Can't wait to download this!! :hyperthis
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.
How in the world could anyone be on Team Walt?
the hell are you talking aboutWhy should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.
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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?
Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.
I think I was done when he raped his wife.She was begging for it with those "fuck me" eyes
the hell are you talking aboutWhy should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.
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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?
Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.
You expect Walt to get away with his manipulative bullshit? He's going down, that's been clear since the beginning. He's a piece of shit, and him being smarter than everyone doesn't make him better.
Mine would be Walt Jr. finally getting his goddamn breakfast.
I thought the first part of the 5th season was the best. The tone, atmosphere and intensity made it amazing.
The plan was always for this to be a man's slow descent, nothing was sped up. Walt did amoral shit in the first three seasons too, let's not kid ourselves. It was obvious he'd have to essentially ramp up towards the end, given his cancer and the threats to his family.Suburban criminals are a lot easier to relate to from the cable tv crowd than inner city thugs. TV was also much different back then. Too far ahead of its time
On a side note I find it interesting that people identify and root for Walter White and Tony Soprano, yet one of the biggest reasons The Wire never was a big show while it aired was because it challenged viewers to identify with black drug dealers. There's just as much humanity and personality in a lot of the characters, they're just as grey...yet at the time I remember a lot of people not wanting to "root" for "drug dealers." Just an interesting aside, to me at least. Obviously now everyone loves The Wire, but it wasn't always like this.
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.
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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?
Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.
Agreed. This is a show that needs to end with a bang. It's been escalating for 6 years and that ending would be a copout.Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.
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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?
Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.
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That would have been such a shit ending.
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.
I'm pretty pissed that the ending is going to be so negative. We already know that the house is going to get seized. Fuck that shit.
When did he rape Skyler?
I'd go back to team Walt if he murdered Skyler.
Not really. Hypothetically it could have ended happily at the end of Season 5 Part 1. All that needed to happen was:
1) Walt not leaving Leaves of Grass out in the open, and
2) Walt taking the time to make sure his successors could cook a decent batch of meth. I'm assuming that this will become an important plot point, and the fact is that if Walt could teach Jesse to cook 95% pure meth in a Mexican lab, he sure as shit could have taught someone else.
So really, it's going to be a combination of a long-shot coincidence, and an unfortunate oversight that ruin what could have been a nice ending for all parties. And to some extent, it seems like Vince Gilligan moralizing at this point. He's completely lost sight of what made the show great in Seasons 1-4, but everything about the production of the show is of such high quality that it doesn't really suffer as a whole.
Himu, you're getting pretty aggressive right now. I'm going to have to ask you to dial it back. The actual content of your post is mostly fine, but little embellishments like "this is stupid" and "Jesus Christ" only serve as needless provocations. Do you want to discuss Breaking Bad in good fun, or do you want to insult potential conversation partners? It should be an easy choice.
I've discussed Breaking Bad with enough people online to know how they get their rocks off living their weird ass fantasies through Walter White.
Dude, I don't remember what season Walt raped Skylar, but rapes Skylar in the kitchen. It is clearly rape, and I have no idea how you got it into your head that scene was consensual.
I've discussed Breaking Bad with enough people online to know how they get their rocks off living their weird ass fantasies through Walter White.Dude, I don't remember what season Walt raped Skylar, but rapes Skylar in the kitchen. It is clearly rape, and I have no idea how you got it into your head that scene was consensual.
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I'm on #TeamWalt because the other characters are terrible.
To kill Gale.
Walt did not manipulate Jesse into killing Gale. Jesse killed Gale because it was literally the only hope of survival for both him and Walt. That is not the same thing, Himu.
Sure, he manipulated Jesse at other times, the latter half of Season 4 (Tomas poisoning) being the best example.
One of my favorite developed themes of the show is Jesse being almost a complete opposite of Walt. Deep down, Jesse is a good person. While Walt keeps proving that he's destructible. I love the scene with Badger and Skinny Pete where Jesse looks to have evolved far beyond them.
I think they did a bad job at connecting ricen cigarette pack > saul > WALT TRIED TO KILL BROCK
but whatever.
That house wasn't burnt inside in the future Walt retrieves the ricen scene was it?
Thinking about it, Jesse finding out the way he did isn't even in the top 5 when it comes to the most ridiculous things the show did in order to move the plot forward.
Don't forget that Hank is the aggressor here.
the way Walt manipulated Walt Jr. last night was tough to watch.
Where do you think all that savewalterwhite.com money went? :pimp
Marie is a douche with a god complex. For all the shit Walt gets about manipulating others, Marie has been just as bad, if not worse. And she's not even doing these things for a good purpose like taking out a crime boss and mass murderer and preventing her entire family from being murdered.
I mean at least when Walt gave Brock a shitty weekend to get Jesse back on his side, it ended up with Gus Fring being taken off the streets.
Marie is a douche with a god complex. For all the shit Walt gets about manipulating others, Marie has been just as bad, if not worse. And she's not even doing these things for a good purpose like taking out a crime boss and mass murderer and preventing her entire family from being murdered.
Flynn is just a kid. Jesse doesn't like innocents getting involved. He wouldn't do that to Walt...would he? Then again, at this point, Skyler wants Jesse dead, and Hank is willing to sacrifice any sense of humanity to get anything on Walt.
I think Junior might play a bigger role in the conclusion though. They've been ramping up his screen time.
I think Jesse mentioned WWJR once or twice, but I'm pretty sure they've never had a face-to-face.
I was Team Hank until he was willing to let Pinkman die. It fits with his character but it pissed me off. Team Jesse bitches, even if I thought he was a major liability during the Gus period.
Still Team Walt, especially after Hank was cool with Jesse getting offed. I was cool with Hank winning up until he was willing to fuck over Skyler and have Jesse get killed on camera. I'm sticking with the asshole I've been rooting for from the beginning.
Also, Jesse is an idiot. He should be the one to kill Walt if it ever comes down to it. But man is he a paranoid idiot. He fucked over Hank and potentially fucked himself over doing that.
That was some 1970s cop show shootin' there at the end :lol
wowzeryeah, episode should have ended with a silent standoff, and the suggestion that jesse is gonna try and bolt. bullets flying everywhere was kinda dumb.
but lol at no one getting shot that entire time
Also, Lydia is now my most hated BB character.
Also, Lydia is now my most hated BB character.
Walt getting fooled by the photo and Jesse's story. ::) The shootout. ::) ::)
Walt getting fooled by the photo and Jesse's story. ::) The shootout. ::) ::)
I, too, thought Walt driving straight there without even thinking was stupid. Of all the calculating shit he's done, he didn't think that through?
Also, Lydia is now my most hated BB character.
I'd totally hate-fuck her and let Todd watch.
Walt getting fooled by the photo and Jesse's story. ::) The shootout. ::) ::)
I, too, thought Walt driving straight there without even thinking was stupid. Of all the calculating shit he's done, he didn't think that through?
Are we watching the same show? Have you missed the point that Walt DOESN'T think things through and has just been lucky?
The moment where Todd's uncle showed up was probably one of tv's biggest "fuck yeah!" moments ever though.
The "Better Call Saul" spin-off from "Breaking Bad" has just moved one step closer to reality, as AMC has signed a licensing agreement with Sony (the studio that produces and owns "Breaking Bad") for the spin-off — which will be "a one-hour prequel that will focus on the evolution of the popular Saul Goodman character before he ever became Walter White's lawyer."
This season is sucking ass. It's taking way too long to make any kind of plot advancements. There are only three episodes left. Given the starting scenes of S5-1 and S5-2, they'd almost have to cram a shitload of plot to get to those points. So I suspect a lot of good, exciting shit is going to get rushed because Vince Gilligan really needs to let us know that Walt is a bad guy.
I agree with whoever said the end part of Season 4 was the best. Season 4 reigns supreme.
QuoteThe "Better Call Saul" spin-off from "Breaking Bad" has just moved one step closer to reality, as AMC has signed a licensing agreement with Sony (the studio that produces and owns "Breaking Bad") for the spin-off — which will be "a one-hour prequel that will focus on the evolution of the popular Saul Goodman character before he ever became Walter White's lawyer."
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S3 is still my favorite, although 4 was great too. The first half of S5 was damn good, especially the stuff with Mike and the finale. But this season just feels like it's speeding and being incredibly slow at the same time, I can't really describe it. The emotional confrontations I've waited for since S1 just didn't impress me that much. And while last ep was overall a good ep...the ending left a really sour taste in my mouth.if hank and gomez are dead, ep should have ended with that. I don't see any other out, why would 4-5 thugs NOT kill two cops (and jesse, even) in the middle of nowhere? meth damon clearly doesn't give a fuck who he offs.
If local police show up to save the day I'm going to lose a whole lot of respect for the show. Killing Hank/Gomez would have made so much sense. I was entirely convinced it was going to happen, after Hank's conversation with Marie. Obviously it can still happen next episode but I just felt this was a cop out.
:rejoice Walt's breakdown and reveal as a complete, utter, and pathetic sociopath is glorious. :rejoice
:rejoice Walt's breakdown and reveal as a complete, utter, and pathetic sociopath is glorious. :rejoicespoiler (click to show/hide)to be fair, he was doing a pretty selfless thing with skyler, he knew there were cops on the line[close]
Rian Johnson is a good director.
I can't feel too bad for Jesse, he did shoot a fairly innocent man ("innocent" in the context of the show's world) straight in the face.
I can't feel too bad for Jesse, he did shoot a fairly innocent man ("innocent" in the context of the show's world) straight in the face.
And he spent almost an entire season dealing with that. Jesse takes the deaths on the show the hardest of anyone.
A quick review of tonight's "Breaking Bad" coming up just as soon as I sell that hideous crying clown...
"Mama." -Holly
AWESOM-O is trolling, don't fall for it.
Although, I do think the "Walt needs to go down hard cause I hate him and I can't like him cause he's evil" crowd are a bunch of self righteous pussies. It's a fucking TV show, settle down. Team Walt cause he's an awesome FICTIONAL character. You don't have to prove you're a good person through who you root for in a TV show. I can understand wanting Hank/Jesse/etc. to win but if your reason is "HE'S A TERRIBLE PERSON" then kindly take a stroll on fuck off land.
Jesus is he still going on about what I think he's going on about? I haven't checked.
You two are the worst kinds of fans of fiction. Stop shitting up this thread.
Wow, I think I'm going to back out slowly. Too many self serious people upset because people like/don't different things from them. Thought we were past middle school tbh but guess not. :teehee
I can't feel too bad for Jesse, he did shoot a fairly innocent man ("innocent" in the context of the show's world) straight in the face.
And he spent almost an entire season dealing with that. Jesse takes the deaths on the show the hardest of anyone.
"I felt bad about that murder for months, Your Honor."
So Walt has no family or connections and he has basically unlimited money. At this point, I'm not sure who he's trying to get revenge for with the machine gun as his family should be safe and the Aryans basically just did their job.
So Walt has no family or connections and he has basically unlimited money. At this point, I'm not sure who he's trying to get revenge for with the machine gun as his family should be safe and the Aryans basically just did their job.
Jeese, maybe.
Also, the Aryans still killed Hank.
Lydia is hot, bro.
Fuck the aryans, i think that's the real enemy everyone should be laboring against. let's all put down our swords and agree that jack - and lydia - needs to die.
Fuck the aryans, i think that's the real enemy everyone should be laboring against. let's all put down our swords and agree that jack - and lydia - needs to die.
Todd is the only truly fucked up person among the Aryans.
Fuck the aryans, i think that's the real enemy everyone should be laboring against. let's all put down our swords and agree that jack - and lydia - needs to die.
Todd is the only truly fucked up person among the Aryans.
Hey. Don't talk about Meth Damon like that.
Jesse killed Gale because it was the only way to save Walt and himself. And Gale was already on board with the reasoning that Gus gave for why Walt would no longer be cooking so you could maybe call him neutral but Gale was not an innocent guy.
I think Jesse basically shows the limits of what a "good" person could be pushed to do while Walt was a highly educated scientist and a family man who was always capable of evil things if you gave him the motivation.
Walt-hater privilege is not having your morals questioned by a man who beat his own mother.
Walt-hater privilege is being able to log into a message board and be pretty certain of finding people who agree with your views.
Walt-hater privilege is being able to read columns by television critics and find that they represent you and what you stand for.
Walt-hater privilege is not having your sanity not-so-jokingly questioned because of your choice of a television character to support.
Walt-hater privilege is not having the creator of your favorite show deliberately try to alienate you.
Walt-hater privilege is being able to express your opinions online without fear of being called a troll.
Privilege comes in many forms. Learn to recognize it where it exists. Together we can create a more open-minded world.
While I'm glad that Walt's descent is now completely undeniable, even for the fiercest #TeamWalt loser...at the same time is it wrong that I was happy to see Marie's smug smile wiped off her face :umad
Fuck the aryans, i think that's the real enemy everyone should be laboring against. let's all put down our swords and agree that jack - and lydia - needs to die.
Todd is the only truly fucked up person among the Aryans.
also attention David Benioff and DB Weiss: see how showing the aftermath of torture+good acting is dramatically more effective than torture porn? Take notes, you fucking idiots.
also attention David Benioff and DB Weiss: see how showing the aftermath of torture+good acting is dramatically more effective than torture porn? Take notes, you fucking idiots.
Who?
So Walt has no family or connections and he has basically unlimited money. At this point, I'm not sure who he's trying to get revenge for with the machine gun as his family should be safe and the Aryans basically just did their job.I can't feel too bad for Jesse, he did shoot a fairly innocent man ("innocent" in the context of the show's world) straight in the face.
And he spent almost an entire season dealing with that. Jesse takes the deaths on the show the hardest of anyone.
"I felt bad about that murder for months, Your Honor."
Jesse killed Gale because it was the only way to save Walt and himself. And Gale was already on board with the reasoning that Gus gave for why Walt would no longer be cooking so you could maybe call him neutral but Gale was not an innocent guy.
I think Jesse basically shows the limits of what a "good" person could be pushed to do while Walt was a highly educated scientist and a family man who was always capable of evil things if you gave him the motivation.
While I'm glad that Walt's descent is now completely undeniable, even for the fiercest #TeamWalt loser...at the same time is it wrong that I was happy to see Marie's smug smile wiped off her face :umad
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This is the most sympathetic he's been in episodes, maybe even years.
While I'm glad that Walt's descent is now completely undeniable, even for the fiercest #TeamWalt loser...at the same time is it wrong that I was happy to see Marie's smug smile wiped off her face :umad
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This is the most sympathetic he's been in episodes, maybe even years.
Eh? The scene after he exposed Jesse and told him how Jane died, I hated him as much as any time before and just thought, "why don't you just put a bullet through your head". Of course, he didn't have much choice given how things went, but that still felt like the most despicable moment of the show, just full on hatred from Walt.
What was exactly try hard about it? The intro is pretty stupid, I agree. But the rest?
Gomez was the poster child for the idiotic war on drugs. He seemed like a decent human being, but he was just another casualty of our senseless drug policy.
do people enjoy rian johnson's "hey ma, i'm directing!" style? cause i've got a few second second year film school projects you might wanna see.
So I thought Alyssa Rosenberg was a hack, but dear God, Maureen Ryan.
Breaking Bad deserves better writers reviewing it.
So I thought Alyssa Rosenberg was a hack, but dear God, Maureen Ryan.
Breaking Bad deserves better writers reviewing it.
Watched some of season 1 again.
Walt is a monster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkFs90jJfOg
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Meth Damon :rejoice
Adria tho :'(
So is Walt going to fuck up his old colleagues or the Nazis?
Is it wrong that I think Walt Jr. is a total punk ass and want to see him slip and fall a bunch?
goodnight sweet lydia
Felt the ending was a bit basic and predictable. Still satisfying.
Holy shit. One of the beat finales ever. EVER. HOME ALONE X BREAKING BAD.
Holy shit. One of the beat finales ever. EVER. HOME ALONE X BREAKING BAD.
I don't get this comment. Walt had one hand-made trap and it was outside the home.
Wonder what Awesome-O thinks of Walt's admission that he never did any of it for the family at all. :teehee
Also I think by telling Lydia about the Ricin he might have tipped her off to saving herself. I mean they were able to save Brock right?
Also, the Need For Speed movie is the Jesse Pinkman sequel.
What sucks is that most of the actors from this show will go on and do jack_fucking_shit.
looking forward to every goddamned idiot on the planet going as heisenberg for halloween
I think Gilligan is right when he says Ozymandias is the best episode of the show.
What sucks is that most of the actors from this show will go on and do jack_fucking_shit.Yup. Just like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under and The Shield. Or Seinfeld. Or even mega popular dreck like Friends.
I actually think tonights ep was the best in the series.
Yeah, The Shield's finale still reigns supreme. It's pretty much impossible to top.
I think Gilligan is right when he says Ozymandias is the best episode of the show.I totally agree. Rian Johnson out-directed everyone else who ever directed a BB episode.
Loved all the Scorsese influences. The final song was used similarly in The Departed, the M60 showdown was pretty Taxi Driver and even Walt's confession to Skyler struck me as a little Henry Hill.What sucks is that most of the actors from this show will go on and do jack_fucking_shit.Yup. Just like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under and The Shield. Or Seinfeld. Or even mega popular dreck like Friends.
Imperioli was in a few shows that got cancelled immediately. Falco had Nurse Jackie, I guess. Elba is the only one that really got traction after The Wire. Omar is only now really getting emphasis on Boardwalk. Krause got a show on ABC that got canned, Michael C Hall got the cancer and Dexter. Chiklis got 2 cancelled corny shows. Shane gets typecast as a creepy hick and lucked out at getting a great part on Justified.
Probably the only time Jesse, Gus, Mike and Hank will get to use their chops on this scale.
I almost popped a boner when Jesse strangled that sick albino creep
I'm most impressed by how they managed to maintain momentum throughout the entire series. I never once felt like I was watching a "filler" episode. Everything felt like it contributed to the overall arc, even episodes like "Bug." I wish Jesse would have gotten a bit more spotlight in the finale, but otherwise I was very satisfied with the denouement.
I'm most impressed by how they managed to maintain momentum throughout the entire series. I never once felt like I was watching a "filler" episode.
Everything felt like it contributed to the overall arc, even episodes like "Bug." I wish Jesse would have gotten a bit more spotlight in the finale, but otherwise I was very satisfied with the denouement.
The flash forward was amazingly executed.yeah, I dug how it moved into that in a natural way. like I said, a nice end-cap to the series, and thinking about it, not much reaally happened, unlike a lot of eps where lots of moving parts are going on. it's basically just walt saying goodbye.
:lol at a certain character in the BB gaf threadYou mean the belligerent, petulant #TEAMWALT guy who keeps bringing up Amirox and whose only threads are about politics, sports and James Cameron's Avatar?spoiler (click to show/hide)I have a theory[close]
You had the arrogance to call the people who didn't agree with your personal interpretation of a fictional work "Bad Fans." Now it turns out they were more on the money than you were this entire time. This is pretty satisfying to watch. Perhaps you'll show more restraint and humility if such a scenario comes up again in the future. You (and Maureen Ryan, Matt Seitz, and others) were the ones "making a smart show dumb", as another critic put it. Not the ones who argued that Walt was something more than the evil caricature that you and many critics insisted he was.
eh, she's just as bad, but uses proxies to keep her nose clean, and looks down on everyone around her as if the insulation she's built up around herself protects her from the consequences. Guess not always.
Everyone loves Rian Johnson's style but you, Federman.
Everyone and their dog has already commented but I thought the ending was very satisfying. Reminds me a lot of The Shield's ending where it ended kind of quietly but only that was because it was the result of an amazing show that preceded it so it didn't need to end on a bang.I wasn't following the show online/etc when it aired, but were people disappointed by The Shield's ending?
:lol at a certain character in the BB gaf threadYou mean the belligerent, petulant #TEAMWALT guy who keeps bringing up Amirox and whose only threads are about politics, sports and James Cameron's Avatar?spoiler (click to show/hide)I have a theory[close]
He might have a point about that New Yorker gal, though.
http://newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html
Damn, you know how this ending would be awful? If they ended it Brazil style, and everything that happened after he got in the car was a dream.
I mean, Walts plan worked too perfectly... the never happened before.
because he usually fucked it up with stupid ego trips, this time none of that played a part given how at peace he seemed.
Plus the usual help from lady luck.