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Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: ManaByte on June 05, 2013, 10:23:28 AM
The Last of Us

Empire Magazine 5/5

IGN 10/10

GameZone 10/10

OPM 10/10

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Polygon 7.5 (for now...)
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: archie4208 on June 05, 2013, 10:24:21 AM
Polygon 7.5/10

Gamespot 8.0/10
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: ManaByte on June 05, 2013, 10:26:55 AM
Edge 10

Everyone who matters is giving it a 10.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2013, 10:32:10 AM
:zzz
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 05, 2013, 10:32:46 AM
lol Polygon, good luck dealing with that backlash.   


won't buy right away, but will buy eventually
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: ManaByte on June 05, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
lol Polygon, good luck dealing with that backlash.   


won't buy right away, but will buy eventually

That's why they have an adjustable review score. They can raise it when people start bitching!
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 05, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
cant wait to taste the bores salty tears as naughty god drops another critically acclaimed megaton on the game

:heh


No salty tears here...straight 10s just means it'll take a month and a half for the real criticisms to pop up, versus a couple weeks. 

the gaf thread is all "Citizen Kane Achieved!11"  lol  they just don't get it. 

And game reviewers are just as interested in finding this Citizen Kane.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: maxy on June 05, 2013, 10:59:52 AM
Gamespot 8/10

lmao

gamefaqs will be fun to troll
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2013, 11:01:12 AM
:bow Based Naughty God :bow2

Ken Levine suiciding, Bioshock Infinite reduced to Birth of a Nation of videogames. Metroid Prime reduced to old-timey crank handle peepshow of videogames.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: magus on June 05, 2013, 11:10:25 AM
Gamespot 8/10

lmao

gamefaqs will be fun to troll

reading the comments on the review i can already see the fall of the civilization :usacry
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: maxy on June 05, 2013, 11:24:08 AM
Gamespot 8/10

lmao

gamefaqs will be fun to troll

(http://i.imgur.com/PN3c5JS.jpg)

Now cry you little green bitch.
Sony money must be good.

Gamespot 8/10

lmao

gamefaqs will be fun to troll

reading the comments on the review i can already see the fall of the civilization :usacry

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At this rate there will be more comments than Wii U's sold.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 05, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
I really like nd and even I'm skeptical of all this.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: ManaByte on June 05, 2013, 12:08:54 PM
lol Polygon, good luck dealing with that backlash.   


They just ban the backlash:
https://twitter.com/RealityPales/status/342300312448663552
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 05, 2013, 12:15:57 PM
Isnt Polygon that MS blog?

Ill wait for the FULL HD DIRECTORS CUT on PS4 btw.

Who to trust, Polygon or Edge magazine... HMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
I really like nd and even I'm skeptical of all this.

I'm the opposite way.  The reviews don't mean much to me, but since it's ND I'm sure it'll at least be an enjoyable game worth a play.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: brob on June 05, 2013, 12:32:45 PM
Your AI partner can't be detected by enemies. Following Bioshock Infinite who had an invincible little lady AI partner, I'm starting to think everyone in the industry pools their money for focus tests.

Anyway, game looks like a good evening's worth of popcorn. I'm hearing about double digit hours and that's kinda heavy for popcorn, but maybe I can put it on easy and breeze it in five or six.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 05, 2013, 12:36:04 PM
I'll def get this. Looks great.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Diunx on June 05, 2013, 12:43:31 PM
Not to be a grammar Hitler but you spelled Naughty Gods wrong on the thread tittle.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 05, 2013, 12:56:32 PM
Not to be a grammar Hitler but you spelled Naughty Gods wrong on the thread tittle.

Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac?

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He stayed up all night wondering if there was a dog.
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 05, 2013, 12:57:13 PM
Everyone who matters

c'mon, son, you know better than that
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2013, 12:59:09 PM
Your AI partner can't be detected by enemies. Following Bioshock Infinite who had an invincible little lady AI partner, I'm starting to think everyone in the industry pools their money for focus tests.

No one likes escort missions, and if your entire game is an escort mission then GTFO.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 05, 2013, 01:01:27 PM
Yeah if this whole game was en escort mission with a partner that can die then no thanks.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Steve Contra on June 05, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
Getting this for free :yeshrug
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 05, 2013, 01:20:49 PM
I'm getting a different game for free. :expert

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But Last of Us? Next best thing (http://www.redbox.com/games/last-of-us-ps3).
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2013, 01:21:48 PM
I'm getting a different game for free. :(

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But Last of Us? http://Next best thing (http://www.redbox.com/games/last-of-us-ps3).

That's only a 9.6 game, how disappointing.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mupepe on June 05, 2013, 01:25:11 PM
Is anyone surprised?  Uncharted is the fucking shit too. 
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 05, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
Is anyone surprised?  Uncharted is the fucking shit too.

Uncharted 2 was the shit. Uncharted 1 was cool. Uncharted 3 sucked big donkey balls.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Momo on June 05, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
Always planned on getting this. As with mot games though, I will wait till the price is right.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 05, 2013, 01:28:23 PM
Is anyone surprised?  Uncharted is the fucking shit too.

Uncharted 2 was the shit. Uncharted 1 was cool. Uncharted 3 sucked big donkey balls.

Yeah, actually, the fact Uncharted 3 was so bad has me interested in Last of Us (because clearly the UC2 A-team got moved to Last of Us immediately)
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 05, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
Uncharted 2 is one of my fave games this gen, so it's enough to let me give this a shot.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Purple Filth on June 05, 2013, 05:50:59 PM
Keplek and Sterling gave it full marks?  :o

Is anyone surprised?  Uncharted is the fucking shit too.

Uncharted 2 was the shit. Uncharted 1 was cool. Uncharted 3 sucked big donkey balls.

Yeah, actually, the fact Uncharted 3 was so bad has me interested in Last of Us (because clearly the UC2 A-team got moved to Last of Us immediately)

That is what exactly happened iirc. The director of this game and some of the staff went to this right after Uncharted 2 so they apparently wouldn't get bored.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
Getting this for free :yeshrug

It's coming on PBS Masterpiece Theater?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: bork on June 05, 2013, 06:14:18 PM
I tried the demo yesterday.  It's like a slower-paced Uncharted 2: Survival Horror Edition. 

I suppose I should be hyped, but I'm just not for some reason.  I'd rather have more Drake n' Sully.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: pilonv1 on June 05, 2013, 07:42:05 PM
Edge 10

Everyone who matters is giving it a 10.

Edge hasn't mattered since 2004.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2013, 09:39:34 PM
Man, fuck GAF. I spent a lot of time on this AAA post of the year, and I got no likes. GAF is like the Polygon of forums.  :maf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61488617&postcount=6088
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Trent Dole on June 05, 2013, 10:41:29 PM
Wait, Naughty Dog made this?
(http://i.imgur.com/tJnOjvM.jpg)
:teehee
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 05, 2013, 11:27:51 PM
Wrath, this is already being sold in the Middle East. Grab your copy and post impressions, breh. I'll act all cool and publicly shrug your impressions off but I'll really be listening.

Meanwhile, I just preordered this from Amazon. It should be here on launch day.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Damian79 on June 05, 2013, 11:41:39 PM
I dont understand why people have so much faith in reviewers.  This game really does nothing new except maybe ai from the reviews i read.  But there are probably a dozen or so issues not mentioned.  Like Zelda getting 99% on metacritic.  How on earth that game can get a perfect score is beyond me with its bland barren landscape.  It is a good game dont get me wrong but a 8 or 9 out of ten is much more apt for Zelda OoT.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Barry Egan on June 05, 2013, 11:50:35 PM
and what's the deal with airplane food?  I mean, am I right folks?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 05, 2013, 11:50:38 PM
Wait, Naughty Dog made this?
(http://Saints Row 4)
:teehee

Yeah, I'm sorry. I for the life of me can not care about SR4. I loved 2 and liked 3, but nothing about 4 excites me.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 05, 2013, 11:53:13 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry. I for the life of me can not care about SR4. I loved 2 and liked 3, but nothing about 4 excites me.

 :mindblown
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: bork on June 06, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
Wait, Naughty Dog made this?
(http://Saints Row 4)
:teehee

Yeah, I'm sorry. I for the life of me can not care about SR4. I loved 2 and liked 3, but nothing about 4 excites me.

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt108/miscbrahgav/rkelly.gif)
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 06, 2013, 12:23:20 AM
Everyone who matters

c'mon, son, you know better than that

does he?

does he really?

Yeah, I expect you're right :shaq2
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 06, 2013, 02:08:31 AM
Is this coming to PS4? :-[
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: SantaC on June 06, 2013, 03:59:25 AM
Yawn american media overrates another american game.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 06, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Edge and Eurogamer are American  ???
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: SantaC on June 06, 2013, 05:37:36 AM
man, you are the *last* motherfucker to be calling people out for promoting games for patriotic reasons.

in a couple of weeks people will say that this game wasnt worth all the hype. Make no mistake, there are western media bias these days.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 06, 2013, 07:39:13 AM
Was gonna download this but decided to just grab the disc since i dont wanna put 35gigs on my ps3.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 06, 2013, 07:41:09 AM
Gamespot 8/10

lmao

gamefaqs will be fun to troll

http://i.imgur.com/PN3c5JS.jpg

Now cry you little green bitch.


:lol
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 06, 2013, 07:46:13 AM
Your AI partner can't be detected by enemies. Following Bioshock Infinite who had an invincible little lady AI partner, I'm starting to think everyone in the industry pools their money for focus tests.

No one likes escort missions, and if your entire game is an escort mission then GTFO.


Yo, RE4 let your partner get hurt and it totally worked.

That's all I'm sayin'! 


 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
Your AI partner can't be detected by enemies. Following Bioshock Infinite who had an invincible little lady AI partner, I'm starting to think everyone in the industry pools their money for focus tests.

No one likes escort missions, and if your entire game is an escort mission then GTFO.


Yo, RE4 let your partner get hurt and it totally worked.

That's all I'm sayin'! 


 :yeshrug

RE4 worked because you could just make Ashley hide in a trash can while you killed all the monsters.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 06, 2013, 09:10:50 AM
not always and you can't tell me that having to stash her somewhere didn't ratchet up the tension. 

instead, you're gonna have some big fungus monster clip through Ellie, who is standing there staring, to get to Joel. 
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 08, 2013, 07:00:58 AM
Have to say im mad jelly wrath.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
My jimmies are rustled.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 08, 2013, 09:23:59 AM
Supposed to be a 'merican game, why them ay-rabs get it first?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2013, 09:24:21 AM
Supposed to be a 'merican game, why them ay-rabs get it first?

Thanks Obama!
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: demi on June 08, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
I already read the ending. Meh
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 08, 2013, 11:10:38 AM
It's fun. I'd give it an 8/10 so far. As far as game of the generation goes not even close, not at all. Unsurprisingly the reviews for the game jerked off to it for all the wrong reasons and overrated those reasons.

 :obama
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: magus on June 08, 2013, 11:31:56 AM
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It's fun. I'd give it an 8/10 so far.

8/10? cancelling my bore subscription right now! :maf
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 08, 2013, 01:01:11 PM
Supposed to be a 'merican game, why them ay-rabs get it first?

We get most games early, especially Sony Games. I got Killzone 2 three weeks before it was released officially(too bad it sucked) and inFamous about two weeks before it came out officially.


:usacry

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It's fun. I'd give it an 8/10 so far. As far as game of the generation goes not even close, not at all. Unsurprisingly the reviews for the game jerked off to it for all the wrong reasons and overrated those reasons. In the end it's a really fun "survival" stealth game that I'll probably beat and enjoy enough to go back to at some point.



This is about in line with my expectations, after filtering reviews for comments about how emotional the reviewer got because he forgot to take his meds or critically think at all.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: magus on June 08, 2013, 08:06:34 PM
My opinion on the game sort of dampens as I keep playing. Everything it does it's adequate at doing but rarely gets above said adequacy. Nothing about it sticks out at all. I can see many people here either being extremely disappointed or discarding it completely from their brains after they're done with it.

It's still fun, but not fun enough if that makes sense. That 7.5 score sort of hits the mark for me.

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Naughty Dog’s Max Dyckhoff (Programmer), Doug Holder (Visual Effects Artist), and Reuben Shah (Environment Artist) conducted an IAmA on Reddit today where they shared some intriguing details about the highly praised, The Last of Us, as well as their thoughts about the PS4, the chances that we’ll see Nathan Drake in the future and Polygon.com’s critical review of The Last of Us.

Ahead of the release of The Last of Us reviews have been extremely glowing. Programmer Max Dyckhoff stated that he was up until the wee hours of the morning refreshing this Neogaf review thread anticipating any leaked reviews. Among the dozens of critiques The Last of Us has received this week, Polygon’s 7.5 score may be the most talked about.

When the question was raised about the review during the IAmA, Doug Holder and Reuben Shah’s response to the opinions expressed by Polygon were pretty classy:

Holder: “I like what was said in the text. The reviewer seemed to be emotionally impacted by the experience of the game and the result was that it was not fun for them. By “not fun” I took that to mean it was difficult to experience some of the things in the game and it left a big impact on them emotionally and that wasn’t their cup of tea.”

“They maybe expected something more uplifting and the reality of our vision in this post pandemic world is just not so. Human nature is a scary thing. The reality of such a world would “not be fun”. A perfect score would have been lovely but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that’s important to us.”

Shah: “Everyone is entitled to their view… even if it’s not what we want to hear/read.”

On the subject of the PS4, Max Dyckhoff had this to say:

“I think the PS4 is pretty awesome. I actually know very little about it, been too busy working on TLOU, but what I saw at the announce makes me excited.”

“I am super excited about the PS4,” he added in a separate response.”The announce back in February was new to me as everyone else. The hardware is bad ass, the games they showed look beautiful, and I have a lot of confidence in what will be shown at E3.”

Lastly, even though The Last of Us is just over the horizon, the Uncharted trilogy remains on the minds of many fans. A Reddit user asked, “Will we see Nathan Drake any more?” Dyckhoff responded.

Max Dyckhoff: To be determined!

you are just so emotional wrecked you can't see the truly beauty of the game :(
Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 09, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
Wrath, all I need to know is this: is it better or worse than U2?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Yeti on June 10, 2013, 12:10:13 AM
This thread is just making me want to go back and play some Uncharted
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 01:18:25 AM
This thread just makes me want to play more animal crossing. I think I will.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 10, 2013, 01:35:20 AM
This thread just makes me want to play more animal crossing. I think I will.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LTBQDOD4pNc/TrtNicXtLZI/AAAAAAAAANI/LeM-MNoWOfY/s1600/paterno_medium_medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 10, 2013, 01:40:22 AM
Dude, I know women with better taste in games.  Real talk.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2013, 01:45:58 AM
Show them animal crossing and you'll get laid.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 10, 2013, 02:11:54 AM
Played the demo on the GoW Ascension disc, it's good. I like how the combat is somewhat randomized, enemies come at you from different directions and with different weapons.

Disappointing to hear that you eventually get overloaded with ammo and goodies and it turns into a shootout. I suppose they need something like "Ranger Hardcore" mode (thinking Metro Last Light).
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: brob on June 10, 2013, 02:54:42 AM
supposedly the difficulty selection goes easy, normal, hard, survivor. Supposedly x2 damage and hit points are unaffected by difficulty selection, implying that the primary difficulty increase is a tighter strain on your resources.

maybe that works out and the game is fun. :doubtful
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Huff on June 10, 2013, 11:25:16 AM
wrath what difficultly did you play on?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Third on June 10, 2013, 05:08:52 PM
Finished it today. One of the best games I've ever played. Not joking.

I thought the praise for Uncharted 3 was a bit overblown. It wasn't that good

But this? Oh man... Naughty God indeed.
Went in with great expectations. The game delivered and more.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: chronovore on June 10, 2013, 08:02:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMO2_Y-CMAALltQ.jpg:large)

Just got some coffee ready and about to dive in.

All 'dat sand...
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 10, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Haha, so true. God I'm so homesick these days.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shadow Mod on June 10, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Animal Crossing talk

wait the fuck happened to :scust?

God damnit.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: chronovore on June 10, 2013, 08:15:13 PM
Haha, so true. God I'm so homesick these days.

When I got homesick, I played Red Dead Redemption, as it is the very picture of the American southwest.

Maybe you could play some Garshasp?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Powerslave on June 10, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
From the people who brought you "Shoot 400 armies in the jungles with some dude who looks like he just got done shopping his clothes at H&M" ......here is gaming's Citizen Kane
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 10, 2013, 08:21:16 PM
Haha, so true. God I'm so homesick these days.

When I got homesick, I played Red Dead Redemption, as it is the very picture of the American southwest.

Maybe you could play some Garshasp?

No lie. Sometimes I boot Journey and get misty eyed.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: bork on June 13, 2013, 02:07:34 PM
After all the E3 stuff, I forgot this was even coming out tomorrow.   :lol
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
My copy shipped so i'll be playing tomorrow.

Today I'll be downloading Uncharted 3 as a primer.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 13, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
Gonna pick this up tomorrow. I've got a $50 Fred Meyer gift card, and it's probably the only game I want this summer that they'll actually carry (ie. Killer is Dead, Dragon's Crown, Tales of Xillia).

My copy shipped so i'll be playing tomorrow.

Today I'll be downloading Uncharted 3 as a primer.

Uncharted 3 is shit. AVOID.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2013, 02:25:22 PM
shrug, it's free.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: PigSpeakers on June 13, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
shrug, it's free.

I didn't think it was that bad. Just more of the same basically. And it was too short. I bought it full price, so if it's free it's worth it. You could do a lot worse for free.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 13, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
If it's free, by all means play it. And shit is probably a strong choice of words. I felt that it was short, highly repetitive and uninspired, especially after Uncharted 2.

The heaping amounts of praise that it received from the GAF crowd was undeserved, though.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 13, 2013, 03:02:12 PM
I really don't think Uncharted 3 is a bad game at all. It's pretty good honestly, it just does nothing new and great after 2. It's more UC2, but done a bit worse.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 01:32:02 AM
Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

:dead
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 14, 2013, 01:44:09 AM
Yeah, U3 is not bad if you liked U2

The dream sequences were terrible but when are those ever good?

The one aspect of gameplay that was noticeably worse was stealth but you don't really need to use stealth in Uncharted


Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 14, 2013, 01:46:49 AM
Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

:dead

sounds a lot like what our crazy sand nicca said, just with a lot more verbosity
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 14, 2013, 01:47:20 AM
Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

:dead



 :heh
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 14, 2013, 01:49:56 AM
From the comments section.
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GUYS STOP COMMENTING ON THIS SITE. HE WANTS HITS AND LOTS OF COMMENTS, JUST IGNORE HIM AND MOVE ONE.

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Complete garbage review, at least the gameplay gives you a choice of how to play unlike most of the mediocre borefests out there these days (COD).
Totally undeserved score, find another career please!

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Turgid stealth shooter? That's how the game is supposed to be played, you mother f**ker. It supposed to add a sense of weight and wobbly-ness to Joel's character, it add tension and desperation in battle. Black Ops 2 is shitty with shitty monotonous gameplay running around and doing nothing but shooting generic enemy AI, with shitty graphics and shitty storyline.

What kind of a review is this? You're supposed to be professional and not try to bash on the game with rants and hatred just because you didn't find the gameplay to your liking. Here's an advice, you mother f**king fool, stick to monotonous boring shooters, while we'll stick to masterpieces.
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I bet this taco played the game all guns-blazing and crap. What an idiot. Piss poor reviews like this will always ruin great games.
It's pretty amazing how much people get invested in these games. Games they probably haven't played.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 14, 2013, 01:52:06 AM
only cuz it's an exclusive
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: pilonv1 on June 14, 2013, 02:05:11 AM
Tom Chick single handedly dropped the game's average from 96 to 95...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/06/12/the-last-of-us-has-real-heart-but-not-much-else/

6/10

:dead

:bow Tom Chick :bow2

Not his fault metacritic can't convert his scale properly
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 14, 2013, 02:30:44 AM
I kind of like the superplay solution to most difficulty issues in games like these. If the player gets stuck just offer to play through the section for them, keep the story moving and such.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 14, 2013, 07:46:29 AM
Be warned apparently there's a save bug in this game related to auto-save. Eventually it will get stuck auto-saving and you'll lose progress.

When you start a new game, it will ask you to choose a save slot. Hit O to cancel and it will turn off auto-save. From there you will have to manually save every time you quit the game.

Sucks but thems the breaks sometimes.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 14, 2013, 07:49:33 AM
But now there's some people saying that it actually IS saving but you have to go to "Load" instead of "Continue" when starting your game up again. I'm just gonna manually save to risk anything.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 14, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
10/10

auto-save issues are by artistic design.  They are doubling the emotional impact by making you play through things twice.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 14, 2013, 11:07:07 AM
Well I guess I'll just play Uncharted 3 until they patch it.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2013, 12:13:56 PM
That sucks about the bug.

Picked up the game this morning at Fred Meyer. You get a $5 giftcard with it.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2013, 12:14:43 PM
Can't you manually save?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 14, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
From the gaf thread, the only workaround is to play offline. Don't sign into PSN at all.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
https://twitter.com/Naughty_Dog/status/345585713372352512

Patch incoming. Naughty Gods redeemed. :bow2
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 01:18:50 PM
Awesome. And right before I start playing.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2013, 01:48:32 PM
Just played for around 45 mins, through the prologue and a bit into the first segment. I liked the opening a lot - although it's nothing you haven't already seen in a dozen zombie movies. Voice acting's really good, and the dialogue sounds fairly natural so far.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
:rock Can't wait to get my copy.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: thisismyusername on June 14, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
Yeah, U3 is not bad if you liked U2

The dream sequences were terrible but when are those ever good?

The one aspect of gameplay that was noticeably worse was stealth but you don't really need to use stealth in Uncharted

Actually I didn't mind the dream sequences, they were kinda cool to wade through.

My biggest issue with Uncharted 3 is the story and lack of coherence. Oh, sure, I know the big bad is getting an artifact to try to rule the world but we don't really get motivation or anything like that.

While that complaint can be lobbied at Uncharted 2 as well U2 felt more "summer blockbuster" than U3 to where I could let that slide. U3 just doesn't have that feeling for me. It's pretty apparent the B-team worked on it.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 14, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
Yeah, U3 is not bad if you liked U2

The dream sequences were terrible but when are those ever good?

The one aspect of gameplay that was noticeably worse was stealth but you don't really need to use stealth in Uncharted

I did not like Uncharted 3. Didn't like it so much I never bothered to finish it. Uncharted 2 is a classic. 3 feels like rehash while focusing on the weakest elements of 2.

Just purchased Last of Us.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2013, 02:32:56 PM
I didn't like Uncharted 3 because large parts of it were "Battle Arena: Drake."

I did like the first bit with young Nate and younger Sully. I want a younger Sully game, where you can sleaze it up around the world.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 14, 2013, 04:49:44 PM
HD remake on PS4

Naughty Dog pls :-[
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2013, 05:02:28 PM
Hey Sony, thanks for the totally sweet shiny metallic Naughty Dog stickers instead of a manual!  >:(
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 05:03:32 PM
I was literally about to make the exact same post.

:rock Can't wait to get my copy.
Might have to come see that :uguu


*considers unbricking his PS3 for this*

You're welcome to come see at any time... and touch. :uguu
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2013, 05:05:08 PM
I was literally about to make the exact same post.

The case felt pretty light, so I didn't expect much, but wow. I expected more than that!
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 05:08:46 PM
It seems they're going with digital manuals going forward, which is a sad thing going into the new generation. While it's a purely psychological thing, as you've said, feeling the lightness of the case and opening it up to find nothing but stickers took some of the "newness" out of a full priced game.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2013, 05:16:27 PM
Why even bother with the stickers?

Posted on GAF about it, I wonder if I'll get attacked for it. :lol
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
15 minutes in and already overloaded with feels. :'(

I'm glad I haven't played a cinematic zombie game in... Forever it feels.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Yeti on June 14, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
I have fond memories as a kid of poring over instruction manuals on the ride home while waiting to play my new game. What do todays kids get to do, read the box cover?

edit: oh wait, I forgot about smartphones, they probably don't even feel that rush of anticipation in having a new game.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Opening was pretty great.

Game is pretty good so far.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
From the comments section.
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GUYS STOP COMMENTING ON THIS SITE. HE WANTS HITS AND LOTS OF COMMENTS, JUST IGNORE HIM AND MOVE ONE.

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Complete garbage review, at least the gameplay gives you a choice of how to play unlike most of the mediocre borefests out there these days (COD).
Totally undeserved score, find another career please!

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Turgid stealth shooter? That's how the game is supposed to be played, you mother f**ker. It supposed to add a sense of weight and wobbly-ness to Joel's character, it add tension and desperation in battle. Black Ops 2 is shitty with shitty monotonous gameplay running around and doing nothing but shooting generic enemy AI, with shitty graphics and shitty storyline.

What kind of a review is this? You're supposed to be professional and not try to bash on the game with rants and hatred just because you didn't find the gameplay to your liking. Here's an advice, you mother f**king fool, stick to monotonous boring shooters, while we'll stick to masterpieces.
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I bet this taco played the game all guns-blazing and crap. What an idiot. Piss poor reviews like this will always ruin great games.
It's pretty amazing how much people get invested in these games. Games they probably haven't played.
haha, they sound like "real hip hop fans" who champion Lupe Fiasco.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2013, 09:50:52 PM
From the comments section.
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GUYS STOP COMMENTING ON THIS SITE. HE WANTS HITS AND LOTS OF COMMENTS, JUST IGNORE HIM AND MOVE ONE.

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Complete garbage review, at least the gameplay gives you a choice of how to play unlike most of the mediocre borefests out there these days (COD).
Totally undeserved score, find another career please!

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Turgid stealth shooter? That's how the game is supposed to be played, you mother f**ker. It supposed to add a sense of weight and wobbly-ness to Joel's character, it add tension and desperation in battle. Black Ops 2 is shitty with shitty monotonous gameplay running around and doing nothing but shooting generic enemy AI, with shitty graphics and shitty storyline.

What kind of a review is this? You're supposed to be professional and not try to bash on the game with rants and hatred just because you didn't find the gameplay to your liking. Here's an advice, you mother f**king fool, stick to monotonous boring shooters, while we'll stick to masterpieces.
Quote
I bet this taco played the game all guns-blazing and crap. What an idiot. Piss poor reviews like this will always ruin great games.
It's pretty amazing how much people get invested in these games. Games they probably haven't played.
haha, they sound like "real hip hop fans" who champion Lupe Fiasco.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
Played two hours. Think this is pretty great.

I'm really bad at this whole stealth thing
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 14, 2013, 11:18:13 PM
The opening was strong, then I started playing the tutorial and felt an overwhelming feeling of familiarity, which dulled the experience for a bit. Now it's back to being interesting again, thanks to a vastly improved stealth over U2, but the gameplay and graphics aren't heads and shoulders over past ND games.

Though you can see that its pushing the console to its limits.

The story so far isn't out of the ordinary but good VA and feels are elevating it.

So far, and even though they're different type of games, I'm enjoying it as much as U2. Its just as tight with decent pacing.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2013, 01:14:45 AM
About an hour in and this is great.  One observation seeing as how it's been some time since I played a hollywood game on consoles: lots of detail and ND's craftsmanship feel wasted on the PS3.  It's a very nice looking game with some jarring technical shortcomings like the shaky frame rate and lack of, or insufficient, anisotropic filtering.  This is coming off like graphics fiend wankery.

An actual complaint about the game is that the controls aren't as tight as I'd like.  It's no different than the Uncharted games, only there you aren't worrying about ammo.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2013, 01:20:03 AM
Played two hours. Think this is pretty great.

I'm really bad at this whole stealth thing

Me, too. I usually get about two stealth kills and then walk right in front of the next dude.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2013, 01:22:17 AM

Though you can see that its pushing the console to its limits.

My poor 60GB sounds like one of those hand-cranked cars from the early 1900s :(
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2013, 01:31:29 AM
Played two hours. Think this is pretty great.

I'm really bad at this whole stealth thing

Me, too. I usually get about two stealth kills and then walk right in front of the next dude.

yeah, the one big encounter right after the tutorials, I really tried to do it all stealthy until the last guy randomly spotted me.  I kinda like that stealth isn't so clean.  Also like that regular take downs take a good 5 to 10 seconds.

Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2013, 01:35:33 AM
Played it for a few hours today.

I think its good but so far haven't been blown away by it. I guess I'm not seeing the OMG this is an amazing game sort of take. I'm still early though so maybe its keeps improving or something.

The game feels a little uncomfortable to me in that it wants to be experimental and deeper with crafting and such but it still feels like a very linear sort of big budget mainstream experience. Not that there is anything wrong with mainstream linear games but I don't think they quite go for it on the experimental side which I was kinda led to believe/was hoping for.

My first instinct was the gunplay was very bad. And then as you go on and realize its sort of that way on purpose so you don't go guns blazing into every encounter and just brute force your way through the game. The AI is fairly dumb but I also think that's on purpose so you can easily stealth around during combat and do silent takedowns from behind. And that's fun enough so far although I'm hoping it varies up the routine as I go on because 10 hours of the same stuff might start to wear on me.

I try not to judge a game on what it isn't versus what it but some of that keeps popping into my head. Like I wish the game was open world. It seems like you are on this journey but so far the world is no more expansive than Enslaved or something. This system felt fine in Uncharted because that game is really just a series of setpieces but this game is more going for the journey vibe but I feel like I'm going through this very linear constructed world and being told I'm going on a grand journey.

I'll stop there. Like I said I'm early so maybe some of this stuff is nitpicking or early observations that won't matter once I really get deep into the game. It's certainly fun enough so far and the world is interesting enough so its not like its unenjoyable or anything.

Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2013, 02:35:14 AM
Played 2 1/2 hours straight.  Game has really good pacing.  Can't think of the last time I played 1/4th of a game in the first sitting.  Also seems kind of super short going by completion percentage and how extremely linear and non-replayable it is.  If I didn't have other things to do with my life (including keeping a normal sleep schedule), I could see myself playing the whole game in one sitting.


I never watched any trailers so I had no idea what kind of game this was going to be besides "from the Uncharted 2 guys"; kind of neat that it's a stealth game.  Reminds me of a more mainstream Siren.  I like that you can't just fight your way through the areas (at least so far because of clickers) so you actually have to PLAY STEALTHY and sneak around using diversions and such.  Cool.  The story is also a little interesting (not super interesting because it's like every zombie apocalypse movie/series ever so far).  Also I like how the game has both stealth zombie sneaking and then FIGHTIN' DUDES UNCHARTED BUT CLUNKIER combat.  The combat vs. Humans is really visceral and kind of disturbing at least so far since they're just normal dudes trying to get a paycheck and you're bashing their heads in. 

The art direction is nice and the occasional music is good. 

On the downside, coming from Tomb Raider PC and E3 full of NEXT-GEN, the graphics are pretty underwhelming.  Low-res muddy textures and fairly average character models everywhere + 30fps and kind of meh HDR implementation.  It's been a little while since I played U2/U3, but I remember them being better lookers.  Also there's not a whole ton of story/dialogue so far and the gameplay is fairly basic and everything is super linear.  Seems like it'll be a fun ride, but hopefully it'll do some creative stuff along the way for the rest of it. 

Kind of feels like a lot more low-key game coming from Uncharted.  Instead of big action setpieces, it's like slow, sneaking stealth around a few enemies and a lot of walking slow.  I'd be surprised if the game had anywhere near the staff that the Uncharted games had; seems like a lower budget/smaller team effort.  Not that that's a negative thing.  It's cool, just I hope this game didn't have Uncharted 2/3 budget/team size/dev size because it's totally not showing in scale so far.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2013, 02:37:37 AM
Oh and I don't want to fault the game for not being something it's not trying to be, but man I wish they had tried to be a true horror game like Siren because the stealth vulnerability almost makes the game creepy but it just doesn't go that extra mile.  Could have been a really good unnerving Amnesia/Silent Hill/Siren scary game if they had wanted to push that angle.
Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2013, 02:38:37 AM
Music is awesome.
Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2013, 02:46:47 AM
And I like how this game is 20 years after the outbreak, with everyone already adapted to dystopian future. I'm rather sick of going through another breakout,
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2013, 02:47:31 AM
Yeah, and I want to give major credit to the sound design.  If the graphics are a little underwhelming, the sound is overwhelming.  Everytime I fire a gun it makes me feel uncomfortable.  It doesn't feel or sound like a shooter at all and I give them credit for that.  All the environment sounds and enemy sounds are great too.  It's a fantastic DTS mix sound effort.

And I like how this game is 20 years after the outbreak, with everyone already adapted to dystopian future. I'm rather sick of going through another breakout,

I agree but at the same time, the intro didn't really make it feel like it'd been 20 years.  Maybe 1-3 would be believable, but by 20 years I'd expect society to look like Half-life 2.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2013, 05:03:56 AM
Playing the Clicker stealth segment on Hard and with Listening Mode turned off is exhausting. I had to turn it off.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2013, 01:49:01 PM
Was able to play through the prologue this morning while my daughter was napping.

Speaking of that...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You know how they say becoming a parent changes you? I got teary eyed when Sarah died. Knew it was coming, still didn't help when she got shot by the soldier.

Totally never would've happened to me prior to having a kid. And yeah, Fuck you all.  ;)
[close]

Also, I think it's pretty clear from the game so far that Monsanto really is fucking evil.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 15, 2013, 02:02:05 PM
a monsanto angle to the story?   okay, interest rising a little. 

but i've missed launch, may as well wait till $40 or less after everyone rushes to sell off their copies after beating SP.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2013, 02:06:59 PM
a monsanto angle to the story?   okay, interest rising a little. 

Not really. They just mention in the prologue that
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The infection is tied to wheat. I like to think it's a jab at Monsanto and genetically modified foods.
[close]
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 15, 2013, 03:25:18 PM
Game is quality.

However I am not in love with it. I am finding some of the segments to be pushing me in a specific gameplay style which undercuts the notion that I can play stealthy or full combat. I do not like when the game forces me to kill a dozen dudes to proceed.

I also find the melee combat to be a bit clumsy at times.

I think Naughty Dog has almost created a game where killing humans is a pretty major deal. It's not quite there but it's one of the closest examples I've seen.

Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2013, 05:17:25 PM
I'm about halfway through now. I'll make one more post about the game after I'm done to sort of give my overall review. Right now I can say that its a good game but it's not close to game of the generation or anything for me at least. I have a sneaky feeling that in fact if another developer made this game, reviewers would be more critical of it on the gameplay side. They would say it has great voice acting, good immersion story wise but they wouldn't be giving it 10 out of 10's. I felt the same way about Uncharted 3 which was a much worse game than this but also got crazy good reviews. It's a solid good game by a solid good dev. I'm always happy to play those. But I think the hyperbole for what is here on the gameplay side is a bit much. (Not aimed at anyone here.) I'll go into more detail on the pros and cons rather than speaking generally when I'm done which will probably be Monday or Tuesday with the pace I'm on. 
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2013, 07:21:54 PM
yeah, i really like the music, that doleful southwestern guitar really sells it
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2013, 07:23:35 PM
also i was gonna download uncharted 3 and give it another chance since it's free on ps+, but then i saw 40gb and was all pffffffffffffffffffffffffft
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
40 gb?!?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2013, 07:35:08 PM
40 gb.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 15, 2013, 07:57:02 PM
apparently you dont have to download all of it. i think only around 25gigs? You need the multiplayer and the singleplayer and the 2d movies.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: chronovore on June 15, 2013, 08:22:59 PM
40 gb?!?

Downloading 40GB on Sony's network would take about 2 months, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2013, 08:23:42 PM
Can someone please buy Uncharted 3 on psn, download it, and see how long it would take to dl (and install!)? We need this answered for science.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
I'd do it, but I don't even have 40gb free. 120GB dirt person PS3, here.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 15, 2013, 09:44:52 PM
I'd do it, but I don't even have 40gb free. 120GB dirt person PS3, here.

I have a launch 60gb PS3
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2013, 09:49:11 PM
I have a launch PS3 (Slim).
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Post by: Purple Filth on June 15, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
its actually double so 80gb (until its installed)

unless it doesn't do that shit anymore

Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: chronovore on June 15, 2013, 11:43:21 PM
Was able to play through the prologue this morning while my daughter was napping.

Speaking of that...

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You know how they say becoming a parent changes you? I got teary eyed when Sarah died. Knew it was coming, still didn't help when she got shot by the soldier.

Totally never would've happened to me prior to having a kid. And yeah, Fuck you all.  ;)
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Also, I think it's pretty clear from the game so far that Monsanto really is fucking evil.

Yeah, being a dad, I notice I get more emotional during family movies. I've also found myself rooting for the death penalty for child molesters.
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Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2013, 02:12:25 AM
There are some neat, almost elegant touches to this game.  If you're silently taking out enemies, Joel will choke them all out except the last one, where he'll do a loud violent attack to inform the player that the encounter is over.  Normally games use an audio cue or a change of music to get the same point across.

And I can't tell if the aiming is intentionally bad or just plain bad.  "Steady aim" is an upgrade but the Uncharted games all had squirrely aiming.  Although there hasn't been much shooting in the ~4 hours I've played.
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Post by: Pachterballs on June 16, 2013, 02:58:08 AM
finished. GOTY. easily.

fuck its an incredibly mature game with a killer ending.

10/10
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 16, 2013, 04:32:45 PM
Finished.

I played on HARD with LISTEN MODE off. Completion time came to little over 13 hours.

My obsessive compulsive nature when it comes to stealth games took over a lot and i pretty much restarted the encounter if I got caught or fucked up too bad. I did that... a lot.

Game is definitely quite good. It tries its very best to be as mature as possible when it comes to dealing with a lot of the tropes it's presenting. It's mostly successful. One element I enjoyed was that the relationship between Ellie and Joel grew very slowly. They aren't chummy 3 hours in, or 5, or 7. It takes a very long time for Joel to open up and allow her in. And they don't force it down our throats IMO. It happens naturally.

I'm impressed that they were able to make gunfights have a lot of weight. Looking at the stats, I killed 528 people. That's a lot... dunno how that lines up with an Uncharted game but when playing you don't feel like you're mowing tones of dudes down. In fact I mostly stuck to avoiding combat if possible. And it wasn't always possible. I wasn't a fan if the segments where I was forced to kill everyone in an area to proceed. I think overall the game would have benefited from cutting a few of the smaller gunfights which would give the bigger ones much more impact.

Going off of that, it's REALLY weird that enemies (infected or humans) SOMETIMES ignore your companions. It's especially weird when you're in a stealth section and creeping along and Ellie will be hopping and running back and forth because her AI can't figure out where to rest. All that while a Clicker is just inches away. But then sometimes they aren't ignored and you have to protect them. I mean, i understand the balance. Especially during stealth. Having to worry about an AI player fucking things up would be really annoying, so they just make her invisible. Understandable, but still weird.

I absolutely loved the moments where you're walking through old houses, searching through cupboards and stuff. Really great design there that doesn't look fake.

Uh... I'm losing the thread here. It's got some problems and drags sometimes, but it's a great video game. One of the best this year if not the best.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 16, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
Oh and the ending is fantastic.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 16, 2013, 07:28:25 PM
I originally picked NORMAL and switched to HARD about 30 minutes into the game, now that I choose NG+ I only can choose Normal and it won't even let me switch to Hard now. Lame :(
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Post by: Shaka Khan on June 16, 2013, 09:54:20 PM
Fistful :bow
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Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2013, 12:25:22 AM
This game seems long.  Clock says I've played for nearly 8 hours and am only 49% complete.  The ND Uncharted games are 8 to 10 hours.  Both surprising for the length and how fresh it still feels.

So far the only section that bugged me was
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the super zombie boss battle in the school gym.  Joel's explanation is "that's what happens if you're infected for too long."  Up until then there's this great logic behind the zombies...then a Left 4 Dead zombie shows up and you gotta circle strafe to take him out  :-\
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Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2013, 12:27:57 AM
Why is there such disparity between how fast people are moving through the game? 

Does it depend on how stealthy you wanna be?
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Post by: Don Flamenco on June 17, 2013, 12:28:24 AM
Can someone please buy Uncharted 3 on psn, download it, and see how long it would take to dl (and install!)? We need this answered for science.

18gb for AE took about 3-4 hours, i think. 
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2013, 01:49:20 AM
Why is there such disparity between how fast people are moving through the game? 

Does it depend on how stealthy you wanna be?

Probably. The game is mostly walking around looking for scavenge materials followed by story cutscenes, followed by combat/stealth sequence. Repeat that cycle. The game tries to encourage you to play it stealthily and such but about halfway through the game I just mostly stopped doing that as the stealth stuff is frustrating with the mechanics in the game imo. It also cheats the stealth sometimes which is annoying. Blasting your way through is faster of course than creeping around every section and trying to backstab people. 

I think the game is of decent length no matter which route you take probably relative to most modern single player games that aren't big expansive affairs.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on June 17, 2013, 02:42:53 AM
I'm halfway through and stealth portions is possibly the biggest thing slowing me down but I don't mind. Playing on hard means you get fewer supplies so up until this I can't blast my way through even though I want to sometimes when my nerves can't handle the tension.

Everything in this game is depletable, not only your ammo, but your knife (shivs), you melee weapons (stick rods), and obviously other craftable items. And thanks to this the tension is even more enforced. My biggest gripes so far, which I've shared elsewhere, is exactly what fistful said: AI companions spazzing out trying to figure where to rest during stealth sections, to the point where they bump into the Clickers without alerting them. The reviews who rated the game lower than their peers due in part to this issue are justified; it can become jarring at certain points. At some point I just decided to let it go and stop considering the game as an uber realistic experience, but a game with hilarious unintentional missteps so I could enjoy it more.
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Post by: chronovore on June 17, 2013, 03:23:06 AM
There are some neat, almost elegant touches to this game.  If you're silently taking out enemies, Joel will choke them all out except the last one, where he'll do a loud violent attack to inform the player that the encounter is over.  Normally games use an audio cue or a change of music to get the same point across.

And I can't tell if the aiming is intentionally bad or just plain bad.  "Steady aim" is an upgrade but the Uncharted games all had squirrely aiming.  Although there hasn't been much shooting in the ~4 hours I've played.

Batman: Arkham City (and I think Arkham Asylum) also cut to a cinematic angle and bolder sound effects when taking out the last enemy in any area. It's great. Tomb Raider also did something along these lines, though it may have just been a music cue.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 17, 2013, 06:14:34 AM
Why is there such disparity between how fast people are moving through the game? 

Does it depend on how stealthy you wanna be?

I played full stealth. Dunno why it's taking so long for most people...
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 17, 2013, 09:41:03 AM
I wanna take some time and go through some of the really great moments from start to finish in a spoilery fashion.

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-The opening. Goddamn that opening. I replayed it and I noticed so many amazing touches. Like the walk animation of Sara when she first gets up, then when she see's the explosion outside she she starts to walk a little faster with more tension, then when she see's the police cars. it's such a little thing that they didn't have to do but it makes it all the more impressive. Just the fact that they have you play as the daughter is great. Then when you get in the car and turning your view around results in her actually adjusting in her seat like a child would. it takes a gameplay mechanic (spinning view around) and ties it to an actual conceit (a kid trying looking on in shock at what's happening around them). Then i couldn't believe how they portrayed the death of Sarah. It's not overthetop, she's not screaming 'daddy!!" or saying some dumb cliche line. it's just a brutal final moment where she's trying to cry but can barely get anything out. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in a video game.

-20 YEARS LATER. This is weird to me. The world they show doesn't feel like it's actually 20 years moved on. More like 5-10. I mean I can just accept it that in this context it wook a long time to get things up and running but I get the feeling things would have been much more structured than this. But again, I can accept this due to the context. Plus it's required for the Ellie character to exist.

-I like the fact that they setup that Joel is NOT  GOOD GUY. He's seen some shit in the last two decades. He's done some shit. He's killed some people. It reduces the cognizant dissonance that occurs when you're mowing down countless people. In Uncharted, Drake is this easy-going bro who is also a mass murderer. In TLOU, Joel is a harsh man who's done some harsh stuff who isn't afraid to put down some people.

-Tess. This is a weird character to me. It's weird she is only all into getting Ellie to the Fireflies for reasons other than gain after she gets bitten.

-I like that any and all "goals" in the game are yellow. The Capitol building, the Bridge, any ledges. I like that they even do things like, put a yellow construction sign on the wall near a ledge you need to climb. I

-The fucking humvee with the turret. I was SURE they would have me fight it in some arena and I'm glad they didn't.

-Bill, I assume everyone picked up on the fact that he's gay, right? I like they didn't make it a part of his character. He just is.

-Henry and Sam. I didn't think they would dispatch these guys so quick. The "I'm infected but hiding it" concept comes up but isn't a plot point. Sam turns over the night which creates a great moment with his brother. Was sad to see them go.

-The stealth in the game is well implemented and has a good feel to it. but FUCK Listen Mode. What a terrible idea. It completely breaks the game IMO. I immediately turned it off and switched the difficulty up to Hard. I ended up restarting a lot of encounters because I'm obsessive compulsive about stealth.  But I had a lot of fun maneuvering around the arenas and using the various tools to stealth kill enemies. My favourite is throwing a brick or bottle at their face then BUMRUSHING them.

-The entire arc at the hydroelectric dam resulted in one of my favourite character moments and it gives a really good insight into Joel at that point in the story. Joel isn't doing this for Ellie or for humanity. He's only doing this for Tess and you realize that being with Ellie hurts him more than he's letting on, because of his daughter. He simply does not want to allow that kind of relationship to form again because it will only end badly, re-enforced by what happened with Tess. "You're right you are not my daughter and I am not your dad" Chilling stuff.

-Going off of that. Bravo to Troy Baker. Dude is a monster and gives some amazing performances between this and Infinite. I will gladly accept a one Troy Baker nation.

-Was weird how they cross the country between scene cuts. I had a hard time understanding where in the country they were and then all of a sudden we're in Colorado. All that stuff with the horse and tracking through the college was really nice. And I really liked the little stealth section in the dorm building, was short and simple but tense as hell.

-I WAS SO SURE THERE WOULD BE INFECTED MONKEYS. Thank christ.

-This was one of the spots where the combat got a little draggy. But then it all became worth it when SHIT JOEL!! Naughty Dog are really good at giving the player control over a character who is badly wounded. And I think it was one of the other great character moments in the game. Joel is fucked and Ellie has to step up, and step up she most definitely does.

-Then HOLY SHIT you're playing as Ellie. That entire section where you're tracking the deer was really great. It's such a simple idea that's executed incredibly well.

-The stand-off section with the creepy dude David in the saw mill was fucking HARD. the hardest part of game. took me like 20 minutes to get by it.

-In concept, the back and forth between playing as Ellie and Joel as she escapes. The fact that SHE ESCAPES was impressive. Also, JOELS INJURY IS ACTUALLY RELEVANT. You don't move around as fast and your aim is noticeably worse. Ellie is just such fun to play as she's faster and has the insta kill after you stun an enemy and BOY is it brutal.

-The stand-off with David was a bit gamey with the broken glass in specific parts. However it was still a really tense moment. Especially on the third go where he's sneaking around himself. I could not imagine playing this part with LISTEN MODE on. Seems like it would make it way too easy.

-The giraffe moment. It's the most manipulative moment in the game. Still touching.

-The reveal that Ellie needs to die to "create the cure". It's cliche, and IMO this entire section is the most cliche. Thankfully it's handled with care so it doesn't focus on the notion of the cure but rather, Joel's decision to BECOME the father figure he previously rejected. Throughout this entire game he's literally just "the smuggler". When faced with this choice, us, or her, he makes the choice as the father to protect his "daughter". Ellie make it clear she doesnt want it to be for nothing, so would she have gone for it? Obviously she never had the chance to make that choice. It goes deeper still when she confronts Joel and asks him straight about it and he lies to her. Did she believe him in the end? It's subjective. I think that's the core of the story and I think it's important that we end it on that moment. The infection, the bandits, the "cure", none of that is really important in the end. The story is about Joel redeeming himself and getting over the past.
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phew, that was a lot. tl;dr etc.

Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 17, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
Well, the ending requires knowing what happens in the last hour or so before the actual ending.

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Joel and Ellie arrive at Salt Lake City to a hospital being used by the Fireflies for medical research. Ellie is knocked out when they are found and they knock Joel out too because they don't know who he is. When Joel awakes he is told they took Ellie to surgery because they need to basically pull out her brain (which is where the infected resides) for the purposes of synthesizing a vaccine (potentially). She's the only immune person ever found so they won't let her go and won't let Joel see her.

At this point Joel has fully accepted his roles as a FATHER FIGURE to Ellie and struggles with allowing them to sacrifice her. He manages to escape, sneaks/fights his way to the pediatrics surgery ward and free's Ellie. They manage to get to the basement when they are confronted by Marlene who tells Joel to think this through, that he can still be allowed to leave as long as he gives up Ellie. She goes on saying that this is what Ellie would have wanted.

The scene cuts to Joel in a SUV driving away from Salt Lake City. We aren't sure yet if Ellie is with him... then we hear here stirring in the back seat. She's been out due to the surgery drugs and doesn't know what's going on. She asks what happened in the hospital. Joel, knowing that Ellie would not approve of what happened, lies to her saying that there were plenty of other immune people there and that it wouldn't have made any difference for her to being there. Essentially saying that all this has been for nothing, something Ellie said she most definitely DIDN'T want to be the case.

During this we see what happened in the basement. Joel shoots Marlene in the stomach, puts Ellie int he back of the SUV, then goes back to Marlene. She begs him to spare her but he refuses, siting that they will come after them. He shoots her in the head.

The scene cuts to SPRING. They are back to the outskirts of Jackson City (where Joel's brother lives). Joel helps Ellie up on to a high ledge where she confronts him about the whole deal. She asks Joel directly if what he told her about the hospital and the Fireflies is true. After a brief moment Joel says yes, it is true, lying to her.

Ellie replies with "...Okay." in an accepting tone. However it's ambiguous if she actually believed him. The game then cuts to black as they make their way to Jackson City.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2013, 02:45:52 PM
So I beat it today. It's certainly a good game. Certainly a memorable game with memorable characters, great voice acting, and good world immersion. I just wish I liked it more for the actual gameplay part of the experience. 

The things I liked are pretty much everything I mentioned above. The story isn't especially original nor are the themes. It's a mix of Walking Dead & Children of Men but hey its post apocalyptic zombie world. It's hard to be especially original in that area. The pacing is very good. The game isn't very hard at least on normal difficulty which is a good thing. You are interested to play to the next bits to see what is going to happen story wise. From my perspective this is a game you play almost completely because of story or immersion, or characters and that is absolutely valid. My GOTY last year was probably The Walking Dead which is essentially a choose your own adventure visual novel. I found the last maybe 20% of The Last of Us overly melodramatic but that's just my take. You could argue the same about the Walking Dead.

I just don't like the gameplay offered in the last of us and by that I mean the stealth stuff and the actual shooting bits. The first few times you do it, it seems okay and its seems decently fun to throw bottles around and distract people and then flank them but very quickly it just became really tedious for me. Part of it is probably the fact that I'm not overly use to the PS3 controller. I mainly game on the xbox and I'm very used to that controller nowadays so that absolutely plays a little bit into my discomfort. But I didn't really have those problems with Uncharted. So I think a good portion of this is unique to this game. And the interesting bit is its a conscious design choice on Naughty Dog's part. I think the aim was to make the combat less glamorous and less easy so they intentionally make the gunplay funky and loose. And I can respect that from a design perspective but I just don't enjoy it from a playing the game perspective. The same with the stealth. There are clearly mechanics and things they could have done to make this better and more serviceable but once again I think they didn't on purpose to mostly go for a minimalist gritty approach. I understand it once again...I just don't like it. Halfway through the game I just started getting tired of the human and zombie encounters. They were something to be endured to get to the next area or the next piece of story or dialogue instead of something I actually enjoyed doing.  I felt like a good portion of the gameplay experience of this game is playing a b league Splinter Cell mixed with a b league shooter. Instead of that part of the game being immersive for me it was annoying. And there is a lot of it. The best I can say is at least it was relatively easy I guess.

That being said there are lots of and varied reasons to enjoy games. While I wish the game was mechanically fun to play there are lots of games that are good games beyond mechanics. Grand Theft Auto series springs to mind for instance as that game has always had bad controls and not by design. I think there is a slight difference because that series offers so much variety but still just to make a point not every experience is the sum of its mechanics. So I like the game. I think its almost certainly one of the better games of the year. I have a feeling it won't be the best game I play this year because of my personal reasons I mentioned above but I do think its a good and enjoyable experience. I probably like it similarly to the Dead Space series. Probably just a hair less.

I was interested in the multiplayer and will still give it a try but I have a feeling the mechanic issues will stop me from enjoying it as co-op or multiplayer experience are almost solely mechanic based.
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Post by: Huff on June 17, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
I've actually been enjoying the multi quite a bit. But I don't really play online games much. So take this with a grain of salt
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Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
Earlier I decided to commit and finish this game today, so I did.  It's long, varied, and expertly paced.  It's kind of amazing how talented Naughty Dog can be.  Like, I really enjoyed it, and while it might not have resonated with me as much as others, throughout I was marveling at the craft of it all.  The only part that I didn't care for, and I mentioned it before, is
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the section with Bill, particularly towards the end with the lame boomer boss battle and truck escort.
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My favorite section was probably
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the University.  Very little combat, just exploring and having this unnerving feeling the entire time--although the experience won't hold a second time through.
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Here's hoping Naughty Dog's PS4 game in 2015 2017 is gonna be as good as this or Uncharted 2.

On a scale of Man of Steel [Godfather of superhero movies] to Citizen Kane [Metroid Prime of film], I'd rate it a Zodiac.5
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Post by: Shaka Khan on June 18, 2013, 01:51:50 AM
The soundtrack is not only great, but it's available on Spotify for streaming.
 (http://open.spotify.com/album/2GFFxj8aR2XpwIMYanOPjh)
:noah
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2013, 09:24:15 AM
stumbled across Last Of Us porn :fbm
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 18, 2013, 10:56:19 AM
stumbled across Last Of Us porn :fbm

saw that coli thread too  :-[
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 18, 2013, 01:56:54 PM
Deez Last of Nuts :fbm
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Post by: Yeti on June 18, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
Blast of Butts
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Post by: demi on June 18, 2013, 08:09:24 PM
Mushroom Tips Everywhere
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 18, 2013, 08:13:13 PM
this game is dumb as rocks easy on Normal. Ammo is everywhere, enemies go down like chumps.

really pity anyone who decided to play on normal with listen mode turned on.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2013, 08:14:11 PM
Tried the multiplayer. It's weird in both some positive and really negative ways.

The controls still are bad. And made even worse by online lag. That alone will stop most people from playing it. It only has two modes of play and they are both version of team deathmatch. Nothing objective which is odd and kinda dumb imo.

There is some weird meta game on top of everything about having a faction and trying to get them supplies. It's mostly pointless and disappointing.


On the positive side its very tactical as you move slow, you shoot slow and inaccurately, and you can't really rambo it so much. You kinda have to stick together as a team and roll together and that aspect is so missing from most shooters nowadays that even though I don't like the mechanics of the game at all in multiplayer, I found it somewhat compelling just because of that aspect alone. It reminds me a little of a chunkier and slower gears of war on the mp side.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2013, 08:15:13 PM
this game is dumb as rocks easy on Normal. Ammo is everywhere, enemies go down like chumps.

really pity anyone who decided to play on normal with listen mode turned on.

That's the only way I could have tolerated the game. Playing on hard would have made the gameplay even worse to me.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 18, 2013, 08:17:29 PM
sucks to be you i guess. I would compare it to playing Rock Band on beginner. completely ruins the experience.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
sucks to be you i guess. I would compare it to playing [insert below par stealth game] on beginner. completely ruins the experience.

Fixed.

But to each his own.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 18, 2013, 08:22:47 PM
shrug. it's not a brag thing. just some games are meant to be difficult. it's like if you added in manual checkpoints and respawns into Dark Souls. It makes it easier and ruins the experience.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
shrug. it's not a brag thing. just some games are meant to be difficult.

Except in this case they made normal with that stuff so in their view as the default experience that's what they wanted their audience to experience.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2013, 08:26:09 PM
I play on easy and give zero fucks.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 18, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
they wanted people to experience the game, period. you can't say exactly which way they would prefer people to play. nobody can say that obviously. the various difficulties are for people who just don't care and if you're one of them, whatevs.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 18, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
Yeah I'm playing on easy and I find it somewhat difficult still. But I like a lot. The game is so good looking I wish I could zoom in/move around the camera during cutscenes like in MGS.  They clearly put a lot of effort in the game, so it would've been nice to see more.

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Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 18, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
guess i am pretty bomb ass at video games.  8)
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2013, 08:55:40 PM
You wouldn't watch Citizen Kane on Easy, would you?
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 18, 2013, 09:02:11 PM
You know?

I don't think I care for this game. It's just not very fun. Like I don't get whats supposed to be interesting are good here. The stealth is baby mode stealth. What I mean is that the stealth just seems to be "wait around and then knife a dude". Not stealth where I can play with the ai or partake in messing around with it or the games mechanics to do something stealthy. The story so far is meh and while I don't want spoilers, it's not like it's hard to figure out where it's going. And the gun stuff is unexciting.

Maybe I'm missing something. I'm playing on no
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Post by: Himu on June 18, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
You wouldn't watch Citizen Kane on Easy, would you?

 :lol
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 18, 2013, 09:24:12 PM
im up to bob the builder or w/e his name is the game is okay, i was expecting there to be alot less enemies, like as if enemies where actually harmful like in dark souls, not this unchartedbullshit.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2013, 09:25:40 PM
I play every game on easy and save my being a badass motherfucker for real life.  :mynicca
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 18, 2013, 09:37:54 PM
Games should have multiple difficulty levels to cater to different player skills and playstyles.

Also, there's no "one true way" a game is meant to be played.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: demi on June 18, 2013, 09:44:29 PM
they wanted people to experience the game, period. you can't say exactly which way they would prefer people to play. nobody can say that obviously. the various difficulties are for people who just don't care and if you're one of them, whatevs.

If they wanted people to experience the game, they might as well have just made it Heavy Rain. Sounds like thats what they really wanted anyway.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2013, 10:30:49 PM
Tried the multiplayer. It's weird in both some positive and really negative ways.

The controls still are bad. And made even worse by online lag. That alone will stop most people from playing it. It only has two modes of play and they are both version of team deathmatch. Nothing objective which is odd and kinda dumb imo.

There is some weird meta game on top of everything about having a faction and trying to get them supplies. It's mostly pointless and disappointing.


On the positive side its very tactical as you move slow, you shoot slow and inaccurately, and you can't really rambo it so much. You kinda have to stick together as a team and roll together and that aspect is so missing from most shooters nowadays that even though I don't like the mechanics of the game at all in multiplayer, I found it somewhat compelling just because of that aspect alone. It reminds me a little of a chunkier and slower gears of war on the mp side.

I came here to talk about the multiplayer but this sums up my feelings nicer than I could've.  Totally wasted potential.  And the decision to remove quick turn (back+X) is baffling; if anything you need it more in multiplayer.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2013, 10:41:26 PM
You know?

I don't think I care for this game. It's just not very fun. Like I don't get whats supposed to be interesting are good here. The stealth is baby mode stealth. The story so far is meh and while I don't want spoilers, it's not like it's hard to figure out where it's going. And the gun stuff is unexciting.

Maybe I'm missing something. I'm playing on normal.

It's a game that relies almost solely on immersion, and characters. If those aren't doing it for you then I can guarantee it doesn't get any better on the gameplay side.

But yeah I understand your opinion. I tried to get my nephew to play it and he tuned out almost immediately. And he's almost all about "fun". He doesn't care about story or games as art so for him there was nothing to see.

Not saying his take is the only valid one. Just that I can see how if the characters and voice acting aren't hooking you, then I can see why the experience can turn into a grind.

I've stated my opinion multiple times so I'll leave it as that.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 18, 2013, 10:43:08 PM
Games should have multiple difficulty levels to cater to different player skills and playstyles.

agreed.

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Also, there's no "one true way" a game is meant to be played.

highly disagreed
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
As far as the difficulty stuff of course all that stuff is obviously highly subjective. I mean there are some games I immediately turn to hard like some shooters especially if I'm serious about the game. Halo is famously known as a series that is "intended" to be played at a higher difficulty level than default. But what that really means of course is that for the "hardcore" that is what they want them to experience. But for joe normal six pack which is the overwhelming majority of the audience they set the default difficulty lower because they don't want him overly frustrated and they want him to see as much of the game as possible before he quits. So there is an intended way to play the game for normal consumers and its default. They specifically tune the game that way and a lot of careful thought goes into those decision. It's not just random choices. Which is not to say that it isn't great that devs give all kinds of options on difficulty nowadays and the ability to tune some stuff.

And I can say from first hand experience with some of the data in the past that its a very small subset of people who go into options and change difficulty or alter various options related to difficulty.     


There are also some niche games that are purposely tuned more difficult at default levels. But that's by design. They purposefully are designing their games that way for the niche and occasionally like in a case of From Software the title breaks bigger than they expected because of word of mouth and the game expanding beyond that initial targeted niche.

As a general rule there is probably a normal guy default and hardcore default at a bare minimum that most devs tune for.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2013, 11:05:09 AM
Stuck pretty early in the game. Suggestions?

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I'm in the Goldstone building/skyscraper where I've jumped down into an area (leaving Tess and Ellie on the above floor) with some runners and one clicker. I get that it's all about stealth, but every time I think I've picked off a runner in seclusion, I get swarmed by everyone else in the area.
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 19, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
Stuck pretty early in the game. Suggestions?

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I'm in the Goldstone building/skyscraper where I've jumped down into an area (leaving Tess and Ellie on the above floor) with some runners and one clicker. I get that it's all about stealth, but every time I think I've picked off a runner in seclusion, I get swarmed by everyone else in the area.
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Jump down and turn around. hide behind the cover on the right, a runner will stumble into the rooms to the left. go in and stealth kill. turn around and go back to where you were and look for the to the opening to the left. a runner in swat gear will move to the middle of the room. stealth kill him. to the left from there is a clicker which you can ignore. back where you came and down the hall to the right a runner stumbles around the big room with the step up to the second level. stealth kill him.

leaving the clicker and one final runner. you can deal with them anyway you want.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2013, 12:46:33 PM
Man, that part where you're

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hanging upside down
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can go superfuck itself. As if the aiming isn't bad enough already.

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That fucking clicker wearing the body armor has killed me half a dozen times because I can't get a bead on his head.
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 20, 2013, 02:19:16 AM
This game is starting to piss me off. It's going way too slow, and any quick approach to encounters I take end up being suicidal. I'm /]this[\ close to switching to easy or something.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: PigSpeakers on June 20, 2013, 03:52:28 AM
Stuck pretty early in the game. Suggestions?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm in the Goldstone building/skyscraper where I've jumped down into an area (leaving Tess and Ellie on the above floor) with some runners and one clicker. I get that it's all about stealth, but every time I think I've picked off a runner in seclusion, I get swarmed by everyone else in the area.
[close]

Jump down and turn around. hide behind the cover on the right, a runner will stumble into the rooms to the left. go in and stealth kill. turn around and go back to where you were and look for the to the opening to the left. a runner in swat gear will move to the middle of the room. stealth kill him. to the left from there is a clicker which you can ignore. back where you came and down the hall to the right a runner stumbles around the big room with the step up to the second level. stealth kill him.

leaving the clicker and one final runner. you can deal with them anyway you want.

That's almost the exact way I did it. I died so many times there. An obscene amount.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 20, 2013, 05:11:33 AM
Switching to Easy. Had my fill of combat and the game is pretty much dragging at this point. Fuck this shit. :lol
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 20, 2013, 07:57:12 AM
If you're playing on easy you're playing the game wrong. There's only one true way this game is supposed to be played and it just so happens to coincide with my opinion. :maf
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 20, 2013, 08:23:21 AM
If you're playing on easy you're playing the game wrong. There's only one true way this game is supposed to be played and it just so happens to coincide with my opinion. :maf

agreed.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Huff on June 20, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
There really are too many enemies some times and it does feel like the game is dragging. 
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 20, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
I see we are moving out of the "Game Of The Century" honeymoon period.


Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: PigSpeakers on June 20, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
Naaaail booooombs.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 20, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
update thread title to "Game of the Month" plz
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 21, 2013, 04:36:39 AM
I haven't switched yet, even though I've been talking about it for a few days. And just like Huff said-- It's not about being stumped by the challenge as much as wanting to pick the pace up. I'm playing Hard, 63% complete, Fall chapter, and played for 16h and 18min.

Right now, and unlike many others, I can't play play it for more than an hour or two at a time then taking an extended break. I feel like the game made its point about stealth, hand combat, and gunplay. I've experienced various enemy types and recognized their diversity. I'm done. I just want this game to be over with.
Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Huff on June 21, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
It lessens the point they were trying to make of every person is dangerous and combat is hard when you know you'll have to kill 20 people before getting to the next "safe" part. And it lessens my desire to play more than an hour or two at a time
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 21, 2013, 06:31:18 PM
It lessens the point they were trying to make of every person is dangerous and combat is hard when you know you'll have to kill 20 people before getting to the next "safe" part. And it lessens my desire to play more than an hour or two at a time


ugh, sounds like there's a bunch of violence in this game.  I wish they had something like Last Of Us, but the literary aspects of it only, and not as a video game and without all the violence and zombies and stuff. 

Just a story about a man and a little girl's relationship
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Steve Contra on June 21, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
It lessens the point they were trying to make of every person is dangerous and combat is hard when you know you'll have to kill 20 people before getting to the next "safe" part. And it lessens my desire to play more than an hour or two at a time


ugh, sounds like there's a bunch of violence in this game.  I wish they had something like Last Of Us, but the literary aspects of it only, and not as a video game and without all the violence and zombies and stuff. 

Just a story about a man and a little girl's relationship
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Regions_and_Prefectures_of_Japan_2.svg/500px-Regions_and_Prefectures_of_Japan_2.svg.png)
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 21, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
yeah, something Japanese.   Like a Japanese remake of Lolita.   In anime form. 
Title: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 21, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
I actually wish they'd left the popcorn heads out of it altogether, and upped the amount of degenerates. Like, other people trying to catch you and eat you, or skin you for leather, and the whole time they're calmly talking to you as if they were rational human beings instead of the "dese and dose" comic book thugs you run into during the game. That would have been scary to me every time. Clickers stopped being scary after about the third encounter.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: cool breeze on June 21, 2013, 07:44:40 PM
It lessens the point they were trying to make of every person is dangerous and combat is hard when you know you'll have to kill 20 people before getting to the next "safe" part. And it lessens my desire to play more than an hour or two at a time

The sections I didn't like were when you were forced to kill enemies, but for large chunks of the game you could outright avoid confrontation.  Early in the game a message pops up that reads "you can kill, silently kill, or avoid encounters."  I opted to avoid enemies when I could and I think that improved my experience with it.  Reckon you could go through and just shoot people if you wanted.

And clickers, yeah, I avoided them because they were annoying, not scary.  It's not like in stalker where resources are scarce and encountering a mutant is a moment where you consider what you're willing to lose to take it down.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 22, 2013, 01:04:25 AM
I played the MP some more. I have a soft spot for it. If it actually had objective modes like Search and Destroy, etc I would actually play it for a minute. But just the TDM stuff isn't gonna last too long for me.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: ManaByte on June 24, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
Does David Cage's asshole attitude rub off on the people who work with him?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ellen-page-doesnt-appreciate-naughty-dog-ripping-off-her-likeness-in-the-last-of-us/
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 24, 2013, 06:56:23 PM
Does David Cage's asshole attitude rub off on the people who work with him?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ellen-page-doesnt-appreciate-naughty-dog-ripping-off-her-likeness-in-the-last-of-us/

how dare someone who literally MAKES HER LIVING appearing in things be upset when someone uses her likeness without her permission

Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 24, 2013, 07:01:25 PM
wait a minute, I'm arguing with ManaByte. maybe there's something to this whole "personality traits rub off on other people" thing after all
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: ManaByte on June 24, 2013, 07:06:38 PM
ND started work on Last of Us before HEAVY RAIN was even on shelves.

People are acting like ND went out and tried to sabotage Beyond or something.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: bork on June 24, 2013, 07:32:50 PM
ND started work on Last of Us before HEAVY RAIN was even on shelves.

People are acting like ND went out and tried to sabotage Beyond or something.

What does that have to do with them using her likeness without permission?   ???
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 24, 2013, 07:34:08 PM
ND started work on Last of Us before HEAVY RAIN was even on shelves.

People are acting like ND went out and tried to sabotage Beyond or something.

Ellen Page doesn't care about Naughty Dog, Quantic Dream, The Last of Us or Beyond: Two Souls.

Ellen Page cares about Ellen Page.

She's expressing an opinion in this matter because, as a professional actress, she has a strong financial and personal interest in preventing her likeness from being used without her permission. Not because she's in the tank for David Cage. Get a goddamned clue.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 24, 2013, 07:35:11 PM
ND started work on Last of Us before HEAVY RAIN was even on shelves.

People are acting like ND went out and tried to sabotage Beyond or something.

What does that have to do with them using her likeness without permission?   ???

Forget it, Bork ... it's ManaBytetown.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 24, 2013, 07:42:58 PM
They very clearly used her as a jumping off point initially. But Ellie doesn't look much like Ellen Page now. Not in so much as they are both white brunette females.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 24, 2013, 08:19:51 PM
this isn't the 80s, we have rules about this sort of thing now

(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/Metal%20Terminator%20Gear%21.jpg)
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: brob on June 24, 2013, 08:24:21 PM
quit trying to stifle creativity Treesong :maf
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Steve Contra on June 24, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
this isn't the 80s, we have rules about this sort of thing now

(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/Metal%20Terminator%20Gear%21.jpg)
From that we've been reduced to ripping off Ellen Page. 
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 24, 2013, 11:44:42 PM
The multiplayer in this game is actually pretty cool.

but it's missing some form of infected inclusion. like a horde mode or something.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 24, 2013, 11:49:52 PM
it'll be in the season pass fo sho
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 25, 2013, 01:49:54 AM
Game was pretty great in the end.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: chronovore on June 25, 2013, 07:38:41 AM
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: mjemirzian on June 25, 2013, 12:25:08 PM
I've watched the whole game on twitch.tv, don't have a strong desire to play through it myself.

If they release a PS4 port that doesn't have 15fps framedrops I'm in.
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Post by: mjemirzian on June 25, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
This game was a great movie. :-[
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 25, 2013, 12:38:51 PM
I liked the narrative/story/character development more than the actual gameplay. I kept expecting it to go certain cliched ways, but it surprised by not doing so. If this was a TV show, I'd watch it. Oh wait...
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 25, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
I didn't play Infinite so maybe that's why I feel I'm more receptive to this than a lot of people.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 25, 2013, 12:51:28 PM
I think a lot of modern games fall into the category of watching them being played is honestly very equivalent to actually playing them. Last of Us certainly falls into that category. The appeal is mostly story and voice acting. It's not like the game has puzzles or mind bending bits or divergent paths.

I think Bioshock Infinite also mainly falls into this category.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2013, 12:53:34 PM
I'm surprised by the praise for the story given ND isn't really known for their storytelling. Sure, they're known for presentation, but storytelling and characters? I'm surprised because the reason I like ND games are their gameplay and not really their stories.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 25, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
Disagree'd on both accounts.

Moreso in regard to Bioshock. It's shooty gameplay is the best aspect of that game.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 25, 2013, 12:59:04 PM
I'm surprised by the praise for the story given ND isn't really known for their storytelling. Sure, they're known for presentation, but storytelling and characters? I'm surprised because the reason I like ND games are their gameplay and not really their stories.

I'm honestly not that big a naughty dog fanboy like most people. Their PS 2 stuff wasn't my cup of tea but whatever that was a long time ago. I think Uncharted 2 is a fairly revolutionary game but mainly in how it seamlessly linked cinematic feel and voice acting with gameplay. It was like a further evolution of the COD model. The fact that it was a decent to good-ish shooter was nice but I don't think the shooter parts will go down as revolutionary.

I think Last of US is over-rated relative to the scores its received but I do think its significant once again for its voice acting and characters. I try not to reference "story" as I think story actually isn't important in videogames in the broadest sense. I think immersion and characterization is and in that respect Last of Us is good and I think that's the core strength of Naughty Dog.

The best thing about Naughty Dog for me certainly this gen wasn't gameplay. It was spectacle. It was characters. It was great graphics. I think Uncharted 2 was the one where they got the package and mix the most correct and that's why that game is really important and special. Uncharted 3 and Last of Us much less so.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2013, 01:04:05 PM
I thought Uncharted 2 was revolutionary in that it weaved cinematic vignettes (such as the classic building falling apart while being destroyed by a helicopter part) with real time action with no cutscenes.

Jak 2 is my favorite platformer of the ps2 era.

Crash 2 is one of my favorite games of the psx.

ND do great work in the gameplay area, hence I'm utterly shocked people are disappointed in this games gameplay. People talk about characters, and I like Nathan Drake, but I don't remember shit about Uncharted 1 or 2's stories. I don't give a fuck about any of that, so I'm confused every time some person talks about ND's storytelling, and I'm someone who played Uncharted 2 like 5-6 times.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 25, 2013, 01:15:34 PM
People talk about characters, and I like Nathan Drake, but I don't remember shit about Uncharted 1 or 2's stories. I don't give a fuck about any of that, so I'm confused every time some person talks about ND's storytelling, and I'm someone who played Uncharted 2 like 5-6 times.

People tend to conflate story and characters and immersion when they are talking about them especially in videogames. Which is why I rarely talk about story proper. Videogame stories almost always are generally bad because the story will always serve second place to the gameplay contrivances that someone will need to make to make a fun videogame. But characters and immersion are really important. Even in this day and age very few games get that right. And the ones that do tend to be talked about in terms of story even if the story isn't all that special.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2013, 01:21:03 PM
Oh. I was never immersed in any of the Uncharted games. In fact, the games are designed around breaking immersion, especially 1, where you'll have gun shoot outs and explodable barrels in centuries old abandoned crypts.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 25, 2013, 01:23:05 PM
I was highly immersed in Uncharted 2. I think a lot of people were especially during an original playthrough. In fact the marketing and the TV commercials were essentially selling the fact that you were watching a movie/game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QjuO5kwQh8

It felt like an Indiana Jones adventure movie set to videogame form even with all the shooting. The characters were great and wise cracking and I cared about them and the little love Triangle. It was great in that aspect. Of course it was also a fun playing game.  In fact its one of the reasons Uncharted 3 is so disappointing to me. It felt worse in that regard and the gameplay is actually worse.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2013, 01:55:29 PM
Oh. We're talking about the same thing then. I liked how Uncharted 2 looked like a movie, but it was all game. I just wasn't "immersed" by it. So we're saying the same thing, just with different language.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 25, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
Just got to Fall.

Goddamn.

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Stupid parental emotions. Henry took down his little brother and then offed himself.
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Post by: Huff on June 25, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
This is really growing on me again now that I have a hang of the combat and know that guns are a last resort. Just got finished Pittsburgh. 9hr 30min 54% complete.  Can still be frustrating at times especially when I'm not sure how to play a situation right, but staying patient is the key so far. I wouldn't say the game/gun play is bad at all. And playing a situation right and taking out all the guys/fungi is really rewarding
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 25, 2013, 11:54:59 PM
Pittsburgh was the most frustrating area in the game, imo. Everything that comes after is much better. It was unfortunate how it wore me out though, by the point I started the more interesting Fall and Winter the impact of combat and infected was almost lost. That's probably one of my gripes about the game; it started out really well, delivering the type of intensity and nerve-racking encounters of RE4, but then the infected became common place and the game was reluctant in throwing more enemy types and scares.

 In a way, it's understandable, since they didn't want to go overboard with the concept... the game tried to avoid some of the gaming cliches as much as possible, such as the monster > big monster > BIGGER MONSTER > IMPOSSIBLE BOSS! at predictable, designated points. It was a refreshing change, albeit one at the expense of the aforementioned intense scares.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 26, 2013, 03:13:15 AM
Winter.

Damn this game makes me nervous when I'm taking on other people or dealing with other people. The infected... not so much.

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Didn't expect that I'd be playing as Ellie.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 26, 2013, 04:17:32 AM
Spring.

Holy shit.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 26, 2013, 05:30:46 AM
So... Spring...

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Trying to push through the underpass/tunnel filled with clickers, runners and bloaters. I manage to avoid the first wave and get around them through the side hallway, but then I'm fucked with the second set. Distractions don't seem to work as well. Ideas?

That giraffe scene was pretty cool, to be honest.
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: archnemesis on June 26, 2013, 05:45:59 AM
I was tired of sneaking when I reached that part. Stealth combined with archery and molotov cocktails helped me go trough that part at a fast pace.
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I did sneak past the last bloater though. Fuck those guys.
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 26, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
Gundam, if you're still stuck at that part you just need to sneak around everyone. Obviously avoid all bloaters, and remember they're blind as well. Only take down the clickers who're in your way. Kill the runners who might blow your covers, and also remember the ones face-palming are not as alert as the ones roaming around. So you don't need to take everyone down. Best weapon in the area for clickers and walkers is the bow. It silently kills and it owns, as long as you aim to the head.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 27, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
Got through there this morning. I think I'm right near the end now. Great game.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 27, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
Honestly I can't believe how fast you burned through this. I'm proud.
Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 27, 2013, 02:50:31 AM
Game over. Awesome.

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Joel really can't accept the death of his daughter, can he?
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: Pachterballs on June 27, 2013, 10:19:32 AM
best game this gen easily. I still think about TLOU whenever I see images/advertising. Incredible universe and the ellie/joel relationship and the way they ended the TLOU displays immense maturity.

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I mean, nathan drake as david? hOlyfucking shit. He's a great voice actor
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Title: Re: Naughty Dog ends the console generation with the GAME OF THE CENTURY
Post by: MCD on August 08, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
There is nothing groundbreaking or new in this game; you probably seen the story in some tv show or animu, the game, the gameplay is derp herp uncharted plus crafting shit on the go but excels at everything it does.

 
Good job, ND. One of the best games of this generation for sure and better than cartoony Uncharted for sure.