Reddit detectives will post his address, it will turn out to be the wrong address, and the people that live there will sue Reddit out of business. (http://i.imgur.com/iXQ3xKg.gif)
:rock :rock :rock RACE WAR!!!!! :rock :rock :rock
In reality, a lot of stupid white liberals are going to be consumed with white guilt and clog the facebook feeds. Idiots were claiming that the treatment the fat, illiterate moron got was racism. They also defended the use of cracker.
Nobody defends black people as much as white liberals. I see a lot of idiots claim there will be riots but I don't see it. A lot of black people in Florida live in fear of the gun toting honkies that occupy a lot of the state.
You really think Trayvon was completely innocent? The media has whitewashed the hell out of his backstory. Kid was dealing drugs and he had womens jewelry in his room that he obviously stole. The fact that the media chose to use an old childhood picture as opposed to the ones where he's trying to look "thug" is disgusting.
StealthFan hasn't really left an impression on me before. He always this shitty?
if you commit a crime you deserve to die (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/troll.png)You really think Trayvon was completely innocent? The media has whitewashed the hell out of his backstory. Kid was dealing drugs and he had womens jewelry in his room that he obviously stole. The fact that the media chose to use an old childhood picture as opposed to the ones where he's trying to look "thug" is disgusting.
Are you telling me that Trayvon being hood makes his murder justified? Him being hood doesn't change the altercation.
I don't think he deserved to die for wearing a hood. I just think it's likely he attacked Zimmerman.
I don't think he deserved to die for wearing a hood. I just think it's likely he attacked Zimmerman.
While I am sure Zimmerman, who once again isn't white ffs, isn't a saint either.
That said, what does training in kickboxing and MMA have to do with anything?
Why doesn't this gated community security cameras if they're willing to go as far as use gates?hes not real neighborhood watch, he just liked to "patrol" the area on his own.
Isn't Zimmerman's story that once the operator told him to stop he went back to his car and was attacked by Trayvon? It still makes no sense that the kid being followed turned around and decided to pursue the guy following him, but according to Zimmerman's side he apparently did listen to the operator.
Oh I dont believe for a second that trayvon initiated the attack in the way that zimmerman says. Its way too convenient for him and flips the situation to make trayvon out to be the pursuer.Why doesn't this gated community security cameras if they're willing to go as far as use gates?hes not real neighborhood watch, he just liked to "patrol" the area on his own.Isn't Zimmerman's story that once the operator told him to stop he went back to his car and was attacked by Trayvon? It still makes no sense that the kid being followed turned around and decided to pursue the guy following him, but according to Zimmerman's side he apparently did listen to the operator.
no, in the 911 call he tells the operator hes going after trayvon anyway, and in trayvons call to his friend he tells her that hes trying to get away from zimmerman who was following him. there is zero evidence of trayvon initiating an attack except for zimmermans ever-changing story.
Unless a conservative was committing the crime, then they deserve a second chance.if you commit a crime you deserve to die (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/troll.png)You really think Trayvon was completely innocent? The media has whitewashed the hell out of his backstory. Kid was dealing drugs and he had womens jewelry in his room that he obviously stole. The fact that the media chose to use an old childhood picture as opposed to the ones where he's trying to look "thug" is disgusting.
Are you telling me that Trayvon being hood makes his murder justified? Him being hood doesn't change the altercation.
This is the way actual conservatives think, yes.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there no plans to charge Zimmerman with anything related to this until it got picked up as a national story?
:rock :aah Kill Whitey :rock :aahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnAFCLGWl_Y
Reddit detectives will post his address, it will turn out to be the wrong address, and the people that live there will sue Reddit out of business. (http://i.imgur.com/iXQ3xKg.gif)
Unless a conservative was committing the crime, then they deserve a second chance.if you commit a crime you deserve to die (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/troll.png)You really think Trayvon was completely innocent? The media has whitewashed the hell out of his backstory. Kid was dealing drugs and he had womens jewelry in his room that he obviously stole. The fact that the media chose to use an old childhood picture as opposed to the ones where he's trying to look "thug" is disgusting.
Are you telling me that Trayvon being hood makes his murder justified? Him being hood doesn't change the altercation.
This is the way actual conservatives think, yes.
What? Jack McCoy never wanted to take a plea bargain. He'd go rant at Adam Schiff until the old dude said "Fine, fine, take it to trial, but you're going to need something better..." just to get McCoy out of his office. At which point the lawyers start sifting through the evidence again until they spot something new which changes their whole understanding of the case, leading to the slow zoom-in confession scene when the suspect (or society wife who they deduced was the real culprit) pours their soul out.My only regret is that I can't Like this post twice.
All of this being necessary because Briscoe was the worst detective in the world, whose derpy disregard for procedure meant at least one key piece of evidence would be suppressed every single episode.
Zimmerman was specifically told not to follow the kid, he did anyway
If he walks this sets a very fucked precedent that people can just follow someone minding their own fucking business, shoot them dead and then claim a self-defense struggle took place.
If he walks this sets a very fucked precedent that people can just follow someone minding their own fucking business, shoot them dead and then claim a self-defense struggle took place.
You misunderstand. If the community is gated and has a problem with robberies, where are there no security cameras recording this altercation?
If he walks this sets a very fucked precedent that people can just follow someone minding their own fucking business, shoot them dead and then claim a self-defense struggle took place.
I don't even know what you're saying? My point is Zimmerman followed the kid and instigated the whole episode. It bothers me that any violence from TM is apparently good enough to shoot him but not a defense of his own person after being stalked. Apparently in Florida if you don't manage to flee a vigilante, you're well and truly screwed.
I don't even know what you're saying? My point is Zimmerman followed the kid and instigated the whole episode. It bothers me that any violence from TM is apparently good enough to shoot him but not a defense of his own person after being stalked. Apparently in Florida if you don't manage to flee a vigilante, you're well and truly screwed.
That was a blanket statement, not personal though it sounded that way...my bad.
Anonymous, do you ever write a first post on a topic that's not poorly thought out and needlessly confrontational? Seriously.
Other than that I am hopeful that regardless of the outcome we can figure out how to finally put our grandparents shit behind us and realize this color shit doesn't matter to anyone but the elderly and tge uneducated and continued media/personal attention that's overblown like this serves nobodies' b wished.
uhhhh bro that's not true, at all. I'm not saying people are running around in white sheets today, but racism is far from dead. If anything this case should be a testament to that, with the pretty blatant "well he was a thug so who cares if he died!" statements flying around everywhere.If he walks this sets a very fucked precedent that people can just follow someone minding their own fucking business, shoot them dead and then claim a self-defense struggle took place.
Glad you were there to verify the story.....
two things
1). As a black man I am interested to see how this turns out.
2) I don't need people like you stirring this shit up for me.
Sorry but that's some real talk for you, how about you let us figure this out?
Other than that I am hopeful that regardless of the outcome we can figure out how to finally put our grandparents shit behind us and realize this color shit doesn't matter to anyone but the elderly and tge uneducated and continued media/personal attention that's overblown like this serves nobodies' b wished.
The real culprits are the black people who celebrated too much when OJ got off. We're still paying the price, my brothers and sisters.
The most at fault person here is the one in the media fanning the goddamn flames for ratings.
Racism is totally over guys, I know because a black woman in Florida was just sentenced to 20 years... for firing a warning shot. That hit no one. Stand your ground! (unless the ground you're on is, you know, black and shit)
Racism is totally over guys, I know because a black woman in Florida was just sentenced to 20 years... for firing a warning shot. That hit no one. Stand your ground! (unless the ground you're on is, you know, black and shit)
Also I think if a cop did what Zimmerman did, he would at least lose his job.
Also I think if a cop did what Zimmerman did, he would at least lose his job.
They should have charged Zimmerman with manslaughter instead of 2nd degree murder. Would have been far easier to convict him.
Since when do cops lose their jobs over anything? :lol
My mom told me there are only 6 people on the jury, and 5 are mothers; is that true?
Hopefully Zimmerman, his brother, and father find themselves on the opposite side of a Stand Your Ground situation.
Other than that I am hopeful that regardless of the outcome we can figure out how to finally put our grandparents shit behind us and realize this color shit doesn't matter to anyone but the elderly and tge uneducated and continued media/personal attention that's overblown like this serves nobodies' b wished.
sounds like you dont know a lot of young white people
Since when do cops lose their jobs over anything? :lol
My mom told me there are only 6 people on the jury, and 5 are mothers; is that true?
Yes, and all are women. Apparently they took a shit ton of notes earlier in the case but have seemed impatient the past few days according to court reporters. Smart money is they've already decided one way or another, barring something big in the last part of the trial.
I heard the prosecution has sucked, and the gf witness bombed on the stand.
On Wednesday, Judicial Watch announced that the Department of Justice had turned over documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request showing that the Community Relations Service (CRS), a small division of the DOJ, was sent to Sanford, Florida after the Trayvon Martin shooting to help manage rallies and protests.http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/10/Judicial-watch-documents-DOJ
In April 2013, Breitbart News' Lee Stranahan first reported the role of the CRS in Sanford.
The new documents show that from March 25 through April 12, 2012, the CRS spent thousands of dollars helping organize and “work” marches and demonstrations regarding Trayvon Martin. Tasks included:
Working “marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain”;
Providing “support for protest deployment in Florida”;
Providing “technical assistance to the City of Sanford, event organizers, and law enforcement agencies for the march and rally on March 31”;
Providing “technical assistance, conciliation, and onsite mediation during demonstrations planned in Sanford.”
The judge has told the jurors today that they're allowed to consider manslaughter instead of 2nd degree murder. Two guesses how this trial is gonna end.
I haven't bothered to follow this trial. How likely is Zimmerman going to get a guilty verdict for manslaughter?
I haven't bothered to follow this trial. How likely is Zimmerman going to get a guilty verdict for manslaughter?
No idea but it is interesting that the 6 person jury is all women (5 white) and if any of them are mothers that would probably make them biased against Zimmerman. But the prosecution's star witnesses was a girl who was on the phone with Trayvon right before he was shot and she was caught lying under oath that she wasn't able to go to Trayvon's funeral since she was in the hospital. She said that the reason she really didn't go was because she felt guilty since she was the last person to talk to him and didn't want to go see his body.
I think most of the jury would feel that this wasn't really self-defense but there's definitely enough doubt for at least one person to feel uneasy about sentencing Zimmerman.
Apparently the prosecution was on point today and the jury seemed moved. Still not getting my hopes up.
Just curious, do you really think T was just walking down the street and Zimmerman then mugged him up?
Just curious, do you really think T was just walking down the street and Zimmerman then mugged him up?
i mean... why do you not?
ITT:
(http://noiselesschatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/uncleruckus.jpg)
He was out fucking shit up, as evidenced by the dangerous skittles and sweet tea he had. You don't go out in public with that shit unless you have ill intentions, man.
Seriously... wtf is wrong with you?
i dunno, it seems more like regular aggressive than passive-aggressive to me
So what was Trayvon doing besides walking down a street late at night, snacks in hand?
Go ahead, what's your theory?
she was caught lying under oath that she wasn't able to go to Trayvon's funeral since she was in the hospital. She said that the reason she really didn't go was because she felt guilty since she was the last person to talk to him and didn't want to go see his body.
she was caught lying under oath that she wasn't able to go to Trayvon's funeral since she was in the hospital. She said that the reason she really didn't go was because she felt guilty since she was the last person to talk to him and didn't want to go see his body.
Where and when did she claim that she didn't go to the funeral because she was in the hospital?
I agree. Outside of petty bickering in this thread I do care and need a link to that
3) Martin wasn't a saint
4) His mom worries me
So what was Trayvon doing besides walking down a street late at night, snacks in hand?
Go ahead, what's your theory?
My Final Fantasy VII manual got tore up from people borrowing the game so much.
So I went to a friends house and stole his manual and put it in my case when I got home.
Someone put a bullet to through my chest. I deserve this.
My Final Fantasy VII manual got tore up from people borrowing the game so much.
So I went to a friends house and stole his manual and put it in my case when I got home.
Someone put a bullet to through my chest. I deserve this.
Hmm... let me preface this by saying I'm definitely on your side on this issue. But I felt it was worth noting that I'm really not feeling this post. I like derisive sarcasm as much as the next person, but this isn't your best work. But maybe it's just me.
Apparently the prosecution was on point today and the jury seemed moved. Still not getting my hopes up.
Just curious, do you really think T was just walking down the street and Zimmerman then mugged him up?
Not casting aspersions here at all.
My Final Fantasy VII manual got tore up from people borrowing the game so much.
So I went to a friends house and stole his manual and put it in my case when I got home.
Someone put a bullet to through my chest. I deserve this.
Hmm... let me preface this by saying I'm definitely on your side on this issue. But I felt it was worth noting that I'm really not feeling this post. I like derisive sarcasm as much as the next person, but this isn't your best work. But maybe it's just me.
I'm just...I'm just not feeling it tonight, Steve. I'm sorry. It is currently 91 degrees outside, and it's night.
ok pd, but it seems you are forgetting that he texted his friends about how cool he thought guns were and also he was a seasoned mma fighter who had rabies. george zimmerman was actually an hero because he saved the entire world from someone who would eventually start the holocaust II.
Manslaughter?
"F**king punks. These a**holes. They always get away." - this person ignored advice to not follow one of these people he'd identified as being guilty of -something- , something happened and a teen was shot dead.
anybody here think that if he does get off we're gonna get a rodney king riot style affair but on a national level? black bore whats the vibe like in da hood?
Black people are all uncultured monkeys whose only means of communication is violence when they don't get what they want. Darkies will litter the streets, watermelon will be sold out at all all farmers markets! Kraft will have to resupply their stock of purple Kool-Aid! As soon as he gets that acquittal me, pd, beezy, maurice, and anyone else who has a drop of black blood on this site will turn into violent thugs, don our hoodies, and rape your women (men for me).
anybody here think that if he does get off we're gonna get a rodney king riot style affair but on a national level? black bore whats the vibe like in da hood?
Black people are all uncultured monkeys whose only means of communication is violence when they don't get what they want, and clearly all want the same thing due to that collective "brain" we share. Darkies will litter the streets, watermelon will be sold out at all all farmers markets! Kraft will have to resupply their stock of purple Kool-Aid! As soon as he gets that acquittal me, pd, beezy, and anyone else who has a drop of black blood on this site will turn into violent thugs, don our hoodies, and rape your women (men for me).
What about taxis
I agree. Outside of petty bickering in this thread I do care and need a link to that
No eschaton is Indian so he must have a taxithose are mostly pakis
:mjpls
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/us/florida-trayvon-martin-case/index.htmlshe was caught lying under oath that she wasn't able to go to Trayvon's funeral since she was in the hospital. She said that the reason she really didn't go was because she felt guilty since she was the last person to talk to him and didn't want to go see his body.
Where and when did she claim that she didn't go to the funeral because she was in the hospital?
I agree. Outside of petty bickering in this thread I do care and need a link to that
Manslaughter?
"F**king punks. These a**holes. They always get away." - this person ignored advice to not follow one of these people he'd identified as being guilty of -something- , something happened and a teen was shot dead.
Rivera then took his argument a step further in asserting that the six female jurors likely empathize with the defendant, saying that "if they were armed, they would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did."
"I see those six ladies putting themselves on that rainy night, in that housing complex that has just been burglarized by three or four different groups of black youngsters from the adjacent community," Rivera said. "So it's a dark night, a six-foot-two inch, hoodie-wearing stranger is in the immediate housing complex. How would the ladies of that jury have reacted? I submit, that if they were armed, they would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did."
Quote from: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/geraldo-msnbc-sharpton-pressured-prosecutors-to-charge-zimmermanRivera then took his argument a step further in asserting that the six female jurors likely empathize with the defendant, saying that "if they were armed, they would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did."
"I see those six ladies putting themselves on that rainy night, in that housing complex that has just been burglarized by three or four different groups of black youngsters from the adjacent community," Rivera said. "So it's a dark night, a six-foot-two inch, hoodie-wearing stranger is in the immediate housing complex. How would the ladies of that jury have reacted? I submit, that if they were armed, they would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did."
:what
Holy shit, that was the lawyer's actual statement?
I didn’t know this until just now. But yesterday MSNBC momentarily aired a courtroom image of Trayvon Martin’s dead body at the crime scene. It was seemingly accidental and they quickly panned away. Our video team saw it but didn’t run it, which was totally the right decision by every standard we’ve always followed. I didn’t see it myself or even know about it until a few moments ago when Gawker ran the image.
I’m sure it makes me sound a bit naive saying this but I was shocked when I saw it. Of course, I’ve seen dead bodies before. And I’ve seen countless crime scene photos of dead bodies. In terms of who’s guilty and who’s innocent, it is well worth noting just for the record that seeing a dead body is inherently inflammatory and disquieting. It’s not probative at all in terms of determining guilt, which is why there’s usually a lot of jousting in a courtroom about what jurors get exposed to.
But I wanted to share a personal reaction when I saw it. I felt guilty journalistically that it hasn’t been seen. Not guilty as us, TPM, but guilty in terms of journalism in general. We’re not going to run it because we’ve always had a pretty conservative editorial standard about running images that show gratuitous violence or death, dead bodies, etc. Whatever the merits of that standard, it’s probably not the right decision to depart from it now in this one case at the end of a trial we have not covered closely. And in any case, it’s already published if you want to see it. Before I link to it, seriously, think it over before you click. It’s upsetting. Here it is.
But back to the image itself. Seeing it, for all the tabloid coverage and endless CNN cable news coverage of the case, a big part of me feels like the real story here has been glossed over. Whatever the ins and outs of the legalities here, the odds of this happening to a white kid are just very slim. I knew that an hour ago. But I’m confronting it in a different way now.
I don’t have any other wisdom to share yet beside that. And that’s not much. But I immediately discussed this with our editors after I saw it because I felt it was wrong in a way that people not see it - for all the reasons I described above. So, as part of what TPM is about, it was incumbent on me to share it with you.
Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen people taking his dead body and photoshopping it as well.
Quote from: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/geraldo-msnbc-sharpton-pressured-prosecutors-to-charge-zimmermanRivera then took his argument a step further in asserting that the six female jurors likely empathize with the defendant, saying that "if they were armed, they would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did."
"I see those six ladies putting themselves on that rainy night, in that housing complex that has just been burglarized by three or four different groups of black youngsters from the adjacent community," Rivera said. "So it's a dark night, a six-foot-two inch, hoodie-wearing stranger is in the immediate housing complex. How would the ladies of that jury have reacted? I submit, that if they were armed, they would have shot and killed Trayvon Martin a lot sooner than George Zimmerman did."
:what
Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen people taking his dead body and photoshopping it as well.
anyone who saw the front page of reddit yesterday has seen it.
I feel bad for the family and all but a tiny part of me wants him to be acquitted just to witness the epic shitstorm.
Actually a pretty big part of me, now that I think about it.
nothings gonna happen except a lot of people being upset, angry and depressed while a lot of assholes high-five each other
FOH
And what are the arguments of pro-Zimmerman people?
Why not both?
The verdict has to be coming in soon, right?
The verdict has to be coming in soon, right?
Longer it takes the more likely it ends in a hung jury or acquittal, generally speaking.
expected
prosecution did a poor job of showing this wasn't self defense
not even manslaughter :lol oh my godddddddddddagashdfaksf embarrassed to be white right now
TIME TO TAKE IT TOTHE STREETSTWITTER
not even manslaughter :lol oh my godddddddddddagashdfaksf embarrassed to be white right now
TIME TO TAKE IT TOTHE STREETSTWITTER
Michael Vick apologists are coming out of the woodworks:
Aaron MDM Hylton @itsmdm 23m
Mike Vick did 2 years for dogs.. George Zimmerman kills a human #NotGuilty ..welcome to America 🇺🇸
Raven ♔ @thaatsoravenn 10m
Welcome to America. The land of the free and the home of no justice. Where killing a dog is a crime but killing innocent children is fine.
Will Smith @DaFreshPrinceX 27m
Welcome to America, where you goto jail for killing dogs but walk free for killing teenagers
King Kenneth @AnotherLevel_K 28m
U kill dogs u get jail time, u kill a black unarmed Teenager u go home. Welcome to America.… http://instagram.com/p/buqs-Cm7Sj/
armed neighborhood watch vigilantardism in a gated community sounds like a wholly white activity to menot even manslaughter :lol oh my godddddddddddagashdfaksf embarrassed to be white right now
I know right? I'd rather be Hispanic right now...wait.
L Ǝ O И @leyawn 42m
remember when plaxico burress shot himself in the leg and went to jail
armed neighborhood watch vigilantardism in a gated community sounds like a wholly white activity to menot even manslaughter :lol oh my godddddddddddagashdfaksf embarrassed to be white right now
I know right? I'd rather be Hispanic right now...wait.
"If you're a black man and you don't remain vigilant of and obsequious to white people's panic in your presence then you must be prepared to be arrested, be beaten, be shot through the heart and lung and die on the way home to watch a basketball game with your family."
Reddit detectives will post his address, it will turn out to be the wrong address, and the people that live there will sue Reddit out of business. (http://i.imgur.com/iXQ3xKg.gif)
brb killing a white family for equality
brb killing a white family for equality
ok reverse hitler
seriously tho fuck this piece of shit. i hope someone with a lack of common sense kills his ass. also fuck every piece of trash that defended george zimmerman. jesus fucking christ he hunted down beat and killed a kid and all he had to do was make up a dumbass inconsistent lie and that was enough to get him off FUCK THAT
(CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.
here's some double up RAGE:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/Quote(CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.
brb killing a white family for equality
ok reverse hitler
People are like "TM could have ran away" he tried that at first you dumbshits. :maf
Seems the NAACP is seeking federal civil rights charges.
I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.
I guess the Saudis were right all along.
I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.
I guess the Saudis were right all along.
here's some double up RAGE:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/Quote(CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.
I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.
I guess the Saudis were right all along.
she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"
I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.
I guess the Saudis were right all along.
They even dress dogs as people, while kids starve in Africa.
she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"
not really; women serve more time for killing their abusive husbands than men do for killing their wives.
I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.
I guess the Saudis were right all along.
They even dress dogs as people, while kids starve in Africa.
We also have more advertisements about animal abuse and neglect than we do of kids starving or homeless out on the street.she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"
not really; women serve more time for killing their abusive husbands than men do for killing their wives.
Our society is built on shitting on people who aren't white, straight and male. And a bunch of people want to act like this isn't the case time and time again.
Which brings me to something that always baffled me about America.
First of all, I LOVE dogs. I've raised plenty over the years even with the huge problems that come with owning a dog in Saudi, I've always been an animal lover as I've learned a lot about animals by watching NatGeo shows as a kid. I think I may know the eating, sleeping and mating habits of most animals and I enjoy learning more about them.
But why the fuck is it that in America killing a dog is seen as a bigger atrocity than killing a man? Let's even ignore the fact that many pounds and such kill unwanted dogs if they overstayed their welcome in the US. Just because you've had a dog you loved as your pet doesn't mean that the death of some other dog should be valued over a man's life. I'm not condoning killing dogs cause that's distinguished mentally-challenged, but the fact that killing a dog is a bigger deal in the US than killing a child or teenager shows a lot of fucked up values. I know plenty of people who tell me they never cry when human beings die on screen but sob their hearts out when a dog does. I mean, I can understand being sad about a guy, girl or dog's death in a story if it was handled well enough that I got invested in the character, but the fact that any old dog dying on screen, as in not for real, makes you cry means that there's something fucked up there.
Which brings me to something that always baffled me about America.
First of all, I LOVE dogs. I've raised plenty over the years even with the huge problems that come with owning a dog in Saudi, I've always been an animal lover as I've learned a lot about animals by watching NatGeo shows as a kid. I think I may know the eating, sleeping and mating habits of most animals and I enjoy learning more about them.
But why the fuck is it that in America killing a dog is seen as a bigger atrocity than killing a man? Let's even ignore the fact that many pounds and such kill unwanted dogs if they overstayed their welcome in the US. Just because you've had a dog you loved as your pet doesn't mean that the death of some other dog should be valued over a man's life. I'm not condoning killing dogs cause that's distinguished mentally-challenged, but the fact that killing a dog is a bigger deal in the US than killing a child or teenager shows a lot of fucked up values. I know plenty of people who tell me they never cry when human beings die on screen but sob their hearts out when a dog does. I mean, I can understand being sad about a guy, girl or dog's death in a story if it was handled well enough that I got invested in the character, but the fact that any old dog dying on screen, as in not for real, makes you cry means that there's something fucked up there.
because dogs arent stealing our money and our women
There were basically 3 undisputable facts here
1. Zimmerman followed Trayvon and instigated the fight
2. Trayvon was unarmed
3. Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon
I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.
There were basically 3 undisputable facts here
1. Zimmerman followed Trayvon and instigated the fight
How is that a "fact?"
Seriously. No one ever go to Florida for vacation again. Build a wall around that fucking shithole.south beach bikinis tho : :lawd
There were basically 3 undisputable facts here
1. Zimmerman followed Trayvon and instigated the fight
How is that a "fact?"
oh for FUCK'S SAKE
FUCK OFF AND DIE JAYDUBYA
seriously, you're the worst, just [walk around a neighborhood in Florida with skittles and arizona tea while being black]
I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.
JayDubya just gets off on being the contrarian. Even if it means looking like a dumbfuck.
Nope. I'm just often dumbfounded and irritated by the stupidity I find myself reading and want to respond; something is wrong on the internet.Okay, I'll bite: Jay, give us your version of events.
"My" version? Uhhh.
How about this:
The testimony of the witnesses in the trial does not give us much, if any, data on how the fight started. According to that testimony, it did end with Martin on top of Zimmerman hitting his head into concrete. He has documented wounds to that effect.
Zimmerman stated he was physically attacked first. He doesn't deny questioning Martin; he probably was a bit of an asshole, even. He's allowed to walk on streets and he's allowed to be an asshole. Those things aren't dangerous and they aren't illegal. If he physically attacked Martin first, he cannot use a weapon and claim self-defense. But if on the contrary he was attacked by Martin, he could certainly do so.
The state had to prove that Zimmerman attacked Martin; the prosecution failed to do that. They probably could not do that with the data on hand. It is probably accurate to say that the original outcome of not pursuing charges was due to this lack of collaborating evidence; it seems that this went to trial for purely political rather than logical reasons.
I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.
Agreed, I'll never understand the US legal system with decisions like this.
Earlier in the day, jurors asked the court for clarification on its instructions regarding manslaughter. Such a query couldn't even have been posed a few days ago: Judge Debra Nelson ruled Thursday, over the defense's vehement objection, to include manslaughter as an option for jurors, in addition to a second-degree murder charge.
To convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, the jurors would have had to believe that he "intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin." That charge could have carried a sentence of up to 30 years in prison, though the jury was not told of that possible sentence.
For second-degree murder, the jurors would have had to believe that Martin's unlawful killing was "done from ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent" and would be "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."
There were basically 3 undisputable facts here
1. Zimmerman followed Trayvon and instigated the fight
2. Trayvon was unarmed
3. Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon
I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.
When asked by O'Mara if she detected ill will, spite or hatred in his voice when he said to the 911 dispatcher: 'F***ing punks. These a*******. They always get away', she answered no
Also - what happened to the claim zim was trained and an MMA practitioner?
Given he is at least three times the weight of Tray what was the explanation of how Tray ended up over powering zim?
smh mexicans
smh mexicans
He's a Peruvian kraut breh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBtSN7-zoj0
"I hope the police start cracking skulls"
"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"
... I don't know what to make of these comments.
"I hope the police start cracking skulls"
"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"
... I don't know what to make of these comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBtSN7-zoj0
"I hope the police start cracking skulls"
"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"
... I don't know what to make of these comments.
>Not getting the herp derp youtube plugin for your browser.
this isnt real ::) its a video from canada; theres mountains in the background ffs. no one is fucking rioting, but there are assholes renaming videos to provoke anger. stop spreading fud
Thank you based Positive."I hope the police start cracking skulls"
"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"
... I don't know what to make of these comments.
>Not getting the herp derp youtube plugin for your browser.
Those comments were made by the people in the video.
Zimmerman stated he was physically attacked first. He doesn't deny questioning Martin; he probably was a bit of an asshole, even. He's allowed to walk on streets and he's allowed to be an asshole. Those things aren't dangerous and they aren't illegal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBtSN7-zoj0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBtSN7-zoj0
That's Vancouver, Canada.
Top and bottom of this sorry mess : Zim acted on his prejudice , -something- happened that HE instigated and as a consequence aninnocentteen is dead.
Bullshit
If you are going to walk around and make judgement calls base on your own predetermined vision of people and what you suspect they have done that you take so far to instigate a confrontation that , absolutely regardless of what did or didn't happen, results in you shooting an innocent person dead than that is the utter height of "dangerous"
Top and bottom of this sorry mess : Zim acted on his prejudice , -something- happened that HE instigated and as a consequence an innocent teen is dead.
None of this happens if Zim doesn't act on his prejudice
Bullshit
If you are going to walk around and make judgement calls base on your own predetermined vision of people and what you suspect they have done that you take so far to instigate a confrontation that , absolutely regardless of what did or didn't happen, results in you shooting an innocent person dead than that is the utter height of "dangerous"
Top and bottom of this sorry mess : Zim acted on his prejudice , -something- happened that HE instigated and as a consequence an innocent teen is dead.
None of this happens if Zim doesn't act on his prejudice
bububu so confusing! grey areas! we werent really there so we dont know!
for real tho, all that is proven fact so to try and argue innocence is disingenuous and fucking sick
He's allowed to walk on streets and he's allowed to be an asshole. Those things aren't dangerous and they aren't illegal. If he physically attacked Martin first, he cannot use a weapon and claim self-defense. But if on the contrary he was attacked by Martin, he could certainly do so. Who attacked whom first is crucial to the case.
I would donate upwards of 500 dollars to the cause of seeing Zimmerman or a member of his family shot dead.
I would donate upwards of 500 dollars to the cause of seeing Zimmerman or a member of his family shot dead. I don't care if that's right or wrong or any of that shit, that's the only justice there can be for me now. Your laws around guns and murder are a fucking joke, your media is a joke. Feel so fucking sorry for Trayvon's family.
Why's it so hard for some people to realize and recognize that racism permeates our society? Jesus. The denial.
n't think Dubya was arguing innocence, he was pointing out that there are alternative stories and hence guilt couldn't be prove
suggesting his family members should die is perhaps a bit extreme
First, you're proposing collective punishment. Whatever Zimmerman "deserves," I think the perspective of his family member has to be taken into consideration when you're talking about, oh, fucking killing them.
Second, while the incident has highlighted a bunch of shit in America, I'm going to go ahead and roll my eyes at any Euro pretensions of moral superiority. At least Martin's killer was prosecuted, which is more than I can say for Jean Charles de Menezes.
I still don't understand, even if Trayvon had bruised knuckles to indicate he was an aggressor, why he didn't have his own right to self defense from the armed man who was pursuing him and preventing him from "getting away."
again - how believable is it that someone who ran away from someone would then go back and confront them? I mean ... that just seems a bit crazy.
Lets face it - i'm sure Zim wasn't shouting "young man, please stop so i may put to you some questions!"
I would donate upwards of 500 dollars to the cause of seeing Zimmerman or a member of his family shot dead. I don't care if that's right or wrong or any of that shit, that's the only justice there can be for me now. Your laws around guns and murder are a fucking joke, your media is a joke. Feel so fucking sorry for Trayvon's family.
so how much longer til the GOP starts advocating a return to slavery?
so how much longer til the GOP starts advocating a return to slavery?
What a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged thing to say. You're a real credit to your party.
I would donate upwards of 500 dollars to the cause of seeing Zimmerman or a member of his family shot dead. I don't care if that's right or wrong or any of that shit, that's the only justice there can be for me now. Your laws around guns and murder are a fucking joke, your media is a joke. Feel so fucking sorry for Trayvon's family.
Even the more liberal people on my Facebook think that Martin had some guilt in it. I'm confused as fuck.
Now I haven't followed the trial as much as I probably should have, but Zimmerman definitely should not have walked. Did Martin allegedly "slam his head into the concrete" before or after Zimmerman stalked him? Would a lanky black kid be able to throw down a 200lb MMA guy?
the defence had a lot of witness testimony as to zimmerman being an unfit sack of shit with zero fighting skills: "i didn't even want to let him shadow box for fear the shadow would win".
Quotethe defence had a lot of witness testimony as to zimmerman being an unfit sack of shit with zero fighting skills: "i didn't even want to let him shadow box for fear the shadow would win".
a lot of this could easily have been stage managed too.
Zimmerman apparently has a history of violence - yet when it comes to court everyone has a wise crack about how much of a pussy he is? Basically all that's come out in the run up to this is lots of innuendo about Tray and a lot of "he's just a guy, you know... " and "if you were frightened by a black man you'd do the same!" bollox. But anyways... Let's role with this all being true - that all the stuff about him being super intelligent and a great student is all true, but the bits which might implicate him in anyway turn out to be false....
So... if it's true he couldn't fight despite being a doorman, despite being a security guard, despite being in fights with law officers, despite training MMA then he's even MORE negligent and even more at fault for what happened : no ability to look after himself, potentially too quick to draw his gun, but was acting as an aggressor and self appointed neighbourhood watch master....
I dunno why i'm typing at this point - everyone has an opinion on this but the whole trial just stinks.
Also - yeah, given the 50lbs difference and given that the on-the-ground struggle lasted for quite a sustained period and, according to Dat Animation , Tray was able to drag Zim around whilst on top of him to three separate locations.
Also - what sort of MMA club wouldn't be covering ground technique?
what i mean is, when i hear that testimony, i equate it to how i imagine 90% of people in tapout gear handling themselves in a real fight.
knocked down in one punch then spending the next 45 seconds screaming as they fumble for their firearm sounds right on the money.
I’m a criminal defense lawyer in Wisconsin, but I’ll tell you my reaction to the Zimmerman verdict today. I’ve had friends in Florida asking for my take. I haven’t watched the trial very closely (it seems like an ordinary criminal case to me in many respects). But I was astounded that the defense would put on a “self-defense” argument without the defendant testifying. In most civilized jurisdictions, the burden is on the defense to prove, at least more likely than not, that the law breaking was done for reasons of self-defense. I couldn’t figure out how they could do this without the defendant’s testimony.
I got curious and read the jury instructions Friday night and, I was wrong. In Florida, if self-defense is even suggested, it’s the states obligation to prove it’s absence beyond a reasonable doubt(!). That’s crazy. But ‘not guilty’ was certainly a reasonable result in this case. As I told a friend in Tampa today though, if you’re ever in a heated argument with anyone, and you’re pretty sure there aren’t any witnesses, it’s always best to kill the other person. They can’t testify, you don’t have to testify, no one else has any idea what happened; how can the state ever prove beyond a doubt is wasn’t self-defense? Holy crap! What kind of system is that?
"I want to know if it's true, and I don't know if it's true, that Trayvon Martin was looking to procure firearms, or growing marijuana, or looking to make lean," [Robert Zimmerman] told Piers Morgan and Don Lemon.
That awkward moment when George Zimmerman's brother says the family fears vigilantes who might try to take the law into their own hands.
I'm talking about the one with the tpm quote and the quote from Zim's brother.Oh yeah.
black men need to start shopping at mens wearhouse. i for one would feel safer.
Quote from: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/07/how_much_is_about_florida_law.php?ref=fpblgI got curious and read the jury instructions Friday night and, I was wrong. In Florida, if self-defense is even suggested, it’s the states obligation to prove it’s absence beyond a reasonable doubt(!). That’s crazy. But ‘not guilty’ was certainly a reasonable result in this case. As I told a friend in Tampa today though, if you’re ever in a heated argument with anyone, and you’re pretty sure there aren’t any witnesses, it’s always best to kill the other person. They can’t testify, you don’t have to testify, no one else has any idea what happened; how can the state ever prove beyond a doubt is wasn’t self-defense? Holy crap! What kind of system is that?
/pol/ is (still) on fire.
(http://i.imgur.com/uW1X6A3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ReUPXAa.jpg?1)
Joe Scarborough is a piece of shit, as always. This idiot is going to pretend to be above the fray?
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/george-zimmerman-trial-expands-deep-divide-94125.html?hp=l1 (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/george-zimmerman-trial-expands-deep-divide-94125.html?hp=l1)
Also, this quote is fucking gold:QuoteI am also not sure how it is that the right-wing’s professional chattering classes usually find themselves on the other side of African-Americans in racially sensitive cases.
The photoshops I have seen posted on /pol/ since the trial began have been pure fire. Love it.
WHY IS EVERYONE CONTACTING ME TO KNOW MY THOUGHTS ON THE ZIMMERMAN TRIAL
FUCK
Peaceful vigils, peaceful marches, peaceful demonstrations...as expected.
QuoteI am also not sure how it is that the right-wing’s professional chattering classes usually find themselves on the other side of African-Americans in racially sensitive cases.
I had a long talk with my 15 year old nephew today and it was fucking awful.
its really painful to hear a young man come to realize that no matter how good his deeds and no matter how good his grades, his color will always be an impediment. what the fuck do you say to that?
after something like this how do you honestly tell these young black teenagers their livelihoods, their futures, their ability to just be happy being who they are isn't truncated?
:rofl :rofl :roflThe photoshops I have seen posted on /pol/ since the trial began have been pure fire. Love it.
Have you seen...
this one.spoiler (click to show/hide)http://i.imgur.com/9U8PQGx.gif[close]
:what :shaq2 :noah :badass
WHY IS EVERYONE CONTACTING ME TO KNOW MY THOUGHTS ON THE ZIMMERMAN TRIAL
FUCK
Why aren't you out rioting?
Due to the pussification of the African American.
I demand you guys fit the stereotypes I have for you, fucking pussies!
You can stand your ground if you’re white, and you can use a gun to do it. But if you stand your ground with your fists and you’re black, you’re dead.http://davidsimon.com/trayvon/
In the state of Florida, the season on African-Americans now runs year round. Come one, come all. And bring a handgun. The legislators are fine with this blood on their hands. The governor, too. One man accosted another and when it became a fist fight, one man — and one man only — had a firearm. The rest is racial rationalization and dishonorable commentary.
If I were a person of color in Florida, I would pick up a brick and start walking toward that courthouse in Sanford. Those that do not, those that hold the pain and betrayal inside and somehow manage to resist violence — these citizens are testament to a stoic tolerance that is more than the rest of us deserve. I confess, their patience and patriotism is well beyond my own.
Behold, the lewd, pornographic embrace of two great American pathologies: Race and guns, both of which have conspired not only to take the life of a teenager, but to make that killing entirely permissible. I can’t look an African-American parent in the eye for thinking about what they must tell their sons about what can happen to them on the streets of their country. Tonight, anyone who truly understands what justice is and what it requires of a society is ashamed to call himself an American.
It's been one full day since the verdict, time to get on the dead-black-kid gravy train! :drool
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/report-juror-in-zimmerman-case-signs-book-deal?ref=fpb
QuoteYou can stand your ground if you’re white, and you can use a gun to do it. But if you stand your ground with your fists and you’re black, you’re dead.http://davidsimon.com/trayvon/
In the state of Florida, the season on African-Americans now runs year round. Come one, come all. And bring a handgun. The legislators are fine with this blood on their hands. The governor, too. One man accosted another and when it became a fist fight, one man — and one man only — had a firearm. The rest is racial rationalization and dishonorable commentary.
If I were a person of color in Florida, I would pick up a brick and start walking toward that courthouse in Sanford. Those that do not, those that hold the pain and betrayal inside and somehow manage to resist violence — these citizens are testament to a stoic tolerance that is more than the rest of us deserve. I confess, their patience and patriotism is well beyond my own.
Behold, the lewd, pornographic embrace of two great American pathologies: Race and guns, both of which have conspired not only to take the life of a teenager, but to make that killing entirely permissible. I can’t look an African-American parent in the eye for thinking about what they must tell their sons about what can happen to them on the streets of their country. Tonight, anyone who truly understands what justice is and what it requires of a society is ashamed to call himself an American.
Someone's called Penis?
Go home, Anonymous, you're drunk.
Go home, Anonymous, you're drunk.
Not today. I'm tired of hearing how offended people are and how they want to burn shit or see riots. This helps nobody.
Go home, Anonymous, you're drunk.
Not today. I'm tired of hearing how offended people are and how they want to burn shit or see riots. This helps nobody.
So basically this thread is full of white people acting fake-outraged, appropriating your culture, and advocating violence.
Right.
"Okay, well it wasn't you guys per se, but I did feel like yelling at some white liberals over the internet, and this is more convenient than registering at DemocraticUnderground and more satisfying than shouting at episodes of Portlandia, so..."
Himuro Himuro Himuro
???
Himaro Himaro Himaro?
B37 said when they first went into deliberation that they were 3 for acquittal, 2 for manslaughter, 1 for murder.
juror b37 also said she refuses to read newspapers (lines her birdcage with them instead) and that she only heard of the case thru the fucking today show. she also referred to trayvon as "a boy of color" and thought people rioted after the murder :lol
juror b37 also said she refuses to read newspapers (lines her birdcage with them instead) and that she only heard of the case thru the fucking today show. she also referred to trayvon as "a boy of color" and thought people rioted after the murder :lol
What's ironic is half you guys are as bad as the one's on the other side you're insulting with faux intellect.
Outside of PD and Penis I am tired of seeing people whom have fucking 0 idea of what it takes to be a black man/woman take up our side to crutch their conscious.
This verdict is not what I expected nor what I feel was deserved but I'll be damned if I spami ignorant comments (like light one car on fire if ok....) about it. I hope that he hears from Civil Rights and has to answer for chasing down an unarmed man. That is all.
ok lol on the him to penis shit...
Most jurors are going to be people too dumb or spergy to get out of jury duty
its just pathetic that someone like that didnt get screened out by the prosecutors
Yeah, she sounded racist as fuck tbh. She said that Rachel Jeantel wasn't credible because of her education level and the only thing she believed about her testimony was that Trayvon called Zimmerman a creepy-ass cracka, because "this is just the kind of life they're living and the environment they're in".
Devo, do you hang on to your purse when walking close to a black man or cross the other street? Answer honestly.
Okay, please explain your position on sympathizers.
Devo, do you hang on to your purse when walking close to a black man or cross the other street? Answer honestly.
Okay, please explain your position on sympathizers.
Devo, do you hang on to your purse when walking close to a black man or cross the other street? Answer honestly.
Yeah, she sounded racist as fuck tbh. She said that Rachel Jeantel wasn't credible because of her education level and the only thing she believed about her testimony was that Trayvon called Zimmerman a creepy-ass cracka, because "this is just the kind of life they're living and the environment they're in".
...
Okay, please explain your position on sympathizers.
Devo, do you hang on to your purse when walking close to a black man or cross the other street? Answer honestly.
Oh you know, "Billy Donaven" professional dudebro in sales coming over to share how upset that he was that trayvon martLING was killed and that dude totally walked. But I like black people so we're cool bro tyoes and the sicophants on gaf mostly.
walk away...
Not reading any more. Jesus christ. That's almost re-trial type shit.
Some day I'm going to learn how to read twitter. Is the summary that she thinks zimmerman was guilty but he learned his lesson so it's all good? Because if so mistrial this shit right now.
My position is that both sides of this case have their fair share of ignorance on display...from victor cruz saying the hood would be at zimmerman in a year to some idiot here somehow impying conservatives would restate slavery to hillbilles now emulating this dickbag zimmerman all over my state.
When my kid walked to his friends today I watched him all the way and walked down and picked him up. I'm tired of all this bullshit and I am also tired of symphatizers with no "real" to them.
Guess I'm just disappointed at all this shit...as usual, and I hoped my kid would not have to see this shit.
Some day I'm going to learn how to read twitter. Is the summary that she thinks zimmerman was guilty but he learned his lesson so it's all good? Because if so mistrial this shit right now.
No such thing, guys! Double jeopardy! Which, along with the right to trial by jury, is guaranteed by the Constitution.
:usacry
Some day I'm going to learn how to read twitter. Is the summary that she thinks zimmerman was guilty but he learned his lesson so it's all good? Because if so mistrial this shit right now.
No such thing, guys! Double jeopardy! Which, along with the right to trial by jury, is guaranteed by the Constitution.
:usacry
Along with the Right to a One Murder Mulligan
I have to think there is some precedent that deals with a corrupted jury?
The juror also said she was aware of the political furor surrounding the case. Sounds like perjury to me.
I have to think there is some precedent that deals with a corrupted jury?
i dont think theres a chance in hell barack obama and eric holder will intervene in this case
Man, if you thought there was some ignorance before, imagine if ERIC HOLDER AND PRESIDENT NOBAMA bring a goddam CIVIL RIGHTS charge against Zimmerman.
Racesplosion.
It is a civil rights violation at it's core. Iced Tea and skittles isn't cause for profiling/following/killing a child.
What bugs me out most is the shit about him running being suspicious. The fuck. Who the hell in that situation just wants to turn around and ask your stalker "please stop?" Fuck people can be so damn deluded.
I can kind of see the logic in the argument. Depending on how I was being stalked, I'd turn around and ask them why they were following me. Since Martin lived in the neighborhood, if it were a cop, all he'd have to do is point to where he lived. If it were a normal person, I'd just keep walking normally. Running would make them think you have something to hide.
But it's too late now, and I hate what if scenarios.
I can kind of see the logic in the argument. Depending on how I was being stalked, I'd turn around and ask them why they were following me. Since Martin lived in the neighborhood, if it were a cop, all he'd have to do is point to where he lived and show id. If it were a normal person, I'd just keep walking normally. Running would make them think you have something to hide.
But it's too late now, and I hate what if scenarios.
It totally depends on the situation and yes, Martin would never have to deal with something a girl would have to deal with. Was Zimmerman in his car at this point? Was he on foot?
Been in that situation. Older dude, didn't feel like being a rape victim that day, I booked it.
What about Tuesdays? I'm available on Tuesdays.
Start with the general observations already raised in Gawker: B37 consumes no media beyond the Today Show—no radio, no Internet news and no newspapers used for anything but lining her parrot cage. Perhaps because she does not consume any media, she was under the false belief that there were “riots” after the Martin shooting. She also described the Martin killing as "an unfortunate incident that happened."
Robert Weisberg teaches criminal law at Stanford Law School, and he immediately wonders what it meant when juror B37 asserted that “You never get all the information. How do you form an opinion if you don’t have all the information?" Weisberg sums up his lawyerly concerns in one sentence: “She thinks the world is one big reasonable doubt.”
She speaks for the millions of Americans who believe that everyone is lying about something and the media lies about everything. The Internet, she explains, is for getting to the next level on Candy Crush Saga, not for getting information. And since everything is a lie, she doesn’t care enough to learn that the riots she believes to have happened did not.
I actually feel bad when I move my purse closer to me when people get on the bus. I'm opening up a seat but I feel like it looks more like "don't touch my shit." Oh well.I've thought that before when I moved my man-purse out of the way. Can't be helped.
we already know that the answer to that.
Okay, can someone tell me why we, in our modern society, allow complete ignoramuses to decide important court cases like this?
Okay, can someone tell me why we, in our modern society, allow complete ignoramuses to decide important court cases like this?The slate article makes a good point about limited jury strikes. So, consider this: There was someone worse.
Okay, can someone tell me why we, in our modern society, allow complete ignoramuses to decide important court cases like this?The slate article makes a good point about limited jury strikes. So, consider this: There was someone worse.
Multiple feet away, in broad daylight on a busy street?
:beli
ok but lets not act like most white women (or most white dudes, for real) dont do this
ok but lets not act like most white women (or most white dudes, for real) dont do this
In my experience, most white women don't cross the street if I'm behind them in broad daylight, but enough do it for me to feel guilty enough to change by behavior. And while I'm sure many women are concerned about walking ahead of men - regardless of color - late at night, it's still a depressing event for me. One time a young chick kept looking behind at me for about 5 minutes, then she stopped, turned around, and started staring at me. I passed her by and noticed she was on her phone. As I got close to her I gave her a nod then breezed by.
Sometimes I take the bus late at night and ride for the entire route, just to chill out/go down memory lane or listen to music. There are different tension levels on a bus, at least in my experience. For instance if it's just a couple old white people plus 3-4 young black or Hispanic guys talking, it feels like a nuclear standoff. The white people are tense, the blacks/latinos are oblivious, and I'm in the middle wishing they'd quiet the fuck down. Yet loud white kids on the bus don't get the same treatment, and there's no tension in the air. Dunno, I instance recognize shit like that, and I'd imagine many white people don't.
ok but lets not act like most white women (or most white dudes, for real) dont do this
You're right...of course. But as a 6' + 225+ (+=old) dude I notice small men and women move, period. I think the men do it because they know how a ruckus ends up and the women do it just because we are kinda big to them. Better just to let big dudes pass :-)
PS we are really nicer as we get taller, swear...try it.
I'm quite comfortable around the blacks.
puerto ricans on the other hand...
Nah breh too young. I've met Barry though, very nice guy. Met Brady and a bunch of other Wolverines back in 1997 during a basketball camp, then again in 1999
:rejoice
also btw white bros, I don't want to make it sound like being nervous around black people=racist. Obviously you can judge danger levels, and when you're around people you aren't familiar with you may be more on edge than usual. There's nothing wrong with that.
Personally I've spent enough time in Detroit and Flint to know when someone's fronting and when someone is actually dangerous.
Ha I was an undergrad in 97, youngster.
Bay ain't nothing like the Dirty....
Questlove's thoughts. Pretty long post but worth reading
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/questlove-trayvon-martin-and-i-aint-shit.html
(GAF repost:)
He sums up my feelings. I pretty much ignored the case because I knew what was going to happen, and didn't even want to think about it.
I'm 6'3, and find myself constantly thinking of ways not to scare white people. I got so tired of white women crossing the street whenever I was walking behind them that I started crossing the street first. Or if I can't cross, I'll pretend to be texting on my phone, and never look in their direction - even as they look behind their back to apparently make sure I don't sneak up on them.
I tend to buy my snacks at CVS. I used to get off work, go home to change, and then walk to CVS since it's only about 5 minutes away. I'd dress rather regularly, at least for myself: a hoodie if it's cold, or a black fitted tee if it's warm; jeans aren't falling down, nor are they exceptionally baggy. The first few times I did this I noticed people would drive up to the CVS, see me walking towards the store door, and decide to stay in their car a few moments longer; initially I thought it was coincidence, but after it happened many times I realized it wasn't. Then when I entered the store I'd often get concerned stares from people, specifically older whites and middle aged white women. Now I only go to CVS in my work clothes (office attire).
People continually say this case had nothing to do with race, but Zimmerman would not have followed Trayvon if he was white. Just as, if Candid Camera were to ambush a white woman after she crossed the street instead of walk in front of me, she would almost certainly say her action had nothing to do with race - when in reality if I were white too she wouldn't think of crossing the street.
In my experience, most white women don't cross the street if I'm behind them in broad daylight, but enough do it for me to feel guilty enough to change by behavior. And while I'm sure many women are concerned about walking ahead of men - regardless of color - late at night, it's still a depressing event for me. One time a young chick kept looking behind at me for about 5 minutes, then she stopped, turned around, and started staring at me. I passed her by and noticed she was on her phone. As I got close to her I gave her a nod then breezed by.
Sometimes I take the bus late at night and ride for the entire route, just to chill out/go down memory lane or listen to music. There are different tension levels on a bus, at least in my experience. For instance if it's just a couple old white people plus 3-4 young black or Hispanic guys talking, it feels like a nuclear standoff. The white people are tense, the blacks/latinos are oblivious, and I'm in the middle wishing they'd quiet the fuck down. Yet loud white kids on the bus don't get the same treatment, and there's no tension in the air. Dunno, I instance recognize shit like that, and I'd imagine many white people don't.
I'm quite comfortable around the blacks.
puerto ricans on the other hand...
Oh great, THANKS A LOT OBAMA
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-trayvon-martin-could-have-been-me?ref=fpa
determining who is and isnt racist shows the exact problem: that we teach each other that racism is this specific stuff done by these specific people, and it is never ever ourselves. it must be an ideology that you willingly subscribe to, and only then can you truly be a racist. if you do something that seems racist we'll examine your character and look for key words to determine if you actually are or if you just made a mistake and didnt mean any harm.
all this ignores the reality that even tho we dont see ourselves as racists, we do raise each other and teach each other all kinds of racist stuff that reinforces and seemingly legitimizes the larger stereotypes we hear. if you hear stuff enough times, and dont have a lot of real-world counterexamples, then you're going to believe its true, whether subconsciously or overtly. and when one of the little stereotypes we think of disproven to us, well there are still a million more that people have internalized and our overall viewpoint hasnt really changed.
throw in learned defensiveness instead of self-examination into the mix and congratulations! you have succeeded in perpetuating racism.
thats how someone like drew can see himself as a logical person arguing against idiots when he is actually racist as fuck, or how so many white people can say zimmermans actions made sense but the outcome was regrettable.
yeah, like i like to say, if you're gonna be an asshole then go ahead and be an asshole, just don't get mad when someone happens to call you an asshole. people get so caught up in the "but i'm a good person!" shit that they can't even have a honest conversation.
determining who is and isnt racist shows the exact problem: that we teach each other that racism is this specific stuff done by these specific people, and it is never ever ourselves. it must be an ideology that you willingly subscribe to, and only then can you truly be a racist. if you do something that seems racist we'll examine your character and look for key words to determine if you actually are or if you just made a mistake and didnt mean any harm.
all this ignores the reality that even tho we dont see ourselves as racists, we do raise each other and teach each other all kinds of racist stuff that reinforces and seemingly legitimizes the larger stereotypes we hear. if you hear stuff enough times, and dont have a lot of real-world counterexamples, then you're going to believe its true, whether subconsciously or overtly. and when one of the little stereotypes we think of disproven to us, well there are still a million more that people have internalized and our overall viewpoint hasnt really changed.
throw in learned defensiveness instead of self-examination into the mix and congratulations! you have succeeded in perpetuating racism.
thats how someone like drew can see himself as a logical person arguing against idiots when he is actually racist as fuck, or how so many white people can say zimmermans actions made sense but the outcome was regrettable.
The problem came when people decided to stop differentiating between racist actions and being a racist. Everyone wants to think of themselves as a good person. Tell them their outwards attitude or frame of a mind is a bit sexist/racist/homophobic and they get defensive as fuck. In general a lot of people don't want to deal with the fact they could be perpetuating fucked up ass attitudes that keep others down because they "don't want to be a bad person." But instead of dissecting their own behavior, they'll just deny the actions of themselves or others as problematic.
It makes it so damn difficult when someone hits this wall because you tell them "well this phrase/attitude comes from a not so nice place."NOT TODAY YOURE NOT MOTHERFUCKER
BUT I'M A NICE PERSON.
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God I wish our avatars could be animated gifs.
God I wish our avatars could be animated gifs.
You can... ?
Unless you mean the other place.
Need confirmation on the race of the family trapped in the SUV.
I really don't see a man who risks life and limb helping people out of a flipped car murdering anyone. It's a shame that coloured kid attacked him and ruined his life.
In 2006, an assassin nicknamed "The Flash" in Britain took a client's request to kill a police officer who was closing in on a crime that said client was undertaking in. However, when "The Flash" found out that the crime his client was guilty of was child rape and child pornography, he was shocked and instead left a note for the target detailing who his client was to help the officer arrest the criminal. The assassin signed off the note with "The Flash".
Next Man of Steel movie to be Superman/Batman/ZimmerMan.
Next Man of Steel movie to be Superman/Batman/ZimmerMan.
Zimmerman's MMA training would make for an interesting fight against superman.
Prep time doesn't matter as his super power seems to be the ability to do the right thing when the time arises.
Zim vs Oli
Do it, OA.
Also, a man strong enough to drag grown adults out of a crushed car got a life-threatening beating by a 130 pound 17 year old?
Did any riots happen over this? I'm in an argument with a dumb person and I want to give him the benefit of a doubt
That's what I thought. He responded by saying that he apparently has a different level of access to news. He still won't give me one example of a riot that happened.
Boycott video Game "Grand theft Auto" 2013
Playing the game or purchasing for others will promote negative stereotypes that ultimately incriminate the populations, or worse (...Trayvon Martin case)
According to Rockstar Games founder Sam Houser, “We’re a long way from having just sort of a great big, white, alpha-male dude running around with a bazooka. Our games aren’t really set up like that. We want to have a character that makes you ask questions — that can be a little confusing in terms of how you empathize with them and how you relate to them….” (so the expendables are the people of color)
Allow children to be children... and allow adults meaningful choices...
We as citizens are promoting stereotypes that will ultimately incriminate our people!!!!
◾You can sleep with a prostitute and then beat her to get your money back.
◾You can drive drunk, and it’s fun.
◾You can perform drive-by shootings.
◾You can carjack.
◾The game is a cop killing simulator.
◾It contains drug use, extreme violence, strong sexual content, profanity, and partial nudity.
In other words when we as Black people, or individuals use our image in a negative fashion, we are ultimately allowing for a rise in negative perception. Since we are now nationally reminded of our appearance(Trayvon Martin case) and how it causes many Americans to live in a state of fear, we must drop all ties with any stereotypes (including television shows, movies, your favorite musician, etc.) that will lead to a free pass to harm, or incriminate us based on gaming characters many will play as a "form of entertainment" for hours on end.
Black people, globally, are having issues with identity. In the eyes of white America, and becoming the entire America, an exaggeratedly large segment of Black America is criminally suspect. This is especially true relative to the Black American male. In the minds of many.... follow me Garrett, for black males to be alive is to be suspected, to be stereotypically accused, convicted and condemned for criminal conspiracy and intent. On the streets, in the subways, elevators, parks, in the "wrong" neighborhood, from late childhood to late adulthood, we are feared, make no mistake sir, we are feared, suspiciously scrutinized, cautiously approached or warily avoided. I am asking you to review the statement, do the research, and ask yourself... Do I really want to be apart of a system (Violent Video Games) that play a major role in the annihilation and self- annihilation of individuals in our society, no matter what color, race or creed???
God, Himuro. Your fixation with violent games is so lame. Play some Animal Crossing or something meaningful, I'm so bored with all this "let's kill people shit."
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Poor guy thinks people need a reason to be racist, huh?
That's what I thought. He responded by saying that he apparently has a different level of access to news. He still won't give me one example of a riot that happened.
I am sick of them because they're such a lazy way to make games. He's sick of them because he actually thinks they create violent behavior. two different things.
I am sick of them because they're such a lazy way to make games. He's sick of them because he actually thinks they create violent behavior. two different things.
Yet you're basically rubbing your nipples in anticipation of playing SRIV and GTAV
:gurl
the curb episode where david wants to fuck the arabic chick :lol
Arab girls fine! Too bad they're underdeveloped and fucking NUTS
the curb episode where david wants to fuck the arabic chick :lol
Arab girls fine! Too bad they're underdeveloped and fucking NUTS
Nine year old girls are like that, Muhammad
A woman who sat on the all-female jury that acquitted George Zimmerman said in an interview set to air Friday that the former neighborhood watch captain "got away with murder" in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin.
Juror B29, the lone minority on the jury, allowed her face to be shown in her interview with ABC's Robin Roberts and disclosed a first name of Maddy. But the 36-year-old nursing assistant, who is Puerto Rican, did not offer her last name, citing security concerns.
In the interview that will air on "Good Morning America," Maddy said that she and the jurors followed Florida law and the evidence put forth was not sufficient to prove murder. And for that, she said, Zimmerman walked.
"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy told ABC. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."
Maddy said she expected to be the juror "to give them the hung jury."
"I fought to the end," she said.
I don't see how she could give up, if she truly believed that. If that was me I would have stayed as long as possible to ensure either a hung jury or a manslaughter charge."I thought he was guilty of murder but then they were asking us to deliberate on a Saturday and I was all 'fuck this I'm out'"
sigh. probably rightI don't see how she could give up, if she truly believed that. If that was me I would have stayed as long as possible to ensure either a hung jury or a manslaughter charge."I thought he was guilty of murder but then they were asking us to deliberate on a Saturday and I was all 'fuck this I'm out'"
Its almost as if they are average people.
Jurors just seem like dumbfucks a bunch of the time honestly. Fuck.
Its almost as if they are average people.
Nah average people still manage to get out of jury duty. Jurors are the people not even clever enough to do that much or they have an agenda of their own.
Its almost as if they are average people.
Nah average people still manage to get out of jury duty. Jurors are the people not even clever enough to do that much or they have an agenda of their own.
Maybe they're just good citizens?
Maybe in light of this case people might start taking jury duty more seriously but I doubt it.
[...]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23495785
Davey, from Palmers Green, north London, said he had sent the Facebook message last December as a result of "spontaneous surprise at the kind of case I was on".
His posting - containing strong language and an offensive word - suggested he was going to find the defendant guilty, said BBC News home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw.
Davey's Facebook post: read: "Woooow I wasn't expecting to be in a jury Deciding a paedophile's fate, I've always wanted to Fuck up a paedophile & now I'm within the law!"
[...]
In Beard's case, the High Court heard claims that he had wanted to find out how long the proceedings at Kingston Crown Court would take as he was worried they would drag on.
He was said to have researched the case via the Google search engine and told fellow jurors extra information about the number of victims to the alleged fraud.
The case was abandoned in November last year after more than five weeks when his activity came to light. The two defendants in the fraud case were later found guilty at a retrial.
Jurors just seem like dumbfucks a bunch of the time honestly. Fuck.
Jurors just seem like dumbfucks a bunch of the time honestly. Fuck.
It is an axiom of my profession that you take nothing for granted when a trial is being decided by jury.
(in Canada, the defendant has the choice of being tried by a jury, or tried by a judge alone.)
I'm sure threatening his wife and her father with a gun was just self defense.
It's almost like violent pieces of shit continue to be violent pieces of shit and when they're let off it only feeds their ego when it comes to this shit. So the next time they fuck up without any possible defense.
if you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/21852750/data/1/-/eryp8vz/-/911-call-audio.wav
Police tape.
if you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
From personal experience when I've seen friends and family who do something that revokes their right to own a gun the restriction is followed through with and enforced pretty damn quicklyif you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
lol thats only when the cops give a shit enough to enforce that, which is uh not very often
if you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
From personal experience when I've seen friends and family who do something that revokes their right to own a gun the restriction is followed through with and enforced pretty damn quicklyif you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
lol thats only when the cops give a shit enough to enforce that, which is uh not very often
Where does it fall on a legal spectrum where shooting an unarmed teenager in the chest is not a crime?
I have a Bachelors degree in Criminal Justice
so why'd you ask a cook on the legalities of a highly public case? silly goose.
I didn't
I think you just created the anti appeal to authority fallacy, better trademark this bro.
Texas. My brother was charged with possession of marijuana and within a week he received a call from the ATF asking him to surrender his gun. He ended up selling it to my mom. My mom gets a call from the ATF saying that even after his probation if they find out she sells it back to him and he's still smoking marijuana that she will be charged with unlawful transfer of a firearm.From personal experience when I've seen friends and family who do something that revokes their right to own a gun the restriction is followed through with and enforced pretty damn quicklyif you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
lol thats only when the cops give a shit enough to enforce that, which is uh not very often
Was this in Florida or Texas?
Can't wait for Cuba Gooding Jr to star in a movie about black on black violence in Chicago.
No gun registration in Texas. My brother was carrying his in his glove compartment (legal without CHL in Texas) when he was arrested for possession. My friend's guns were found when police arrested him during the domestic dispute. The other people involved told the police that he owned guns.Texas. My brother was charged with possession of marijuana and within a week he received a call from the ATF asking him to surrender his gun. He ended up selling it to my mom. My mom gets a call from the ATF saying that even after his probation if they find out she sells it back to him and he's still smoking marijuana that she will be charged with unlawful transfer of a firearm.
Had a friend that got into a domestic dispute and lost all his firearms as well.
I can't say how strict other states are in enforcing it though.
Does Texas have gun registration? How did the ATF know?
"Their products just work," Zimmerman said to the camera.
Weeks later, he appeared smiling with an employee at the gun manufacturer Kel-Tec, the same brand of pistol he used to shoot Martin during their February 2012 confrontation in Sanford.
[img]http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/george-zimmerman-kel-tec-tmz-3.jpg[img]
smh
Like most people when they get arrested, I imagine they didn't keep their mouth shut and admitted it.No gun registration in Texas. My brother was carrying his in his glove compartment (legal without CHL in Texas) when he was arrested for possession. My friend's guns were found when police arrested him during the domestic dispute. The other people involved told the police that he owned guns.Texas. My brother was charged with possession of marijuana and within a week he received a call from the ATF asking him to surrender his gun. He ended up selling it to my mom. My mom gets a call from the ATF saying that even after his probation if they find out she sells it back to him and he's still smoking marijuana that she will be charged with unlawful transfer of a firearm.
Had a friend that got into a domestic dispute and lost all his firearms as well.
I can't say how strict other states are in enforcing it though.
Does Texas have gun registration? How did the ATF know?
But if there's no gun registration, then how can it be proved the guns belong to him?
Texas. My brother was charged with possession of marijuana and within a week he received a call from the ATF asking him to surrender his gun. He ended up selling it to my mom. My mom gets a call from the ATF saying that even after his probation if they find out she sells it back to him and he's still smoking marijuana that she will be charged with unlawful transfer of a firearm.From personal experience when I've seen friends and family who do something that revokes their right to own a gun the restriction is followed through with and enforced pretty damn quicklyif you guys didn't know already - having a domestic violence charge of any kind is pretty much a one way ticket to noguns everagain ville...
now seeing that it actually involved a firearm? ha, you don't have to be a genius to know how this'll end up.
lol thats only when the cops give a shit enough to enforce that, which is uh not very often
Was this in Florida or Texas?
Had a friend that got into a domestic dispute and lost all his firearms as well.
I can't say how strict other states are in enforcing it though.
3 times
Bobby got booked for weed?!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dzDb5v744
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/
Police answered a 911 call from Shellie Zimmerman on Monday afternoon during which she said George Zimmerman had threatened her and her father with a weapon. Officers detained George Zimmerman but never arrested him, police said. Detectives later came to the home to interview him.
The question of the gun became confused later when police told reporters there was no gun involved, but George Zimmerman's attorney told CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that he believed his client had a firearm on him.
"He acted appropriately. He never took the weapon out," said Mark O'Mara, who is also a CNN legal analyst. O'Mara said he never saw the gun.
"Booked for weed"? Is Himu also an undercover cop in a 70's detective series?
Sure you were, narc"Booked for weed"? Is Himu also an undercover cop in a 70's detective series?
It was at the moment and I was shocked!
"I believe that the police misinterpreted me and that I may have misspoken about certain facts in my statement to the police," she said in the signed affidavit.
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Current bid:US $99,966.00
First hand painted artwork by me, George Zimmerman. Everyone has been asking what I have been doing with myself. I found a creative, way to express myself, my emotions and the symbols that represent my experiences. My art work allows me to reflect, providing a therapeutic outlet and allows me to remain indoors :-) I hope you enjoy owning this piece as much as I enjoyed creating it. Your friend, George Zimmerman
Questions and answers about this item
Q: Just wanted to tell you we all love you and stand behind you. You have so many people on your side I hope you know that!
A: Thank you so much for the words of kindness and support. I do know how many great Americans are still here, I run into at least 3-5 a day that go out of their way to tell me the same. Your Friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ
Q: Hi i am interested in the painting and was wondering how big it was? Also did you sign the painting? Thanks and have a good day
A: Thanks for your inquiry, The painting is 18" x 24" and yes, it is signed :-) Your friend, GZ
Q: Hello- what are the dimensions ? And is it oil on canvas. ? i await your reply thanks
A: Thanks for the question, The painting is 18" X 24" on stretched canvas. Your Friend, GZ
A photographer and news agency whose picture of State Attorney Angela Corey appears to be the basis for George Zimmerman's latest painting are calling the artwork a clear copyright violation.
Jacksonville attorney John Phillips, who represents photographer Rick Wilson, told the Orlando Sentinel on Friday that Zimmerman should expect legal action if he continues to use the photo.
"You just can't do that," Phillips said. "You just can't take somebody else's work and make it your own."
...
Wilson said he took the photograph as a freelancer for The Associated Press, and he said AP owns its copyright.
Zimmerman's use of his photo for profit "to me crosses a line," Wilson said. "He's trying to profit and pass off, basically, a photograph as his own original artwork."
In a statement Friday, AP spokesman Paul Colford confirmed the news network has sent Zimmerman a cease-and-desist letter.
Zimmerman "clearly directly copied an AP photo to create his painting of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey," Colford said.
If Zimmerman moves forward with plans to sell the image, "the next step would be to, in conjunction with the AP, to file suit against him," Phillips said.
...
Zimmerman's painting teacher, Jeff Sonksen, said he taught Zimmerman to paint by projecting an image onto a canvas. He knew Zimmerman was unemployed and needed cash.
"How's he ever going to make any money?" Sonksen asked.
...
Zimmerman put a previous painting up for auction on eBay. The winning bid was $100,099.99, though it remains unconfirmed whether he was paid that sum.
"I was shocked it didn't sell for a million dollars," said Sonksen, Zimmerman's art teacher.
Geez, calm down, people. It's just a little copyright violation, it's not like he killed somebody!
George Zimmerman wants to beat up Kanye West ... ironically because the rapper has a history of attacking "defenseless people."
Promoters for Zimmerman's upcoming celeb boxing match tell us he badly wants to step in the ring with Yeezus. The promoters are deliciously Machiavellian --- knowing for many it will become a choice between 2 evils ... thus becoming a must-see spectacle.
We're told George's beef with Kanye is not just that he attacks paparazzi ... but the innocents as well -- like the 18-year-old who allegedly called Kim an "N***** lover."
The promoters say if Kanye takes Zimmerman up on the offer ... they're willing to move the fight to L.A.
I always click on this thread expecting that he's killed someone or died.
George Zimmerman wants to beat up Kanye West ... ironically because the rapper has a history of attacking "defenseless people."No word yet on whether or not Zimmer-Man would be willing to take on Chris Brown.
Promoters for Zimmerman's upcoming celeb boxing match tell us he badly wants to step in the ring with Yeezus. The promoters are deliciously Machiavellian --- knowing for many it will become a choice between 2 evils ... thus becoming a must-see spectacle.
We're told George's beef with Kanye is not just that he attacks paparazzi ... but the innocents as well -- like the 18-year-old who allegedly called Kim an "N***** lover."
The promoters say if Kanye takes Zimmerman up on the offer ... they're willing to move the fight to L.A.
We'd livestream that.
Edit: Whoops, sorry, Benjipwns. I scrolled through but didn't see your post.We'll settle this as the undercard.
you american blacks should be ashamed that this motherfucking cunt is still alive and trolling. :ufup
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"They should send Floyd Mayweather to the ring and tell George Zimmerman it's DMX," he tweeted. "He won't know the difference."
Oh look who is back in the news today
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-zimmerman-accused-threatening-driver-25462761
This fucking guy
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/george-zimmerman-lake-mary-shooting
“And I think what is also going to be quite ironic, Anderson,” she continued, “is if this shooter is charged with aggravated assault or attempted murder, his defense will be that he was standing his ground against George Zimmerman because he feared for his life because George Zimmerman was brandishing a gun. It is just ironic at the very, very best.”
"George Zimmerman is now selling prints of his Confederate flag painting at a gun store that made headlines earlier this year for deeming itself a "Muslim-free" zone.
Buying one of the numbered prints online for $50 automatically enters the purchaser in a raffle to win the original Confederate flag painting. A statement on Florida Gun Supply's website speculates the original painting could be worth up to $100,000, which is the price Zimmerman's last painting sold for on eBay.
After the shootings in Chatanooga in July, Florida Gun Supply owner Andy Hallinan posted a controversial video on YouTube saying that he would turn away Muslims who wanted to shop at his gun store in Iverness.
Zimmerman was originally painting an American flag when he heard the Council for American/Islamic Relations was planning a lawsuit against Hallinan."The caption, 'the 2nd protects the first' is a double entendre," Zimmerman said in a statement on Florida Gun Supply's website. "The first flag I painted on this canvas was an American Flag, but decided to repaint over it with the Confederate Flag when I heard Andy was getting sued by CAIR. The 2nd flag I painted was the Battle Flag - which we need in America in order to protect the first."
Zimmerman wrote that he was “proud to announce” that a portion of the proceeds raised would be used to “fight BLM [Black Lives Matter] violence against Law Enforcement officers” as well as ending the career of Angela Corey, his prosecutor – “and Hillary Clinton’s anti-firearm rhetoric”.
He signed off “your friend, George M. Zimmerman” and “Si vis pacem, para bellum” – the Latin adage, “If you want peace, prepare for war”.
I thought there was a clause in the Affordable Care Act where Obama's Death Camps were able to claim Zimmerman for organs.
If not, I should write that up as erotic fiction on Amazon and make a mint on Kindle sales.
Is it bad to hope someone buys it, starts a fight with zim, then shoot him with it, and claim self defense?
Very disappointed no one has blown this dude away. It seems very easy to do it legally given how much of a hot head he is. Let him go for his gun in public and then kill him, claim self defense.
George Zimmerman says he was punched in the face after talking about the Trayvon Martin case at a Sanford-area restaurant over the weekend.
Zimmerman said he was ordering food at Gators Riverside Grille Sunday evening when he walked by a table with several people and complimented a man’s Confederate flag tattoos, according to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office.
The man, Joseph Whitmer, thanked him and asked, “aren’t you that guy?” Zimmerman said yes and pulled out his ID to prove who he was, a report shows.
Whitmer asked about the Trayvon Martin case and as Zimmerman started to explain that he fatally shot the unarmed teen in self-defense, another man walked up and asked, “You’re bragging about that?”
Zimmerman told that man he wasn’t but the man said “you better get the [expletive] out of here,” a report shows. Zimmerman told deputies he went back to his table where several of his friends were eating.
Several minutes later, the man, who was only identified as Eddie, walked over to his table and said, “Didn’t I tell you to get the [expletive] out of here...” a report states.
Zimmerman told the man he wasn’t looking for any trouble and that’s when the man punched him in the face, breaking his glasses, records show. Restaurant staffers broke up the scuffle. Zimmerman called 911.
Zimmerman then called 911.
“This man just punched me in the face,” he told a dispatcher. “...He said he was going to kill me. You need to send three or four cops.”
Zimmerman told the dispatcher he was injured and needed paramedics.
“I don’t know where I’m bleeding from. My face is bloody,” he said.
“He told me he was going to kill me,” Zimmerman told a dispatcher. “He told me he would [expletive] shoot me.”
Several Witnesses told deputies a slightly different version. about what happened. Whitmer’s wife said Zimmerman approached them while they were eating and said “Hey, I like your racist tattoos,” records show.
He then told them about killing Trayvon “to brag,” a report states.
Another witness who was at Whitmer’s table said he also asked Zimmerman to leave their table. He said he had an issue after “Zimmerman came to his table and proceeded to brag about how he was the one who killed Trayvon Martin,” an incident report states.
Zimmerman told the Sentinel he thinks it was a miscommunication.
Gators Riverside owner Ed Winters told a different story.
He said the incident started when Zimmerman approached a shirtless patron who had just come in from the St. Johns River and told him he didn’t like one of his tattoos. After a few words, Zimmerman walked back to his table.
A friend of the first man to approach Zimmerman — who was at the restaurant with family celebrating a 12-year-old’s birthday — walked over to Zimmerman to confront him, Winters said.
The two argued, but no punches were thrown, Winters said.
The two shoved each other, but Winters said claims of anything further are “blown out of proportion.”
Winters said Zimmerman called 911, prompting a full-fledged response from the police and fire department.
Zimmerman had been to the restaurant at least once before the incident, but Winters said Gators Riverside asked him not to come back after the debacle.
“Everywhere this guy goes he causes controversy,” Winters said. “You’d think he’d keep a low profile.”
A Florida man was found guilty Friday of attempted second-degree murder, stemming from a 2015 road rage incident involving George Zimmerman, a court spokeswoman said.
Matthew Apperson, 27, also was found guilty of shooting into a vehicle and aggravated assault with a firearm, Michelle Kennedy, spokeswoman for the 18th Judicial Circuit, said.
A jury deliberated for four hours. Apperson will be sentenced October 17.
The charges stem from an incident in Lake Mary, Florida, in May 2015. Apperson had said it was a case of self-defense and Zimmerman had threatened to kill him.
Zimmerman testified that Apperson followed him, flashing his lights and honking his horn. Apperson pulled up beside Zimmerman and shot at him, but the bullet missed, Zimmerman said. Shattered window glass cut Zimmerman.
CNN attempted to reach Michael LaFay, who represents Apperson, but didn't get an immediate response.
Zimmerman's brother, Robert, tweeted: "Justice for George!"
Zimmerman was sitting in his car, making him unable to stand his ground. It was the 2nd Amendment's fatal flaw.the framers couldn't predict cars feelbadman
Every time this thread gets bumped, I feel like a bad person because I'm usually hoping someone has done him.
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"Honestly, I [would] love to live a calm life without being in the press.
Quote"Honestly, I [would] love to live a calm life without being in the press.
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Yeah, those are totally the actions you took after being acquitted of shooting a child.
http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/it-says-here-on-your-resume-mr-zimmerman-that-you--33516
Every time this thread gets bumped, I feel like a bad person because I'm usually hoping someone has done him.
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George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer acquitted of homicide charges in the 2012 fatal shooting of unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, is suing Martin’s family, prosecutors and others involved in the case he claims rested on false evidence, according to a copy of the suit sent to the media Wednesday.
Zimmerman is represented by Larry Klayman, a high-profile legal crusader tied to conservative causes and the founder of Judicial Watch before splitting with the activist group.
The Polk County Circuit Court suit cites information in a documentary about the case titled “The Trayvon Hoax” that accuses the Martin family of engineering false testimony, and the director has scheduled a press conference this week in Coral Gables to coincide with a film screening there.
The suit seeks $100 million in civil damages, alleging defamation, abuse of civil process and conspiracy. A copy of the suit was distributed to media Wednesday by the movies’ director, Joe Gilbert. The case does not yet appear on the online docket of the Polk court system.
The court papers say the suit was filed in Polk because Zimmerman lives there. It states all defendants “have worked in concert to deprive Zimmerman of his constitutional and other legal rights.”
The lead defendant in the suit is Sybrina Fulton, Martin’s mother
Well, someone Fox News (Hannity, I think) said that Obama secretly hopes Zimmerman gets acquitted so that all the rage that Black people build up will cause them to vote in the midterms.
.really miss these old bore posters, too bad they all got chased away by shitty new posters ;)
.really miss these old bore posters, too bad they all got chased away by shitty new posters ;)
benji sent me a pm and said that if he is ever banned it's because he personally requested it and also the mods are good people who are always right(https://i.imgur.com/Co1Rg9R.jpg)
Didn't Stealhfan end up turning gay and less hateful by the end of his posting career here?
https://twitter.com/NewsGuyGreg/status/1230152632976588800