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Title: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 03:34:55 PM
Throw them horns up, my tits are bouncing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384

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Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 03:35:26 PM
it's ok.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 03:36:18 PM
did you get better at mega man
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Post by: Human Snorenado on August 02, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
Beginning of the end for this band, when they went from being an actual awesome metal band to the sad caricature they are today.

Compare THIS

http://youtu.be/K_eGXPzSzAg

To anything from Black Album forward and tell me I'm wrong.

:piss Black Album :piss2
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 03:46:24 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
:dead
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Post by: Steve Contra on August 02, 2013, 03:52:00 PM
The thing is this argument comes up all the time, and I can't even be bothered to listen to anything from The Black Album to support any claim I might make.  No one cares anymore.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Steve Contra on August 02, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
so nice to see you acknowledge (http://i.imgur.com/8Vd2G.png) (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/dj2.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk


:whew:
The Big Beat :noah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVSPXVaEVE
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 03:54:33 PM
The thing about black album (Metallica :teehee) is that many of the songs are so famous that I was familiar with all the songs before i ever listened to it, so I was totally fine with it because I liked those songs.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2013, 03:54:54 PM
It's hard to deny it's a good album, even if you prefer the previous four (which I certainly do). Lots of great riffs, great solos, and it actually has some bass unlike the previous album.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: milchs evil twin on August 02, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Beginning of the end for this band, when they went from being an actual awesome metal band to the sad caricature they are today.

Compare THIS

http://youtu.be/K_eGXPzSzAg

To anything from Black Album forward and tell me I'm wrong.

:piss Black Album :piss2

For Whom The Bell Tolls is probably my favorite Metallica track, but you will NEVER convince me that Sad But True isn't still god tier.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Steve Contra on August 02, 2013, 04:06:51 PM
Also those cheesy METAL album covers before the black album  :lawd
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Post by: Brehvolution on August 02, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
The Black album was the transition from Heavy Metal(:rock) to commercial metal( :gurl). Before TBA, you wouldn't see or hear of Metallica outside of Headbangers Ball. TBA was made to be radio friendly.
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Post by: Brehvolution on August 02, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Nothing else matters  :heh  :paul
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: archnemesis on August 02, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
Yeah, I think this is the first time I agree with Creepy Old Guy on anything. The Black Album is weak compared to their earlier works, especially Ride the Lightning.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
Ride the Lightning is deffo best Metallica album.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Rufus on August 02, 2013, 04:28:45 PM
Naw, that's Master of Puppets.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Brehvolution on August 02, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
Master OF Puppets may be one of the heaviest of all time. Leper Messiah and The Thing that should not be?  :lawd
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
A problem I hate with earlier Metallica is that a lot of the songs are aimless. Like I'm listening to the song Justice For All now and I just want to go to sleep. I prefer melodic Metallica (From Whom The Bell Tolls, Fade To Black, Trapped Under Ice) rather than the let's just play a bunch of random guitar riffs Metallica. Then again, that's a big problem I have with metal in general, lack of song structure in many bands' music. If I want to listen to lack of structure I stick to jazz. So in that way, I welcome commercial metal. I see nothing wrong with commercial metal at all. It sounds good.
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Post by: Diunx on August 02, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
Modern Metallica is what happens when people stop drinking.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 05:04:20 PM
One :rock
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Post by: Polari on August 02, 2013, 05:06:41 PM
No.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: milchs evil twin on August 02, 2013, 05:20:11 PM
AJFA has the best songs. It's one of the very few albums where I'd really love a remaster, though.

Dyer's Eve :rock :rock :rock Harvester of Sorrow :rock :rock :rock The Shortest Straw :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: headwalk on August 02, 2013, 05:21:26 PM
the black album is what happens when thrash has a mortgage to pay.

also, this thread should be flagged as having death magnetic content for anyone whose speakers have a short warranty.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2013, 05:24:17 PM
Judas Kiss sounds like classic Metallica. It's the only Metallica track that has legitimately blown me away in...decades
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2013, 05:27:44 PM
A problem I hate with earlier Metallica is that a lot of the songs are aimless. Like I'm listening to the song Justice For All now and I just want to go to sleep. I prefer melodic Metallica (From Whom The Bell Tolls, Fade To Black, Trapped Under Ice) rather than the let's just play a bunch of random guitar riffs Metallica. Then again, that's a big problem I have with metal in general, lack of song structure in many bands' music. If I want to listen to lack of structure I stick to jazz. So in that way, I welcome commercial metal. I see nothing wrong with commercial metal at all. It sounds good.

what?
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: milchs evil twin on August 02, 2013, 05:34:36 PM
To Live is to Die is pretty fucking amazing in the middle section.

Orion > Call of Ktulu > To Live is to Die > Suicide & Redemption > most bands' best instrumental.

Exactly.

A problem I hate with earlier Metallica is that a lot of the songs are aimless. Like I'm listening to the song Justice For All now and I just want to go to sleep. I prefer melodic Metallica (From Whom The Bell Tolls, Fade To Black, Trapped Under Ice) rather than the let's just play a bunch of random guitar riffs Metallica. Then again, that's a big problem I have with metal in general, lack of song structure in many bands' music. If I want to listen to lack of structure I stick to jazz. So in that way, I welcome commercial metal. I see nothing wrong with commercial metal at all. It sounds good.

Huh. That's exactly the reason why I didn't enjoy Death Magnetic, it tried to emulate old Metallica without the sense for song structures that work even though they're complicated. Old Metallica were Gods in that regard. Even though AJFA is pushing it, it's the only song on the first 5 albums where I could maybe see where you're coming from.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
A black m2f transsexual discussing the merits of early 80's Metallica.

Only on The Bore
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
put on Death Magnetic, I forgot about a lot of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYoDLxF_OZ8
:rejoice
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
And Justice For All > Ride the Lightning > Kill em All > Master of Puppets > S&M > Death Magnetic > Black Album
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2013, 05:38:59 PM
James Hetfield needs to ditch Metallica. He's shown that he's still capable of great riffs and songwriting. I can't help but feel like Lars is weighing him down. A quick google of Hetfield's music taste recently shows that he loves some really great metal. Then again, thrash and all that is a young man's game.

If there's anyone who needs to do a one shot/album collab with Dave Grohl, it's James Hetfield.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:39:02 PM
Megadeth > Anthrax > Pantera > Metallica
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
Slayer is thrash for 12 year olds.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:42:13 PM
Judas Priest > all of them
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
Metallica>Megadeth>Pantera>Slayer>>>>>>Anthrax

although I don't think any of those bands have released a better album this decade than Anthrax's We've Come for You All from 2003.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mpt8xyZVI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCfWn5TQkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXUutpELRA
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: headwalk on August 02, 2013, 05:45:19 PM
James Hetfield needs to ditch Metallica. He's shown that he's still capable of great riffs and songwriting. I can't help but feel like Lars is weighing him down. A quick google of Hetfield's music taste recently shows that he loves some really great metal. Then again, thrash and all that is a young man's game.

If there's anyone who needs to do a one shot/album collab with Dave Grohl, it's James Hetfield.

yeah, who wouldn't want another collab after the greatness of lulu.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
Metallica>Megadeth>Pantera>Slayer>>>>>>Anthrax

although I don't think any of those bands have released a better album this decade than Anthrax's We've Come for You All from 2003.

1 - that was last decade
2 - Worship Music is the best Anthrax album in like well over 20 years and better than anything Metallica has put out since the 80's
3 - Megath's album Endgame is the best thrash album from the big four since the 80's
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: headwalk on August 02, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mpt8xyZVI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCfWn5TQkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXUutpELRA

now we're cooking. my only issue is that rhinestone daddy early 80s priest has nothing on late 80s all out electrosexual priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwuxoSHsSo
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:49:30 PM
bout to throw some real talk tho

Iced Earth > *
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:52:09 PM
While all these dinosaurs were dragging their feet in the 90's Schaffer and crew were redefining a genre.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 05:52:22 PM
I definitely like Megadeth and Judas Priest more than Metallica.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmdwrCD-O0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H6qp7TFZl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOZD_9wDjLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeAfqI9OGOY
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Post by: milchs evil twin on August 02, 2013, 05:55:13 PM
Can't for the life of me figure out why people like Megadeth.

Pantera=Metallica>Slayer>Judas Priest>the rest>Megadeth
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:56:30 PM
I like Iced Earth but come the fuck on Fistful. I'd understand an argument for Anthrax or Exodus, even Vio-lence. But fucking Iced Earth :lol

They took Thrash, modernized it, fused it with Power, and dominated the 90's with several perfect albums.

They floundered in the aughts but have come back from the dead refueled and ready to fuck.

Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 05:57:18 PM
Can't for the life of me figure out why people like Megadeth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwYTVAXng6Y
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-S7MF6xhb4

Can't be beat.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: headwalk on August 02, 2013, 05:58:22 PM
also, ten/vs>facelift/dirt.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
Megadeth is amazing. Choosing between them or Metallica is difficult and very understandable. Rust in Peace is best album of all time status easily.

I like Rust in Peace more than any Metallica album. Though I put Ride the Lightning slightly below it.
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Post by: milchs evil twin on August 02, 2013, 06:00:21 PM
Can't for the life of me figure out why people like Megadeth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwYTVAXng6Y

Listening to Dave Mustaine is like watching videos of guys jerking off. Just not my cup of tea.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
Power Metal is pretty gay, it's just cheesy NWOBHM with more singing about dragons and keyboardz.

:yeshrug

That's the genius of Iced Earth tho. You take the majesty of an amazing vocalist with tons of range and throw him into a thrash band with a rhythm guitarist with riffs for ages and you got yourself a winning combo.
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Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 06:04:49 PM
Fade to Black is my fave metal song tho :obama
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Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 06:09:14 PM
I've never listened to Sepultura. I'll start with their debut lp
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Post by: Eli Gulgin on August 02, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Fade to Black is my fave metal song tho :obama

I like to watch the video of Metallica performing Fade to Black live and James Hetfield catching fire from time to time :yeshrug
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Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 06:12:59 PM
Beneath the Remains? Their entire discog is on spotify. God I love spotify.
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Post by: Himu on August 02, 2013, 06:19:42 PM
how does he even do it?
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 06:20:21 PM
The best bands putting out the best music current:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7woW7DmnR0E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8nfmf03F40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGHlZwMYO9g
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 02, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIQLiRuHxm4
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 02, 2013, 06:26:46 PM
how does he even do it?

headphones?
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Post by: Rufus on August 02, 2013, 06:40:10 PM
Power Metal is pretty gay, it's just cheesy NWOBHM with more singing about dragons and keyboardz.

:yeshrug
I have a weak spot for Blind Guardian. They sing about Lord of the Rings and stuff. Total cheese, but it doesn't bother me. You need to have a sense of humor for metal as a whole.
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Post by: Brehvolution on August 03, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Max :rejoice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJy_G_E8CIs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03k3dakOe6o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7JmSLWGE6U
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Post by: drew on August 03, 2013, 08:03:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muJWACguAFE&feature=player_embedded#at=288

:rock
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Post by: Diunx on August 03, 2013, 09:26:18 PM
I've never listened to Sepultura. I'll start with their debut lp
You're not ready for that shit :sabu

Listen to BtR




They're largely responsible for metal being popular in south america along with the big 4, truly a great band.

I can vouch for this.

Man I have so many fond (and painful mosh pits :bow2) memories of black/death metal concerts during my teen years and of course punk shows in rich kid's backyards :rock
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2013, 10:17:25 PM
what about me, guys  :leon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDVPLDppvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvpaK8aDJOY
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: drew on August 03, 2013, 10:18:25 PM
he said brown not black ;)
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Post by: D3RANG3D on August 03, 2013, 10:32:12 PM
The big 4 trash metal bands are kinda meh, it's all about Testament, Exodus, Hirax, and Vio-lence. :jawalrus
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xhGoS-_ltU
:rejoice
power metal vocals
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 03, 2013, 10:36:14 PM
Annihilator is another underrated classic thrash band.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
If you don't like Dehumanizer you don't know shit.
Title: Re: Black Album fucking owns, haters to the left
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2013, 10:48:59 PM
I'd still point to him as a power metal vocalist, especially considering he's the blueprint for it still (alongside Paul Dickinson obviously). You could argue Freddy Mercury was a power vocalist.

Power vocals require a certain level of skill and tone. The problem is that a lot of less talented singers basically overly exaggerate their vocals to attempt to replicate that sound, and fail.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 03, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
I meant Bruce. But I'm such a fan that I call him by his middle name :smug
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Post by: tiesto on August 05, 2013, 11:46:13 PM
Most people are surprised when I tell them I used to be into metal when I was a kid (80's Megadeth and Metallica and stuff)... haven't really kept up with the stuff though.
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Post by: headwalk on August 06, 2013, 07:54:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muJWACguAFE&feature=player_embedded#at=288

:rock

hardcore? on the bore?

well then, let me throw a t-bone on that grill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUK5lzAlogo

twenty four hours since it landed and it's already record of the year. big tunes, remorse blues and pile on anthems out the ass.
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2013, 08:39:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muJWACguAFE&feature=player_embedded#at=288

:rock

hardcore? on the bore?

well then, let me throw a t-bone on that grill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUK5lzAlogo

twenty four hours since it landed and it's already record of the year. big tunes, remorse blues and pile on anthems out the ass.


I fucking love this way more than the thrash posted in this thread. Theoretically I love metal, but a lot of the most popular tends to be thrash, and there are very few times I 'get' thrash.
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Post by: headwalk on August 06, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muJWACguAFE&feature=player_embedded#at=288

:rock

hardcore? on the bore?

well then, let me throw a t-bone on that grill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUK5lzAlogo

twenty four hours since it landed and it's already record of the year. big tunes, remorse blues and pile on anthems out the ass.


I fucking love this way more than the thrash posted in this thread. Theoretically I love metal, but a lot of the most popular tends to be thrash, and there are very few times I 'get' thrash.

modern life is war are one of those transcendental holy shit bands, most important hardcore band since blag flag. they split five years ago and left a hole in the scene which nobody could fill; so they got back together and it's like they never dropped a beat.

even though i'm already calling fever hunting record of the year, i've got my dick in my hand waiting for this to drop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5yfreafAw
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Post by: Rufus on August 06, 2013, 11:47:43 PM
<--------------------Only listens to grindcore :yeshrug
How about some gore grind?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWmY11rx2rA
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2013, 11:55:16 PM

modern life is war are one of those transcendental holy shit bands, most important hardcore band since blag flag. they split five years ago and left a hole in the scene which nobody could fill; so they got back together and it's like they never dropped a beat.

even though i'm already calling fever hunting record of the year, i've got my dick in my hand waiting for this to drop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5yfreafAw

Good shit, headwalk
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Post by: Steve Contra on August 07, 2013, 05:54:46 PM

now we're cooking. my only issue is that rhinestone daddy early 80s priest has nothing on late 80s all out electrosexual priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwuxoSHsSo
I had no idea this thread got good  :whew