THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Joe Molotov on April 09, 2013, 02:43:20 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/09/justice/texas-college-stabbing/index.html
14 injured, no one killed. Insert talking point of your choice here.
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If someone there had been carrying a gun innocent people wouldn't have got hurt. :usacry
Unless it was the stabbers that had the gun I guess.
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That's a lot of injuries, but at least no fatalities are being reported.
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If someone there had been carrying a gun innocent people wouldn't have got hurt. :usacry
Unless it was the stabbers that had the gun I guess.
Ya but only idiot stabbers carry guns
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You'd think a couple of people would be able to subdue someone carrying a knife before over a dozen people were hurt
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You'd think a couple of people would be able to subdue someone carrying a knife before over a dozen people were hurt
red tape and government regulations :violin
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You'd think a couple of people would be able to subdue someone carrying a knife before over a dozen people were hurt
I don't even know how you would subdue someone with a knife, even with multiple people. Slash wounds alone are fucking dangerous, never mind getting stabbed.
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Alleged mass stabber bludgeoned to death with laptops in backpacks.
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You'd think a couple of people would be able to subdue someone carrying a knife before over a dozen people were hurt
I don't even know how you would subdue someone with a knife, even with multiple people. Slash wounds alone are fucking dangerous, never mind getting stabbed.
by not being a baby back bitch
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survival training should be mandatory in every school, maybe in place of PE
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An obvious and shameful lack of knife control, obviously we need to pass more laws outlawing knives.
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Don't be irrational. We only need to ban certain kinds of knives - Assault knives and ones made by the Swiss etc. Knives used in hunting, dinner preparation, and home protection obviously need to stay. You know in case our government goes fascist or adopts universal healthcare.
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with proper training, any knife can kill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vf4x5eK2Vk
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I find black knives to be particularly scary.
Do you mean all black or black handle with a silver blade mulatto knives?
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he meant a black's knife
:oreilly
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WHITE KNIFE
EH EH EH EH EH EH EH
BLACK KNIFE
DOOP DOOP DOOP DOOP
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can't stab someone with a gun! Just sayin'! thanks obama
/newspaper website comments section
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An obvious and shameful lack of knife control, obviously we need to pass more laws outlawing knives.
Without knives, how can we prevent tyranny?
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I like how in this thread everyone says what they don't mean and it's so funny.
I blame Obama.
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can't stab someone with a gun!
this is false.
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/CZpistolBayonet.jpg)
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Black, who would have guessed ::)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vSCViCQWFc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATiU-cZCPc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vSCViCQWFc
how do you even REMEMBER a line from Surf Ninjas
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Mandark, who I just discover isn't called Mandrake, is just one hypostasis of a great intelligence.
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how do you even REMEMBER a line from Surf Ninjas
How do you not?
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about the only thing I can ever remember is random dumb lines from 80s/90s flicks
i could probably type the entire script to If Looks Could Kill right here and now
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vSCViCQWFc
how do you even REMEMBER a line from Surf Ninjas
pretty much the best movie ever
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So... isn't harder to get a knife than a gun in Texas? Serious question.
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...no.
you know how people say that there are no stupid questions? that was a stupid question.
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no-one killed
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Yeah, I'm not signing up to be stabbed or anything, but I'm enjoying the whole "no-one killed" aspect of this as well.
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I'd rather be stabbed in Texas than shot in California
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Yeah, I think many people still assume it's the bullet hole which kills in gunshot wounds. I thought it was called "epistatic shock," but I'm clearly wrong there... found this:
As a bullet enters the body, it causes laceration and crushing wounds. The bullet punctures tissue and bone, crushing or pushing aside anything in its path. When a bullet passes through tissue, it creates a cavity that can be 30 times wider than its track (the path it takes). This cavity closes behind the bullet less than a second after the bullet passes, but the cavitation it causes can damage nearby tissue, organs and bones via shock waves.
The type and amount of injury sustained from a bullet also depends on what a bullet encounters. Soft tissue can carry shock waves more easily than bone, but since bone is dense, it absorbs more force (and damage). Bones also splinter, causing further damage as the fragments travel through the body as projectiles themselves.
Which also lead to reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_St._Martin
On June 6, 1822 Alexis St. Martin, at the fur trading post on Mackinac Island, was accidentally shot with a musket at close range. The charge of the musket shot left a hole through his side that healed to form a fistula aperture into his stomach.[3][4]
William Beaumont, a US Army surgeon stationed at a nearby army post, treated the wound. Although St. Martin was a healthy 20-year-old, he was not expected to recover due to the severity of his wound. Beaumont explains in a later paper that the shot blew off fragments of St. Martin's muscles and broke a few of his ribs. After bleeding him and giving him a cathartic, Beaumont marked St. Martin's progress. For the next 17 days, all food he ate re-emerged from his new gastric fistula. Finally after 17 days, the food began to stay in St. Martin's stomach and his bowels began to return to their natural functions. When the wound healed itself, the edge of the hole in the stomach had attached itself to the edge of the hole in the skin, creating a permanent gastric fistula. There was very little scientific understanding of digestion at the time and Beaumont recognized the opportunity he had in St. Martin - he could literally watch the processes of digestion by dangling food on a string into St. Martin's stomach, then later pulling it out to observe to what extent it had been digested. Beaumont continued to experiment on St. Martin off and on until 1833.
Alexis St. Martin allowed the experiments to be conducted, not as an act to repay Beaumont for keeping him alive, but rather because Beaumont had the illiterate St. Martin sign a contract to work as a servant. Beaumont recalls the chores St. Martin did: "During this time, in the intervals of experimenting, he performed all the duties of a common servant, chopping wood, carrying burthens, etc. with little or no suffering or inconvenience from his wound." Although these chores were not bothersome, some of the experiments were painful to St. Martin, for example when Beaumont had placed sacks of food in the stomach, Beaumont noted: “the boy complained of some pain and uneasiness at the breast.” Other symptoms St. Martin felt during experiments were a sense of weight and distress at the scrobiculus cordis and slight vertigo and dimness of vision.
:o :yuck :yuck
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'first, do no harm' my hairy Irish ass
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vSCViCQWFc
how do you even REMEMBER a line from Surf Ninjas
This is the first movie I went to watch without parental supervision. I will never, ever forget it :bow
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Knife wounds are definitely better than bullet wounds. For that reason, medieval combat was actually more humane and less deadly than modern combat, at least according to Face of Battle.
Dunno about more less deadly, given the gangrene and diseases that decimated armies after battles. I'd probably rather be blown to smithereens than take an arrow wound and slowly die of an infection.
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Which also lead to reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_St._Martin
On June 6, 1822 Alexis St. Martin, at the fur trading post on Mackinac Island, was accidentally shot with a musket at close range. The charge of the musket shot left a hole through his side that healed to form a fistula aperture into his stomach.[3][4]
William Beaumont, a US Army surgeon stationed at a nearby army post, treated the wound. Although St. Martin was a healthy 20-year-old, he was not expected to recover due to the severity of his wound. Beaumont explains in a later paper that the shot blew off fragments of St. Martin's muscles and broke a few of his ribs. After bleeding him and giving him a cathartic, Beaumont marked St. Martin's progress. For the next 17 days, all food he ate re-emerged from his new gastric fistula. Finally after 17 days, the food began to stay in St. Martin's stomach and his bowels began to return to their natural functions. When the wound healed itself, the edge of the hole in the stomach had attached itself to the edge of the hole in the skin, creating a permanent gastric fistula. There was very little scientific understanding of digestion at the time and Beaumont recognized the opportunity he had in St. Martin - he could literally watch the processes of digestion by dangling food on a string into St. Martin's stomach, then later pulling it out to observe to what extent it had been digested. Beaumont continued to experiment on St. Martin off and on until 1833.
Alexis St. Martin allowed the experiments to be conducted, not as an act to repay Beaumont for keeping him alive, but rather because Beaumont had the illiterate St. Martin sign a contract to work as a servant. Beaumont recalls the chores St. Martin did: "During this time, in the intervals of experimenting, he performed all the duties of a common servant, chopping wood, carrying burthens, etc. with little or no suffering or inconvenience from his wound." Although these chores were not bothersome, some of the experiments were painful to St. Martin, for example when Beaumont had placed sacks of food in the stomach, Beaumont noted: “the boy complained of some pain and uneasiness at the breast.” Other symptoms St. Martin felt during experiments were a sense of weight and distress at the scrobiculus cordis and slight vertigo and dimness of vision.
:o :yuck :yuck
The Science Channel had an episode of Dark Matters about that guy. Pretty interesting stuff.
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that was dramatized in an educational program which was shown to us in school. a bit of food was dangled into this fake wound and then pulled out and via the magic of editing was smaller
it was strange made stranger by the "patient's" cry of "when will you stop experimenting on me and just HEAL me?"
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Knife wounds are definitely better than bullet wounds. For that reason, medieval combat was actually more humane and less deadly than modern combat, at least according to Face of Battle.
Dunno about more less deadly, given the gangrene and diseases that decimated armies after battles. I'd probably rather be blown to smithereens than take an arrow wound and slowly die of an infection.
you know we can treat infections now, right?
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I think PD was referring to medieval times
But we're talking about the difference in terms of a modern setting, though: a stabbing spree versus a shooting spree.
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I wonder if the person was baited into doing this. We should be looking out for this mass stab baiter.
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I wonder if the person was baited into doing this. We should be looking out for this mass stab baiter.
(http://i.imgur.com/0FAmkU1.png)
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That book has been in my amazon cart for awhile, I definitely need to just buy it
Knife wounds are definitely better than bullet wounds. For that reason, medieval combat was actually more humane and less deadly than modern combat, at least according to Face of Battle.
Dunno about more less deadly, given the gangrene and diseases that decimated armies after battles. I'd probably rather be blown to smithereens than take an arrow wound and slowly die of an infection.
you know we can treat infections now, right?
I'm not talking about getting shot with an arrow in 2013, I'm talking about like War Of the Roses era warfare.
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missed that part
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Chalfan, who said he took a drama class with the suspect, described him as eccentric and a target for bullies. "He dresses weird, he wears gloves and often carried around toys like stuffed animals. He was a really friendly kid ... a joyful person."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/10/texas-college-stabbings-student-charged
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Chalfan, who said he took a drama class with the suspect, described him as eccentric and a target for bullies. "He dresses weird, he wears gloves and often carried around toys like stuffed animals. He was a really friendly kid ... a joyful person."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/10/texas-college-stabbings-student-charged
(http://tinyurl.com/dy47c8c)
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Chalfan, who said he took a drama class with the suspect, described him as eccentric and a target for bullies. "He dresses weird, he wears gloves and often carried around toys like stuffed animals. He was a really friendly kid ... a joyful person."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/10/texas-college-stabbings-student-charged
Need confirmation on whether any of the stuffed animals were of the equine variety.
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(http://i.imgur.com/KsZpwhK.jpg)
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Knife wounds are definitely better than bullet wounds. For that reason, medieval combat was actually more humane and less deadly than modern combat, at least according to Face of Battle.
Dunno about more less deadly, given the gangrene and diseases that decimated armies after battles. I'd probably rather be blown to smithereens than take an arrow wound and slowly die of an infection.
I don't think gangrene was that common until the invention of the musket which caused a lot of limbs to have to be amputated. If you have a large army marching around then obviously things like cholera and exhaustion will kill a lot of men before the battle.