to answer any questions you
have. You will receive a benefits fact sheet and FAQs with answers to some questions
that may be on your mind. Please review these materials closely.

A personal note

The work that you all have done as part of the THQ family is imaginative, creative,
artistic and highly valued by our loyal gamers. We are proud of what we have
accomplished despite today's outcome.

It has been our privilege to work alongside the entire THQ team. While the company
will cease to exist, we are heartened that the majority of our studios and games will
continue under new ownership. We were hoping that the entire company would remain
intact, but we expect to hear good news from each of the separate entities that will be
operating as part of new organizations.

For those THQ employees who are part of entities that are not included in the sale, we
are confident that the talent you have displayed as part of THQ will be recognized as you
take the next steps in your career.

Thank you all for your dedication and for sharing your talent with the THQ team. We
wish you the best of luck and hope you will keep in touch.

Sincerely,

Brian Farrell
Chief Executive Officer

Jason Rubin
President


 :o @ Vigil
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 23, 2013, 03:28:03 PM
So South Park will be $30 a month after release.

Who is slated to get wwe

I heard EA.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:31:50 PM
no one bought saints row? :lol  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
no one bought saints row? :lol  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Did you miss the part where Koch Media bought it?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:34:27 PM
they bought Volition, volition don't own the SR IP IIRC
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 03:34:33 PM
amounts from twitter.

Ubi bought Patrice for nothing it seems

(http://i.imgur.com/fpTiiX3.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/NVxgn9O.png)


and apparently the starting bids were 500K 250K, so no one thought to even spend 500K 250K on Vigil?... :o  (oscar some help on this plz)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 03:49:42 PM
Kotaku on fire.

Apparent runners up of the bids that took place

http://kotaku.com/5978425/thq-is-getting-sold-off-today++heres-everything-we-know


Quote
Relic Entertainment
 
Makers of Company of Heroes
 Winning bidder: Sega, $26.6 million.
 Runner-up: Zenimax Media, $26.3 million.



 
Quote
THQ Montreal
 
Makers of 1666 and Underdog, titles under development.
 Winning bidder: Ubisoft, $2.5 million. No runner-up.

Quote
Evolve
 
(title in development at Turtle Rock Studios)
 Winning bidder: Take-Two Interactive, $10.894 million.
 Runner-up: Turtle Rock Studios, $250,000.

Quote
Volition, Inc.
 
Maker of Saints Row
 Winning bidder: Koch Media, $22,312,925.
 Runner-up: Ubisoft, $5.4 million.

Quote
Homefront
 
Released 2011; due for a sequel.
 Winning bidder: Crytek. $544,218.
 No runner-up.

Quote
Metro
 
Series; due for the sequel Metro: Last Light.
 Winning Bidder: Koch Media, $5,877,551
 Runner-up: Ubisoft: $5.175 million.

Quote
South Park
 
License; South Park: The Stick of Truth is due for release March 5.
 Winning bidder: Ubisoft, $3,265,306
 No runner-up.


Turtle rock even tried to buy their own game
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
I dont understand why anyone would pay $26m for Volition especially since how bad Saints Row has done and how they killed Red Faction all within a year
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 23, 2013, 03:52:34 PM
No one else tried to buy South Park. What does that say about the game?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
No one else tried to buy South Park. What does that say about the game?

Nothing; it's just publishing rights werein you'd make very little money.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
Zenimax just barely missed out on Company of Heroes, but I guess Sega is a better home for an RTS series.

I dont understand why anyone would pay $26m for Volition especially since how bad Saints Row has done and how they killed Red Faction all within a year

Yeah, SR3 only sold 4 million copies. What a bomba lol
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
Considering it only sold that many because GTA hasn't been around and theres a GTA game coming out this year, Saints Row will never sell more than 1m again. If that IP is even still existing.
Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Verdigris Murder on January 23, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
I dont understand why anyone would pay $26m for Volition especially since how bad Saints Row has done and how they killed Red Faction all within a year
Koch is serious bznz.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Considering it only sold that many because GTA hasn't been around and theres a GTA game coming out this year, Saints Row will never sell more than 1m again. If that IP is even still existing.

Stop being such a moron, Methodis. Saints Row 2 sold 3.4 million years the SAME year that GTA4 came out. So shut up about things that you're not smart enough to discuss intelligently.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:58:18 PM
Well considering no one knows who owns the Saints Row IP anymore maybe we should all just shut up and realize a very mediocre developer just got purchased for 26m while high quality developers keep going under. A sad world we live in
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 03:58:53 PM
Also RIP Virgil. You made one good game, a shite game, a WiiU game then you died (like all WiiU third party devs)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 04:06:46 PM
Well considering no one knows who owns the Saints Row IP anymore maybe we should all just shut up and realize a very mediocre developer just got purchased for 26m while high quality developers keep going under. A sad world we live in

Koch Media also got Saints Row dude

http://www.thesangreal.net/gafpics/results.pdf

Court Documents on the sale, winning bidders, runners up and what they got aka IP

stolen from GAF


Tl:DR version

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/546/przechwytywaniems.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: demi on January 23, 2013, 04:10:45 PM
Also RIP Virgil. You made one good game, a shite game, a WiiU game then you died (like all WiiU third party devs)

Good troll, but you forgot to mention they made PC games too ;)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 23, 2013, 04:10:58 PM
Saints Row lives on. That's all I wanted to hear.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 04:13:00 PM
Also RIP Virgil. You made one good game, a shite game, a WiiU game then you died (like all WiiU third party devs)

Good troll, but you forgot to mention they made PC games too ;)

If PC is the culprit then why was the Company of Heroes IP more valuable than the Saints Row ip?  ???
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 23, 2013, 04:21:18 PM
itt methodis being stupid, what a shocker
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 04:26:13 PM
Saints Row lives. The Third Streets Saints shall persevere and wreck shit.

GET UP.

I SAID GET UP.

That's right.

GET UP
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
WHY DID NOBODY BUY RED FACTION.

Also RIP Virgil. You made one good game, a shite game, a WiiU game then you died (like all WiiU third party devs)

Good troll, but you forgot to mention they made PC games too ;)

If PC is the culprit then why was the Company of Heroes IP more valuable than the Saints Row ip?  ???

Only it's not.

Relic is so valuable because Games Workshop is extremely protective of the 40k license. Owning Relic means you'd be in a good position to acquire the rights to the 40k IP since Games Workshop and Relic have a fantastic working relationship. SEGA and Creative Assembly currently have the rights to make Warhammer fantasy games. SEGA having both would put them in an amazing position to make a lot of money because there's a lot you can do with those IPs outside of RTS games.

Relic had more bidders than Saints Row at higher prices. So it makes it more valuable HTH.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 04:28:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfSe8CoZmrk
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 04:29:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4928bfnr6E

GET UP
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: cool breeze on January 23, 2013, 04:31:28 PM
Quote
Evolve
(title in development at Turtle Rock Studios)
Winning bidder: Take-Two Interactive, $10.894 million.
Runner-up: Turtle Rock Studios, $250,000.

they thought they could own their own game

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 04:39:36 PM
NOTHING

(http://i.imgur.com/SM53xA7.jpg)

CAN STOP

(http://i.imgur.com/YJXXRPc.gif)

THAT SAINTS FLOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQU8HbqwwaI
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 04:41:51 PM
except good reviews
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 04:44:37 PM
except good reviews

Why would all those good reviews that the Saints Row series got stop the Saints flow? That doesn't make sense!
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Quote
Evolve
(title in development at Turtle Rock Studios)
Winning bidder: Take-Two Interactive, $10.894 million.
Runner-up: Turtle Rock Studios, $250,000.

they thought they could own their own game



If nobody made a bid, THQ would've possibly taken it to the grave. So they made a bid but 2k really like what they saw, apparently and scooped it up.

in a weird way it kinda works out for them ( unless take-two went all dickish and got another dev to finish it)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: demi on January 23, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
I played through Saints 2 just recently, and theres no question that 3 is the superior product. Much more enjoyable to play.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:01:07 PM
2 has a more fleshed out game, though. more to do. SR3's main story is better, but it's riddled with side activities and feels too short.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 23, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
2 has a more fleshed out game, though. more to do. SR3's main story is better, but it's riddled with side activities and feels too short.

SR2 has better sidequests and more variety in location, but literally everything else is better about SR3.  Including the dildo weapons.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
SR2 had the worst PC port of all time so i cant play it therefore SR3 is better
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
SR2 also has a better main character. SR3's is a wimp in comparison. I want more psychopathic shenanigans.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 05:06:13 PM
SR3 is definitely more fun overall and has the better main story, but the limited budget really hurt them as far as side activities and cutscene completeness goes. Hopefully, Koch well give them the money they need for SR4.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:07:31 PM
SR3 does NOT have a better story.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 23, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
SR3 does NOT have a better story.

I think we've been over this, and I'm pretty sure you're the only one in that camp.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:09:47 PM
I know for sure I'm not
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 23, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
Let me rephrase that then- people who legit care about the story of a videogame series where you use monster trucks to murder rival's girlfriends and escape a sex dungeon in a pony cart are inherently ludicrous, and probably the sort of people who claim to enjoy The Sims.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
I just want more shenanigans. :maf Is that so wrong?

You didn't get time to fuck with the Morning Star boss. He just dies in a cutscene. :maf I want to go medieval on his ass. :maf
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2013, 05:15:05 PM
I remember the middle of SR3 feeling pretty weak and well it was the last mission that saved the game for me. Lot of the sp felt like filler.

Greatly enjoyed 2 more, but three just looks a lot better.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:20:58 PM
2 had an arc for every gang. In 3, the gangs feel like filler and barely have a proper ending. You barely fuck with them, and it doesn't get as crazy as it does with Maero in 2 or the Yakuza gang in 2.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
Seems Koch Media is excited.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/courts-police-and-fire/2013-01-23/updated-volition-chief-sees-very-positive-future.html

Quote
Volition's general manager, Dan Cermak, who was in Delaware for the auction, said it appears the studio will remain in Champaign and the future looks "very positive" for Volition under Koch Media.
 
"I haven't had a chance to sit down with (Koch officials) except for a few moments, and they were very positive," Cermak said in an email shortly after the bid results were released.
 
"They love Saints Row and are very happy to own its creator," he said, adding that "Volition is not moving."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
SR3's main story is better

SR3 does NOT have a better story.

???
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2013, 05:28:44 PM
Whoop, I meant SR3's story has better highs, but more lows. I should read what I type.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 23, 2013, 05:33:35 PM
Saints Row 3 was the only one I finished and that was solely because I thought it was funny and wanted to see what happened next.

Never felt that way about the second one which I got about halfway through and never finished. Mainly because I didn't really care about any of the story stuff and didn't find it funny. I wasn't immersed. Opinions and all that.

I'm probably more of a fan of Volition going to one of the more traditional publishers but we'll see how it turns out I guess.


Thank God the WWE license is in other hands. THQ and Yukes were just awful.
Too bad about Vigil Games. I liked them quite a bit.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 23, 2013, 06:13:47 PM
WWE games are hot garbage, the Yukes games have legacy code in there reaching back to the PSOne days. Those games need a reboot, MERCY KILL PLEASE
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2013, 06:25:51 PM
So uh, THQ letter says Koch got Volition (Developer) and then Metro (IP).

In that interview posted, the Volition head guy says "they like Saints Row and are very excited to own its developer.


I'm a little worried they might not have gotten the Saints Row IP, which would make SR4 kaput.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 23, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
SR2 Stillwater > Steelport
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: pilonv1 on January 23, 2013, 06:34:33 PM
2 has a more fleshed out game, though. more to do. SR3's main story is better, but it's riddled with side activities and feels too short.

SR2 has better sidequests and more variety in location, but literally everything else is better about SR3.  Including the dildo weapons.

SR2 Stillwater > Steelport

100% truth here. If you could put SR3's gameplay into SR2 Stillwater it would be incredible.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Steve Contra on January 23, 2013, 06:37:00 PM
So uh, THQ letter says Koch got Volition (Developer) and then Metro (IP).

In that interview posted, the Volition head guy says "they like Saints Row and are very excited to own its developer.


I'm a little worried they might not have gotten the Saints Row IP, which would make SR4 kaput.
They got the Saint's Row IP.  Don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Huff on January 23, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
wait so did no one grab the Red Faction IP? thats pretty disappointing
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 23, 2013, 06:46:42 PM
So uh, THQ letter says Koch got Volition (Developer) and then Metro (IP).

In that interview posted, the Volition head guy says "they like Saints Row and are very excited to own its developer.


I'm a little worried they might not have gotten the Saints Row IP, which would make SR4 kaput.

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/546/przechwytywaniems.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 23, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
wait so did no one grab the Red Faction IP? thats pretty disappointing

Kinda surprised about that also.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 07:22:50 PM
THQ didnt have the rights to WWE games; WWE/Jakks Pacific get it back and it isn't acutioned off. It's up to the WWE now as to who liscences it, although the first game we get will be hot garbage if you consider they'll only have what, 7 months to develop it?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 23, 2013, 07:33:32 PM
Huh, so does that mean they'll have to strip out any Red Faction references in future re-releases of SR games?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 23, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
WWE games are hot garbage, the Yukes games have legacy code in there reaching back to the PSOne days. Those games need a reboot, MERCY KILL PLEASE

Wasn't the same true of Windows containing legacy DOS code?

I'd be as happy as anyone to see WWE get a reboot, but it's not like Yuke's can't make a good wrestling game. Look at Day of Reckoning, made by kidnapped AKI employees, homeslice.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 23, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
Maybe they'll pickup Red Faction on the cheap later on in the process. I thought I read that there was a minimum bid price for this auction?
SR2 had the worst PC port of all time so i cant play it therefore SR3 is better
Should give it another try. Modern hardware can brute force past a lot of its problems.

Wasn't the same true of Windows containing legacy DOS code?
I can tell you that the same has been true of 2K's NBA series which, to pick just one example, had network code from the Dreamcast versions as late as 2011.
Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Bloodwake on January 23, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Absolutely nothing. Jakks Pacific has dick to do with the games ever since they no longer make WWE's action figures.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 08:06:54 PM
I think they still own some rights to it though, unless you can find proof that WWE bought back their shares of it. (Jakks helped the WWE out back before the attitude era)
Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Bloodwake on January 23, 2013, 08:10:44 PM
I know they were at one point involved with the games but I think their involvement with them ended when WWE switched to Mattel. I am going to Google it just in case but I seem to remember some sort of lawsuit over it.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 23, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
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We were then notified by a banker involved with the proceedings that certain legacy properties including Homeworld were not actually a part of this auction, and were to be sold later in the month.
Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Bloodwake on January 23, 2013, 08:15:45 PM
Yup.

http://corporate.wwe.com/news/2009/2009_12_23a.jsp (http://corporate.wwe.com/news/2009/2009_12_23a.jsp)


This is the last press release. THQ was partnering with Jakks Pacific on the games and as a result of the lawsuit between the three parties ending THQ got the exclusive rights to the game franchise until 2017. No mention of Jakks Pacific continuing as their partners.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 23, 2013, 08:25:05 PM
How much do you think they'll want for these? I have some change in my car ashtray.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Bravofront.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Vs._Cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 23, 2013, 09:16:28 PM
I'll never understand big companies sometimes.

EA spent years and tons of money wasted trying to build open world franchises.

Mercenaries, Godfather 1 & 2, The Saboteur, etc but here is a franchise with some critical appeal that you could probably reboot and market pretty well and get on the relative cheap with Saints Row but they have no interest in it.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: treythemovie on January 23, 2013, 11:27:03 PM
I'll never understand big companies sometimes.

EA spent years and tons of money wasted trying to build open world franchises.

Mercenaries, Godfather 1 & 2, The Saboteur, etc but here is a franchise with some critical appeal that you could probably reboot and market pretty well and get on the relative cheap with Saints Row but they have no interest in it.

Either A.) EA already has their own open world game in development for next gen (again); and/or B.) EA is in a contraction mode and no longer wants to spend millions on new acquisitions (or rather their shareholders don't want them to).
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 23, 2013, 11:34:39 PM
WWE games are hot garbage, the Yukes games have legacy code in there reaching back to the PSOne days. Those games need a reboot, MERCY KILL PLEASE

Wasn't the same true of Windows containing legacy DOS code?

I'd be as happy as anyone to see WWE get a reboot, but it's not like Yuke's can't make a good wrestling game. Look at Day of Reckoning, made by kidnapped AKI employees, homeslice.

Yuke's is fine, my beef is that THQ had them pooping those games out on a yearly basis and never gave them the time to properly re-tool things for 360/PS3. Every game feels rushed and jerry-rigged on top of last year's version...don't even get me started on a Community Creations rant. I would love to see ANYONE get the chance to get proper funding/scheduling and do the hot-shit next-gen wrestling game we deserve.

I assume that whoever winds up with the license will just continue the contract with Yuke's and be all like HURRY UP GUYS YOU NEED TO GET NEXT YEAR'S GAME OUT ASAP, and Yuke's, who will have lost several months to this THQ shutdown, will be even more pressed.

Disclaimer: I have worked on a WWE game and it was the most stressful experience of my life.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 11:37:55 PM
please tell me you worked on the WWE car combat game :teehee
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 23, 2013, 11:43:17 PM
We had 4 good WCW/WWE wrestling games by AKI.

WCW vs. nWo: World Tour
WCW/nWo Revenge
WWF WrestleMania 2000
WWF No Mercy

And then a decade run of crap. I'm done with Yukes. Whether it's fair or not they made a shitload of bad wrestling games and I didn't like any of them.

In full disclosure I never played WWE Day of Reckoning which some people say was decent but I played a healthy selection of the rest including WWE 13 which sucks.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2013, 12:10:10 AM
Disclaimer: I have worked on a WWE game and it was the most stressful experience of my life.

I can only imagine the hell this would be. Usual video game issues but added in with Vince's daily "plans change" mentality. Must be wonderful
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2013, 12:16:57 AM
please tell me you worked on the WWE car combat game :teehee
He's probably the one who said "you know what wrestling games really need? No ring."
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2013, 12:41:13 AM
please tell me you worked on the WWE car combat game :teehee

Hope it was this

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/WWF_Betrayal_Coverart.png)

:teehee
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on January 24, 2013, 01:09:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/i0TdCUR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/gR6rcnj.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Qs34juW.png)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Beezy on January 24, 2013, 01:14:02 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2013, 01:27:07 AM
2K GOT THE WWE LICENSE

(http://i46.tinypic.com/qqsj28.gif)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: iconoclast on January 24, 2013, 02:25:23 AM
SmackDown HCTP is still the best game in the series, though I haven't played WWE 12... and maybe the one before that, I dunno.

I hope 2K doesn't go to Yuke's. Even if their games aren't terrible, it's still the same old shit every year and at this point I could never play another SmackDown game again and not give a single fuck. If they were to contract an outside developer, it should be Spike (assuming they've still got it). Just put a WWE skin over the King of Colosseum II engine and let the 10/10 come pouring in. :D

And now that NJPW is picking up again, Yuke's could make another Wrestle Kingdom game. Everybody wins!
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2013, 02:26:39 AM
I'd love a Wrestle Kingdom game.

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 24, 2013, 03:08:21 AM
Whatever the new WWE games end up being, they better maintain the incredibly dumb yet equally versatile character creation.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2013, 07:57:17 AM
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In a statement sent to VG247, CEO of Koch Media Dr. Klemens Kundratitz said, “Koch Media welcomes the addition of these magnificent franchises to the Koch Media family of entertainment properties.

“With more than 200 games on notable platforms globally, and its proven success creating renowned franchises like Dead Island, Deep Silver is perfectly positioned to lead these brands into the next generation of interactive entertainment for fans around the world.

Menno van der Bil, international commercial director at Deep Silver added, “Deep Silver already has a track record for out-of-the-ordinary games, including the immensely successful Dead Island brand. Both the Saints Row and the Metro franchises perfectly fit into our future lineup and strategy.

“We’re really excited to lead these well-respected licenses into a bright new future. We also welcome the legendary development studio Volition to the Koch Media/Deep Silver group.”

Koch bought Metro game rights for $5.8 million and purchased Volition for $22.3 million. The statement adds that Koch will roll out its plan for its purchased IP and Volition in coming months.
:bow2
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 24, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
he said "tl;dr" :lol
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 24, 2013, 09:22:39 AM
Just getting caught up on this, but Crytek paid $500k for Homefront, but nobody bought Vigil? Ice burn. (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/dead.png)
Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Huff on January 24, 2013, 09:43:36 AM
Well it is cryteks baby at this point. For some unknown reason. The world is stoked for home front 2
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: thisismyusername on January 24, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
Well it is cryteks baby at this point. For some unknown reason. The world is stoked for home front 2

The idea of a Red Dawn-ish game appeals to xenophobes (see: latest Red Dawn movie and OMG I HATE THE CHINKS), THQ doesn't.

And Vigil not being bought isn't surprising. Their first game bombed. Got greenlit a sequel due to THQ dumbfuckery, second game BOMBS even worse and THQ/Vigil is surprised?

Vigil should've stopped with Darksiders and tried something else, but the creator dude was still there and drove them off the mountain. Can't blame THQ for that other than pumping money into a failing IP because "hey, new IP launches are always dicey."

Anyway, THQ's only IP I enjoyed is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (IIRC, they published it in the West) need to get a copy of Call of Pripyat and Shadows of Chernobyl before Steam runs out of keys, I guess.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
please tell me you worked on the WWE car combat game :teehee

Hope it was this

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/WWF_Betrayal_Coverart.png)

:teehee

It was actually this :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJSpICjY8oY

Raw 1 and 2 for the Xbox. I quit about 80% into Raw 2 but most of my stuff is in there, I did all the FMV menus (my pitch was "It will be like Gran Turismo but with Wrestling!") and painted all the sign cards (I am shocked to see they are still using my jokes 10 years later). They were the first games I really worked on and it was good to cut my teeth on such a crazily run project, but yeah, never ever again.

BTW I worked on the original PRIDE FC for PS2 as well, that game was actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2013, 06:59:47 PM
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r117/zombiesupastar/bookt.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Raban on January 24, 2013, 07:02:30 PM
2008 was a great year for games
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 24, 2013, 07:37:45 PM
I thought Raw 2 was a good game so good on you. First WWE game that had the likeness of goldberg IIRC
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2013, 09:45:04 PM
Yeah I liked the RAW series better than Smackdown.

Wasn't the PRIDE PS2 game based on the DC UFC Game? Or the port of the PS2 version?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 24, 2013, 09:51:41 PM
The first time I ever played smackdown on the psx, my immediate reaction was this is too fast, it rewards running grapples too much, it animates like crap, and its a reversal-fest.


When I played WWE 13 for the first time a couple of weeks ago my impressions were, this rewards running grapples too much, it animates like crap, and its a reversal-fest. I guess I've gotten use to the speed.

From a high level view, they just don't have that tactical feel I like, that the old Aki games had.


The UFC games yukes have done also have their issues but they are better than the WWE games for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2013, 10:53:19 PM
Disclaimer: I have worked on a WWE game and it was the most stressful experience of my life.
:dap

Sucks. I loved the Darksiders games and I think they are a good developer, so this is especially sad for me cause I'm a fan.

As for Saints Row, I never had a doubt in my mind that it would keep existing. The one open world game set in modern times that was able to compete with GTA? It wasn't going to go extinct any time soon. But Darksiders  :(


Wasn't the same true of Windows containing legacy DOS code?

I'd be as happy as anyone to see WWE get a reboot, but it's not like Yuke's can't make a good wrestling game. Look at Day of Reckoning, made by kidnapped AKI employees, homeslice.

I never got to play it despite hearing great things. As a big AKI and wrestling fan who for some reason owns all the WWE games that came out last gen I still never got them even though I own both Game Cube Wrestlemania games and enjoyed them at the time.

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I've also never played No Mercy  :'(
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The two WrestleMania games, X8 and X9 were also made by those kidnapped AKI employees, though the first one has a lot of issues typical of launch/launch-window games. The create-a-wrestler feature was just some mix 'n' match parts, which could be configured to create striking likenesses of non-Roster WWE characters. The X9 CAW feature was, er, more robust. From either X9 or DoR1, there is a backstage, challenge-based, multiplayer mode which is a lot of fun. If you can find them used, I recommend both DoR1 and DoR2.

The first time I ever played smackdown on the psx, my immediate reaction was this is too fast, it rewards running grapples too much, it animates like crap, and its a reversal-fest.


When I played WWE 13 for the first time a couple of weeks ago my impressions were, this rewards running grapples too much, it animates like crap, and its a reversal-fest. I guess I've gotten use to the speed.

From a high level view, they just don't have that tactical feel I like, that the old Aki games had.


The UFC games yukes have done also have their issues but they are better than the WWE games for whatever reason.

Entirely different team; the UFC team is the main office in Osaka, the WWE team is out of Yokohama.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2013, 11:00:01 PM
please tell me you worked on the WWE car combat game :teehee

Hope it was this

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/WWF_Betrayal_Coverart.png)

:teehee

It was actually this :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJSpICjY8oY

Raw 1 and 2 for the Xbox. I quit about 80% into Raw 2 but most of my stuff is in there, I did all the FMV menus (my pitch was "It will be like Gran Turismo but with Wrestling!") and painted all the sign cards (I am shocked to see they are still using my jokes 10 years later). They were the first games I really worked on and it was good to cut my teeth on such a crazily run project, but yeah, never ever again.

BTW I worked on the original PRIDE FC for PS2 as well, that game was actually pretty good.

Yeah, PRIDE FC was a good game; too far ahead of its time, actually.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 25, 2013, 03:50:52 AM
Yeah I liked the RAW series better than Smackdown.

Wasn't the PRIDE PS2 game based on the DC UFC Game? Or the port of the PS2 version?

Pride was based on Dreamcast UFC. In fact, the original Pride demo was balanced and tuned on Dreamcast, which was very much dead at the time. I remember a bunch of THQ guys visiting Tokyo and absolutely flipping out when they saw the game running on Dreamcast. I remember explaining to them that it was just because it was faster to use the Sega tools for rapid prototyping, but they were still like "BUT IT'S RUNNING ON A DREAMCAST!" like that was the worst thing in the universe.

(All of the other UFC games were not done by us, we had little to no involvement aside from handing over source assets.)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on January 26, 2013, 11:17:59 PM
Yeah I liked the RAW series better than Smackdown.

Wasn't the PRIDE PS2 game based on the DC UFC Game? Or the port of the PS2 version?

Pride was based on Dreamcast UFC. In fact, the original Pride demo was balanced and tuned on Dreamcast, which was very much dead at the time. I remember a bunch of THQ guys visiting Tokyo and absolutely flipping out when they saw the game running on Dreamcast. I remember explaining to them that it was just because it was faster to use the Sega tools for rapid prototyping, but they were still like "BUT IT'S RUNNING ON A DREAMCAST!" like that was the worst thing in the universe.

(All of the other UFC games were not done by us, we had little to no involvement aside from handing over source assets.)

Yeah, THQ has trouble understanding caveats, even when you'd hold their hand and walk them through each, one by one. I had a few late nights and interrupted Sundays from panicked THQ handlers.

They'd be all  :o , and we'd be all  :D , then they'd  :maf , which made us  :-\ , then they'd  8)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 29, 2013, 02:47:04 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/28/vigil-co-founder-heads-up-crytek-usa?abthid=5106e5df3e3ba72124000025

Pretty cool
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 29, 2013, 03:29:32 AM
where does Crytek get this money from?  If they're the only ones floating dev costs of Homefront 2 now, how do they afford this?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 30, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
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Six different companies entertained the possibility of buying Saints Row studio Volition Inc. before it was eventually sold to Deep Silver parent company Koch Media last week, general manager Dan Cermak told The News Gazette.

 
Warner Bros., Electronic Arts, Take-Two, Ubisoft, Koch Media, and an unnamed group from Chicago all completed site visits in the weeks preceding the sale, he said.

However, only two companies--Koch Media and Ubisoft--submitted bids for Volition, with Koch Media's $22.3 million offer well ahead of the French publisher's $5.4 million bid.

Koch Media had 390 employees prior to the purchase and will take on all 185 Volition staffers. There will not be any layoffs and compensation packages are consistent, Cermak said.

What may change, though, is Volition's name. "Deep Silver Volition" is reportedly among the names being considered, Cermak said. Cermak also confirmed that Koch Media did not acquire the Red Faction franchise, the fate of which lies in limbo.

Cermak said the sale to Koch Media is a "very positive situation for us." He noted that because Koch Media is a private company, it does not face many of the pressures THQ did as a publicly traded entity, like meeting quarterly financial benchmarks.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2013, 02:24:57 PM
Welp, Darksiders is officially dead. Thank you game industry.

Red Faction is probably dead, too. :-\
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 30, 2013, 03:11:39 PM
where does Crytek get this money from?  If they're the only ones floating dev costs of Homefront 2 now, how do they afford this?

What they did was actually pretty hilarious.  Instead of bidding anything on Vigil, they let them die, then basically bought/rented a new building in the same town, hired pretty much everybody and changed the name of the studio.  Compared to buying the team/ip outright it's way smarter... but Darksiders is officially dead now, which kind of sucks.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Purple Filth on January 30, 2013, 04:19:05 PM
where does Crytek get this money from?  If they're the only ones floating dev costs of Homefront 2 now, how do they afford this?

Apparently they have military contracts for their CryEngine tech


What they did was actually pretty hilarious.  Instead of bidding anything on Volition, they let them die, then basically bought/rented a new building in the same town, hired pretty much everybody and changed the name of the studio.  Compared to buying the team/ip outright it's way smarter... but Darksiders is officially dead now, which kind of sucks.

You mean Vigil.



And for the Red Faction/Darksiders IP is lost people there is apparently gonna be another auction for "legacy IPs" so those could be picked up. Hopefully the groups that might pick them up will actually do something with them

Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Fifstar on January 30, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
Eh, I liked the gameplay of Darksiders but wasn't a fan of scenario and art so a new Ip could be a good thing, provided it would be another third person action adventure.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 30, 2013, 05:27:49 PM
DARKSIDERS IS THIS GEN'S SHENMUE

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Just kidding, Darksiders was actually good
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Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Raban on January 30, 2013, 06:11:22 PM
Forgive the odd comparison, but I feel like Darksiders was this gen's Maximo.
Title: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Huff on January 30, 2013, 07:28:49 PM
There is a 2nd auction where these IPs can be bought right?
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 30, 2013, 07:55:13 PM
We should buy Red Faction, I got five on it
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Trent Dole on January 30, 2013, 10:56:36 PM
We should buy Red Faction, I got five on it
Sphinctersoft's first release!  8)
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: originalz on February 04, 2013, 02:39:12 AM
I guess this is like how that insurance company ended up with the System Shock license, and they refuse to ever release it.  Hopefully THQ's stuff won't suffer that kind of fate, although I doubt any of their remaining IPs have as much love as something like SS.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 04, 2013, 03:23:36 AM
Yeah, apparently.  The IPs certainly won't go unowned by anyone, it's just a question of if they'll be owned by anyone who means to use them ever again.

or rather, use them for anything meaningful ever again i guess - every IP that can possibly be turned into a Facebook or card game can and will be i'm sure
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 04, 2013, 08:56:55 AM
We should buy Red Faction, I got five on it
Sphinctersoft's first release!  8)

Red Faction: Gorilla

You're a majestic silverback, and you tear stuff up in space.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on February 04, 2013, 06:56:59 PM
Red faction Vanilla: you are a lustrous, rich, and much sought after bean from Madagascar, and you tear shit up on Mars.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 05, 2013, 03:25:29 AM
Red Faction: Chinchilla

you are an...
ah forget it.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2013, 09:39:57 PM
Red Faction: Valhalla - You are a character caught between two games which will never ship.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 27, 2013, 02:10:08 PM
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Following THQ's dissolution as a publisher and the initial auctioning off of its current properties and games in development, the publisher had noted that many of its legacy franchises would also be going up for auction in a separate volley. Late yesterday, THQ announced the second wave of property auctions, which will begin on April 1 with opening bids, and conclude on April 15 with all final bids having been placed.

The auctions are broken out into six lots, four of which are franchise specific. The Red Faction, MX vs. ATV, Darksiders, and Homeworld franchises will all be purchasable separately (and include rights to all previous games released in those series), while a potpourri selection of other random games/franchises--including the likes of Destroy All Humans!, de Blob, Titan Quest, Deepak Chopra's Leela, recent Worms games, Costume Quest, and yes, even uDraw--have been cobbled together in the remaining two. It's worth noting that one of those collection auctions only pertains to licenses held by THQ, versus properties fully owned.

Once all bids are placed and approved by THQ's creditors, the remnants of the publisher will take those bids to the bankruptcy court, where they are expected to be approved. All of these bids and sales should be finalized by May.

Here's a full rundown of the available auction lots, provided this is something you're thinking about spending some money on. Just a warning: There's no sign of Big Mutha Truckers in this auction. So if you're dying to reboot this particular trucking franchise, you'll have to wait until the next THQ property auction.


Lot 1 - OWNED SOFTWARE

Red Faction
Red Faction Armageddon
Red Faction 2
Red Faction: Guerrilla


Lot 2 - OWNED SOFTWARE

Homeworld
Homeworld 2


Lot 3 - OWNED SOFTWARE

MX Alive
MX vs ATV Untamed
MX Superfly featuring Ricky Carmichael
MX vs. ATV Alive Tournament
MX Unleashed
MX vs. ATV Unleashed
MX vs ATV Reflex
MX vs. ATV: On The Edge


Lot 4 - OWNED SOFTWARE

Darksiders
Darksiders 2


Lot 5 - OWNED SOFTWARE


All Star Cheer Squad
Elements of Destruction
All Star Cheer Squad 2
Fantastic Pets
All Star Karate
Frontlines: Fuel of War
Baja: Edge of Control
Full Spectrum Warrior
Battle of the Bands
Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers
Beat City
Juiced
Big Beach Sports
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights
Big Beach Sports 2
Lock's Quest: Construction Combat
Big Family Games
Neighborhood Games
Crawler
Pax Imperia
de Blob
Stuntman: Ignition
de Blob 2
Summoner
Deadly Creatures
Summoner 2
Deep Six
Terranium
Destroy All Humans!
The Outfit
Destroy All Humans! 2
Titan Quest
Destroy All Humans! Big Willy Unleashed
Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon
uDraw
Dood's Big Adventure
World of Zoo
Drawn to Life
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter


Lot 6 - LICENSED SOFTWARE (buyer to pay any cure costs)

Costume Quest
Scripps Spelling Bee (Scripps)
Daniel X (SueJack)
Sherlock Holmes and the Mystery of Osborne House
Deepak Chopra's Leela (Curious Holdings)
Stacking
Fancy Nancy: Tea Party Time! (Harper Collins)
Supreme Commander
Jeopardy
Supreme Commander Forged Alliance
Jeopardy 2
The Biggest Loser
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Truth or Lies
Let's Ride Best of Breed
Vampire Legends: Power of Three (dtp)
Marvel Super Hero Squad: Comic Combat
Wheel of Fortune
Marvel Super Hero Squad: The Infinity Gauntlet
Wheel of Fortune 2
Marvel Super Hero Squad: The Infinity Gauntlet 2
Nancy Drew: The Hidden Staircase
Worms 2
Nexuiz
Worms Battle Islands
Paws & Claws Marine Rescue
Worms Open Warfare
Paws & Claws Pampered Pets Resort 3D
Worms: A Space Oddity
PurrPals 2
Worms: Open Warfare 2 (Team 17)
Rio
You Don't Know Jack (Jellyvision)
Rocket Riot
Screwjumper (Frozen Codebase)

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/a-huge-chunk-of-thq-s-remaining-properties-up-for-/1100-4588/
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2013, 02:15:17 PM
Titan Quest :omg
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 27, 2013, 02:54:14 PM
lol @ Lot 5  :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2013, 03:08:38 PM
Lot 5 will probably sell for about $10. :lol
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2013, 03:37:21 PM
I'd own Titan Quest ip for $10  :babylawd
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2013, 03:38:54 PM
Crate Entertainment would probably like to get their hands on it, too bad it's packed together with a load of junk.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2013, 09:39:30 PM
Watch somebody like UbiSoft pay millions to get Lot 5 for uDraw.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: benjipwns on February 27, 2013, 10:26:58 PM
I wonder if the terms would allow a bunch of smaller developers to team up in some manner to bid on a lot and then split it up among themselves after. I know some auctions won't allow that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 27, 2013, 10:58:16 PM
think of what we could do with to all star cheer squad :jawalrus
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Trent Dole on February 28, 2013, 12:17:57 AM
I wonder if the terms would allow a bunch of smaller developers to team up in some manner to bid on a lot and then split it up among themselves after. I know some auctions won't allow that kind of thing.
Yeah, my reaction to the giant lots of :poop was some folks should group up and buy them then sell 'em off piecemeal/dole 'em out to who wants.
Title: Re: Goodnight Sweet THQ
Post by: Momo on February 28, 2013, 12:19:40 AM
Lot 5 is best lot (apart from Homeworld lot)