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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: The Sceneman on May 15, 2013, 03:31:32 AM

Title: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: The Sceneman on May 15, 2013, 03:31:32 AM: just been playing Ikaruga and Guardian Heroes. These guys are like some of the best developers of all time, seriously. How did games make like this
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Trent Dole on May 15, 2013, 03:32:56 AM: I think before branching off into their own studio a lot of those duders made Super Castlevania IV. :bow
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2013, 03:35:03 AM: It's so hard for me to reconcile the fact that the same guy makes this thread, and then likes basically any game ever made.
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 15, 2013, 03:36:00 AM: Hey man it's not like Magus made the thread or something.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2013, 03:42:16 AM: Sceneman isn't a troll or idiot... he just is notorious for what I would consider crazily low standards.

...and then he hates on Skyrim.
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Post by: Himu on May 15, 2013, 03:51:36 AM: Really miss this company.
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Post by: magus on May 15, 2013, 07:51:04 AM: Quote from: Trent Dole on May 15, 2013, 03:36:00 AM
Hey man it's not like Magus made the thread or something.

:umad

anyway i really like their most kurazy wacky games (gunstar heroes,mischief maker) but never could get into the more serious stuff (sin & punishment)
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Post by: brob on May 15, 2013, 08:01:24 AM: People always wax poetic about Ikaruga or Radiant Silvergun, but where is the love for Gradius V? While Ikaruga has it's fanciful polarity switching (which more or less negates dodging) and Radiant Silvergun has it's fanciful anime story and wide weapon set, Gradius V is only a Gradius game trying to be the best little Gradius game it can. But it is very good at that. I think it's far more successful in reaching it's goal than either Ikaruga or Silvergun.

You can lock the options damn it it's like the best feature ever omg
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 15, 2013, 08:21:09 AM: Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on May 15, 2013, 03:42:16 AM
Sceneman isn't a troll or idiot... he just is notorious for what I would consider crazily low standards.

in everything
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: mjemirzian on May 15, 2013, 09:02:46 AM: Quote from: Brobzoid on May 15, 2013, 08:01:24 AM
People always wax poetic about Ikaruga or Radiant Silvergun
They look pretty and have obvious game mechanics that are easy to gawk at in a superficial manner. Not saying that they don't have depth and challenge, because they do, but only when you play them for high scores. CAVE shoot em ups are also frequently neglected alongside Gradius V.
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 15, 2013, 09:08:06 AM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6_XSCkoWlc

:bow
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Post by: tiesto on May 15, 2013, 10:38:03 AM: Sin and Punishment 2 is one of the finest games I played last gen. They have their misses (Stretch Panic, parts of Gunstar Super Heroes) but they are still one of my favorite companies...

Quote from: magus on May 15, 2013, 07:51:04 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on May 15, 2013, 03:36:00 AM
Hey man it's not like Magus made the thread or something.

:umad

anyway i really like their most kurazy wacky games (gunstar heroes,mischief maker) but never could get into the more serious stuff (sin & punishment)

Fighting the US military on top of a piece of an aircraft carrier that dizzily spins around, followed by a level taking place in a bug-infested version of the NYC subway (it's still shocking to me that Japanese people know what the hell Long Island is!), to defending Earth against an evil clone of itself... this is "serious stuff"? :P
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Post by: Don Flamenco on May 15, 2013, 10:47:16 AM: The Bleach DS games were pretty good, in addition to all this stuff.
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Post by: magus on May 15, 2013, 10:53:22 AM: eh but it's not "ride a cat who ride a missile while escaping from a werewolf on a motorcycle" level of stupid,and besides i just don't like game a-la starfox,the perspective really fuck with me and most of the time it feels like i'm zipping randomly on the screen

ikaruga is in the game that i don't get pile too,i tought being a classic sidescroller i would dig it but i played it for 10 minutes on GC and could never get past stage 2 because of those stupid moving thingie,i could have persevered but it sort of feels like those arcade gamey where you spend more time learning and dying than actualy playing and i just couldn't get into it... alas i will have to give up my hardcore gamer badge forever now :'(

one treasure game i always wanted to try but never could was silhouette mirage,was it any good?
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Post by: Himu on May 15, 2013, 11:52:25 AM: Gradius V is Treasure's best shooter.

That isn't Sin and Punishment 2 I may add. :P
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Post by: Steve Contra on May 15, 2013, 12:01:23 PM: I once missed a date with a girlfriend because I was playing Gradius V. Totally worth it.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on May 15, 2013, 12:08:23 PM: Quote from: magus on May 15, 2013, 10:53:22 AM
one treasure game i always wanted to try but never could was silhouette mirage,was it any good?

pretty decent but not as good as their more famous games. play the japanese version, U.S. version has changes that take away from the fun.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on May 15, 2013, 12:22:08 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 15, 2013, 09:08:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6_XSCkoWlc

:bow

:mouf
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2013, 12:56:57 PM: there's a grammatical error in your subject.

you should say, "Why was Treasure games so good"

also, I never played Radiant Silvergun, can you emulate the Saturn yet, it's 2013
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Post by: brob on May 15, 2013, 01:01:20 PM: I emulated Radiant Silvergun in 2009 or some shit. Seemed to run fine. Was never really all that fussed about that game tho.
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Himu on May 15, 2013, 01:04:37 PM: I don't like RS. :yeshrug Too obtuse. Have 9999 different weapons. I like my shooters simple and hard. :yeshrug
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2013, 01:05:28 PM: I feel like I should give it a whirl but it always seemed like I'd prefer Ikaruga and Gunstar Heroes anyhow
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Post by: Himu on May 15, 2013, 01:06:21 PM: Yeah, I prefer Ikaruga.

A really underrated Treasure title is Bangai-O Spirits. One of my favorite games for ds.
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Post by: tiesto on May 15, 2013, 01:09:03 PM: Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
there's a grammatical error in your subject.

you should say, "Why was Treasure games so good"

also, I never played Radiant Silvergun, can you emulate the Saturn yet, it's 2013

You can get a slightly enhanced version on XBLA for 800points.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 15, 2013, 01:09:05 PM: Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
there's a grammatical error in your subject.

you should say, "Why was Treasure games so good"

also, I never played Radiant Silvergun, can you emulate the Saturn yet, it's 2013

yes, Saturn emulation is solid these days. There's SSF and another one I'm forgetting. And Radiant Silvergun is on XBLA (PSN?).
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Post by: brob on May 15, 2013, 01:11:28 PM: does the xbla RS have all the anime bits or is it the arcade version?
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Post by: Steve Contra on May 15, 2013, 01:13:51 PM: Anime bits and all.

But seriously Gradius V>>>Ikaruga>>>>RS>>>>anything Nintendo ever made
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Post by: Himu on May 15, 2013, 01:15:54 PM: :bow SAKIMOTO :bow2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcVC5XY0OfA
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2013, 01:25:50 PM: man, Gradius V is so good

I ... don't have an Xbox. I guess if I can get XBLA on infiniloop
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Post by: brob on May 15, 2013, 01:33:32 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toRJMBUZqt4

Look at this competent motherfucker
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Post by: Himu on May 15, 2013, 01:40:15 PM: :leon

The realization that I will never, EVER be that good at a 2d shooter.
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Post by: Steve Contra on May 15, 2013, 03:40:31 PM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 15, 2013, 01:40:15 PM
:leon

The realization that I will never, EVER be that good at a 2d shooter.
But you have to ask yourself, is aspergers worth it?

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It is :'(
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Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Momo on May 15, 2013, 03:43:12 PM: No Gradius talk is complete without Teto Ran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhRD--xyeY

:bow
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: tiesto on May 15, 2013, 04:04:41 PM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 15, 2013, 01:06:21 PM
Yeah, I prefer Ikaruga.

A really underrated Treasure title is Bangai-O Spirits. One of my favorite games for ds.

I've had a lot of trouble getting into Spirits, but I loved the N64 and DC Bangai-O games. I wasn't too keen on the more puzzle-y aspect of Spirits or the XBLA game.
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Post by: Rufus on May 15, 2013, 04:10:29 PM: The controls are what got to me. I don't think I ever really understood them. Not that I tried very hard considering how far ("far") I got.
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Steve Contra on May 15, 2013, 04:24:24 PM: Quote from: Rufus on May 15, 2013, 04:10:29 PM
The controls are what got to me. I don't think I ever really understood them. Not that I tried very hard considering how far ("far") I got.
The controls in the XBLA game?
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Post by: Rufus on May 15, 2013, 04:27:56 PM: Nah, the DS one. Never played the XBLA version. I assume it's less convoluted with four shoulder buttons/triggers.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 15, 2013, 04:35:35 PM: didn't they make astro boy for gba as well?

that game was fucking tits
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: Positive Touch on May 15, 2013, 04:49:56 PM: GOD YES IT WAS

one of my favorite gba games easily.

this is a 5-star thread aside from shitting on rs. game wasnt perfect but it definitely is fantastic and stands up there with all of treasures other greats.
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Post by: tiesto on May 15, 2013, 11:05:57 PM: I may be one of the only people on the planet who actually liked Advance Guardian Heroes, though granted it's no where near a patch on the Saturn/XBLA game. Thought the counter added a nice dimension to the gameplay.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on May 15, 2013, 11:14:03 PM: I dunno if it was someone here who was pointing it out, but Treasure were huge fuckin fans of this game, THE CLIFFHANGER Edward Randy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N49AwwUQCO4
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Post by: Momo on May 15, 2013, 11:48:48 PM: This is how I chose to start my morning thanks to this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1piKGpZFWYk
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 16, 2013, 12:43:11 AM: are they working on anything now that's publicly known? I would think after this gen's success in porting their hits to XBLA and the original works they've made that they have some cash in the bank and at least something interesting in the oven.
Title: Re: Why is Treasure games so good
Post by: The Sceneman on May 16, 2013, 06:24:25 AM: Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on May 15, 2013, 03:35:03 AM
It's so hard for me to reconcile the fact that the same guy makes this thread, and then likes basically any game ever made.

lol

well I've more or less stopped paying shitty games now (not forcing myself to play Kinect dreck anymore). Last shitty game I played was Walking Dead.

Now I'm only playing awesome shit like CASTLEVANIA and GUARDIAN HEROES
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Post by: iconoclast on May 16, 2013, 06:48:11 AM: Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 16, 2013, 12:43:11 AM
are they working on anything now that's publicly known? I would think after this gen's success in porting their hits to XBLA and the original works they've made that they have some cash in the bank and at least something interesting in the oven.

Last year they announced that they were making a 3DS game.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on May 16, 2013, 08:16:58 AM: loving shitty games is highly underrated
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Post by: The Sceneman on May 17, 2013, 01:07:11 AM: I catch a lot of shit for it, so I'm trying to tone it down
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 17, 2013, 02:14:12 AM: Have to know what to blather about on here. I played Otomedius Excellent enough to be able to 1cc but didn't really mention it much at all. Also 1ccing that game isn't even remotely impressive, I can't do that shit with any of the bullet hell-y stuff.