THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: maxy on June 11, 2013, 03:57:45 AM

Title: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2013, 03:57:45 AM
MCD has deserted  >:( , so it's all up to me

Rike?
Not rike?
Pay?
Not pay?

I'm seeing some interesting responses around internet.

 :dead  :rejoice

From Sony
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Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida explained to GameSpot that the requirement is a response to the additional investment the company has had to make on the network side.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: mjemirzian on June 11, 2013, 04:04:05 AM
It's a good tradeoff for not being treated like a criminal if my connection (or MS servers) goes offline more than 24 hours. Assuming publishers like EA don't add similar DRM to their games, anyway.

I still find it hard to believe Sony expressly prohibited EA from implementing DRM in their games.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2013, 04:10:09 AM
I would tread these forums grounds lightly now, Xbot. You are the enemy of the state.

As for your answer:

- MS took from you:
1) used games
2) playing offline
3) being Kinect free

- Sony took from you:
1) free multiplayer

Sony wins 3:1. Not a single person out there will complain about the paid MP on PS4.
Don't be so sure.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2013, 04:44:54 AM
As I said in the other thread, it's a bit of a shame, but PS+ is actually a pretty decent service for the last 1.5 years so it's not a big deal.  You get discounts on PSN games, DLC and stuff which makes up for the $50-60 besides the free game rental program (assuming they keep it the same for PS4).

I paid for like 8 years of Live Gold and never used it besides getting demos on time and playing the occasional multi-player game.  I'm used to it.
Title: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Huff on June 11, 2013, 05:18:17 AM
I'm more concerned about them decreasing the amount of cool stuff ps plus has since basically everyone needs it now. Don't have to try as hard with games and discounts
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: The Sceneman on June 11, 2013, 05:45:18 AM
Kinect is a godsend, haters go the fuck home

I'm fighting the M$ battle until my dying breath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2013, 05:48:51 AM
Kinect  :lol

no one cares
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: MCD on June 11, 2013, 06:35:01 AM
I'm sorry guys.

Look, I tried, I really tried to shill for this but I just can't.

Remove the DRM and I may renew my contract otherwise, you can find me in the nearest garbage bin shelling for Windows Phone.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: archie4208 on June 11, 2013, 07:21:46 AM
As a PCfag, I'm pretty annoyed, especially since Sony is being really aggressive with free to play games, which technically won't be free to play on PS4.

Edit:  I'm also loving the cognitive dissonance at GAF.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: MCD on June 11, 2013, 07:26:10 AM
free to play requires psn plus?
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: archie4208 on June 11, 2013, 07:31:18 AM
I assume so.  I'd love to be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: MCD on June 11, 2013, 07:32:31 AM
I read that on MS but still nothing regarding Sony.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 11, 2013, 07:42:40 AM
It's dumb and I don't like it. However Sony is smart because they built PS+ as a service that provides plenty incentive to have and use which is why I signed up already. My sub will last until the end of the year so that means I'll have access to whatever free stuff that comes with the PS4 version out of the box. That's great news.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
As a PCfag, I'm pretty annoyed, especially since Sony is being really aggressive with free to play games, which technically won't be free to play on PS4.

Edit:  I'm also loving the cognitive dissonance at GAF.

Nothing to be annoyed,PC numbers are going up.People don't like paying for online.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 11, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
It's dumb and I don't like it. However Sony is smart because they built PS+ as a service that provides plenty incentive to have and use which is why I signed up already. My sub will last until the end of the year so that means I'll have access to whatever free stuff that comes with the PS4 version out of the box. That's great news.

I think Drive Club will come with it.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 11, 2013, 07:49:56 AM
Yup, knowing I'll be able to have that as soon as I get my console is really cool. It's pretty amazing how Sony has been able to build PS+ as a superior service over XBL.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: archie4208 on June 11, 2013, 07:57:05 AM
As a PCfag, I'm pretty annoyed, especially since Sony is being really aggressive with free to play games, which technically won't be free to play on PS4.

Edit:  I'm also loving the cognitive dissonance at GAF.

Nothing to be annoyed,PC numbers are going up.People don't like paying for online.

Yeah, but it still seems like a blunder on the F2P end (assuming F2P requires PS+)

That's my sticking point.  League of Legends and World of Tanks are massive games and Sony could have taken advantage of a white hot business model, especially since there are at least four F2P games at launch (Warframe, DC Universe, Planetside 2 and Blacklight Retribution).

It's dumb and I don't like it. However Sony is smart because they built PS+ as a service that provides plenty incentive to have and use which is why I signed up already. My sub will last until the end of the year so that means I'll have access to whatever free stuff that comes with the PS4 version out of the box. That's great news.

I think Drive Club will come with it.

The way Sony was talking, it sounds like it'll be a stripped down version ala GT Prologue.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Diunx on June 11, 2013, 08:06:02 AM
Don't really care about multiplayer but if I did decide to pay up I wouldn't mind as much since PSN+ actually gives you bang for your buck.

Anyway thanks Xbots for supporting this shit in the first place!
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2013, 08:17:25 AM
In my defense,I never payed a single cent for Live Gold.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 09:16:16 AM
I'm not paying for MP, I'm continuing my PS+ sub. 

It sucks, but was expected.  I feel for people who just want to buy a game and play online and don't want all the extras, but I think most will come around when they see they're actually getting a ton of shit for the price. 

Hopefully other paid-sub services are not behind a paywall like Netflix 360...that is the lamest shit.  Even F2P and paid MMOs like FFXIV need to not require the premium sub. 
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Purple Filth on June 11, 2013, 09:24:40 AM
I'm not paying for MP, I'm continuing my PS+ sub. 

It sucks, but was expected.  I feel for people who just want to buy a game and play online and don't want all the extras, but I think most will come around when they see they're actually getting a ton of shit for the price. 

Hopefully other paid-sub services are not behind a paywall like Netflix 360...that is the lamest shit.  Even F2P and paid MMOs like FFXIV need to not require the premium sub.

Yoshida said that media stuff like Netflix, etc wont be behind the paywall so that's good I guess.

https://twitter.com/yosp/status/344372099105845248

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/344284183893520386

We'll see if F2P stuff will also be pardoned (I doubt it but).



As for the question I payed for 360 gold and i hardly fucking use the thing so paying for this is not out of the realm of possibility. 
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2013, 09:30:15 AM
As a PCfag, I'm pretty annoyed, especially since Sony is being really aggressive with free to play games, which technically won't be free to play on PS4.

Edit:  I'm also loving the cognitive dissonance at GAF.

As a Sonyfag last year, I'm with you. It's the same as MS paywalling Netflix behind gold. Doesn't sit right with me to offer a service like that and lock it when you're paying a sub for something else.

And yeah, GAF backtracking over it is hilarious.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: cool breeze on June 11, 2013, 09:35:46 AM
Pretty lame even if it doesn't personally bother me since I don't play much multiplayer.  How will it work for all the free to play games? Do you stick on a big fat asterisk "requires $50 yearly subsciption"?

On the bright side, there were no hints that Sony will charge to use media apps like Netflix.  Other than the standard PS+ perks, only online play was added.  Of course, this could also mean that there will be another 'tier' when the Gaikai/cloud streaming is ready in 2014.  Slippery slope.

The other worrying aspect of nu-PS+ is the "Driveclub PS+ Edition."  Rampant speculation, but instead of free retail games on the service, we might see these paired down enhanced demos/shareware versions of games on the service.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2013, 09:37:09 AM
Oh, one weaselly thing that worried me-- Gaikai might be a separate sub altogether.   
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Momo on June 11, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
leper everyone
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 11, 2013, 12:55:51 PM
i already pay for ps+, will not affect me in the slightest
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: Barry Egan on June 11, 2013, 12:57:22 PM
this is how I feel about it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P080IkXaMgM
Title: Re: Paying for online gaming--tell me how you feel,Sony fans
Post by: bork on June 11, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
Oh, one weaselly thing that worried me-- Gaikai might be a separate sub altogether.

This would be a pretty big blow to them.