THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Diunx on June 10, 2013, 02:25:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_cQaKxomI
:gladbron :rejoice :noah :whew :phil :aah
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God, I think this may be a real return to form.
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yeap, this looks sick as hell
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CUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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PC version Konami. Make it happen.
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PC version Konami. Make it happen.
Was'nt it confirmed already?
Hell I would'nt be surprised, PC versions of Japanese console games seem to be the rage now.
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Yep looked gooded. Graphically not that impressive but looked fun.
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This is what I thought MGS3 would be back when Kojima made some wild promises.
Xbox One announcement is great, too. At least there is a next gen version that exists. But I'd prefer to play it on PC.
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Looks awesome, sounds awesome, but will moments of awesome be punctuated by something as awful as Drebin again? Time will tell. The time its set gives me some hope. The PSP games and / MGS3 are the best aside from the original.
I hope they do MGO again too.
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fast forward through open world traversal
fast forward through cut scene
do some stealthy takedowns and distract guards with pin-up mags.
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Looks awesome, sounds awesome, but will moments of awesome be punctuated by something as awful as Drebin again? Time will tell. The time its set gives me some hope. The PSP games and / MGS3 are the best aside from the original.
Excluding Port Ops and Port Ops+, right? Otherwise :comeon
I hope they do MGO again too.
Oh. :kobeyuck
But yeah, that trailer looked hot. I wonder if the real-time will be fast-foward or "real" real-time. Still, if they do half the things they promised in that trailer it'll be hot for the stealth genre. :noah
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This is what I thought MGS3 and 4 and Peace Walker and would be back when Kojima made some wild promises.
Xbox One announcement is great, too. At least there is a next gen version that exists. But I'd prefer to play it on PC.
ftfy
I'm stoked for this game, don't get me wrong, but Kojima has been promising an open-world stealth-gaming utopia for years now and has never delivered. I get the feeling this will feature the same, larger, hub-style levels with clear critical paths that MGS4 had.
I hope they do MGO again too.
I hope so too! I would become nonexistent to the outside world.
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Looked incredible. Mad MGS3 vibes.
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Doesn't look much like an MGS game, but it looks pretty cool.
I get the feeling Kojima wanted to do an open world RDR kind of game, but Konami forced Snake into it because money.
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Kiefer sounds good as Big Boss
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Looked incredible. Mad MGS3 vibes.
It's not even just that. I get vibes that Kojima is actually doing something he wants. Tackling subjects like child soldiers and slavery. Maybe not outside of normal MGS stuff, but it doesn't seem like it will be thaqt shackled with dealing with MGS canon like 4 was.
And then there's the open world stuff. It seems like he's actually trying and succeeding with mixing up the MGS gameplay.
But oh, there was no passion in it so I guess the game sucks.
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So far, this would be my choice for game of the show.
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I get the feeling Kojima wanted to do an open world RDR kind of game, but Konami forced Snake into it because money.
Well, obviously. At this point Kojima is trapped to do Metal Gear titles until he dies. Wasn't ZoE3 canceled or shelved for a bit? But yeah, Metal Gear is the only "money maker" Konami has so that's why. Castlevania has been on decline and there's nothing else really "strong" for them in regards to AAA console space.
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I get the feeling Kojima wanted to do an open world RDR kind of game, but Konami forced Snake into it because money.
Nah, the man knows his fate is tied to Metal Gear. He's just taking it to Afghanistan because he watched and inhaled Rambo 3 like any other action movie from that era.
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I'm pretty sure Kojima is always doing what he wants with MGS. We already know he won't hand the reigns to anyone.
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Looks awesome, sounds awesome, but will moments of awesome be punctuated by something as awful as Drebin again? Time will tell. The time its set gives me some hope. The PSP games and / MGS3 are the best aside from the original.
Excluding Port Ops and Port Ops+, right? Otherwise :comeon
I hope they do MGO again too.
Oh. :kobeyuck
But yeah, that trailer looked hot. I wonder if the real-time will be fast-foward or "real" real-time. Still, if they do half the things they promised in that trailer it'll be hot for the stealth genre. :noah
I thought that they had an American studio solely working on MGO
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I'm pretty sure Kojima is always doing what he wants with MGS. We already know he won't hand the reigns to anyone.
Nah, I don't quite believe that after MGS4.
I mean yes, he was in fact doing what he wants, but I mean you had a game were he was trying to appease fans by solving every little detail and reusing plot points that got good reception before. It was a game who's story was made to answer fans desires and put in every little MGS thing possible.
Something like MGS2 sure wasn't.
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:lawd :noah :whew :rejoice
The only game that matters so far this show. Such ownage.
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I'm pretty sure Kojima is always doing what he wants with MGS. We already know he won't hand the reigns to anyone.
Nah, I don't quite believe that after MGS4.
I mean yes, he was in fact doing what he wants, but I mean you had a game were he was trying to appease fans by solving every little detail and reusing plot points that got good reception before. It was a game who's story was made to answer fans desires and put in every little MGS thing possible.
Something like MGS2 sure wasn't.
Play MGS2 again. It's absolutely nothing but MGS1 fanservice out the wazoo. In fact, play it again and imagine that you've never played MGS before, and see how imperceptible it is. The entire goddamn game is metacommentary about MGS1. I know it's more digestible to think that Kojima's hand was forced to make his games nauseating to people who actually enjoy good storytelling, but it turns out Kojima just sucks at telling stories.
Doesn't make his games any less fun, though.
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So far, this would be my choice for game of the show.
its been two hours :lol
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I played MGS2 yesterday and your point is kind of true. Also MGS2 was the first MGS I played, hence it's my favorite.
The point is it is MGS1 again, that's part of the plot and thats cool. But that doesn't change the fact that the game doesn't play it safe and at time's refuses to give the player what it wants. MGS fanserivce isn't the problem, no they all have that and that's part of the series charms.
MGS4 on the other hand is not simple "hehe references and being meta". It's problem is that it tries to answer everything with the sole purpose of appeasing fans. Previous MGS games weren't exactly interested in that. People have powers, eh whatever. Strange stuff does not need a logical answer. But 4's main story reason to exist as said by Kojima was to answer all those questions people wanted answer.
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I WANT THE SONG NAO!!!!
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I thought that they had an American studio solely working on MGO
Maybe. I haven't followed. If that's the case maybe they can make it good.
(So tired of headshot hacks. No, I don't need it to be another T/FPS just fix the mechanics)
I played MGS2 yesterday and your point is kind of true. Also MGS2 was the first MGS I played, hence it's my favorite.
The point is it is MGS1 again, that's part of the plot and thats cool. But that doesn't change the fact that the game doesn't play it safe and at time's refuses to give the player what it wants. MGS fanserivce isn't the problem, no they all have that and that's part of the series charms.
MGS4 on the other hand is not simple "hehe references and being meta". It's problem is that it tries to answer everything with the sole purpose of appeasing fans. Previous MGS games weren't exactly interested in that. People have powers, eh whatever. Strange stuff does not need a logical answer. But 4's main story reason to exist as said by Kojima was to answer all those questions people wanted answer.
MGS4's problem was it's supposed to be the "last" the Solid Snake saga so it was going to answer everything Kojima left hanging in the other games. The other 3 (okay 4-6 titles) didn't have that problem because they could leave things hanging and hook those things into other titles with a wink and a nod. MGS4 didn't have that.
If we could turn back time and have Kojima retcon the MGS3 characters are the patriots and leave that hanging with a few other things to lead into 5 and still leave the Patriots "they've been dead for years" mystery alive, I don't think 4's story would've been that bad.
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I'm just hoping that MGS4 fixed up the MGS plot enough that he can actually move forward with it.
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I played MGS2 yesterday and your point is kind of true. Also MGS2 was the first MGS I played, hence it's my favorite.
The point is it is MGS1 again, that's part of the plot and thats cool. But that doesn't change the fact that the game doesn't play it safe and at time's refuses to give the player what it wants. MGS fanserivce isn't the problem, no they all have that and that's part of the series charms.
MGS4 on the other hand is not simple "hehe references and being meta". It's problem is that it tries to answer everything with the sole purpose of appeasing fans. Previous MGS games weren't exactly interested in that. People have powers, eh whatever. Strange stuff does not need a logical answer. But 4's main story reason to exist as said by Kojima was to answer all those questions people wanted answer.
I don't think MGS4 was utterly focused on providing all the answers though. Just like previous MGS games, it had its own insane plot running parallel to the bits of fan-service and exposition regarding things that were in other games.
I'm not going to argue that MGS4 was flawless, but your original point was that Kojima might not have been in full creative control of the series at some point, and I'm saying that it's quite the contrary.
I'm just hoping that MGS4 fixed up the MGS plot enough that he can actually move forward with it.
If you actually meant MGS4, I think it did.
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Maybe he'll tie it all together from the other end now.
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Maybe he'll tie it all together from the other end now.
It'd be quite cool if he was building up to Metal Gear 1/2 remakes. I hope he doesn't make absolutely mad familial connections to everyone from Big Boss' timeline to those in Snakes. Couple of characters in that trailer (Emmerich, the sniper etc) make me think he could. Ocelot is in some strange nether world between crew cut badass and rootin tootin moustachioed revolver spinning badass. Without the face hair, the mullet looks... awful. Game must be set in Ocelot's personal 1980s. edit: Actually it makes him look like a slick-back English villain. It would look worse if he was balding too. So maybe its not so bad.
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Maybe Quiet is the LOST DAUGHTER OF THE BOSS AND THE END :o :o :o
Seriously, MGS is a virtual soap opera. Lower your goddamn expectations, people.
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Maybe he'll tie it all together from the other end now.
He said he wants to do this. No bullshit.
Normally he claims he'll never make another Metal Gear. Now he wants to fill the gap.
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So far, this would be my choice for game of the show.
its been two hours :lol
"so far"
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This is awesome news because now a PS4 version is confirmed as well. Now I just have to wait on the news that GTA5 is announced for next gen and I won't have a reason to get a ps3 anymore :)
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I think it's Emmerich, in order to fulfill Solid's dying will (to be explained in MGS6), has undergone genetic and psychological modification to become Ocelot, all the while the child soldiers who form a network of human-AI's controlled by Vamp's and Naomi's love child which is actually a mix of nanomachine's and mutated fox die is using the child soldiers to create a new Outer Heaven and a new Metal Gear.
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Have you not played MGS4, Arvie? Half of the characters you mentioned are dead at the end of it. Your story is still better than Kojima's, though.
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Sure dead. Until we find out they are clones because the world needs a Naomi icon, three games later.
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"The world needs a bra-less gene therapist, and you're our only hope, Naomi."
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I sure enough needed my camera when Naomi was around :drool
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I'm just hoping that MGS4 fixed up the MGS plot enough that he can actually move forward with it.
They moved forward in Revengeance
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looks good but im still skeptical. the open world looks nice, but mgs is always best when youre working your way thru a tightly-designed puzzle. and if the ai and sneaking and general gameplay is still really close to what the older games were then ehhhhhh. the story scenes look stupid as ever; hopefully the open world design means much longer segments of actual gameplay.
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looks good but im still skeptical. the open world looks nice, but mgs is always best when youre working your way thru a tightly-designed puzzle. and if the ai and sneaking and general gameplay is still really close to what the older games were then ehhhhhh. the story scenes look stupid as ever; hopefully the open world design means much longer segments of actual gameplay.
Nah, MGS3 was basically an open-world game with load screens between areas and that was the best gameplay in the series. MGS is at its best when it gives you an area to get through/get around and you make up your own way to do it.
The only thing I didn't like in the trailer was how he has this Lara Croft style arms flailing jump when leaping to a ledge and it looks kind of silly for a character like Big Boss.
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Also, no grass, no futuristic octo-cam...seems like the stealth could be a bit more challenging here.
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looks good but im still skeptical. the open world looks nice, but mgs is always best when youre working your way thru a tightly-designed puzzle. and if the ai and sneaking and general gameplay is still really close to what the older games were then ehhhhhh. the story scenes look stupid as ever; hopefully the open world design means much longer segments of actual gameplay.
Nah, MGS3 was basically an open-world game with load screens between areas and that was the best gameplay in the series. MGS is at its best when it gives you an area to get through/get around and you make up your own way to do it.
The only thing I didn't like in the trailer was how he has this Lara Croft style arms flailing jump when leaping to a ledge and it looks kind of silly for a character like Big Boss.
The horse part was making me laugh.
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Horse stealth. <3
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Extended trailer. Confirmed for Playstation 4. Sadly, no PC yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ8TZ4fRxFw
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PC port would be a megaton.
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Dat extended trailer in HD :lawd :whew :whoo :anhuld
Preordering PS3 version!
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"I'm sure you're worried about if the cutscenes are as long as Metal Gear Solid 4," Kojima said during an E3 roundtable. "Since this time around we're using an open world environment," Metal Gear Solid V will have "less cutscenes [than before]." Because you'll be exploring, you'll have fewer opportunities to run into a cutscene that takes control away.
:rejoice
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this time it'll only be 7 hours of story
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Everything sure sounds like MGS2 -> MGS3 again.
which is a very good thing
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This is looking like the stealth game I've wanted for a while. Pretty cool.
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The extended trailer gave me MGS3 vibes. I still love that game.
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This might be the first MGS I play. Open world, less cutscenes, WRPG-like? Sign me up. :-[
Can't wait for MGR PC and MGR 2 as well.
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(http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kojimatweets.jpg)
:lawd :aah :rejoice
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Prrruuuuuwwwuuuuu
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Isn't shoehorned fanservice standard for Japanese devs these days?
Or maybe he's just trolling.
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These days? It's a long-standing tradition.
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Isn't shoehorned fanservice standard for Japanese devs these days?
Or maybe he's just trolling.
He isn't, he posted this
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTT_vRkCEAAQP2B.jpg)
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
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well the thread title at least now makes much more sense :heh
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In what world is that sexy or erotic and not just gross?
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In what world is that sexy or erotic and not just gross?
akihabara
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:lol
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remember those scenes in mgs4 where you could stare at the chicks ass as she writhed in pain on the floor before dying from the wounds you inflicted on her? man that was classic
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In what world is that sexy or erotic and not just gross?
in the She doesn't have a penis so I'd fuck her world.
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In what world is that sexy or erotic and not just gross?
akihabara
:phil
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:lol
Even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact it's gross or ridiculous. So here we have a female soldier who prances around in stockings? I don't think, no matter what culture you were raised from, the idea is any less ridiculous.
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Whats gross about it? Stupid? I guess, but whats gross about ripped stockings?
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Because the ripped stockings amount for a majority of the characters clothing?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/612114771f4fd0625e7681beafb29f78/tumblr_mo6uyfo0Qr1qctrupo1_r1_500.gif)
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Is it any stupider then this?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080313003357/metalgear/images/0/05/Fortune.jpg&imgrefurl=http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Fortune&h=1599&w=899&sz=215&tbnid=16qUj2uhQk5ryM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=51&zoom=1&usg=__m3rTWdrl5uH1w1Mx1rd4PZcGhfU=&docid=Iqbt2fkzsgeFSM&sa=X&ei=3tAnUr79MenXygGvyYCoDg&ved=0CDoQ9QEwAQ&dur=45
It's dumb and lame, but women have been wearing dumb shit forever in video games. Hell I bet there will be a stupid touch her breasts part like in Peace Walker.
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I find Quiet's outfit a lot more ridiculous. At least with Fortune, it's in the same area of western comic books with her leotard, as she's wearing far more clothes than Quiet.
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Metal Gear's been tacky in this regard for awhile. It was funny in 3. "Oh haha of course the boss is looking at Eva and of course a feme fatale has giant cleavage!
But in 4 you had strange camera angles on not just the skin tight Beauties , but even on Mei Ling's ass as she comically dropped something during her briefing. Oh is'nt she so cute! Hell, there's giant cleavage Naomi. Remember her, the doctor who was basically wearing a sweater in 1? Not only does she have cancer, but she's got a giant rack now too and she's not afraid to show if off!. Hell, now the sweater's on Rose, who won't bore you as much because you can shake her boobs as powered by Sixaxis!
And in PW there's entire character who all I can remember about her is that she's randomly in the forest and you can play with her boobs.
Quiet's outfit is dumb. Why is a Sniper in a desert even wearing stockings? Hell I can deal with her having little up top, because fine you can justify it because it's hot or something. The stockings are dumb and I don't see the point, it would even make more sense to just wear short shorts or something. But whatever, MGS is a series that lost most of it's dignity a while ago anyway.
And I don't mention the ACid games, because those a strange anyway so I don't care about the fanservice in 2.
But Fourtane's outfit seems just as dumb. To be honest, I never saw her as sexy or anything. I don't think that was the intent as it is with Quiet seemingly. But still why is a girl using a railgun basically in a swimsuit? I have no idea and in general I don't even bother to question what comes out of Japan anymore.
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I completely agree Rah. Metal Gear lost its shit a long time ago in terms of grounded character designs - well, as far as you can get with a franchise with cyborg ninjas - but holy fuck something about Quiet, man.
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:lol
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Because the ripped stockings amount for a majority of the characters clothing?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/612114771f4fd0625e7681beafb29f78/tumblr_mo6uyfo0Qr1qctrupo1_r1_500.gif)
Can anyone slowdown this gif so I can fap?
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/06/metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-the-splinter-cell-effect?abthid=52297c7c13532e4667000025
Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes - The Splinter Cell Effect
Slow-mo executions, regenerating health, and more changes coming.
Before a guard enters an alert state, you’ll get a button prompt indicating you’re busted. Hold the left trigger, and you’ll briefly freeze time, giving you the opportunity to pump a couple quiet bullets into an alarmed enemy’s eyeballs.
Someone fucking kill me! :oreilly :snoop
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this only happens when a single guard has seen you, when multiple guards catch you it instantly goes to alert. I think this is a smart way to deal with the problem you run into when you try to do a no-alert run, get seen by just one guard and have to reset. Even though I got used to it by the end of MGS3 it was really frustrating to deal with how easily you can go to full alert in the beginning.
The health regen could be anything, MGS3 and 4 had health regen based on your stamina meter.
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Meh, you could kill a guard before it goes to full alert in the other games without shitty slowmo, I just hope Kojima knows wtf he is doing.
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Mmmno. If a guard spotted you in MGS3 or 4, it instantly went to full alert. It was only in MGS2 that they'd run away and radio in. Regardless, the gameplay footage we saw at E3 looked like the same style of detail-driven stealth gameplay the series is known for.
And I'd stop worrying about whether or not Kojima knows what he's doing. He doesn't.
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I don't like how that sounds (especially bringing up splinter cell :yuck), but this game is gonna be so different from the others anyways so I guess we'll just see how it all balances out.
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I'm open minded. Can't be worse than Worst Game Of The Generation 4.
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Metal Gear Solid ConViction
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Mmmno. If a guard spotted you in MGS3 or 4, it instantly went to full alert. It was only in MGS2 that they'd run away and radio in. Regardless, the gameplay footage we saw at E3 looked like the same style of detail-driven stealth gameplay the series is known for.
And I'd stop worrying about whether or not Kojima knows what he's doing. He doesn't.
If you grabbed or killed a guard fast enough the alert would stop before going full.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elMikUGFfqw
I must say, Jack Bauer sucks big black cocks as Snake, I hope he at least tries to channel Hayter for the grunts.
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Can't be worse than Hayters voice in 3 or 4. Btw this game is looking good. Looks like a complete return to form expanding off what I think is the best Metal Gear title - MGS3.
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As long as all the chicken shit they added gets turned off in Hard then yeah the game shall be great.
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The stuff they've added is fine. MGS has had regenerating health since 3 in the form of the stamina meter. No big deal.
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Keep in mind, I haven't heard it yet. I'll keep an open mind.
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He sounds out of place by playing it straight. Everyone else is still speaking in that bombastic, hammy metal gear way. Kiefer would be fine if everything else was adjusted appropriately.
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I honestly don't think Hayter was much better, but maybe that'll change once I've had to hear nine hours of dialog spoken by Sutherland.