What is this aboot?A phrase in a review of "the Last of Us." A similar comparison has been made before in reference to other games, such as Metroid Prime or Bioshock.
Call me when gaming has its Die Hard moment :rock
I'd bet good money most of the folks that toss around these "Citizen Kane" comparisons have never seen the film.
I'd bet good money most of the folks that toss around these "Citizen Kane" comparisons have never seen the film.
I'd bet good money most of the folks that toss around these "Citizen Kane" comparisons have never seen the film.
"Kane" a Baz Luhrmann filmI'd bet good money most of the folks that toss around these "Citizen Kane" comparisons have never seen the film.
I'm waiting for the remake. Hopefully, the title will be shortened to either being simply "Citizen" or "Kane."
I'd bet good money most of the folks that toss around these "Citizen Kane" comparisons have never seen the film.
I'm waiting for the remake. Hopefully, the title will be shortened to either being simply "Citizen" or "Kane."
Hearst Corporation has ties to the Gaming Illuminati
So exactly what would make a Citizen Kane moment for you guys in a game? IMO its the gameplay that would do it for me. I would say Expeditions Conquistador is coming close. But then a lot of games come close.
anybody who attempts to compare a video game to Citizen Kane is an asshole.Please either newsfeed this, or put it on the front page.
In other words, neither are videogames.
No, I deserve it. I'm the Citizen Kane of message board losers.
I never watched Citizen Kane, so whenever I hear reviewers throw that line around I go: "Wow, that good? Wait... I don't even get the reference." I wonder how many people out there are like that.
In other news I'm renting Citizen Kane this weekend from Amazon for 2.99.
I'm the Plan 9 from Outer Space of The Bore community.
I'm the Plan 9 from Outer Space of The Bore community.
Fine. But I got dibs on the title of being the Manos the Hands of Fate of The Bore.
I'm the Plan 9 from Outer Space of The Bore community.ooh, Can I be the Robot Monster? Or maybe The Violent Years! :hyper
Calling something that just came out the "Citizen Kane" of whatever subject you're discussing is absurd. Even Citizen Kane wasn't the Citizen Kane of movies until well after it had been released; much of its recognition as one of the greatest movies of all time didn't come until the 50's [an entire decade after it was first released].
I'm the Plan 9 from Outer Space of The Bore community.
Fine. But I got dibs on the title of being the Manos the Hands of Fate of The Bore.
I'm the Plan 9 from Outer Space of The Bore community.
It reminds me of crazed comic book geeks in so many ways that it's not even funny. Most people are cool with comics and videogames from my experience, it's just that the stigma stems from one thing and one thing only: being a creepy self obsessive nerd. Creepy self obsessive nerds don't realize that nobody actually hates them for liking videogames, but cause they are creepy and obsessive about it. And they think "legitimizing" videogames would suddenly make their dads less disappointed in them and have women fling their panties in their direction. While I do think games can be considered art, the whole "Videogames are art!" argument obviously wreaks of nerdlingers trying to justify all the wasted time. It's the main reason most human beings either don't care or don't take it seriously.
Im the Brian Flanagan of the Bore.
:deadIm the Brian Flanagan of the Bore.
You can get away with a lot more on this forum if you were its Chinatown
Polygon 7.5/10
Gamespot 8.0/10
I guess you can't be the Citizen Kane of gaming just because your game runs at 24 frames per second.
I've always had a hard time reconciling the disparate nature of a video game's narrative and it's systems. Tomb Raider with it's Deer Kill™ for instance, which implies that Lara needs to eat to survive - which would have been a narrative element expressed systemically - is just a video where Lara takes a life for the first time and cries about it to set up the two hour arc to her becoming a walking ice-pick & bow massacre machine. Then you massacre for four more hours I guess? I've always found that resource management games are very good at telling stories so I was disappointed Tomb Raider didn't bother. The Void (my avatar) does this nicely. Everything in that game is tied to expendable (and continuously depleting) resources, it gives the game a sense of this creeping need to be productive, to scour for more resources, to be careful about using them, but always press forward in fear of running out. This is supported by the narrative presented in videos and dialog and it works together wonderfully.
The Void is kinda difficult to get into however, so let's use more recent, simpler games to state the same example: Cart Life let's you play as a immigrant coming to America trying to make a living running a small business. In the case of the demo you play as a dude setting up a newspaper stand. You have to pay for the stand, your rent, your newspapers, set prices, you have to small talk with customers, give them the accurate amount of change, if you want you can sell coffee which requires you to go get a coffee pot, coffee and cups at the store and of course set the price of coffee. Papers, Please is another indie game that posits you as a clerk at a border checkpoint and you have to do the menial tasks you assume a border checkpoint clerk does. It is also a great with it's narrative for the same reasons as Cart Life.
All of this amounts to games where you feel much more connected to whatever it is that is going on in the game and the stories that are told there.
Another note is how strange it is that Bioshock(1) was credited with this grand deconstruction of player agency, something that Half-Life 1 tackled back when I was still struggling to tell time on a analog watch. Half-Life only beats you over the head with this message a couple of times though, maybe players needed Bioshock to beat them into pulp before they figured out that video games are restrained by the design of the game, I dunno. People who play video games are dumb, I guess.