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Title: i want a car
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 04:54:46 PM: i'm in the process of learning to drive and by sometime around the beginning of march i will begin the process of buying a car so can you guys recommend some cars to me please

here's the kind of car i want:

small
good for new drivers
AWD preferably
reliable
good gas mileage
not american

thanks
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2013, 04:56:47 PM: You sure?

(http://candyaddict.com/blog/candy_images/free_candy_van.jpg)
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 16, 2013, 04:57:11 PM: Civic maybe? Think that's what my wife has and it's been around since before we started dating (so more than 10 years).
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Post by: Pringo on February 16, 2013, 05:25:06 PM: Why do you want AWD?
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 05:29:30 PM: to deal with snow.
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Post by: Beezy on February 16, 2013, 05:35:06 PM: There should be a Toyota out there that fits your criteria.
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Post by: Pringo on February 16, 2013, 05:35:40 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
to deal with snow.

Where do you live? AWD isn't really necessary for driving in the snow. A good set of snow tires makes much more of a difference. Also finding a small car with AWD might be kind of difficult.
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 05:40:57 PM: Quote from: Pringo on February 16, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
to deal with snow.

Where do you live? AWD isn't really necessary for driving in the snow. A good set of snow tires makes much more of a difference. Also finding a small car with AWD might be kind of difficult.

buffalo. the roads are very poor in the winter and most people around here would opt for awd if given the option. it's not a deal breaker but i need something that would be good in the winter.
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Post by: Fifstar on February 16, 2013, 06:02:40 PM: Audi A3 quattro?
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 16, 2013, 07:10:29 PM: Get a Subaru. Fo' real.
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Post by: pickle on February 16, 2013, 07:23:32 PM: Are there AWD variants of the Prius? I'm sure you could pick up a second hand one fairly cheep.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 16, 2013, 07:25:14 PM: Quote from: pickle on February 16, 2013, 07:23:32 PM
Are there AWD variants of the Prius? I'm sure you could pick up a second hand one fairly cheep.

Not yet, but Toyota announced one back in November. 2015 model should be AWD.
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Post by: cool breeze on February 16, 2013, 07:33:55 PM: do you have a price range?
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Post by: demi on February 16, 2013, 07:36:55 PM: Stop wasting your money on shitty electronics like Vita and you can get a decent car.
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 07:41:21 PM: Quote from: fryinghigh on February 16, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
do you have a price range?

depends. i will probably be ok with a monthly bill of around 500-600 bucks.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 16, 2013, 07:46:17 PM: This would fit your criteria I think

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w275/AdmiralViscen/72896DE2-1C11-4E0E-AFB5-1EF8611EF984-14622-0000077BC26193CF.jpg)

It's a Prius SS
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 16, 2013, 07:47:31 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on February 16, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
do you have a price range?

depends. i will probably be ok with a monthly bill of around 500-600 bucks.

Do you plan on putting anything down at purchase? Lease?
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Post by: ToxicAdam on February 16, 2013, 07:47:34 PM: Get a Hyundai.
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Post by: Robo on February 16, 2013, 07:55:49 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2013, 04:54:46 PM
not american

you piece of shit
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on February 16, 2013, 09:45:00 PM: Seconding the Subaru and Toyota recos. Get good snow tires, dont have to worry about awd.
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Post by: CrystalGemini on February 17, 2013, 02:04:37 AM: Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 16, 2013, 07:10:29 PM
Get a Subaru. Fo' real.

That's my first choice for my next car too. My criteria are about the same as yours, except the new driver thing. They're known as rally cars though...
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 17, 2013, 09:41:22 AM: one of the cars i was keeping my eye on is a Mini Cooper.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 17, 2013, 10:00:51 AM: So you won't buy a domestic but you will buy one of the lowest quality, most expensive, highest repair cost vehicles in the compact segment?

The Cruze/Focus/Elantra stomp that in every way that will matter to you. I'm sure the Dart does too but it hasn't been out long enough to say quality for sure.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 17, 2013, 10:03:12 AM: i don't know anything about cars. that's why i'm asking.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on February 17, 2013, 12:22:26 PM: (http://i.imgur.com/yqhVRkk.jpg)
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Post by: MCD on February 17, 2013, 12:29:34 PM: Get a Toyota Corolla. Shit is made to last.
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Post by: Shadow Mod on February 17, 2013, 01:57:06 PM: Get a ford. They're built tough.
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 17, 2013, 02:27:11 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 17, 2013, 10:03:12 AM
i don't know anything about cars. that's why i'm asking.

Get the Elantra. It was the best small car two years ago (according to Consumer Reports) and the second best last year. Costs range in the 17-21k. It gets close to 30mpg.

Everything has a 5 year warranty and the powertrain has a 10 year warranty.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/2011_Hyundai_Elantra_Limited_--_01-04-2011.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xmLJNzF_tS8/TpAYbw6_yqI/AAAAAAAABvM/ECv1OKSVmhI/s1600/2012-hyundai-elantra-interior.jpg

Suburu has something called the Impreza which is equally highly rated and comes in AWD, yet still gets good gas mileage. I think it's a little ugly, but everyone has different tastes.

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impreza/index.html
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: tiesto on February 17, 2013, 02:41:02 PM: When I lived up there, I had a 97 Accord and that seemed to do decently in the snow... But yeah I'd second the Subaru recommendations for that kinda weather. I have a 2005 TL (looking to purchase something next year, but definitely "scaling back") and I love it but it's horrible in the snow (as I found out last weekend).

and as for "not American" - it doesn't even matter anymore. Lots of Japanese/Euro car companies do a good deal of manufacturing in the states. Though I felt like I was the only one who lived in Buffalo who owned a Japanese-branded car :P
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Post by: Boogie on February 17, 2013, 06:26:02 PM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on February 17, 2013, 12:22:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yqhVRkk.jpg)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/iamboog/175250_10101400938055982_565737564_o.jpg)
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 17, 2013, 06:28:28 PM: Hell yeah. Im hoping to do another road trip this year. Nothin makes a car more fun than ROAD TRIPPPP
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Post by: Inspector Thatcher on February 17, 2013, 09:46:00 PM: Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 17, 2013, 10:00:51 AM
So you won't buy a domestic but you will buy one of the lowest quality, most expensive, highest repair cost vehicles in the compact segment?

The Cruze/Focus/Elantra stomp that in every way that will matter to you. I'm sure the Dart does too but it hasn't been out long enough to say quality for sure.

Being a frequent renter of vehicles (for work) I can vouch for the Elantra and Cruze - good features, easy to drive, good power and well-tuned. The 2013 Focuses (Foci?) never impressed me much. And, an earlier edition of the Focus did not do so splendidly in Manitoba in January (where I was at the time).

I've also driven the Jetta, which is OK in the snow.

I'm no aficionado, but my impression was that the heavier my car was, the easier it handled the snow, all other things being equal.
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Post by: Mupepe on February 17, 2013, 10:24:59 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 17, 2013, 09:41:22 AM
one of the cars i was keeping my eye on is a Mini Cooper.
I own one. Awful pieces of crap. Stay away. Reconsider American. Fords are great and very reliable.
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: CrystalGemini on February 18, 2013, 01:09:41 AM: Quote from: Mupepe on February 17, 2013, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 17, 2013, 09:41:22 AM
one of the cars i was keeping my eye on is a Mini Cooper.
I own one. Awful pieces of crap. Stay away. Reconsider American. Fords are great and very reliable.

Nope you're wrong. Get outta here.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
My brother is hella trying to convince me to get a mini cooper. :lol
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Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: Mupepe on February 18, 2013, 09:53:35 AM: Noooo. Don't do it, CG. Worst car I've ever owned by far. The interior falls apart by looking at it. I'm missing door handles, the radio volume knob, buttons. The plastic cover around the shifter is gone. It's horrible. It constantly overheats. I have replaced the entire cooling system. It will just break again months later. It's a huge POS.
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Post by: Boogie on February 18, 2013, 10:45:19 AM: A coworker had a Mini and his experience matches Mupepe's.
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Post by: Boogie on February 18, 2013, 10:47:58 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on February 17, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
Hell yeah. Im hoping to do another road trip this year. Nothin makes a car more fun than ROAD TRIPPPP

ROAD TRIPS :bow2

Where was your photo taken, MAF? Wyoming?
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Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2013, 11:01:16 AM: I beliiiiieve it was on the north side of the Columbia river - between WA and Oregon
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 18, 2013, 03:59:21 PM: You don't need AWD while we are at it
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 18, 2013, 05:12:29 PM: fukkin pussy fistful drive like ar eal man in snow storms with AWD nuttin manly ier than getting stuck going up a desolate hill and having to camp on the side of the road

-signed

a jealous brother who wish he could afford a car wit hAWD :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2013, 10:30:39 AM: I owned a 2000 Focus for some years (big ol problem car, but that model year was known for that), owned a 2008 focus for some years and that was really a fantastic car. Nothing really illustrates the difference between ford before 2008 and after like owning a 2000 and 2008 focus. Ford knows what's up these days. My 2012 Mustang GT is WAYYYYYYYY fun and I love the thing, but goddamn if the new Fusion doesn't turn my head.
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: Brehvolution on February 21, 2013, 11:08:49 AM: Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 18, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
You don't need AWD while we are at it
If I lived in Buffalo, I'd want it too.
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Post by: FatalT on February 21, 2013, 03:30:47 PM: I just recently got a 2002 Toyota Corolla that's nice. Insurance is cheaper since it's considered a family car as well. Previously I had a 1992 Acura Integra which was a 2-door car and having 4-doors is a whole lot better to me. ROOM FOR ALL THE NON-EXISTENT PEOPLE I TAKE WITH ME!
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Post by: demi on February 21, 2013, 03:44:08 PM: Jesus will always be your passenger, FatalT.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on February 21, 2013, 04:13:47 PM: Get a new honda civic and be done with it.

It's exactly what you're asking for in the OP.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 21, 2013, 08:15:50 PM: The new Honda Civic sucks shit.

Cruze/Elantra/Mazda3/Focus are the class leaders

If he really wants AWD then it's the Impreza and nothing else.
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Post by: lennedsay on February 21, 2013, 09:50:11 PM: After driving home in 5" of ice, sleet and snow, learn how to drive a stick and get a WRX. Our's held up against the big SUVs and trucks today. And the accident we were in last year busted our headlight but destroyed the front end of the idiot who hit us.

Highways shut down all over the place, morons abandoning their cars in the middle of major roads and highways, complete sleetpocalypse.

The highway to our house was a Mustang graveyard. MUSTANG GRAVEYARD. Five FIVE just sitting in the middle of the highway in a five mile stretch. RIP :usacry
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Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2013, 11:08:46 PM: haha who the fuck even bothers taking their mustang out in those conditions- its a death sentence
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Post by: FatalT on February 22, 2013, 12:18:49 AM: Quote from: demi on February 21, 2013, 03:44:08 PM
Jesus will always be your passenger, FatalT.

Where was he at when I got a DUI? :(
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Post by: Mupepe on February 22, 2013, 08:49:07 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2013, 11:08:46 PM
haha who the fuck even bothers taking their mustang out in those conditions- its a death sentence
for real real. wtf. RWD muscle cars on ice sounds like a great idea! ???
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Post by: demi on February 22, 2013, 08:59:12 AM: Quote from: FatalT on February 22, 2013, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: demi on February 21, 2013, 03:44:08 PM
Jesus will always be your passenger, FatalT.

Where was he at when I got a DUI? :(

"Fuck this guy."
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Post by: FatalT on February 22, 2013, 03:19:00 PM: Quote from: demi on February 22, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: FatalT on February 22, 2013, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: demi on February 21, 2013, 03:44:08 PM
Jesus will always be your passenger, FatalT.

Where was he at when I got a DUI? :(

"Fuck this guy."

:lol SHIT!
Title: Re: i want a car
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 22, 2013, 11:32:47 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on February 22, 2013, 08:49:07 AM
Quote from: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2013, 11:08:46 PM
haha who the fuck even bothers taking their mustang out in those conditions- its a death sentence
for real real. wtf. RWD muscle cars on ice sounds like a great idea! ???

I drove my Mustang GT vert in the big snow storms we had in 09/10 winter. I've driven my 300C RWD since then, every storm, any day.

I drove my old Monte Carlo in similar conditions years ago but I wouldn't subject my new one to it.