THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on June 19, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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YES I CAN FINALLY JUSTIFY THIS SHIT
HOLD ME MAXY
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this would be amazing for many reasons
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:gddr5
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Are they gonna drop the price by 100 too?
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:dead
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Xbox 180 :bow
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Still have to use the Kinect, still more expensive, still fixated on TVSPORTSTVSPORTS.
To say nothing of the fact that this does nothing to combat the spiraling dev costs that are actually killing AAA gaming.
In other words, console gaming is still doomed, news at 11.
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:rofl
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:yuck :yuck
The only thing that would please me would be dropping digital games to $40 and dropping retail altogether.
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Er... this isnt "confirmed" at all
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This rumor, PS3 updates break consoles, PS4 games have bad frame rates, Knack was shown on Jimmy Fallon--bad day for Sony
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Are they gonna drop the price by 100 too?
Kinect bundled, they cannot.
Then fuck em!
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Borys thread.
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It's bullshit. You've all been X-boned.
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Apparently Fallon mentioned on air last night that ps4 would allow used games and no online checks while trying out the xbox one :lol
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DON'T DO THIS TO MY XBOT HEART BORYS
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http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/inside-sources-state-that-microsoft-may-pull-a-180-on-drm-requirements
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjkoBMS3bmM
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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/rumor-microsoft-set-to-reverse-controversial-game-licensing-policies/
HEY DON MATTRICK
FUCK YOUR HAIRCUT
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I now officially hate Poland.
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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It's bullshit. You've all been X-boned.
oops
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Seeing lots of weasel words in there.
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
:bow2
Round up the enthusiast press who defended always online; next stop: shame cube.
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Boom?
All it says is no 24 hour check in. That's not "boom" at all.
kinect still required
used games?
The very next thing is a paragraph about how awesome the cloud is. :lol
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> Go to the largest tech event in the country that's covered by every website on the Internet and a drop a pant load of turds on everyone.
> Backtrack in a blog post
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It says "Click here for the latest" and then I click there and nothing happens.
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Er... the link posted doesn't work.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
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Learn to read guys, the content of the Q&A hasn't been updated yet. But they've offered a link to another page detailing the changes. Page is not up yet.
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" Update on June 19, 2013: As a result of feedback from the Xbox community, we have changed certain policies for Xbox One reflected in this blog. Some of this information is no longer accurate " "
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" Update on June 19, 2013: As a result of feedback from the Xbox community, we have changed certain policies for Xbox One reflected in this blog. Some of this information is no longer accurate " "
The update hasn't been updated yet. Please understand.
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zzz
I bet sharing games is gone,playing without discs too.
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Learn to read guys, the content of the Q&A hasn't been updated yet. But they've offered a link to another page detailing the changes. Page is not up yet.
You "boomed" too early. Just admit it so we can all move on.
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Learn to read guys, the content of the Q&A hasn't been updated yet. But they've offered a link to another page detailing the changes. Page is not up yet.
Yeah, between the rumor and the page announcing an update, you can make a safe leap from there.
next gen is amazing and neither console is out. all the shaming, pettiness, lies, and drama :lawd
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(http://i.minus.com/jgfUyRVFSdfDS.png)
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what fucking cowards :lol :lol
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Cool. Still buying a PS4.
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I can't believe in some wishy-washy ass man like that :gurl
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welp, looks like I'll never say "haha, grassroots campaigns against corporations never work" again.
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The QA page doesn't even work anymore. Just a "blank page"
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welp, looks like I'll never say "haha, grassroots campaigns against corporations never work" again.
It was actually one man who did it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csr6ahk5RMg
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It's officially sticking...
(http://abload.de/img/1805oj1u.png)
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seriously such a shitty company
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Good news if true.
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Guys, do you think we were responsible for this for pressuring Drinky?
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(http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/pub/605x/phil_spencer1.jpg)
THANK YOU BASED SPENCER.
Fapping to this
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Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.
For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.
Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.
You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:
•An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
•Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.
These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.
Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
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Guys, do you think we were responsible for this for pressuring Drinky?
I'm not one to take credit for something I didn't do, but yes, it was all us.
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These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
Drop dead,gamers.
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Region free confirmed too.
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These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
Drop dead,gamers.
looooooooooooooooool
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Wow. I'm pretty surprised. How about get rid of the Kinect spying on me?
Still probably getting a PS4.
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Sony leads, Microsoft follows. :bow2
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(http://i52.tinypic.com/2m4arm1.jpg)
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welp, looks like I'll never say "haha, grassroots campaigns against corporations never work" again.
Nintendo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQqGGgEJHqk
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this is some bullshit.
Microsoft should have had the balls to release as planned. It would have made for much more interesting forum chatter.
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Today is a monumental day for all fanboys... A day for xtard apologists to rejoice while eating crows, and a day for snaggots to move goalposts while they're shitting their pants. God bless America, and god bless Drinky. :american
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Remember when the DRM was an important part of their vision for the console because of TEH CLOUDS or some bullshit? :lol
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Region free confirmed too.
I think they are referring to IP locking, not discs.
I think it will remain the same as X360: Console is region free but games vary by publishers
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Remember when the DRM was an important part of their vision for the console because of TEH CLOUDS or some bullshit? :lol
Regardless of them backtracking, it still kills me that people high up within the company actually thought this shit would fly.
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Is family game sharing gone? >:(
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Is family game sharing gone? >:(
Yep.
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WTH maxy Xbone is back in the game? It will actually SELL now.
Who cares,pack your bag devs.Same old shit is coming to rescue you.
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I'm always offline anyway
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Is family game sharing gone? >:(
Yep.
That's really disappointing. :(
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We're back to "American presidential election" style, where both candidates are basically the same, neither has proven worthy, and people fight endlessly about their petty differences.
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Considering no one understood how family sharing would work, good riddance I say.
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This has caused GAF to go down. :lol
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Forza 5, here I come! :geoff :miyamoto :usavich :usavich :usavich :usavich :usavich
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We're back to "American presidential election" style, where both candidates are basically the same, neither has proven worthy, and people fight endlessly about their petty differences.
"both" candidates, indeed.
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We're back to "American presidential election" style, where both candidates are basically the same, neither has proven worthy, and people fight endlessly about their petty differences.
"both" candidates, indeed.
:paul
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This has caused GAF to go down. :lol
GAF these days like a Thai ladyboy-- is down for anything.
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Remember when the DRM was an important part of their vision for the console because of TEH CLOUDS or some bullshit? :lol
Regardless of them backtracking, it still kills me that people high up within the company actually thought this shit would fly.
Seems like they were caught with their pants down. Didn't expect PS4 to be out so quickly, assumed the high tech would lead to a more expensive PS3 console, perhaps had a "big" launch title planned, etc. Perhaps they felt gamers would have no choice, as both consoles would have similar prices and DRM policies. Most of that shit backfired and now they'll be rebuilding the brand/mindshare for a long time.
They took a risk and it blew up in their face. They better be trying to get Titanfall out at launch lol.
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:bow Corporate Competition :bow2
I don't know how anyone here can't be excited about this.
Even if you don't get an Xbone, its gonna force Sony to up the value of their system now that they're on a little more even playing field.
Now I might get one in a year or so when Quantum Break is out.
I don't think it'll force them to do anything since they're still $100 cheaper, have the better online service, and better hardware. It just means they won't be able to slack as much.
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So I wonder how all the journalists who felt this was necessary to keep the industry afloat feel about this betrayalton. Kuchera post if you are ok
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xbox 180 trending worldwide :lol
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Sweet, now I'll finally buy the xbone
after the price drop
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I'm still not buying an X1, but this is generally good news.
I don't think it changes the general outlook on gaming focused devices, though. :'(
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xbox 180 trending worldwide :lol
shows how bad the negative impressions are that this is being treated as a joke right now vs something to really be excited about.
I mean seriously, Bill Gates' Microsoft wouldn't do this tail-tucking shit. >:(
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Let's be honest here, I still don't care one bit about the Xbone or console gaming in general.
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I can only imagine how pissed Ubi and EA execs are right now.
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Cliffy Blahblahblinsky can choke on his sef righteous cock!!!!
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These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
Drop dead,gamers.
Wanna borrow some of my Steam games? :smug
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Yeah, don't want either console, but this is hilarious. Wasn't Major Nelson arguing with Angry Joe that they couldn't just simply turn off the online check-in?
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These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
Drop dead,gamers.
Wanna borrow some of my Steam games? :smug
Yes please,will be joining you soon.
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Seriously, you all are so excited but don't think if MS had kept their stance, Sony wouldn't have gotten full of themselves and fucked gamers over.
I know better than that. I was alive when the PS3 launched and don't latch on to companies like mommy/daddy like gaffers do :lol
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Yeah, don't want either console, but this is hilarious. Wasn't Major Nelson arguing with Angry Joe that they couldn't just simply turn off the online check-in?
yeah, there will be some major crow eating to be gathered across all the media. especially those gaf threads.
Gotta say, this tickles my lols-prostate.
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Seriously, you all are so excited but don't think if MS had kept their stance, Sony wouldn't have gotten full of themselves and fucked gamers over.
I know better than that. I was alive when the PS3 launched and don't latch on to companies like mommy/daddy like gaffers do :lol
Good. I never understood that stance.
Really, all this tells me is ok, now I might get a One eventually and won't have to deal with DRM shit. I still don't want one anywhere near launch, but maybe 1 year or 2 down the line, they'll get enough content to warrant it.
Exactly.
All it means is we now have nothing left to focus on, except the fact that jack shit has been announced for these consoles :lol
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Just in the nick of time Microsoft! Now e3 can be just about the games.
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Still wont buy anything from Microsoft. They came up with this god awful idea to start with.
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maybe this will stop all the xbone gif thus making the internet a slightly more liveable place once again
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Heh. Fuckin' video games. Honestly, I think I'm more interested in this spectacle right now than I am in either a PS4 or Xbone.
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Someone see if Francis is still angry.
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Now I can finally play Dead Rising 3
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Now its time for EA to backpeddle on online passes
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Heh. Fuckin' video games. Honestly, I think I'm more interested in this spectacle right now than I am in either a PS4 or Xbone.
Definitely.
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You need a day-1 patch for all these changes to apply, I guess the system in in full production.
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You need a day-1 patch for all these changes to apply, I guess the system in in full production.
What if you don't have the internet? :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee
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Now figure out how to make it 100 bucks cheaper.
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You need a day-1 patch for all these changes to apply, I guess the system in in full production.
What if you don't have the internet? :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee
all 360s made from this point forward will contain the patch, so just buy a 360 and plug it into your xbox one to experience the next generation in home media entertainment.
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Holy shit :lol
I just assumed they'd change it eventually but not this soon lol
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596731
it begins
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Rofl. Too late Ms.
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I'm glad SOMETHING finally got them to come to their senses.
And I'm glad there's still gonna be meltdowns over this. :lol
Guess I will get a PS4 this year and an Xbone next year.
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I just love the fact that Chris Kohler has published his "Sony won E3 but that doesn't matter" article today of all days. :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596396
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64849741&postcount=208
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:lol :lol
In all fairness this is great news.
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In a few weeks nobody would even remember the DRM thing happening.
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Microsoft also announced today a loosening of the Xbox One's region restrictions. "You could buy a console in any country and use it any country," Whitten said. "You can use any disc in that console."
OK, maybe this region free thingy is real.
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EA: Titanfall is now coming to PS4 day and date
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lol @ himu
I'm not buying the bone period. Even after this announcement. You have to be a fool to buy that shit after they were the ones to come up with it. This should still be considered the joke it is. Still getting a ps4.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64887136&postcount=135
Microsoft also announced today a loosening of the Xbox One's region restrictions. "You could buy a console in any country and use it any country," Whitten said. "You can use any disc in that console."
OK, maybe this region free thingy is real.
Of course it was for real, everyone was reporting it based on today's MS interviews. I just didn't wanna embarrass you in front of your friends.
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lol
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Now I can say I may get a XONE a year or two from now.
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lol @ himu
I'm not buying the bone period. Even after this announcement. You have to be a fool to buy that shit after they were the ones to come up with it. This should still be considered the joke it is. Still getting a ps4.
But Sony also had DRM structures in place...they just decided to drop using them before MS did.
Both systems are essentially the same now, although one comes with a camera and costs 100 bones more.
It's back to being all about the games again, as it should be.
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What's with all the "Too Late MS" people? Are the consoles are even out yet?
They mean it's too late, they've already gotten emotionally invested in the other console, like a small child or a sports fan.
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Only an idiot fanboy wouldnt be happy about this.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596796
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64890946&postcount=237
:lol
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http://gizmodo.com/the-xbox-one-just-got-way-worse-and-its-our-fault-514411905?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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Have they killed installs too?
Just making a list
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I am happy for MS doing this though. I'm actually completely shocked they did it. Now that they've gotten rid of it, maybe the companies can actually fight via software for a change.
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I am happy for MS doing this though. I'm actually completely shocked they did it. Now that they've gotten rid of it, maybe the companies can actually fight via software for a change.
Have you seen Titanfall?
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Only an idiot fanboy wouldnt be happy about this.
I was really looking forward to the spectacle, next-gen immediatley got more boring now.
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I'm not exactly in the mood for another fps.
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I find it ironic that a majority of you that are happy about this news have Steam accounts. Yet when it comes to a company trying something similar you knock them. Thanks to the lack of education on Microsoft's part in explaining the benefits of DRM, I lose out on many benefits that I would have been afforded one of which would have been the ability to do more with my software than a stupid disc ever would. I don't know if it's because of my situation, but I must be privileged to have an internet connection.
To those that say that the Family sharing is nothing more than a pie in the sky idea, your wrong. If any company could have made it work it would have been Microsoft. I definitely don't see Sony or Nintendo ever trying to do something like that. Let alone be successful in implementing it.
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At least Sony fans have less of a reason to be insufferable cunts now.
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I find it ironic that a majority of you that are happy about this news have Steam accounts. Yet when it comes to a company trying something similar you knock them. Thanks to the lack of education on Microsoft's part in explaining the benefits of DRM, I lose out on many benefits that I would have been afforded one of which would have been the ability to do more with my software than a stupid disc ever would. I don't know if it's because of my situation, but I must be privileged to have an internet connection.
To those that say that the Family sharing is nothing more than a pie in the sky idea, your wrong. If any company could have made it work it would have been Microsoft. I definitely don't see Sony or Nintendo ever trying to do something like that. Let alone be successful in implementing it.
G, xbone drm was (:obama) nothing like steam. Unfuck yourself breh.
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The only reason, and really, the only damned reason I'm so on-board with Steam are their sales. Price. 100% do not give a shit about anything else. Fuck the community, fuck cards, fuck Steam workshop.
Would prices and sales have been anywhere near as good on an MS system? I really doubt it.
At least Sony fans have less of a reason to be insufferable cunts now.
It's still 100$ cheaper. There is no escape Steve
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People want choice other than digital only. The digital age has been going on longer for music and movies, but physical formats still get bought and offer a leash-free option.
Also, the idea we would get steam-like sales on a digital platform that has no competition was always silly.
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At least Sony fans have less of a reason to be insufferable cunts now.
this is wrong-headed thinking
they will just become more cunty for the remaining reasons
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I find it ironic that a majority of you that are happy about this news have Steam accounts. Yet when it comes to a company trying something similar you knock them. Thanks to the lack of education on Microsoft's part in explaining the benefits of DRM, I lose out on many benefits that I would have been afforded one of which would have been the ability to do more with my software than a stupid disc ever would. I don't know if it's because of my situation, but I must be privileged to have an internet connection.
To those that say that the Family sharing is nothing more than a pie in the sky idea, your wrong. If any company could have made it work it would have been Microsoft. I definitely don't see Sony or Nintendo ever trying to do something like that. Let alone be successful in implementing it.
They can try again next gen by not including physical discs AKA Steambox.
Their approach was dumb. Either go full digital or don't fucking bother.
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At least Sony fans have less of a reason to be insufferable cunts now.
...when has that ever stopped Sony fans?
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the xbox now has emerged from the depths of negative reasons to buy it. now it's sitting next to the PS4 at a flatly neutral "no buy".
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It's ok,G.Maybe something decent rises out from inevitable bloodbath.
Let them buy their $400-$500 soon to be doorstops.
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Let's get back to the fun. I'm reading totalbiscuit and cliffyb's twitter twistings.
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who's this totalbiscuit I keep hearing about?
It's ok,G.Maybe something decent rises out from inevitable bloodbath.
Let them buy their $400-$500 soon to be doorstops.
wait they dropped the prices of the xbox one to $400 too? ???
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It's still 100$ cheaper. There is no escape Steve
this is wrong-headed thinking
they will just become more cunty for the remaining reasons
...when has that ever stopped Sony fans?
Yeah, I didn't think that through. Good call, guys.
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G, xbone drm was (:obama) nothing like steam. Unfuck yourself breh.
You may not remember steam in its early days, it wasn't perfect. It was horrible, but it got better. And this was one of those situations where it might have seemed sucky, but it would have gotten better. The fact it offered more than what steam does currently was an awesome step in the right direction. Sadly the throngs of idiots speaking out against DRM got the better of Microsoft.
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You're right. I remember was Steam was really just Counterstrike.
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who's this totalbiscuit I keep hearing about?
some feg with a fedora and a youtube channel who does pre-release coverage of games he is sent by PR companies.
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(http://i.imgur.com/JvQ8IeG.png)
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who's this totalbiscuit I keep hearing about?
It's ok,G.Maybe something decent rises out from inevitable bloodbath.
Let them buy their $400-$500 soon to be doorstops.
wait they dropped the prices of the xbox one to $400 too? ???
They will do that tomorrow,enough excitement for one day.
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fedora
:holeup
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i guess they learned a little lesson about easing people into this kind of shit instead of cramming it down their gullets all at once
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i guess they learned a little lesson about easing people into this kind of shit instead of cramming it down their gullets all at once
You don't show the goat the knife.
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Anyone buttsore over this, thought this would all work out in the end, and that XB1 marketplace would turn into Steam should know this: They're still trying to get $19.99 out of Dark Void on XBL.
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God i cant wait ea to drop the titanfall deal now to make the drama complete
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Didn't MS spend a lot of money on contracts and shit for this thing in relation to DRM? Will this be delayed?
I'm really excited about the competitive "narrative" now. I'm going ps4, but I wonder how this all is going to play out.
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sad that anything might come between ps4 utter domination. depressing news.
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My favorite part about this is we get to round up the people who said: 1. Sony would implement DRM and 2. "it's just on the internet, dudebro will still get the system!"
God fucking damn those apples.
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sad that anything might come between ps4 utter domination. depressing news.
Same here breh. We almost had them.
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(http://i.imgur.com/u4bb7dl.png)
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My favorite part about this is we get to round up the people who said: 1. Sony would implement DRM and 2. "it's just on the internet, dudebro will still get the system!"
God fucking damn those apples.
1. If they thought they could get away with it, they totally would. They're not your fucking buddy, dummy.
2. We'll never know now!
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(http://i.imgur.com/u4bb7dl.png)
:rofl
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(http://i.imgur.com/AZsYQv8.jpg)
... Still douching it up.
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Yeah, Sony jsut judged the market better on the DRM thing. They were both doing it. Nintendo had no interest in it because they wouldn't want to spend money on building the infrastructure to accomplish it and would have given them minimal gain.
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(http://i.imgur.com/AZsYQv8.jpg)
... Still douching it up.
God I hope this douche doesn't spread his seed.
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(http://i.imgur.com/AZsYQv8.jpg)
... Still douching it up.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64907021&postcount=2119
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does he feel depressed when he goes to the library
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So Gamestop is now some kind of hero?
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of course not
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sad that anything might come between ps4 utter domination. depressing news.
there are still 100 other reasons.
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Ah, so we're now using "drops the Xbone DRM" to mean "adds more restrictive DRM" (requiring the disc in the drive is an arbitrary restriction with no technical justification, and definitely falls under DRM) :smug
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Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 49m
I see people getting killed on the streets of Turkey fighting for their rights and hashtaggers dare to think they're changing the world?
Retweeted by Cliff Bleszinski
CliffyB and TB going for the strawman
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1. If they thought they could get away with it, they totally would. They're not your fucking buddy, dummy.
Yep, the only reason they 180'd is because they must've seen the pre-order numbers between the new X-box and PS4. The backlash was finally too strong/too concrete to continue down that path.
And frankly, I still think that people that suddenly are going to buy the new X-box because of this decision are stupid. After MS has said they "know better"/their policies "benefit you" I don't trust them as far as I can throw them not to suddenly grab everyone that buys the system by the short-hairs and change policies or gradually introduce the original policies again but at a slower/not as noticeable pace. May be paranoid, but they lost me from the first announcement and can't get me back.
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poor cliff. A hype man without a performer. A modern day ronin. :'(
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I find it ironic that a majority of you that are happy about this news have Steam accounts. Yet when it comes to a company trying something similar you knock them. Thanks to the lack of education on Microsoft's part in explaining the benefits of DRM, I lose out on many benefits that I would have been afforded one of which would have been the ability to do more with my software than a stupid disc ever would. I don't know if it's because of my situation, but I must be privileged to have an internet connection.
To those that say that the Family sharing is nothing more than a pie in the sky idea, your wrong. If any company could have made it work it would have been Microsoft. I definitely don't see Sony or Nintendo ever trying to do something like that. Let alone be successful in implementing it.
I haven't purchased anything on Steam for a price above 10€, the majority for a pricepoint around 5€. If there is such an extreme difference in price, especially if you can wait, similarities in DRM become neglible.
Also, what would have been the benefits? If game sharing would have worked as advertised I bet they would have talked a lot more about that. You bet there would have been lots of restrictions...
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FUCKING FINALLY!!!!
Seems MS are not full of fucking idiots over there.
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poor cliff. A hype man without a performer. A modern day ronin. :'(
sweet lord
:dead
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G is mad cause him and Roxy for some reason keep buying seven copies of the same game.
He wants to hurt the developer by only buying one and sharing it.
Way to ruin the economy, G.
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The only thing left is price but that will go down eventually.
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Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 49m
I see people getting killed on the streets of Turkey fighting for their rights and hashtaggers dare to think they're changing the world?
Retweeted by Cliff Bleszinski
CliffyB and TB going for the strawman
cliffy is just your basic douchey rich dude. totalbiscuit is something else though. everyone has a bit of what he embodies inside of them; a self-perpetuating engine of cynicism, churning up all your failures, wasted opportunities and disappointments into a single toxic mix of bile and schadenfreude.
every internet dweeb should pin a totalbiscuit corpse to the walls of their pysche and hang a sign around its neck. he is the worst of all of us.
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Eh, to me they're both victims of the post-ronic. They believe you can troll on the internet with a faux and sincere voice all at once and think it won't matter.
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Can't wait for Mupepe or some other friend buy an xbone. I'll borrow it and then buy Crimson Dragon and give it back after beating it. The only exclusive that entices me. Please bring it to Steam. :fbm
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who the hell is totalbiscuit
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Eh, to me they're both victims of the post-ronic. They believe you can troll on the internet with a faux and sincere voice all at once and think it won't matter.
i don't think totalbiscuit even works on that level. he just has a thin skin and a dull blade.
who the hell is totalbiscuit
i envy you.
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who the hell is totalbiscuit
We should have him on the Cruncheons, give him the ol' dumpster treatment
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G is mad cause him and Roxy for some reason keep buying seven copies of the same game.
He wants to hurt the developer by only buying one and sharing it.
Way to ruin the economy, G.
Remember that copy of Blaze Blue you wanted? If you were on our Family Share you could have had it without me having to ship that shit to you!
In all seriousness it's not about buying multiple copies, but rather the licenses and online passes. This system fixed a lot of problems that I've been personally having with my 360's. I currently have 3 consoles and you try having all of your games available wherever you are. Especially when it comes to XBLA games and having multiple XBL users in your household.
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I wonder if game pricing will silently go up now.EA has to make up for $10 loss somehow.
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Yo, MCD, we back?
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who the hell is totalbiscuit
I feel like I've missed out on something, yet do not feel badly about it.
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who the hell is totalbiscuit
He's that guy that makes those videos.
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if anyone thought Family Share would have actually let 10 people share 1 copy of 1 game
YOU
ARE
AN
IDIOT
Microsoft didn't spend billions of dollars building a comprehensive, cloud-based, license-driven digital distribution system to sell 90% fewer games.
...which is why they removed it from their system. 8)
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Eh, to me they're both victims of the post-ronic. They believe you can troll on the internet with a faux and sincere voice all at once and think it won't matter.
i don't think totalbiscuit even works on that level. he just has a thin skin and a dull blade.
who the hell is totalbiscuit
i envy you.
Now more people know who TB is due to being dissenting. He got in a fight with NeoGAF over it and that only ups his and GAF's profile. When TB did his anti-used game sales rant, he got an increase in subs. It's about entertainment and publicity. Unfortunately, you kind of throw your voice down the toilet by doing it this way. Eventually, the madassery catches up to you and nobody thinks anything of you other than you're crying wolf. You're irrelevant. That's a problem when you're a personality that still wants to be taken seriously, like TB does.
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Microsoft didn't spend billions of dollars building a comprehensive, cloud-based, license-driven digital distribution system to sell 90% fewer games.
This is why this is so shocking. I mean, is the Xbone going to be delayed? This must set them back a lot, no?
Are they still gunning for the Cloud?
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Region free too, eh? Is Ps4 region free?
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Yes ps4 is region free.
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Poor G. He thought he could digitally share his complete game library across all his Xbox Ones.
Now life has killed ... the DRM he DRMed. :'(
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Well then good riddance, region locking. You will not be missed.
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Don't make fun of G, Treesong. How did your wife like my pea coat?
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Poor G. He thought he could digitally share his complete game library across all his Xbox Ones.
Now life has killed ... the DRM he DRMed. :'(
Suffer like G did
No, literally
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CliffyB is just some guy who makes shootin' games.
Or made, rather. He's retired now, or something.
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What does CliffyB even do? Does he just hang out driving fast cars?
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CliffyB is just some guy who makes shootin' games.
Or made, rather. He's retired now, or something.
He's ascended to the Cloud
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What does CliffyB even do? Does he just hang out driving fast cars?
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Don't make fun of G, Treesong. How did your wife like my pea coat?
yes, thank you! glad we could exchange patterns in Animal Crossing Online. :bow the infinite gayness of the cloud :bow2
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Change the color values of the coat about two grays to the left, and now it's perfect. The color you have now is too dark! But that's imo. DO WHATEVER!
Also lol
"Finally, Whitten could not give any reassurance that Microsoft will not change its policies in the future."
:dead
TROJAN HORSE
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596936
http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/19/xbox-one-drm-policy-changes-waited-on-gamers-knowing-complete-story/
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Microsoft didn't spend billions of dollars building a comprehensive, cloud-based, license-driven digital distribution system to sell 90% fewer games.
This is why this is so shocking. I mean, is the Xbone going to be delayed? This must set them back a lot, no?
Are they still gunning for the Cloud?
Early word is that the 180 will be accomplished through a day one patch to the system.
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hahaahaha what the fuck
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I can never get over how much Mattricks looks like a weasel or a ferret in human form.
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So I guess negative mainstream reactions (Fallon, that Military Lady) and apparently low pre-order numbers did this in.
Good because that shit was fucking stupid and no "family plan" wasn't gonna save it
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Microsoft didn't spend billions of dollars building a comprehensive, cloud-based, license-driven digital distribution system to sell 90% fewer games.
This is why this is so shocking. I mean, is the Xbone going to be delayed? This must set them back a lot, no?
Are they still gunning for the Cloud?
This is going to be a bit of a shock, but the cloud was always a fucking lie.
the original name for "the infinite power of the cloud" was "blast remote processing"
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Total Biscuit seems intent on throwing away the goodwill he has built over the course of years, I really don't understand it. He's not going to go out of business or some shit but why take that popularity hit for saying dumb shit? I mean seriously, today is basically Victory Day for nerds, what's the point in putting your asshole 2 cents in.
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Xbox 180 :bow
It's officially sticking...
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:bow2
Brilliant.
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does he feel depressed when he goes to the library
The thing is, that analogy really doesn't hold up. Books do not lose value over time, they cannot lose impressiveness, effectiveness, the audience for any given book does not diminish, in the same way which it does for games.
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I can never get over how much Mattricks looks like a weasel or a ferret in human form.
:o
Holy mackerel, you're right.
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I am actually not very excited about hearing this. In a way its good that they can force themselves and do such changes to keep the customers happy and so on but I was going to buy both consoles anyway. The ps4 and the xbox one. I was actually happy about having the ability to chose from the best of both worlds. I was also curious to see how both consoles will be 5 years down the road. It would have been an interesting difference. The way I see it now is there isn't much of a difference left, just different controllers and different exclusives, not as exciting.
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How crazy must have the pre-order disparity been in order for this shit to happen.
I'm imagining red lights and sirens blaring non stop at headquarters post e3
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I'm still a little wary of Microsoft at this point. If they're willing to change their minds this quickly, who's to say they won't do it again?
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Don't worry, Gundam! Just like your HDMI cable's HDCP, it won't ever be called into action!
Oh, wait...
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I am actually not very excited about hearing this. In a way its good that they can force themselves and do such changes to keep the customers happy and so on but I was going to buy both consoles anyway. The ps4 and the xbox one. I was actually happy about having the ability to chose from the best of both worlds. I was also curious to see how both consoles will be 5 years down the road. It would have been an interesting difference. The way I see it now is there isn't much of a difference left, just different controllers and different exclusives, not as exciting.
Welcome back, Skidmark!
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So did they remove the sharing of digital games as a sort of angry break-up move?
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i feel terrible for all those CEOs who spent months playing fantasy revenue forecast based on the idea that no used game sales would plug the giant whole in the company finances.
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TROJAN HORSE
Basically what I said earlier: I don't trust them enough to not attempt this again but at a slower/less "noticeable" pace for the majority at large to not notice until it's too late. Would it be nice if they never did? Yeah. But I don't trust them enough to not attempt it again.
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So did they remove the sharing of digital games as a sort of angry break-up move?
Not possible without internet and mandatory online for everyone.Offline consoles = piracy hell
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So did they remove the sharing of digital games as a sort of angry break-up move?
yeah, that's confusing.
If Microsoft had the sharing system in place, it'd be an enticing reason to go digital and provide an advantage over the PS4.
Sony's been coy about that, too. It asked us to imagine this scenario where you're playing Knack, you pass out, and your friend takes over your game to finish it for you through streaming magic. Does it read the data from your disk, stream it over your connection to them? what about streaming in general? are there mandatory installs? are these features only for digital buyers? another scenario was the system knowing what game you'll play and downloading them for you and...you get the idea that it's pushing a digital future while championing the old ways.
Not possible without internet and mandatory online for everyone.Offline consoles = piracy hell
I don't think that's correct. At least both PS3 and Steam can make games work until a certain date, internet or no internet. It's how PS Plus works. If it didn't, you could download your games, turn your clock back, and go offline to keep all your PS Plus games.
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huahuahua
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It's still $100 more for a weaker console with an accessory I want nothing to do with.
My interest level is still zero, as it will be for the foreseeable future.
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Xbone looks to have the better launch games though
But still not enough to get me to jump in
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What's with all the crying about game sharing? I have a bunch of games my friends have shared with me over PSN, it isn't something new and it apparently didn't work, what was gonna be different about MS's approach besides being more restrictive?
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What's with all the crying about game sharing? I have a bunch of games my friends have shared with me over PSN, it isn't something new and it apparently didn't work, what was gonna be different about MS's approach besides being more restrictive?
10 people mang.
Seriously its funny Sony got a lot of shit for it and their version was "better" (even though the whole thing was just some DRM work around they eventually tried to peddle as a feature :lol).
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The schadenfreude I'm experiencing right now is amazing. The bitter tears coming from people upset about this are amazing. And by that, I'm not necessarily laughing at people that liked the idea of an all digital console. What I find hilarious are the idiots that thought Microsoft was offering a veritable paradise save for the fact that vocal whiners ruined it. As if Microsoft had no option but to capitulate and get rid of the awesome sounding stuff as well.
Thanks jackasses that wanted to sell used games! You ruined it all. Microsoft had a dream, and you ruined it!
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The schadenfreude I'm experiencing right now is amazing. The bitter tears coming from people upset about this are amazing. And by that, I'm not necessarily laughing at people that liked the idea of an all digital console. What I find hilarious are the idiots that thought Microsoft was offering a veritable paradise save for the fact that vocal whiners ruined it. As if Microsoft had no option but to capitulate and get rid of the awesome sounding stuff as well.
Thanks jackasses that wanted to sell used games! You ruined it all. Microsoft had a dream, and you ruined it!
Thanks jackasses that wanted to save the Jews! You ruined it all. Hitler had a dream, and you ruined it!
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But but all that DLC, microtransactions, and digital downloads were going to be so much cheaper thanks to publishers not having money stolen from them from Gamestop! Now they can't pass on those savings to us, Jackasses.
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That would have been pretty cool if the Bore had a Xbone game sharing group with people rotating purchases
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The worst part of this is that 10 person game sharing fantasy will never be broke. Die hards will take that shit to the grave.
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*golfclap*
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That would have been pretty cool if the Bore had a Xbone game sharing group with people rotating purchases
Then I would never buy a Xbone game ever then :P
And the publisher wouldn't want that (unless MS was gonna give them a ton of money).
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Serious question:
Could Microsoft make this whole thing optional? like you get to chose between the traditional model or digital model when you set up the system the first time. This way people can play with discs offline if that's what they prefer but we who want those new features can still have them if we agree to have the drm bullshit?
Could this be done in a beneficial way for Microsoft?
Welcome back, Skidmark!
Thanks :)
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That would have been pretty cool if the Bore had a Xbone game sharing group with people rotating purchases
Then I would never buy a Xbone game ever then :P
And the publisher wouldn't want that (unless MS was gonna give them a ton of money).
Well, you'd have to buy something every now and then. At least, if I had any say about who was allowed in the Bore group (author's note: I wouldn't) I would. I certainly wouldn't want your freeloading ass in my family share plan.
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That would have been pretty cool if the Bore had a Xbone game sharing group with people rotating purchases
Then I would never buy a Xbone game ever then :P
And the publisher wouldn't want that (unless MS was gonna give them a ton of money).
But then you'll get kicked out of the group after your first flake
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This is all funny to me because all these policies are just temporary anyway. Microsoft's problem was that they tried to shove this down our throats from the outset, did a terrible job of explaining the benefits, and just didn't think about the consequences. I have no doubt by the end of this generation the focus will have moved drastically towards digital games even more so than they have now. And there will probably be tons of new policies for digital game rights that don't exist now.
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This is all funny to me because all these policies are just temporary anyway. Microsoft's problem was that they tried to shove this down our throats from the outset, did a terrible job of explaining the benefits, and just didn't think about the consequences. I have no doubt by the end of this generation the focus will have moved drastically towards digital games even more so than they have now. And there will probably be tons of new policies for digital game rights that don't exist now.
This is the way I understood it from E3.
XBOX ONE® DRM
Benefits:
TEH CLOUD
SHARE GAEMS W/ALL UR FRENDS
SPORTS!!!!
SHIT IS SO FUCKING TIGHT
SPORTS!!!!!
HAVE YOU SEEN TITANFALL!?
Downsides:
Too awesome for some people
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WTF
So no DRM=no cloud?
There goes Forza's 1080P/60fps
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You gotta connect to the internet to get that cloud power, breh.
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microsoft also dodged the bullet of almost giving people some (however tenuous) sense of ownership over their digital titles with all that library/trade in talk.
gabe could flip a switch any day and i'd have a long hard week of torrenting before i had access to my digital library again.
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I think one of the benefits that I remember was that you can go to your friends house and see all your games on their Xbox and play them. After you download them. Which could be like 20gigs. So hopefully you're at like a sleepover or something. And your friend hasn't already filled his hdd?
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cliffy b top 5 punchable gaming personalities
If he is listed as all five does that mean I get to punch him five times? Cause dude needs an awful fucking lot of punching. :punch :punch :punch :punch :punch
Also, gotta admit Sony have played their cards masterfully. Their initial reveal event and then being the final press conference enabled them to go both first and last in the release buildup. We all know that they were planning to do some sort of similar DRM bullshit if not the same due to lacking the infrastructure to do so but were able to look like heroes by saying 'nah kids we wouldn't do that to you because we love gamers <3' after seeing the massive negative backlash to MS doing it. Of course they also benefited extremely heavily from MS pr having its collective head so far up its own ass that it was poking out of its neck again a bit. Such insane hubris.
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I watched the Giantbomb e3 segment with CliffyB and Jonathon Blow. Cliff was pretty doba in it.
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doba? :what
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doba? :what
defence of bad appliances.
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fucking mmo players i swear.
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I would like to think in 6 years there will be a system that allows me to lend or sell back my digitally purchased gamed. Obviously this feature would only work if you can connect to the internet to perform the trade, but there's nothing wrong with that. Once the action is made, the game is no longer accessible to me and will not be accessible until it's returned. To make the return I would have to once again connect to the server, complete the action, then go back to being offline with my digital game.
It's a simple concept. It requires online to function but does not require the entire console to be online in the first place. Not online? You can't use the feature. No biggie.
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Now the whining contingent is out in full force, apparently forgetting that you can still download all your fucking games and pay fifty dollars for Ryse five years from now if that's what you want
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the big problem for sony now is that they were probably building their campaign around the drm issue. they're going to have to bring a different angle now.
it was only microsoft who saved them from an entirely mediocre conference.
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does he feel depressed when he goes to the library
The thing is, that analogy really doesn't hold up. Books do not lose value over time, they cannot lose impressiveness, effectiveness, the audience for any given book does not diminish, in the same way which it does for games.
i mean the author doesn't get paid whenever someone checks out a book, and cliffy seems to be all about creators getting paid whenever someone uses a product
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the big problem for sony now is that they were probably building their campaign around the drm issue. they're going to have to bring a different angle now.
it was only microsoft who saved them from an entirely mediocre conference.
They were both mediocre.
But Sony had more varied games shown for both ps3 and ps4.
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... Still douching it up.
Instead of Gamestop? Who did they have a deal with? Fuck you indeed!
The bullshit they were trying to pull bordered on rent-seeking, so fuck CliffyB. Don't fucking cry to us about capitalism and the rat race it encourages when it fucks you (because you just had to chase the bigger fish) and then turn around and expect consumers to pull you out of the hole you've dug for yourself. Brazen fuck.
Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 49m
I see people getting killed on the streets of Turkey fighting for their rights and hashtaggers dare to think they're changing the world?
Retweeted by Cliff Bleszinski
CliffyB and TB going for the strawman
Jesus Christ these assholes.
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I would like to think in 6 years there will be a system that allows me to lend or sell back my digitally purchased gamed. Obviously this feature would only work if you can connect to the internet to perform the trade, but there's nothing wrong with that. Once the action is made, the game is no longer accessible to me and will not be accessible until it's returned. To make the return I would have to once again connect to the server, complete the action, then go back to being offline with my digital game.
It's a simple concept. It requires online to function but does not require the entire console to be online in the first place. Not online? You can't use the feature. No biggie.
Let's say you install the game on two consoles. You put console 1 offline, then go online with console 2 and de-activate the license (by reselling, giving, etc. the game). How does console 1 know that the license has been de-activated?
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Let's say you install the game on two consoles. You put console 1 offline, then go online with console 2 and de-activate the license (by reselling, giving, etc. the game). How does console 1 know that the license has been de-activated?
There could be a number of methods to get around this. In the scenario I picture, you can only have a game licensed and usable on 1 console at a time. Or if you're going to allow multiple installs, only the originator of the content can perform the lending or reselling. So if you decide to lend a game to someone, the server knows this license is now installed on 2 consoles. If the second console goes offline, it won't matter because it still knows there are 2 systems out there with a licensed tied to them. You won't be able to lend it again or even resell it until the second console returns the license. If it never makes a connection again, you never get the license back.
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I wonder why Microsoft didn't just pull a Whispernet for all the online check shit.
No difference between that and the existing always online. Coverage for data connections through carriers is not perfect. It works for a device designed to be transported around, but what if you live in an area with shit coverage?
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Let's say you install the game on two consoles. You put console 1 offline, then go online with console 2 and de-activate the license (by reselling, giving, etc. the game). How does console 1 know that the license has been de-activated?
There could be a number of methods to get around this. In the scenario I picture, you can only have a game licensed and usable on 1 console at a time. Or if you're going to allow multiple installs, only the originator of the content can perform the lending or reselling. So if you decide to lend a game to someone, the server knows this license is now installed on 2 consoles. If the second console goes offline, it won't matter because it still knows there are 2 systems out there with a licensed tied to them. You won't be able to lend it again or even resell it until the second console returns the license. If it never makes a connection again, you never get the license back.
Yeah, but then you've got to wait on a response from both consoles before you're allowed to lend a game (it's a distributed transaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_transaction) problem). Under the 24 hour ping system you can let the transaction go through immediately because you can just assume that all your consoles will get the update soon enough.
There's also the possibility that someone could actually put themselves into a state where they'd be permanently prevented from reselling or giving games because they don't have physical access to some console that's been put in offline mode. There are of course further workarounds/mitigations for this problem, such as putting a (100 days?) time limit on offline mode, but they make the system even more complicated.
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Still wont buy anything from Microsoft. They came up with this god awful idea to start with.
Both companies were thinking about it. Remember when Sony was rumored to be working on video ads for games?
Be happy MS backed out of it and be happy you don't have to miss rad games now.
You're missing the key bit here. Sony and Microsoft researched this and before pushing it onto consumers Sony went:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZf30T0ny18
Then Microsoft went:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17sEq7HX2QE
Why would I give them money? They will try and pull this shit again at some stage
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you'd have better luck convincing me paris hilton is a virgin than convincing me publishers weren't going to dive for every last dollar within their reach.
Exactly. Microsoft's DRM scheme was an extension of that desperation, not a replacement.
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you know, i was pretty confused when people were defending this shit in the first place
but now i'm really confused that people are sticking with the defence after it's all been dropped. they really believed this was going to be good for them.
Well you can thank sony and luddite gamers from keeping microsoft from pushing the industry forward into new, innovative frontiers such as 24 hour authentication checks and region locking. stuff that has never been done before.
edit: it's also amazing how there is a level of defense that is strictly based on the theory that sony was going to do this too until they saw all the backlash. So basically we've reached the point where we are defending companies doing something and then turning around and not doing something because in theory another company was not going to do that something also.
I don't even know if that makes sense because fuck it
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the big problem for sony now is that they were probably building their campaign around the drm issue. they're going to have to bring a different angle now.
it was only microsoft who saved them from an entirely mediocre conference.
They were both mediocre.
But Sony had more varied games shown for both ps3 and ps4.
I thought XBox had a better game showing, and better exclusives in general.
The only games from the MS conference that interested me were Crimson Dragon and Metal Gear Solid 5. I thought Dead Rising 3 misses the entire point of the franchise, that Sunset Overdrive game is by Imsoniac (hit and miss) and doesn't look like anything I can't do in Left 4 Dead, Halo is Halo, Call of Duty is Call of Duty, Titanfall looks okay but it's another fps and you'd have to make an impressive game (Farcry 3: Blood Dragon for instance) to get me to buy another one of those, Killer Instinct reminded me of what I thought of it in the 90's: dog shit. Not to mention the Kinect games. I still don't own a Kinect.
By comparison, I thought Sony embracing indie's pretty cool, though admittedly some of the games they showed I already own on steam (like Don't Starve), still, they definitely are going in the right direction and I expect psn next generation to be what xbla was this generation in terms of titles. I mean, a remake of Abe's Odyssee? Sign me up. I will always support Oddworld. They showed games that cater to my tastes more as well, like Rain and Beyond Two Souls for ps3. 1886 looks like :yuck, but Destiny has an appeal to me despite being a first person shooter in that it features a large world and an interesting class system. Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts 3 gave me a nipple boner.. Not to mention Infamous: Second Son, which to my memory wasn't showed at the conference. Sony showed adventure games, puzzle games, jrpgs, first person shooters, third person sandbox games, side scroller platformers and more. Variety goes a long way with me. You can tell they're targeting a wider audience and different tastes than what Microsoft is shooting for.
I can understand why someone would find MS' e3 game offerings tempting, but they don't really do anything for me, and the ones that do (MGS5) aren't exclusive. The main outlier remains Crimson Dragon.
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The Square-Enix games are PS4 exclusives?
It doesn't matter for me but it's surprising that SE is going back to 1 platform policy
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The S-E games are not exclusive, you're right.
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That would have been pretty cool if the Bore had a Xbone game sharing group with people rotating purchases
Then I would never buy a Xbone game ever then :P
And the publisher wouldn't want that (unless MS was gonna give them a ton of money).
Well, you'd have to buy something every now and then. At least, if I had any say about who was allowed in the Bore group (author's note: I wouldn't) I would. I certainly wouldn't want your freeloading ass in my family share plan.
That would have been pretty cool if the Bore had a Xbone game sharing group with people rotating purchases
Then I would never buy a Xbone game ever then :P
And the publisher wouldn't want that (unless MS was gonna give them a ton of money).
But then you'll get kicked out of the group after your first flake
I was thinking about this while heading home so yea you are both right that you would need at least a game or 2 but that's a drop in the bucket for the amount of games you could play
Plus it doesn't stop having a group like that regardless of your implicit rules (unless there are other checks the system does relating to game amount). I could see some families working like that where one dude freeloads the fuck out of it
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I'm not going to go into DR3 again, so I'll just post this quote from a recent Cracked article:
And then there was Dead Rising 3. If you're not familiar with the last game, the appeal is that it has none of the grit or angst that comes with zombie fiction these days -- it's you with (literally) thousands of zombies crowding around, and you slaughter them by the hundreds with makeshift weapons, such as the classic Two Chainsaws Duct Taped to a Freaking Boat Paddle.
But when they unveiled Dead Rising 3 at the Xbox One event, they showed the main character coming up on a zombie horde that, according to the presenter, is too big for him to handle ...and then they demonstrated how the player can solve that problem by pulling out his smartphone or Windows tablet in real life ...and, with a few taps using the SmartGlass app, call in an air strike that will simply blow up the zombies for him.
Just to be clear, for those of you who never played the first one -- I've killed larger zombie hordes than that with a bowie knife taped to a broom, while on my way to kill a much bigger horde. The entire point of this experience is the visceral, cathartic thrill of wiping these monsters out, by hand, one swing at a time, or by building an ingenious trap with some combination of propane tanks, nails, and dildos. Not by tapping the "kill zombies" icon on my iPad (which I don't have out when gaming anyway, but more on that in a moment).
Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-every-game-company-gets-wrong-about-gamers/#ixzz2WjKImtcK
I'm not quite sure how any fan of Dead Rising was impressed by the E3 demo/trailer. But oh well, another franchise I like that jumps the shark; used to it.
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I think Titanfall looks cool but to be honest it looks like a COD mod.
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You guys ruined Titanfall in the irc chat for me. I keep reading it as Tittyfall
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Infamous looks cool but it's worrying that Sony is once again pushing Killzone hard
Does that mean Sony will continue to make sequels for their other mediocre 1st party franchises?
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They are pushing Killzone cus is gonna be ready for launch, Infamous is a launch window game.
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E3 games that worked for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koS9fF2vHPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_GDszac6X0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl2FqPiJAa4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI2Y5gsE0d0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Cwv51lC80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBilT83Uq4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNdrJMwrkc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uibnf_Q_51s
Not a bad E3. Probably the best one since 2005...2006?
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Infamous looks cool but it's worrying that Sony is once again pushing Killzone hard
Does that mean Sony will continue to make sequels for their other mediocre 1st party franchises?
I don't think so. I think they're just doing Killzone because it'll be a launch game.
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I mostly posted them for me so I easily rewatch them one after one. Haha.
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does he feel depressed when he goes to the library
The thing is, that analogy really doesn't hold up. Books do not lose value over time, they cannot lose impressiveness, effectiveness, the audience for any given book does not diminish, in the same way which it does for games.
i mean the author doesn't get paid whenever someone checks out a book, and cliffy seems to be all about creators getting paid whenever someone uses a product
Yeah, I get that, and I know it's a pipe dream for it to ever happen... and it isn't necessarily the step best-suited to see things improve for developers.
I know we're looking at a major shift in the game industry; I suspect we're going to see a cataclysmic shift, and then potentially more fiscally responsibly developed games.
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Vids posting is cool with me
I haven't really checked out most of those games since so many people were saying next-gen is crap. Also, I didn't expect anything spectacular since both systems are just low-mid PCs.
Most of those games looked at least decent.
But for a game that could afford to hire famous actors, Beyond looked kinda crap
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Vids posting is cool with me
I haven't really checked out most of those games since so many people were saying next-gen is crap. Also, I didn't expect anything spectacular since both systems are just low-mid PCs.
Most of those games looked at least decent.
But for a game that could afford to hire famous actors, Beyond looked kinda crap
Check out Titanfall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1B3wq9yi8
coming to pc.
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There's a 30 minute gameplay demo on youtube. I'll watch it and report.
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It was all a bunch of goddamned bullshit, anyway. They knew that sharing thing would never really fly with publishers (as did anyone with functioning brain cells), so it was easy to act as if it were being dropped as a casualty of all this, and subtly point a passive-aggressive finger. They easily just could have had you agree to keeping your console online if you wanted to participate in this nebulous, magical plan where you pay for one game and get nine extra copies to essentially give away for free. Now they never have to own up to that lie, and the rest of us will have to scroll past a bunch of fucking boo-hooing over it on messboards forfuckingever. Dickheads.
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Failed system has something far more valuable for pure digital consumer.Buying digital games anywhere(discs were just a delivery medium).Now it will be only good old XBL with $60 Crysis 3 at the moment.
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Uhm what are you on about again? You can still be all digital
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maxy got stuck out in bat country, I think
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How the fuck did I miss this?
I will still harbour suspicion when they reveal future systems, but I have to have a grudging respect for this policy reversal. My online gaming friendlist is largely XBL based, so this is great news for me. If they really wanted to play crowd pleaser they'd shit out a Kinect-less SKU... I'd still buy the one with it TBH, but other people would appreciate it.
Games wise, I am probably more interested in XBO than PS4, its just that price in the way now.
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Watched the Beyond Two Souls demo. I really, really liked it. It fills a specific niche that I like that I realize very few people on this forum would like. On the gameplay demo, I was very confused on what was gameplay and what was a cutscene. The interactivity, from the demo, is very small. In fact, I really wouldn't even call it a game, but it's definitely an interactive movie. By the end of the demo I was left wanting more. Definitely not for everyone but I'm going to get it.
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One cool thing about Beyond is that it has qte's with zero button prompts. The action slows down, and Jodie does an action, like you can tell she's going to duck, so you hit down. If she's going to jump back, you hit the direction of her back. Very progressive qte design here. Was that in Heavy Rain? I haven't seen a game deliver such cinematic and best of all - NATURAL - qte's since Shenmue II. I'm very impressed with what they've shown. Qte's should not be random. In Shenmue, if Ryo is going to run left, you hit left, if he kicks someone, you're going to use the kick button as if you were in battle. Beyond seems to follow the same philosophy but at a more evolved degree.
Day one.
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Uhm what are you on about again? You can still be all digital
Yes,by paying full price for 6 months old games.
Previous model would allow you to buy disc for cheap at retail(or from a friend) and add it to your digital library,not that hard to understand.You could completely avoid XBL pricing if you wanted.
I mean,the dream is over now but that was the biggest advantage of that system,imo.Speaking purely from digital standpoint.
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Yo, MCD, we back?
(http://i.imgur.com/ENpw6.gif)
We never left, soldier.
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Yo, MCD, we back?
(http://i.imgur.com/ENpw6.gif)
We never left, soldier.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=40302.0
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Uhm what are you on about again? You can still be all digital
Yes,by paying full price for 6 months old games.
Previous model would allow you to buy disc for cheap at retail(or from a friend) and add it to your digital library,not that hard to understand.You could completely avoid XBL pricing if you wanted.
I mean,the dream is over now but that was the biggest advantage of that system,imo.Speaking purely from digital standpoint.
lol
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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/19/xbox-one-will-require-day-one-update
Whitten clarified that “you’ll still install [games] to the hard drive. Obviously if you download them from online that’s the way it works. If you put a disc in, it will install it to the hard drive. You will have to have the disc in the tray in order to play. One of the cool features that actually comes with that, as an example, because we built on all this infrastructure around Xbox One, is if I went to your house with my disc-based game and we played for a while, and obviously I’d installed and we played, and then I left with my disc, you could instantly buy that game with no downloads.”
Kinda cool.
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Uhm what are you on about again? You can still be all digital
Yes,by paying full price for 6 months old games.
Previous model would allow you to buy disc for cheap at retail(or from a friend) and add it to your digital library,not that hard to understand.You could completely avoid XBL pricing if you wanted.
I mean,the dream is over now but that was the biggest advantage of that system,imo.Speaking purely from digital standpoint.
lol
Retail would always drop pricing quicker than XBL if for nothing else then for clearance reasons.
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maxy, stop worrying about the industry and just enjoy your vidya.
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Man maxy you need to put the meds away. No one understands your reasoning. What are you even talking about?
Not sure what is so hard to understand here.
Before:buying a disc gets you digital licence,sold at retail
After:buying a disc get you...disc
Digital licence can be only bought on Xbox Live.
/goes back to bat cave
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(http://i.imgur.com/AZsYQv8.jpg)
... Still douching it up.
Cliffy B needs to be face fucked by a sidewinder missile. That, or his PR team need to tell him to get his silky ass off Twitter
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You'd think CliffyB would be happy that he'll sell more game to the people who have now decided to buy an Xbone. I'm sure that's several hundred people.
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Maxy are you saying that the previous draconian drm by ms where you could only sell games through participating channels and ms got a cut from every sale would result in cheaper games?
As opposed to lets say, me buying a second hand game from ebay for 30 euro a week after launch?
:derp
Maybe its a language barrier thing, but I dont understand your posts when you type more then one sentence.
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I'm surprised MS did such a complete reversal. They could have just cut out the 24 hour check-ins and/or added an offline mode, with some restrictions on what you could do offline.
Oh well, I still don't see myself ever getting one.
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Some people are mad about it.
(http://i.imgur.com/bQELwwq.jpg)
Although this is the same guy who thinks that the original Wii was a sales failure because he goes into "thousands of homes" for his job and sees "every Wii unhooked."
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If the 180 and PS4 end up even they're going to say that it would have given the 180 the edge.
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Maxy are you saying that the previous draconian drm by ms where you could only sell games through participating channels and ms got a cut from every sale would result in cheaper games?
As opposed to lets say, me buying a second hand game from ebay for 30 euro a week after launch?
:derp
Maybe its a language barrier thing, but I dont understand your posts when you type more then one sentence.
Bold thing is false.
As for game pricing in general,no it would not make games cheaper.But you could order a disc from Amazon(because you have a discount there) and easily add it to your digital library.
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I havent had the time to follow the Xbone DRM scandal and subsequent retraction in full detail, but all I know currently is that always online DRM is bullshit. Mainly due to the fact that your entertainment is governed by servers that will not always be online, not always be functional, and be dealing with a buttload of other traffic.
Maybe in the future when everything is online all the time, and floating in our magical digital cloud, this kind of shit would be viable. But no, computers and consoles and shit are unfortunately still governed by physical laws
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I suppose you are right,we'll never know.
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As much as I'm all about laughing at Xbox fans right now, I understand maxy's point. For people who really wanted an all-digital future, having multiple options to purchase a game was going to be beneficial. Just think of Steamworks games. If a game comes with a code that activates on Steam, it doesn't matter where I buy it, as I can still add it to my Steam library regardless. So, I log on to Steam, it's full price. I go over to GreenManGaming and it's $10 off and there's 20% off coupon. Boom, I'll buy it from there. Or maybe I've got a Target gift card. I'll use that and buy the retail disc and still activate it on Steam.
Now, there's nothing stopping Microsoft from still offering a digital SKU to retail partners, so I'm certainly not on board with the narrative that whining gamers ruined this awesome thing. However, if the status quo is maintained, we're back to Microsoft's shop being the only place in town to buy digital games. Best Buy running a gnarly sale on Titanfall, but you'd rather have the digital version and Microsoft's store is charging full price? Well, you've got a decision to make.
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You guys ruined Titanfall in the irc chat for me. I keep reading it as Tittyfall
TIT ANVIL
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Lol so maxy was ok with all this shit just because he didn't have to keep the disc in the console? Smh.
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No I was not *okay* with all that shit.
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You are right.
I'm upset there was no will to remove the crap and leave the good things.
Like giving an option to remove 24 hour limit for people that don't want to trade or "share" games.
Removing that idiotic one friend only rule
Used retail?I don't care,industry created it and they should deal with it
In the end MS managed to anger me twice.First time they dragged me in 24 hour mandatory internet clusterfuck,second time by removing any chance of decent digital pricing on consoles.
Kinda funny when I think about it.
:lol :(
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Why do you think MS would decrease price a lot when their xbl prices are total shit now?
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I'm confused. Is maxy really invested in this? Lol. Pretty sure dude is playing along.
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the fuck at some of the articles on tech blogs today
one week ago they're raging just like the rest of the internet
today they write these pie-in-the-sky "think about what it coulda meant for THE FUTURE!!! :'(" puff pieces shaming consumers
fuck tech and gaming journalists
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Word.
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the fuck at some of the articles on tech blogs today
one week ago they're raging just like the rest of the internet
today they write these pie-in-the-sky "think about what it coulda meant for THE FUTURE!!! :'(" puff pieces shaming consumers
fuck tech and gaming journalists
so strange
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Why do you think MS would decrease price a lot when their xbl prices are total shit now?
I think his plan was to buy cheap disc copies and install then and never use the disc again, apparently that isn't possible without 24 hours check ins.
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Why do you think MS would decrease price a lot when their xbl prices are total shit now?
I think his plan was to buy cheap disc copies and install then and never use the disc again, apparently that isn't possible without 24 hours check ins.
It's possible with one time activation if you make disc useless afterwards.
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Who would sell these cheap copies that won't get sold now?
I mean now you will be able to get even cheaper copies.
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I'm confused. Is maxy really invested in this? Lol. Pretty sure dude is playing along.
He claims he isn't but Cliff B claims he's just trolling to get a rise out of GAF