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Title: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 05:16:51 PM
I looked for perturbator but hes not on it. There seems to be some hiphop though.

Whats the advantage over stuff like grooveshark?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 05:23:21 PM
100000x yes. It's soooo fucking worth it, especialy the mobile app. Just type what you want and bam its there.  And you can lead the discographies of the bands they dont have on it also. I dont use any other service because I like having a base app whem in on my home pc instead of a web interface. That's the only downside of Spotify, there isn't really a "web app" but the executable and mobile apps are great (atleast on iphone)
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 05:25:11 PM
Yeah I got the iphone app.

How broad is the collection?

How does the offline stuff work?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: headwalk on January 10, 2013, 05:28:27 PM
perturbator are all about bandcamp.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on January 10, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
I've been using Spotify for many years and I like it. There is still plenty of music missing, but it's perfect for listening at work.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
Yeah I got the iphone app.

How broad is the collection?

How does the offline stuff work?

you basically make playlists, then select "Offline Mode" and it downloads them and you can play them whenever.  The US connection seems pretty broad, just none of the obvious (although they added Metalica a month ago) and the sorting is kinda bad
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 10, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
spotify is absolutely the one service I have no problems paying for each month.  I use it all the fucking time, all day at work.  It has most everything I want to listen to.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Vertigo on January 10, 2013, 05:50:39 PM
I also pay for the monthly service.

It's actually stopped me pirating music,I love the offline feature which means I can have all my playlists with me.

Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Positive Touch on January 10, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
so from what i understand the service is basically like paying a monthly fee to have someone pirate all your music for you?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2013, 06:10:42 PM
so from what i understand the service is basically like paying a monthly fee to have someone pirate all your music for you?

No you can listen to spotify for free on your comp. But if you want access to albums and shit anywhere in the form of spotify premium you have to pay. It is like netflix. A legal alternative to getting awesome content. You pay and get instant access to thousands of classic albums and many NEW albums on release.

Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 06:12:44 PM
you only get 128kbps MP3s with Free, and ads. If you pay you get unlimited streaming no ads and 320 kbps. You also get to use the mobile app. It's worth it. I just rationale it by the fact that I used to buy a CD or a record a month for the same price it costs.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 10, 2013, 06:13:24 PM
absolutely worth it

use it all day errday

haven't launched iTunes in months
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 06:13:29 PM
How do i convert things i liked on the radio to a new playlist?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 10, 2013, 06:23:34 PM
I usually just right click the album art and add it to a new playlist.  I think that should work.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 06:28:13 PM
How do i convert things i liked on the radio to a new playlist?

Using the star function works best imho
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2013, 06:42:01 PM
I haven't used itunes in a year because of spotify.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Positive Touch on January 10, 2013, 06:57:53 PM
getting an android and realizing that i can finally go back to the old drag-n-drop method for mp3s was like being born again
Title: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
Absolutely worth it. Can't remember the last time I see iTunes or pirated music.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: chronovore on January 10, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
I used it a lot in the USA, but am unable to access it from Japan. I could pay for premium, but the 12,000 songs in my iTunes library is preventing me from giving a fuck.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 07:52:13 PM
I use it in Japan. You should have signed up for the Premium service while you were there, Chrono. If you'd installed the app on the machine you use here, you'd be able to use it fine. Then you can keep the subscription active with gift cards from the US
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
If you want to use it now, sign up for a free vpn, install the app (including the godly mobile ones) and have someone in the US send you a gift code.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 07:55:38 PM
a good vpn is unblock-us but I don't know if that will force you to using europes Spotify (which is a bit better anyways than the US one). theres a free trial, try it out
Title: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
Aye. I signed up for a premium account back in the US and didn't run into any problems streaming and saving-for-offline-play (phone & iPad) during my visit home.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2013, 08:36:38 PM
Haven't pirated music in a year
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 10, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
does Japanese Spotify have J-artists?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
there is no Japanese spotify - best bet is Sony's service(s) (which are a confusing mess according to a mutual friend of ours who works with them)
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Reb on January 11, 2013, 04:04:30 AM
I pay monthly, it is godly combined with my Sonos Play:5.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on January 11, 2013, 04:29:26 AM
I only listen to two Japanese bands and they're both on Spotify although some albums are missing.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: chronovore on January 11, 2013, 05:06:37 AM
If you want to use it now, sign up for a free vpn, install the app (including the godly mobile ones) and have someone in the US send you a gift code.

Yeah, I'm signed up, but the app is telling me something about my locale not matching my listed one. I guess I'll have to solve it; I am made of free time right now, so why not?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 07:50:12 AM
I haven't bought a song in YEARS. I think maybe since high school or something. Or University.

That said I havent pirated music in years either.

But this has me thinking that it could be so hassle free I might pay for it.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Rman on January 11, 2013, 09:16:42 AM
there is no Japanese spotify - best bet is Sony's service(s) (which are a confusing mess according to a mutual friend of ours who works with them)
Par for the course with Sony it seems.

I love these services.  I don't use Spotify, but another service.  I'm done owning music.  With this, Netflix and the occasional Amazon/iTunes rental, no more plastic discs cluttering up the place.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 09:21:02 AM
Could you have 2 people on 1 spotify account?

there is no Japanese spotify - best bet is Sony's service(s) (which are a confusing mess according to a mutual friend of ours who works with them)
Par for the course with Sony it seems.

I love these services.  I don't use Spotify, but another service.  I'm done owning music.  With this, Netflix and the occasional Amazon/iTunes rental, no more plastic discs cluttering up the place.

PSN+ soon :drool

future is subscribtion based entertainment.

If youre done with it you unsubcribe.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: pilonv1 on January 11, 2013, 08:41:44 PM
I would sign up if they didn't make me use Facebook login
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 11, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
you dont have to  ???
Title: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Huff on January 11, 2013, 08:56:30 PM
It used to require facebook integration which is why I've never signed up. Now that it doesn't I'm going to give it a shot
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 09:03:46 PM
I love the facebook integration for what it's worth. It's nice and easy to share songs and playlists to firends etc. Also being able to see what firends are listening to is cool.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Robo on January 11, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
I only wish they'd fix some of the local library functionality on the desktop application so I could use it as my singular player.  Having to switch between applications because the player is overriding my tags, tagging songs incorrectly and sorting them out of order is incredibly obnoxious.  Until that happens, I won't pay for it.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 11, 2013, 10:41:26 PM
I only use the free desktop version, don't mind the ads, get a lot of enjoyment out of it. If I were the type to carry around a bunch of music with me I'd probably pay.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on January 12, 2013, 03:57:15 AM
There is a cheap ass premium version that I use that only lets you stream unlimited music from non-mobile devices.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Fifstar on January 12, 2013, 05:48:02 AM
I like it for checking out albums, although I don't feel like paying for something where the artists themselves get barely any proftit.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Barry Egan on January 13, 2013, 12:15:14 PM
It's weird how spotify has almost every radiohead album but you can only get Vitamin String Quartets version of In Rainbows.  Also, almost no Boards of Canada library to speak of.  Fuck this service!

No actually it's pretty cool.  Thanks for the rec Evilbore.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2013, 07:03:44 PM
Hows the offline stuff work? I mainly listen to music at work but I don't want to be streaming stuff all the time and killing our network.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 13, 2013, 07:27:01 PM
i installed it today and it doesnt seem very good at finding new music for me. like i can't search a few tag words to find stuff? maybe i missed something.

is nice to be able to listen to albums from bands i never bothered to pirate.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
no you can't search for tags just artist name / album name / song name/ playlist name

if you want to discover music I reccomend going onto

http://sharemyplaylists.com/
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Barry Egan on January 13, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
i installed it today and it doesnt seem very good at finding new music for me. like i can't search a few tag words to find stuff? maybe i missed something.

yea it seems like you basically need to either go by the "similar artists" category or start paying attention to what other people on your friends list are listening to in order to find new music.  It's not like the AMG database where they classify by genre and mood. 
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 07:36:23 PM
download some of the apps also. I use Filtr, Digster, Pitchfork Soundrop
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 13, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
go by the "similar artists" category or start paying attention to what other people on your friends list are listening to in order to find new music.

nobody i know listens to the same music i like :fbm

so how good is their selection beyond the big names? I mean I can find Pantera, Iced Earth, Opeth, Mastodon, and stuff like that but what if I'm looking for new progressive instrumental heavy metal with jazz influences? seems poor for anything but big known stuff.

or is that the point of the service all together.

Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 13, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
bandcamp seems more suited for my purposes.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 07:40:26 PM
anything on bandcamp / reverb nation usually is auto added to spotify I think
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 13, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
anything on bandcamp / reverb nation usually is auto added to spotify I think

doesnt seem like it. few of the things i've been listening to aren't there. Intervals, Temple, Gru... Widek is there.

And on Widek there's a track where Halcyon is featured but the Halcyon on Spotify isn't the right one lol.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 13, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
You can install apps like Moodagent for that, or use the built in Pandora clone. Use that apps tab, people, it's gold.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 08:14:43 PM
anything on bandcamp / reverb nation usually is auto added to spotify I think

doesnt seem like it. few of the things i've been listening to aren't there. Intervals, Temple, Gru... Widek is there.

And on Widek there's a track where Halcyon is featured but the Halcyon on Spotify isn't the right one lol.

weird. The selection on Spotify can be irratic.

http://thebestoftheworstofspotify.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Barry Egan on January 13, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
seems poor for anything but big known stuff.

or is that the point of the service all together.

I guess it kinda is.  The library seems kind of focused on present stuff, too regardless of how popular it was  in the past.  If they have stuff from the 60s for instance its "best of" additions published in the last few years. 
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2013, 11:16:26 AM
fistful maybe it's just the particular kind of music you listen to.  Mostly underground metal right?  I'm pretty sure I've read that Spotify has always been shit with metal.  I've been able to find pretty much everything from the music blogs I visit (GvB, cokemachineglow, fuck, even eric p's blog).

Although I was always bummed that they never had the Weeknd's shit until the trilogy was released.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 22, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
oh it's most definitely the kind of music i listen to. it seems to be fine for the major bands that everyone knows about but like i mentioned earlier, it seems to be poor unless you specifically know what you're looking for.

then again what I am currently looking for is pretty obscure.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: chronovore on February 06, 2013, 09:38:22 PM
i installed it today and it doesnt seem very good at finding new music for me. like i can't search a few tag words to find stuff? maybe i missed something.

is nice to be able to listen to albums from bands i never bothered to pirate.

Are you using the band's radio station? It seemed similar to Pandora to me, when I was using the service.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on February 07, 2013, 03:06:51 AM
What kind of underground metal? I think related artists and label search e.g. "label:relapse" is a pretty good way of finding new music. Another way is befriending people with similar taste and then occasionally glance at the friend feed.

Pandora had a better search algorithm, but on the other hand their catalog was really limited.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: pilonv1 on February 07, 2013, 04:55:29 AM
Can you add people who you aren't friends with on facebook? I don't think anyone here is my friend on facebook but I'd like to see the music you're all listening to.

Still trying to work out the most efficient way of using this, I feel like I'm doing it wrong
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on February 07, 2013, 05:05:40 AM
Sure, you can use "spotify:user:[username]" from the Spotify client. You can also add people from playlist searches.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: FatalT on February 07, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
I pay for the yearly subscription for Pandora for higher quality streaming and no ads. I use the app on my desktop and the app on my phone in my car as the radio. My sub ends next month though so I'll check out Spotify. I just like how Pandora does the whole genre/artist mix-up stations.
Title: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Huff on February 07, 2013, 05:08:00 PM
Can you add people who you aren't friends with on facebook? I don't think anyone here is my friend on facebook but I'd like to see the music you're all listening to.

Still trying to work out the most efficient way of using this, I feel like I'm doing it wrong

Yeah I added MAF from his 2012 best of play list. I dunno if they see that though

Really glad for this thread. I use spodify all the time now and it got me back into the new music scene, which I've been out of for years
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: naff on February 07, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
I've been paying for Spotify for about 6 months now. Use it a fair bit, but I have no idea how you could give up on iTunes/your physical music collection. In conjunction though I find it very good though it's music coverage oft feels pretty sparse and I turn to piracy/iTunes and if I like something I'll always try and get a better quality file from the interwebs (is the library you see in the EU/Australasia different to the States?).
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 07, 2013, 07:01:25 PM
I've been paying for Spotify for about 6 months now. Use it a fair bit, but I have no idea how you could give up on iTunes/your physical music collection. In conjunction though I find it very good though it's music coverage oft feels pretty sparse and I turn to piracy/iTunes and if I like something I'll always try and get a better quality file from the interwebs (is the library you see in the EU/Australasia different to the States?).

???

At this point, I haven't had a physical music collection for over 10 years.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 07, 2013, 07:10:11 PM
yeah, staggering...i had a huge physical collection but never touch what remains of it. I can't see any reason why playing tracks in Spotify is quantifiably different from playing them in iTunes. I have literally nothing in my iTunes library but podcasts and iOS apps
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: naff on February 07, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
I don't have much of a physical music collection either but my flatmates have a heap of records and I've been starting to invest in decent HiFi gear so I'm definitely keen to expand that. And yeah, I'd say ~half of the artists I look for on Spotify don't show up or have a meagre collection of singles and remixes.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 07, 2013, 07:43:58 PM
oh yeah, they barely have anything, i mean i did a search for Ike Quebec the other day and they only had 41 albums
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 07, 2013, 08:13:50 PM
I have a ton of vinyl (about 200 records) but as far as new music releases I can't REMEMBER the last time something I wanted to listen to wasn't on Spotify ... granted I'm not into super indie hip-hop/black metal/what have you scenes, but for anything with a publisher and most things without it's fine. there are 20 million tracks!
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
honestly i don't give a shit about crossing hipster shit off my list. if i don't find something specific i'm looking for I just listen to something else. 'new' music to me is any music I haven't heard, whether it comes from the 15th century or 1920
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: naff on February 07, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
tldr; yes I pay for Spotify and think it's worth it. I find it sometimes doesn't have stuff I'm looking for, like earlier today I wanted to listen to The Field; pretty popular edm I thought, but no dice unless I want 4 tracks off an album that I don't really like. I think I'll start uploading when I find stuff like this though so eventually most holes will be patched as more people use the service (unless they get shut down).
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 07, 2013, 08:49:38 PM
you can't access tracks people add to their own libraries, unless i am missing something very badly. I can't even access tracks I have added to Spotify on one machine on another machine - they're not in the cloud at all. Has something changed?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on February 08, 2013, 03:05:37 AM
Nope, that's still the case. I have a large collection of mp3s that I can only listen to from home.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 08, 2013, 03:11:30 AM
get a Bitcasa account - i have like 350gb of mp3 up there (which, crazily, i should share with this entire board with a single click)
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on February 08, 2013, 04:02:46 AM
Is it free? I'm a bit of a cheap ass.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 08, 2013, 04:13:19 AM
free up to 10gb which is basically worthless vs Google etc. The 'infinite' feature is pay-only, $50 with code 'BETATHANKS'
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on February 08, 2013, 04:16:10 AM
I already have a Dropbox account with 10 GB which is great for text documents. At that price I'd rather set up a server myself.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 08, 2013, 04:46:45 AM
Knock yourself out
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: pilonv1 on February 09, 2013, 06:26:09 AM
WP8 client for Spotify is out :hyper
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on February 09, 2013, 07:01:24 AM
I hope they release a new client for Windows 8. Their current one is a bit unstable.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: pilonv1 on February 09, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
The WP8 one is a bit buggy. Trying to get some tracks downloaded for offline play and I cant tell if it's working.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 08, 2013, 11:21:38 PM
SO you're supposed to be able to sync local music to your phone through this? Ok so i figure i'll give that a try.

first of all it takes like 5 hours to sync which is dumb.
second you dont hook your device to your pc, you connect it to the same wifi network.
second after it syncs there doesnt appear to be anyway to access that music
like, you have to manually create playlists out of all the music? for it to show up in the app? really?
it doesnt have the ability to parse through the ID3 tags to figure out artist/album/song? like every other music playing app that has ever exists does?
in half the time i just manually dragged and dropped shit to my phones sd card and the built in app magically knows the music and allows me to play it without creating playlists.

what an awful, convoluted, worthless feature.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Reb on May 09, 2013, 06:09:51 AM
What are you doing? Syncing music you already have to the Spotify app?
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 09, 2013, 06:26:22 AM
yeah. you add music to the spotify local client and then use the client to sync it to the mobile app. i figured i would give it a try since keeping everything in one managed app on my phone would be pretty easy.

NOPE
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Reb on May 09, 2013, 06:42:48 AM
Yeah, sounds like a hassle. I don't bother with my local files anymore.
I stream everything and offline sync my favorite playlists.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: pilonv1 on May 09, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
I only use Spotify for music I don't own. It's not very good for your current library.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: archnemesis on May 09, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
It used to be really fast for searching through my local library of mp3s, but it turned shitty a while back.

Edit: I've had issues with MediaMonkey and foobar2000 in the past. Installing MusicBee right now to see if that's better. Apparently, I have 50,000 music files. I should try to trim it down a bit.
Title: Re: Spotify. Worth the money?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
Ive been using and paying for like 2 months now. Found so much new music. Great app and worth the money.