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Title: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 20, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
We bought a deep fryer today. I don't eat a ton of fried foods, but I love some chicken wings. I like mine "naked" (no breading). For those of you who do up your own wings, what's the optimum temp/time for cooking up batches of 6? I did 10 mins at 375, but I think I may have overcooked them a bit. Also want to make my own fries and onion rings, because fuck cooking fries and onion rings in the oven. Any good recipes, tips, etc for deep frying?
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: huckleberry on July 20, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
10 minutes is too long but 375 is the right temp. We set a timer for 6 and then base it on color past that.  Might be a good idea to test the temperature of your deep fryer too - most of the ones I have seen have terrible internal thermometers.


As for fries - just cut the potatoes and then wash the starch off. Then soak them in water to help pull out more of the starch (this will help make them crispier). Just make sure they are patted dry before deep frying. Fry to a golden brown and season immediately.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Mupepe on July 20, 2013, 11:16:12 PM
I do wingettes/baby wings for 6 minutes at 375 and the large wings for 8 minutes at 375.

fries I do for 5 minutes at 375 with the above advice but I also like to soak mine in ice water to get them really cold. I've found that helps with getting a crispy texture
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 20, 2013, 11:19:14 PM
Thanks for the fries tips, mine never got golden. Yeah, I was reading all kinds of times for wings, anywhere from 8-15 minutes, so I split the difference. I think 7-8 mins is probably optimum for the fryer we bought.

We decided to do a fried food blowout tonight, so we made chicken wings, beer-battered onion straws, shoestring fries, and sweet battered banana pieces. Wings were a bit overcooked, but the skin was crispy. I thought the onion straws were too greasy, so next time I'm going with a traditional cornmeal batter. Fries came out okay, but I never got the brown I was looking for, so I'll follow both of your advice next time. Bananas sprinkled with powdered sugar were fuck awesome.

All that fried shit made me lightheaded, though, so it's gonna be a once a week thing from now on :lol

Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Mupepe on July 20, 2013, 11:27:52 PM
Now that I'm carb back loading I do fries 5 nights a week :drool

to be honest, if you can find a decent brand of frozen fries (I buy mine from trader Joes) the difference between them is minimal. The frozen are just a lot less of a hassle. Fresh is of course better, its just not worth it to me when you factor in time.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: huckleberry on July 20, 2013, 11:30:43 PM
malt vinegar + home cooked french fries   :hyper
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 20, 2013, 11:54:30 PM
NSA surveillance of Eel cooking tonight

(http://www.bakinbit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/cornballs4.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 21, 2013, 12:52:12 AM
Have you tried double frying the fries?
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 21, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
DUDE.  Do fish and chips next!
(http://www.roadfood.com/photos/6933.jpg)

Or any whole fish.  Like fry it till the bones are crispy enough to eat (like a chip).  Any flat fish or small fish works well.
(http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/images/20110321-nasty-bits-fish-bones-fried-primary.jpg)
(http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/tgw4ur7zOiblToAzEYjqhg/l.jpg)
(http://www.bonappetit.com/images/magazine/2012/08/fried-smelts-646.jpg)
(http://www.monahansseafood.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/fried-smelt.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 21, 2013, 01:49:45 AM
HOLY CRAP.  You know what else you should do?  Filipino food: lechon kawali (pork belly), crispy fried pata (pig knuckles), lumpia (I'm not a huge fan but white people love the stuff)...etc.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m08lkpuLoP1qa05gjo1_500.jpg)
(http://ngkhai.net/lakwatsav2/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Crispy-Pata480x360.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 21, 2013, 01:55:54 AM
And then make BEIGNETS.
(http://www.myshipleydonuts.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/webassets/beignets.jpg)
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: parallax on July 21, 2013, 02:02:23 AM
DUDE.  Do fish and chips next!
Or any whole fish.  Like fry it till the bones are crispy enough to eat (like a chip).  Any flat fish or small fish works well.
(http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/images/20110321-nasty-bits-fish-bones-fried-primary.jpg)

damn, that makes me want some fried sandabs.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 21, 2013, 02:03:08 AM
AND if you're adventurous, deep fried pig intestines are seriously one of my favorite foods in the world.
(http://the-singapore-guide.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Deep-fried-pigs-intestines.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/2125788220_a90673b896.jpg)

LOVE deep fried tofu straight out of the oil.  It burns but it's so goooood...
(http://www.wickedfood.co.za/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/deep-fried-tofu.jpg)
Especially with some chili sauce.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Positive Touch on July 21, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
DAMMIT crystal, youre making me look into deep fryers when i am way to broke to get one right now. plus its not even 9 yet and im craving some delicious cruncy meat fuuuuuuuu :drool :noah :drool
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: tehjaybo on July 21, 2013, 10:47:02 AM
If you don't have a deep fryer, you can just use a deep pot and pour in oil.  That's what we do.  Throw in some battered chicken, whip up a packet of General Tso's sauce mix, add rice and :drool

Also, get some of those pre-cooked meatballs from the freezer section and thaw, batter, and deep fry.   :drool :drool :drool
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Positive Touch on July 21, 2013, 10:53:43 AM
wait do you just put a little oil in? or do you need enough to submerge the meat in?
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 21, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
i think i'll try some of that filipino food
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 21, 2013, 11:17:59 AM
Have you tried double frying the fries?

i read about that, will try it next time

i also read double frying wings helps lock in the moisture
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Barry Egan on July 21, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
those pig intestines look unreal...gotta find some place in the city that will serve me a batch.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: parallax on July 21, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
those pig intestines look unreal...gotta find some place in the city that will serve me a batch.

cant fuck with pig intestines. chitlins smell has ruined that.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 22, 2013, 12:58:08 AM
those pig intestines look unreal...gotta find some place in the city that will serve me a batch.

Which city?


cant fuck with pig intestines. chitlins smell has ruined that.

Overall my experiences with pig intestines fried Chinese style have not been nearly as stinky as American style braised(?) chitlins.  Also depends on how well they clean it obviously.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 22, 2013, 01:18:02 AM
If you don't have a deep fryer, you can just use a deep pot and pour in oil.  That's what we do.  Throw in some battered chicken, whip up a packet of General Tso's sauce mix, add rice and :drool

Also, get some of those pre-cooked meatballs from the freezer section and thaw, batter, and deep fry.   :drool :drool :drool

I usually use a wok - it saves a lot of oil and take less time to heat up due to the shape.  It's a pretty great multi-purpose cooking vessel.
(http://www.marketmanila.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/122.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Barry Egan on July 22, 2013, 01:48:57 AM
those pig intestines look unreal...gotta find some place in the city that will serve me a batch.

Which city?

NYC
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Brehvolution on July 22, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
We used to have one. It was called a Fry Daddy. We would have Fry Daddy Fridays where we would raid the frozen food section for wings, onion rings, breaded mushrooms, fries, etc...

Plantain chips are excellent. Buy a plantain and slice it up. Looks like a banana but tastes almost like a potato.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Mupepe on July 22, 2013, 09:37:39 AM
Let the plantain age until it starts to turn brown/black and then pan fry long slices of it.  Put some powdered sugar on it too.  Delicious!  The older they get, the sweeter they get.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 23, 2013, 10:57:29 PM
those pig intestines look unreal...gotta find some place in the city that will serve me a batch.

Which city?

NYC

Oh....  Sorry I can't help you.  :-\
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 27, 2013, 01:16:20 AM
made these krispy kreme knockoffs tonight

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/krispyknockoffs_zps04315ccd.jpg)

i'm going to die
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: brawndolicious on July 27, 2013, 01:36:37 AM
oh m'lawd, you have to eat them all before they get stale too.

BTW, does filipino food taste a lot like cajun? It looks pretty similar.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on July 27, 2013, 04:27:18 AM
BTW, does filipino food taste a lot like cajun? It looks pretty similar.

Seriously not AT ALL - see below for reference pics.  Not a whole lot of strong seasonings or hot spice like with cajun food.  Santa Cruz is a horrible place to get "ethnic" food but if you're ever in the East Bay I really like Dampa in Castro Valley.

Bulalo (beef marrow soup)
(http://flixfry.com/recipes/images/bulalo.jpg)

Buttered Garlic Shrimp
(http://s3-media1.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4-3nu9zzBi75MYOS0YB_0w/l.jpg)

Ginataang Hipon (shrimp and eggplant in coconut milk)
(http://s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/ETFuMzhdW3CUs7HvmnqwhQ/l.jpg)

Different types of grilled/steamed fish, etc, etc:
(http://s3-media1.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/WTpW-HeerVbdkgWB3HAr9g/l.jpg)
(http://s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/--uZFA0RPOfFS4uM92ADjQ/l.jpg)
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: etiolate on July 27, 2013, 04:51:09 AM
RE BANNANERS: I don't deep fry my bananas/plantains, but I fry them in a mix of bourbon. white wine and butter, then toss some thai chili peppers in.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 31, 2013, 09:17:44 PM
Tonight we did chicken wings again, and I tried the double-fry method. PERFECT. Fry all your wings the first time for 8 minutes at 250. This poaches the meat and breaks down the fat in the skin. Drain and let them rest on some paper towels. Bring your oil back up to 375-400 (our fryer only goes up to 375).  When the oil is hot enough, fry each batch again for 2-4 minutes until skin is golden brown, then toss in your sauce. Crispy skin, moist and tender inside.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 31, 2013, 09:46:58 PM
huh huh... you said "moist"
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Mupepe on August 01, 2013, 09:55:13 AM
I did fries again last night.  I grabbed a bag from Trader Joe's.  4 minutes at 375 made perfect fucking fries.  crispy as fuck outside and soft as hell inside.  Even after sitting out for 30-40 minutes it was able to maintain that.  Loved it.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Steve Contra on August 01, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
Fish and chips is always one of things I order and then 2 minutes in I think "why the fuck did I order this shit, fish and chips are terrible".  It's the absolute nadir of cuisine, taking good fish and frying it and pairing it with other greasy shit.  I've done it like 10 times now. :'(
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Steve Contra on August 01, 2013, 03:23:41 PM
Nope, they're terrible.  Shit pub food for unrepentant fatties.  It's one of the reasons British food has the stereotype of being so terrible.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Mupepe on August 01, 2013, 03:26:51 PM
yeah.  burgers and chips is where it's at.  Uncultured swine.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 01, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Fish and chips is always one of things I order and then 2 minutes in I think "why the fuck did I order this shit, fish and chips are terrible".  It's the absolute nadir of cuisine, taking good fish and frying it and pairing it with other greasy shit.  I've done it like 10 times now. :'(

but the tartar sauce :lawd
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: chronovore on August 02, 2013, 07:47:39 AM
Fish and chips is always one of things I order and then 2 minutes in I think "why the fuck did I order this shit, fish and chips are terrible".  It's the absolute nadir of cuisine, taking good fish and frying it and pairing it with other greasy shit.  I've done it like 10 times now. :'(

but the tartar sauce :lawd

No, fish n chips are malt vinegar, not tartar sauce.

Heathen.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 02, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
Eschaton knows what's up
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Positive Touch on August 03, 2013, 03:18:13 PM
stop trying to do it at home and just to to long john silvers. thats the real deal. make sure you get the one with the fish AND the chicken too
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 03, 2013, 03:20:09 PM
Eschaton knows what's up
drizzle the malt vinegar on lightly, dip in tartar. Is there some other way of doing this?

It depends really. If you get your fish and chips from the local chipper how baby jesus intended then you will only get vinegar.

If you eat fish and chips in a restaurant you might get tartar sauce.
Title: Re: Chicken Wings and Deep Frying
Post by: CrystalGemini on August 04, 2013, 01:35:27 AM
Can't believe I just thought of this: deep fried fish roe.  I usually make it pan fried but I bet deep fried would be awesome too!
(http://www.ahbing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/deepfriedfishroe.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uGw9A4JPIOs/TwW-9IV55HI/AAAAAAAAEao/yClgg9yq2Ks/s400/DSC07172.jpg)