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Title: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:25:14 AM: About to start. Live blogs only:

http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-surface-2-liveblog/
http://live.cnet.com/Event/Microsoft_Surface_2_event
http://mashable.com/2013/09/22/microsoft-surface-live-blog/

EDIT:

Everything in here: http://www.theverge.com/microsoft/2013/9/23/4761722/all-the-news-from-microsofts-surface-2-event
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:26:16 AM: Some crazy covers:

(http://i.imgur.com/EztShq0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lg8aaQJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0rw55ol.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: archnemesis on September 23, 2013, 10:28:10 AM: Did they cut the price in half?
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:30:53 AM: Maybe they will do that for the old models.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZOPsaHu.jpg)
That looks like the dock, it has two parts on the side that stick out.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:31:06 AM: "Ladies and gentlemen please take your seats our presentation is about to begin."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:34:42 AM: Panos has taken the stage.

"This is a big day for Surface. A big day for the Surface team in Redmond."

"We've been working on the second-generation of products for around 18 months."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:35:31 AM: "We're going to introduce to you the next-generation of devices, two of them."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:35:50 AM: "The most productive tablet ever built with Surface 2."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:36:42 AM: Surface Pro 2, "let me introduce you Surface Pro." Loud cheers from the Microsoft members of the audience.

"Surface Pro has been one of the best products Microsoft has built."

"I love Surface Pro, I use it all the time. We only set out to make it better.

"Reinventing the wheel is not the goal, making it better is."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Mupepe on September 23, 2013, 10:36:54 AM: I held off from the original for all the kinks to be worked out so I'm excited as ballz.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:37:41 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/AwmdsV9.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:38:37 AM: "The screen…it's the ClearType HD display you're used to. We spent more and more energy to bring this thing to life. We added 46 percent… more color accuracy to the screen."

(http://i.imgur.com/L72frew.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:39:12 AM: "This is super important. If you're a pro using this, it's really important.

Just as you'd expect, Microsoft is aiming the Surface Pro 2 at professionals.

"We've boosted these speakers and added Dolby to the Surface 2 line up."

"Those are subtle changes. Let's talk about the more impactful ones."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:39:17 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/PosKdKG.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:39:51 AM: "They love it because it's fast, it's the fastest product they've ever used."

"Surface Pro 2 is literally faster than 95 percent of laptops today."

"Moving to Surface Pro 2 we've increased the graphics performance by 50 percent."

"We improved the performance on this product by 20 percent, if you thought it was fast before it is lightning fast now."

"Surface Pro, people use it like it. Surface Pro 2 gets better on a number of fronts."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:40:21 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/a3hrR7K.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:40:28 AM: The rear of the Surface Pro 2 doesn't have a Windows logo anymore. It simply says "Surface."

Panos is talking about the 22 degrees angle of the original kickstand.

"You need better angles."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:42:25 AM: "One of the things people say, if it really is a power of a PC in a tablet form factor… it needs to work better in the lap."

"Sometimes subtly can be the most impactful force."

"This is the evolution of the kickstand. This is something that will change this product in ways that you cannot expect.

(http://i.imgur.com/KDo55jX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jMLX860.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BxSVmUs.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:43:22 AM: "We've increased the speed of the product by 20 percent."

"What's the one thing they say about the product? Battery, of course."

"We've added Haswell to the product, absolutely."

"We didn't stop there. We didn't want to just bring you 20 percent improvement in battery life."

"The point of this product is to work fast, the need of the product is to work all the time."

"We couldn't miss either one. We pushed the battery life further."

"They made it operate cooler, quieter, all fact. Most important with every element of the redesign they focused on one thing… more battery life.

Surface Pro improves battery by 75 percent. That's a lot.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:45:09 AM: "I always want more, our team Surface wants more. They are relentless in what they do. We decided to go from Surface Pro to Surface Pro with Power Cover."

"This is Surface Power Cover, it's a 30w battery added to your product."

(http://i.imgur.com/LQ3e9F3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Q8LwIBh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NFWdrFi.jpg)

"It clicks right in, it forms like a book. It looks beautiful and it's wrapped in fabric."

"Surface Pro 2 now lets you use it all day."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:47:04 AM: "It is the most productive, professional tablet in the world."

"The one thing that we've kinda not talked about is how much of a workstation this thing can be."

"We hear from businesses, we want to buy one product."

"I want to introduce to you the Surface Docking Station."

(http://i.imgur.com/oK3HU5Z.jpg)

3x USB 3.0, 1x USB 1.0, Mini DisplayPort, Ethernet, Audio in, Audio Out, Power.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 23, 2013, 10:47:38 AM: This is worse then my Sony posts, cause someone will actually buy a PS4.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:47:45 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/GxLR04k.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0Crp6GV.jpg)

The Surface slides straight into the Docking Station and it clicks into place.

"You can power two monitors right off this docking station."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:49:25 AM: Looks like a Red Dragon camera collaboration with Surface coming up.

"This is the same camera that made Game of Thrones."

"What I wanna tell you is that the data coming off this camera is raw 6K data."

"It ends up here, on Surface Pro 2. Take a look at the image coming off my Surface Pro 2.

(http://i.imgur.com/gOOv9IM.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:50:28 AM: Panos has just taken the Surface Pro 2 off the Docking Station, it simply slides out the top.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 23, 2013, 10:51:02 AM: More MCD posts itt then sales irl
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:51:25 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/IwNdQrM.jpg)

"We're using the 46 percent color improvement with the least amount of reflectivity…. I'm outside on a movie set right now."

Panos is talking about a scenario where movie makers can use the Surface Pro 2 at a shoot to process 6K raw data.

"This is power."

"When we talk about having the full power of a PC in a tablet form factor. We're really proud of this, it's really cool."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:52:00 AM: "We've talked about Surface Pro 2, I'd like to talk about for a minute using the product in your lap."

"I want to introduce to you the Type Cover 2."

"This is interesting, Type Cover 2 is a beautiful product. It is a beautiful product. It comes in many different colors."

"It's amazing for people who loved it for how it felt. It's also amazing how people want to personalize their devices."

(http://i.imgur.com/ENcEyiY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0zcAhG8.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:54:14 AM: "We don't want to stop by just adding a color. We want to push the barrier."

"It's clear input makes you productive. Typing is scenario that makes you productive. This product does that, this product has changed. It's exactly 1mm thiner than the last Type Cover."

"We want you to type faster, we want you to be faster, we want you to be better."

"We've taken a full milimeter out of the travel. Type Cover 2 is almost as thin as Touch Cover 1."

"It's not only thinner, it's also backlit."

(http://i.imgur.com/1yCyoQz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RuYLc5O.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: archnemesis on September 23, 2013, 10:54:58 AM: Quote from: Shark Johnson on September 23, 2013, 10:53:22 AM
Hey, do you guys think this will end up being a good device for College? I don't want a Macbook but I also don't want a turdy ass windows laptop, either.
It depends what you want to use it for. I have a MacBook Air that's useful for taking notes during meetings, but for any more productive work I prefer to use a desktop PC. Writing 20 pages of text on a laptop keyboard sounds like hell to me.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:55:48 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/a5E003w.jpg)

It dims after around nine seconds. We're sitting in the dark watching a demo of the Type Cover 2.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:56:40 AM: "So that's Surface Pro 2, you get better screen, great speakers."

"75 percent more battery life, you get to used it all day. The kickstand now allows lapability."

"What I believe is the most powerful tablet for professional use in the world."

(http://i.imgur.com/HcP2uKZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:56:55 AM: We're switching to Surface 2 now.

"Surface 2 is the product that we're introducing to you today."

"It's the revamp people need. When the team set out to deliver Surface RT…they had a vision. We had a vision. We went out to create a product that people can buy and get away from just consumption."

"And get away from their iPad or tablet and be more productive.

"I really want you to get your hands on this product today. I'm excited about it."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 10:59:54 AM: Microsoft is showing off a quick video of the Surface 2, it looks similar to the original Surface video

"Lighter."

"Thinner."

"Faster."

"Full HD."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:00:38 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/YQUyqc2.jpg)

"This product really is a revamp."

"This is the fastest product I've used relative to a personal tablet."

"We've increased the CPU speed dramatically."

"We've revamped the product so you can see the true magnesium of the product coming out."

"We've added the Surface logo. You're using a Surface, you want people to know you're using a Surface. Let them know."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:02:35 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/Veyj0Vc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/i89yKuL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/N6l0xnE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/CdPu08A.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:02:57 AM: "On the last product we talked about trade offs."

"We use the same injection moulding process we used in the past."

"This product got lighter, and thinner."

"I'll tell you how it's more sexier, because it is."

(http://i.imgur.com/dkZ8sEs.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GIcFs1e.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:04:56 AM: "A year ago we launched this product with Windows 8. We're launching with 8.1. The power of 8.1 comes to life in full in this product."

"It doesn't slow down, there's nothing that slows it down."

"Because we're using Surface 2 with the Windows RT 8.1 OS. We're able to protect this device full through."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:06:26 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/f4KVu29.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/M5DVC6C.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:06:51 AM: "Last year we launched this product with 10,000 apps. This year I stand up in front of you and there's 100,000 apps in the Windows Store right now. That's critical."

Flipboard and Facebook are coming, but no word when.

"When you use an app on here, you realize how powerful this product is."

"The power of this product will come out through its applications."

"There's this one app we don't talk about enough…it's the one almost everybody uses. It comes with this device." It's Office.

Panos talking up the addition of Outlook RT in Surface 2

"It works flawlessly on this product."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:08:35 AM: Demo time.

"This is running all four Office apps at the same time."

Microsoft is really focusing on the productivity idea of Surface, rather than Metro-style apps here. We've just switched over to the Halo Windows 8 game though.

Julie Larson-Green is now controlling Halo from the audience.

"I plug in to my USB 3.0 port, a wireless dongle."

"I'm still running all my favorite Office apps in the background."

Panos demonstrating the multitasking of Windows RT 8.1.

"If you think you're gonna play Halo and work at the same time, you have issues." Panos jokes

"You're better off working and playing, doing them at the same time is called ADD. Don't do it."

(http://i.imgur.com/HFLr8L2.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:11:33 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/da50KyT.jpg)

"I want to switch over to a Skype conversation."

"The back camera on this is phenomenal."

"The stills you take off of it are gorgeous. The power of the front facing camera is one of a kind. The front camera really matters, here's why."

"This scenario is real and it's one I do all the time. While I play Halo plently, and I work a lot, I don't do them together. I do a lot of Skype."

"I'm gonna change angle on the kickstand. This is important, now it has created the great angle for me to use the camera."

"When I'm in China, they're usually sleeping when I'm awake." Panos talking about his kids and now demonstrating a video message from Skype.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:15:01 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/PXjWAKn.jpg)

X360
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:15:35 AM: The lights are dimming, but the camera is still drawing a lot of light.

"It's a unique lens, we're able to filter light throughout the product."

"Panos talking up the ability for people to use Skype and not worry about the lighting around them. This is the power of Surface and Skype coming together."

Best of Skype for one year, free international calling and free Wi-Fi included with Surface 2 or Surface Pro 2.

So Microsoft is bundling in free Skype Wi-Fi hotspots with free international calling. Great for Skype users.

(http://i.imgur.com/33cb635.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:17:04 AM: "When we talk about the power of Windows 8.1, this is a demo that brings that to life as well."

"This is my Surface 2, I use it for everything. All of my files are saved to SkyDrive. All my photos, all my documents, everything lives in the cloud."

"I can't see the cloud, but I know it's there. When you get Surface 2 you get this automatic opportunity to use SkyDrive."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:18:02 AM: "I can throw this and try and make this point."

Panos is moving into the audience. Is he about to throw it?

"It's a really hard device to break, the build quality is unbelievalble."

It doesn't look like he's going to throw it unfortunately.

(http://i.imgur.com/CvGEhkv.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:19:49 AM: Panos is talking up the ability to store all info on SkyDrive.

Panos is joking with the crowd about an "arch nemesis" in media getting hold of secret information.

"That product is Bitlocker encrypted, by the time I get off this stage there's really no hope for Mary Jo to get it."

"It's like a magic trick and it works and you don't need to know magic. This is the power of SkyDrive." Being able to simply restore a device if it's lost.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:21:12 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/37AwhSR.jpg)

"For those of you who said you don't use SkyDrive, we're gonna solve that. When you buy a Surface 2 you get 200GB of SkyDrive for two years from day one."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:21:30 AM: We're selling Surface 2 for $449.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:22:05 AM: "Let me show you one more thing."

"This is Touch Cover 2." It's also backlit.

(http://i.imgur.com/aRJa0sq.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:22:36 AM: "I'm gonna show you the blacklight." 1mm thinner than the last Touch Cover. We're in the dark watching the dimming again.

"It's really marvellous what the Surface has done back in Redmond."

"It feels like a book when you close it. Surface 2 got thinner, Touch Cover got thinner."

"With the high resolution sensor…you can't miss a key."

"We have predictive typing that comes off the product. You will type on this thing and you will not miss words."

"With Type Cover 2 and Touch Cover 2 they work on all our products."

(http://i.imgur.com/uNLs0Iz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DObbZnH.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:22:56 AM: Quote from: Borys on September 23, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
Did he throw it ?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQddoyjef1k

He did it last year.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:25:22 AM: "What I want you to do is come with me on a small journey."

"Everything the Surface team does right now is not only now, but the future. We started Surface 2 long before Surface RT launched."

"This sensor is to open your mind just a little bit."

"If you could click in and do more, a lot more than just typing."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:26:15 AM: We're watching a video now.

(http://i.imgur.com/WdEisQU.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:26:26 AM: Quote from: The Business on September 23, 2013, 11:25:34 AM
Can't wait until Apple comes out with a back-lit keyboard for my iPad!
You mean Logitech.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:26:57 AM: We just saw a new cover, the one with numbers and volume controls we saw earlier.

The video is going through a bunch of "what ifs" for Surface.

(http://i.imgur.com/ifto7lw.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:28:12 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/ZFwQtNV.jpg)

"Surface remix project."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:28:44 AM: "I'm going to show you the first next-generation version of what you could do."

"This product will be available on 10/22."

(http://i.imgur.com/nELo4h2.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:29:12 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/qAC4sOy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4crn3Z9.jpg)

"When I told you we have a full resolution sensor on the product, it's that same pressure sensitivity you get on the first product."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:29:51 AM: "Now I can take you to the next level. This is a cover that lets you remix your favorite music and share it with the whole world."

"It's the same thinness of any Touch Cover you've seen before." Panos is showing how the sounds it produces are louder based on pressure.

"We know you're putting pressure. If you were finger painting, you could smudge your ink harder. Think of the things beyond a simple product."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: hampster on September 23, 2013, 11:30:14 AM: Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:21:30 AM
We're selling Surface 2 for $449.

Why would they sell this for $450 when the big iPad is only $50 more and you can get real laptops with real windows in the $400-$500 range ???
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:31:24 AM: Microsoft has a special app, in combination with Xbox Music, that lets you remix music.

Panos is demonstrating the mixing ability of the cover with the app.

"That is the Surface remix project. You have never seen that before. It is just the beginning."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:32:33 AM: "The Surface team is back in Redmond working right now on generations to come. We're proud of what we're bringing you today."

"The power of designing for all of Microsoft is in this product. You will feel it when you use it."

"Tomorrow morning 8AM we will start taking pre-orders on all the Surface products. On 10/22 these products will be available."

(http://i.imgur.com/ZGurERo.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:33:51 AM: Surface 2 is $449 and Surface Pro 2 is $899. Surface RT remains at $349.

Surface Pro 2 comes in a variety of configurations. 64GB storage and 4GB RAM, 128GB storage and 4GB RAM, and also 256GB of storage with 8GB of RAM and 512GB of storage with 8GB of RAM.

"It shows you us bringing software, services, and devices together. This is a massive step towards that evolution."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:35:42 AM: "Surface Pro 2, for the professional users out there that want the most productive tablet possible…go get it. This thing is a beast."

"This team that designs this product, it's crazy. They're not gonna stop. You're only gonna see more and more from the Surface team.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:37:25 AM: It looks like we're wrapping up here.

"The team is proud of what they did here. We think these products make people's lives better."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:38:22 AM: (http://i.imgur.com/EkuyXvx.jpg)

"In Surface Pro 2, guys you have a full PC in a tablet form factor. It's workstation. You can do so much with this product."

"It is so personal, yet so productive."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:38:33 AM: And we're done. A video is playing us out.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:39:06 AM: Thank you for reading the bore liveblog.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:40:34 AM: To recap:

http://www.theverge.com/microsoft/2013/9/23/4761722/all-the-news-from-microsofts-surface-2-event
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:45:46 AM: Surface 2 is sent to die with that price. I expected them to go Surface mini because that at least might look different and better valued. Maybe even priced cheaper.

Pro 2 is the real deal. It's a beast and the only one worth buying.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:50:55 AM: Quote from: Shark Johnson on September 23, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Yeah, the S2 seems dumb and so does keeping the RT.

I expected a $200 7" tablet. Something real aggressive like THE SURFACE NOOK.
They are not dropping the original Surface price. I know they recently did but I expected at least $50 or $20 less.

They are doing a mini Surface RT BTW. Rumored to be unveiled this fall.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:55:18 AM: My guess is that they wanted to partner up with Nvidia due to contract or something because the rumored Mini is not gonna run on Tegra, but a Snapdragon.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 12:05:06 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PuphrxrT6U
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 12:07:13 PM: Official images:

Surface 2: http://winsupersite.com/mobile-devices/surface-2-visually

Surface Pro 2: http://winsupersite.com/mobile-devices/surface-pro-2-visually

Surface 2 Accessories: http://winsupersite.com/mobile-devices/surface-2-accessories-visually
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 12:09:48 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK6Hs-qHh84

There's also a Vine competition to win a surface 2 (and the music remix cover which I guess will never be manufactured):

http://www.surfaceremixproject.com/
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 12:12:15 PM: Specs:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/presskits/surface/materials.aspx

Surface Pro 2:

Operating
system   Windows 8.1 Pro with one-month trial for new Microsoft Office 365 customers
Exterior   10.81” x 6.81” x 0.53”
2 lbs
VaporMg casing
Dark Titanium color
Volume and power buttons
Storage   64 GB, 128 GB, 256 GB, 512 GB3
Display   10.6" ClearType Full HD display
1920 x 1080p
16:9 (widescreen)
10-point multitouch
Pen input   Pen input and pen (included with purchase)
Pen digitizer features 1,024 levels of pressure sensitivity
CPU   Fourth-generation Intel Core i5-4200U (1.6 GHz with Intel Turbo Boost up to 2.6 GHz) with Intel HD Graphics 4400
4 GB or 8 GB of RAM — dual-channel LPDDR3
TPM 1.2 (Trusted Platform Module – for Bitlocker Encryption)
Wireless   Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 low energy technology
Battery   42 W-h
Cameras and A/V   720p HD front- and rear-facing cameras
Built-in microphone
Stereo speakers with enhanced signal processing
Ports   Full-size USB 3.0
MicroSDXC card slot
Headset jack
Mini DisplayPort
Cover port
Sensors   Ambient light sensor
Accelerometer
Gyroscope
Magnetometer
Power supply   48W power supply (including 5W USB for accessory charging)
Warranty   One-year limited hardware warranty
Apps (included)   Mail, Calendar, People, Internet Explorer 11, Photos, Music, Video, Games, Skype, Fresh Paint, Calculator, Reading List, Reader, Scan, News, Weather, Sports, Travel, Finance, Health & Fitness, Food & Drink, Help, Camera, SkyDrive, Sound Recorder and more

Surface 2:

Operating
system   Windows RT 8.1 with Microsoft Office 2013 RT versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote and Outlook. Works exclusively with apps available in the Windows Store.
Exterior   10.81” x 6.79” x 0.35”
Less than 1.49 lbs
VaporMg
Magnesium (Silver)
Volume up/down and power buttons
Storage   32 GB; 64 GB1
Display   10.6" ClearType Full HD display
1920 x 1080p
16:9 (widescreen)
5-point multitouch
CPU   NVIDIA Tegra 4 (T40) 1.7GHz quad core
2 GB of RAM
Wireless   Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 low energy technology
Battery   Up to 10 hours of video playback
7–15 days idle life
Cameras and A/V   3.5MP front-facing camera
5MP rear-facing camera
1080p video capture
Stereo speakers (digitally enhanced for fuller sound)
Two microphones (with noise cancellation)
Ports   Full-size USB 3.0
MicroSDXC card reader
Headset jack
HD video out port
Cover port
Sensors   Ambient light sensor
Accelerometer
Gyroscope
Magnetometer
Power supply   24W power supply
Warranty   One-year limited hardware warranty
Apps (included)   Mail, Calendar, People, Internet Explorer 11, Photos, Music, Video, Games, Skype, Fresh Paint, Calculator, Reading List, Reader, Scan, News, Weather, Sports, Travel, Finance, Health & Fitness, Food & Drink, Help, Camera, SkyDrive, Sound Recorder and more
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 12:31:27 PM: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/pre-order
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 23, 2013, 12:34:30 PM: The docking station is impressive. Too bad about everything else though.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 12:37:09 PM: So does this thread demonstrate once and for all that I am less of a shill than MCD?

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Please ignore the Chrome avatar.
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Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Mupepe on September 23, 2013, 12:56:39 PM: SP2 will be mine. Was expecting more out of Surface 2 though.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 12:59:34 PM: >No HDMI Port
>Intel ~~HD5000~~ HD4400
>Not Shit Binning the RT

:neogaf
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 01:00:10 PM: Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:21:30 AM
We're selling Surface 2 for $449.

This is RT right? Lame.

I have to say this is less bad than last year's model. I'm nominally excited about this product.

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Nexus 7 2013 continues being the best tablet of all time. :rejoice
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Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 01:01:39 PM: Displayport is there. Plenty of adapters for DP to HDMI. DP is also better and more aimed at Pros.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:04:05 PM: I don't know why they didn't just keep surface 1 and just drop the price further. It runs okay (better than last-gen atom win8 tablets IMO), and it's not like anyone's gonna make apps for it anyway. Mine is basically a word processor/web browser, and it does that just fine.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 01:04:24 PM: Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
"The Surface team is back in Redmond working right now on generations to come. We're proud of what we're bringing you today."

"The power of designing for all of Microsoft is in this product. You will feel it when you use it."

"Tomorrow morning 8AM we will start taking pre-orders on all the Surface products. On 10/22 these products will be available."

(http://i.imgur.com/ZGurERo.jpg)

$899? :kobeyuck

Chromebook Pixel is a better value.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:06:11 PM: Wish I'd known about that backlit type cover before I bought mine, though :(
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:07:38 PM: Quote from: Andrex on September 23, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
"The Surface team is back in Redmond working right now on generations to come. We're proud of what we're bringing you today."

"The power of designing for all of Microsoft is in this product. You will feel it when you use it."

"Tomorrow morning 8AM we will start taking pre-orders on all the Surface products. On 10/22 these products will be available."

(http://i.imgur.com/ZGurERo.jpg)

$899? :kobeyuck

Chromebook Pixel is a better value.

Haha, fuck outta here with that dumbness
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 01:09:41 PM: Eel

The new accessories are pretty expensive anyway. Better wait for a price drop first.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 01:11:33 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:07:38 PM
Haha, fuck outta here with that dumbness

;)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:11:42 PM: i know, but i just bought it like two weeks ago :lol
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 01:12:46 PM: :lol fuck
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:13:49 PM: oh well, i bought it on the cheap
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 23, 2013, 01:19:13 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
oh well, i bought it on the cheap
That's how I feel about the BJ I got from Demi's mom.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2013, 01:28:53 PM: That guy holding it looks like he wants someone to shoot him in the head.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2013, 01:35:27 PM: I mean christ.

(http://i.imgur.com/L72frew.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/a3hrR7K.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KDo55jX.jpg)

"I have no idea how to sell this thing, can't I just go home?"

(http://i.imgur.com/jMLX860.jpg)

"I really wish this was my ipad."

(http://i.imgur.com/BxSVmUs.jpg)

"I want to go home and jerk off."
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 03:54:23 PM: (http://i.imgur.com/bRPraHG.jpg)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 04:00:53 PM: (http://i.imgur.com/17Qk9fw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8Ca5w9a.jpg)

The new docking station for the Surface Pro 2 is pretty slick and compact. As you can see, there are plenty of ports to extend the Surface Pro 2 for use in other devices. We saw one of them at the event when the docking station was connected to a big Dell monitor.

http://www.neowin.net/news/hands-on-with-the-new-surface-covers-and-docking-station
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Huff on September 23, 2013, 04:06:10 PM: shark just get an ipad. i use it for all my note taking
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 04:14:27 PM: Quote from: tino;83348709
Updated my W8 tablets/convertible comparison table with Surface 2, Sony Tab 11 and LenovoHelix.

The Surface Pro 2 spec is exactly the same as Surface Pro 1, I think MS just dropped the new i5 into the current chassis

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5491/9902545644_75c7d46bf8_o.gif) (http://www.flickr.com/)

Pro 2 heavier than the Pro. Good jon MS.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Mupepe on September 23, 2013, 04:25:51 PM: It ain't made for dainty feggits
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 04:26:38 PM: come on andy, they are the same.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 04:29:18 PM: Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 04:26:38 PM
come on andy, they are the same.

Lol I know. Like he said MS just dropped an i5 into the Surface Pro 1 and called it a day.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 05:04:21 PM: Oooh, I wants that arc mouse, too
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 05:10:05 PM: They also made it Bluetooth. I remember asking years ago for a BT version.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 23, 2013, 05:12:07 PM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 23, 2013, 01:28:53 PM
That guy holding it looks like he wants someone to shoot him in the head.

Probably because he knows that nobody is going to buy it and he has other shit to get done at the office.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2013, 06:09:28 PM: It is almost like they drew straws and the person with the shortest one had to give the keynote for the latest MS bomb. He got the shortest and he's showing so much attitude about it.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 23, 2013, 07:18:52 PM: sweet, I was afraid I'd have to wait till Pro 1 launch + 1 year = Jan 2014 for the Pro 2. looks hot
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 07:41:00 PM: >Surface PRO 2 no Office :neogaf
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: thisismyusername on September 23, 2013, 11:40:52 PM: Quote from: Borys on September 23, 2013, 11:23:16 AM
This thing looks neat enough but the iPad *exists*. This is MS' problem.

Eh, I'd say the price is more the problem and lack of apps like Facebook ( :neogaf)

If Microsoft solved those, completely wiped Metro and made an "iPad" clone GUI like Android-kinda-sorta-not-really-ish did... maybe they'd get Joe Consumer.

Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:21:30 AM
We're selling Surface 2 for $449.

:holeup :larry Though I really want a Pro if I was getting a Surface...

"$899"

:holeup :holeup :holeup :lawd :holeup :kobeyuck :badass

Still for "enthusiast" people or businesses. I guess I could get a 1 Pro if they price dropped, but eh... ~~that 4-8 gig in the Surface 2 Pro seems nice.~~ Looking at Andy's spreadsheet, it looks like the 2 Pro only adds 4 gigs more. :holeup

Quote from: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 07:41:00 PM
>Surface PRO 2 no Office :neogaf

Gotta fleece that extra $100 or so out of you, dude.

I can't really see this "revision" changing MS' fortunes, which is a shame because I do like the concept of a "tablet-laptop" hybrid and the cover-keyboard combo. But at the prices MS is asking, I can't simply buy it for a "dick around" everyday combo when there are other options out there for those prices.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 11:42:58 PM: I do like the concept of the Surface but it's overpriced (Pro) and RT :heh :sabu, if it had office and other shit to sweeten the pot. :shaq

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Yeah I know RT has Office but it's RT...
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Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 24, 2013, 12:07:41 AM: Any version of Office they bundled wouldn't be the Pro Plus SKU anyway, which means it wouldn't come with GeoFlow/Power Map, which would make it totally useless!
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Positive Touch on September 24, 2013, 12:18:17 AM: Quote from: MCD on September 23, 2013, 11:39:06 AM
Thank you for reading the bore liveblog.

seriously WHY IS THIS YOUR LIFE
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 24, 2013, 12:20:58 AM: Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on September 24, 2013, 12:07:41 AM
Any version of Office they bundled wouldn't be the Pro Plus SKU anyway, which means it wouldn't come with GeoFlow/Power Map, which would make it totally useless!

I never meant to say bundle the gimped version but a useable version. :obama
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2013, 12:35:43 AM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 23, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
It is almost like they drew straws and the person with the shortest one had to give the keynote for the latest MS bomb. He got the shortest and he's showing so much attitude about it.
He was also there last year because he leads the Surface team. If you want to suck his dick, just ask on twitter and stop embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: naff on September 24, 2013, 12:51:28 AM: SP2 :noah the 512/8gb spec price will b horrendous

Only just starting to get SP1s at work now :fbm
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2013, 08:32:47 AM: Whole conference here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/presskits/surface/surfaceevent.aspx

Or Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Ivvn8dhqU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wSIo8ZjwDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVzTywmNh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSN_S-K_9Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDGYNOYhZ1g
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2013, 11:28:29 AM: Did anyone buy an original Surface Pro?
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on September 24, 2013, 11:40:21 AM: People do know that YT vids don't have to be 15 minutes anymore... right?
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Brehvolution on September 24, 2013, 01:26:59 PM: Quote from: chronovore on September 24, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
Did anyone buy an original Surface Pro?
We got one in for work. Our CTO uses it quit a bit. It's comical watching him work with it because it's so clunky. Think what it would be like to work with your laptop or desktop screen with hundred of fingerprints and smears on it? :-X
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Mupepe on September 24, 2013, 01:31:00 PM: I think you mean jizz stains on it
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2013, 10:30:13 PM: Quote from: Zero Hero on September 24, 2013, 01:26:59 PM
Quote from: chronovore on September 24, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
Did anyone buy an original Surface Pro?
We got one in for work. Our CTO uses it quit a bit. It's comical watching him work with it because it's so clunky. Think what it would be like to work with your laptop or desktop screen with hundred of fingerprints and smears on it? :-X

:lol

When I started working in design, and we got our first 21" monitors in (BEASTS!), I was surprised at how frequently some designers would touch their screen when pointing to an object. It was unbelievable! Whenever I'd have go to their screens to help them with something, the smears and oily rainbows of their discharge was all over the screen.

It drove me crazy then, and now everyone's smartphone and tablets are like that. :yuck
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 24, 2013, 10:36:20 PM: Quote from: chronovore on September 24, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
Did anyone buy an original Surface Pro?

I bought one for my sister last month.

Aside from battery, it's a performance beast. It's so much faster and responsive than all the other tablets.

Also, being able to play something like Titan Quest on a tablet is pretty awesome.

The haters have obviously never played with one. iPad vs Surface Pro isn't even a valid comparison 'cuz one can do so much more.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on October 10, 2013, 08:54:02 PM: For Eel:

Best Buy offering between $200 and $350 for Microsoft Surface trade-ins: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/10/4825466/best-buy-offering-200-to-350-for-microsoft-surface-trade-ins?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WinRumors+%28WinRumors%29:
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 10, 2013, 09:29:57 PM: Thanks, but I think I'm okay with the one I have. It does everything I want it to, so far. With the type cover it's great for word processing. I really would like one of those 8 inch Bay trail full Win8 tablets, but I'm gonna wait until they're all out before I make a decision there.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 11, 2013, 10:48:18 PM: https://twitter.com/GooglePoetics/status/347798337455550464

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNOgvsYCcAAi6BV.png)
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: MCD on October 20, 2013, 10:40:25 PM: The Verge:

All the power of the Surface Pro came at a cost in battery life nine months ago, but I'm happy to report that Microsoft's promise of a 75 percent improvement for the Pro 2 is genuine. The Surface Pro 2 lasted 7 hours, 33 minutes on the Verge Battery Test using Chrome, which cycles through a series of websites and high-res images with screen brightness set to 65 percent. That's nearly double the Surface Pro score, which lasted for 3 hours, 59 minutes. It's the same package and screen, but it's clear that Intel's Haswell chip is helping to improve battery life here. While it's not the 10 hours you might expect from a tablet, given the compromise for laptop-style power it's definitely acceptable.

Review is pulled due to embargo but should be up soon.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 22, 2013, 03:17:31 PM: Got a Surface 2 Pro 128 GB as an impulse buy. Did I screw up here?
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2013, 03:29:06 PM: Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on November 22, 2013, 03:17:31 PM
Got a Surface 2 Pro 128 GB as an impulse buy. Did I screw up here?

Yes.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 22, 2013, 04:02:02 PM: It's a full Windows machine, what's to screw up? I mean, unless you go installing a bunch of Google bullshit, you're all clear.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 22, 2013, 04:06:09 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on November 22, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
It's a full Windows machine, what's to screw up? I mean, unless you go installing a bunch of Google bullshit, you're all clear.

:whoo
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2013, 04:19:31 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on November 22, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
It's a full Windows machine, what's to screw up?

Lulz, this is hilarious on its own level.

Good troll, though.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 26, 2013, 09:44:34 PM: I spent a lot of time with my Surface Pro 2, which is the 4 GB/128 GB model since getting it.

I like it a lot. This is the first tablet I ever owned and may still get an iPad Air here when my bonus check comes in. This thing is slick as fuck. The screen is amazingly clear and bright and everything moves fast. I bought the tablet mostly for reading and watching Netflix before I go to sleep. The Kindle app is very nice and Netflix works great. I got a black keyboard to go with it and that is great as well and I like how it doubles as a cover for the screen. The only downside is that the touchpad buttons suck ass. This has a lot of potential and a lot of features so I don't want to just watch movies and read e-books on it. So in the coming days I'm going to really see what it can do. Ultimately I think it can replace my laptop, which was a cheap, shitty (even for then) 2009 Dell laptop I got for $400. Going to see how Office runs on it. If it is great, then I might just make it my new laptop.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Surface 2 event
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 26, 2013, 11:15:33 PM: I am still using my Win7-era Samsung //build/ tablet, lulz