THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Cerveza mas fina on February 21, 2013, 07:48:58 AM
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Seems so. Now the gap is like 7 years in tech it seems, instead of 5.
Ninty should axe the WiiU after 4 years max I think and start over.
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It's cute that you think Sony showed something impressive or futuristic.
The machines' reception this holiday should tell you how far ahead of the last generation people feel it is.
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u mad
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he mad
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we're not fucking talking about perception. we're talking about hardware. factual information, not experiential.
This is what I mean.
Ill prob not even play any of the first party games Sony showed cause I don't care about them at all.
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Sony is talking about instantly playing games, streaming services, pre-loading likely purchases, the fastest gaming network around...
And Nintendo just announced an adapter you plug it in your Wii U that lets you play one 3DS game online :rofl
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for $350-399 it's a little impressive, you can't build a PC with those specs for that price
feature-set? yeah, all of that was impressive (although i have very little interest in the social stuff)
games shown? not really, but it won't be the desert wii u is going to be.
if you're a console-only gamer, it was as impressive as it needed to be
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Everyone is such a strong word
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:lol
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Probably in my post-coital slumber
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rarely is the question asked "are our ninthings learning"
mainly because they're incapable
but keep fucking that chicken radiohead, keep fucking that chicken
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Is radioheaddude here a joke character or for super-realz? I've been gone for a while.
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Oh
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hes like a SNESfreak
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we're not fucking talking about perception. we're talking about hardware. factual information, not experiential. if you're not interested in that, gtfo and go park in one of the many other threads here where you CAN talk about whimsy quotient.
You're not though. You're the one talking about some ethereal non-existent thing called 'whimsy', and systems or specs you believe to be counterpoint to it.
In a factual (and unfortunately experiential way for everyone else) - you and this fagshitting thundercunt are talking utter nonsense.
Even if we're talking GFLOPS/TFLOPS, raw processing power, as a standard for a given year - he's still factually wrong and making a facetious, deliberately unintelligent comparison. Lets not pretend there's actual discussion to be had outside of labelling each other ninthings and Premium distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
Tell me PL, are you called Premium Lager because that's what your mother drank to leave you with brain damage, fetal alcohol syndrome and the kind of creative and imaginative palsy required to be in any way entertained by last nights PS4 showing?
In light of yesterdays uninspiring show, Joe Public ain't gonna be buying into this thing any more than its buying into the Wii U. MS are on target for a flawless victory and they haven't even shown anything!
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I smell poultry dick in this thread, but it ain't mine!
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i wish "didnt read" gifs were still funny because they need to be automatically inserted after each radioheadrule post
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Now Oscar believes in IQ.
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lulz, meltdowns still happen!
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i wish "didnt read" gifs were still funny because they need to be automatically inserted after each radioheadrule post
This hurts me in the feels. I put love and personalised care into each and every post :-*
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I'm pretty sure Radiohead is taking the piss. You guys are being riled up this easily?
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It's a bit too much yeah to be taken seriously :lol
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i hate everything to be sure
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had to google what kayfabe was
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me too
I think the gaming section should be renamed to Keyfabe
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If only there were enough drugs in this world to believe every dumb thing posted here was kayfabe
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battle of the tech demos (because games will look like this, guys)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8c_u-YARgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFCf0J0gUa8
battle of the launch (?) games (totally fair comparison)
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:umad
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I'm pretty sure Radiohead is taking the piss. You guys are being riled up this easily?
You have to realize ninthings have been bottling up so many feels to point of blue balls from the constant harassment and ridicule over the Wii U.
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the PS4 hardware is pretty goddam hot, but in regards to how the games actually look, there won't be too large a distinction from the outset. Probably in two years or so, there will be.
The other shit that the system does though is truly next-gen as compared to the weoooeoeoeooo. Wii U can't even fucking download an update and load an OS quickly to save its life. PS4 is fucking streaming games as you both play AND buy them at the same time. that shit is amazing
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Wii U games will probably still be better cause Nintendo actually is known to release 60 fps games.
It's incredible how incompetent developers are when it comes to framerate. PS4 is so fucking ridicously powerful and still the new Killzone is 30 fps. If you can do Super Mario Galaxy @ 60 fps on a piece of shit like the Wii, how the hell can you not run a game at 60 fps on PS4? 30 fps is inexcusable.
Wii U is an utter piece of shit also but Nintendo, despite not being as competent as they used to be, is still better than most developers and their system will survive on Nintendo games alone.
reposted gaf post or do i need to say that's not how it works
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is the money going out or coming in?!
edit: oh that's supposed to be Kaz
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The Wii U is probably going to be half the price for the entire generation.
It's like a 10 times difference in power with the PS4?
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The Wii U is probably going to be half the price for the entire generation.
It's like a 10 times difference in power with the PS4?
PSQuattro/XBox720 got no whimsy cores or gigglebits nicca.
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The difference is so big it doesn't matter if you say 10 or 100 times, it won't be able to play any Durango/PS4 games.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514806
since Killzone 4 is 30fps @1080p, all the rest of the PS4 games will be this too. Now, SMB WiiU is 60fps @ 720p. 60 - 30 is 30. 1080 - 720 = 360.
The difference between the current gen and last gen is 9 because 360 divided by 30 is 9.
This is like the first thing you learn at DigiPen.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514806 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514806)
since Killzone 4 is 30fps @1080p, all the rest of the PS4 games will be this too. Now, SMB WiiU is 60fps @ 720p. 60 - 30 is 30. 1080 - 720 = 360.
The difference between the current gen and last gen is 9 because 360 divided by 30 is 9.
This is like the first thing you learn at DigiPen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI
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A 1080P 60 fps game would require 5 times more processing power than the same game at 720 30 fps. Now assuming they also have worse effects, less AA, and no bokchoi DOF or whatever and maybe just maybe we'll see some Wuu ports.
For a console that is half the price of the competition, Nintendo wants game royalties, not so much actual console sales.
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A 1080P 60 fps game would require 5 times more processing power than the same game at 720 30 fps.
What? Source please. Are you just assuming there is a linear correlation between the number of pixels per second and the required processing power?
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Listen to me, and pay attention because reading comprehension seems selective on this forum. What good are specs if the worlds created with them are predictable and boring? Why would i pay hundreds of dollars to escape into a setting that is less amazing than what my own imagination can come up with? That killzone demo and that capcom game dont show me a place i MUST see the rest of. They dont inspire me to pick up a controller and find out what comes next. A game like 3d land does. Luigi 2 does. Skyward Sword did. Final Fantasy 7s did. There is a difference, if not to all then at least to some. When iwata says specs dont matter he doesnt mean they dont exist. I just couldnt give a shit about them.
My creative standard is far too high.
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Er i think they are about the same.
88 vs 512
2GB(1 useable for games) vs 8GB
As for the actual looks, i wasnt impressed, i was expecting a night and day difference.
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vs
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vs
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I coudlnt find the more impressive looking knack pics soz.
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From now on I'm just going to assume that all other posts are copied from GAF.
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Listen to me, and pay attention because reading comprehension seems selective on this forum. What good are specs if the worlds created with them are predictable and boring? Why would i pay hundreds of dollars to escape into a setting that is less amazing than what my own imagination can come up with? That killzone demo and that capcom game dont show me a place i MUST see the rest of. They dont inspire me to pick up a controller and find out what comes next. A game like 3d land does. Luigi 2 does. Skyward Sword did. Final Fantasy 7s did. There is a difference, if not to all then at least to some. When iwata says specs dont matter he doesnt mean they dont exist. I just couldnt give a shit about them.
My creative standard is far too high.
oh god :-\
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Listen to me, and pay attention because reading comprehension seems selective on this forum. What good are specs if the worlds created with them are predictable and boring? Why would i pay hundreds of dollars to escape into a setting that is less amazing than what my own imagination can come up with? That killzone demo and that capcom game dont show me a place i MUST see the rest of. They dont inspire me to pick up a controller and find out what comes next. A game like 3d land does. Luigi 2 does. Skyward Sword did. Final Fantasy 7s did. There is a difference, if not to all then at least to some. When iwata says specs dont matter he doesnt mean they dont exist. I just couldnt give a shit about them.
My creative standard is far too high.
This has to be a joke post
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Nah difference between Wii and 360/PS3 was massive, but due to diminishing returns I don't think it's anywhere near as big this time around. What might bite Nintendo in the ass is going PowerPC while everyone else goes x86 though.
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Listen to me, and pay attention because reading comprehension seems selective on this forum. What good are specs if the worlds created with them are predictable and boring? Why would i pay hundreds of dollars to escape into a setting that is less amazing than what my own imagination can come up with? That killzone demo and that capcom game dont show me a place i MUST see the rest of. They dont inspire me to pick up a controller and find out what comes next. A game like 3d land does. Luigi 2 does. Skyward Sword did. Final Fantasy 7s did. There is a difference, if not to all then at least to some. When iwata says specs dont matter he doesnt mean they dont exist. I just couldnt give a shit about them.
My creative standard is far too high.
This has to be a joke post
yeah, I think the FF7 part blew his cover.
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Nah difference between Wii and 360/PS3 was massive, but due to diminishing returns I don't think it's anywhere near as big this time around. What might bite Nintendo in the ass is going PowerPC while everyone else goes x86 though.
Is everybody quoting gaf itt now?
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Nah difference between Wii and 360/PS3 was massive, but due to diminishing returns I don't think it's anywhere near as big this time around. What might bite Nintendo in the ass is going PowerPC while everyone else goes x86 though.
Is everybody quoting gaf itt now?
Zing.
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Which WiiU games shown have budgets like PS4's KillZone?
Ill wait to till I see a big budget WiiU title to determine if the difference is that stark.
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Nah difference between Wii and 360/PS3 was massive, but due to diminishing returns I don't think it's anywhere near as big this time around. What might bite Nintendo in the ass is going PowerPC while everyone else goes x86 though.
Is everybody quoting gaf itt now?
I didn't take notes, and the interview lasted for more than an hour. The interviewer was the producer of the show, a very gentle man named Shola Akinnuso. We had never met before, but Shola has worked on Bonus Round since episode 1, and "knew" me from there. He is a GAF member, I neglected to ask his GAF username.
As much as this may shock many of you, the questions were generally balanced and my answers were generally balanced. I don't want to ruin the drama that will build in the final show, which will be edited to fit whatever time is allowed, but suffice to say that there will be six people interviewed (me, James Stevenson, David Jaffe, Arne Meyer, Denis Dyack and Evilore). Given that my interview was an hour, my guess is that Shola will compile at least four hours of content, if not more, and will edit down to 45 minutes to an hour of final product. I suggested that he present in three segments (the good, the bad and the ugly), but it's his show, so we'll all have to wait and see what he comes up with. Jaffe, Stevenson and Meyer are being interviewed today, Dyack at GDC in five weeks, and Evilore some other time. It will probably be April or later before we see the finished product.
For my part, Shola asked me how I learned about GAF, when and why I joined, why I read threads on the site, why I post, and more or less what benefits I get from visiting. He asked me to talk about good experiences (yes, I have had some) and bad experiences (no further elaboration needed), asked me if I thought NeoGAF served a purpose, whether I thought it was important, and so on.
We concluded with questions about the E word -- Gamer Entitlement -- and whether I thought NeoGAF was representative of the gamer community in general.
I don't want to spoil the surprise, but suffice to say that I was honest about my experiences, and I believe I was realistic about the value of the site. I like NeoGAF, find the members generally thoughtful, very smart, and sometimes snarky. I talked about all of this, and concluded that I find the site valuable for learning about things I know little about -- yes, I know that could describe anything that relates to gaming -- and for tracking rumors in real time. I do believe that NeoGAF is representative of hard core gamers, and think that developers can learn from criticism here. We'll see if Jaffe and Dyack agree.
My two shout outs were to the moderators here, who I find consistently gracious, and to Junkwaffle, who I think represents all that is good about NeoGAF. I gave a shout out off camera to Mama Robotnik as well, as someone who consistently made me smile.
My guess is that Shola will have a similar conversation with the other interview subjects, and the final televised product will be pretty balanced.
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Console shit. I thought I would find it funny but m'fers are just annoying.
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:lol basically who gives a shit though right? I know what game I'd rather play there. Graphix whores suck so much, games can certainly benefit from more power, such a pity the mainstream focus is so heavy on the graphical prowess this power can provide. How about all the other shit that actually makes a game interesting? Fuckin graphics, pretty much the bane of modern game design. Doesn't matter if it's less interesting so long as it looks better right?
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The difference is bigger than people realise - gonna be some salty tears this gen
The other thing is that the gimmick angle for wiiSpew has failed - it's express elevator to hell time for notrybro
Without the blue rinse gamers and Family Casual they are straight up fucked - the funny thing will be when they spunk out a WiiTryabitharder in 4 years time and it's STILL underpowered
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Wait you guys are taking sony press conference shots as real?
Do you never learn?
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The difference is bigger than people realise - gonna be some salty tears this gen
The other thing is that the gimmick angle for wiiSpew has failed - it's express elevator to hell time for notrybro
Without the blue rinse gamers and Family Casual they are straight up fucked - the funny thing will be when they spunk out a WiiTryabitharder in 4 years time and it's STILL underpowered
I think the average joe isnt going to see that much difference. Stocks of Sony dived after the show and Nintendo's stocks jumped
Its a bigger difference to me seeing a wii to wii u jump than it is to wii U to PS4.
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Console shit. I thought I would find it funny but m'fers are just annoying.
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:lol basically who gives a shit though right? I know what game I'd rather play there. Graphix whores suck so much, games can certainly benefit from more power, such a pity the mainstream focus is so heavy on the graphical prowess this power can provide. How about all the other shit that actually makes a game interesting? Fuckin graphics, pretty much the bane of modern game design. Doesn't matter if it's less interesting so long as it looks better right?
Gaf repost?
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Wait you guys are taking sony press conference shots as real?
Do you never learn?
The only thing that looked better than Watch Dogs was the new Killzone. And it didn't seem beyond expectations for next-gen.
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This is like the first thing you learn at DigiPen.
second thing. first thing is how to get cum out of plush.
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The difference is bigger than people realise - gonna be some salty tears this gen
The other thing is that the gimmick angle for wiiSpew has failed - it's express elevator to hell time for notrybro
Without the blue rinse gamers and Family Casual they are straight up fucked - the funny thing will be when they spunk out a WiiTryabitharder in 4 years time and it's STILL underpowered
I think the average joe isnt going to see that much difference. Stocks of Sony dived after the show and Nintendo's stocks jumped
Its a bigger difference to me seeing a wii to wii u jump than it is to wii U to PS4.
Lol - so - no one can tell the difference between this gen and Nintendo's sank stain effort but people gun be struggling on X720/ps4 vs wiiMildew?
Get fucking real you dick smoking wank pot
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Lol - so - no one can tell the difference between this gen and Nintendo's sank stain effort but people gun be struggling on X720/ps4 vs wiiMildew?
Get fucking real you dick smoking wank pot
Hey charlie, screw you buddy!
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the idea that hedge fund managers were comparing Killzone gifs on gaf when deciding whether to buy or sell Sony yesterday is just :rofl
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Can somebody make the gifs like 4x smaller so they look even more nextgen?
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Lol - so - no one can tell the difference between this gen and Nintendo's sank stain effort but people gun be struggling on X720/ps4 vs wiiMildew?
Get fucking real you dick smoking wank pot
I am not understanding what you are saying. I never said that people will be struggling to see the difference just that it isnt as pronounced as the wii to wii U. The wii is 480p and the wii U in most cases will be around 720p. 480p -> 720p > 720p -> 1080p. Gamers like us will definitely notice the difference, but the average person won see that much difference until you tell them.
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Uhm ok. This is what nintards said last gen as well.
"Games will look just as good just lower res" - Nintendo fans 2006
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Come on Oscar don't make think less of you again.
100 million bought it because of waggle and wii bowling, most of those people dont even play games anymore. If anything they bought it DESPITE the jarring visuals. I did the same, but only a few months in I couldnt take it anymore and had to sell.
If were talking gamers then they are just deluding themselves.
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On SDTV's it wasnt that bad but on HDTV's it was terrible.
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Huh, seems the gap (at least in RAM) is much bigger from WiiU > PS4 than Wii > PS3. I'm actually quite a bit shocked by that.
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Lager missing a point, that's a surprise. :P
I think local Ninthings have a point.I mean just look into the past,COD and Bethesda games are not exactly graphical powerhouses,gaf ridicules them constantly and yet people buy them in droves.
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And yet they barely run on a PS3. Nintendo-only gamers won't be playing The Elder Scrolls VI or Call of Duty 2014.
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Ok guys you go play your diminishing returns Ill be ballin on my ps fo
Sure there's diminishing returns when you make games like NSMB which look the same with 5 years between them.
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And yet they barely run on a PS3. Nintendo-only gamers won't be playing The Elder Scrolls VI or Call of Duty 2014.
We have pc's for Elder Scrolls VI finally not look like ass because of weak consoles edition. Dunno abotu CoD though.
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COD2 > COD now is a huge leap.
Just go back to COD2 for a sec brah
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Ok guys you go play your diminishing returns Ill be ballin on my ps fo
You know it is the same thing would have been said of the Xbox vs ps2 situation. Have fun though. Some peopel have argued to death of how some games on the ps2 coudlnt be done on the Xbox and shit like that.
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COD2 > COD now is a huge leap.
Just go back to COD2 for a sec brah
Not interested in FPS games.
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COD2 on PC
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BLOPS 2
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And yet they barely run on a PS3. Nintendo-only gamers won't be playing The Elder Scrolls VI or Call of Duty 2014.
Only if 2013 WiiU COD completely bombs.
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COD2 was a 360 game? Wow, even the farcry wii game looks better to me. I guess they were still learning the architecture back then of the consoles. I guess the same for the ps4 and durango.
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Only if 2013 WiiU COD completely bombs.
It will.
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COD2 was a 360 game? Wow, even the farcry wii game looks better to me. I guess they were still learning the architecture back then of the consoles. I guess the same for the ps4 and durango.
COD2 360 was one of the many crappy port-ups that comprised the entire 360 launch line-up.
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Oh i see. So why was PL bringing that up then?
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Oh i see. So why was PL bringing that up then?
He's trying to make the point of how much CoD has improved graphically over the last 8 years. Which goes without saying. 8 years on the PC is a lifetime in terms of power.
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Oh i see. So why was PL bringing that up then?
Because that's what launch line-ups are usually made out of. Developers are still trying to familiarize themselves with the new hardware and the first games are going to be similar to the work they did for the previous generation. It's the same for the new Killzone.
Compare Killzone 3 with Resistance: Fall of Man and you'll see that they're quite far from each other.
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Makes sense.
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The answer is no.
And you can't really group together the PS4 and MSbox now that the Sony beast is 1.5-2 as powerful.
You guys must have forgotten just how weak the Wii was in comparison to the PS360.
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The Wii U is also comparably weak.
Even though Microsoft are unlikely to match the PS4's memory it could still turn out to be a powerful machine. We still don't know all the details about the specs and some things can change on a short notice.
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The answer is no.
And you can't really group together the PS4 and MSbox now that the Sony beast is 1.5-2 as powerful.
You guys must have forgotten just how weak the Wii was in comparison to the PS360.
Wasnt the wii 733MHz single core, Xbox 360 tri core at 3.2 Ghz? So the Xbox 360 was actually about 12-15 times as powerful as the wii in cpu power.
I dont know how to figure out the difference in the GPU though, the xbox 360 GPU was 500 Mhz with 48 pipelines. The wii was 243 Mhz with an 16 stage tev but the tev was much more expensive to use.
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COD2 360 was one of the many crappy port-ups that comprised the entire 360 launch line-up.
What was it ported up from? The PC version?
Big Red One is a completely different game, from Treyarch not IW.
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Yep, it's just a PC port of the real Call of Duty 2. I thought it looked pretty good on my Xbox back in the day, but yeah it hasn't aged well. Good game though.
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COD2 360 was one of the many crappy port-ups that comprised the entire 360 launch line-up.
What was it ported up from? The PC version?
Big Red One is a completely different game, from Treyarch not IW.
Yeah I know. But a lot of the 360 launch lineup was crappy ports (whether up-ports or otherwise) so I just think back to them all as crappy up-ports.
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Lager's being an idiot child who can't deal with talks at the adult table. Yet again.
At least Methodis comes by it honestly.
I dont even know what you guys are on about PS4 is ages ahead of WiiU in graphics and if you think the difference isnt big well good for you welcome to the housewives club.
Im just telling things how they are.
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yes Wii U is a like a ductaped wii, and it is behind ps3 and 360 even. A new low from nintendo.
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Lager's being an idiot child who can't deal with talks at the adult table. Yet again.
At least Methodis comes by it honestly.
I dont even know what you guys are on about PS4 is ages ahead of WiiU in graphics and if you think the difference isnt big well good for you welcome to the housewives club.
Im just telling things how they are.
You are missing the point again.I don't think anybody is claiming that PS4 is not running circles around WiiU in power department.
One little thing,
If Battlefield 4 rumors are true,the game will run at 1080p 60fps
What is your opinion on that?Why would EA do something like that?Game will look worse than Killzone 4,unless Guerrilla Games fucked up in graphics department.
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I know what diminishing returns means Oscar :maf :maf :maf :maf :maf
If Battlefield 4 rumors are true,the game will run at 1080p 60fps
What is your opinion on that?Why would EA do something like that?Game will look worse than Killzone 4,unless Guerrilla Games fucked up in graphics department.
My opinion is that I think it matters more for a MP focussed game like COD/BF to be 60 then for a more SP oriented shooter like Shitzone.
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:lol
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Do you have a graph of who is leader in stupid posts in your opinion Oscar?
Some stupid posts chart.
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Wait you guys are taking sony press conference shots as real?
Do you never learn?
The difference this time is that Sony is putting out the hardware to make it a reality.
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Finally I can win at something :hyper :hyper
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Oscar, please don't ever go read the Roman Polanski thread, I think it's in the HoS. Your head would 'asplode.
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But Chinatown
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That can't be Borys, you never heard of diminishing returns?
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There are no diminishing returns on fanboy retardism, just exponential growth.
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He's right Borys
A post that would earn half a bucket for the average borean only earns a few for lager
Otherwise Japan would run out of soy beans
:pimp
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Unfortunately for Nintendo, most of those casual players who bought a Wii don't know or care about the WiiU. They're too busy reading 50 Shades of Grey on their Kindles while watching Anderson Cooper on their HDTV. Graphics matter to the gamers that will drive this generation. The WiiU won't look bad in comparison in November, at least not by much. But next November?
I ultimately agree about diminishing returns though. The issue is that the system won't get the same games the other systems get due to limited tech. So while the WiiU will still have nice looking games in a year or two, it will miss out on most shit people want to play with their friends. IMO the lack of a decent online system will hurt the system even more than its tech.
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Jonathan Blow says the WiiU is too weak to run his artsy puzzle game:
We liked the idea of being on a console, and originally we thought we might be on the PS3 or Xbox 360, but eventually we decided not to target either of those due to the relatively low system specs. After some more time went by, and our release date drifted further into the future, we realized that the next-generation console launch time might be a good time to release the game. "The Wii U still has pretty low system specs, so it came down to a choice between the next Microsoft console or the next Sony console.
http://kotaku.com/5986093/how-the-witness-became-a-ps4-game-and-why-pcios-owners-can-remain-happy
Poor WiiU :'(
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Jonathan Blow presents Sliding Puzzles: The Game [only possible on the PS4!]
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The Witness is on iOS (probably iPad only), so
COD2 was a 360 game? Wow, even the farcry wii game looks better to me. I guess they were still learning the architecture back then of the consoles. I guess the same for the ps4 and durango.
I don't believe you've ever seen far cry wii
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Other than Watch Dogs, none of the games shown actually pushed the boundaries of what we've seen in terms of scope of a game. Eventually, all the technical achievements in a game's graphics go away if you don't create new situations with the technology. It was kind of dumb that they showed off a racing game, it's the genre you get bored of the most quickly as far as visuals.
I do think games like Alan Wake or even Forza 3/4 would be impossible on xbox, as you'd have to give up too much of the effects or physics that are important to the gameplay. And there are other games like Mass Effect or Red Dead Redemption that would take a massive dive in their presentation if you used last-gen tech. But for the WiiU, there's nothing on the horizon on either the next-gen consoles or PC that looks impossible on WiiU if you make it ugly enough.
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The answer is no.
And you can't really group together the PS4 and MSbox now that the Sony beast is 1.5-2 as powerful.
You guys must have forgotten just how weak the Wii was in comparison to the PS360.
Wasnt the wii 733MHz single core, Xbox 360 tri core at 3.2 Ghz? So the Xbox 360 was actually about 12-15 times as powerful as the wii in cpu power.
I dont know how to figure out the difference in the GPU though, the xbox 360 GPU was 500 Mhz with 48 pipelines. The wii was 243 Mhz with an 16 stage tev but the tev was much more expensive to use.
Yeah, overall it was probably 10-15x more powerful.
The Durango is only 4-8x more powerful than the Wii U though (the PS4, 4-10x more powerful).
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Just because the people saying those lines are dumb and have an agenda like in the case of some Ninfans doesn't mean that there is some truth to it. Yeah, games that target Orbis/Durango can't be easily ported to WiiU, because the publishers spent tens of million $ on creating assets that won't run on Wii U. But if you're just talking about the general experience I don't know what Durango/Orbis could do that would be impossible to do on Wii U.
Current gen has enough power to do open worlds with lots of npcs and at least decently detailed environments and that's mainly what separated 360/ps3 experience wise from Wii and the gen before. This coming gen, I just don't see what type of game would be only possible with Orbis/Durango. I guess you can get even crazier with open world stuff, but most stuff won't really matter regarding gameplay. Maybe we finally get those ai and physics improvements that are we are promised each gen :-\
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I don't believe you've ever seen far cry wii
Ive seen pics of it but not running.
(http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pfc/47262639.jpg)
hmm it seems i was getting wrong results for cod 2, must have been cod 1 i was looking at for some reason.
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Lager missing a point, that's a surprise. :P
I think local Ninthings have a point.I mean just look into the past,COD and Bethesda games are not exactly graphical powerhouses,gaf ridicules them constantly and yet people buy them in droves.
I don't think this is a good example. CoD2 and 3 were successful but not industry defining, CoD4 was the first one to be a mega blockbuster and that was definitely one of the best looking games of the year and was hyped as such starting with the E3 trailer.
And the game world of Skyrim or Oblivion are dependent on the same hardware edge that made CoD4 look that good, just applied differently.
oops, loaded the page this morning and didn't respond til now, didn't know this was on page 4
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Even CoD 1 looks better than that horse crap:
(http://i.imgur.com/SVADiE0.jpg)
(I play it on my work computer sometimes :shh )
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I'm pretty sure Radiohead is taking the piss. You guys are being riled up this easily?
he isnt. I recall seeing a username like that on GameFAQs back when i used to post there in high school :teehee. Pretty sure its the same Nintranny
I've only ever posted on IGN, GA, OA and EB
Not that I'm offended by the assertion, the denizens of all the above are as dim witted and averse to fun and enthusiasm as anyone at gamefaqs I'm sure.
Sony fans are like nasty unwashed wank. I imagine they all have halitosis that smells like quim slurped labia cheese and diabetes. Just sharing this community with you guys, I feel like I should be wearing condoms on my fingers and an air filtration mask on my face. Its gross. I think you guys should get checked for bad taste tumors.
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we wont see amazing graphical differences ever again however the advent of more particles, tesselation and ~gasp~ individually modeled hair will blow people away. Think how good the hair on Alice looks. Imagine that for every npc.
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we wont see amazing graphical differences ever again however the advent of more particles, tesselation and ~gasp~ individually modeled hair will blow people away. Think how good the hair on Alice looks. Imagine that for every npc.
Snake's mustache :drool