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Title: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 08:51:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d__QncYv3VU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC-Hl33Xqpk
http://www.capcom-unity.com/combofiend/blog/2014/05/22/usfiv-final-character-change-list

EDIT: INFO BLATANTLY RIPPED-OFF FROM GAF

(http://i.imgur.com/IU1awrR.jpg)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: treythemovie on July 13, 2013, 08:55:37 PM
Better than them spamming out SF5 like some fans want.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 13, 2013, 08:57:18 PM
:obama
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 08:57:45 PM
This is pretty much them putting the nail in the coffin on Street Fighter X Tekken, which I think is a shame since it really ended up pretty good after its updates.

Well, at least this is a substantial update.  And it's been a while.

Yes, and it's not any kind of rip-off at $15 for existing SSF4 owners.  Although I'm surprised that they didn't also announce a next-gen version with upgraded visuals or a version on the next-gen PSN and XBLA.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Purple Filth on July 13, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Some time ago, Capcom announced that another free balance patch was coming for Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition.  Most thought this would be a "Version 2013" update and that would be it.

Well, Capcom being CAPCOM, they have decided to do what I figured was inevitable: Elena, Rolento, Hugo, and Poison from Street Fighter X Tekken will be added into the game, plus a mystery "new" fifth character who has not been revealed yet.  In addition to the characters, six new stages and the balance updates will be included.  This version of the game is coming to PS3, 360, and PC.  $15 as add-on DLC for Super or $40 standalone.

Announced in this panel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBpk3pczik

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If you want to buy the retail version of the game you get all the costumes for free (Capcom says this is a $40 value). Also if you preorder you get 5 new costumes for the new characters.

Some People were saying Alex so I would go with him as the fifth, plus SFIV needs more HYPABAMB
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 08:59:50 PM
Well, the announcer said it's a new character "who has never been in a Street Fighter game before."

Personally I think they should just make a huge version of the game with every existing character not yet added from Alpha and SF3 and call it "SF4 Final Edition."  There's not even that many characters left to add at this point. 

Then start over completely fresh with SF5 in a few years.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Purple Filth on July 13, 2013, 09:04:36 PM
Well, the announcer said it's a new character "who has never been in a Street Fighter game before."

Personally I think they should just make a huge version of the game with every existing character not yet added from Alpha and SF3 and call it "SF4 Final Edition."  There's not even that many characters left to add at this point. 

Then start over completely fresh with SF5 in a few years.

bork/Stalin plz  :'(



seriously though that should be interesting and I would assume they go the loli fighter route but I just remembered that Ingrid exists already  :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 09:10:49 PM
Capcom doesn't do loli.  Even Sakura, Karin, and yes even Ingrid don't fit that description.

I'm way more hyped for this version of the game than I was for AE.  Never cared for Yun/Yang and two more shotos in Evil Ryu and Oni were a waste of character slots.  This is definitely gonna get me back on SF4 again big-time and that's gonna be it for SFxTK.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Purple Filth on July 13, 2013, 10:26:13 PM
Capcom doesn't do loli.  Even Sakura, Karin, and yes even Ingrid don't fit that description.

was taking more of looking like an age thing (unless we go with the she's actually XX years than she looks) than the titillation.

like the mvc2 style idea for what they should do but i'm wary about that version of SF 5 (3 was supposed to be that until fans bitched and moaned)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
People always bitch and moan, but after a good five years of SF4 so far and another 1-2 years more, hopefully they'll be ready for something new.  I also think if they include a few of the most popular characters in there, there'd be a lot less whining.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 11:17:55 PM
Some of the character changes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FktzGS3JzCM

T. Hawk!!  Dee Jay!!  :o

Chun buffs :drool

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 13, 2013, 11:25:13 PM
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angstygaijin: Any hints on the new fight locales?

Matt Dahlgren: The stages are actually the same ones you saw in SF x T. If you played them in that game, then they’ll look familiar to you.

LOL recyclefest.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on July 14, 2013, 12:20:07 AM
Wow, they really are recycling the Street Fighter part of Street x Tek, eh?

Give me that Cody LK from base SxT, Capcom.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mjemirzian on July 14, 2013, 07:22:08 AM
Capcom please don't pull another "Yun". I hope they've learned their lessons about deliberately making certain characters OP.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: tiesto on July 14, 2013, 10:28:20 AM
I never picked up Arcade Edition, but getting Rolento, Elena and Poison in a new standalone is fucking great. SF4 is one of my fave fighters of the generation. Hopefully we'll get some new stages too :P
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Raban on July 14, 2013, 12:19:32 PM
I JUST bought AE on a daily Steam sale last week, thinking "This is surely the last version they'll make!" :-\
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 14, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
Capcom doesn't do loli.  Even Sakura, Karin, and yes even Ingrid don't fit that description.

I'm way more hyped for this version of the game than I was for AE.  Never cared for Yun/Yang and two more shotos in Evil Ryu and Oni were a waste of character slots.  This is definitely gonna get me back on SF4 again big-time and that's gonna be it for SFxTK.

Roll? B.B. Hood? Lilith? 

Street Fighter hasn't done loli yet, but Capcom?  Capcom loves them some loli.

And Devilot and Anita.  Yes, I meant to say "Street Fighter" instead of "Capcom."   :P

Hopefully we'll get some new stages too :P

SFxTK stages are being added.

I JUST bought AE on a daily Steam sale last week, thinking "This is surely the last version they'll make!" :-\

Nothing to be sad about- it's gonna be a $15 upgrade for you.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 14, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
Doesn't AE run on GFWL though, and it takes Capcom something like 6 months to certify any DLC for it?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 14, 2013, 07:32:01 PM
Doesn't AE run on GFWL though, and it takes Capcom something like 6 months to certify any DLC for it?

It does, so that DLC is either going to be late or Capcom is going to somehow drop it and go with Steamworks like they've mentioned before.  It's worth noting that Remember Me and Resident Evil Revelation don't use GFWL.

There's no doubt that if you want this content on day one, plan to get it on a console.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: tiesto on July 14, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
SFxTK stages are being added.

Shit, hopefully the half-pipe. LOVE the song!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ptDGy98dc

Also while we're at it, can we bring back Indestructible? :P
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 14, 2013, 11:09:53 PM
They're showing the preview trailer now.  The game's name is now going to be Ultra Street Fighter IV.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 14, 2013, 11:34:01 PM
I'll wait for Ultra Street Fighter IV: Championship Edition.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 12:08:52 AM
Thank god this isn't Hyper like rumors suggested. Hyper fighting sucks.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: archie4208 on July 15, 2013, 12:18:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/BG45kh1.jpg)

RIP in peace GFWL
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Robo on July 15, 2013, 01:07:09 AM
Meh.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2013, 01:24:17 AM
Games for Windows DEAD
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 01:34:00 AM
Elena :hyper
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: MCD on July 15, 2013, 02:36:48 AM
Where are the Tekken characters
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Rufus on July 15, 2013, 08:21:09 AM
They're F2P now.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 15, 2013, 01:05:35 PM
Sweet, no more GFLW bullshit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM0BbPcSAgw
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 15, 2013, 03:23:36 PM
Watch the 5th character be Asura from Asura's Wrath.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 15, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
Watch the 5th character be Asura from Asura's Wrath.

Nope.  Ono already shot down it being Asura or Bad Boxart Mega Man.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: magus on July 15, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
it's toro

or pac man
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 15, 2013, 03:53:38 PM
it's toro

or pac man

Sony and Namco characters?   :what
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: brob on July 15, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
I think Haggar is likely. which is a shame, cus I could really do without Haggar. Both Hugo and Gief do that thing better imo. Maybe Morrigan from Darkstalkers (assuming they were working on  a new one that got canceled and have the model laying around)? She might be neat, a bit of an aesthetic clash though.


Also, lulz at the udon costumes. Tribal african bikini is so uncreative I would be ashamed having my name to it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: magus on July 15, 2013, 04:32:31 PM
it's toro

or pac man

Sony and Namco characters?   :what

i was trying to play the SFXT game too :'(

maybe they can pick heihachi,rip off his hair,call him haihechi and be done with it,he's already in a karate gi so half of the job for another shoto clone is already done :heh

in all seriousness i tought it would be a brand new character,i mean what would be the point of turning it into a big deal if it's just going to be another cameo character like haggar? "here's 4 character from previous capcom game! and another mystery character! which is also from a previous game!"
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 02, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Out tomorrow!  :hyper :hyper

Possibly unlocked early for PS3 pre-purchasers at midnight! 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 02, 2014, 12:08:17 PM
So if I get this as an upgrade for my SSF4, do I get the AE characters with it, too?  I skipped that version.

Yup.  They're being smart and not leaving anyone out.  Any version of SSF4 can be upgraded to Ultra and will get all of the content.

But if you have the Japanese version, I don't think this is coming until August, if at all- they are purposefully holding back the digital upgrade on JPSN/XBL because of the arcade version.   :-\
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Robo on June 02, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
Aren't there like a million of these Street Fighter games already?  Did we really need another one?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
Robo which one are you getting?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on June 02, 2014, 07:31:58 PM
Aren't there like a million of these Street Fighter games already?  Did we really need another one?

Yes. No, but fuck it, recycled characters from a failed cross-over! Respectively.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Robo on June 02, 2014, 07:41:27 PM
Robo which one are you getting?

XBL—but I can't promise I'll be on to play it much.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 02, 2014, 11:19:09 PM
Aren't there like a million of these Street Fighter games already?  Did we really need another one?

Yes, yes we did.  It's a game that still gets tons and tons of play time, has a huge community behind it, and this upgrade is only $15.  So was Arcade Edition.  This is the route that they should be going when it comes to updates like this.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 03, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
This game is so good.  So good.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: tiesto on June 03, 2014, 09:25:57 PM
Since I didn't pick up AE, I'm gonna wait for the physical edition.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 03, 2014, 11:33:02 PM
Played for a good six hours online and stuck with new characters 90% of the time. From what I played/saw, it seems like Decapre and Poison are the best of the newcomers, followed by Hugo and Rolento, with Elena stuck dead last. I still had fun using her though. Hard to believe that there are people who still get thrown off by healing, expecting it to be something offensive, lol.

Seeing a lot of complaints about problems online.  I played endless lobbies only, in small 2 or 3 man rooms, and didn't have any issues.  Seems like the larger ones are where the problems lie.  It will be fixed soon enough though.  All of this reminds me of when vanilla SF4 and SSF4 came out. 

Not sure who I am going to stick with just yet.  I want to switch up and main someone new for sure.

Since I didn't pick up AE, I'm gonna wait for the physical edition.

You know you can upgrade from Super too, right?  Just want to be sure.   :)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2014, 12:14:32 AM
Played for a good six hours online and stuck with new characters 90% of the time. From what I played/saw, it seems like Decapre and Poison are the best of the newcomers, followed by Hugo and Rolento, with Elena stuck dead last.
Smfh, I can't win with SF4...
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 04, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
It's still way, way too early to rule anyone out.  I see that pro player Chris G. has taken up using Elena.  Wouldn't surprise me if new strategies come out of nowhere.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: brob on June 04, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
bought AE and Ultra on PSN just now.

excited to see if this downloads before I go to bed in five or so hours.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 04, 2014, 01:17:12 PM
Justin Wong is using Elena too and won that pre-release tournament with her. I've been using Poison mostly but her hitboxes are weird. I may end up just going back to Cammy but I really want to get good with one of the new characters.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 04, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
Try Decapre. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 04, 2014, 03:31:13 PM
Add me MUTHA FUCKAZ for online play.  lyteedge2
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2014, 03:36:48 PM
I'll be playing this on the 360. Downloading now.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 04, 2014, 06:31:09 PM
I gave Decapre a cursory look in training mode, def gonna need to put more time in to figure here out. She seems like she could be really cool, but so technical.

Poison remains frustrating. I dunno if she has a consistent AA. Most of them seem to trade which is kinda wack. Dem fireballs doe. Her elbow seems good too.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 04, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
I gave Decapre a cursory look in training mode, def gonna need to put more time in to figure here out. She seems like she could be really cool, but so technical.

IIRC they said she was actually pretty beginner-friendly.  Her moves/abilities are all pretty easy to get down quickly.

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Poison remains frustrating. I dunno if she has a consistent AA. Most of them seem to trade which is kinda wack. Dem fireballs doe. Her elbow seems good too.

Was doing well with her tonight, mainly by playing at medium range, doing some quick pokes/going for rekkas up close, then backing away and zoning.  When you're medium range, you've not only got fireballs, but also her flip stomp/grab move, which goes over projectiles.  One guy told me after a bunch of battles that he had no idea how to stop that-- definitely throws people off.  It's like a longer-range Chun-Li axe kick.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2014, 10:31:41 PM
Having to wait for failed cross-over recycled characters update on PC. :fbm
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: tiesto on June 04, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
Played for a good six hours online and stuck with new characters 90% of the time. From what I played/saw, it seems like Decapre and Poison are the best of the newcomers, followed by Hugo and Rolento, with Elena stuck dead last. I still had fun using her though. Hard to believe that there are people who still get thrown off by healing, expecting it to be something offensive, lol.

Seeing a lot of complaints about problems online.  I played endless lobbies only, in small 2 or 3 man rooms, and didn't have any issues.  Seems like the larger ones are where the problems lie.  It will be fixed soon enough though.  All of this reminds me of when vanilla SF4 and SSF4 came out. 

Not sure who I am going to stick with just yet.  I want to switch up and main someone new for sure.

Since I didn't pick up AE, I'm gonna wait for the physical edition.

You know you can upgrade from Super too, right?  Just want to be sure.   :)

That I didn't! But I'm a fan of physical media in general and the person I'm primarily gonna play this game against will already have the online version so when I go to his house I can just play that...
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 04, 2014, 11:57:52 PM
Was doing well with her tonight, mainly by playing at medium range, doing some quick pokes/going for rekkas up close, then backing away and zoning.  When you're medium range, you've not only got fireballs, but also her flip stomp/grab move, which goes over projectiles.  One guy told me after a bunch of battles that he had no idea how to stop that-- definitely throws people off.  It's like a longer-range Chun-Li axe kick.
Yeah her zoning is really impressive. Also that flip kick thing breaks armor, I noticed that in some local games today. Really nice way to get in. Her U1 is really easy to get off as well, works off of EX rekka and doesn't take too much of a damage hit from the scaling. Still not sure how best to use U2.

Also maybe it's just me but it seems PSN is especially poor with Ultra, worse than AE was. Sometimes it's basically like playing underwater.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: originalz on June 05, 2014, 02:02:32 AM
WNF's first USF4 stream, lots of people trying new things:

http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Raban on June 05, 2014, 02:08:08 AM
I just messed around with this cuz my friend bought it and :whew shit's awesome. Decapre is a lot of fun as she's a mix of my two favorite characters: Bison and Cammy. I like her moveset and you can combo into a goddamn air grab shit's SO tight.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 05, 2014, 03:22:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh5XBQHQWRs

 :lol

Also maybe it's just me but it seems PSN is especially poor with Ultra, worse than AE was. Sometimes it's basically like playing underwater.

Netcode can definitely be iffy.  People have been complaining about it for both PS3 and 360...and also in AE 2012 post-Steamworks on PC.   :-\
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 06, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
Saw some inspiring stuff with Elena last night, but I think I'm gonna end up settling for Poison, Hugo, and Decapre, with classic Chun, T. Hawk, and Rose usage.

Sometimes it feels like using Decapre is like playing in easy mode.  You can really shut people down with little effort in some match-ups.   :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on June 06, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Tried Decapre yesterday. She felt quick as hell for a charge character.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Robo on June 06, 2014, 12:28:18 PM
The music in this game is so shitty.  I want my $15 bitcoins back.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 06, 2014, 12:33:16 PM
The music in this game is so shitty.  I want my $15 bitcoins back.

It's the same music as before.  You don't like either soundtrack option?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Robo on June 06, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
I'm partially kidding (in the sense that I care at all), but the menu music is certainly different and the tracks for the SFxT stages are pretty awful.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 06, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
Yeah menu and character select music stinks. Just bring back Indestructible damnit.

For in-game I've just been using character themes to not have to listen to the SxT music.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 06, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
Indestructible was the best.   :'(

I've been using the character themes, too.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Raban on June 07, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
Omg Fuerte is so fun! I decided to pick him up after seeing a dude dominate with him in a tourney and he's a great character. Dat mixup game, the speed, the mindfuckery, such a fun dude. It's scary when I make mistakes and start feeling my low health but if I keep my head on straight I can carve away the other dude no problem.

I remember trying him back in Super and just not liking his damage at all but that seems to be a lot better now :) fun stuff
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on June 07, 2014, 08:32:10 PM
Fuck Fuerte
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 07, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
He should have been called "El Guapo."

Been having loads of fun with Decapre and Poison.  Hugo too.  It's awesome destroying people with him in particular.  Sometimes I get totally schooled but it's still a good time.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: brob on June 08, 2014, 03:49:06 PM
Playing on PS3 and online works surprisingly well for me, although it takes quite a while to get matches thru fight request. It's still a bit bothersome that you can only choose between 'same' or 'any' region, considering Norway is quite small and going full-on global pits me against Brazilians and shit, but eh.

also loading on ps3 is trash, even compared to earlier ps3 versions, like, holy hell capcom...
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on June 08, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
T hawk is a real piece of shit
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 20, 2014, 02:16:29 AM
I got this junk on 360. XBL is majornws if anyone wants to play.

After playing I'm glad I did too. XBL is just so much better online than PSN.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 20, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
is this on steam
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on June 20, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
is this on steam
Yeah, but you need AE also just like with the console versions.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2014, 10:57:25 AM
is this on steam
Yeah, but you need AE also just like with the console versions.

???

Bork said in this very thread you can upgrade just with ultra.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2014, 11:12:32 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/301660/

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Pre-Purchase Ultra Street Fighter® IV Digital Upgrade
Current owners of Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition can purchase this package to upgrade from Arcade Edition to Ultra Street Fighter IV. Pre-purchase includes the 2014 Challengers Costume Pack for free. Ultra Street Fighter IV available August 8th, 2014.
$14.99

Pre-Purchase Ultra Street Fighter IV
Customers who do not yet own Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition can buy this package to pre-purchase Ultra Street Fighter IV. Pre-purchase includes the 2014 Challengers Costume Pack for free.
$29.99
The package gives you AE and the upgrade. You can install AE as soon as you buy.

Personally, I'd wait to see if you can get AE cheaper and just buy the upgrade because AE has been like seven bucks or less before.

EDIT: AE is the only version on Steam and I think they upgraded everybody who just had Super due to GFWL.

EDIT2: Guess regular SFIV is still on there.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on June 20, 2014, 11:29:56 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/301660/

Quote
Pre-Purchase Ultra Street Fighter® IV Digital Upgrade
Current owners of Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition can purchase this package to upgrade from Arcade Edition to Ultra Street Fighter IV. Pre-purchase includes the 2014 Challengers Costume Pack for free. Ultra Street Fighter IV available August 8th, 2014.
$14.99

Pre-Purchase Ultra Street Fighter IV
Customers who do not yet own Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition can buy this package to pre-purchase Ultra Street Fighter IV. Pre-purchase includes the 2014 Challengers Costume Pack for free.
$29.99
The package gives you AE and the upgrade. You can install AE as soon as you buy.

Personally, I'd wait to see if you can get AE cheaper and just buy the upgrade because AE has been like seven bucks or less before.

EDIT: AE is the only version on Steam and I think they upgraded everybody who just had Super due to GFWL.

EDIT2: Guess regular SFIV is still on there.

Because Ultra doesn't hit PC until August, benji. :comeon
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
 ???

I know?

Was just saying I'd wait if you didn't have AE because it's probably going to be cheaper somewhere by August. And that everyone seems to have gotten upgraded because I think I only bought Super? Or did only AE come out on PC, can't remember.

EDIT: Okay, Super didn't come out on PC, just AE did. I thought Super had, nevermind.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on June 20, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
Oh, I thought it was already up. Ah well.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 20, 2014, 01:04:03 PM
Only Vanilla and AE came out on PC. Super was console only, never hit PC or arcades. AE will probably hit $7.50 some time during the Steam sale for those that want it cheap, it always does.

Continuing to love Poison now that I've got her AA down a bit more. Those fireballs of hers are just too amazing, love the recovery on them. My big issue with her now is I'm not sure what to do in the corner, just seem to get locked down with no recourse.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 20, 2014, 03:18:02 PM
I love me some Poison -80s style :rock- but I seem to do better with Decapre.

I love using Hugo and Poison just because of their character designs.  Hugo looks better in sprite form and looks a bit too goofy at times in SFxTK/Ultra though.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 20, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Yeah Hugo looks way better in 2D than 3D. In 3D he looks like he has a palsy of some sort.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 20, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 24, 2014, 01:48:53 PM
First hate mail I've ever gotten from someone who was supposed to be "training."  He only used Elena and lost each time we played.  I used different characters every time and won 6-0.  Was surprised at the salt flow.

(http://i.imgur.com/E6sl2b2.jpg)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 25, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
 :lol :lol :lol

Awesome! PSN people are so much more likely to send hate mail from what I've noticed.

So this Friday I'm having a drunken master bday tourney (gotta take a shot before each set) with edition select. Not sure who to play. I'll probably end up going Cammy just cause I wanna play a vanilla version of someone but I stink with Sagat.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 08:05:01 AM
I do miss the voice message hate mail from XBL. 

There's also an increase in tards with mics.  I love letting them scream whatever for several minutes before I message them to tell them that I have the sound down and can't hear a word.   :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on June 26, 2014, 01:53:12 PM
That's the one thing from Steamworks AE I like, it always has mic on by default so you can hear people raging on the other end even when they think their mic is off.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on August 06, 2014, 06:24:11 PM
Haven't found a straight answer on this so I'm hoping someone here can help. Are the new character trials on the disc or is it the same ones from Super SF4?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: brob on August 06, 2014, 06:29:48 PM
No new trials when I downloaded on ps3. Went into SuperIV mode, just like AE did. Are they doing more (as DLC)?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on August 06, 2014, 06:33:02 PM
When the DLC version of Ultra came out I believe Capcom said that the new trials would be coming later. I assumed they meant the full game download/disc release but now I'm not sure.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 06, 2014, 10:39:58 PM
Haven't found a straight answer on this so I'm hoping someone here can help. Are the new character trials on the disc or is it the same ones from Super SF4?

Nothing on the disc version either.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on August 07, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
Patch tomorrow:

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Following the release of Ultra Street Fighter 4 in Japan today, Capcom has announced that an update patch that addresses a number of known bugs will be released tomorrow, August 8, for the PS3, X360 and arcade versions of the game.

This update is not a rebalance patch, but rather fixes some of unintended properties on a number of characters' moves. Most notably, with this update, Rolento's invisible wall jump and Poison's while-rising glitch will be removed.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/aug/07/ultra-street-fighter-4-bug-fix-update-ps3x360arcade-hits-august-8/


So this isn't the rebalance patch they talked about during EVO. I wonder how many months we'll be waiting for that one.. fucking capcom.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on August 07, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
after they spend more time to collect everyone's opinion and then throw it in the trash like they did when making ultra


...says the dude who just spent another $15 to play this on PC
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 07, 2014, 09:23:47 PM
The PC version is up!   :D


So this isn't the rebalance patch they talked about during EVO. I wonder how many months we'll be waiting for that one.. fucking capcom.

Of course it's not.  Why would you want them to rush that?  The home version is only two months old and it was an update to the initial arcade release from April.  Let people keep discovering more shit first.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 07, 2014, 10:35:48 PM
PC has some pretty bad issues online right now.  They need to patch it ASAP.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on August 08, 2014, 09:43:11 AM
The PC version is up!   :D


So this isn't the rebalance patch they talked about during EVO. I wonder how many months we'll be waiting for that one.. fucking capcom.

Of course it's not.  Why would you want them to rush that?  The home version is only two months old and it was an update to the initial arcade release from April.  Let people keep discovering more shit first.

cause i'm not happy with what they did to some of the characters i play. fuck figuring shit out, they need to stop being so scared of buffing
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 08, 2014, 10:29:58 AM
The PC version is up!   :D


So this isn't the rebalance patch they talked about during EVO. I wonder how many months we'll be waiting for that one.. fucking capcom.

Of course it's not.  Why would you want them to rush that?  The home version is only two months old and it was an update to the initial arcade release from April.  Let people keep discovering more shit first.

cause i'm not happy with what they did to some of the characters i play. fuck figuring shit out, they need to stop being so scared of buffing

Who do you use?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on August 08, 2014, 11:06:24 AM
Main was Ryu but I also play a bunch of Cody and Dee Jay...
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on August 08, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
They specifically mentioned Deejay at the panel as someone they were gonna fix so that's something.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on August 10, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
Capcom stealth nerfed Decapre  :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on August 10, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
PC has some pretty bad issues online right now.  They need to patch it ASAP.

It's been bad since Steamworks. I haven't bothered with booting the game (or buying Ultra) because of it. Shame King of Fighters is dead on PC. Nothing but red bars of someone nearby that will womp me in seconds.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on August 10, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Capcom stealth nerfed Decapre  :lol
How?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on August 10, 2014, 08:44:29 PM
Capcom stealth nerfed Decapre  :lol
How?

Increased charge times

http://shoryuken.com/2014/08/10/ultra-street-fighter-iv-weekend-community-roundup-dudley-maximum-damage-combos-oni-raging-demon-setups-and-more/

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on August 10, 2014, 10:44:09 PM
Smh, they eventually nerf just about everyone I have interest in.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 11, 2014, 01:26:50 AM
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/bb-csx/

kokonoe looks op to me
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on August 11, 2014, 01:56:26 AM
Kokonoe is still pretty good, but she's definitely not OP like she used to be at all. Also EH tierlists are horseshit cause it's all decided by "fan vote".

Honestly not shocked at the Decapre changes but I still think they are dumb. If she's supposed to be offensive-focused why increase charge times? Especially on her Spiral Arrow. Makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 11, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/bb-csx/

kokonoe looks op to me

um  ???
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on August 11, 2014, 07:01:35 PM
So it seems the Dekappa nerf was an accident. Good lord Capcom.  :lol

Quote
With regards to the anomaly we've confirmed to exist in the August 8 update

The August 8 update (PS3/Xbox 360/PC/AC) for Ultra Street Fighter 4 contained changes to the characteristics for a few fighters that were unintended.

Rolento
EX Stinger (3 hit) -> Close standing MP would no longer connect.

Decapre
Psycho Sting and DCM's charge time were increased by 10 frames.

As the changes listed above would affect the balance of the game, we're currently looking into a fix for these issues. Once we have something new to report on the situation, we'll let you know on this blog.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/aug/11/capcom-replies-sudden-decapre-and-rolento-nerfs-ultra-street-fighter-4-states-they-are-unintentional/
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Beezy on August 11, 2014, 08:26:55 PM
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/bb-csx/

kokonoe looks op to me

um  ???
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 12, 2014, 10:59:52 PM
Wacky vacation outfits are out.  Full set is $20, with 22 color variations for each.  Hugo's is stylin'.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on August 14, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
So it seems the Dekappa nerf was an accident. Good lord Capcom.  :lol

I guess that's why I'm not feeling Dekappa. That or I suck with charge characters. Or both. :fbm
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 15, 2014, 09:02:43 AM
Played a crazy good Poison player on Steam last night.  He was already up to almost 4000 BP with her.  Spammed those fireballs like there's no tomorrow and shut down Hugo, although I almost got him in the rematch. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Then I switched to Chun and murdered him.  Replay fuckin' saved.  :rock
[close]

So it seems the Dekappa nerf was an accident. Good lord Capcom.  :lol

I guess that's why I'm not feeling Dekappa. That or I suck with charge characters. Or both. :fbm

The "nerf" was just a 10 frame increased charge time for her Ultras.  Stupid, but not character breaking.  Decapre is fun to use once you get the hang of her.  I love that she has an actual overhead, too -something Cammy is missing- and even now, two months after release, people will still crouch and leave themselves open to it once you get them cornered.   :lol

But I've been all about Hugo lately.  He's too much fun and it pisses a surprisingly large number of people off to lose to him.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on August 15, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
I just can't do her super or ultra at all. So I basically have just been spamming 6MP/HP and praying for the best against the AI.  :lol :fbm
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 15, 2014, 10:00:41 AM
I just can't do her super or ultra at all. So I basically have just been spamming 6MP/HP and praying for the best against the AI.  :lol :fbm

Maybe you're not holding back long enough?  Try counting 1 one-thousand, 2 one-thousand then doing it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 15, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
This was a fun match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmQcNujpa8s

Came back and beat this 5105 BP Ibuki player, only to get kicked after the match.  Let the salt flow!
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Rufus on August 15, 2014, 08:51:05 PM
What's your inbox looking like? The only time people would message me on XBLA was when I played SF4. :heh
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on August 15, 2014, 09:31:42 PM
I just can't do her super or ultra at all. So I basically have just been spamming 6MP/HP and praying for the best against the AI.  :lol :fbm

Maybe you're not holding back long enough?  Try counting 1 one-thousand, 2 one-thousand then doing it.

Nah, I can hold back. It's when it's 4(Hold)6(quickly)4(quickly)6(hold? dash? Longer black arrow)+PPP or KKK or just a P/K it throws me.

Anything that isn't HCF/QCF/B kills me. :fbm
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on August 16, 2014, 12:38:01 AM
This was a fun match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmQcNujpa8s

Came back and beat this 5105 BP Ibuki player, only to get kicked after the match.  Let the salt flow!

hahaha that wake up FA at 1:33. Guy fucking panicked. When I used to go to my (no longer) local weekly fighting game lan/arcade I almost always played against this incredibly good Ibuki, and this was back when I first picked Cody up... after the first knockdown it was usually gg for me :'(

fuck ibuki and fuck being free on wakeup
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 16, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
What's your inbox looking like? The only time people would message me on XBLA was when I played SF4. :heh

Not as much hatemail lately.   :(

Nah, I can hold back. It's when it's 4(Hold)6(quickly)4(quickly)6(hold? dash? Longer black arrow)+PPP or KKK or just a P/K it throws me.

Anything that isn't HCF/QCF/B kills me. :fbm

Last part of that should just be 6+PPP or KKK.  No need to hold anything.  Hit up training and practice it!   :)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on August 16, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
So wait instead of 4(hold) 646 it's just 4(hold)6 for the Ultra? Why is the notation icon a 646666666 dealie?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on August 17, 2014, 10:43:06 AM
Huh?

No, it's charge back -> forward -> back -> forward + PPP/KKK at the same time.  Or CB 4646+PPP/KKK.  I'm just saying that the only part you should be charging/holding is the first back motion.

What kind of controller do you use?  If it's a stock pad and you're using an analog stick, that could be the problem.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on August 17, 2014, 05:22:01 PM
Nah, I'm using the stock PS3/DS3 Dpad. Maybe I'm hitting 2 on the transition to 4646+PPP on it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: chronovore on September 15, 2014, 02:14:49 AM
:lol :lol :lol

Awesome! PSN people are so much more likely to send hate mail from what I've noticed.

So this Friday I'm having a drunken master bday tourney (gotta take a shot before each set) with edition select. Not sure who to play. I'll probably end up going Cammy just cause I wanna play a vanilla version of someone but I stink with Sagat.
I think PSN peeps usually don't have the mic, so they're relegated to spamming type-ahead messages with a virtual keyboard.

I do miss the voice message hate mail from XBL. 

There's also an increase in tards with mics.  I love letting them scream whatever for several minutes before I message them to tell them that I have the sound down and can't hear a word.   :lol
My least favorite MS design decision in years is having the Kinect microphone default to "on." Most players don't know, care, or notice enough that they're broadcasting their own game's audio back at everyone, plus their screaming kids or moms, or their crappy music. :maf

But, yeah, as much as I dislike that passive, thoughtless inconsideration, I like it even less when some 8-year-old makes me question the validity of my hobby when they start trying to act hard in a voce soprano.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on September 15, 2014, 02:04:52 PM
SF4 also defaults the Mic to "on" on PCs, post-Steamworks.   >:(
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on September 20, 2014, 09:58:25 AM
Omega Mode just got announced.  Free DLC mode that will give the characters new/changed up moves and abilities.  Lots of crazy shit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJfJYzlKYmw
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: brob on September 20, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
Ryu w/ donkey kick pls
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on September 20, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
So it's... basically, the mods that people did on PC for characters to be other characters... with faster move properties and other stuff?

Why is this needed? I mean okay, sure it's "free/for fun!" but I really don't get the point of doing this.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on September 30, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
You know, I really didn't expect Poison to become one of my most hated matchups in USF4. I knew for sure that Rolento would be annoying (just as he was annoying in SFA2, SFA3, CVS2 and SFxT...), and Decapre also seemed kind of gimmicky, but I never expected Poison to be as infuriating to fight as she is. She is like Ryu on crack. She zones extremely well, can switch to crazy pressure at the drop of a hat, has some really annoying tactics like crossup love me tender, great backdash, good AA (her cr.HP is very nice). Not to mention that poison players absolutely love to mash ex DP like no one's business.

I've also switched mains around a bit. Went to E.Ryu then to Yang but finally settled on Yun. Yun's combos are so damn satisfying to pull off, and he has some really tight blockstrings with the help of his TC5 and lp shoulder. He also does very good damage thanks to his buffed cr and st.mp.

He is also incredibly cheap.

I've been playing the Steam version over XBL/PSN the last few days and I find that I really miss being able to message players. It sucks ass how you can't message randoms on the Steam ver and from what I can tell there's no "recent players list". GFWL had those things which was nice.

I really wanted to give that mashing Dudley from last night a piece of my mind. That dude mashed out 4 ex DPs almost one after the other... and he also loved to mash ex machine gun blow on wakeup.  ??? >:(
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on October 01, 2014, 01:16:37 AM
Don't get salty- if you want to give a shitty player a piece of your mind...punish them for playing stupidly.

Or enable your mic.   :P
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on October 01, 2014, 01:31:18 AM
Oh I did, he didn't come close to winning. I still can't help but get salty at online tactics so I like to send a sarcastic message or two. Nothing nasty :P
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on October 16, 2014, 10:09:18 AM
New patch came out yesterday and it was supposed to make netplay better.

So, has anyone noticed any improvements? I sure haven't
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on October 16, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
New patch came out yesterday and it was supposed to make netplay better.

So, has anyone noticed any improvements? I sure haven't

Forgot about it!  Will try today.  The netplay improvements are for PC only AFAIK, btw.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on December 15, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
Omega mode (and changes for the regular mode) patch is up.

And an infinite was already found.   :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM10cOPxn4w

:dead
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Rufus on December 15, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
And a really stupid one at that...
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on December 16, 2014, 01:46:15 AM
the best is when you get the life lead and then make them block your infinite  :patel
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Enl on December 16, 2014, 05:05:46 PM
Jumped into my first Omega match last night, my opponent chooses Gen, and he proceeds to easily inifinite kick me through the 3/5 rounds. The salt flowed and I kicked him out shortly after. I hope that patch they released today fixed that because I would really like to pick this back up again soon due to the edition select.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Bebpo on December 16, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Do most people not care about fun and just care about padding their useless stats?


Because that doesn't sound like fun.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on December 16, 2014, 10:26:46 PM
Omega mode (and changes for the regular mode) patch is up.

And an infinite was already found.   :lol

:dead

:dead

Omega? More like Low Kick-a. Kappa.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on December 16, 2014, 11:29:41 PM
Do most people not care about fun and just care about padding their useless stats?


Because that doesn't sound like fun.

Omega is only available in Endless matches.  No rankings affected. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Bebpo on December 17, 2014, 12:12:18 AM
Do most people not care about fun and just care about padding their useless stats?


Because that doesn't sound like fun.

Omega is only available in Endless matches.  No rankings affected.

Then why do that? 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on December 17, 2014, 12:16:26 AM
Do most people not care about fun and just care about padding their useless stats?


Because that doesn't sound like fun.

Omega is only available in Endless matches.  No rankings affected.

Then why do that?

Why do Endless?  That's where you can have lobbies for up to eight players and play for fun.  The option select stuff is kind of unfair in some ways and would break ranked if it were in use.  You can choose to create or find matches with that turned off as well.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Bebpo on December 17, 2014, 12:54:49 AM
Lyte, I'm talking about the stupid leg infinite and how Enl went online to have fun playing and his opponent just did the leg kicks all day.

If the battles are ranked why are people doing stupid shit like that infinite online to other players.  I don't see how that could be more fun than normal playing.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on December 17, 2014, 08:09:43 AM
Lyte, I'm talking about the stupid leg infinite and how Enl went online to have fun playing and his opponent just did the leg kicks all day.

Good.  I was worried there for a second.  ;P

If the battles are ranked why are people doing stupid shit like that infinite online to other players.  I don't see how that could be more fun than normal playing.

Trolling.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on December 18, 2014, 01:57:02 AM
Ryu buffs in 1.04  :rejoice we back baby!

Been trying him out since the moment the patch hit and he is so good now. I can actually zone people out with my fireball and it is fucking awesome. The fireball is now a threat and much harder to block on reaction. The lp fb is great for catching neutral jumpers and hp fb now makes ryu a top class zoner.

Not only that but I hear he can do ridiculous easy damage due to cl.hk now being red focus cancelable. They fucked over Cody by making ex CU non-projectile invincible now, but they made up for it with Ryu buffs.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on December 18, 2014, 08:24:34 AM
I'm sure I've asked this- what do you play on, Yulwei?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Yulwei on December 18, 2014, 11:52:15 AM
PS3, 360 and PC :P i hop randomly between the three. although, i've been playing PC more often these days since i wanted to get my PC PP up to par with my console accounts

you can add me on steam: opunibeam
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on December 18, 2014, 02:17:08 PM
PS3, 360 and PC :P i hop randomly between the three. although, i've been playing PC more often these days since i wanted to get my PC PP up to par with my console accounts

you can add me on steam: opunibeam

What's your PSN ID?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on April 17, 2015, 11:41:48 AM
The PS4 version is coming out in North America and Europe on 5/26 for $24.99.  Appears to be digital-only.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: iconoclast on April 20, 2015, 03:40:20 PM
I hope PS3 sticks will work with this. I'll definitely get it if I can use my Qanba.

In other news, it looks like Super Santarou Man (Sagat) is going to be facing Luffy (Rose) in a $10,000 USF4 money match at Stunfest. Source: https://twitter.com/supersatarou/status/500107362837880832

Hopefully it gets streamed.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on April 21, 2015, 09:15:55 AM
I hope PS3 sticks will work with this.

Unlikely unless people rabble Sony about it. Despite the fact that someone in-house (Naughty Dog) did a driver for it.  :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on April 21, 2015, 09:05:02 PM
MadCatz have licensed sticks to sell.  :lol Capcom isn't gonna support old sticks for shit.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: iconoclast on April 22, 2015, 12:29:44 AM
That's what I've been thinking, but if they don't support PS3 sticks for USF4, they're going to fuck over all of the tournaments that Sony is now sponsoring (and isn't Sony publishing USF4? If they are I'd assume it's their call). Or maybe it'll just screw EVO, since I'm not sure if the smaller tournaments will run the PS4 version.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on April 22, 2015, 12:33:24 AM
Last year MadCatz just had a zillion X1 loaner sticks for KI at EVO, I assume they'll do the same for MKX and USF4 this year
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on April 22, 2015, 12:34:29 AM
There will be sticks that can be rented or borrowed for EVO from Capcom themselves I believe. Smaller tournaments will use common sense and use the army of used 360's out there.

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on April 22, 2015, 01:31:11 AM
MadCatz have licensed sticks to sell.  :lol Capcom isn't gonna support old sticks for shit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-10-23-skullgirls-on-ps4-supports-some-ps3-fight-sticks

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But in a Facebook post Mad Catz community manager "MarkMan" said the company was behind the initiative.

"Lots of love to the Skullgirls team for making this happen!" he said. "I've already seen a few comments online where people mentioned that myself or Mad Catz are probably angry because we can't sell you a new $200 PS4 stick. This is so far from the truth. We are glad that you can continue to use your FightStick & hope more developers follow suit so that our products can become your weapons for more years to come. Happy gaming!"

Okay, bro. The problem is Sony is REQUIRING developers to do it themselves (Skullgirls only got it because someone internal at Naughty Dog/Sony-first party did the legwork instead of Lab Zero having to do the legwork themselves). Mortal Kombat got the driver support IIRC. Arc System Works didn't use the driver so GG:Xrd doesn't allow PS3 sticks.

Since this is a Sony (not Capcom! Sony is bankrolling/doing it themselves) port it's a matter of rabble rabble rabble-ing Sony to use the ND driver. Capcom would be able to "veto" it but what do they give a shit about, the peripherals aren't their business.

As it is: MadCatz is doing "retro" PS3/4 cross-compatible sticks so if people are worried about driver support, they can buy those. But I seriously doubt MadCatz is that pissed about the driver if it means they can get someone when their stick eventually breaks over people NOT buying a new stick because they aren't buying fighting games due to lack of stick support in next-gen consoles from their previous gen/hardware.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on April 22, 2015, 08:17:01 AM
The Skullgirls people are the ones who made the driver, not Naughty Dog, that they've offered up as free for anyone to use, for using older controllers/sticks on PS4.  It's even in the article you linked to.
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The PlayStation 4 version of 2D fighting game Skullgirls Encore will support PlayStation 3 fight sticks, developer Lab Zero Games has revealed.

The studio created a custom USB driver that means any stick that reads as a generic USB gamepad or joystick will work with the PS4 version of the game - and it's making the driver available to other developers free of charge.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on April 22, 2015, 10:01:48 AM
The Skullgirls people are the ones who made the driver, not Naughty Dog, that they've offered up as free for anyone to use, for using older controllers/sticks on PS4.  It's even in the article you linked to.
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The PlayStation 4 version of 2D fighting game Skullgirls Encore will support PlayStation 3 fight sticks, developer Lab Zero Games has revealed.

The studio created a custom USB driver that means any stick that reads as a generic USB gamepad or joystick will work with the PS4 version of the game - and it's making the driver available to other developers free of charge.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/27/skullgirls-encore-developer-creates-ps3-to-ps4-controller-drivers

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The USB driver was coded for Lab Zero by Naughty Dog programmer John Bellomy.

It's even in the article you linked to.

Just for you, since it's even in the one I linked to previously:

Quote from: Eurogamer
It seems Sony has given Lab Zero Games' work its blessing: the driver will be tested at an upcoming official PlayStation event in December. In fact Naughty Dog programmer John "Cowboy" Bellomy wrote the driver in his spare time.

Again: Thank Naughty Dog for having the sense to at least help people use their sticks beyond one console generation.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on April 22, 2015, 10:37:37 AM
So he made it...off the clock...for Lab Zero.   

:heyman
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on April 22, 2015, 10:42:26 AM
In any case, you're better off modding an old stick or buying a new one. Setting up a PS3 stick is obnoxious with the driver since you still need a dualshock connected and always on, and the controller and stick share inputs.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on April 22, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
So he made it...off the clock...for Lab Zero.   

:heyman

Correct. But Lab Zero didn't make it themselves. They were planning on doing it, but one of Naughty Dogs programmers did the leg work for them.

Lab Zero had nothing to do with the actual thing other than go "well we plan to fix this oversight by Sony."

In any case, you're better off modding an old stick or buying a new one. Setting up a PS3 stick is obnoxious with the driver since you still need a dualshock connected and always on, and the controller and stick share inputs.

Don't you still need the DS4 on for PS4 sticks anyway? Since it requires that stupid backlight on the controller being on or whatever?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on April 22, 2015, 09:29:26 PM
Not sure with ps4 sticks. Never used one. You don't need a ds4 on for the mkx pad.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 22, 2015, 12:02:54 PM
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/05/22/ultra-street-fighter-iv-hits-ps4-tuesday-new-enhancements-detailed/

Confirmed: They're using Lab Zero's drivers. Can use PS3 sticks.  :rejoice
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 26, 2015, 03:04:02 PM
Out today!  :hyper

Still not up yet!   :gloomy
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 26, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
It's up!

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/ultra-street-fighter-iv/cid=UP9012-CUSA01846_00-USF4DEV00104SCEA
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 26, 2015, 07:48:55 PM
My impressions:

- There's menu lag and it is absolutely unacceptable.  You get slowness and input lag in every menu, including the character select screen. 

+ Once the match gets going, the lag is gone, so this port is at least extremely playable once the fight starts.

+ The load times are better than the other console versions.

+ Plugged in a Mad Catz PS3 fightpad and it works perfectly.

- Something seems to be off about the sound.  At times the sound effects are too loud, and at others, the music drowns out the announcer. 

- The timing from when you win/lose the match and the win music starts playing is also off.

+ Looks nice overall at 1080P.

- Some of the menu items and in-game effects are noticeably lower-res.  The PC version looks better.

- I've been playing Ultra on PS3 and PC since it came out.  There were a few matches I had on the PS4 version that felt worse online than on either platform.  Fortunately most matches were good-great quality.

They need to fix the menus and sound issues stat and this will be an overall great port.  For now, though, I'd stick to playing this on other platforms.

Also for shits n' giggles, I tried playing this using Vita remote play.  It was actually OK offline, but worse than I would have thought online.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on May 27, 2015, 12:24:26 AM
This port....
 :oreilly :dayum :heh :neogaf

Guile has fucked sonic booms
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkm84zBl4ug
[close]

Howler monkeys
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvo6O_Jxb6M&feature=youtu.be
[close]

Juri breaks the entire game
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3_uTlgodXE
[close]

Dudley causes double background noise
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6RIWOyEUY0
[close]

Decapre's teleports are fucked, apparently default Sagat for online play is vanilla Sagat, fucked up damage properties for multiple characters. All this info if from the FGC Gaf thread.

And this is or was going to be the played version at EVO!
 :mollywater :mollywater :mollywater :mollywater
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on May 27, 2015, 12:46:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t37aduSSFNc#t=11

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They need to fix the menus and sound issues stat and this will be an overall great port

There is a ton of stuff fucked up besides visual/audio glitches.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 27, 2015, 09:24:46 AM
That Juri glitch :rofl

There is a ton of stuff fucked up besides visual/audio glitches.

Yeah, I posted that before a lot of shit was found.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on May 27, 2015, 11:01:35 AM
The Guile Sonic Booms.  :lol :lol :lol :rofl
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: demi on May 27, 2015, 11:26:51 AM
port it to ps4 they said

it'll be the best version they said

FFX
SF4
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 27, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
port it to ps4 they said

it'll be the best version they said

FFX
SF4

:stahp

What happened with FFX?  Edit: Ah (http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-on-ps4-looks-better-than-ever-but-has-major-problems-292113.phtml).
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on May 27, 2015, 01:32:08 PM
How do you mess up FFX's RNG systems when doing a port?  :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on May 27, 2015, 01:38:52 PM
Can't say I'm surprised. Other Ocean couldn't handle porting MK 1-3 on to consoles, of course they couldn't handle this.

At least Wizard said he'll move USF4 back to 360 for EVO if this shitshow doesn't get fixed.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 27, 2015, 02:11:35 PM
How do you mess up FFX's RNG systems when doing a port?  :lol

 :dizzy

This did lead me to find that Square Enix made a retail version of FFX-2 for Vita, in English, for Asian territories.  Did not know that.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on May 27, 2015, 02:31:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wxkyhNy6fY
 :huh

At least they nerfed Ultras and Evil Ryu with one stone.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: naff on May 27, 2015, 07:47:02 PM
Is the pc version all good? Missed out on the capcom sale the other week, but found a key site selling at the same discounted price, looking to sell off all my console stuff and go pc only.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: thisismyusername on May 28, 2015, 12:55:29 AM
Is the pc version all good?

If the netcode is fine with you: Yeah. It's hit and miss for some people, I dunno if they tweaked it more or not.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 28, 2015, 08:23:01 AM
The PC version's net code is pretty good now.  Read that it had something more to do with stuff done to Steam itself and not anything Capcom did, but regardless it's been playing pretty well for a few months now.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on May 30, 2015, 05:31:47 PM
(http://i.picpar.com/0cxb.png)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on May 30, 2015, 09:17:58 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 03, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
Patch is up.

(http://i.imgur.com/LQlsb7Fl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/djME1OOl.jpg)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 11, 2015, 03:05:47 PM
New patch is up:
(http://i.imgur.com/xd9kJ9Ll.jpg)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on June 11, 2015, 04:11:05 PM
https://twitter.com/DisplayLag/status/609064535631093760
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USF4 PS4 patch 1.03 is now live. Significantly reduced input lag. Stay tuned for our results later today!

 :aweshum
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 06, 2015, 03:35:45 PM
Updated again...I think it's pretty much fixed now.  AA too!

(http://i.imgur.com/JQnC4by.jpg)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2015, 07:24:21 PM
USFIV is on, and I'm training Chun. I will get good with this girl. I tried Poison and she's fun but seems limited. Shame because I wish I could main her based on principle.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on July 10, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
SF4 relied on the training mode's recording function for that sort of practice, which obviously necessitates outside research. The closest they came to the above was the challenge mode, but as the name suggests, that's more of an input olympics thing than it is proper training. Maybe they couldn't allocate any resources for that, who knows. Or they knew the community would pick up the slack, so they didn't bother.

Baseline SF4 is an excellent fighting game, but the negative quirks are pretty bad. Worse matchmaking system I've seen in any console game, the ping meter doesn't mean shit and it takes up to a minute to find a ranked match. Mainly because of getting disconnected by someone joining at the same time. The non ranked match options are sparse as fuck. I'd guess more resources went into adding characters than anything else.

A lot of people thought Dead or Alive 4 was meh, but it had the best and most robust room hosting for a fighter.

USFIV is on, and I'm training Chun. I will get good with this girl. I tried Poison and she's fun but seems limited. Shame because I wish I could main her based on principle.

A lot of people rank Poison well above Chun I recall.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: brob on July 10, 2015, 07:28:38 PM
worst part for me about SF4's matchmaking system is the choice between same country or all countries. It's very rare to find anyone on same region, so I have to use all and then it's real annoying trying to find someone who isn't half a world away and will lag like shit.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2015, 07:58:04 PM
Hugo scares me more than than in SF3 on hardest arcade mode :brazilcry Throw spam
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Kara on July 10, 2015, 08:11:54 PM
Grappling :phil

Oiling up, then grappling :phil :phil
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2015, 08:22:58 PM
Haven't played SFIV since 2012. I mean, when it's all said and done, between amount of hours played between all versions, how is SFIV (all versions) not top 5 best games last gen if not second best game of the generation after Mario Galaxy? :obama
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 10, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
mormapope did a great job of pretty much covering all the points I'd make.  Saved me a couple of paragraphs!   :lol

Playing against other human players is the best practice you can get.  Spend some time in training mode getting the basics down and then start trying stuff out.  That's how you get good.  It will take some time if you are just starting out.  You also don't need a massive move list in front of you because this is a 2D game...there's only a handful of moves per character to remember.  If you need something though, print something out or pull up an app/page on your phone.  That's what I do.  But sure, a better training mode is always welcome. 

The only old-school mentality I have, if you can even call it that, is that I like to just jump right in and start playing online when I get a new fighting game.  I might not check out strategies/tips online until weeks later, because I enjoy figuring out and discovering stuff for myself.  I also feel that if you take too much of what others say, you're just going to start aping their suggested play style...the same play style that all these other people have learned to play against.

Himu, I'll play you right now.  The PS3 version is not cross-play and is the worst version of the game, BTW, but don't let that stop you.  It's still very good and I played it almost non-stop after ditching my 360 a couple of years ago.  You won't notice the input timing/lag differences compared to the other versions.

USFIV is on, and I'm training Chun. I will get good with this girl. I tried Poison and she's fun but seems limited. Shame because I wish I could main her based on principle.

You should use who you like.  Poison is not limited at all and as pointed out, is generally considered to be one of the better characters in Ultra.  She has an amazing projectile game and you can get those multi-hit whip combos off of pokes pretty easily.

Skullgirls has an extremely good tutorial fwiw. I recommend checking it it out because a lot of it applies universally to 2D games.

Yup.  Great game, too!
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 10, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
Good session, Himu.  You wanted some advice, and this is what I noticed:

-Work on your defense game.  You should definitely spend some time getting familiar with how focus attacks work and work on blocking high and low.
-When you're up against a grappler like Zangief and using a smaller/faster character, RUN!!   :lol  Play keep-away.  Zone the fuck out the opponent with projectiles.  If Gief gets in close, that SPD has a vacuum effect and is going to grab you from a little further away than it might seem.  Don't try to do anything too complex up close; just punish and keep the grapplers out with well-placed normal attacks.  A lot of the dumber players can't beat Chun's jump straight up and HK.  You can do it all day and they're fucked.   :lol
-Speaking of pokes..poke!  It will take some learning/research but you'll find the best pokes to help get more complex stuff started.
-Street Fighter really isn't a combo-heavy game.  It's more about fundamentals/spacing/pokes/footsies/etc.  Don't worry too much about crazy combos and work on the basics first.
-I would recommend learning one or two combos/strategies at a time and then work on getting them off in various situations online.  It doesn't help if you memorize something but then can't actually get it to hit your opponent.  I encounter players like this far too often...too much time spent "in the lab" and not enough time actually playing people.
-Keep trying different characters.  You never know who you'll end up liking.
-If the charge characters aren't making sense to you, there's nothing wrong with just dropping them and using fb/dp characters instead.  Could be that charge moves just don't suit you.  I know that Justin Wong will not play Chun-Li in any game where her fireball is a charge because he hates that input for her projectiles.

I think you did the best with Ryu, but that could easily transfer over to Poison.  The best Poison players I've seen do a lot of zoning when far away (her projectiles are awesome; remember that the lp version goes the farthest) and then base a lot of her close-up game around her "whip rekkas" (the multi-hit qcb+p x3 movie)off of pokes.  You can easily hit it off of crouching MK, for example.

But it's pretty much just all about playing so you get familiar with characters and match-ups. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 10, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
I know how focus works but it's been three years  since I last played sfiv
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2015, 02:33:33 AM
OK so this is my first time playing arcade mode. It's on the hardest mode. I just got the game this week so I'm getting used to Poison. I lost but I figure it could be useful for learning and showing you guys so I can improve me. Want to be good by the time SFV comes out. Please note again, I haven't really played the game in three years. Be gentle. :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm3pIcgXK78

Here's a fight against Cody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElmTZe5QN3U

Critique me.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2015, 08:16:16 PM
Lyte, I recorded Chun's fierce kick move in training mode and I'm learning to block it and trying to counter it using Poison anti-air.

This is a good basic combo guide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24DbVBs2TNA
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 11, 2015, 09:14:33 PM
I haven't played SFIV in three years as well, and Himu's posts made me buy the upgrade. What sys are u on, sis?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2015, 09:14:57 PM
ps3
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 11, 2015, 09:20:43 PM
Sweet. Downloading the data right now.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
Come laugh at me losing in online Ranked matches. I'm embarrassed I lost to that C. Viper. In the second round I did a cr.HP anti-air but it didn't register. Just losing optimism because on Super I wasn't the best, but I still won matches and got to be a B/C ranking. Now I'm just losing one after the other. Hard to keep at it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2015, 01:42:11 AM
Well it's not perfect and I didn't win, but I think I did good in the first two rounds. I was pretty proud of the match even though I lost. I'm still having trouble comboing whip of love. DS3 is awful for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZajF-_quONg
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on July 12, 2015, 03:10:31 PM
Something that can't be overstated is how fucked online play is when it comes to input lag and frames. Playing at a friend's house who doesn't have the best internet meant getting 9 extra frames tacked onto any and all attacks.

Also, playing in endless instead of ranked will help you get back into the game much quicker. Ranked matches are bite sized experiences where you pit everything you know against someone else. A ton of small shit was changed from Arcade Edition to Ultra when it comes to frame data and such.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on July 12, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
Beat a 5th ranked in the world Dhalsim today. Was tied 1-1, and then I got a perfect in the final round.

 :jawalrus

Dude had 18000 bp as Dhalsim and around 4000 pp. Watching the replay he played like he knew Dhalsim, so it wasn't a empty victory against a friend.

And then I lost to a 1200 pp, 3000 bp new akuma account.

 :goty
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 13, 2015, 06:19:21 PM
So there's this REALLY good guide.

http://shoryuken.com/2014/07/07/learn-how-to-play-fighting-games-with-our-free-beginners-guide-ebook/

And one part of his experience is starting to mirror my own. LIke how he never thought about how fireballs and shoryukens compliment each other. I never thought about that until having to use Poison's fireball for range and not having a great anti-air like srk.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on July 13, 2015, 06:32:27 PM
I gave up on Poison specifically because I disliked Kissed by a Goddess so much.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 13, 2015, 06:41:26 PM
I like it. Not a good anti-air but standing MK and cr.HP is good. Kissed by a Goddess is good for reminding the other player that you have options when they're in your space, so I like it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 14, 2015, 06:54:57 PM
Okay so I got a win. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZpDgB8wSVo

Again, it's not perfect. I mess up. A lot. I wouldn't even say it's a good win, but it's a win.

I didn't dash like in the past, and I REALLY tried to get used to punishing anti-airs with Poison. I took everything I learned in the past day or so and tried to put it in these set of battles and I'm pleased to say I'm improving a lot when I don't fuck up things up due to my inepitude. I still jump in more than I should, and I still go for the occasional risky move, but what I'm concentrating on right now beyond bad habits is trying to learn how to punish players for their mistakes and anticipating their reactions. There's a few points in this match where I predict he's going to DP on wake - he does - but I footsy and end up giving away my advantage. Another thing I'm learning to do: conserve my gauge. I usually use it when I get it, but I'm learning to conserve it. Another thing I'm learning or trying to learn to do is to bait the player into coming into my space and use Poison's backflip to trick them into making a move and then moving back in with a normal. I didn't manage to pull it off in this match but the essentials are starting to get there. I'm starting to learn that cr.HP as an Anti-Air really requires specific timing and practice. I'm also starting to learn how to Hit Confirm and it's really not that bad. I like it.

After this match I'm assessing my strengths and weaknesses.

Strengths:

- I have no fucking clue.

Weaknesses:

- Still jump in too much
- Inconsistent offense and combos, but that's not a priority now
- Lack of mind games and traps
- Sometimes reel under pressure
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2015, 07:13:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJnbv2zFm2Y

That mother fucker.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hp7tHPJ.gif)

It was great practice for practicing throw techs, but still. What an absolute asshole. I'm not going to call him cheap, because that's a lame way to make excuses. But :argh
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 15, 2015, 07:24:26 PM
Himu...I don't want to want to laugh, but  :lol :lol :lol.  Sorry.   :-[  That dude was totally fucking with you.  Your replay doesn't have the inputs listed, so...what were you doing when he kept throwing you!?  Did you get psyched out?

You're still jumping around too much and you keep trying to use Kissed By A Goddess like it's Ryu or Ken's Dragon Punch.  It's not!!   :lol

Also, focus attacks-- you don't have to jump out of the way all the time, but maybe that was just mid-match panic.  You can throw people out of them, hit certain focus-breaking specials/EX specials, or hit the opponent with a quick combo (just a few jabs will do) to stop them. 

That player pretty much saw that you had no defensive game, backed you into the corner, and took advantage of it.  He sucked and the fact that you've only just started playing seriously and still got two rounds off him says something.  You're gonna get way better and stomp scrubs like this into the ground soon enough.   :)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
Yes I got fucking pissed. I resorted to back dashing and I was not thinking.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: mormapope on July 15, 2015, 07:55:14 PM
"There's no way they'll do that again!" strategy is the ultimate mind fuck.

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2015, 08:13:05 PM
Akuma and Akuma players ::)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: nachobro on July 15, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
If people focus you just use Whip of Love

e: or Love Me Tender. IIRC that breaks armor
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV - PS4 Release On 5/26 For $24.99
Post by: bork on July 16, 2015, 02:14:30 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/45760/

Ultra on PC is on sale for $10.66, or $5.00 to upgrade if you have Super.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/17566/?snr=1_550_552

It's also free to play this weekend!
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 02:23:30 PM
Bye bye ps3 version :hyper
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 16, 2015, 02:24:02 PM
Bye bye ps3 version :hyper

 :phil

You might want to keep it around as a "backup" if there's not enough people or a bunch of shitty connections on PC.  Happens every now and then. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 02:27:07 PM
Bye bye ps3 version :hyper

 :phil

You might want to keep it around as a "backup" if there's not enough people or a bunch of shitty connections on PC.  Happens every now and then.

The connections can't be worse than on ps3. :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 16, 2015, 02:28:26 PM
Bye bye ps3 version :hyper

 :phil

You might want to keep it around as a "backup" if there's not enough people or a bunch of shitty connections on PC.  Happens every now and then.

The connections can't be worse than on ps3. :lol

There's less players online.  Sometimes if you do same region-only searches, you won't get any results.  And all you get in all-region searches are Euro players with shitty connections.   :-\  This sale and the F2P weekend should boost it though.

People pretty much play fighting games on consoles.  At least Ultra HAS players...I was never able to play Street Fighter X Tekken online on PC.  Literally found one match the entire time I had installed, over the course of a year or so.  They didn't even bother to patch it to keep up with the console version.   :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
How long since you last played?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 16, 2015, 02:31:38 PM
How long since you last played?

On PC?  I play it fairly often.  Actually found a pretty large amount of players from Asia online when I was in Japan.  Definitely more than I've seen online here. 

But I don't want to make it sound like you'll never get a match.  Just expect to see less people online in general.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 16, 2015, 10:10:11 PM
Going to start maining Sagat. Dude does a lot more anti air damage compared to other shoto types, and I really dig his strong pokes over high damage combo shotos (Sagat can dish out a lot of damage in a combo pretty easily though). His first ultra is also really versatile when it comes to punishing ground & air stuff.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 17, 2015, 08:23:47 AM
What platform(s) do you play on and what's your user name?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 17, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
I only have the 360 version of Ultra, gamertag is deathpill00.

Sucks that I have the version that usually has the largest user population, but the people on forums I go to scrapped their 360s long ago  ???
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 17, 2015, 11:38:14 AM
Crap, that's the one platform I no longer play on.   :-\

A lot of people ditched XBL after SFV got announced for PS4/PC only.  PS4 is slowly becoming the go-to platform for fighters.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 17, 2015, 11:42:42 AM
Can PS4 fighters be played with a 360 arcade stick if the devs use specific firmware?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 17, 2015, 11:51:25 AM
Can PS4 fighters be played with a 360 arcade stick if the devs use specific firmware?

Not sure about the 360 stick adapter, but games like Skullgirls, USF4, and MKX can all use PS3 sticks/pads, yeah.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2015, 02:55:34 PM
Alright, after fiddling with USIV free weekend, I bought it with the vacation costume pack. :p Double dipping within a week, sign of a great game. :)

Tips:

1. Try to make steam friends with people who play USIV on Steam rather than fully relying on match making. You will often get better connection, you can have easily accessible chat, and it's much more fun.
2. Match making is ok, but don't fight people below maybe C, and bars REALLY matter in this game. On ps3, red bars was bearable. On pc it's unplayable.
3. Turn V-sync off; smoother performance.

This is one of the benefits of being a goon: active community on steam. Nice and helpful too.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:51:15 AM
Had a pretty :smug rank match tonight against a C+ Hugo on Steam. I'm ranked D. Watching EVO USFIV really showed me how the game is meant to be played so I got on and took what I learned. I think I did a solid job, though I did get cocky in the second round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NibMgGIxhBc


I am really proud of the last round, especially the last move. Tonight on the stream I saw some deliberate whiff pokes to bait and deal a bigger hit. I knew baiting was a risk with Hugo but since I got cocky in the second round he'd bite. He did. I ended with him a hk sweep. Felt good baiting and having my plan work.

I think I'm a good position in regards to the basics. I still don't fully get focus attacks, though. Or when to use them besides fireball evasion. Now that I'm comfortable with my character, and since I'm no longer playing on PS3, I think it's a good time to work on mastering some combos with Poison. Her cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.lk, st.mk, whip of love is much easier to do on steam for reason. Maybe I'm just imagining it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 20, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Going to start using a specific lineup of characters.

Blanka, Rolento, Balrog, Dee-Jay, Rose.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 01:39:45 PM
Okay Infiltration
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 01:49:08 PM
I already have my little 'stable' with Chun, Hugo, Rose, Cammy, and T. Hawk. (who I never use anymore 'cuz HUGO)  Was thinking of taking up Guile and maybe Sakura.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 20, 2015, 01:51:11 PM
My favorite style of play is doing annoying shit and tactics to phase the person I'm playing.

Blanka and Rolento can do that in spades. Dee-Jay having a hard knock down low medium kick allows for constant knockdown pokes, he has to played with a trollish mindset to win out in many matchups. Balrog is fun to play as in general, but I need more patience while playing as him. Rose has really good pokes and I like her moveset a lot.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 01:55:02 PM
My favorite style of play is doing annoying shit and tactics to phase the person I'm playing.

(http://legunaselitegamers.freeforums.org/images/smilies/108129279_.png)
:itagaki
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 02:02:24 PM
Right now I wanna work on my Poison. I've always liked Sakura. Juri is fun, Abel is fun but he's going to need a stick. Ryu is also a sub. Cammy is my former main, and i need to get back on her. I want to get good with a charge character but we don't know how many charge characters will be in SFV so it may be pointless?

Rose is really fun.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 02:03:37 PM
Abel is fun but he's going to need a stick.

Nah.

I want to get good with a charge character but we don't know how many charge characters will be in SFV so it may be pointless?

That's a weird reason not to keep practicing.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 20, 2015, 02:04:11 PM
I've also learned overtime that you have to find characters that are fun to play as even if you lose the match. If I lose as Blanka or Dee-Jay, I won't feel nearly as salty or mean spirited versus losing as Ryu, Ken, Zangief, ect.

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
Abel is fun but he's going to need a stick.

Nah.

I want to get good with a charge character but we don't know how many charge characters will be in SFV so it may be pointless?

That's a weird reason not to keep practicing.

Abel without a stick? iirc he's got a few spd's.

I'm not saying I'm going to keep practicing. :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 02:18:55 PM

Abel without a stick? iirc he's got a few spd's.


Nope, he doesn't.

...Not that it matters.  I play on a pad and can do standing SPDs no problem.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 02:19:43 PM
Maybe I'm thinking of someone else. Either way, he's fun.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Maybe I'm thinking of someone else. Either way, he's fun.

The SPD grapplers are Zangief, T. Hawk, and Hugo.  Abel's grabs are half-circles backwards.  Note that you can do the SPD motion by basically doing a half circle back, then hitting up quickly.  There's no need to do a full 360 motion unless it's two 360s for an ultra/super.  That goes for pretty much every fighting game.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Kara on July 20, 2015, 02:43:17 PM
I'd do SPDs with Abel out of muscle memory habit and it wasn't a problem on the shitty 360 pad.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Beezy on July 20, 2015, 02:59:55 PM
I haven't been able to do SPDs consistently in any fighter. :(

Watching this made me wanna start playing USF4 on my 360 again.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:17:34 PM
IIRC one of the best Zangief players, Snake-Eyes, uses a stock 360 controller.  Easily the worst controller for fighting games...I'd even use a Game Cube controller for Street Fighter over it.  And yet it doesn't matter.  You don't have to invest in a stick...just use what's the most comfortable for you.  You might even notice that some of the top players don't even use all the normals in these games...they'll map the buttons to other stuff instead.  Pad or stick, doesn't matter.

I'd do SPDs with Abel out of muscle memory habit and it wasn't a problem on the shitty 360 pad.

That's probably pretty easy since he doesn't have any SPDs.   :P

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:22:26 PM
Problem with pad is that I need to learn how to play piano style, and I don't think pad is optimal for that. Maybe when I get my Hori pad I'll think differently.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Problem with pad is that I need to learn how to play piano style, and I don't think pad is optimal for that. Maybe when I get my Hori pad I'll think differently.

You don't have to do that either.   :)  It's all your preference, but yeah, a Hori pad has six face buttons so it's no problem. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:29:44 PM
Still wish this had been Abel.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110725023800/streetfighter/images/3/37/Abel_girl.jpg)

Could have been a rival for Makoto.

I think vanilla SF4 had the weakest new character line-up of all of the games.  Fuerte is...lol, Rufus looks fucking stupid, Abel is good but doesn't really stand out (however, I think he looks exactly like a character who could have fit into the 1991 SFII, which is kind of cool), and while I like C. Viper's design (totally SNK, perhaps something that the EX-SNK staff who worked on the game snuck in?), I don't like her play style.  And then Seth is just dumb. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Rufus on July 20, 2015, 03:33:14 PM
Snake-Eyes uses a MadCatz Fightpad.

Also, you forgot Hakan <3. I played him almost exclusively before I quit. The trailer with its stupid music is all it took.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3oMkNvQrI
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:35:07 PM
Still wish this had been Abel.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110725023800/streetfighter/images/3/37/Abel_girl.jpg)

Could have been a rival for Makoto.

I think vanilla SF4 had the weakest new character line-up of all of the games.  Fuerte is...lol, Rufus looks fucking stupid, Abel is good but doesn't really stand out (however, I think he looks exactly like a character who could have fit into the 1991 SFII, which is kind of cool), and while I like C. Viper's design (totally SNK, perhaps something that the EX-SNK staff who worked on the game snuck in?), I don't like her play style.  And then Seth is just dumb.

omg that DESIGN :lawd
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:35:44 PM
Snake-Eyes uses a MadCatz Fightpad.

Maybe it was Vangief then?  I just remember somebody using it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:36:48 PM
I ought to take up Elena.  Trolling people with healing seems like it could be fun.  I used to use her in 3rd Strike but didn't really take to the SFxTK and Ultra versions, but Gamerbee was very inspiring last night.   :lol

Also, you forgot Hakan <3. I played him almost exclusively before I quit. The trailer with its stupid music is all it took.

Vanilla SF4, not Super.  Didn't mention Gouken because the design is from the 1990s.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:37:39 PM
Snake-Eyes uses a MadCatz Fightpad.

Also, you forgot Hakan <3. I played him almost exclusively before I quit. The trailer with its stupid music is all it took.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3oMkNvQrI

Hakan offends my sensibilities. A guy who oils himself up. just stupid, doesn't fit Street Fighter and should be thrown to the bushes. Dude is straight Guilty Gear for me. Which is fine in GG.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Hakan has a bizarre design, but I give the character props for that unique play style.  He also doesn't look dumb like Rufus.  Just...weird.  Namco got the fat guy brawler-type down with Bob.  And SNK did it too with Cheng Sinzan decades earlier.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:43:14 PM
Like, I'm fine with an turkish oil wrestler, but Hakan doesn't even look human.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Rufus on July 20, 2015, 03:43:25 PM
Snake-Eyes uses a MadCatz Fightpad.

Also, you forgot Hakan <3. I played him almost exclusively before I quit. The trailer with its stupid music is all it took.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3oMkNvQrI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3oMkNvQrI)

Hakan offends my sensibilities. A guy who oils himself up. just stupid, doesn't fit Street Fighter and should be thrown to the bushes. Dude is straight Guilty Gear for me. Which is fine in GG.

You deny the beauty of turkish oil wrestling? :bolo
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_sO2b4x7--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/ezoipo0f0hqxwyyeq0pc.gif)

edit: Nvm, you don't. Good! But yeah, I actually agree. Should have given him pupils at least.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:49:29 PM
They had the opportunity to make another dark-skinned fighter and opted to make a dude that looks like he belongs in Guilty Gear alien land. Just odd. I am very consistent when it comes to SF designs. I don't think SF designs should ever leave the venue of normal human people with fighting styles repping nations fighting each other. It's why I've never really liked Blanka. Everyone in SFII is normal. Stylized and anime-ish and having super powers, sure. But fairly normal and human. And then there's this green furball. :what I don't like Gill, Seth, or Hakan for similar reasons.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 03:55:59 PM
Like, I'm fine with an turkish oil wrestler, but Hakan doesn't even look human.

Yeah, I don't get that design choice either.   :lol

I am very consistent when it comes to SF designs. I don't think SF designs should ever leave the venue of normal human people with fighting styles repping nations fighting each other. It's why I've never really liked Blanka. Everyone in SFII is normal. Stylized and anime-ish and having super powers, sure. But fairly normal and human. And then there's this green furball. :what I don't like Gill, Seth, or Hakan for similar reasons.

Yeah, I agree.  Blanka was always the odd one out.  But SF3 had its share of 'freaks' too, like Oro, Q, Twelve, and Necro.  Oro always reminded me of a 100 year-old Homer Simpson.   :P

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:56:42 PM
That's why I'm generally not a fan of SFIII. Sad, but true. None of the characters appeal to me besides Ryu, Elena, Makoto, and Alex.  Just don't like SFIII despite being able to admit it's a fantastic game. :yeshrug
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 20, 2015, 03:57:56 PM
This is a series where people throw energy and literal fireballs  :lol

Keep the freaks coming, I like when Street Fighter has a mix of traditional MMA types and fucked up freakish dudes/chicks.

EDIT: Yun and Yang are the most boring designs in the series, along with having sorta boring playstyles. If there needs to be less of something, its those two.

Thankfully, SF5 looks like it has the perfect mix of normal and freaky.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
Naw. The freaks suck. Their designs tend to be oafish and pretty bad. Q is the best freak SF character design though, by a long gap. Doesn't matter if it's a series with fireballs to me. A lot of the characters use real world fighting styles, and then you've got some bizarre green carpet. Don't like it. SNK and Sega are more consistent in this area, and why back in the day when SF was going the route of SFIII with its odd shit, I stuck with Virtua Fighter and KOF instead.

I think that with fighting games there's a delicate balance.

Either you have a game where all of the characters besides maybe one, are normal albeit stylized and anime (Virtua Fighter, King of Fighters, Fatal Fury, SFII, Samurai Shodown), or you go all the way out and everyone is a freaky badass (darkstalkers, guilty gear)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Kara on July 20, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
I'd do SPDs with Abel out of muscle memory habit and it wasn't a problem on the shitty 360 pad.

That's probably pretty easy since he doesn't have any SPDs.   :P

Hence me saying, "out of muscle memory habit. . ."
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 04:39:02 PM
I have to say, this is probably my favorite stage in a fighting game. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UMj6QpE_f0

It's so hilarious and I love how each new round it changes to something even more ridiculous. :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 20, 2015, 04:42:41 PM
That stage bums me out because eventually you see Haggar in the background. Really wanted Haggar to be added to SFIV.

Haggar should be in SFV instead of Gief.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: thisismyusername on July 20, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
You deny the beauty of turkish oil wrestling? :bolo
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_sO2b4x7--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/ezoipo0f0hqxwyyeq0pc.gif)

I'm sorry, what were we talking about in here?

I think vanilla SF4 had the weakest new character line-up of all of the games.

Gotta agree with this. Though SF5 seems like it's going to fix that with that new character yesterday.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
That's why I'm generally not a fan of SFIII. Sad, but true. None of the characters appeal to me besides Ryu, Elena, Makoto, and Alex.  Just don't like SFIII despite being able to admit it's a fantastic game. :yeshrug

I was so incredibly hyped for Street Fighter III.  I would play it in arcades whenever I could.  I loved the visuals.  I loved the music so much I bought soundtracks.  I even bought a CPS-3 so I could play 2nd Impact.  I actually didn't go as nuts for 3rd Strike like a lot of people did, despite them adding back my favorite SF2 character, Chun-Li. 

But you know what?  I never did get into the game play.  Was never a fan of the game's take on parries.  I never settled on a main character, either.  Hugo and Elena were my two most-used characters.  I never used Chun in that game because I found her play style kind of boring, especially compared to the Alpha games. 

I like Street Fighter IV so much more than III.  I got into it so much more and put in so many hours in the game that I probably eclipsed all the play time I ever spent with all three SF3 games within a month.  Give me IV or Alpha 3 over 3rd Strike any day.

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And give me KOF '98 over them all.  Real Bout 2, The Last Blade 1 and 2, and Samurai Shodown IV too.  Because that's what I was playing back then.  SNK mutha fuckaz.  :rock
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Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 10:39:54 PM
real talk, I was an Alpha fan back then. SFIII just isn't that game for me. Alpha 3 :lawd I too enjoy 4 more than 3.

Man, SFV would be so hype with ISMs back combined with the V system.

And yes, KOF 98 :rock
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 20, 2015, 11:15:17 PM
Real talk, 1998 was the biggest year for fighting games for me.  KOF '98, Alpha 3, Real Bout Special Dominated Mind, Real Bout 2, Virtua Fighter 3 at home (imported) and others kept me glued to fighting games for the majority of the year.  I also got Waku Waku 7 and Kizuna Encounter that year on the Neo-Geo and played the crap out of them the entire summer. 

Alpha was my game.  More specifically, Alpha 2 and Alpha 3 were where I "peaked" in Street Fighter.  I was in high school and had plenty of time to play, plus plenty of people to play with.  Never did enter any tournaments but I was able to beat virtually anyone that I played or go toe-to-toe with them in the area.  In fact, when Alpha 3 first came out in arcades, I drove out to go play it for the first time, beat everyone there, then proceeded to destroy the CPU without losing rounds until I got to Balrog (hidden boss) and finally lost.  And I did this...

...with Dan.   :lol

I was pretty full of myself until I went to Japan for the first time and got my ass kicked up and down by some insane V-ism players in Alpha 3.  I have no doubt that if I somehow had gone out to Cali to play Alpha 2 in those days, I also would have gotten quite the reality check. 

Anyway, after playing Alpha 3 in the arcades, I kind of didn't care, shrugged the game off, and went back to the Neo-Geo.  It was when Zero 3 hit home later that year that I got addicted to it and played the crap out of it for several years.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 11:27:44 PM
Put Alpha 3 and Super Street Fighter II Turbo on Steam. Don't care about III but that community should get support too.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 11:31:56 PM
Also bring back ISMs :rock
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: thisismyusername on July 21, 2015, 12:23:31 AM
ISM's are hard to balance. You're going to get V-ism (er-"V-ACT") and you'll like it.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 01:04:54 AM
KOF 2000 :aah
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: thisismyusername on July 21, 2015, 01:20:07 AM
KOF 2002 :aah

Fixed that for you. <3
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 01:41:58 AM
2002 :lawd
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 21, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
The correct answer is:

'98 Ultimate Match
:lawd

2002 Unlimited Match
:lawd
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 11:22:47 AM
I'll tolerate spaghetti and meatballs picks like 98 but please don't sully me with Eolith or SNK Pachinko stuff.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 21, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
I'll tolerate spaghetti and meatballs picks like 98 but please don't sully me with Eolith or SNK Pachinko stuff.

2002 Unlimited Match is like an SNK-fixed version of 2002, which was already awesome anyway.  Hate away on 2001, not 2002.

And "tolerate" '98?  THE FUCK? 

OUT.

GIT OUT.

MUH THREAD.

YUH VARMINT.

:punch
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Beat a 1000 rank Juri earlier this morning. He didn't get a single win in. More than that, it was a Replay match and the replay was uploaded. Pretty good achievement, not that it matters.

Is the player skill level lower on Steam, because I'm winning way more on Steam than on PS3. Or am I getting better that much faster? I haven't lost a rank match in a while.

I'm now the in the 5000 rank for Poison on Steam. I want to get in the top 1000 ultimately.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 01:06:31 PM
I'll tolerate spaghetti and meatballs picks like 98 but please don't sully me with Eolith or SNK Pachinko stuff.

2002 Unlimited Match is like an SNK-fixed version of 2002, which was already awesome anyway.  Hate away on 2001, not 2002.

And "tolerate" '98?  THE FUCK? 

OUT.

GIT OUT.

MUH THREAD.

YUH VARMINT.

:punch

This is for... Creepy Stalker.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZJfZzOI.jpg)
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 21, 2015, 01:30:54 PM
Beat a 1000 rank Juri earlier this morning. He didn't get a single win in. More than that, it was a Replay match and the replay was uploaded. Pretty good achievement, not that it matters.

Is the player skill level lower on Steam, because I'm winning way more on Steam than on PS3. Or am I getting better that much faster? I haven't lost a rank match in a while.

I'm now the in the 5000 rank for Poison on Steam. I want to get in the top 1000 ultimately.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but is that 1000 PP or 1000 BP?  Because the BP points don't matter as much.  1000 PP is also kind of low but still, good on you for beating his ass. 
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 01:43:05 PM
Beat a 1000 rank Juri earlier this morning. He didn't get a single win in. More than that, it was a Replay match and the replay was uploaded. Pretty good achievement, not that it matters.

Is the player skill level lower on Steam, because I'm winning way more on Steam than on PS3. Or am I getting better that much faster? I haven't lost a rank match in a while.

I'm now the in the 5000 rank for Poison on Steam. I want to get in the top 1000 ultimately.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but is that 1000 PP or 1000 BP?  Because the BP points don't matter as much.  1000 PP is also kind of low but still, good on you for beating his ass.

BP

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 01:45:14 PM
Here's the replay, can you critique it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFs9VPGOTFE
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 21, 2015, 01:52:22 PM
I see a definite improvement over last week for sure.  No more random jump-ins and Kissed By A Goddess.    :)

You need to work on hitting those Whip Of Love attacks more.  You missed several opportunities to hit and it looks like you also are having some issues getting out all three hits.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2015, 01:53:37 PM
I'm hit confirming when they block the rekka, but there is definitely one point where I struggle getting all three hits. If they block the first hit, I don't do it again for fear of putting myself in a bad position.

The Goons you and I played with are gonna have an endless room tonight. Feel free to join us.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2015, 01:54:04 PM
I'll tolerate spaghetti and meatballs picks like 98 but please don't sully me with Eolith or SNK Pachinko stuff.

2002 Unlimited Match is like an SNK-fixed version of 2002, which was already awesome anyway.  Hate away on 2001, not 2002.

And "tolerate" '98?  THE FUCK? 

OUT.

GIT OUT.

MUH THREAD.

YUH VARMINT.

:punch

This is for... Creepy Stalker.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZJfZzOI.jpg)

Creepy Stalker is one person that never betrayed your trust.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 08:28:25 PM
No, but I let him down in the end. :'(
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 28, 2015, 11:41:57 PM
The salt people have when you beat them as Dee-Jay  :itagaki
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 29, 2015, 12:29:30 AM
JUST BEAT LOWTIERGOD AS BLANKA

Dude booted me from the endless lobby, dude was quiet and mad as fuck.

 :sabu :sabu :sabu
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2015, 12:31:59 AM
Lyte, when you get on Steam next? Been learning Guile and Juri :obama
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 29, 2015, 12:40:15 AM
Guile has a really good moveset and is the most versatile charge character, but I could never get in the right mindset while playing as him. Juri does a high amount of damage with her specials, don't really know much about her though and how she should be played.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2015, 12:41:39 AM
His normals are amazing but it's really tough playing charge against a grappler. Still, it's good practice because I eventually want to move on to Chun.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: thisismyusername on July 29, 2015, 12:55:45 AM
I tried Juri back in the super days but couldn't wrap my mind around her Ultra(s). What does Feng Shui Engine even do?
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 29, 2015, 12:59:58 AM
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV/Juri/Feng_Shui_Engine

Damn, the first paragraph makes this ultra sound daunting. Sounds like all normals chain together if you move up from light attacks to medium attacks and so on. You can also juggle the opponent.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: thisismyusername on July 29, 2015, 01:04:19 AM
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV/Juri/Feng_Shui_Engine

Damn, the first paragraph makes this ultra sound daunting. Sounds like all normals chain together if you move up from light attacks to medium attacks and so on. You can also juggle the opponent.

Looking at that, you're right in that LK->LP->MK->MP->HK->HP will work, but the heavies (2HK or 5HP) will crumple or stop the chain. Also 6MK will chain but not chain out/into something, so it's basically like the Heavies.

It also stops super meter gain, which means you can do a few EX moves (or blow it on FADC/Super) but can't gain the meter until the timer is over.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2015, 01:06:50 AM
feng shui engine sounds like certain characters v-skill

she should be fun in sfv
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: nachobro on July 29, 2015, 01:15:50 AM
FSE is fun once you get the hang of it, chain combos so gdlk. The hardest part is actually getting to use it. Activating after a throw or hard knockdown is basically your best chance.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 29, 2015, 08:29:14 AM
JUST BEAT LOWTIERGOD AS BLANKA

Dude booted me from the endless lobby, dude was quiet and mad as fuck.

 :sabu :sabu :sabu

:rofl

LOW TIER FRAUD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MHBq5Ft-Bo

Lyte, when you get on Steam next? Been learning Guile and Juri :obama

Been on PS4 the last few days.  Will get on Steam if I can tear myself away from Basara 4 Sumeragi DA GOAT.
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: mormapope on July 29, 2015, 09:07:57 AM
http://www.twitch.tv/lowti3rgod/v/8913167

10:50 onwards is when I fought him. I actually felt bad for beating him while watching the footage, he seemed really embarrassed that he lost to me.

As Blanka I use his light specials for footsies and spacing, dude could not grasp that concept, or he doesn't know matchups against Blanka whatsoever. In the last match I did spam electricity when he dropped combos, but the dude shouldn't be dropping shit in the first place.         

Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 29, 2015, 10:09:20 AM
I like that you immediately get his life down and he starts up with "got somebody else who has no idea what the fuck they're doing.  Wasting my fucking time."  Stay free and salty, Low Tier Fraud.   :lol

"What the fuck is this person doing, man?"  He's kicking your ass. 
:ufup
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: bork on July 29, 2015, 10:45:45 AM
So he loses...sits there in silence...then kicks you and exits the room?   "I'm gonna make a new room for people over 2K"?  What a fuckin' scrub! :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2015, 10:47:43 AM
Ahahaah
Title: Re: ULTRA Street Fighter IV
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2015, 01:48:35 AM
Updating my progress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dvq5iImboA

Match with a friend. Chun isn't his main but he can still use her well. I think I need to work on my combos more. I also feel like I'm not taking advantage of my Ultra when I should be. I dunno. I'm at a point where I'm very often close to winning matches but end up losing them. I think I've improved with my pokes as well as mindlessly flailing. For the most part, if I understand the character, I tend to have a general gameplay too. But it's not enough. I need to practice my combos so I can get some W's.