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Title: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on March 26, 2013, 08:37:04 AM: Okay, way more information (and some scans) have started popping up. This is... really... odd. Definitely a new direction for EO. The graphics and presentation looks the same, pretty much like EO4, except it no longer looks like a "create your own party from the start and just explore" dungeon crawler. Instead there's a main character who you can name (he is voiced in story scenes), and there's a full story where you meet other characters, and they join your party like a story RPG. All the characters appear to be voiced.

The storyline is based on EO1, but there are a ton of changes. The story starts with the main character running into a mysterious girl. The main character is a young man from the Highlands, doing some job for the guild office in Etria, and the girl he runs into is Frederica Irving, who appears to have lost her memory. Her character design has her holding a gun too.

So yeah, an EO1 remake with named characters, voice acting, and more focus on plot. Did anyone really ask for this? It's... somewhat interesting though I must say. It also means you no longer create classes for your party too, since all the party members are actual characters who have their own fixed classes. Hmm...
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Post by: demi on March 26, 2013, 08:44:18 AM: What exactly sounds bad? It sounds like any other EO, just more focused. You can still change classes (only on main character?) and such. The inclusion of the "guest characters" sounds no different than what EO4 already has.
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Post by: maxy on March 26, 2013, 08:52:36 AM: nvm
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: magus on March 26, 2013, 09:39:59 AM: gotta make some money by recycling those 3d models for at least 3 other games :smug

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The storyline is based on EO1, but there are a ton of changes. The story starts with the main character running into a mysterious girl.

:uguu hunt incoming
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: magus on March 26, 2013, 10:22:20 AM: (http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/13/1364305709-etrian-odyssey-the-millennium-girl.png)

dem loli's
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 26, 2013, 10:24:16 AM: Anything that grabs magoose's goat is fine in my book, I'll probably even buy 2 copies even though I don't even have a 3DS.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 26, 2013, 10:40:55 AM: Enjoy your Rogue Galaxy, magus. :teehee
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: magus on March 26, 2013, 11:22:06 AM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 26, 2013, 10:40:55 AM
Enjoy your Rogue Galaxy, magus. :teehee

as far as i'm concerned they are both 2007 games :smug
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: archie4208 on March 26, 2013, 12:05:30 PM: Why do you hate Atlus games again, Magoose?
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 26, 2013, 01:06:59 PM: Hahahaha Atlus plotting against Magus confirmed.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: magus on March 26, 2013, 01:40:46 PM: Quote from: archie4208 on March 26, 2013, 12:05:30 PM
Why do you hate Atlus games again, Magoose?

as i said i don't hate atlus games,as much as i hate etrian odyssey and SMT spinoff (though i guess that does consitutes 90% of the whole atlus library)
there are many things that i find frustating in etrian odyssey,namely the job system,the skill tree (and especialy how some skills are useless or how some skills tends to actualy get worse the more point you spend on them as they get more expensive for what consistutes a very small improvement) those stupid gathering point that force you to make a farming party and the fact that the game has random difficulty spike's that you have to cheese in some manner... (just to remain in the theme of the original game,half of EO1 was becoming immortal through the use of the immunize skill)

as an added bonus i have a feud with atlus fanboy because everytime i open my mouth it turns out i'm wrong because "I'M NOT HARDCOREZ ENOUGH"

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 26, 2013, 01:06:59 PM
Hahahaha Atlus plotting against Magus confirmed.

i tought that was pretty clear when they announced SMT X FE,i fear what they might have next for me :(
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Post by: Bebpo on March 26, 2013, 06:26:38 PM: Wait, which SMT spinoff do you hate?

If it's SJ, you can't be my friend anymore magus :'(
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: magus on March 26, 2013, 06:46:01 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on March 26, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
Wait, which SMT spinoff do you hate?

If it's SJ, you can't be my friend anymore magus :'(

ah-ah actualy strange journey is the only SMT spinoff i like,because it's like etrian odyssey minus all the stuff i hate from etrian odyssey,plus all the stuff i like from nocturne
i was refering to the trifecta of persona/devil summoner/devil survivor,they aren't bad games per se but i gave up half-bored on all of them and they aren't nocturne,and there is a single nocturne and a bajillion of them >:(

they should have remade nocturne :fbm

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Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Lucretius on March 26, 2013, 08:01:10 PM: I'm playing Strange Journey right now. I was thinking they ought to remake SMT I and II and finally give them a western release.
Remake of the first EO does seem kind of random. Not that it seems like a horrible idea but... was anyone clamoring for this? I mean... no western release for Eternal Punishment PSP and then this...
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 26, 2013, 08:31:56 PM: looks incredible, will buy
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Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 03, 2013, 01:10:29 PM: I will buy this day 1.

It is about time someone at Atlus realized that the company was sitting on a gold mine, one that was poorly explored, clumsily mined, and crudely presented in the form of the original EO1.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on April 03, 2013, 01:20:13 PM: Can't tell if serious...
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 03, 2013, 01:25:57 PM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2013, 01:20:13 PM
Can't tell if serious...

I am. Outside of whatever 3D features they apply on this game, this enhanced version is what the DS game should have been.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on April 03, 2013, 01:38:10 PM: Wasn't it you who said there wasn't a market for these games?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 03, 2013, 01:53:11 PM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2013, 01:38:10 PM
Wasn't it you who said there wasn't a market for these games?

There really isn't, much like there isn't much of a market for Art Academy, and yet it's one of my favorite 'games' ever. I don't see how my earlier comments are at odds with my present interest in this title.
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Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2013, 06:23:10 PM: ? yeah no market ::) thats why the games sell in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands. Dumbass
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 11:06:52 AM: Quote from: The Sceneman on April 03, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
? yeah no market ::) thats why the games sell in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands. Dumbass

One series selling six figures worldwide doesn't make a market. Name me some more dungeon crawler series in the same vein as EO, then tell me if they even sell that much.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: mjemirzian on April 04, 2013, 11:14:40 AM: Andrex's replacement has arrived, I see. ???

On topic, looks like a decent remake. I gave up on EO4 after I "retired" all my guys to lv 22 and realized I had to grind back up to 40+ to keep progressing. Aint nobody got time for that!
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on April 04, 2013, 11:14:55 AM: There clearly must be a market if they keep churning them out. They probably don't require as high a return as these AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA titles out there.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2013, 11:16:17 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on April 03, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
? yeah no market ::) thats why the games sell in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands. Dumbass

One series selling six figures worldwide doesn't make a market. Name me some more dungeon crawler series in the same vein as EO, then tell me if they even sell that much.

I let you know when Might & Magic X comes out.

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Legend of Grimrock sold 600k copies.
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Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Huff on April 04, 2013, 11:45:39 AM: E04 sold less than 15k on the last npd right?

I'd agree that theres not much of a market, but these games don't need much of a market
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2013, 11:53:21 AM: Here's the breakdown:

EO1 - 166k US, 299k worldwide
EO2 - 68k US, 241k worldwide
EO3 - 85k US, 286k worldwide
EO4 - 20k US, 193k worldwide

lol vgchartzzzzzz
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2013, 12:05:13 PM: This is the part where you're going to tell me those numbers are completely wrong, so you might as well just go ahead and do it.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: The Sceneman on April 04, 2013, 12:08:18 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on April 03, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
? yeah no market ::) thats why the games sell in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands. Dumbass

One series selling six figures worldwide doesn't make a market. Name me some more dungeon crawler series in the same vein as EO, then tell me if they even sell that much.

If I designed 100 t-shirts and sold 50 of them, I would say theres a market for those shirts. If several people are buying shit, that constitutes a market.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on April 04, 2013, 12:20:11 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
This is the part where you're going to tell me those numbers are completely wrong, so you might as well just go ahead and do it.

You didn't answer the question. Take your failure like a man.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2013, 12:22:00 PM: Those numbers are from Wikipedia. Hey, at least I didn't go to VGChartzzzzzz.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on April 04, 2013, 12:39:08 PM: Where do you think those numbesr probably came from? lol.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2013, 12:48:55 PM: Quote from: demi on April 04, 2013, 12:39:08 PM
Where do you think those numbesr probably came from? lol.

:noah
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 01:03:54 PM: Quote from: The Sceneman on April 04, 2013, 12:08:18 PM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on April 03, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
? yeah no market ::) thats why the games sell in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands. Dumbass

One series selling six figures worldwide doesn't make a market. Name me some more dungeon crawler series in the same vein as EO, then tell me if they even sell that much.

If I designed 100 t-shirts and sold 50 of them, I would say theres a market for those shirts. If several people are buying shit, that constitutes a market.

Just because there's a market for your specific t-shirt, doesn't mean there's a market for t-shirts in general (hence "these games" since you seem so hell-bent on semantics). EO might be the exception, certainly not the rule, unless you're going to argue that the performance of it peers like the Dark Spire and Unchained Blades make a strong case for the vitality of the genre as a whole. And since your example suggests that 50 t-shirt sales constitutes a market, I have little doubt that you'd consider the dismal commercial performances of those games to be a moot point.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: The Sceneman on April 04, 2013, 01:21:51 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on April 04, 2013, 12:08:18 PM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on April 04, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on April 03, 2013, 06:23:10 PM
? yeah no market ::) thats why the games sell in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands. Dumbass

One series selling six figures worldwide doesn't make a market. Name me some more dungeon crawler series in the same vein as EO, then tell me if they even sell that much.

If I designed 100 t-shirts and sold 50 of them, I would say theres a market for those shirts. If several people are buying shit, that constitutes a market.

Just because there's a market for your specific t-shirt, doesn't mean there's a market for t-shirts in general (hence "these games" since you seem so hell-bent on semantics). EO might be the exception, certainly not the rule, unless you're going to argue that the performance of it peers like the Dark Spire and Unchained Blades make a strong case for the vitality of the genre as a whole. And since your example suggests that 50 t-shirt sales constitutes a market, I have little doubt that you'd consider the dismal commercial performances of those games to be a moot point.

Okay, maybe I'm completely lost here. I was just assuming that even though EO sales aren't huge, Atlus keeps producing the games, because they're selling enough and the requisite company resources are minimal. I'm assuming Atlus is turning a profit.

Oscar, correct me if I'm wrong

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Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: mjemirzian on April 04, 2013, 01:29:37 PM: Etrian Odyssey is a neat dungeon crawler series. :-[
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Post by: Powerslave on April 04, 2013, 02:04:13 PM: the fuck is it with these shit rpg names
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Post by: Trent Dole on April 04, 2013, 05:06:11 PM: It's called naming a game in a language which is not native to you also known as pick random words that you think look/sound cool together. :gddr5
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Post by: Raban on April 05, 2013, 12:31:53 AM: that title is way better
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Post by: demi on April 05, 2013, 12:41:12 PM: I dont see how they lost their meaning. I'm pretty sure every game has a "world tree" -- especially EO4.
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Post by: mjemirzian on April 05, 2013, 01:33:48 PM: $10 Uguu Bucks says they make the original dancer outfit sluttier.
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Post by: Raban on April 05, 2013, 02:55:17 PM: Quote from: demi on April 05, 2013, 12:41:12 PM
I dont see how they lost their meaning. I'm pretty sure every game has a "world tree" -- especially EO4.

I think he means that "Etrian Odyssey" specifically lost its meaning, because the games no longer take place in Etria. Wikipedia translates the original Japanese title as "Labyrinth of Yggdrasill", which is the best name.
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Post by: demi on April 05, 2013, 02:56:37 PM: This is like complaining about the title of Final Fantasy. lol

Cmon now.
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Post by: mjemirzian on April 05, 2013, 02:57:37 PM: No translational nuance is too small for JRPGers to argue over.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: Raban on April 05, 2013, 02:59:02 PM: Quote from: mjemirzian on April 05, 2013, 02:57:37 PM
No translational nuance is too small for JRPGers to argue over.

100% truth
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Post by: Joe Molotov on April 05, 2013, 03:01:42 PM: You don't even go to Halo planet in Halo 4, guess they better change the name.
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Post by: Raban on April 05, 2013, 03:04:15 PM: :lol
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Post by: Himu on April 05, 2013, 03:07:20 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 04, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
There's definitely a market for the genre in Japan. EO, Class of Heroes, Project X Zone, Wizardry, some recent Megaten games, and various PSP one-offs have all done well. Outside Japan, I feel it's genuinely a tough sell, even for EO. Most who would be interested have transitioned to real time affairs like Skyrim.

Disagree. Legend of Grim rock was more popular than any EO I've seen in terms of fan discussion and people playing it.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 05, 2013, 03:14:43 PM: Technically, Legend of Grimrock is real time, though.
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Post by: Powerslave on April 05, 2013, 04:39:20 PM: I don't give a fuck about the meaning of the title and how it relates to anything. If it sounds overstylished and odd, it's stupid. It makes me not want to play a game.
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Post by: Powerslave on April 05, 2013, 04:41:49 PM: See also that horrible Dissidia Duodecim shit and most other Square Enix games
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey 1 remake on 3DS - magus found crying :uguu
Post by: demi on April 05, 2013, 04:44:59 PM: Ok. And?
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Post by: Lucretius on April 05, 2013, 11:56:06 PM: the japanese box art looks pretty.

http://tinycartridge.com/post/47223033908/etrian-odyssey-millennium-maiden-box
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Post by: mjemirzian on April 06, 2013, 01:43:49 AM: Quote from: demi on April 05, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
Ok. And?
If you buy games with engrishy titles you might come down with a case of the Uguus. Best stick to Manly Death: Heterosexual Warfare 3.
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Post by: Lucretius on April 06, 2013, 10:54:53 AM: (http://24.media.tumblr.com/7b23bc40cf1cf8aeb3677e2ee42d5d2b/tumblr_mksv1vZbQY1qzp9weo4_r1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: demi on April 17, 2013, 04:57:17 PM: In this week's Famitsu, they reveal that the upcoming remake of EO1 will offer a choice between "Story Mode" and "Classic Mode" when you start the game. In Classic Mode you can create your own party members like in the original series.

There's an option for Old and New music as well as three difficulty options (Picnic, Normal and Expert).

New EO also features a new gameplay mechanic - Grimoires. They're skill items which you get through a fixed random chance in battles. By equipping Grimoires on characters, they can use skills which are outside of their class options. There are also Enemy Skills on some Grimoires. and they can be crafted to create new ones. There are over 200 different Grimoire types.