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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: MCD on July 07, 2013, 01:24:59 AM
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Please don't be this Gen.
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What gen is iOS?
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:bow 3DS :bow2
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Platform will cause meltdowns... Mark my words.
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Platform will cause meltdowns... Mark my words.
I wish it was an Xbone exclusive just so I could enjoy all of the meltdowns. :D
Wii U exclusive could be good too tho.
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I don't mind Wii U since I am buying it for X one way or another.
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I will buy whatever platform it comes out on, real talk. :bow2
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looks like you guys are buying next gen systems sooner than you thought.
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Well, it's good to be rich.
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I'm really hoping a more traditional Persona take ala P2. No slinks. It should have a relationship dynamic that affects endings and gameplay (ala Catherine) but not be in your face about leveling up your relationship with people.
No more multi-floored dungeon crawling THAT'S THE SAME DUNGEON ala Tartaros. Give us structured dungeons that made SMT3/DDS' dungeons so great.
Here's hoping the games school setting is college, so it stars adults. If not that, make the cast mostly late 20's/middle aged ala Eternal Punishment.
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Bring back the horror, suspense, and mystery.
Persona 4 touched on it and gave it P2EP vibes, but it wasn't enough. It ultimately felt like Scooby Doo.
More
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqGpTUUFcLU
Less
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kDwH1YInzM
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Since Kaneko didn't do SMTIV designs, it's reasonable he's kept busy with Persona 5.
- NO SOEJIMA. KANEKO ONLY.
- Bring back multiple renditions of the Velvet Room music please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN7OgHfPvZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV-mN-Ywgig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn3Q0Tz2zfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crdQCmSNC9E
- BRING BACK NEGOTIATIONS AND RUMORS. Persona 1/2 are unique to SMT in that they had the most fleshed out negotiation systems. EXPAND ON THIS. Fuck tarot cards.
God I love Persona. :lawd
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Himu uguu meltdown in progress.
Gimme Persona x Animal Crossing.
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Fucking PERSONA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdiN-Ta5nU
:hyper :rock
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Bring back the horror, suspense, and mystery.
Persona 4 touched on it and gave it P2EP vibes, but it wasn't enough. It ultimately felt like Scooby Doo.
More
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqGpTUUFcLU
Less
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kDwH1YInzM
lolololololol keep dreaming buddy
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:lol @ thread title change
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Dat thread title change. :lol
It's gonna be what the most recent ones were cause those have sold more than the previous installments I'd imagine?
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Dat thread title change. :lol
It's gonna be what the most recent ones were cause those have sold more than the previous installments I'd imagine?
I think it can go two ways:
either they embrace new Persona (as seen by Persona 4A) or they go along with Catherine route and touch on more adult subject matter.
Given that Catherine sold decently, I'd imagine that they can do whatever they want at this point within reason and it'll still be a success for them but that depends on the games budget.
I really want them to go the Catherine route and seeing as how that's by the Persona team, I really think it's a hint as to what we should expect.
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3DS/Vita confirmed. :lol
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Tsk, thought we were talking about P4G.
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Catherine sold about 25% of what P4 did.
I expect P5 to be very much in the manner of P4, right down to its relative choice of platform.
P5 Golden for Vita confirmed.
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I am imagining it and I am laughing.
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Wii P5 confirmed
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Really hope P5 is current gen.
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Himu setting herself up for disappointment. ERRTIME.
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Really hope P5 is current gen.
Why? Are you not planning to get a next-gen system?
I would prefer PC > PS4/X1 > PS3/360 > Wii U > Vita > PS2 > 3DS > PSP > NDS, or basically, in order of power.
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This coming exlusively to next-gen gameboxes would be the only reason for me to buy one, and that's a costly endeavor for just one game. Still have a 360 stashed somewhere, so that's what I'm hoping for.
Also hoping for more Scooby Doo and quirky teenz and Power of Friendship. Which is good, because that's exactly what we're getting.
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if it's not like persona 4 then i have no interest in it
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- BRING BACK NEGOTIATIONS
No
AND RUMORS.
Yes.
Persona 1/2 are unique to SMT in that they had the most fleshed out negotiation systems. EXPAND ON THIS.
2's wasn't as bad as 1's negotiation system but it was extremely tedious. The shuffle time P3/P4 had was much faster for fusing Personae by grabbing trash cards and then using them to get what you want. The only benefit of P2's system was being able to dial the exact Persona you wanted with those tarot cards you hate. That's it. Had nothing to do with the badly done Negotiation system.
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I prefer negotiation to shuffle time. I think any smt with demon collection should have negotiation. Bring back negotiations but make it less tedious. Follow Raidou 2's example for negotiations. They should feel fluid and interactive. But yes, DO bring back rumors.
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Himu setting herself up for disappointment. ERRTIME.
Not really. These are WISHES.
I didn't have a problem with p3/p4 despite being radically diff from P2 unlike the other fans, and I won't have a problem if they stick with the p3 formula because I actually love it, and it's been five years since P4 anyways.
win/win for me by virtue of being P5.
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Meh SMT4 is the only one that matters.
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Meh SMT4 is the only one that matters.
You mean the game with a gimped budget, 2d battle sprites, no 3d cutscenes, wannabe character designs not even done by Kaneko, smaller dungeons, and babified difficulty?
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
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To be honest I haven't even seen a gameplay trailer of SMT4 but if it has monster collecting instead of fucking cards then is already better than P5
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Breh.
The cards ARE monster collecting. :what
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Breh.
The cards ARE monster collecting. :what
It's not the same, not even close.
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Himuro, you haven't even played SMT4.
I know I haven't. I'm just challenging Diunx's claim. Looking forward to it tho.
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Meh SMT4 is the only one that matters.
You mean the game with a gimped budget, 2d battle sprites, no 3d cutscenes, wannabe character designs not even done by Kaneko, smaller dungeons, and babified difficulty?
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
i know i'll regret this question but if you think that of the main series game made when they still weren't having financial troubles,what makes you think things will be different for a spinoff especialy now that they are currently in hobo mode?
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Really hope P5 is current gen.
Why? Are you not planning to get a next-gen system?
I would prefer PC > PS4/X1 > PS3/360 > Wii U > Vita > PS2 > 3DS > PSP > NDS, or basically, in order of power.
Personally I'd put PS3/360, maybe Wii U save for gamepad, at the bottom for me.
Unless it's a PC game or portable, I can't see playing another long console jrpg. PS2 and I can use pcsx2. PS4 and I can stream to Vita.
In order of drama, Xbox One or iOS at the top for sure.
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Meh SMT4 is the only one that matters.
You mean the game with a gimped budget, 2d battle sprites, no 3d cutscenes, wannabe character designs not even done by Kaneko, smaller dungeons, and babified difficulty?
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
i know i'll regret this question but if you think that of the main series game made when they still weren't having financial troubles,what makes you think things will be different for a spinoff especialy now that they are currently in hobo mode?
Because that spin off is (unfortunately) more popular than the main series.
I mean this is obvious.
Also they were having financial troubles. Atlus financial issues is nothing new and you're talking about Index? From two weeks ago? They've had P5 in the oven for a while Magus.
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Less dating, more negotiating.
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I want it on PS4 so I can play it offscreen on my Vita.
Also, no thanks to negotiations coming back.
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Really hope P5 is current gen.
Why? Are you not planning to get a next-gen system?
I would prefer PC > PS4/X1 > PS3/360 > Wii U > Vita > PS2 > 3DS > PSP > NDS, or basically, in order of power.
Personally I'd put PS3/360, maybe Wii U save for gamepad, at the bottom for me.
Unless it's a PC game or portable, I can't see playing another long console jrpg. PS2 and I can use pcsx2. PS4 and I can stream to Vita.
In order of drama, Xbox One or iOS at the top for sure.
I never understood people who want to play really long-ass RPGs on a handheld. Personally, I can't play portables for more than 2 hours without my hands cramping and my eyes hurting from looking at a tiny screen. Not to mention, there is no public transportation where I live (apart from the LIRR but I prefer to drive to the city than take the train) so I'm usually at home, where I have a big screen TV to play on.
PS4 would be the ideal for a P5. I don't care if it's more like 1/2 or more like 3/4. As long as it has a turn-based system and some awesome music I'm in.
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I wouldn't mind playing a new Persona game. FES and 4 were both really good, and the :uguu stereotypical shit that always rears it's heads in jrpgs wasn't *that* offensive imo.
Only way I'll end up getting to play it if it's coming out in the next year would be if it was a PS3 release though, and from the sound of things I'm guessing it will be a next gen affair. (note that this excludes the Weeeeoooooo by definition, ntards. Besides, none of you have ever played Persona games before and you're only excited about SMT4 because you're predictably shitty people who will lavish praise on 3rd party games that are n-exclusive.)
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Really hope P5 is current gen.
Why? Are you not planning to get a next-gen system?
I would prefer PC > PS4/X1 > PS3/360 > Wii U > Vita > PS2 > 3DS > PSP > NDS, or basically, in order of power.
Personally I'd put PS3/360, maybe Wii U save for gamepad, at the bottom for me.
Unless it's a PC game or portable, I can't see playing another long console jrpg. PS2 and I can use pcsx2. PS4 and I can stream to Vita.
In order of drama, Xbox One or iOS at the top for sure.
I never understood people who want to play really long-ass RPGs on a handheld. Personally, I can't play portables for more than 2 hours without my hands cramping and my eyes hurting from looking at a tiny screen. Not to mention, there is no public transportation where I live (apart from the LIRR but I prefer to drive to the city than take the train) so I'm usually at home, where I have a big screen TV to play on.
PS4 would be the ideal for a P5. I don't care if it's more like 1/2 or more like 3/4. As long as it has a turn-based system and some awesome music I'm in.
Yeah, I 100% agree. I just don't like handhelds anymore, man. I used to be able to play rpgs on them but eeeehhhhhhhhh not anymore. It was really jarring after playing the preceding two Fire Emblem games on consoles to try to go back and play the latest on a handheld. Couldn't finish it.
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You can take the handheld anywhere. Those hours build up. I honestly don't understand NOT being able to play a game that long on a handheld. It is more personal and relaxing than playing on console.
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Yeah I've played both Persona 2 games and P1 and well, yeah that's kind of the last thing I want to come back. Demon negotiations were pretty dumb and not fun. I far more enjoy s links and the school stuff. If anything, I want more wrpg type dialogue trees in those areas. Make them more involved.
I guess the tone of two was a bit more interesting, but I honestly don't care. I don't play these games for the stories and all the occult stuff does nothing for me but make weird wallpaper in the background. I kind of just like the relatable characters and right now the school stuff serves that purpose pretty well. Atlus has of course shown that they can make tolerable characters and school drama that dosen't offend me like most anime, so I mean it would be cool for them to say tackle college or older characters again, but hey if they don't, no real loss.
]Why? Are you not planning to get a next-gen system?
Yeah, but anything could happen before I get one. If it's on current gen systems, well I already have one of those. And I still like playing my PS3, it's not going anywhere. It would be nice to take it out with a bang like 4 did with the PS2.
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I want a mix of P2 and P3 style game play.
But in a way, slinks ARE demon negotiations but with humans. The problem is that is is impossible to fail an slink advance because the choices are obvious. Make the game more unpredictable if you go with slinks.
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You can take the handheld anywhere. Those hours build up. I honestly don't understand NOT being able to play a game that long on a handheld. It is more personal and relaxing than playing on console.
Small screen, necessarily shittier tech than a console (especially if it's a Nintendo handheld) and hands cramping. I can lounge back in my recliner to play a turn based rpg on a console without squinting at a screen or having my hands cramp.
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That makes sense I guess.
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Altus is never quick to embrace new platforms. I bet it's PS3 and maybe 360.
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Plus, and this is probably just my slightly spergtastic self talking, but I have to be in the mood to play games. I never really feel the urge when I'm out and about in society- when that's the case, I'm dealing with suppressing the urge to murder people for all of the stupid shit they do. Lounging back in my recliner or office chair in comfy clothes where I know for sure I'm not going to suddenly have to deal with someone else's stupidity is when I'm happiest to game.
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Really hope P5 is current gen.
Why? Are you not planning to get a next-gen system?
I would prefer PC > PS4/X1 > PS3/360 > Wii U > Vita > PS2 > 3DS > PSP > NDS, or basically, in order of power.
Personally I'd put PS3/360, maybe Wii U save for gamepad, at the bottom for me.
Unless it's a PC game or portable, I can't see playing another long console jrpg. PS2 and I can use pcsx2. PS4 and I can stream to Vita.
In order of drama, Xbox One or iOS at the top for sure.
I never understood people who want to play really long-ass RPGs on a handheld. Personally, I can't play portables for more than 2 hours without my hands cramping and my eyes hurting from looking at a tiny screen. Not to mention, there is no public transportation where I live (apart from the LIRR but I prefer to drive to the city than take the train) so I'm usually at home, where I have a big screen TV to play on.
PS4 would be the ideal for a P5. I don't care if it's more like 1/2 or more like 3/4. As long as it has a turn-based system and some awesome music I'm in.
Mainly because it's easier to multitask. I can have it on my desk next to my keyboard, easily switching between working and playing. And it's stuff like sleep mode on the vita/3ds, being able to stop and start wherever. It's more about the convenience portables provide than the portability. I mean, I have an iphone if I wanted to play games outside.
Again, it's not just portables. If I could play it in a side window on my PC, that would be great too. Consoles can't really handle games you play for 5-10 minutes at a time, which is how I can get through these games.
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Eh, yeah I just fundamentally play games different than you guys I guess. The only "bite size" gaming experiences I enjoy are Puzzle and Dragon, and Puzzle and Dragon. I don't like multi-tasking because I have to do it so much for work, and it's stressful. When I play a game, I want to just play the game and not worry about other shit.
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You can take the handheld anywhere. Those hours build up. I honestly don't understand NOT being able to play a game that long on a handheld. It is more personal and relaxing than playing on console.
You can, but if I'm out I'm out at a bar with friends, or at a dance party, or out to eat with the woman... not really the kinds of places you'd break out a handheld to play a long in-depth game.
Plane rides are great for them (car rides I can't do - I get carsick :P ). I don't travel that often either but have a 6 hour layover in Dulles to look forward to in a few weeks, so that's when I'll be focusing on SMT4 (or probably Soul Hackers since I didn't open that yet).
Eh, yeah I just fundamentally play games different than you guys I guess. The only "bite size" gaming experiences I enjoy are Puzzle and Dragon, and Puzzle and Dragon. I don't like multi-tasking because I have to do it so much for work, and it's stressful. When I play a game, I want to just play the game and not worry about other shit.
Seems we play games in very similar ways. If I'm playing an RPG I would want to set a block of time for it, at least 2 hours long (usually weekend afternoons or a particularly slow weeknight are good), free from any distraction. I also am one of the few people who don't break out their phone in public constantly to dick around on it...
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Tiesto of course you wouldn't break out the 3ds during a date or at a party. But on the other hand you wouldn't be playing your console either. :what I'm not seeing your point. Hand held are good during down times at work. I play AC during my lunch break. If I took the bus I'd probably have even more opportunity to play it on the go as well. Being handheld doesn't mean you can or should play it during all occasions, it just makes it easier TO play it. :what
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Eh, yeah I just fundamentally play games different than you guys I guess. The only "bite size" gaming experiences I enjoy are Puzzle and Dragon, and Puzzle and Dragon. I don't like multi-tasking because I have to do it so much for work, and it's stressful. When I play a game, I want to just play the game and not worry about other shit.
No, that's how I normally play games. JRPGs are just a special case for me. And not all JRPG. Mainly turn based, slower paced JRPG. I don't want to play a Tales game on a portable (redundant).
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I've got a DS and a PSP, but I really dislike handheld gaming. My interest in titles tends to decrease when it's revealed they're handheld only.
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I've decided that I'll just pirate and emulate handheld games I really want to play on my pc :heh
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The last handheld game I played through to the end was FFVII Crisis Core. As great as KH is, I just get bored playing it on a tiny screen.
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I can't even remember the last game I finished on a handheld. It was probably one of the GBA Fire Emblems. I even lost interest in the FFV Job Fiesta because I was playing on my iphone.
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it doesn't surprise me that you guys don't like handhelds since old assholes have poor eyesight :heh
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it doesn't surprise me that you guys don't like handhelds since old assholes have poor eyesight :heh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0OaeMYTbs4
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Handhelds are good if you're in a position where actually having time in front of the TV is limited. I work long-ass hours, my wife wouldn't complain but I know she has no interest in vidya and I'm not an ass, and my son wants to play games with me, not watch me play games. So really for me, 95% of the time, it's handheld games or no games.
I play games after my wife and kid have gone to bed. I don't play when I could be doing stuff with them.
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Breeders :yuck
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My kid's 14, so he's up pretty late. And I dunno, maybe cuz I've only been married a year, but I feel bad if I don't go to bed at the same time the missus does.
I don't stay up late every night and if going to bed at the same time is the right thing to do (ie. sex, gotta get up early, etc.), I do it. That said, I still manage probably 5 hours of game time a week, which isn't bad.
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The last handheld game I played through to the end was FFVII Crisis Core. As great as KH is, I just get bored playing it on a tiny screen.
Play it with TV Out, no more small screen.
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seriously, PSP has got to be one of the best handheld systems simply because it can be a home console with a single cable. Wasn't there another handheld console that did this? I forget which one it was.
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My kid's 14, so he's up pretty late. And I dunno, maybe cuz I've only been married a year, but I feel bad if I don't go to bed at the same time the missus does.
I don't stay up late every night and if going to bed at the same time is the right thing to do (ie. sex, gotta get up early, etc.), I do it. That said, I still manage probably 5 hours of game time a week, which isn't bad.
man I know that feel bro
"wow, a 40 hour JRPG! I know what I'm doing for the next 3 months!"
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You guys are making families sound sooooo worth it :holeup
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anyway
why did Atlus bother registering persona5.jp
was persona5.mobi taken
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anyway
why did Atlus bother registering persona5.jp
was persona5.mobi taken
Not sure, but I do know that persona5ios.jp was taken. Same with gree.persona5.jp.
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Pfft. Get a dog, talk to it, reply for him in a different voice, jerk it to weird porn. Rinse and repeat.
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The last handheld game I played through to the end was FFVII Crisis Core. As great as KH is, I just get bored playing it on a tiny screen.
Play it with TV Out, no more small screen.
It really sucks that the PSP2000/3000 doesn't render in full screen when you play with TV Out. Also sucks that Vita doesn't have HDMI out either. WiiU may be somewhat salvageable if they made a 3DS player for the thing. (a lot of my GB/C/A playing was on the Game Boy Player for the Cube)
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Pfft. Get a dog, talk to it, reply for him in a different voice, jerk it to weird porn. Rinse and repeat.
I dunno, man. Take a sample of the married guys on this board and a sample of the single guys, check and see which group seems more likely to put a gun to their head tomorrow.
The relationship thread backs this up.
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Pfft. Get a dog, talk to it, reply for him in a different voice, jerk it to weird porn. Rinse and repeat.
I dunno, man. Take a sample of the married guys on this board and a sample of the single guys, check and see which group seems more likely to put a gun to their head tomorrow.
touche
Not everyone can be as obviously well adjusted as me I guess
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Catherine sold about 25% of what P4 did.
I expect P5 to be very much in the manner of P4, right down to its relative choice of platform.
FWIW, a couple of the GAF mods (aeana and duckroll) have strongly implied that it's for PS4. That'd be very surprising giving Atlus' platform history, I know, but IIRC they have a fairly good track record on such things.
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PS4 dev kits aren't as expensive as the PS3 dev kits were initially. Atlus can probably afford to switch to next-gen sooner this time. Then again I wouldn't be surprised to see Persona 5 for a number of other platforms.
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It's probably costly to retool the game for a different architecture. Building a medium budget RPG from scratch for the PS4 shouldn't be that much more expensive. I imagine Gust will jump ship quite soon. They can keep many of the same old art assets and just increase the resolution and add some more post-processing effects and most of their fans will be perfectly happy with it.
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It's not the cost of the devkits, it's the cost of development. Going next gen might result in a longer tail, while going current gen will get them more cash upfront. The game was in development for years for current gen, so it probably wouldn't be too hard to walk it back. And Index needs cash now, not later.
Sweet, I'm betting on Grouch. I may get to play Persona 5 on release after all. I have really fond memories of playing P4 at the end of the PS2 gen.
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I imagine it would easier to port something to a more powerful system. You can cut some corners by not optimizing everything.
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Given how hard ps3 is to develop for I'm sure migrating to ps4 wouldn't be hard. Also the game is an Atlus game so it'll have far less assets than say a FFXV.
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X86 architecture is easier yeah but Japanese devs aren't all too familiar with it no? So PS3/X360 might be easier for them.
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Ps4 is easier to develop for. For a smaller dev like Atlus I'm sure that saves lots of time. Also, remember. The rumors indicate ps4 but also say nothing about bone. Similarly they said nothing about XV on bone. Who knows.
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Hmm, true. I completely forgot the amount of time spent developing the game. I thought they started in 2011/2012 after Catherine with the game being in pre-production for a few years but that could just be marketing speak that led me to believe that.
I have no clue what thing that was supposed to happen. Probably because it doesn't exist.
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~Himu finds himself in the Velvet room
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~Himu finds herself in the Velvet room
FTFY, and this actually makes me wonder if Persona 5 will have a female player character... hmm
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Nope
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:ufup
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They didn't add one for P4G so maybe not. It wouldn't be unprecedented as SMT ...if allow a choice between female player and male player, but Persona isn't SMT. Then again P2EP starred a female protag. I'd like to say it's unlikely but definitely possible.
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I think a big problem they have with going with two genders is that Persona traditionally has anime cutscenes and having two versions wouldn't be cost effective. Then again, I'm not sure how it was handled in P3P.
edit: just watched the female protag version of protag Persona awakening in p3p. Good lord. :snoop
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It's Japan. It won't fit with the schoolboy type. P5 will have a male protag.
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That utterly depends on whether they're going to age the characters to appeal to an older demo or not. If they're in college or post-college, the more the likelihood of a female protag increases.
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they can make it a twelfth night situation. main characters of 3 and 4 are androgynous enough to pass as girls passing as guys.
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No they aren't. :what
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I'm with Oscar, this is gonna be PS3/360.
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I'm with Oscar, this is gonna be PS3/360.
#StandWithOscar
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I was brown nosing Oscar before you fools. (http://i.imgur.com/FuqnPhm.gif)
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:teehee
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I'd heard something to that extent as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if plans have changed.
Translation: Plans have changed. Atlus in financial ruin. Persona 5 going to the highest bidder. Nerds everywhere slayed by Don Mattrick's swan song.
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I was brown nosing Oscar before you fools. (http://i.imgur.com/FuqnPhm.gif)
Didn't you start posting, like, two months ago or something?
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Think about that thing that was supposed to happen but didn't. Why do you suppose things went that way?
I wish I knew what this was referring to.
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If they are smart it will be ps3/360/vita? and then a Golden Shower version for ps4 with better textures, more pretty particles during battle and a new animu character to befriend.
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yes, it will be smart to put the game on ps3/360, which are at the end of their life. jrpg console fans are starved, and jrpg releases that come out within the launch window of consoles almost NEVER happen, especially quality ones. it would be oh so smart to not put this on next gen systems. I mean, you ALWAYS make more money you're competing with other people versus having NO COMPETITION!
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:lol
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Much larger install base with the HD twins. But anyway, it's not like Atlus released P4 on the PS2 after the PS3 lau-- oh wait.
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Butt seriously, 4+ years in active development? I thought Catherine taught the to be more efficient and better prepared.
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Butt seriously, 4+ years in active development? I thought Catherine taught the to be more efficient and better prepared.
Nothing surprises me this generation. 2nd Super Robot Wars OG was in developmental hell for years. It had a release date at one point and even cover art, and was then delayed another year and a half until November 2012.
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Yeah, it's pretty sad
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Butt seriously, 4+ years in active development? I thought Catherine taught the to be more efficient and better prepared.
That game was on Gamebryo FFS
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Butt seriously, 4+ years in active development? I thought Catherine taught the to be more efficient and better prepared.
That game was on Gamebryo FFS
Yep, and then Atlus moved on to a new engine for P5.
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Mystery solved. Goddammit Japan