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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Himu on December 22, 2012, 09:42:30 PM
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Don't expect legendary film maker Spike Lee to catch Quentin Tarantino's latest creation. While his own visions of race and culture have sparked dialogue beyond the New York most of his work pays homage to the plight of race and blacks in america. The director of "Red Hook Summer" had little to say about the slavery love story "Django Unchained."
"I cant speak on it 'cause I'm not gonna see it," he tells VIBETV. "All I'm going to say is that it's disrespectful to my ancestors. That's just me...I'm not speaking on behalf of anybody else."
SOURCE: VIBE.COM
how in the fuck is this film, a movie about a freed slave KILLING WHITE PEOPLE to save his wife, disrespectful to ancestors? (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/dwill.png)
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I've been on Spike's side multiple times over the years, mainly in relation to him shitting on Tyler Perry. But I can't defend him here, this is ridiculous. Django is a fucking blaxpoitation film about slavery, of course it's over the top. It's about a slave killing white people...and it's going to make a butt load of money. How is that a bad thing? :lol
He needs to see it before popping off. Also, QT is well respected by most black people in Hollywood. The only person I know doesn't like him is Denzel
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Django Unchained is fueled by so much white guilt that I will never watch it. If you're white and you laugh or cheer at that shit you need to take a shower and evaluate your life.
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Denzel don't like QT because QT uses black folks in his films that aren't Denzel
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I'm going to see it day one. I always watch QT movies in the theater even though I'm not a big fan of his stuff.
Django Unchained is fueled by so much white guilt that I will never watch it. If you're white and you laugh or cheer at that shit you need to take a shower and evaluate your life.
I don't quite get that vibe.
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It's well documented that Lee hates Tarantino, goes all the way back to Jackie Brown.
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Actually, I think it goes as far back as Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction and the use of the word distinguished black fellow.
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It's well documented that Lee hates Tarantino, goes all the way back to Jackie Brown.
drop some knowledge for a nicca GR, what's this about
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It's well documented that Lee hates Tarantino, goes all the way back to Jackie Brown.
drop some knowledge for a nicca GR, what's this about
http://thegrio.com/2012/06/14/spike-lee-quentin-tarantino-jackie-brown-n-word-battle-revisted-15-years-later/
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It's well documented that Lee hates Tarantino, goes all the way back to Jackie Brown.
drop some knowledge for a nicca GR, what's this about
You serious? (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/dwill.png)
This is from Pulp Fiction's script:
"Am I a nig.ger? Are you in Inglewood? No. You're in my house. White people who know the difference between good shit and bad shit, this is the house they come to. My shit, I'll take the Pepsi Challenge with Amsterdam shit any ol' day of the fuckin' week."
Of course Spike got a problem with QT.
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Django Unchained is fueled by so much white guilt that I will never watch it. If you're white and you laugh or cheer at that shit you need to take a shower and evaluate your life.
i hate it when i click "show post" without thinking
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Makes no sense. Lee is a smart guy and should admit black people say the n-word just as much if not more than what is displayed in QT films. And I'd imagine many white people use the word too, ironically or racially around other whites.
Was Spike Lee all in Chappelle's ass for his use of the word?
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Well, Chappelle used nicca not full er version like Quentin.
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Chappelle used the full er plenty of times dude....
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Django Unchained is fueled by so much white guilt that I will never watch it. If you're white and you laugh or cheer at that shit you need to take a shower and evaluate your life.
i hate it when i click "show post" without thinking
Nobody cares who you have on ignore, taco.
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On Chappelle Show? Well, still, that quote is straight out of Quentin's character in PF. Spike doesn't like films where white people have free reign to use the word and Quentin makes film that reflect culture in a way, so he doesn't give a fuck about the use of the word. To Spike, it's racist to hear a white person use the word. To anyone with a functioning brain watching, it's Quentin's portrayal of people as well as the times because the man clearly isn't racist. But Spike considers any use of the word by white folks to be racist. That's how up his butt he is.
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I hate white guilt and even I cringed when QT said dead distinguished black fellow storage. He thought he was cool enough to get away with it, and unfortunately he did.
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Never liked this Lee fellow, why he have a chinaman last name if he is black? (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/dwill.png)
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Never liked this Lee fellow, why he have a chinaman last name if he is black? (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/dwill.png)
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QT bills himself as writing dialogue based on how people actually talk. It doesn't work all the time (Death Note) but when it works, it's perfect. Given Lee's views on white structural racism, you'd think he'd agree with QT's use of the word and argue it was realistic.
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Death Proof, dawg.
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I was reading some OhNoTheyDidnt news post on this move and more than a few of the black people there are wary of this movie. Now this is ONTD so remember the normal poster there would put even the worst of GAF's PC brigade to shame, but the main reasons were:
1. QT past use of the nword (for a lot of people there, white people should not use the word at all, no context is excusable) and the buzz regarding how many times its used in this movie.
2. paraphrasing "yet another movie about slaver/black empowerment made by a white person" and similar kinds of statements
Personally, I'll wait to see the movie before having any opinions either way. I usually like QT movies and I haven't heard anything so far that would lead me to believe that this is a racist movie (or even.....problematic).
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QT bills himself as writing dialogue based on how people actually talk. It doesn't work all the time (Death Note) but when it works, it's perfect. Given Lee's views on white structural racism, you'd think he'd agree with QT's use of the word and argue it was realistic.
Spike Lee can be a stubborn fuck.
To be fair I don't remember Death Proof having nicca or anything. He hasn't had that in his films in a while. Fuck I want to go on a QT film binge RIGHT NOW.
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Watching dat Jackie Brown 8)
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yo dawgs. rank ur fav QT movies let me start:
Reservoir Dogs
Inglourious Basterds
Pulp Fiction
Death Proof
Kill Bill vol2
Kill Bill vol1
havent seen Jackie Brown.
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Inglorious Basterds
Pulp Fuction
Jackie Brown
Death Proof
Vol 2
Reservoir Dogs
Vol 1
Jackie Brown is a top Tarantino film is on netflix streaming.
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I think second half is better and ends on a high note.
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QT bills himself as writing dialogue based on how people actually talk. It doesn't work all the time (Death Note) but when it works, it's perfect. Given Lee's views on white structural racism, you'd think he'd agree with QT's use of the word and argue it was realistic.
Spike Lee can be a stubborn fuck.
To be fair I don't remember Death Proof having nicca or anything. He hasn't had that in his films in a while. Fuck I want to go on a QT film binge RIGHT NOW.
No I was saying Death Note's dialogue, while interesting, was a bit "much" imo. Almost Sorkin levels of unrealistic flourishes. Whereas I've heard people talk like other QT films all my life.
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How can he have a problem with this when he made bamboozled? At least django looks to be quite entertaining
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The second half a badass car chase.
But yes, Jungle Julia. :heartbeat
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The second half has Rosario Dawson, Zoe Bell's amazing stuntwork, one of the best car chase sequences in the last decade, an amazing follow through on the setup of Stuntman Mike's character from the first act, and DAT CURB STOMP.
I love both halves of Death Proof. Damn now I want to watch it. Amazing movie.
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Bamboozled is a horrible film. If you want to witness a good parody of coonery, go buy The Minstrel Show by Little Brother
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How can he have a problem with this when he made bamboozled? At least django looks to be quite entertaining
Djano Unchained is done by a white person aka he's a racist fuck
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The second half has Rosario Dawson, Zoe Bell's amazing stuntwork, one of the best car chase sequences in the last decade, an amazing follow through on the setup of Stuntman Mike's character from the first act, and DAT CURB STOMP.
I love both halves of Death Proof. Damn now I want to watch it. Amazing movie.
:bow
Dat stunt work. Fucking owns.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHpehxksVLA
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This is gonna be the best blaxploitation western since
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This is gonna be the best blaxploitation western since
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ancestors help
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Oh shit, we ranking QT flicks up in hurr?
1. Inglorious Basterds
2a. Pulp Fiction
2b. Jackie Brown
2c. Reservoir Dogs
3. Death Proof
4. KB 1
5. KB 2
I fully expect to enjoy Django Unchained, guess that makes me DAS RACIST
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True Romance
Pulp Fiction before everyone and their fucking mother started quoting it all the time
Reservoir Dogs
Jackie Brown
Everything else
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and yes, I know he only wrote true romance
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Fred Williamson said it's not racist because the only people that use the n-word in the movie are the bad guys that he's about to shoot.
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whenever someone says True Romance I think of xylophones
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After watching the ending of true romance, I love the shootout at the end of the first season of frisky dingo even more
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y'all must have thought it was white boy day
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Fred Williamson said it's not racist because the only people that use the n-word in the movie are the bad guys that he's about to shoot.
ahahaha are you serious :rofl MOVIE OF THE YEAR
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Doing a chronological QT marathon starting monday(after watching Die Hard of course)
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Every time I watch Jackie Brown I think it's his best film. I'm just so torn between it and Inglorious Basterds.
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First time I watched Jackie Brown, my stomach was in a knot and I was nervous for near the entire film, from an hour in till the ending credits. Movie fucking owns.
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Too long imo, but it's a good movie. I'll need to watch it again because I've forgotten so much of it
I'm pretty much in the Inglorious Basterds>Pulp Fiction camp but as with Jackie Brown, I haven't seen Pulp Fiction in ages. IB feels like it's broken down into 4-5 big acts, and most of them are stunning. Especially the first scene, and the bar scene.
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Uses delfonics too much
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These emoticons are hilarious, guys. Keep it up.
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i used to enjoy QTs schtick, but now i just feel like i'm reading a timedog post. dripping with insecurity and oversaturated with diabetic attempts at colour in lieu of any meaningful content.
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i used to enjoy QTs schtick, but now i just feel like i'm reading a timedog post. dripping with insecurity and oversaturated with diabetic attempts at colour in lieu of any meaningful content.
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u mad bro?
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i used to enjoy QTs schtick, but now i just feel like i'm reading a timedog post. dripping with insecurity and oversaturated with diabetic attempts at colour in lieu of any meaningful content.
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u mad bro?
by colour, i didn't mean black people. i'm fine with black people. just this afternoon i was getting cash out at a ATM and there was a black guy behind me and i made only the most casual effort to shield my pin.
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Fuck no. But it does play Didn't I Do. It Baby on like 5 occasions. The Delfonics have more songs than that QT.
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Jackie Brown
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Inglorious Basterds
Vol 1
Vol 2
Death Proof.
Death Proof is insanely overrated. For people who think Tarantino strokes his own dick to his dialogue, it gave them all the ammo they needed.
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Death Proof is not overrated at all. The film was controversial among critics and even QT fans upon its release and even now. People who love DP are not the norm, so how is it overrated?
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Yeah, Death Proof was terrible, but he redeemed himself with IB. God-tier movie, and Django looks like it will continue the trend.
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See? Two posters in a row who think DP is shit. DP is love it or hate it. It is far from overrated.
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Oh shit, we ranking QT flicks up in hurr?
1. Inglorious Basterds
2a. Pulp Fiction
2b. Jackie Brown
2c. Reservoir Dogs
3. Death Proof
4. KB 1
5. KB 2
I fully expect to enjoy Django Unchained, guess that makes me DAS RACIST
I agree with this ranking
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yeah COG has my rankings as well.
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Volume 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volume 1
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I guess it depends on what you get out of the KB movies... for me, they're pretty bad movies, but the fight scenes are enjoyable, and the fights in 1 >>>> the fights in 2. Most people I know prefer 2 to 1.
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I really liked Death Proof - but I only caught it randomly on TV once and didn't even mean to watch the whole thing. Loved the crash scene
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Volume 2 tells a better story I think. The burial, the trailer fight, training with Pai Mei, final confrontation with Bill. Has better action I think, too, because it's mostly environmental (trailer park fight) or has story repercussions (Bill fight, trying to get the jump on Bud). for that reason, the fighting in 2 is more impactful, whereas the fights in 1 like the teahouse fight are 30 minute long fights without a drop of tension.
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dunno why triumph thinks they're bad movies. they're the perfect ode to chinese wuxia crossed with a western. owns.
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Pulp Fiction
Inglorious Basterds
Jackie Brown
Reservoir Dogs
Death Proof
Kill Bill Vol.2
Kill Bill Vol.1
The first 3 are god tier, three after that are close to that, while the first Kill Bill is good but overrated.
WTF, get out of my head.
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the best thing about QT is that he's a Wu head and recognizes Ghostface is the best rapper alive :bow
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sukiyaki western django > *
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Death Proof niccas please stand up, please stand up.
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I really need to see Jackie Brown... and re-watch Reservoir Dogs while we're at it. Pulp Fiction, KB1 and True Romance (yeah I know he only wrote it) are at the tops of my list...
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Fred Williamson said it's not racist because the only people that use the n-word in the movie are the bad guys that he's about to shoot.
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Fred Williamson said it's not racist because the only people that use the n-word in the movie are the bad guys that he's about to shoot.
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Fred Williamson wrote and produced that movie, by the way.
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Celebs are a a bunch of tards disconnected from reality, yep yep.
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Death Proof hate up in here? Fuck you, guys.
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Death Proof hate up in here? Fuck you, guys.
That is because Death Proof sucks. Meanwhile, just saw Django Unchained and it was fucking great.
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Death Proof hate up in here? Fuck you, guys.
That is because Death Proof sucks. Meanwhile, just saw Django Unchained and it was fucking great.
YOUR FACE SUCKS
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I think I said this in the movie thread but Django was fucking amazing. Quentin Tarantino did the impossible: he made Jamie Foxx tolerable. That alone speaks volumes about the quality of the movie.
Also Don Johnson :heartbeat
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Don Johnson was so awesome in Eastbound and Down