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Title: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 07:41:54 AM
Now that this gen is basicly over, what would your game of the gen be?

For me, I guess, it would have to be Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. A game that redefined FPS for a whole generation. Still the best COD to this day, the Chernobyl level <3 Amazing multiplayer too ofcourse which kept me playing for a hundred hours at least.

The level of grittyness this had was just boner inducing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhuIjNSg7Gg

Runner up, just because it's a pure game with great sound and visuals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N1TJP1cxmo
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 20, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
Super Mario Galaxy
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Third on December 20, 2012, 07:52:24 AM
Super Mario Galaxy

This
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 07:58:14 AM
I see what you did there Borys :)

Wow is technically last gen I think since it came out before the 360. If one can count that way. Otherwise it would be my GOTG too.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Positive Touch on December 20, 2012, 08:18:26 AM
skyrim: the game that lasts forever
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 08:21:11 AM
Super Mario Galaxy

This
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 20, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
I liked SMG, but I didn't play it and have my mind blown like other all-time greats. That's a pretty sad statement on the quality of the other games released this generation if people consider it the best.

Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 20, 2012, 08:30:56 AM
Dark Souls.  Might be Demon's Souls...still have to play that.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 08:34:25 AM
Game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmN8DHZYNCg

Of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZpeDQBw3xg

The

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BatLwZXdBw

Generation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2kxFCQ_mQ


Dem chills. Dem smiles as you play it. The level design. Perfect game. 11/10. No other answer is correct for me, and it's been that way since I first played it. Beat that game in like two-three days, did the second set of stars. Replayed it AGAIN a year later, same awesome shit.

:bow
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 08:36:02 AM
I liked SMG, but I didn't play it and have my mind blown like other all-time greats. That's a pretty sad statement on the quality of the other games released this generation if people consider it the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZpeDQBw3xg
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 08:39:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZpR51XgW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBctl1h_2o
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Beezy on December 20, 2012, 08:39:36 AM
MW brought me into this gen and "HD" gaming, so it's definitely up there for me. MW2 was good too, but something about it didn't feel as good as the original. Got bored with the franchise after Black Ops.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 08:53:41 AM
Best systems: Nintendo DS and Sony PSP.

Between the two of them I have 100 games. Time well spent on most of them. Best system race since SNES vs Genesis, two platforms with unique forms of gaming in the midst of Hollywood gaming embrace on consoles. DS has good story-based genres (rpgs, adventure games) while psp lead the charge with arcade pick up and play gaming (racing, puzzle, action, strategy). The result? Two systems that complimented each other like a glove. When one had a down period, the other was booming and had something new on the horizon.

Handheld gaming absolutely murdered console gaming this generation if you're the type of gamer that appreciates unique, fresh experiences.

Handheld GOTG: Crush, Dragon Quest IX.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 20, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
Mass Effect 2
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 09:06:12 AM
Nice summary Himu but funny how you said handheld gaming = unique, fresh experience and then named Dragon Quest fucking 9 as GOTG.

Amazing game but it is anything but fresh and unique.

Um. I also listed Crush. Whether DQIX is fresh and unique is impertinent to handheld gaming's oeuvre. It's a personal choice of handheld GOTG, since it's my favorite ds game.

Plus, Crush is unique as shit.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 20, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
or maybe it's a tie between

--MGS HD Collection
--DMC HD Collection
--ICO/SOTC HD Collection
--Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1

Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: archie4208 on December 20, 2012, 09:09:04 AM
Portal and Mario Galaxy

Portal 2 had better puzzle design, but Portal's gameplay was fresh at the time.

Same deal with Mario Galaxy.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: demi on December 20, 2012, 09:13:34 AM
COD4 easily belongs on some list. EVERYONE is trying to take from it in some form.

Angry Birds cemented mobile games as a "thing" -- now you have everyone trying to make it big (and failing miserably). while also introducing us to horrific "physics" games and 3-star crap.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 09:36:50 AM
Game of the Generation is mostly seen as a personal thing. Since when does Game of the Generation mean "Most Influential Game"? As a game Angry Birds sucked shit until Space and Star Wars.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 20, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
Super Mario Galaxy or Skryim
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Brehvolution on December 20, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZpR51XgW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBctl1h_2o

I'll second this.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: demi on December 20, 2012, 09:48:06 AM
As a game Angry Birds sucked shit until Space and Star Wars.

Doesn't matter. I think Angry Birds is abysmal in any form. But you didn't give two shits for mobile until Angry Birds came along.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 20, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
Prooooobably Banjo Nuts & Bolts.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:23:41 AM
Does Monster Hunter count as this Gen?
Can I preemptively give it to PSO2?

If not I'd say it's a tosser for me between Yakuza 3 and Bayonetta
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 10:32:21 AM
I was thinking about this earlier, actually.  Don't think I can pick one between Fallout 3, Skyrim and Diablo 3.  I guess I'd say Bethesda is my developer of the gen, for sure.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 20, 2012, 10:39:38 AM
Uncharted

Runner up: Killzone 2

PC: Mass Effect 2
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 20, 2012, 10:44:17 AM
In terms of something that realizes everything that's possible with this gen, I'd have to say:

Ass Creed II
Red Dead Redemption
Fallout 3/Skyrim


...or Daytona USA.

Man this is hard.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 20, 2012, 10:51:40 AM
It's funny how so many people, especially weeaboos, said that this gen sucked but now it's clear there were so many quality games that defied expectations.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 10:55:14 AM
It's Demon's Souls for me.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 20, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
It's funny how so many people, especially weeaboos, said that this gen sucked but now it's clear there were so many quality games that defied expectations.


Its a weird gen to quantify...I basically agree with everything in this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504949

but I've also been buying or getting backlogged on new releases on a monthly basis.  And I have a good chunk of my favorite games from the past between my XBL and PSN accounts, thanks to HD ports and classic system roms/isos on each store.  Even a bunch of games I never got to play before.  They went crazy re-releasing just about everything that was popular and even a bunch that had a niche fanbase but with good critical reviews.

I've bought more than ever, but all my favorite franchises got fucked in the ass in one way or another and they all happened to be Japanese franchises.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2012, 11:08:36 AM
Console: Xenoblade
PC: Ys Origin
Handheld: The World Ends With You
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Diunx on December 20, 2012, 11:09:24 AM
Metal Gear Solid 4
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2012, 11:14:22 AM
I'll just pick a couple

COD 4: Completed what Halo 2 started and turned me into an mp player. I think Black ops 2 is a better game but nothing hit harder than COD 4 initially.
Fallout 3: The first game that made me get the whole Bethesda thing.
RDR: Best and most novel open world game of the gen.
Mass Effect 2: For a time made mass effect as relevant to me as Star Trek.

Lots of great games this gen but those were just on another level for me.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 20, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
An Audio Journey Through the Games of the Generation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsE1JZCSno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrvvkW2blw0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZxBtLGxvvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrY1mTbslM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7oUk9WizNc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJD69SHJr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiN6t7K7txw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpI-KeK-PQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbQVgmq1TE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ad6CMDSvM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYLxlIF7Wn0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDM2qukzKwg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOGhNuOGr9Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxkO9Q85EaA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hAOPBmS-Pg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csdoae_WEp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N1lqxg4zGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dThaK8pIIc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyRT_n7uadY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUKjplgpr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4DwFKB8hTA

And probably some stuff I missed or don't care about but whatever.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 12:12:23 PM
Super Mario Galaxy

Yup.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
Bioshock is a game that I feel, had it come out later into the generation and taken better advantage of the tech would have been right up there.  It's still a really good game but has aged kind of poorly in some aspects.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 12:14:58 PM
Super Mario Galaxy

Yup.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY YOUR CHOICE
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
There's a lot of different games I could have gone with but SMG just felt right.

But I guess if you didn't play 100% of all games in existence you don't get to have an opinion or whatever. ::)

Also I own BioShock and it's just OK.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 20, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
Single: Fallout 3.

Multi: WoW TBC lol. Still playing vanilla and TBC on private servers fml

/thisgensucks
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Steve Contra on December 20, 2012, 12:28:52 PM
Mirror's Edge was awesome.  Nothing like it, and little chance there will ever be anything else like it.
Fallout New Vegas :-[ Pretty much everything I wanted a 3d Fallout to be.
The two Batman games were like the games Nintendo would make if they didn't suck so bad anymore.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 20, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
The games i've had the most fun with are basically :

Chromehounds
Fallout 3
Left4Dead
Portal
GoW

and  to pick one as my game of the gen?

Chromehounds

Incredibly sad that the servers were pulled - game was brilliant. With a few tweaks in a follow up and an expansion of the online war thing and this could have been even more incredible. :bow From Software :bow2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu-4df-uTY
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
I think the games I've played the most and enjoyed the most gen would be Vanquish, Final Fantasy XIII, and Xenoblade. So one of those most likely.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Steve Contra on December 20, 2012, 01:13:30 PM
Chromehounds was pretty boss.  If it had been released a little later with a bigger population I think it may have survived and had a sequel.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Fifstar on December 20, 2012, 01:58:21 PM
I've yet to play a lot of the big games thoroughly but so far the game I had the most fun with in the last couple of years is probably VVVVVV.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 20, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
Portal
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 20, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Chromehounds was pretty boss.  If it had been released a little later with a bigger population I think it may have survived and had a sequel.

the big thing was also the servers didn't come online right away - and it wasn't very clear that the single player mode was simply to just teach you how to build/handle the different mech types. So as a single player game it's utterly awful. But damn... the multiplayer.... sooooooooooo good. I can't believe other systems haven't stolen a load of the ideas.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Steve Contra on December 20, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
I probably pitched 4 games in my time using systems from Chromehounds.  Unfortunately no one who listens to pitches knows what systems even are, they just want art :'(
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
There's a lot of different games I could have gone with but SMG just felt right.

But I guess if you didn't play 100% of all games in existence you don't get to have an opinion or whatever. ::)

Also I own BioShock and it's just OK.

Andrex most of us are totally fine with SMG being picked as the game of the generation, and we also tend to make fun each of other's quirks. So can you stop with this passive aggressive "it's me against the bore" bullshit?

:lol You must have an anti-persecution complex if you think I take any of this seriously. If I did I wouldn't be here.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 02:39:09 PM
The games i've had the most fun with are basically :

Chromehounds
Fallout 3
Left4Dead
Portal
GoW

and  to pick one as my game of the gen?

Chromehounds

Incredibly sad that the servers were pulled - game was brilliant. With a few tweaks in a follow up and an expansion of the online war thing and this could have been even more incredible. :bow From Software :bow2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu-4df-uTY

Totally forgot about L4D, game was really bad ass online with a good crew. Lots if tension when a big final wave came in.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 03:37:36 PM
It's funny how so many people, especially weeaboos, said that this gen sucked but now it's clear there were so many quality games that defied expectations.

This post is terrible. This gen didn't start getting balls out amazing for me until 2010. 2007 wax great, but once GTAIV and FFXIII hit, the hits kept coming.

Weeaboos hate this gen because almost EVERY main stay series went to shit. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Final Fantasy -> shit
Resident Evil -> shit
Metal Gear Solid -> shit
Zelda -> shit
Devil May Cry -> shit
Ninja Gaiden -> shit
Metroid -> shit

All this and more. We can take this further:

Splinter Cell -> shit
GTA -> shit

Thankfully for many games on this list there were replacements (ie. NG/DMC -> Bayo or GTA -> SR).
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
GOTG Modded Morrowind. :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
If I had to chose a game that actually came out this gen it would be a toss up for me between Fallout 3 or Oblivion.
[close]
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 03:43:30 PM
Also, for all the great games listed in this thread, they're all SAFE. Please direct me to the Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarters, or the Dark Clouds, the Bully's, the SSX's, the Mister Mosquitos of this gen? You can't. Because they don't fucking exist. I think criticism towards this generation is fully warranted. It is the safest generation I've ever witnessed as a gamer. Sure, lots of great games happened, but NOTHING aside from Portal, Red Dead Redemption, Dead Rising, and Mario Galaxy blew my socks off in regards to how damn original it is.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 03:52:05 PM
That's a bad comparison. I don't have to go out of my way to find music that isn't safe. The original games this gen were mostly on handhelds or indie, but mostly on handhelds. If the music industry comparison were true, there would be easily an underground and unsafe alternative for console gaming. For console gaming there isn't one. Unless you want to count xbla/psn, but most of those are retreads of games I grew up playing when I was a kid (and I like it that way).
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
You're pretty sure it isn't true, but you're not willing to argue it?

Okay!
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 03:57:59 PM
I started writing a long list before I shut down the tab. There are plenty of "hidden gems" like Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, Flower etc. They weren't exactly safe investments.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 20, 2012, 04:00:47 PM
Arkham City
Fallout 3
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:01:30 PM
I started writing a long list before I shut down the tab. There are plenty of "hidden gems" like Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, Flower etc. They weren't exactly safe investments.

There are some, yes. Those games are pretty good examples, but it doesn't take away from the fact that they were far from the norm. In previous generations, you didn't exactly have to play outside the mainstream in order to find a unique experience. Take 2001 for example, Devil May Cry. A new video game on the market that made its own genre. Grand Theft Auto III, self explanatory. I am mostly talking about the mainstream; hidden gems will always exist. I can't say with a straight face that any of these mainstream games, aside from games like Portal tried to be different and not buck the trend.

I think on a very objective scale, games were definitely more me too compared to past generations. But that's what happens when you have to sell 2 million copies just to break even.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 20, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
GotG and my fav television actress of the 90's: SMG
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 04:07:41 PM
The mainstream audience is people who play Madden, Call of Duty, and maybe a racing game. You can't expect them to be interested in original games. However, if you take a look at handheld systems, smaller console titles, and indie development for PC, you'll find plenty of original and iconic games. For instance Minecraft will leave a far greater impression on society than the PS2 games you mentioned.

Edit: You're right about the budget thing. We have gotten plenty of "me too" games from the larger publishers. I also get the impression that most of the weak Call of Duty and World of Warcraft clones failed miserably.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:09:16 PM
Minecraft, I think, is a big exception. And you raise a good point.

And it's one of the few games like Portal that buck the trend. And I disagree, I think the masses do care about original experiences (in some limited way) or else games like DMC, SSX, GTAIII wouldn't have gotten off the ground in the first place.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
Oh, I almost always forget about them. But you also have casual games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Kinect etc. Those are pretty popular and innovative too, even though they're not for me.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 04:12:58 PM
GotG and my fav television actress of the 90's: SMG

SMG was crazy hot. Super crushed on her.

I'm not saying you take it seriously, I'm just saying that it's fucking annoying.

:rofl You see what you want.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:13:52 PM
I forgot about the casual games. Those are pretty unique experiences. Just Dance games are games that weren't possible in past gens. I guess in my brain I automatically x'd them out because, you know why...
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I forgot about the casual games. Those are pretty unique experiences. Just Dance games are games that weren't possible in past gens. I guess in my brain I automatically x'd them out because, you know why...

Guitar Hero. :rock

spoiler (click to show/hide)
GH5 was my favorite music game this gen. Great peripheral too.
[close]
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:17:08 PM
GotG and my fav television actress of the 90's: SMG

SMG was crazy hot. Super crushed on her.

Seems to me SMG is leading this shit.

(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/mynicca1.png)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oL27RfTzTI

I forgot about the casual games. Those are pretty unique experiences. Just Dance games are games that weren't possible in past gens. I guess in my brain I automatically x'd them out because, you know why...

Guitar Hero. :rock

spoiler (click to show/hide)
GH5 was my favorite music game this gen. Great peripheral too.
[close]

Guitar Hero started on ps2 and wasn't exactly fully original to begin with (see: benami)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
I meant more in terms of great casual games than original this-gen-only experiences.

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glzkh5jl31k

:rock
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Barry Egan on December 20, 2012, 04:24:21 PM
It was probably Half-Life Source for me but I know that doesn't really count.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:28:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p2qAE6xrBQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXmeyxsZkL4

(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/win.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/mynicca1.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/rejoice.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/krs.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/lawd.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/babylawd.png)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seBUi_BnOs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8OqKebxqdY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X12NY6d4aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCEy3FJ2_qo

(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/gladbron.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/leo.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/smugdon.png) (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/CsL1W.png)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
GOTG Modded Morrowind. :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
If I had to chose a game that actually came out this gen it would be a toss up for me between Fallout 3 or Oblivion.
[close]

Only true deviates would say Oblivion > Skryim
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 04:38:13 PM
I don't think an open world Western game was exactly a safe bet in 2010, even if it was a Rockstar game.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
GOTG Modded Morrowind. :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
If I had to chose a game that actually came out this gen it would be a toss up for me between Fallout 3 or Oblivion.
[close]

Only true deviates would say Oblivion > Skryim

All TES games are better than Skyrim except Arena :smug
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
I don't think an open world Western game was exactly a safe bet in 2010, even if it was a Rockstar game.

I listed RDR as an unsafe bet, so I agree. But more than that, RDR was an original sandbox experience amidst the rest of the genre harping on last gen stuff. RDR was the first sandbox game to feel actually next gen in its approach.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 04:41:49 PM
yeah, I saw that after i'd already posted

RDR bro daps :punch
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 04:44:17 PM
yeah, I saw that after i'd already posted

RDR bro daps :punch

I really wish there was a PC port because I don't own any consoles.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
First HD game I played: Dead Rising. Didn't get a 360 until 2007.

GOTY's over the years:

2007 - Persona 3
2008 - Persona 4/Fallout 3
2009 - Resident Evil 5/Uncharted 2
2010 - Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 / Red Dead Redemption
2011 - Saints Row The Third/Skyrim/Dynasty Warriors 7
2012 - Warriors Orochi 3/Diablo 3
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
I disagree, I get a lot of specific games from consoles. Consoles have their uses.

If we talked about franchises that improved this generation, it would be such a small number compared to the franchises that have deteriorated.
Title: Game of the generation
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 20, 2012, 05:30:10 PM
I didn't end up playing a lot of games this gen, not even the ones I already bought. But of what I *did* play, thoroughly, I'd say:
Console- Toss up between the Soul games. (Far from perfect but made big statements and inspired other games/devs in a positive way)
Handhelds- Tactics Ogre. (Hit all the right notes for me. It represents exactly what I want out of portable games)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
Someone mentioned Guitar Hero, good one.

I also have a weak spot for Uncharted, Tomb Raider (the first one on 360), Walking Dead, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Gears, Alan Wake.

Maybe all super safe mainstream choices but hey maybe im just average joe as far as gaming tastes go on this board, but among my friends im def the only one that played Super Meat Boy, Miami Hotline etc.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
I'm saying straight up that even console specific/centric genres suck dick right now. Fighting games? stale. JRPG's? pathetic. 3D action hacknslash? most of the best titles are on PC. I guess if you play mostly Japanese games right now, you're probably starting to hate gaming. Well, blame it on them. As for franchises.... Who cares? Franchises are born, live, die, and are sometimes reborn. Personally I think a lot of NEW franchises/talent have emerged that are really really stellar, despite a shit economy in Japan, the US, and the EU.

If anything this gen proved that you don't have anything to look forward to from consoles next gen except for first party stuff. And even then? fuck buying a console for what any of these dudes are making. I can understand owning consoles... But being console specific in 2012? I honestly feel kind of sorry for you dude.

Why do you feel sorry for me? I play on console, handheld, and pc. I'm just talking discussion. Games are great.

I think it's important to note franchises, because franchises are staples. Almost all the great games this gen were new franchises. That's true. But when almost every old franchise has delivered middling or awful results, I thin that's something worth discussing since it affects this hobby of ours.

I never said this generation is awful, because it isn't. I love this generation thoroughly, but holy shit is it a cluster fuck and the changing of times/era. I think that's fun to discuss, because things like that don't happen often. If anything, I'd say, at this point, if you can't find anything to enjoy across all platforms (console, pc, handheld) something is wrong.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 05:38:04 PM
Tomb Raider is a franchise that made a good comeback this gen after the last.

I havent played the new MK but it seemed to make a splash too.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 05:40:04 PM
I agree.

Games that made improvements:

- Tomb Raider
- Sonic
- FIFA
- Red Dead
- Call of Duty
- NBA2k
- fighting games in general

Games that made comebacks:

- X-Com
- Fallout
- Gianna Sisters
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 05:45:13 PM
Wow almost forgot Read Dead 1 was two gens ago :) great comebacks indeed for Fallot and Xcom.

Another game that fell off Pro Evo Soccer.

Not sure about COD, it was already big, it just blew up with MW.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 05:50:32 PM
Wow almost forgot Read Dead 1 was two gens ago :) great comebacks indeed for Fallot and Xcom.

Another game that fell off Pro Evo Soccer.

Not sure about COD, it was already big, it just blew up with MW.

Games that went down the shitter:

- Final Fantasy
- Metal Gear
- Devil May Cry
- Ninja Gaiden
- Civilization
- PES
- NBA Live :rofl
- Gran Turismo
- Splinter Cell
- Kingdom Hearts
- Diablo (arguable)
- Mega Man
- Castlevania
- Grand Theft Auto
- SOCOM
- Prince of Persia
- Resident Evil
- Zelda

On top of those other franchises I listed that made improvements, I'd say Mario and Rayman.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
Moba games are really big now too, sure Dota was a wc3 mod but they really developed into something huuuge now.

starcraft 2 is another amazing comeback and diablo 3 too for most (not me).

Edit: damn good list himu. Id argue civilization cause of 4 and civ rev.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 05:53:15 PM
And yeah what happened to the NBA games, they used to be big even here in europe.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 05:53:29 PM
On the other hand, we have so many awesome new IPs to play.

Gen is really fucking crazy. Next gen will get even crazier. (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/gladbron.png)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2012, 05:53:58 PM
Wow almost forgot Read Dead 1 was two gens ago :) great comebacks indeed for Fallot and Xcom.

Another game that fell off Pro Evo Soccer.

Not sure about COD, it was already big, it just blew up with MW.

The big jump with COD was the multiplayer in 4. The idea of perks, customization, and leveling-up permanently changed everything in the mp world. Not that it was the first to use all of those concepts but it was the first to combine it all in a package for the masses. As an admitted fan of COD everything in the series since has been balance fixes essentially to the concept. But that original (4 I mean) one dropped the bomb. Before that it was just another popular game series among other popular game series. After that it made the leap.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2012, 05:55:25 PM
And yeah what happened to the NBA games, they used to be big even here in europe.


The 2k basketball series is very popular in America. The NBA Live series fell off due to incompetence.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 20, 2012, 05:59:59 PM
oh, i guess if it counts as part of this gen, the game i played the most this last gen was easily Monster Hunter 3rd P.

And , of course, i have a stinking great chub on for the series - just completely burnt out after 3rd P, so getting back into 3G was slow and painful (especially as Jonnyram and my wife decided to skip it because ... well, same reason i guess. No desire to go back to Jaggi armour to go hunting the low level monsters after you've just spent weeks kicking the shit out of the 3rd P end game/hidden Ancients).

Now, i know 3G/U now has online play but.... hell is other Monster Hunter teams. Our team is a well drilled and practiced set up - whenever i've played with anyone else it just doesn't feel right and they nearly -always- do something that we wouldn't (deploying traps too early, wrong elemental weapon, no shit bombs (WHY WHY WHY?) , no on-field item creation, suicide bomb triggers, positions aren't decided etc). So yeah - MH4 is going to be when the whole thing starts again.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 06:00:37 PM
Wow almost forgot Read Dead 1 was two gens ago :) great comebacks indeed for Fallot and Xcom.

Another game that fell off Pro Evo Soccer.

Not sure about COD, it was already big, it just blew up with MW.

The big jump with COD was the multiplayer in 4. The idea of perks, customization, and leveling-up permanently changed everything in the mp world. Not that it was the first to use all of those concepts but it was the first to combine it all in a package for the masses. As an admitted fan of COD everything in the series since has been balance fixes essentially to the concept. But that original (4 I mean) one dropped the bomb. Before that it was just another popular game series among other popular game series. After that it made the leap.

I know I know thats why I started this thread by naming COD4 my gotg ;)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Wow almost forgot Read Dead 1 was two gens ago :) great comebacks indeed for Fallot and Xcom.

Another game that fell off Pro Evo Soccer.

Not sure about COD, it was already big, it just blew up with MW.

Games that went down the shitter:

- Final Fantasy
- Metal Gear
- Devil May Cry
- Ninja Gaiden
- Civilization
- PES
- NBA Live :rofl
- Gran Turismo
- Splinter Cell
- Kingdom Hearts
- Diablo (arguable)
- Mega Man
- Castlevania
- Grand Theft Auto
- SOCOM
- Prince of Persia
- Resident Evil
- Zelda

On top of those other franchises I listed that made improvements, I'd say Mario and Rayman.

You forgot Metroid.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Earlier I gave my personal games of the generation but if if you tweak the thread to most important or influential games of the gen I would also have to include Minecraft and League of Legends.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 06:46:25 PM
Wow almost forgot Read Dead 1 was two gens ago :) great comebacks indeed for Fallot and Xcom.

Another game that fell off Pro Evo Soccer.

Not sure about COD, it was already big, it just blew up with MW.

Games that went down the shitter:

- Final Fantasy
- Metal Gear
- Devil May Cry
- Ninja Gaiden
- Civilization
- PES
- NBA Live :rofl
- Gran Turismo
- Splinter Cell
- Kingdom Hearts
- Diablo (arguable)
- Mega Man
- Castlevania
- Grand Theft Auto
- SOCOM
- Prince of Persia
- Resident Evil
- Zelda

On top of those other franchises I listed that made improvements, I'd say Mario and Rayman.

Haha, look at that list.  So much of it is Japan-centric.  I would put DQ on there as well, because I'm not playing shit on handhelds anymore, fuck it.  That's just me though.  The Fire Emblem wii game kinda sucked as well.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 07:04:10 PM
Creepy Old Guy's Andrexocity into account.

What does this mean? ???
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Steve Contra on December 20, 2012, 07:16:22 PM
It's sort of amazing just how much Call of Duty overshadowed the traditional gaming market this generation. 
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 07:24:14 PM
Creepy Old Guy's Andrexocity into account.

What does this mean? ???

I think it means "general unreasonableness and possible fucktardery" or something along those lines
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 07:42:41 PM
Creepy Old Guy's Andrexocity into account.

What does this mean? ???

Writing off games for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual games.  We all do it sometimes.  Some of us more than others.  Might have some connection to what I've named it!

In Andrex's case not enough whimsy and open source?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: iconoclast on December 20, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
Top three:

Mushihime-sama Futari (AC - 2006, 2007; 360 - 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xew7EoiNkWY

This is probably my favorite game of all time. Between versions 1.5 and Black Label, there are 6 different modes that cater to players of all skill levels, complete with different scoring systems. 1.5 Maniac and God are my favorites of the bunch.

Ninja Gaiden II (360 - 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0Hf_SN_Xs

The pinnacle of action game combat. The survival missions also make it an excellent game to play for score, where the most skilled players dominate the top of the leaderboards.

Akai Katana Shin (AC - 2010, 2012; 360 - 2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcSE8mc1trE

Everything about this game is great. All three modes, both of the scoring systems, all three characters, the art, graphics, and music. I'd put it right behind Futari as my second favorite shooter.

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Other favorites (in no real order): Death Smiles 1 & 2, Demon's & Dark Souls, Ouendan 1 & 2, Street Fighter IV, Shadowrun, Espgaluda II, Vanquish, Bayonetta, Catherine, Hard Corps: Uprising, Mega Man 9, Dead Rising 1, Strania, Child of Eden, Muchi Muchi Pork!, Bionic Commando Rearmed, Virtua Fighter 5, EDF 2017, Sin & Punishment 2, Crimzon Clover, Bangai-O HD.

Overall, this gen has been pretty good. Mostly because of the small developers that would rather make good games instead of lots of money.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Timber on December 20, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
IT basically Fallout 3 and Persona 4. Can't even process how soft I am for this games  :omg :omg :omg :omg :gun
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 08:22:49 PM
Creepy Old Guy's Andrexocity into account.

What does this mean? ???

Writing off games for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual games.  We all do it sometimes.  Some of us more than others.  Might have some connection to what I've named it!

HEY

It's not that I'm super petty and don't want to play the series on a nintendo console- we've already established that if I like a series enough, I'll even buy a console for it alone (see Fire Emblem).  It's more to do with the fact that I don't like handhelds in general and specifically am not a big enough DQ fan to buy a handheld for that game alone.

Will get a 3ds for fire emblem at some point.  I have a problem.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 20, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
Hey wait, Metal Gear Rising is out in Feb....

I'll just bump it then.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 09:19:41 PM
There are a bunch more games I loved this gen, but I figured I ought to narrow it down to the two I spent the most amount of time with
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
Effin great point Oscar, never thought of it that way.

But for the sake of continuity franchises like Halo, cod, morrowind, gta continued their influence, even to new levels. Western gamea matured this gen.

I think the turning point was the xbox which was a western platform and made pc devs make console games. (Coupled with the pre-steam pc troubles).
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 09:29:43 PM
Something else that occured to me is that with better graphics Japanese games stand out more and more in their looks. Maybe making them less attractive to westerners.

Cloud was a blocky dude you could imagine to be anyone really, but going forward games like FF13 look extremely japanese, something that wasnt the case two gens ago cause of hardware limitations.

The big japanese hits in the west look western many aspects, dead rising, resident evil, metal gear. But games like Bayonetta and Vanquish fail to connect somehow, maybe because of their looks and overall feel.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 09:32:17 PM
Anyway, the main reason why Himu's list looks so Japan-centric is that the west had little to lose this gen.  Most of the grand old western franchises were killed last gen, though this gen we've seen a couple of very successful revivals (Deus Ex, Fallout, X-Com seems like it too?).  Stuff like Ultima, Wizardry, HoM&M, C&C, Lucasarts adventure games, Doom, Quake, Duke Nukem, Sierra's licenses, Syndicate, Zork, Thief, Mech Warrior, and so on all took their dirt naps quality or financial-wise before this gen started. 

I think in a way that was kind of liberating, because Western developers kind of had to dig their way in on the backs of new IP, to excellent results.  With a few exceptions, the great western games this generation have been new IPs, with attempts to ride on the backs of dormant or damaged IPs largely failing.  Hopefully the scorched earth done on most long-in-the-tooth Japanese franchises leads to a similar creative revival for the big companies there, next gen.

I'm always bewildered at "WHERE ARE THE NEW IPS??" bullcrap I hear from fanboys cause this gen's biggest games were new IPs that started this gen(Gears Of War, Mass Effect, Dead Space, etc.) that barely have more than 3 games under the franchise, and the revivals like Deus Ex, Street Fighter and Fallout were long overdue as well. Now they're mad that those franchises hit it big and are being milked, which is more to do with the industry than anything else and I'm sure once interest eventually wanes on some of those blockbusters you'll see more new IPs coming out.

I think you're projecting or stretching the truth a bit here. There's a select minority of people (often quite stupid) who complain about lack of new ips.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 20, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Something else that occured to me is that with better graphics Japanese games stand out more and more in their looks. Maybe making them less attractive to westerners.

Cloud was a blocky dude you could imagine to be anyone really, but going forward games like FF13 look extremely japanese, something that wasnt the case two gens ago cause of hardware limitations.

The big japanese hits in the west look western many aspects, dead rising, resident evil, metal gear. But games like Bayonetta and Vanquish fail to connect somehow, maybe because of their looks and overall feel.

I think if the games were quality, it wouldn't matter.  Not saying it doesn't to some people, but those people are racists, or as I like to call them "Borys"
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 09:36:36 PM
Im not even talking about animu stuff Wrath, just something about Japanese games that aesthetically feels off, like it doesn't connect.

I think many people would say bayonetta and vanquish are superior to gow and gears, yet the latter sell millions while the former are dead.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 09:38:29 PM
It's a simple matter of advertising, Lager. Gears of War has a ridiculous ad campaign championed by Microsoft  - who put insane amount of money into their advertising. Bayo and Vanquish are published by fucking Sega. I never even saw a Vanquish commercial on tv. If they were advertised well, I think we'd have sequels out by now. Advertising is half the game.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 09:42:50 PM
Something else that occured to me is that with better graphics Japanese games stand out more and more in their looks. Maybe making them less attractive to westerners.

Cloud was a blocky dude you could imagine to be anyone really, but going forward games like FF13 look extremely japanese, something that wasnt the case two gens ago cause of hardware limitations.

The big japanese hits in the west look western many aspects, dead rising, resident evil, metal gear. But games like Bayonetta and Vanquish fail to connect somehow, maybe because of their looks and overall feel.

I think if the games were quality, it wouldn't matter.  Not saying it doesn't to some people, but those people are racists, or as I like to call them "Borys"

Maybe a movie analogy. There are arguably loads of good foreign movies, yet the people the world over flock to hollywood flicks. Something they can connect too intristically through exposure to us culture. Maybe its a trickle down effect from this or something.

We have become so bombarded with imagery in the last decade, more so then ever through internet and smartphones, maybe people have become more sensitive to these things.

Maybe im just drunk though :)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 20, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
I'm always bewildered at "WHERE ARE THE NEW IPS??" bullcrap I hear from fanboys cause this gen's biggest games were new IPs that started this gen(Gears Of War, Mass Effect, Dead Space, etc.) that barely have more than 3 games under the franchise

Dishonored, Bioshock, Mirror's Edge, Borderlands, Overlord, Batman: Arkham [Noun], The Witcher, Crysis, STALKER, Saints Row, Sleeping Dogs, Dragon Age, Dead Rising, Portal, Left 4 Dead, Dark/Demon Souls, Alpha Protocol, Darksiders, Dead Island, Risen, RAGE, ect.

Okay, some of those aren't so big and some won't ever be more than a one-off, but whatever.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 09:47:58 PM
It's a simple matter of advertising, Lager. Gears of War has a ridiculous ad campaign championed by Microsoft  - who put insane amount of money into their advertising. Bayo and Vanquish are published by fucking Sega. I never even saw a Vanquish commercial on tv. If they were advertised well, I think we'd have sequels out by now. Advertising is half the game.

This too of course, but does its only half the story. Even with meager advertising these games could have sold well, look at Dead Rising (special case since it was a flavour of the month 360 game), if they appealed to people.

Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
my GOTY breakdown for this gen:

2005 - Condemned
2006 - Oblivion
2007 - Crackdown
2008 - Fallout 3
2009 - Uncharted 2
2010 - Red Dead Redemption (with special mention for Deadly Premonition)
2011 - Dead Island/Skyrim (tie)
2012 - Borderlands 2
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
Final Fantasy didnt go down the shitter this gen, it's slide started a long time ago on a console far away
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 09:53:47 PM
Final Fantasy didnt go down the shitter this gen, it's slide started a long time ago on a console far away

No matter what you think about VII-IX, X-XII they were all pretty competent.

It took S-E almost 5 years from when the generation started with the release of the xbox 360 to release a new Final Fantasy for current consoles.

Versus is in limbo.

XIV was so bad they had to give it out for FREE for over a year, the original director quit, and they had to make a drastic shift in the game's design.

Type-0 is slated to never be released in English.

All we have are XIII sequels and no one really cares.

So objectively, yes, Final Fantasy has gone down the shitter this gen. What once used to be a system seller for many has been induced to groans, sighs, and mega roll eyes. Don't kid yourself.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
Can someone explain to me the rising costs arguement, if Japanese devs where doing so well last gen how come they cant compete now? Where did the money of these western devs that werent doing so hot come from? How come western devs have these budgets but not Japanese ones?

Oscar said that the japanese market is doing pretty good compared to the west, where is the money going, handhelds?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 09:58:28 PM
I bet they're all pretty nervous about the handheld situation right now
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:00:03 PM
Well, the handheld situation is quite different in Japan compared to say, America.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 10:00:34 PM
But then for them there are two options, either turn completely to Japan and greatly limit their selling potential abroad by making less flashy games for handhelds or try to compete with western devs while ignoring the japanese market. Quite a limbo.

From software seems to be the only one that hit a homerun on both market this gen (im blatantly ignoring anything nintendo for arguements sake)

Jap devs could reach western gamers through ios and android, but aside from SE they seem to snub mobiles in the west for now.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
Well they got it good cause of monhun in japan and re worldwide. But how long will this last?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 20, 2012, 10:04:01 PM
Well, the handheld situation is quite different in Japan compared to say, America.

Is it? I thought phones/iOS were killing handhelds all over

admittedly, i am talking out of my ass and haven't taken the ten seconds to google any information
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 10:06:26 PM
Well 3ds sold more last week in japan only then it did in a whole month in the us. Thats how big the gap has become.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
In America, dedicated handhelds are not doing nearly as well as ios. Meanwhile in Japan, 3ds is doing pretty well for itself considering. In America, it seems that most kids want idevices, whereas in Japan they still like dedicated handhelds such as 3ds.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Isnt Konami and Namco-Bandai pretty strong financially though? I remember thinking so based on a conversation I had ages ago.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:24:49 PM
Um. lol

Konami couldn't pay back a 15 million dollar loan. I have no clue how they're able to afford two Metal Gear Solid hd projects.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:28:46 PM
EDIT: @Himu Their market cap is like 3 and a half billion and they make healthy profits

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-11-konami-enjoys-social-gaming-success-eyes-zynga-partnership (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-11-konami-enjoys-social-gaming-success-eyes-zynga-partnership)

Unless they have a ton of debt I dont know about ???


@Oscar, yeah thats what I thought. And yeah I know SammySEGA are strong, just wish their gaming revenue rivaled their pachinko monies so SEGA wouldnt have to be the lepers begging for just one more hit in the merger/acquisition
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:29:53 PM
Whoops, knew I forgot one.  Namco-Bandai has a pretty good plan for their games division, though it is largely domestically-focused as well.  They are supporting smartphones to a higher extent than some others, though.

Konami is fairly financially strong because their other investments are quite profitable.  Ditto on Bamco, and if we want to talk the company on the whole, Sammy (SEGA).  Nintendo also has a lot of money coming in from their toys and merchandise (particularly Pokemon-related).

One of the reasons these companies are financially strong, though, is that they aren't chucking $20 million projects at the wall to see what will stick.  Outside Capcom, of course, haha.

why were konami unable to pay back the loan?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:33:45 PM
Ohhhhh. So is Konami getting their profits from patchinko? Because that's the only thing I can think aside from PES that will net them a profit. MGS4 was over 4 years ago after all.

If they've got the money, why don't they make a new (GOOD) Suikoden? Or a Castlevania? Sheer laziness?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Ohhhhh. So is Konami getting their profits from patchinko? Because that's the only thing I can think aside from PES that will net them a profit. MGS4 was over 4 years ago after all.
No SEGA is getting their monies from pachinko. Konami is gut deep in GREE and other stuff, pachinko is small for them compared to Sammy.


Quote
For a bit of perspective, Konami's business breaks down (by contribution to net revenue) into Digital Entertainment (53 per cent), Health & Fitness (31 per cent), Gaming & Systems (nine per cent) and Pachinko & Pachinko Slot Machines (seven per cent).[/size]
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:35:52 PM
Fitness...centres?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:38:42 PM
Fitness...centres?
Sony makes more money selling insurance than on gaming too :teehee
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:39:40 PM
Lords of Shadow? Never heard of it. Wasn't the last CV Order of Ecclesia? Or Harmony of Despair? Have there been new CV's since that game?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 10:42:19 PM
Pretty sad considering 10 years ago when ps2 was in its wake, everyone thought gaming would be even bigger.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 10:46:07 PM
Pro Evolution Soccer showed up on the Steam Registry.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:46:28 PM
Yeah, gaming's a pretty risky market to be in these days, especially console development.  Fitness Centres, though.  Everyone needs exercise!  And insurance is a good bet, too.  And pachinko.  Gaming, though?  The risks have never been bigger, and the expected reward has never been worse.
Looking at that breakdown I didnt realize that so much of Konami's money comes from "Digital Entertainment". I expect that of Scamco with their name being plasted over so many animes and stuff but not Konami at all.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 10:48:43 PM
Focus on handhelds(3DS) in Japan,smartphones in the West.That could work nicely for Japanese companies.

Just bring some quality and reasonably priced content.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:51:41 PM
Focus on handhelds(3DS) in Japan,smartphones in the West.That could work nicely for Japanese companies.

Just bring some quality and reasonably priced content.
Unless it's like Katamari, Ace Attorneys or something, Japanese games (at least the ones I want to play) would be impossible to play on smartphones. Unless google/apple makes a big deal about joypad support or something.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
They should make new turn based stuff then :heartbeat

Games like Lost Odyssey could be easily played on a smartphone.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 10:56:34 PM
If smartphones is what it takes to get TB systems back, I'll take it



I dunno Momo, you were kind of moaning about FF5 being on iOS yesterday, and RPGs are certainly fine on touchscreens.
FF5 is my fav FF and i dont have an iOS device hence my moan, dont really have an issue with mobile platforms apart from that it cant cater for Shmups, Platformers and such. I'm fine playing ace attorney, nobi nobi boy and such thing on mobile.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 11:01:10 PM
Edited in an explanation =P

I mean I don't hate it, spend ages playing Kairosoft games, Management games, and some of Square Enix's card games and VNs on my phone/tablet. I'd just be dismayed if Japan focuses entirely on it because I would lose a ton of genres that japan does very uniquely



I hope you recover from your Andrexocity with regards to smartphone gaming, Momo. 
Oh come on, smartphones arent gaming consoles. I cant very well carry two around :lol
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 11:08:09 PM
I'm not going to lie. I really can't see myself playing on my phone, nor do I really want to play on handhelds. I like to sit on my couch and play my games on my tv. When I'm not near my tv I rather do stuff other then playing video games. I mean when I'm sitting down to play on my consoles that's my designated gaming time and thats how I like to set my routine.

To see and hear that is were Japanese gaming is going, is disheartening.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 11:17:48 PM
I'm not going to lie. I really can't see myself playing on my phone, nor do I really want to play on handhelds. I like to sit on my couch and play my games on my tv. When I'm not near my tv I rather do stuff other then playing video games. I mean when I'm sitting down to play on my consoles that's my designated gaming time and thats how I like to set my routine.

To see and hear that is were Japanese gaming is going, is disheartening.

Well then, you're going to have to make do with the trickle that comes along.  Go back and play some classics perhaps?  You may want to get a girlfriend or something to fill in the rest of the time.
pssh girlfriends. This is why I got back into comics, because I can afford them with there being so little games I want to buy.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 20, 2012, 11:18:33 PM
World Of Warcraft
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 11:27:12 PM
My favorite games of the generation. These are the games I spent that I enjoyed the most and ones I would suggest.

Console and PC

Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Saints Row 1-3
FIFA Street
Batman: Arkham Aslyum and City
Dead Rising
Dragon Age Origins (pc)
The Sims 3
Resident Evil 5
Skyrim
Mass Effect 1 and 2
Red Dead Redemption
Modern Warfare 2
Portal 1 and 2
Team Fortress 2
Diablo 3
World of Warcraft
Left 4 Dead 2
Blue Dragon
Lost Oddsey
Tales of Vesperia
Folklore
Deadly Premonition
Uncharted 2
Bayonetta
Catherine
Dynasty Warriors 7
Warriors Orochi  2 and 3
Samurai Warriors 2 XL and Empires
Dynasty Warriors Gundam 1 and 3
Super Street Fighter IV
Marvel vs Capcom 3
Virtua Fighter 5
WWE All Stars
Half Life 2 Episodes
Ninja Gaiden 2

Handheld

Crush
PQ2: Practical Quotient 2
Trace Memory
SMT Devil Surviror
Retro Game Challenge
Lumines
Meteos
Rhythm Heaven
Metal Gear Acid
Ridge Racer
Dragon Ball Origins 1 and 2
Dragon Quest IX
Dragon Quest remakes
Lunar Knights
Elite Beat Agents
Ouendan
Tactics Ogre: LUCT
Ace Attorney 1-3
Final Fantasy IV ds
Final Fantasy Tactics A2
Mystery Dungeon Shiren
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Guitar Hero: On Tour
Etrian Odyssey
Ghost Trick
SMT: Strange Journey
GTA: Chinatown Wars
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep
Brain Age
Animal Crossing ds
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Kirby Canvas Curse
Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles
Mega Man ZX
Ys 3: Felghana
Patapon
Mega Man Powered Up
Time Hollow
Contra 4
Henry Hatsworth
Monster Tale
Bangai-O Spirits
Space Invaders Extreme
Infinite Space


DD:

Bionic Commando: Rearmed
Daytona USA xbla
Hydro Thunder: Hurricane
Hard Corps: Uprising
Mega Man 9 and 10
Outrun Online
Xplosion Man
Super Meat Boy
Pinball Arcade
Pacman CE DX

Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 20, 2012, 11:32:48 PM
oh oh i want to make a list

a collection of the best games of the generation:

Burnout Paradise
Rock Band
Fallout 3
Left 4 Dead 2
Batman: AA
Half Life 2: Episode 2
Bioshock
Mass Effect 2
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Red Dead Redemption
Skyrin
The Witcher 2
Dark Souls
The Walking Dead

Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 11:34:50 PM
Dude, shmups are glorious on smartphones.  2D platformers aren't too bad, either.  3D platformers and action games are a major weak point, though, and I'm not sure if touch is ever going to get around that.
I cant see bullet hell games and faster 2D platformers to be anything but frustrating on a phone. Which ones have you played? I may try them.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 20, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
Cave is on smartphones? :o Thought they dug themselves in with Xbox. I'll try some cave stuff and League of Evil
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 11:52:11 PM
Cave is on smartphones?

lol
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 11:59:18 PM
I like lists so I'll make one of what I think are the best of this gen(so far, it isn't quite over)

Dead or Alive 4/5-What can I say? I enjoy these games. They are fast and easy to pick up and I enjoy the visuals.
Vanquish-The gameplay is just so fast and quick and focused and you being quick in your kill. It just adds up to some very fun gameplay and the aesthetic is just cool to me.
The Witcher 2-Fantastic art design in a gritty world that feels actually mature. Hack and slash gameplay the feels like it requires thought and preparation. Just a good adventure, kind a weakens in the 3rd act though.
Asura's Wrath-I really enjoyed the story and the visuals are just what I like about Japan. Dosen't hurt that if features some awesome over the top moments.
No More Heroes 1-1st I like the routine structure of the 1st one. 2nd, I just like the personalty on display here.
Mortal Kombat-Just a hugely stupid and entertaining single player.
Yakuza 4-It's Yakuza, it's fun. Some very likable new protags here.
Uncharted 2-It's just a fun cinematic adventure game.
Valkyria Chronicles-Probably the most "new" game I played this gen.
Resonance of Fate-It just tickled my tinker stat itch. No jrpg this gen came close to that.
Final Fantasy XIII-Whatever, I don't care about the hate. Amazing imaginative visuals that remind me why I like games. Cool battle system. And a story with some cool ideas.
The Last Story- Just a good jrpg.
Inafmous 2-Way better then the crap 1st one.
Battlefield 3-Not the best game ever, but hey it's probably the only real online fps I've enjoyed this gen.
Ace Combat 6-The stage with Liberation of Gracemaria playing is one of the most epic levels I've played this gen.
Ys 7-Some of the best action combat out there.

Some other games:
Grand Theft Auto Gay Tony
Red Dead Redemption
Alice Madness Returns
Quake 4
Mirror's Edge
Halo Reach-SP only
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Gundam Extreme Vs

Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: maxy on December 21, 2012, 12:06:09 AM
Cave is on smartphones? :o Thought they dug themselves in with Xbox. I'll try some cave stuff and League of Evil

Western smartphone market is truly an untapped goldmine.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Raban on December 21, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
Cave is on smartphones? :o Thought they dug themselves in with Xbox. I'll try some cave stuff and League of Evil

This is like watching a baby learn to walk.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 21, 2012, 12:13:01 AM
Yeah i'm really going to be searching or paying attention to shumps on smartphone given the options I hold, jeez.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Robo on December 21, 2012, 12:20:32 AM
I like Wrath's list, so I'm going with that.  *daps*

(Didn't particularly care for Darksiders, though.)
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: tiesto on December 21, 2012, 01:56:24 AM
I don't really like playing games on smartphones, the virtual dpads especially seem "off" to me. Graphic adventures are fine I guess, or the Kairosoft games as shallow as they are, but I dunno... tried downloading a DQ clone called Gailardia and it just didn't do it for me, hated the control. I prefer tactile feel.

I definitely prefer the Japanese market focusing internally instead of trying to make what the west likes and then failing at it... the only problem is that means there's a good chance western releases will be overlooked...
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Trent Dole on December 21, 2012, 01:59:03 AM
Yeah i'm really going to be searching or paying attention to shumps on smartphone given the options I hold, jeez.
Yeah, Cave is all up on smartphones big time. Makes me almost wish I had one.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2012, 04:32:47 AM
I hope you recover from your Andrexocity with regards to smartphone gaming, Momo.

Why is this a thing. :'(

Dude, shmups are glorious on smartphones.  2D platformers aren't too bad, either.

Lol, we have different definitions of "not too bad."

The only ones that are slightly-bearable are the auto-running ones, and lord help us if that's all 2D platforming amounts to.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2012, 04:43:36 AM
Flash version was OK I guess. Couldn't imagine it would be any good on a touchscreen, though.

Unless we're talking about different things.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 21, 2012, 04:59:15 AM
Controls on phones ia just something you have to get used to I guess, but for many genres it works amazingly. Id say FF4 is better on a touchscreen for most part then with a pad, going through menus or tapping on enemies feels right.

3D games will forever be an issue i think unless devs come up with new ways of controls. What you do see on mobiles is new ways of playing, runners like Rayman Jungle Run are really amazing, if it was Nintendo they would release that shit for 40 bucks on DS.

What ios needs is a tv docking station and pad support. Now that would be amazing for a home entertainment centre even. Just plug in a new touch/phone every 2/3 years, control it via your ipad/phone to watch movies on the big screen or use a pad to play games.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2012, 05:07:14 AM
If anyone has Android 2D platformer suggestions I'd love to try some good ones out. All my blind picks haven't been very good, except for Wind Up Knight which I really liked.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 21, 2012, 05:22:09 AM
Is Rayman Jungle Run on Android?

Serious question: why hasnt Sega made Sonic a runner? That would be instant top of the charts and exactly what Sonic is about.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Apparently yes. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pastagames.ro1mobile&hl=en)

Guess I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RYiJt.png)

Bought~
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2012, 10:44:04 AM
have fun with parts where you're escaping never ending gunfire and can die from two gunshots.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 21, 2012, 10:50:04 AM
I dont remember those parts.

Have fun Andrex. Play with mouse and keyboard! And a headset.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2012, 10:55:52 AM
I dont remember those parts.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnqEN4jVUmA
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 21, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
Isnt that like the last bit almost?
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 21, 2012, 11:02:18 AM
The best thing about Mirror's Edge is coming back months later [after you've already beaten it] and playing through it again as fast as you can with all that built in knowledge of what you're supposed to do.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2012, 11:02:22 AM
nope

The best thing about Mirror's Edge is coming back months later [after you've already beaten it] and playing through it again as fast as you can with all that built in knowledge of what you're supposed to do.

Yep. later runs are great. first run is wtf.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 21, 2012, 11:09:03 AM
Just getting into the flow and trying to beat your times or finding a new route <3
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Momo on December 21, 2012, 11:31:42 AM
Yeah I just bought Mirrors Edge and Monkey Island.

Andrex's first steam pruchase :o
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2012, 11:32:58 AM
That is not andrex's first steam purchase.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Andrex's first steam pruchase :o

This is funny considering my other thread. :P

But I started buying Steam games about a year and a half ago. I mean there wasn't really a reason not to; games were cheap, I already owned the hardware for it, and most importantly it had games I wanted to play.
Title: Re: Game of the generation
Post by: iconoclast on December 22, 2012, 08:01:27 PM
Cave is on smartphones? :o Thought they dug themselves in with Xbox. I'll try some cave stuff and League of Evil

http://www.cave-world.com/en/sp/winter-sale/

I wish Cave would port Dodonpachi Maximum to the Vita so I could play it. :(